Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Our Experience at the Secret YouTuber Summit | Ear Biscuits Ep. 353

Episode Date: October 10, 2022

Things get wild when a bunch of YouTubers get together for a weekend! In this episode, Rhett and Link recap mingling with fellow digital creators at the exclusive 2022 Youtube Creator Summit. Rhett m...eets one of the most creative young content creators and Link bonds with his fellow YouTubers while they help him sext his wife! Want to hear your voice on Ear Biscuits? Call 1-888-EAR-POD1 and we might just play your call on an upcoming episode! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:53 We're giving you a peek behind the scenes at the YouTube Summit. This is an invitation only event that usually happens annually, depending on what's happening with like global medical pandemic crises. I think it came to a stop, but they, they gave us an invitation this year.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Are we authorized to talk about this? And we went, I think we are not. We're never gonna be invited again. I think we're not supposed to talk about it, but the stuff that we're gonna talk about, we're not gonna talk about anything that we're gonna talk about. Yeah, we're not gonna talk about anything that we shouldn't talk about. We're just gonna kind of relay our-
Starting point is 00:01:30 I'm gonna talk about everything that I experienced. And I want you to hear about it, because you know what? These are like the YouTubery of, YouTubist of the YouTube. There's probably some sort of threshold of people they invite, the YouTubery of, YouTubist of the YouTube. There's probably some sort of threshold of people they invite, cause they only have a certain capacity
Starting point is 00:01:50 for people to come to this thing. And it's probably like, I don't know. You've gotta really be successful on YouTube. I mean, there's some criteria that they didn't tell us about, but I'm glad we were invited. Everyone there is succeeding on YouTube. Everybody that we talked to there,
Starting point is 00:02:10 if I didn't know them or if I didn't know them, it turns out that they're all- Successful on YouTube. Catastrophically popular. Catastrophically popular. I think it was different stages. It depends, you know, it was interesting, and that's one of the things that,
Starting point is 00:02:24 the reason I was saying, why don't we talk about this on the podcast is because I find myself talking, like I'm catching up with friends and it's one of the first thing that comes to mind because it's an interesting thing that we went to. It's a weird event. Interesting people.
Starting point is 00:02:41 And it's just one of those things that happens just because of the job that we have, an experience that we only can have because of this weird career that we have chosen and the fact that this career has gone unexpectedly well. And there's not another event that we can attend as creators that's like this, because, and I mean, this may be the seventh year
Starting point is 00:03:11 that they've done it. And again, during the pandemic, for two years they didn't do it, but like seven years ago was the first one, which we were invited to that one. I think we've always been invited, but we've only been able to go to like the very first one. We wanted to go to some other ones.
Starting point is 00:03:28 We're busy manly. And then this is, we're like, we finally were able to, with our schedule, say we could do it because it was in Palm Springs, but the way that they do it. Oh, can you say that? I just did, man. I don't know if you can even say that where it was.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I think we're gonna bleep that out. Palm Springs. Nope, another that out. Palm Springs. Nope, another bleep. Palm Springs. Oh, that one they had to bleep out and put a black spot over your face. That was two long beeps. Before we talk about that.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But hold on, what I was trying to say was the thing that's weird about it and different about it is they don't let you bring your people. You know, whenever you become a successful creator, you surround yourself with people. You have agents, you have managers, you have all types of people doing all types of things. Representation. Talk to the people. Talk to my hand.
Starting point is 00:04:18 You know, kind of a thing. None of that. So it's, you know, as a creator, you're going into this space where the only people who aren't creators are, well, they're YouTube employees. And it turns out that they're gonna really wanna talk to you about making shorts, which I guess we can talk about that later.
Starting point is 00:04:36 But my point is you can rub shoulders with other creators, get to know them, and there's less pretense because you don't, there's not a lot of people at the party, so to speak, who want something from you. Once you get traction on the internet and you start to go to like business-thrown parties. Mixed company.
Starting point is 00:05:02 You go to mixers, There's some creators there, but then there's everybody else who's trying to get in on that action and have these conversations. They want something from you. They want you to be involved in something. They want to go into business with you. They have business cards.
Starting point is 00:05:18 They have business cards. We don't carry business cards. So YouTube has done a good job of creating a space where you can just talk to other creators and you know that there's much less pretense. When you talk to other creators, they're asking us questions, we're asking them questions. It's a lot more sincere
Starting point is 00:05:39 and you don't really have to think as much, what did they get out of this conversation? Why am I bored to tears and I can't get out of this conversation? Why am I bored to tears and I can't get out of this conversation after being in it for 40 minutes? I mean, there are some creators that I'll see at an event like this and we've got an ongoing conversation about something
Starting point is 00:05:58 that isn't even related to our careers at all that we kind of pick up and keep talking about. Like, I'm not gonna talk, that's just private stuff, but like, it's just cool to have friends in the space to kind of like catch up and- Commiserate. Yeah, well, and just like connect with somebody who, there's a select group of people in the world
Starting point is 00:06:19 who understand the job that we're trying to do. First hand. You know, first hand, and it's cool to get to talk to them. Cause we don't, we're trying to do. First hand. You know, first hand. And it's cool to get to talk to them. Cause we don't, we're not part of the scene. Like we don't hang out with a bunch of YouTubers. Nope. There's a bunch of YouTubers in LA
Starting point is 00:06:33 we don't hang out with them because, just be honest, we don't hang out with many people at all. Nope. Because we do a lot of work and a lot of familying. And I love it that way. So we're gonna talk a lot about that, but I did wanna ask you a question. I wanted to catch up with you because I did see that
Starting point is 00:06:50 Dr. Emily Morse, sexpert who we had on the show, if you do recall during our episode of Sex Timber, we talked to her and maybe mentioned some contraptions that go into certain places on your body. I was the first to break the seal on that. Well, she explained that she had some things that she may send us. And I will say that we received those things.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And you know what? I feel like I'm not even gonna describe what it is because if you wanna go listen to sex timber, you can, and I don't necessarily wanna make this a- I don't wanna put a disclaimer on this episode. I don't wanna have to put a disclaimer on this, but I just wanna ask you, we received some things and, you can, and I don't necessarily wanna make this a- I don't wanna put a disclaimer on this episode. I don't wanna have to put a disclaimer on this, but I just wanna ask you, we received some things, and have you received,
Starting point is 00:07:29 have you fully received the thing that you received yet? Thank you for asking. Because I have. I- That night. I- That night I tested it out. I'm different than you. I was like, this needs to be- It was sitting over there on the counter in my bedroom.
Starting point is 00:07:51 This has to be for a special occasion. My wife was out of town. I just felt like a droid just trying on a new part. Listen, I have set an appointment to try it out. Oh, with a doctor. I need to have proper supervision. I'm serious, dude. Why are you laughing?
Starting point is 00:08:14 You mean that you have set a time with you and your wife to be like, we're gonna try this. Yeah. I haven't told her that yet. You put it on the calendar? Is it on our shared calendar? It's not on your blank wrist that you keep looking at. This is an expression, man.
