Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Moments That Live Rent Free in Your Head | Ear Biscuits Ep. 400

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

That’s right, it’s been 400 episodes and 10 years of Ear Biscuits! In this episode, Rhett and Link are talking about some moments that apparently live rent free in your heads from Ear Biscuits ove...r the years. Plus, Link goes to a Brandi Carlile concert and makes an interesting observation about the crowd, and the two break down their thoughts on what they’ve been creating and how they react to criticisms. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/EAR and get on your way to being your best self. Start building your credit up. Open a Chime Checking account with at least a $200 qualifying direct deposit to get started. Get started at chime.com/ear To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. how you start conversations. You can now make the first move or not. With opening moves, you simply choose a question to be automatically sent to your matches. Then sit back and let your matches start the chat. Download Bumble and try it for yourself. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Link. And I'm Red. This week at the Roundtable of Dem Lighting, we are celebrating 400 episodes of Ear Biscuits. Why are we doing that? Well, because we're humans and we are supreme pattern recognizers and we like to attach significance to things like round numbers, even though in the grand scheme of things, it means nothing.
Starting point is 00:01:09 400 is no more important than 399 or 401. Oh, I just wanted confirmation that this was the 400th episode. Well, I mean, I'm trusting Jamie on this one. Yes, indeed. If everyone that produced this before me was accurate, then we are accurate. Yeah, you just adopted a numbering from predecessors. Yes, and I believe that they were great
Starting point is 00:01:33 and that they did that, so I'm saying yes. Yes, this is the 400th episode. 400 of these. You know, I mean, there's a lot of podcasts. A lot of podcasts come and go. Probably 400 a day, new ones. And you know what? I celebrate the fact that we have done 399 of these,
Starting point is 00:01:52 and I was looking forward to doing this one. Yeah. Even if it is a meaningless piece of meaning. It's very meaningless for us to be here together. And we're not going to just take this time to just talk about the memories No We're going to go through a few of your comments and voicemails in a little bit But, you know, we've got other things that we want to talk about
Starting point is 00:02:15 We've got things that we want to catch up with each other about I went to a concert, and I want to tell you about this I mentioned it a little bit, but especially sitting here telling you about it, I guess I need to contextualize the concert as another data point on the narrative journey of my sexual orientation.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Okay. This was Chrissy's idea. She was like, Brandi Carlile is coming to the Hollywood Bowl, and Chrissy loves Brandi Carlile. I really like Brandi Carlile, but I wouldn't say I listen to Brandi all the time. But when I do, I'm always happy. She's great, man. Now,
Starting point is 00:03:06 in terms of genre, she's country. She's like Americana. Not quite. She's Americana. Folky, Americana. She's folky, but not quite. Folk rock. You know, sometimes it gets a little rocky. She might show up on a feature on Miley Cyrus' new album. She might. You know? She might do a collab with Jacob Collier. She did. And she might win Album of the Year. She did. Produced by?
Starting point is 00:03:33 Shooter. Shooter Jennings. A couple of years back. So I was like, of course, Christy, we're going to go to this thing. And then you and Jesse were invited, but Jesse was gonna be out of town, so then you became uninvited. Sorry. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:48 It wasn't gonna be me, you, and Christy. Well, I mean, I would've done it. I'm not above that. Should next time mean? Yeah, I know you would've. That's why I didn't invite you, because I knew you would probably would've said yes.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I would've not preferred that. So who'd you take? My wife. Oh, but who else? Nobody. Oh, originally it was going to be four of us. Yeah, we were going to buy the tickets together, and then I just bought two when Jesse was out of town.
Starting point is 00:04:13 You didn't do the thing where you buy four tickets, and then you have to sell two, and you sell it to two people, and then you have to sit next to them. Yeah, and you feel like you've got to make sure that they're having a good time. Well, I mean, yeah. You guys enjoying the seats I bought? Yeah, and you feel like you got to make sure that they're having a good time. Well, I mean, yeah, yeah. You guys enjoying the seats I bought? And you bought for me? Yeah, those were my tickets,
Starting point is 00:04:29 so we're kind of here together. You guys want something to drink? You know, you don't need to do that. You probably should never acknowledge it, actually. Okay, Randy Carlisle. I didn't have to because I didn't do that. Great performer. I had never seen, well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:04:43 I saw her live once, like back when Britton lived with me. He got us into this Aretha Franklin tribute show that was being recorded for broadcast later at this amazing theater. And we were backstage as Smokey Robinson walked past me and went on stage. Do you have a trail of smoke behind him? I like to think. He was being trailed by tears of a clown. Oh, nice. Even better.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yes. Thank you for setting me up for that one. Brandi Carlile also, as she was coming off stage, Britton reminded Christy that I had met her because I talked to her at that moment. Okay. But I just said, hello, I loved it. You know, I just said something in passing. It wasn't a conversation.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I love you. Did you do it to John Mayer? I didn't. Hello, I love you. She walked away. I love you. I didn't tell her I love her. Because you didn't love her yet.
Starting point is 00:05:40 You didn't love her yet. I didn't love her yet. And this was the last date on her tour. It was called Brandy Carlile and Friends. She brought out some friends, including Annie Lennox. Wow. A rare public appearance by Annie Lennox. They seemed like they were really friends.
Starting point is 00:05:57 They seemed like they were really friends, or they seemed like they were just kind of doing it for show. They seemed like they were really friends. Like us. Like us, yeah, both. And then she brought out at the end of the grand finale, the whole stage rotated around and revealed a completely new stage that was like couches,
Starting point is 00:06:15 and in the middle was this huge throne upon which sat Joni Mitchell. Oh, wow. So it was like everyone was in deep reverence for Joni Mitchell. The queen. So it was a powerful woman night up on that stage. The thing that I should have known, but I did not think about until I was in line going into the venue was that there are a lot of lesbians in attendance at this Brandi Carlile concert. Probably a majority.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I mean, Brandi Carlile herself is a lesbian icon. Uh-huh. And so I was like, this makes sense, but I just didn't think about that. Right. Because it didn't matter to me. Right. And once I thought about Right. Because it didn't matter to me. Right. And once I thought about it, it also didn't matter to me.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Of course, and you fit right in. And I fit right in. Let's get to the point here. Joni Mitchell, when she came out, Brandy told a story about how she was serving wine or liquor, and then Brandy just drank it out of the bottle. And she said, and Joni, tell everyone what you said to me when you saw me drinking out of the bottle. And she said, you're so butch.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And I was like, totally relate. I totally relate. So, yeah, Chrissy and I are sitting there waiting for the show to begin. We got there kind of early. You can have a picnic at your seat. And we were doing that. Whereabouts were you sitting? In the middle. In the middle of the whole venue.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Not too far back, not too close up. So you were sitting? I was seated, yes. The whole time? Yes. I was at that point where it just became like, we don't have to stand the whole time for this. Yeah, right. The best seat in the house is the first one you can sit in. Yeah, that's kind of where we were, which is nice.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And as people started filling in and the place got thick with people, that's when I realized I'm now going to know what it's like to be in an amphitheater full of lesbians. Okay. And let me tell you, I do know. All right. So how do you know that someone's a lesbian? Well, they all are, Rhett.