Starting point is 00:08:29 It's not the 50s. Here's the thing, all expressions started with a reality. So when I look at my watch as a joke, it's not that I think that I have a watch on, it's just that I'm doing a time joke. It's a joke. It's so funny. This is why you need to watch Ear Biscuits
Starting point is 00:08:46 as well as listen to it. Well, it comes out on video later. I just can't wait. It came right out because I used lube. So I will, I believe that I will have- She sent lube as well. A report. We don't have to bleep lube, do we?
Starting point is 00:09:02 Just don't keep saying it. Lube can be like getting an oil change, man. Jiffy lube, you don't have to bleep lube, do we? Just don't keep saying it. Lube can be like getting an oil change, man. Jiffy lube, you don't have to bleep that. Not a sponsor. Yeah, Christy and I are going on a getaway and I'm bringing it. Taking it on a getaway, okay, all right. That's probably a good idea.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I will let you know when I try to- Take some video? FaceTime. So yeah, I'll get back to you on that. Okay, all right. Emphasis on the back. I'm glad we could catch up about that. I'm feeling a little sluggish.
Starting point is 00:09:40 We just took a little trip across town. I don't know when this is coming out. We don't do those a lot. Speaking of YouTubers, got to hang out with our boys Ryan and Shane over at Watcher. Mm-hmm. Because we're doing, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:54 they're on our channel, we're on their channel. I don't, yeah, that doesn't, I don't think it comes out until November though. So get ready for that. Yeah, there's a little preview. Set yourself an appointment. You know what I'm saying? Some things you gotta work up to.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You just can't go home that night and just watch us on that channel. You gotta build up to it. Right. You gotta loosen up. You gotta be relaxed. You gotta be in the right frame of mind. It depends on your personality.
Starting point is 00:10:18 But I will say that while we were on the other side of town, I remembered that, and Jenna was with us, it was the three of us, I remembered a place that Josh had recommended. Now Josh, of course, is- He's a foodie. One of the culinary experts around here. He's a mythical chef, which means a fake chef, I guess.
Starting point is 00:10:41 No, he's very much a real chef. He's real. And he has never led me wrong when it comes to a recommendation in this town that, you know, I love this town. One of the many reasons is all the food. He's crawling with food. So I just wanted to say, I felt like I built that up
Starting point is 00:10:59 because Josh built it up for me. You may remember that episode of, what's the show that we made? Good Mythical Morning, where we had corn smut, which is essentially a fungus that grows on corn, and it has like a truffle-like flavor, and there's a different name for it. I can't remember the name of it,
Starting point is 00:11:20 but corn smut is sort of the rough slang name for it. And this place, the chef at this, what essentially is a taco stand, where all the seating is outside. It's called B's, B-E-E-S. Yeah, just like a flying bee. Tacos. Taqueria, is that how you say that word?
Starting point is 00:11:38 Yep. Am I saying that right? And the, so this place, they do the corn smut and then what is the word? Did I eat corn smut? No, so they don't do, the chef does essentially like a coursed out dinner. I don't know if he still does this, but he does like a coursed out dinner
Starting point is 00:11:59 of that's a corn smut like tasting and he incorporates it into all the tacos, but you have to, that's like, he only does like one a day, certain days of the week or something. He has to call way ahead of time. I like, Jesse and I went down there one time on Josh's recommendation and we were gonna have
Starting point is 00:12:13 the corn smut thing and he was like, oh, that's one table a night and you have to call like a month ahead of time. He goes, now that I'm talking about it, it may be longer than that. But anyway, I wanted to make sure y'all got a taste of these tacos, which I just think that they're like the best tacos in town.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I mean- They were really good tacos. I feel a little weighed down though, because you stopped short on your third taco and I wasn't prepared for another taco, but you stopped short. My mind, one part of my brain said, just have a bite. And then my body said, eat the whole taco.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And I did. I noticed that you started, like, I took a couple bites and then I was like, this is my third taco. Who am I fooling? I'm not going here. Yeah. I'm done. I'm listening to my body.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And then I said, would you like the rest of my taco? Listening to your body tells you to stop eating? Yeah. Your body's saying the opposite of what my body's saying. It's called being full. And then- My body's like, bring it. So I give it to you and I noticed that you started eating
Starting point is 00:13:16 off of the other side. Cause that was my way of saying, I'm not gonna eat all the way through the taco till I get to Link's border. Right, where my mouth had been. I'm creating a rep border on this side of the taco. So I thought, I just assumed that you were gonna leave a sliver between my last bite and your last bite.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I assumed as well. This is how my brain works. I actually made it easier for you to stop because there was a border. And even if it was just a sliver, that would have been a little something. But then I look back at a lightning clap later. It's all gone.
Starting point is 00:13:49 And it was gone. I guess it's the thunder that claps, but you know what I mean. And Jenna had essentially done the same thing as you, but she had created a Jenna border on all three tacos and had used discipline to stop on all her tacos. And at this point, my body said, my body said, finish Jenna's tacos too.
Starting point is 00:14:12 I thought you were, I was like. Did you do that? No, no, cause my brain at that point kicked in and said, you do not need to do that. You've got a podcast to make. But I'm still a little- You don't seem weighed down. I'm a little sluggish.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I mean, yeah. little sluggish. I mean, yeah. Little sluggish. After I had dealt with Dr. Emily's gift and had an extra half taco. I gotta tell you, I mean, I was, you know, there was a little cup of beans and I think that hurt me because like I was in pain all the way home. I didn't want to tell you guys,
Starting point is 00:14:45 but like I was in a lot of pain. That wouldn't be from, I don't think you can, beans are gonna have a gaseous effect within literally within minutes. Yeah, they do though. It was 20 minutes. I don't know, we need to Google that. I feel better now.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Shop Best Buy's ultimate smartphone sale today. Get a Best Buy gift card of up to $200 on select phone activations with major carriers. Visit your nearest Best Buy store today. Terms and conditions apply. Okay. Okay. I, how did you, what was your disposition entering into the YouTube Creator Summit?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Because going in as what you might call an OG, you know? Yeah. You're going in as one of the guys that's been doing this a very long time. Yeah, there weren't that many people who were there at the first one seven years ago. And I know Hank was there, Hank Green. Yeah. There's a few other people.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I just can't remember them all. My mindset was, I was looking forward to it. I didn't have to get on a plane. We just drove to Palm Springs, which is not a great drive. I mean, you come out of LA and you think you can go to Palm Springs and it's like an hour and a half. And then you Google it and it says it can take anywhere from two to four and a half hours to get to Palm Springs.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Like there's just something about the way that the traffic flows out of LA at any time. I'm talking about two o'clock in the afternoon on a what? Going east. Tuesday? Going east out of town. On a Tuesday in the middle of the afternoon. It's always crazy.
Starting point is 00:16:36 It could take over twice as long. Could take four and a half hours. I would say actually- And that's happened to me before. Going any direction. Because I've gone south before, like trying to get to San Diego and then you don't leave before noon on a Friday. But we didn't have to get on a plane.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Six hour drive or something crazy like that you could get caught up in. I was pretty excited. I think I can get in a mode to be social. Oh, that's an understatement. You know, so it's like, I kinda, I don't feel like, I feel like I can turn on being an extrovert.
Starting point is 00:17:14 There was a certain point in the, let's see, so it was, we got there that afternoon, there was a mixer that night, you know, you stay that night and it's all the next day and then another night and then the next day, it's all the next day and then another night and then the next day, it's like a half day worth of programming. So we had two nights, one full day and then a half day.
Starting point is 00:17:34 So you can- So at a certain point, I had to take an, I had to go to my room for like an hour during the day and like take a nap. But other than that, I was in like, I was in what you might call link mode. I wouldn't call it an on switch. I would call it the dial broke and the dial came off.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You call this an on and off? I consider it an on. Well, listen. And then the dial is broken. Here's what I did. You know, I considered you, which meant that like, I was like, you's what I did. You know, I considered you, which meant that like, I was like, you know what? Whenever we enter into like a mixer or something like that,
Starting point is 00:18:12 I'm gonna go this way, you can go that way. You know, I just feel like I can give you a little space, you know, cause I mean, yeah, definitely. One of the people that we met that I like hit it off with, the long snapper, we'll talk more about later. We were hanging out and then like the next morning we were hanging out again at breakfast and in the middle of our conversation at breakfast,
Starting point is 00:18:46 he said, are you always like this? And I like took it as a compliment. Cause he kind of had this smile on his face. He was like, are you always like this? And I'm like. And what did you, did you say, what do you mean by this? I said, what you see is what you get. That's what I said.
Starting point is 00:19:07 What I didn't want to explain it like, well, you know what? I don't get out much and I don't make new friends. And this is a fun environment. That's how you would explain it. I don't get out much and I don't really meet people very often. I can't sustain this level of energy if we had like an ongoing friendship,
Starting point is 00:19:25 but like over the course of like a retreat, I'm bringing my energetic, I'm bringing my enthusiasm to this space because I legitimately was excited about connecting with people who spoke our language. And they were interested in me, I was interested in them. And it was fun. I think people might be surprised.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And incidentally, when we got to the first sort of gathering that night and you were like, you went to the bathroom immediately. And I was like- You always go to the bathroom immediately. And I was like- You always go to the bathroom first. Well, I didn't- Because you can pee and you can look in the mirror. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:11 And I don't like showing up at a place and walking around and talking to like five people and then having to pee and then looking in the mirror and realizing that there's something fundamentally wrong with my face. Well, that might be, you can't change that though. What do you mean? No, I mean, like it's not, I guess, unfundamentally, something that is easily preventable,
Starting point is 00:20:32 but no one had the heart to tell me. Because I was sparing you, you would have told me. But like, you know. But when you made that decision, we didn't talk about it, but I do think that for the most part- You're saying when I decided to go to the bathroom? I just went to the party
Starting point is 00:20:51 and just started talking to people. Because I do think that, well, because you framed it at the beginning as if you were like, I'm gonna go over here. Oh, yeah, we didn't discuss this. That was my frame of mind as well. Not just because I knew you were gonna be in link mode and there's only so much room for that, which is true,
Starting point is 00:21:09 but it was more like, we get a lot more out of this experience when we divide and have multiple conversations with people and get to know more people. Yeah, and then we come back together and we trade notes. And sometimes you'll have an interaction with somebody a little bit later than me. And then they will realize that they've had
Starting point is 00:21:29 the exact same conversation with both of us only separated by time because we're us. Maybe that's not the case though. I think that's less and less the case. Okay, then let's talk about, one of the things we can talk about is what do we talk to people about? And then see if we were giving people the same experience.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Like I talked to this one couple who, they were asking me, they knew I had kids, they don't have kids. And they asked me, should we have kids? and they ask me, should we have kids? And I'm like, don't put me in this position. This is like the most fundamental, talk about fundamental question that you can ask a person. I mean, like this is your entire life trajectory.
Starting point is 00:22:21 You're putting it in my hands? Like I can't tell you whether you should have children. I have a very interesting POV on this conversation. And so I'm like, listen. And they were like, well, I mean, just tell us your perspective. I was like, oh, I have the answer. I'm just not gonna tell you
Starting point is 00:22:40 because I don't wanna be the one who told you what you should do and then you do it and then your life is either amazing or screwed up. I mean, it's like, don't put this on me. And I think that's when you walked up and I was like, you know what, you take it from here. Is that what happened? Yeah, and so-
Starting point is 00:22:58 So what did you tell them? They asked, so this is exactly what happened. So they said, So this is exactly what happened. So they said, we're gonna ask you a question that we just asked Link. And then they asked the question, should we have kids? And the first thing I said is, well, what did Link say? And then I think the exact words were,
Starting point is 00:23:18 he got very belligerent. Yeah, yeah, don't put me in that position. That's what I'm talking about. The dial being broken. You're gonna shirk your responsibility on me. Is being interpreted as belligerence. If you're asking me if you should have children, then no, no, you shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I mean, we barely know each other. I think the question that they were asking, and this is how I answered the question was, you have kids, what is your perspective on having kids? And what would you say to someone of our age who is considering it? So I just asked, after I asked them, what did Link say? Just because I wanted to see what they would say
Starting point is 00:24:05 and hoping for an answer like the one I got. They used the word belligerent? Yeah. That's a little harsh. I said, okay, well, I said something like, what do you value? You know, like what is it that you think you're after with considering children?
Starting point is 00:24:24 And like, what do you like about your life right now? Because I was like, you asked me this question. I'm a guy who comes from a very particular background where I was on a very particular plan where having children very soon into a very young marriage was part of the formula that I was following. It was not a decision. It wasn't even a decision.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Right. And now here's all the benefits I have of being a 44, now 45, probably by the time you hear this, year old man with an adult child and a teenage child. And now I'm getting, I'm still young, I'm getting ready to have some fun, man. You know, the people we were talking to were younger than us, but older than we were when we decided to have kids.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And so then they were like, well, we feel like we've kind of like traveled everywhere that we want to travel. We're actually kind of looking to sort of settle down. I was like, well, that's it, you know, I'm not saying you should have kids, but the fact that you're thinking about settling down, sometimes growing a family is part of that process. So that's the way I interacted with the question.
Starting point is 00:25:32 It wasn't, I think that we gave him the old one-two punch. One-two punch, baby. See, I let him know that like, this is not something to take lightly. Yeah, yeah, you really set it up for me. I really set it up for you. I really set it up for you. I'm glad I walked up. I was messing with them.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I know you were messing with them. But I also felt like, because I didn't know them, it wasn't like the first time we ever met, what's wrong with this guy who I've never met? Like I've had many endearing interactions with this couple. Yeah, like right before the pandemic, I saw him at a noodle shop. That was the first thing we talked about.
Starting point is 00:26:06 And that's why they, cause it was me. Should we have these noodles? It was me, Christy and Lando. So they met Lando and so they kind of knew. They saw what the family looks like. They saw, well, they saw part of it. I got two other whole children that weren't there.