Starting point is 00:08:36 All the lesbians that were there were lesbians. Yeah, I know. But how do you conclude by just looking at somebody? The same way that people concluded by looking at me on Instagram. Just total conjecture. Okay. So you're making some assumptions, but you're probably also right. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:53 You have reason to make these assumptions. There were not a lot of guys there. Okay. And there were a lot of couples, and both people in the couples were women. Yeah. Okay. Right. Okay. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And they seemed to, like, couples that really loved each other. Right. That were both women. Yep. Yeah. I pretty much infer
Starting point is 00:09:13 that those were lesbians. Okay. I'm just checking. That's one of the ways that I, I also ask every person. Yeah, yeah. Are you a lesbian? Right, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yes. Are you a lesbian? Yes. Are you a lesbian? And they ask you right back, right? And I'd be like, not yet. Right. That I know of.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Maybe. But I know now what it's like to be in an amphitheater full of lesbians. And let me tell you. Seems like it might be pretty great. It smells like soap. Oh. Okay. It smells like soap. A particular okay. It smells like soap.
Starting point is 00:09:47 A particular... I don't... Like, just soap. Everywhere I turn my nose, and I wasn't thinking of it ahead of time. I wasn't like, hmm, I'm here. I'm going to say something about lesbians on a podcast. I better come up with something.
Starting point is 00:10:01 No. I was sitting there... Did you talk... Did you confer with your wife to make sure that you were smelling soap? I was sitting there and I was like, just looking around waiting for the show to start and I just found myself, I would turn this way and I would get a whiff of a refreshing soapy scent.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Okay. And then I'd look the other way and it was a different yet equally refreshing... But different. ...whiff of clean soapiness. Soap in every direction. Soap in every direction. When you got up and you moved about the venue. Soap.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Soap. Okay. I mean... So we're not talking... There was drinking. There was some eating. There was some picnicking. There was not really any smoking.
Starting point is 00:10:44 There was no smoke. There can't be at the Hollywood Bowl. But typically, there'll be like weed smoke. Maybe a vape cloud here and there. Yeah, but you can't be smoking a cigarette in the Hollywood Bowl. So I'm not saying that there wasn't any smokers there, but no one who smelled of smoke. They're soapers.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It was an overwhelming positive sensation of soap. I'm just, and I turned to Christy and I said, do you smell that? She's like, no, what? I was like, exactly. It's the soap. It was everywhere. It was great. It was like the best smelling experience. Not perfume.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Soap. Soap, specifically. Soap. And I believe it was bar soap. Something about lesbians and bar soap is my theory. Yeah. I'll make it up right now. Lesbians love bar soap. Okay. Or they like to shower before they go to a concert. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Now, I'm going to step into this pit, this hole that you've dug for yourself. I don't know if you've dug a hole or not. I'm just saying you smelled soap, but you smelled lesbians. Everybody knows I love lesbians. Right, and I love lesbians as well. And now I have another reason. It's that they make concerts smell like soap. But I do have a theory that I'd like your opinion on, having been there. And I'm going to use the lesbian that I know best to try this theory out, okay?
Starting point is 00:12:18 With that movie Stevie, right? Yeah. And I'm going to make a generalization. I'm digging a bigger hole. Yeah. And I'm going to make a generalization. I'm digging a bigger hole. Yeah. Women smell better than men on average. Oh, yeah. Okay?
Starting point is 00:12:31 Yeah. I don't know all the factors that go into it, but I've been in women's restrooms and I've been in men's restrooms. Right. I've been in spaces where women have made a home, made a space for themselves. You've been in spaces. And I've been in spaces where mostly men.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And it is consistent across the board for me. I mean, nine times out of ten, the woman's space is going to smell better than the men's space. Okay. So we got that. The second factor is, you know, maybe more lesbians on average than... Or less lesbians on average than women wear traditional perfumes. If you were to go to, let's say, a space where it was a bunch of straight ladies,
Starting point is 00:13:18 you might smell a bunch of perfume. It might give you a headache. A headache. A headache. If it's on the ache. Right. But now that you found's just on the ache. Right. But now that you found yourself in this lesbian space, we've got a lot of women who they're going to smell good,
Starting point is 00:13:32 but we're not necessarily relying too much on perfumes, which I think is consistent with what I know about Stevie. Stevie doesn't have a fragrance that proceeds her entrance into a room or, you know, proceeds her exit. No. But she always smells good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:53 In a soapy way, perhaps? I don't know if she smells like soap. I was hoping that maybe you would confirm that she smells like soap. I think I'm going to sniff her after this. And with permission. I should have asked her. I should have asked her. I should have asked her before this. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:09 You haven't done it yet. You don't have to. Jamie, are you in touch with smelling lesbians? I mean. I mean. Don't. Are we digging a hole here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:18 But it's fine. I know we're making a generalization. Yeah. I mean, I'm trying to think. Because as you guys were talking about this, I'm thinking of my straight friends and my lesbian friends and the difference in their smells. But most of my friends, I would say, don't wear a lot of perfume. So I feel like I don't have a good judgment on that.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Okay, you're skirting. No, but lesbians, like I've been to lesbian bars. They're still pretty soapy. Nice. Okay. Right, right, right, right, right. Better than a straight bar, but there's men in there, so. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:47 See? Men will make something smell harder. I mean, it was open air. It's in a freaking amphitheater, and I am not exaggerating. I just, I was like, I'm smelling soap in every direction. And then I figured it out. Okay. But was your wife, did she agree When she pointed it out?
Starting point is 00:15:05 Oh you don't do smell soap You have a sensitive When I lean When I lean over And talk to Christy sometimes I just I kind of got the impression That she was enjoying
Starting point is 00:15:15 Her own moment And she didn't need To talk to me about this Right okay Let this be something That he and his friend Talk about Yeah she didn't
Starting point is 00:15:22 She didn't take the bait She took it as a joke. I was like, because the way I said it to her, I leaned over and I was like, I now know what an amphitheater full of lesbians smells like. Soap. She was like, what? And I was like, soap. And she laughed.
Starting point is 00:15:36 But I didn't, I guess I didn't ask her what she smelled. But you didn't ask anybody. You didn't go and say, well, what soap are you wearing? No. You didn't. I didn't. That's good. I don't think you should have done that. anybody you didn't go and say well what soap are you wearing no you didn't i did that's good i i
Starting point is 00:15:45 don't think you should have done that i got a little too talkative early on with some other women who were around like i was just being friendly and christy said you're talking too much to people okay i was like i've gotten that note before right i've been there i've been there done that with you yeah there we go so that, I settled down, and the show began. And just to put a button on this. A soapy button. I witnessed probably the most talented vocal performance I've ever seen in person. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Short of when we saw Christina Aguilera sing This Is a Man's World by James Brown at the Grammy Awards 15 years ago or whenever that was. That was a mind-blowing vocal performance. But for Brandi Carlile to be at the end of a tour and on her final night to have such an exquisite command of her voice, it was unbelievable. The first song she sang when she came out there was Somewhere Over the Rainbow. Oh. Which she recorded. It's a cover song.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yeah, it's a cover. It's from The Wizard of Oz. Yeah, she didn't write it. Absolutely amazing. And just, I mean, she is just, like, my jaw was just dropped. I was just, you know, I was tasting soap because my mouth was just slacked. And Christian and I were just looking at each other, how effortlessly commanding her voice is. And she's got such a distinct,
Starting point is 00:17:32 like you, you hear her singing and you know that it's her singing too. And when you have the combination of the like specificity of her voice, but then the, the talent behind it. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:47 The songwriting. Songwriting is great. And the harmonies. The lyrics are great. You know, it was fascinating to me that she's gaining so much popularity right now, but she's got such a storied career already, so all of these fans are coming into into her world and she's having to
Starting point is 00:18:06 educate them from stage at the Hollywood Bowl. These, these two things like these two guys, lesbians love. So, so these two guys are my guys. They've been with me for the twins. They've been with me for,
Starting point is 00:18:20 you know, like 20 years or whatever, like educating people on like how her band works and the fact that she's got different versions of her songs and
Starting point is 00:18:30 it was I just found it very fascinating that she was like you may be new to this but you're welcome and it was like it was very fan
Starting point is 00:18:40 centric you know and she also like acknowledged, acknowledged the, like, the elephant in the amphitheater with, like, everything that's going on with, like, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Like, at the beginning, she, like, gave a speech about it and gave everybody permission to just acknowledge it
Starting point is 00:19:00 and then say what she had kind of tailored this night to be. But it was, it could have been like a strange juxtaposition to just say, hey, this is going on in the world, but we're going to ignore that here. So instead it was like, this is going on in the world. There's a lot of heartache and heartbreak and tragedy associated with this. tragedy associated with this. But my hope is that this can be a space where we can get some respite, where we can recharge. Like, it was just a wonderful speech that kind of gave everybody permission to say, I can be here in this moment and enjoy myself, and then it will energize me to be a positive contribution to the world that I reenter
Starting point is 00:19:47 on the other side of this lesbian soap fest. So I had a blast. I am, you know, I was already a fan, but now I'm like just a fan for life, for somebody to be that good in person. And I just wanted you to be there so bad so you could smell it. Well, I wish you had invited me. Yep, yep, yep. Couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:20:08 For the soap and for brandy. I'm a big fan of both things. Let me know if I've overstepped my bounds. Hashtag Ear Biscuits or leave me a voicemail, you know. We're hearing your voicemails. Matter of fact, we're going to play some voicemails today to show that we listened to them. Speaking of incredible vocalists,
Starting point is 00:20:33 oh, this is not a great segue. Oh, I can make it about you, Link. Link Neal, a.k.a. Elkown Snuggle Baby, performed on a song of mine recently that dropped today. Oh. October 30th. James and the Shame. This is the third single on the EP that drops on Friday.
Starting point is 00:21:00 The album's called Nothing Left to Love, which is the same name as the first single, but this song that dropped today is called I Think I'm Supposed to Like This. And because I was singing about... You could have called it I Think I'm Supposed to Link This. I almost did. But because I was singing about a situation, kind of, you know, it's not like a...
Starting point is 00:21:24 I don't get too specific, but you know the sort of like a it's i don't get too specific but you know the sort of like what i'm evoking in the song uh because you were you know you know you kind of went through the same thing yeah so it's got one of my favorite lines i invited you to to sing on it what's the line about the um uh the introvert line about wanting to be home instead? Like I was dreaming about my bed or something? What's the line? Fantasizing about my couch and I'm cold. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:56 That may be the best like pluckable line from the album. Oh, thank you. Out of context. Just put that on TikTok, just out of context. But, you know, did I get a feature? Does it say F-E-A-T period? No, because you have to be a registered artist. You have to have an artist account within...
Starting point is 00:22:20 You're going to hear from my manager. ...Spotify in to For that to work Oh Really Oh Because it registered Plus Let's not
Starting point is 00:22:30 Let's not get too Let's not paint too big I think back up Right well This wasn't a duet To me this is like When James Taylor performed On George Jones
Starting point is 00:22:40 Uncredited What was it Bartender's Blues Bartender's Blues You know it's him And that makes it cool Bartender's Blues. Bartender's Blues. You know it's him, and that makes it cool, but he's not listed and he's not featured. You are on the back.
Starting point is 00:22:51 It does say. Elk House No Go Baby? No, it says Link Neal. Oh, which, you know what? I should go ahead and say this because I keep forgetting to say this, and I haven't said it on GMM. But, and I'll say it again next week when the album's out, but the physical album is available for pre-order already. The vinyl, the CD, the cassette.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Doing it all. And a bunch of merch that's associated with it. So you can buy it, and I'm signing the first ones that are bought, so you can kind of get in on the early, even before you hear the whole album. But if you want to wait and see how you feel about the whole album, that drops on Friday, and then pre-order, you can kind of get in on the early, even before you hear the whole album. But if you want to wait and see how you feel about the whole album,
Starting point is 00:23:26 it drops on Friday, and then pre-order. You can do that, or you can decide you don't like it, not pre-order. Anyway, listen to the song today, and then prepare for the album to drop on Friday. It was an honor. It was an honor to be included, uncredited, or kind of credited. 400 episodes. Well, before we get into those voicemails, we have other things to talk about.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Some business? To promote. So speaking of our favorite lesbian, we took her. Stevie's her name. We took her to Halloween Horror Nights and just scared the crap out of her and Link, frankly. They were both very scared. just scared the crap out of her and Link, frankly. They were both very scared.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And the whole adventure in multi-parts is on the Mythical Society, available for all degrees, first, second, and third degree, mythicalsociety.com. See all the scares. Go over there. All the food. Enjoy it.
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Starting point is 00:24:37 Reserve your ride as soon as you book your flights. To all the planners, now you can reserve your Uber ride up to 90 days in advance. See Uber app for details. What do you want to do? Let's go through a couple of tweets because we ask, what Ear Biscuits moment lives in your head rent-free? You can call us or just reply to the tweet. NovaCane96 said, episode 280, throw me a piece of that meat.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I'll catch it. This is looking down at my neighbor who was grilling. Ah. And I caught the meat and ate it. And I only talked to that guy once more since then. He's still there, though. Yeah. He put in a pool.