Starting point is 00:26:17 They saw enough. Saw enough. To draw a conclusion. So it wasn't like, who's this crazy person? Like, are you always like this? They didn't ask me that. Yeah, that was the person you had just met. Yeah, so your story's not really adding up here.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I mean, listen, I knew these guys, unlike the other people that I went up to that I didn't know. Well, my approach with people was, well, first of all, I gotta say, I'm sure you experienced the same thing. There is this, there's always a question when you enter an environment like this.
Starting point is 00:26:52 And of course, there's the people that we know and we have been friends with for some time and have been in this business for a long time and they were pretty well represented there. Like the Hank Greens of the world. Not to say that Hank Green is a genre of person, but you know what I'm saying, people who've been on this platform for a long time.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Yeah. He is one of a kind. Every time I see Hank, I'm like, you are such a genre. But to have the people that I did not recognize come up to me and say, hey, I've been watching you since I was eight. I literally had a person say that. I've been watching you since I was eight years old.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And then I had many others say, I've been watching you since middle school. Right, and they're like 18, 20, 22, 24. But it was cool because you never know. This is a big world that, you don't have to get a license to upload a YouTube video. You don't have to pass a test. You just start doing it. So the entry point is,
Starting point is 00:27:54 point of entry or whatever, the barrier to entry is nonexistent. But the people who've gotten to the place where they've quickly grown a platform, it was just cool to be like, hey, they're coming up to me and they're asking me questions. Like that was something that happened,
Starting point is 00:28:08 lots of people asking questions like, so like how, you're still making videos? Like, how are you still making videos? How are you still relevant? Like, I heard you guys have built a big business. Like, how did you do that? So I would enter into that kind of conversation. But most of the time what I was trying to do is just,
Starting point is 00:28:31 I mean, I don't watch enough. I don't watch very much YouTube. Yeah. And I definitely don't, I think most people that I was meeting were new to me. Their content was new to me, completely new to me. Oh yeah. So I would always be like, well, tell me about your channel. What do you do? What's your content? Your teen requested a ride, but this time not from you. It's through their Uber teen account.
Starting point is 00:29:03 It's an Uber account that allows your teen to request a ride under your supervision with live trip tracking and highly rated drivers. Add your teen to your Uber account today. Yeah, that's not what I do. What I did was, so I was sitting down at another time and there was this young guy. I would say, I don't know, 21. Could have been younger. And I had seen his content and I said a little bit of it. And I said, you know what, I love your content. You're like doing the lifestyle vlogging thing,
Starting point is 00:29:43 like you and your girlfriend. I just wanted to show him like, I know what's up with you. And he was like, me and my girlfriend. I was like, yeah, you and your, well, I was like, she's in a lot of the thumbnails. And he was like, You got the wrong guy.
Starting point is 00:30:03 That's me, that's a character I play. Oh. And I was like, that's me, that's a character I play. Oh. And I was like, okay, yeah, yeah. I've been watching real close. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're doing great. You're doing great there. I mean, you are, she's great. I think I'll stick with my method.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah, and then I ended up explaining. I was like, you know, the truth of the matter is I have watched your content, but I'm getting you confused with somebody else because, and I was explaining the, because he was a mythical accelerator candidate. You know what? And I'm sitting there like, we're trying to invest in-
Starting point is 00:30:35 You and your girlfriend. We're really excited about you and your girlfriend. We're trying to invest in creators and like, so there's people who look at creators and say- Maybe we should have stuck together. This person and say- Maybe we should have stuck together. This person is interesting. Maybe we should have stuck together. And you should check them out.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Do you want us to follow up? And I'm like, I just look at the channel, I look at stuff and I'm like, yeah, follow up. You should write a book called how to dig a hole immediately and then try to get yourself out of it throughout this conversation. It's fun, dude. Because it's uncanny, man.
Starting point is 00:31:03 It's fun, like, you know, there's a post pandemic part of this It's fun, dude. Because it's uncanny, man. It's fun, like, you know, there's a post-pandemic part of this that's like, I've been fucking cooped up, you know, kind of a thing. That's like, you get back out there. Are you saying this is a long COVID symptom? Hit switch, pull curtain, you know? Are you saying that you just, you're just excited? Yeah, this is a long, I mean, I'm suffering from my own version of long COVID. Which is you gotta start conversations Are you saying that you just, you're just excited?
Starting point is 00:31:25 I mean, I'm suffering from my own version of long COVID. Which is you gotta start conversations and I don't get out much. But you know, I'm just, you know, in a sense, it is what you see is what you get. Like I'm being very sincere. I thought he and his girlfriend made great content. Yeah, probably do.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And he just is his girlfriend. Right, I mean, it's actually a compliment. Some of the time. It's so convincing. And he was like, yeah, I've been watching you guys since Chia Lincoln, and I was like, oh, okay, yeah. Maybe let's keep talking. We can still make this work.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Have I screwed this up? So the people that I- I don't like putting on airs. Okay, I'm not- And I'm not saying you are. I just, the only thing I've said is that I say, tell me about your content. Yeah, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:32:11 That's how I started. Yeah, I'm not saying that's an air. So- That's a fair question. Okay, so I wanna talk to you about the people that I met and the way that I learned their story and then the way that I ended up hyping them up to other people at the Creator Summit. So.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Okay. I don't know, I don't know how I walk up to this guy, I can't remember. Young guy, I think he's actually like 25 or so, but I didn't, I thought, you know, early 20s, whatever. Yeah. And so I'm like, just tell me your story, what do you do? Yeah. And so I'm like, tell me your story, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:32:46 And he's like, well, I used to work at Cold Stone. Fair. And I was like, well, I'm not interested in your resume. I didn't ask you what you did before. No, this is pertinent information. He was like, I worked at Cold Stone and I put an iPhone like right here under my chin, giving you a POV of what I was doing at Cold Stone and I put an iPhone like right here under my chin, giving you a POV of what I was doing at Cold Stone.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And of course at Cold Stone, if you haven't been to one, if you're outside of America, maybe you haven't been to one, but this is basically like where you're taking a ball of ice cream and rolling it around and mixing it up with the ingredients on like a piece of marble. You're underselling it. I mean, they have two frozen mallets
Starting point is 00:33:25 and they have, it's like- It's pretty awesome. They artistically mushed the ice cream together and they call them fold- They fold the freezer. They fold the ice cream in with mix-ins. So he says, I started doing this and I was just doing these POV videos
Starting point is 00:33:40 and posting them to TikTok originally. Yes. And they were getting all these views. People just love this content. And I'm like, okay, wow. This is me in my mind. I'm like, wow, okay. He says, then I started, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:55 I kind of talked to Cold Stone. Maybe it was gonna become something where I'm, you know, I'm working for Cold Stone. Am I gonna work for Cold Stone as a guy who makes these videos? Long story short is for Cold Stone. Am I gonna work for Cold Stone as a guy who makes these videos? Long story short is because Cold Stone is a typical corporation with a bunch of, you know, people who don't understand how this stuff works involved,
Starting point is 00:34:16 they couldn't figure out a way to work with him in a way that made sense. So what did he do? He went and started his own ice cream shop. What? In New York City! Dang! And here's what he does. First of all, his name's Dylan, Dylan LeMay.