Starting point is 00:25:26 He throw anything into his pool? I don't think it's finished yet. Really? He's still working on it? He's still working on the pool. I expect there to be more meat thrown because he's going to have some pool usage. The fact that he threw you meat and you caught it in that there hasn't been another interaction
Starting point is 00:25:48 is almost unsettling to me. He hasn't been grilling any more meat when I've been out there. Well, let me know when he is. Alright. This is from Lil AC Peeps. When I think of ear biscuits, I always remember episode 205. Everything about Rhett's trip to
Starting point is 00:26:04 Scotland is so funny. I will never forget the moment when Rhett told us about the plot twist. I always remember episode 205. Everything about Rhett's trip to Scotland. So funny. I will never forget the moment when Rhett told us about the plot twist. I laughed so much. That, I mean, that was a big moment. It's defining. It's a defining moment in my life, realizing that I'm not Scottish. My mom is
Starting point is 00:26:20 um, she was never the same. She was never the same. Are you crying? No, she the same. Are you crying? No, she's fine. Are you laughing? She's fine. Her ankle recovered.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Rob DeFrance22 tweeted, The moment where the light fell from the ceiling to the table and caused a fire and panic ensued. Haha, the best. I vaguely remember that, but I don't remember a fire. I think maybe there was a joke about a fire or a concern that maybe there would be a fire. I don't think it was an actual fire, but yes, it was this... The show didn't stop. Globular light fell.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Globular. At this point, it's pretty well secured. I don't think we're at risk anymore. Song to me. I can look at their face and tell that they didn't even... Oh, crap! Oh! Okay, are we burning?
Starting point is 00:27:08 We got water. Get the water up. What? The water... It landed... We're gonna catch fire in here! But don't block the... Don't block the shots, guys. This is the best thing that's ever happened to Ear Biscuits. For those of you who are just listening and not watching... Are we still rolling, Kiko? Yeah, we're still rolling. That's the most important thing.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Oh my God. So... Alright, I'm gonna get a towel. Oh shoot! So the main thing that you need to know if you're only listening to this is this... the sun fell from the sky, the dim lighting has become really bright because the... Oh, it is! I think I got it. The dim lighting has become really bright because the... The lighting fell right in the middle of the table, knocked over Rhett's
Starting point is 00:27:49 ear biscuit jar onto his phone, which is kinda wet, but it's okay. My water's fine. Okay. Rachel Johnson says during sex timber when Link came to the realization that Rhett was jerking off to those magazines and Rhett was baffled that Link was it. Yeah, I have... This is us in high school?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Middle school? This is at the Grok where they were hidden in the pool table and we were supposed to be sorting baseball cards for a dollar an hour. And I was looking at porn in the bathroom and then doing what usually you do when you do that. And you were just looking at porn and just sitting there in frustration, I guess. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I mean, you were right on the other side of the door. The door was closed. We've already had this conversation. Okay, well, I mean, I have no regrets, if that's what you're asking. It didn't smell like soap in there, I'll tell you that much. It smelled horrible in there. Good gosh. That wasn't from me.
Starting point is 00:28:48 That was the pre-existing smell. And Cicely said the 13-minute quickie. Okay, we remember this one. Let's don't bring that up again. Also, I really miss Link going, wreck baby, wreck baby, one, two, three, four. Why did he stop? Why'd you stop? Because I knew you didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Oh. I'll bring it back. I'll bring it back. Thanks, Anne, for helping me bring that back. Mackenzie. Rhett describing watching his wife
Starting point is 00:29:13 give birth in the hospital like a, quote, scuffle in an Arby's. I don't... I'm not even sure of the episode, but it is my Roman Empire. Always thinking about it. Do you remember describing it as a scuffle in an Arby's?
Starting point is 00:29:29 No, I remember describing her giving birth like she was constantly about to be hit by an oncoming truck or something. She was screaming so much, especially with Shepard in particular because he came so fast. But I guess at some point in that I did say a scuffle in an arby's which isn't a place that you want to have a scuffle but you don't remember saying no i don't trauma everything regarding link shower and i seriously need an update on the whole situation have any new neighbor problems arisen has he cleaned more sunroofs? I need to know. I was looking out the window while showering this morning, and it's still one of the best home remodel decisions I ever made.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I stand by it. My neighbor's fence is still up, and I can't see my neighbor anymore. There's some stuff growing up even above the fence. So it's mostly roof at this point. Things have gotten better. I haven't sprayed the sunroof or whatever it's called, the ceiling light off anymore. So there's my update.
Starting point is 00:30:40 We got a lot of mileage out of that. Entire vlog, lots of talks on here. I'd like to think that there's windows going in showers all across the globe in remodeling efforts to increase long distance visibility
Starting point is 00:30:56 while showering. It's good for your eyes. It's good for your soul. The one thing we've never talked about in all of this is the fact that my shower in my bathroom already has a window,
Starting point is 00:31:09 but it's one of those frosty ones. I can't open it though, but I never even thought about the fact that it was built in. It was there already. Because it lets light in, but privacy is intact. If you were to make that a clear window, what would you see on the other side? The concrete side yard where the basketball goal is. Yeah, you don't want that. It's better the way it is. Yeah, I have no plans to change it. Adam Woodbury.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I know for me it's when Rhett is doing his Link impersonation, talking about Bojangles, quote, can I get a light biscuit? It's stupid, but that impression lives rent-free in my head. You like a light biscuit? And you know what? If you know what you like, you should be able to order it without any consequences. Well, yeah, but also,
Starting point is 00:32:02 you should also be able to take a joke of somebody doing an impersonation of you ordering a light biscuit. Well, I feel like I'm taking the joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's nothing wrong with liking a light biscuit, but there's also nothing wrong with when you ask for one, somebody going, can I get a light biscuit? Can I get a light biscuit? Can I get a light biscuit? That's how I say it.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Nothing wrong with having preferences. I don't say it sheepishly. I say it confidently. And nothing wrong. I say it excitedly. Can I get a light biscuit? That's how I say it. Nothing wrong with having preferences. I don't say it sheepishly. I say it confidently. I say it excitedly. Can I get a light biscuit? Nothing wrong with having preferences and nothing wrong with your best friend making fun of you for having those preferences. I agree, and I agree.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I went through the drive-thru at Smithfield's, and my father-in-law said, when you get up there, he said, what you going to order? I said shrimp. I always liked the shrimp from Smithfield's Chicken and Barbecue. I don't know why shrimp. It should be Smithfield's Shrimp Chicken and Barbecue because I like their popcorn shrimp. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:51 He was like, when you order the shrimp, order it fried soft. I was like, what? Fried soft? He said, yeah, because then they have to make it fresh for you. You don't want it sitting under that lamp too long. It's going to be hard and chewy. And also shrimp don't need to be fried hard. They need to be just right.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I didn't know they had that. I will say that I felt guilty. That's a great place to eat, by the way. About doing that. Saying, I'll take the deluxe shrimp. They give you a tray of shrimp with like the sides you want, and then they give you another tray with just half thinguxe shrimp. They give you a tray of shrimp with the sides you want, and then they give you another tray with just half thing of shrimp.