Starting point is 00:34:31 You probably, if you know this content, you know this content because the dude's got millions of subscribers and all kinds of views and really the shorts. On YouTube. So now, so eventually, and a lot of creators there at the summit were people who had gotten initial traction on TikTok and then because of the YouTube Shorts program,
Starting point is 00:34:48 you know, short vertical videos, 60 seconds or less, they've gotten all this traction on YouTube and their subscriber accounts have gone up really, really fast. So these people have grown faster on the platform in terms of views and subscribers than any previous generation of any wave of YouTube. Way faster, like ridiculously fast.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Tens of millions of views on each short, maybe pushing 100 million views on a short. Yeah, and he's got some huge videos, but he makes multiple videos a day. So he opens up his ice cream shop called Ketchin Ice Cream, and it's basically a gimmick ice cream shop where this is where he makes his content, and he's still doing his POV videos, but now he's got these ballsick ice cream shop where, this is where he makes his content, he's still doing his POV videos,
Starting point is 00:35:26 but now he's got these balls of ice cream that have stuff on them or whatever, and he throws you the freaking ice cream and you catch it in a bowl at the place, catching ice cream. What? And so he's telling me this story. What if you don't catch it?
Starting point is 00:35:40 They clean it up and they give you another one. He says you'd be surprised. What if you don't catch that one? At that point it gets uncomfortable and they begin you another one. He says, you'd be surprised. What if you don't catch that one? At that point, it gets uncomfortable and they begin to say, okay, listen, if you don't catch it this time, we're gonna kick you out. I asked him these same two questions. I never talked to this guy, I never met him.
Starting point is 00:35:56 What happens if they miss it? What happens if they miss it again? And he was like, it doesn't happen. I love your girlfriend in it. And then he was like, and sometimes you just take it and you just put, if they can't catch it, you just put it in there. This is a young kid.
Starting point is 00:36:07 This is cool. You know, he's in his twenties. I love the spirit. He's had this crazy success. He's got this ice cream shop in Manhattan. They just literally opened just a couple months ago. So he's just trying to just manage all this. He opened an ice cream shop to create YouTube shorts and TikTok content.
Starting point is 00:36:25 That was the means to the end. It's basically taking short form traction through TikTok and YouTube Shorts and immediately translating it into a brick and mortar business, which happened at such a scale. I mean, it's such a quick timeline. Anyway, so I'm talking to him.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Did he throw anything in your mouth while you were talking? I requested him to throw, at that point for the rest of the time there, I would go and just point at food and he would throw it in my mouth. That's how I consumed all the food for the rest of the week. Okay, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:36:54 So I'm talking to, so I'm- Don't believe it. A night later, I'm gonna, I'm sure you got people you wanna talk about too. I'm gonna finish the Dylan story because there's more people I'll come back to, but. So I had that conversation with him. The next night, I get into a conversation
Starting point is 00:37:10 with somebody who's been on the platform for nearly as long as us, Linus Tech Tips. So if you know, if you care about tech stuff and you watch YouTube videos, you already know about Linus Tech Tips. Huge channel, huge business. He's based in? Vancouver, I believe. Vancouver.
Starting point is 00:37:33 So, and lots of things in common with the way that he's built his business and the large business, a lot of employees, and so we had a long conversation just about what it's like to be a creator who started this channel and all of a sudden you're running this media company. Very cool conversation.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Absolutely. Seven years ago at the first YouTube summit, we weren't talking to anybody who had 70 employees like I believe he has. Yeah, something like that. And now we have 130. You know, it's like this strange phenomenon that we've been able to ride these waves.
Starting point is 00:38:07 So like to be able to connect was, and yeah, I was in the beginning of that conversation. Well, and so I'm talking to him, we're getting to know each other as guys who are aware of one another, but have never actually met and connected. Yeah. Dylan, ice cream man, comes into the conversation.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And I was like, I thought if Linus didn't know about him, I was like, hey, tell him. You know this guy? He's like, no, I said, tell him your story, man. Oh, you're a matchmaker. And he was like, well, I make ice cream. I said, no, no, man, start from the cold stone. Yeah, baby.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I said, tell it like you told it to me. That's right. And he's telling it. and then I'm literally like Crying? Like his dad. Oh. Cause I'm like, hey, what are you, tell me, I'm in the ice cream shop, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:38:52 What do you do when somebody drops it? I'm hyping him up, man. Yeah. Cause he's too humble. He was just being too humble about it. I was like, dude. You gotta be full of yourself to make it on YouTube. You worked at Cold Stone and now you own
Starting point is 00:39:06 your own ice cream shop in Manhattan because you can freaking film yourself do it. During that same conversation, another guy. Crowdformed. Enters. Again, if you know, you know, because these guys are so popular, Millad, okay? Very similar story.
Starting point is 00:39:25 This guy, his parents own a subway. He's doing the same thing. He's a sandwich artist filming himself making sandwiches. Are they holding the phone between their chin and their collar? Was that like, no. Or did they have like a harmonica mount? They did that in the early days,
Starting point is 00:39:43 but since then they have some sort of mount because that would be crazy. And this is what they do. They film themselves doing something and then they do a voiceover, very calm voiceover, that often is completely unrelated to the thing that they're making. It's this kind of like, break your brain a little bit
Starting point is 00:40:03 if you're gen X, millennial, zennial, what we are. Okay. Because this is, again, I'm sounding like an old man, but, because to me it's weird, right? You can't break me. You're showing me something. You can't break my soul. And you're answering a question that's unrelated.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And this is what the kids want, man. Now sometimes it'll be like, what's the craziest sandwich? What's the craziest sandwich that anyone ever asked for? It was meatballs and tuna. And he's making the meatballs and tuna and then he turns the camera on himself and he eats it at the end. Oh, okay, so he does eat it.
Starting point is 00:40:38 So this guy owns, I mean, this guy's parents own a Subway. I think they probably still do. He's still doing the sandwich thing, but now he's expanded his content. And he was one of the people that was like, I've been watching you since I was seven years old. And he is still doing this stuff. And then now he's doing something with Jimmy,
Starting point is 00:40:55 with Mr. Beast. He's got some, he's like eating Mr. Beast burgers on his. But again, it was one of those things that- It's cool, man. We get so in the weeds necessarily with what we're doing, what we're trying to accomplish, and also with just running a business, it just takes time. Yeah, it was nice to pull our heads
Starting point is 00:41:14 out of each other's asses. And then, well, yeah, and then talking to these, for lack of a better word, kids who are making this content with an iPhone strapped onto a thing on their bodies, doing these POV content, and they've been watching us since they were kids, and they're doing this stuff that is so, like, yeah, we're doing food content, but it's two dudes at a desk trying things
Starting point is 00:41:39 and making videos that are 15 to 20 minutes long, and we're doing what we do, and we're not gonna change what we do to any great degree, because it's a different thing. Yeah, but I could probably hold a phone between my chin. I mean, I can try it right now. But those kinds of stories, well...