Starting point is 00:33:31 That's how much I like shrimp. I like to bury it in the slaw, cover it in pepper, and then dip it in tartar sauce. I haven't had that. Fried soft. Their barbecue and their chicken, but I haven't had their shrimp. It's all great, man. Brunswick stew. Do you know they tried to go SCMB as on their sign,
Starting point is 00:33:47 and it looked like a bank, and then they kind of went back? It still says SCMB on a lot of things, but like that classic Smithfield's chicken and barbecue, I think that they realized that they needed to say that. If you pass by one of those, I mean, that might be my, I mean, when I go home, last time I went home, I ate there, and I did not eat at Bojangles at all. Every time I go home, if I have to choose between Bojangles and Smithfields... Now, here's the thing. Bojangles is a much bigger restaurant, many more
Starting point is 00:34:18 locations, and Bojangles is like... I love it and it's great. The thing about Smithfield's is it's for North Carolina style barbecue. It's like the only place you can get, for me, like a North Carolina style barbecue fast food. It's the only place that does it and does it right. Yep. So I go and I get that barbecue sandwich with some slaw. That's why I go.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Yep. We got an aggressive Cosign for Smithfield's chicken and barbecue Shrimp platter Fried soft Amber tweeted The sex timber disclaimer song about two straight guys Who have only been with one woman each
Starting point is 00:35:00 Let's sing it again Do you remember it? We're two straight guys And we don't remember this song that we sang But we know it's about us being with one woman each We've only been with one woman each A different woman from each other that's still our wives I haven't poked another woman Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I think it was good a couple of seconds ago. No, that's what you sang. I'm just remembering what was your part. I didn't say anything like that. I would never say something like that on this podcast. I haven't poked another woman. I'm a monogamous poker. That was all your part. Jennifer Reed. Poker. That was all your part. Jennifer.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Read. I have to say, when Link was talking about the time he trapped his hand slash fingers in the safe when putting the passports away, and he shows a video recording of it, it's the funny walk that Link does that lives in my head and makes me laugh. Sorry, Link. I don't remember the funny walk. I remember the incident, but I don't remember the walk. I don't remember how it was caught on video, but I think it was... I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Was this a security cam? Oh, yeah. We looked at the security cam footage. I think that's what it was. I'm kind of disturbed. I mean, can we fall back on the fact that we've done 400 of these? That's why we don't remember anything. Well, we were just talking earlier today about a very specific experience on GMM
Starting point is 00:36:30 that I had completely forgotten that had many details. And I'm like, man, I just... These things that happen on this show and the other shows that we do, I think those people who are being entertained by them are way more likely to remember specific details than us. Right. But you'd think because it happened to us
Starting point is 00:36:57 and we talked about it, we would be most likely to remember it. But I also, I would just like to believe that we, our memories are just as good as everybody else's. Oh, I think they might be. I think based on what people have told me, based on the way that we recount stories from earlier in our lives, our memories are better than the average person.
Starting point is 00:37:19 We talk about something that happened in first grade, second grade, third grade. I can name you every single one of my teachers from first grade to twelfth grade. Yeah, but all the stuff that's happened in between. We talk about things that are inconsequential to us, like when you say something about an Arby's and it just hits somebody and sticks in their head. Yeah, it sticks in a different place. You were saying it extemporaneously. But even, like, I remember getting my hand stuck in the safe, but I had to figure out, I don't know what the walk is because that's not,
Starting point is 00:37:48 that wasn't part of my experience. That was just part of their experience watching it. Right. So, okay, I feel okay about that. Shop Best Buy's Ultimate Smartphone Sale today. Get a Best Buy gift card
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Starting point is 00:38:37 every month terms and conditions apply click the banner or visit bmo.com slash rise to learn more banner or visit bmo.com slash rise to learn more. Let's listen to a voicemail. Hi, Rhett and Link. This is Kylie from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I was just calling with my ear biscuits moment that lives in my head rent-free. It's got to be from sex-tember this year when Link explained how he finally got to use the butt plug. And it became a projectile. I just can't, as much as I don't want to be picturing it,
Starting point is 00:39:28 I just can't stop picturing it. And it's so on brand. So on brand. For Link. And it's just so comical. And I love everything that you guys do with sex timber and just the education and breaking stigma. And I just think it's amazing. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Sorry to put that imagery in your head, but it's, yeah, that is my brand. Butt projectile. That's my brand. Removing stigma. That's nice to hear, you know? Yeah, because we also hear, why do you guys talk about all this stuff? I can't believe you talk so openly about your sex lives. Mostly from relatives?
Starting point is 00:40:09 No. I mean, the occasional comment. I mean, I do think that as we take this time to reflect over 400 episodes, I do think that hearing some of the things that we talk about and the way that we talk about them 400 episodes later would be quite shocking to episode one retin link uh totally different it's it it really is wild like we we've made these decisions to start and there's certain like watershed moments
Starting point is 00:40:38 like the deconstruction episodes and then just like i don't we wouldn't have done sex timber even though it's not sex timber wasn't related to the deconstruction episodes it was deconstruction had to walk so sex timber could run yeah I mean there was a purity culture overlap because it the deconstruction episodes gave us then the the foundation to talk about our experience with sex or lack thereof or you know the whole purity culture thing which then was kind of getting into the okay yeah i think we are more comfortable talking about these things you take a few risks you say something that's genuine or honest and also ridiculously silly at times and it's a positive feedback loop for the most part and maybe that's because i don't read enough of the comments i i don't know i mean you're much more engaged when it comes to the deconstruction stuff still. And would you describe that as a positive feedback loop?
Starting point is 00:41:48 Because it's not. It just depends on what side of the conversation you're coming from. It's a – because I recently made – I've made a couple of videos this year just on my like TikTok where I just talk about some deconstruction things. And I never know how to feel about it because I would say that they get a lot of views because people feel so strongly about the issue and also because the level of engagement in the comments, but mostly between people having very unfruitful discussion and i and i don't read all of them you know but i would say that there's a lot of negative a lot of negative mostly positive there's a lot of people who are like why do you talk about this
Starting point is 00:42:39 we've heard enough you're leading people astray whatever you know there's that and then there's uh this is really helpful to have somebody articulate theseray whatever you know there's that and then there's uh this is really helpful to have somebody articulate these things because you know i'm going through something very similar and that's why i continue to do it because it seems to be helpful to to to those people um what was your original question is it a positive feedback loop like when you get the feedback does it make you want to do it again or make you less likely to do another spiritual deconstruction tiktok post i don't know i'm processing how i feel about it because i'm trying to figure out what um what is my what is my role in the ongoing deconstruction dialogue? Right?