Starting point is 00:41:56 The cameras, you'd be filming your guzzle because the camera's the wrong way. Can you see me making an ice cream? I think there are better, but... Can you see me making an ice cream? I think they're a better- Can you see me making a sandwich? I think that your shaky hands would disqualify you from doing that kind of content. But it was inspiring.
Starting point is 00:42:15 It's inspiring to hear like, oh man, only on the internet, only because of the internet, and only because of social media platforms like YouTube can this kind of thing happen where you just, and here's the thing I wanna be very clear about. Be clear. I don't look at this stuff and get annoyed or angry. I love it.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Or have this like, what, this is dumb. He's just making sandwiches. To me, I'm like, he's just making sandwiches. To me, I'm like, he's just making sandwiches. And it's crazy. Yeah, it's cool. And he's getting this kind of traction. I love it. Because he's doing more than that
Starting point is 00:42:53 and he's got this POV, not just the POV, the literal POV. It's deceptively brilliant. Yeah. Because it's- They've created a genre of content. They've created a new genre that I go home that night and I'm at a birthday party that I've taken Shepard to and I'm having dinner with the parents of this kid and their 12-year-old daughter is there.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And I'm telling them about my experience and I'm telling them exactly what I've just been telling you. This guy, this ice cream guy. And then the 12-year-old girl who's completely consumed by her phone looks up and says, you met Dylan? And I was like, yeah, and I was like, and I met Milad, you met Milad.
Starting point is 00:43:33 And I go through the people that I met and who were making the short form stuff and it's like, this is what she's watching. I love it. What was the last thing that filled you with wonder that took you away from your desk or your car in traffic? Well, for us, and I'm going to guess for some of you, that thing is... Anime! Hi, I'm Nick Friedman.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I'm Lee Alec Murray. And I'm Leah President. And welcome to Crunchyroll Presents The Anime Effect. It's a weekly news show. With the best celebrity guests. And hot takes galore. So join us every Friday wherever you get your podcasts
Starting point is 00:44:09 and watch full video episodes on Crunchyroll or on the Crunchyroll YouTube channel. I can't say it enough. I love it. It is inspiring. Meanwhile, I'm at the other end of the party
Starting point is 00:44:21 with the group of people that I'm talking to and I'm like, I'm going the other end of the party with the group of people that I'm talking to, and I'm like, I'm gonna sext my wife. And they're like, what? I'm like, see that guy over there serving pasta next to a cheese wheel? There was a freaking cheese wheel. That was like, he was scraping,
Starting point is 00:44:46 using a hot spoon and scraping cheese out of this cheese wheel and putting it on pasta. And I'm like, here, take my phone, take a picture of me behind this cheese wheel. And like, Christy loves cheese. If she loves you. So take my picture. So I texted Christy and I said, can I sext you?
Starting point is 00:45:10 Now, you know what, I'm sorry to say I've never sexted my wife. I just not, that's just not something we've ever tried. You know, I'm sure you have. Hey, I'm red, I have. Been sitting on this egg for a while, it's time to hatch it. Oh, I sext my wife all the time. This isn't about you right now.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Well, you made it about me. I haven't sexted my wife. I've done other things with the phone. Okay, great. And I don't mean, I put it in things. I'm not saying that. You put it below your chin and you just get, that's not a good angle for it.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I'm trying to create a new genre. Top down. Of video. That's just, well, okay. So anyway, she doesn't it. I'm trying to create a new genre. Top down? Of video. That's just, well, okay. So anyway, she doesn't reply and I'm like, well, take the picture and then send. So I get back in front, I asked the guy, I was like, do you mind if I take your spoon
Starting point is 00:45:57 and stand next to the cheese wheel? And the first picture I took was more of like a- Hold on, you took the chef's spoon? He was for it. Well. Turns out they were taking pictures of me talking to the guy. So you can see that I'm getting consent
Starting point is 00:46:12 in the pictures that I'm now showing. And then he moved, I was like, I had to explain to him, I don't want you in the picture, because he turned and started smiling at the camera. And I was like, I don't, this, I need to, I'm trying to sex my wife. I don't want you in the photo.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Can you just stand over here? And then I just stood in front of the cheese wheel. And at first I was like, like I was just like, I don't know, splooging on the cheese wheel. I don't know. I just kind of go, you know, I was at a party. Yeah, you were.
Starting point is 00:46:44 And then after that, all of my friends got in the picture and we're like, we're taking pictures. All your friends? All my friends at the party that I was making. You just, all the people that you just met. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were having a good time. And they were loving it. They were like, this is so crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I'm taking pictures that Link's gonna send to his wife. And then Christy never got back to me that night. And then- Was she asleep? She was asleep. And then, so then I actually, I didn't send the picture cause I was waiting for her to say, yes, I would like for you to sext me
Starting point is 00:47:19 or whatever she was gonna say. And then when I woke up the next morning, she had said something I think, but it wasn't, I can't remember, it wasn't related. So then I was like, oh, no, no, no, this is what happened. I went back, when I got back to my hotel room and I'm like sitting there about to go to bed and like Christy had texted me by that point
Starting point is 00:47:40 and I hadn't seen her response. So then I didn't, and then I knew that she was like, I'm going to bed. So I knew by the time I got to my room, she was asleep. So that when she got my sex, it would be in the morning. So I was like, I don't want to send the one where my eyes are rolled back in my head. I'm going to send one that just kind of looks like
Starting point is 00:47:57 I'm a normal guy in front of a cheese wheel. It's more of a morning cheese sex. I thought you guys liked to have morning sex though. Yeah, I just didn't feel like that's the type of thing she wanted to wake up to. So I sent her the other one and like, the good thing is she knew that like, even though I was in party mode and making friends,
Starting point is 00:48:13 that I was thinking about her. Yep. And then the next morning everybody was asking like, what did she say? What did she do? And I told them what I told you. And it was kind of like an anti-climactic story. She didn't respond.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Yeah, she thought it was, she thought it was, she said, very sexy. Oh, she did eventually say that. So she's playing along. Very sexy is what she said. I did see that cheese wheel and I, because what the guy was doing, which again- I didn't eat any of it though.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah, well this is the difference between me and you. I saw a guy putting risotto into a cheese wheel of Parmesan, mixing it into the Parmesan and then putting like truffles on top of it. And I didn't think about my wife, I thought about the risotto and I wanted to eat it and so I did. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I did think about my wife later, but in that moment, the cheese wheel definitely took up 99.9% of my brain space. That's fair. And it was very good. Of course, I did take the plate of risotto around and people were like, what are you eating? Because it was, it just looked like slop on a-
Starting point is 00:49:22 Yeah. Just risotto on a plate at a party. The only thing I ate was like, they had like little, little bites of chicken parm. Had several. And yeah, and I would, I took one, it would be one bowl with a little fancy schmancy little square of chicken parm.