Starting point is 00:43:28 And I'm trying to be very like, well, I don't want to be somebody who argues with people and I don't want to be somebody who's trying to convince people of something, but I want to be somebody who's, I think it goes back to exactly what we're talking about. Somebody who just speaks freely about their own experience. The only thing I'm an expert on is my own experience and maybe making YouTube videos.
Starting point is 00:43:57 You know what I'm saying? But I'm not a doctor. I'm not a theologian. I'm not a PhD in anything. Right. So I want to be careful about the things that I speak into, but I think that goes back to why we ended up... Well, I think, first of all, there's just this idea of being on the internet for so long and talking so much on the internet. One of the things I've thought about recently is, I think that the average person, when they pick
Starting point is 00:44:27 up their phone to go on social media, they don't have the option to go and see, what are people saying about me today? Or what new thing did I put in the world of myself talking or doing something stupid on the internet, right? Yeah. But that's our experience because we make so much content that I have to be like, am I going on my phone right now to get updated on the news? Am I going on my phone to check a score on a football game that I'm interested in? Because a click away is
Starting point is 00:45:05 someone's opinion about me a new opinion that has been formed about me and has been stated on the internet yeah and most of the time is positive a good percentage of the time it's negative you know a good percentage of time is negative no it, it's not. No, I'm saying that there are negative comments. I'm saying, I mean, it's a small percentage, but I'm saying when I make one of my deconstruction videos, it's a high percentage of negative. Yeah, it's a different experience. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that caring about the,
Starting point is 00:45:38 like taking anything positive from the positive is almost as bad as taking anything negative from the negative. from the positive is almost as bad as taking anything negative from the negative. Like taking anything on personally that has to do with my online identity is probably not a healthy like psychological thing. But what ends up happening is you lose this, you start to become a little bit numb to people's perception of you because there's so much of you that's just out there like 15 years ago i might be really concerned about a particular photograph not where i don't look good now there's so many things of me looking absolute shit on the internet including the most famous image of me ever the one you took of me without a beard
Starting point is 00:46:23 is like that's you know know what I'm saying? Like that's out there on the internet. So it's like me saying something I regret on the internet, me looking a way I don't want to look on the internet. And so I think when you're just like, am I going to talk freely about my sex life in a way that doesn't compromise anything about my wife? Or am I going to talk about something that happened to me that doesn't compromise anything
Starting point is 00:46:47 about my family? Whatever. I think you just become much freer. And so I think it's just a, it's like attrition. We talk about these things. It's not like it's super strategic. It's more like, yeah, we don't care as much as we did a decade ago. So maybe we just end up saying things and it's like, I'm just kind of saying what I think. And I hadn't thought about it a whole lot. Maybe I should think about it more. Well, let's play another voicemail and see where this leads. Because I think it might continue this conversation.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Hi, Rhett and Link. I'm Destiny and longtime Ear Biscuits listener. Hi, Rent and Link. I'm Destiny and longtime Ear Biscuits listener. And the Ear Biscuits moment that was rent-free in my head is definitely Link talking about sorting the mail with Christy. It is something that I unfortunately think about often whenever I check the mail. Love the podcast. love you guys. Thank you, bye. Yeah, everybody gets mail.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And if you listen to our show and get mail, you might think about me having sex when you get your mail and you're sorting through it. But that, you know, that was back when I was trying to... I think the origin of that was kind of searching for a way to talk about sex without saying it. Or maybe...
Starting point is 00:48:13 Somehow we... I don't even know... I haven't listened back to it, you know? Like, the way that that came about. But I think it was... I think it was code. See, I can it was code. See, I can't even remember. It's like we talk about sex in such overt terms now that we didn't then.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I don't know if I made up the term for you or if I made it up at home or if I said that I made it up for home but I really made it up for you. I don't know. But you don't have to know. That's the wonderful thing. It's just out there. What's this? Hey, guys. My name's Brendan.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Just saw the tweet about the favorite Ear Biscuit moment. 100% the easiest answer. It was the first thing that came to mind. I believe it was the episode with asking your wives to rate you personally, physically, et cetera. And the best thing, I think about this all the time, I listen to this episode all the time, solely for this moment,
Starting point is 00:49:21 was when Link was talking about how many people would, you know, he was standing there naked. He was like, should I say Bush? And just the 20 minutes, it felt like at least 20 minutes of Rhett dying at it, bringing it up, Link trying not to laugh
Starting point is 00:49:39 at it. Nothing can go wrong with a good old Bush mention. I stand by that. Thank you all. Bush. Do you remember this moment? Well, I think that episode was, it was a pandemic episode. We weren't in the same place
Starting point is 00:49:55 when we were talking about the, no, the survey that we gave our kids was during the pandemic, and then we did one with our wives, maybe we were together. And should I say Bush? I don't. I mean, it's like, I don't remember. You Bush Bush? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I don't know. I'm glad that it's stuck in your head because it doesn't live in mine. It's like, you know, you just put it out into the world, let people have their moments. This moment is for you. This Bush moment is now for you. It's yours. It's my gift to you. Neither one of us remember it. One of the things... You got any more voicemail?
Starting point is 00:50:38 No. Unless you want them. This is somewhat related. Okay. This idea that there are things that we put out into the world at some point that then take on a life of their own for someone in some way. This was brought to my attention recently around Nerd vs. Geek, the epic rap battle Nerd vs. Geek. Okay, yeah. That we did, how many years ago was that?
Starting point is 00:51:21 I don't know. I mean. Ten? Ten years ago? I don't know. I mean. 10? 10 years ago? Because 10 years ago would have been 2013.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Let's see. What was it? October 3rd, 2013. Oh, yeah. So almost exactly 10 years ago. And one of the really cool things about TikTok is the way that these things have got a new life. And this is one of the things that has a new life is this rap. I've heard it. Yeah, I've heard this.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Well, and it's funny because I found- On TikTok? Well, I found one that is from this guy. It's Rob's, Robes, it's like his name is Robbie, but his TikTok is Robes James. Like the robes, the word, and then James. So I don't know exactly if I'm saying that right. But he posted, this is pretty great.
Starting point is 00:52:25 It is, he's like. Did you just call me a nerd? Geek? Okay, so it says, nerd versus geek, getting popular reminds me of this middle school talent show classic I did. So it's him and his buddy, and they're, I guess, 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Yeah, nerd. Two middle schoolers. They did it, their middle school talent show got 255,000 likes I love the fact that there's so many music stands back there. The orchestra's going to get up right after this. Unless you've got to hear the other verse. I think a lot of people thought they wrote it. Oh, this is getting quite a response. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Okay. So, well, but then what I's great. What I notice is that if you just click on this nerd versus geek hashtag, just the amount of this song being reposted and little pieces of it being contextualized and memified. And then, because we've been going in and looking at the Rhett and Link channel a lot more now that we're posting there again, you know, on a semi-regular basis, we can see the back-end performance of everything.