Starting point is 00:49:39 And then, so I took that one and then I took more because I realized, I realized past tense that like, I hadn't been eating, but I had been drinking. So you can kind of start to connect the dots. And I'm like, I need to eat. So then I just, I started taking the- So that's how you realize that you need to eat? I had to- It's like, I need to eat
Starting point is 00:50:02 versus I'm hungry and I don't want to eat. It's like, I don't want to be belligerent. I need to eat. It's like, I need to eat versus I'm hungry and I don't wanna eat. It's like, I don't wanna be belligerent. I need to eat. So then I had to like recreate a full chicken parm on one plate with like seven. Well, there was multiple, there was multiple foods. There was a, I'll tell you all about the food. I didn't want any of the other foods.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Because I went around, this is what I do when I get to a party. I go to the bathroom and you've already eaten everything once. No, I go around and I eat every single thing because the foods, they change, they get cold. I wanna know what I like. I wanna know what I wanna go back for.
Starting point is 00:50:38 So I got the chicken parm. They had an eggplant parm on the other side. In between they had a cup of charcuterie that was like rolled up stuff and like cheese and salami and bread that was like artisanally put in this cup. I got that twice. I didn't even see that.
Starting point is 00:50:58 And then they had the risotto. What else did they have? And then they had some dessert later on, which I also ate. But lesson learned, don't get a drink and eat at the same time because then you've got, you're holding a drink and you've got a plate of food. Yeah. So you either drink first or eat first,
Starting point is 00:51:18 but don't do them at the same time. Right. And I had to learn that. That was my like COVID leftover, like forgetting how to go to a party. Cause I was sitting there talking to people and I had a drink and then I was looking for a table. And then next thing you know,
Starting point is 00:51:32 I put my drink down on the table so I can eat and a waiter comes and takes it. And I was like, I have to complete. One at a time. Complete party fail. But I think you're learning. I mean, if you're going to a party with us, you stick with Rhett.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Like he's like, hey, stand over here. Like when we went to the Rings of Power premiere, I took Lily, you took Shepherd. So the four of us are hanging around and like, Rhett comes up to me at like, when they start bringing food out and he's like, no, though. We had split up a little bit. Lily and I met some other people.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And then all of a sudden Rhett comes up to me and he's like, I figured out the best place to stand to get the food. They come out of this door right here. No, no, this isn't something I, I figured this out at every party. Yeah, what door do the people come out of with the food? Well, there's a- So come over here.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I was like, thanks. So at every party, there is a kitchen, right? There is a room or a kitchen in which the food is being prepped and delivered from. And that's the source. And you set up, and you don't wanna like stand outside the kitchen. Yeah, it seems like you were stopping.
Starting point is 00:52:35 You wanna be the first point that counts as being at the party, but is the first person that they run into when they come out. And here's what happens. So the people who serve at the party, but is it the first person that they run into when they come out? And here's what happens. So the people who serve at these parties, if you go to a premiere or you go to any of these parties where there's people walking around with plates of food.
Starting point is 00:52:53 The tray people. Would you like a so-and-so hummus? Here's the thing about- Would you like a so-and-so raw thing? Now see, you're already making fun of these people, but these people who have the trays, they're working class people, right? Come on, don't make me the bad guy.
Starting point is 00:53:08 No, no, here's what I'm saying. The only normal people at these parties, and I'm talking about typical like premieres and Hollywood parties, are the people serving the food. Everyone else is a full of themselves celebrity like me and you. True. Okay? And so, but here's what you learn really quickly
Starting point is 00:53:25 is that the people serving the food who are just people trying to make it, just they might be an actor, a struggling actor, struggling artist, but they're at this party. Can't believe you're making it about this. And no, seriously though, what they want to do is they don't like walking around with this food and having these people
Starting point is 00:53:42 who are so full of themselves turn their noses up at the food. Sometimes belligerent people. These people, especially in LA, they turn their noses up at food. What Jessie and I, because Jessie's just like me, she wants to eat just like me. Yeah, that doesn't fit my diet. She and I have figured out that you make friends
Starting point is 00:54:00 with the trade people and then they're like, every time I go to this couple, they say yes to whatever I bring them. And the big man drains it. And so- It's like they get their quote. You become a magnet for the food people. Yeah. And you can have like normal conversations with them too,
Starting point is 00:54:14 because they're not putting on airs. They're not there to impress, they're there to work. And I just find that you can have a- Come get me when you bringing a slider out, homie. I was at, we went to one premiere and on the way out, one of the Trey guys came up and he was like, "'Hey, I'm wearing Josh Sharer's pants.'
Starting point is 00:54:39 "'That's Mythical Chef Josh.'" Yeah. I was like, what? He's like, I'm Josh's brother-in-law. And he had- I have to be a trade person and I needed pants. He had just moved in, I think just moved into town or whatever,
Starting point is 00:54:54 and he was like, I had to do this last minute and I needed pants and I'm wearing Josh's pants. I thought- Those are the people that you wanna talk to at a party, the people with the food. I thought you were gonna say when we were leaving the Rings of Power premiere, and if you've watched Rings of Power,
Starting point is 00:55:08 like in the first two episodes, there's this guy who, he comes down in a comet, okay? And he lands and like this precursor to a hobbit or basically a migratory hobbit finds this naked dude. Have you figured out who he is? I haven't watched past the first two episodes. a migratory hobbit finds this naked dude. Have you figured out who he is? I haven't watched past the first two episodes. Well, by the time this comes out, I think people will know,
Starting point is 00:55:32 but that's not really what this is about. At this point in the story, you don't know who this mysterious guy is. I think it's Gandalf. It's not, you fell from the sky. He fell from the sky and he's like, he makes fire around him, but he doesn't, nothing's hot to the touch. And he doesn't, he has amnesia.
Starting point is 00:55:49 And he's big. But he's got a lot of hair and he's a skinny white guy with a big beard. And as you were leaving the premiere, when we had just watched these first two episodes and everybody's like, who is this guy? And it's like, it's not Gandalf, shut up about that. This woman comes up to you and says, what?
Starting point is 00:56:07 She said, did you, you played the wizard in the show? And I was like, thank you, yes. She's like, you did great. I was like, I appreciate that. It's like he didn't have any lines. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Multiple people have tweeted at me saying.
Starting point is 00:56:29 He just laid down in the fetal position in like a comic. People think it's me. Like people on the internet think it's me. It's just a guy with long hair and a beard. I don't know, there's not many of us. There's not many of us. Yeah, there's not many of you. I mean, it might be Rhett. It's gotta be Rhett.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I just didn't wanna get into the conversation of like, here's what I thought. My brain was working really quickly as I was leaving. You were leaving, first of all. And I said to myself, I don't wanna have this conversation, but also if I say yes to this, she gets to go home saying, I met that guy.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I met that guy. And so I just thought I would give her a whisper. Still don't know who he is. What character he plays, the stranger, is what he's been called. Two other guys I met, which again, just back to the YouTube summit, this is capturing the specificity, man.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Another guy comes up, again, this guy was, had watched our content since he was a kid, and I was like, what do you do? And he says, I make dental content, dental digest. What? And then he shows me his channel and I immediately am like, oh boy, like 10 million subscribers, millions of views.
Starting point is 00:57:42 He showed you his channel on his phone? Yeah. This is like his channel on his phone? Yeah. This is like his version of a business card. But I asked him, I asked him what his channel was. Is he working on people's mouths? Is it tooth extraction? Like I'm not into that. No, he is eating candy.