Starting point is 00:54:16 And the funny thing is is that, you know, these new releases that we're doing, you know, we're continuing to try to remind people, hey, we're doing these new longer form videos over there. And, you know, it's catching on. We have faith that it's going to catch on. But on any given day, other than the few days after release of these new videos, the top performing video by a long shot is Nerd vs. Geek.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Yeah, and there's so many. It just keeps going. It just keeps to this. Nerd versus geek. Yeah, and there's so many. It just keeps going. It just keeps getting views. I'm trying to see how many views it. Oh, 53 million views. The thing I'm trying to process is how it makes me feel. Yeah. How it makes me feel.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Because obviously it's like, well, it makes me feel good. Right? Yeah, I feel good that it's got a life of its own on TikTok. But we both live in this place, we've said before, our pat answer for, what's your favorite video? The next one. We always say, the next one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And there's this, I don't know. I'm trying to be like, I'm trying to be like, balance my desire and my like belief that, well, we got all this other stuff that we're going to put on the internet with the reality of like, well, we probably won't make another video that gets 53 million views.
Starting point is 00:55:47 It probably won't happen. Like if I was betting, are we gonna make another video in our lifetime that's gonna get 53 million views on YouTube? No, we're not. The good news is it doesn't need to happen. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:02 It's hard to think that it could happen. We're kind of in a different place where it's like, that's not what we're trying to happen. Yeah, exactly. It's hard to think that it could happen. We're kind of in a different place where it's like that's not what we're trying to do. It's like we've been talking about this lately about how good things are. Like how happy we are, right? Yeah. It's like I'm very, like I love
Starting point is 00:56:19 the stuff that we're creating in Mythical. I love what we're doing on the Rhett and Link channel. It's very creatively fulfilling. Would it be cool if it caught on a little bit more and more people watched it? Yes. Is it necessary for that to happen? No. It would help
Starting point is 00:56:35 us justify the amount of time that we spend on it. I mean, it would help if it supported itself financially. And I think it will. And I think it will. And I think we'll get there. Yeah, we're not going to stop, but it is kind of, it is pretty baffling. I think it's a good, if not
Starting point is 00:56:52 humbling experience for us to say that, like, we're putting these things out there that we're really proud of, and it's just not, it's not connecting yet to as many people as we thought it would. It's just, you know, and there's a number of reasons for that.
Starting point is 00:57:11 But the disparity between the overwhelming positive reaction in the comments to how many people are actually seeing it. That's not quite adding up yet. It's a little strange. It's just that we operate in a very different world than it was 10 years ago. The landscape was so different than it is now. I mean, there's plenty of people. Probably somebody listening right now is like, yeah, people, I'm
Starting point is 00:57:48 posting these videos and I feel so great about it and all the comments are so positive, but it's like, it's a thousand views. You guys got nothing to complain about. I'm not complaining. But I am a bit perplexed by
Starting point is 00:58:04 it. It's not a complaint. But I am a bit perplexed by it. But it's just this... It's not slowing us down. Well, I think the thing that I'm talking about, too, is this idea of the... I want to talk more about this book that I've been reading at some point. Maybe if...
Starting point is 00:58:23 I don't know what we're going to do about deconstruction updates or whatever, but I talked about this at some point, maybe if, I don't know what we're going to do about deconstruction updates or whatever, but there's, I talked about this on the society, on the AMA. I've been kind of slowly reading this book called Awareness by Anthony DeMello, who is a, he's dead now, but he was, he was popular in the seventies. And by popular, I mean, amongst, I guess he was a Jesuit priest and a psychoanalyst or psychotherapist or whatever and just from india and just just talks a lot about life living life and uh happiness and uh but he spends a lot of time talking about this idea of idea which is very it definitely resonates with somebody like
Starting point is 00:59:06 me who's a performer, achiever. I think it would probably resonate with everybody, but the way we have a tendency to identify with, you know, the image that people have of us, and this happens interpersonally, right? Most of the time, if people like you or people don't like you, they actually like an image of you or they dislike an image of you, an idea of you, which isn't really you. But we have a tendency to actually attach ourselves to the labels, whether that is, it could be, it could be something like dad, husband, YouTuber, whatever the thing is. And we have a tendency to over-identify with a label
Starting point is 00:59:54 and he's kind of making, he, I mean, this, the book is incredible, but he talks a lot about this concept of, um, you know, you really can't have that identification and happiness at the same time it's very hard to hold both of those things and and and the my favorite quote of the book thus far is if you i'm paraphrasing here. If you let it, if you let it, I'm going to have to read it. I can't, because I don't want to butcher this. If you let it. I wrote it down because it was so meaningful to me. If you ever let yourself feel good when they say that you're okay,
Starting point is 01:00:39 you're preparing yourself to feel bad when they say that you're not. Oh, so this goes back to what you were saying about the comments earlier. Well, and I'm just kind of talking about the, like, it's, I think the thing that I'm trying to do, so just to repeat that, if you let yourself feel good when they say that you're okay, you're preparing yourself to feel bad when they say that you're not. When you attach any of your own personal happiness and self-worth to someone's reaction to you.
Starting point is 01:01:06 And this is a really difficult thing for people who make their living hoping for a positive reaction, which leads to views and engagement and people buying things. And the business that we run here is kind of based on people feeling connected in a positive way, at least liking one of us. If they don't like me, they like you or whatever. And I don't know. I've been trying to figure – I'm beginning – when I read what people – especially it seems very real right now as you hear people talk about a moment
Starting point is 01:01:41 that you don't remember that is something that that person thinks about when they think about you. Yeah. So there's an image that they have of something that you said, something that you did, and maybe it's amalgamation of all things that you've said or the picture that they have. I mean, people begin to develop a picture of who I am, who you are, to develop a picture of who I am, who you are, who we are. Right. And they either accept or reject that. And that's fine and that's their right.
Starting point is 01:02:12 We do it too with all kinds of people. But I'm just, I don't know, just because I'm getting old and we've been on the internet for a long time and I do anticipate us continuing to put a lot of things out there for people to form opinions about. Developing this sense of detachment from what the response is, is like this is sort of like I'm in the midst of the beginnings of what that feels like. And it's a very odd thing for someone who has always sort of banked on being able to do something to elicit a certain reaction from somebody, and that's kind of like my bread and butter, is like performing, doing well, making something that's great, so you will say it's great.
Starting point is 01:02:56 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And detaching from that, but still wanting to make great things that we think is great. Well, yeah, I think that with the success of Good Mythical Morning, there was so much of like you either like us or the idea you have of us individually and as, you know, a friend duo, right? It's like, do I like these people?
Starting point is 01:03:21 Do I want to hang out with them as like friends through the internet? And then, yeah, so there's a lot of attachment to, do people like me enough to want to spend time with me? Is there enough of them to like, you know, to support my family and, you know, make a living, you know? So that was at play. you know, make a living, you know. So that was at play. It's been nice with what we've been doing on the Rhett and Link channel to say, okay, the main question I have here is not do you like me, or do you like Rhett, or do you like our friendship? It is still a pretty damn big question, and is at play in these videos, but at least there's also, did people connect with what we were creating? And it's, so there's a little bit of distance there, but there can be just as much attachment
Starting point is 01:04:13 to that. Did you like what I did? Oh, yeah. Did you like what I made? It's not really that different, but it's one step removed from just being, do you like me? Do you like what I made? Is at least slightly different. And I think that's what's refreshing to us is like, can I elicit a certain response? Especially like an emotional response. I think that's what's been so exciting about the Rent and Link channel is can we manufacture surprise? the Rent and Link channel is can we manufacture surprise? Can we manufacture elation?
Starting point is 01:04:52 Can we provoke thought? In addition to can we make you burst out laughing? Can you well up a little bit? It's like these are things that are, I think, legitimate experiments in craft that is very engaging. And we would do well to separate ourselves from the performance of those videos and say – And say, celebrate the fact that, like, people did have, they did have an experience that we wanted a successful, successfully curated experience, you know? Yeah. And it's, and that's why I struggle with, I struggle with reading comments and I struggle with not reading comments.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Right. Because you got to know if you succeeded at what you were doing. Because if you get the idea that, like— There's a chef who never hears if anybody tasted and liked the food. That's wild. That would be wild. Right? Aren't you doing it for people to eat? It's part of the experience, right?
Starting point is 01:06:02 Yeah, it's—I don't know, man. I don't know. I'm definitely still in a place where I'm just trying to figure it out because I was telling, me and Jesse were talking about this last night. I was like, I feel like anytime I read comments and even if, even if I go into a situation
Starting point is 01:06:19 where, and I guess a lot of people, a lot of YouTubers and people in social media talk about this in general or entertainers in general, that one negative comment is enough to ruin my day or whatever. It's like, well, yes, that is true. But even if I go and I read 100 positive comments, people who really get what we're trying to do on the Rhett and Link channel and are like, oh, I love that you guys are creating again in this specific way, and I see, I get it, and then they describe it, and they describe it in a way that's like, yes, you get it.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I love that feeling that I get from that, but I'm wary of it because, you know, am I letting that determine my happiness like am i am i walking away from that situation being like okay these people are responding to this in a positive way now i've let that be the source of happiness and now i need them to respond well to it in order to be happy but i want to be able to see what people think about it because i mean that's we i don't know how to create in a vacuum we've never done that we've always created in a way that well this is kind of supposed to connect with enough people for it to be sustainable because it is it is a business i don't know i don't have any answers i'm just kind of like
Starting point is 01:07:42 these are the these are the things that have been moving around as we, and I'm really glad we're having the conversation though, because we're creating again, right? Like we are not, we've been creating all along, but like we've been creating a bunch of stuff that didn't get seen that was in development. And now it's like, we know we're doing the thing yeah we got gmm over here which again is like it's our creation in one sense but again it's
Starting point is 01:08:10 you hang out with us red link stuff is like this is as creative as we can possibly be here it is you know um i'm so glad that we're doing that again but i'm trying to get to a place i'm just trying to figure out how to process it. And this people talking about the way that they view earbuds, the reason I'm talking about it now and see it seems relevant in my mind. It seems like there's a connection is that these people are talking about these moments that are significant to them based on something that we did in the past on this podcast that we may not remember. And that's just a, it's a, I don't know how to process that.
Starting point is 01:08:44 It's some, it's a weird feeling. It was intentional. I mean, the experience that we've given people that these moments that we no longer remember are very vivid to them is that's the product.
Starting point is 01:09:00 You know, it's nice to, so in one sense, it's nice to know that it works. That's a great way to, you know, to measure whether this works for people, whether they get it, whether they connect. Yeah, because they carry it, they carry pieces of our lives in their lives. And mission accomplished, you know. I think that's what we're trying to do there, here.
Starting point is 01:09:27 And on Good Mythical Morning. I think we're trying to, we're being much more calculated in the things that we're creating and crafting on the Rhett and Link channel. So it's like, it's a different, the experience we're curating is different. Yeah. But I hope that a lot of that will live in people's heads rent-free as well. I do. I completely agree. I think it will. I think it does.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I think it's just a question of... It's nice. It's nice. I'm glad that I'm taking up room in your brain. Well, and I think that's the thing. And not charging you for it? Trying to figure out what is the balance of... You're not charging me for it. Doing things that are supposed to, by definition, draw attention and entertain,
Starting point is 01:10:19 and then trying to not care about... It's just a... I don't know. It's a tough... It's a conundrum. It's an interesting point in life. I'm glad that... Look at me! I don't care that you're looking at me! Because I definitely spent a big portion of my life without an awareness of that. Right? It's like just not understanding that dynamic. And so it's not that I've
Starting point is 01:10:42 got some fruitful advice to give at this point. It's just more of a, oh, okay, this is beginning to register in more significant ways than it has in the past. And I don't know what that means. Do you have an aha moment today? Is that what you're trying to say? No, no, no. I'm... Okay. No, it's not just... It's not aha, because I didn't realize anything significant, I don't think. No, it's not just... It's not aha, because I didn't realize anything significant,
Starting point is 01:11:05 I don't think. It's just sort of... Seems like it could have been significant. This is a new thing to sort out. This has been significant. I'm going to leave you with a wreck, baby, wreck, baby, one, two, three, four. Listen to Brandi Carlile.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Her album, In These Silent Days, has a song called Stay Gentle. That was Christy and my favorite song from the concert. Stay gentle. And meanwhile, why don't you stay gentle? Stay gentle. Leave us a gentle voicemail. 1-888- EarPod1. Or just use hashtag Ear Biscuits. Hey Ryan and Link, my name's Carly.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I'm from Columbia, South Carolina. I just got your, or was listening to your most recent episode about Link's tattoo and you were talking about how people are like, oh my gosh, they remind me of my childhood. I'm 25 and you were talking about how people are like, oh my gosh, they remind me of my childhood. I'm 25, and you all remind me of my 20s, because I started watching Good Mythical Morning in my 20s, um, during a really rough time in my life when I did not want to be on this planet anymore, and you just give me a lot of smiles and laughs and refreshed me
Starting point is 01:12:23 during the day when it's been really tough. So I just wanted to say thank you, and that's really it. Hope you all have a great night. Bye.

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