Starting point is 00:58:02 What? First of all, he's in dental school. He's going, he's gonna be a dentist, y'all. Okay. He eats candy, and then he brushes his teeth. Yes! He brushes his teeth? So he's like, these Mexican candies versus,
Starting point is 00:58:23 my teeth versus these, it's basically like, eat a bunch of candies from a my teeth versus these, it's basically like eat a bunch of candies from a particular place or whatever and do they cause cavities? And the way that he finds this out, again, this is a dental student, he brushes his teeth and then he checks the pH of his teeth, of his mouth, because the pH of your mouth after you,
Starting point is 00:58:41 one of the reasons that you get cavities apparently is the pH changes that take place when there's all these sugar bugs, or not sugar bugs, but sugar in your mouth. Sugar bugs. Are those his words or yours? I think he does use the word sugar bugs because I think bacteria feed on sugar when it's in your mouth and so it does promote
Starting point is 00:58:59 the growth of unhealthy bacteria which then contributes. I don't know how teeth work, I didn't go to dental school. And I haven't watched much Dental Digest other than what I was shown in the moment. But then- But he brushes his teeth. And he brushes his teeth. Oh, so I talked to this guy for quite some time. He had a lot of questions about growing a business
Starting point is 00:59:16 and I was- And you had a lot of questions about brushing your teeth. I did. I was like, tell me about those Mexican candies again. So then literally 30 minutes later, I started talking to another guy and I'm like, tell me about those Mexican candies again. So then literally 30 minutes later, I started talking to another guy and I'm like, what do you do? And he's like, I make dental content. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:59:35 We've already spoken. There's not many people here, bro. I just talked to another guy. He said, oh yeah, I know, I'm Dental Digest, yes. And this is a guy who's a little bit older who is an orthodontist. Again, these- That's a different thing. I know, but he is making like, he's also-
Starting point is 00:59:53 They should team up. He's doing multiple things. So this is- Like the dental power rangers. He's the bentist. Like, I guess his name's Ben, the bentist. And so he's got his content that's doing great, doing great on shorts as well. And he's got a whole different thing
Starting point is 01:00:07 where he's like answering questions. He does a lot of different things based on like quickly looking at his channel. But we got in a group of, I don't know, a hundred of these YouTubers that have been invited to this event because things are really working on the platform for them. Two of them, 2% of them are dental guys.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And this content is just so popular. It's crazy, man. Everybody's got teeth. I mean, most people. Wow. And then meanwhile, I'm on the other side of the party, like having my cheese wheel sexed fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And I look over there and one of the people I'm just talking to, well, I talked to the guy who turned out to be an NFL long snapper, and then his wife comes over and I was like, I'll be damned if that's not an Olympian. Like that is, I know who that is. I know who that is, but I don't want to have to ask her who she is, cause I've seen her on a box of Wheaties.
Starting point is 01:01:09 But her name is on her tag and it's Shawn Johnson. And I looked at her tag and it said Shawn Johnson. Well actually it said Shawn. She's my new best friend, Jenna, are you freaking out? I am freaking out. Do you want, you want to text her? Yes. Yeah, we can do that right now.
Starting point is 01:01:21 I did not say Sextor, by the way, I'm not gonna. So it's actually, so it's Shawn East, cause she married Andrew East, and here's the now. I did not say Sextor, by the way. I'm not good. So it's Sean East, because she married Andrew East. And here's the thing. I love both of them. I am obsessed. Hey guys, love you. Here's the thing about-
Starting point is 01:01:32 We had some fun. I'm a big fan of both of them. Andrew, in particular- They do family vlogging now. Because he is a long snapper, and I am recently obsessed with long snapping because I listened to this episode on some podcast where they were talking about long snappers.
Starting point is 01:01:52 And again, if you're not familiar with football, this is the guy who- Don't stay with that tone. This is the guy who bends over and throws the ball between his legs to like a punter or somebody who's kicking, about to hold the ball, to kick the ball. And is he a short ways away?
Starting point is 01:02:11 He's a long ways away. He's a long ways away. And it's this position that was marginalized for many, many years because it would be like long snappers. Over the years, as the specialization of different positions has developed in the NFL. It's kind of like a mirror of YouTube. The importance of a, the long snapper is so important. In fact, the joke is if you hear a long snapper's name
Starting point is 01:02:38 during the game, that means they screwed up because no one's gonna be like, the long snapper did a great job tonight. You only find, that's your job. If you screw it up, that's when people find out. And the long snapper for the Carolina Panthers is JJ Jansen, who's been, he hasn't, he's like been, he hasn't missed a game in like 12 years.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I think he holds the current record of any active player or something. But I was just fascinated with his position. And I find out Andrew was a long snapper for like 10 years. I knew you were gonna be enamored with him once I passed him off to you. And- But he came back to me the next morning and asked me if I was always like this.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Right, and he didn't ask me any questions like that. But I asked him a lot of questions about long snapping and it was just, it was fascinating to get to know Do they get hit hard? Because the reason why you're snapping it so long is so that the punter has more time to punt it. You have to block. And then you block, you're getting damaged.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Well, first of all. He had a pretty face. You have to be, well, he's wearing a helmet. You have to be. Good for him. If you're at any position on a football field, you're gonna be in shape and you're gonna be relatively big, I guess, unless you're like the kicker. Play for the Redskins. So this- Are they still called
Starting point is 01:03:48 the Redskins? Nope. Well, when he played, they were called the Redskins. Yeah, I think it's called the Washington football team now. And I don't know if they've got a new name. He played for multiple teams. They don't have a mascot at all. They were like, screw it.
Starting point is 01:03:59 We've totally messed this up. They're coming up with a new one. We're not even going to mascot territory. But as soon as you snap it, you have to turn it, you have to block somebody, but you're blocking somebody who's really close to you. And then you're probably just wrapped up with them for the most of the play.
Starting point is 01:04:16 So what did you, you talked to him about this? No, I just said, hey, no joke. I'm not just saying this because you're a long snapper, but I'm kind of obsessed with long snapping. Ever since I heard about the specialization of this position and how they're now recruiting kids in middle school to become long snappers and there's a couple of long snapping coaches,
Starting point is 01:04:37 he was like, yeah, so and so and so and so. Of course he knew who these people were. And he's also a long snapping coach. Oh, isn't this the thing that once, like in the past year or two, they changed college regulations to where- You can sponsor people. You can sponsor people and your idea was for us
Starting point is 01:04:56 to have a mythical long snapper. Yeah, well, my initial idea before I became obsessed with long snappers was to just sponsor like a weird position and then I became obsessed with long snappers was to just sponsor like a weird position. And then I find out about long snappers. That's it. That's it. Let's do it. And I don't necessarily know if we need to sponsor one.
Starting point is 01:05:14 What if we sponsored- All of them. A bunch of long snappers? Yeah, let's really- Like just like the long snapper fund. Right, so Andrew, we're gonna be talking to you about- I talked to him about it. I told him the idea. I said, we've been talking about it. There could to you about- I talked to him about it. I told him the idea. I said, we've been talking about it.
Starting point is 01:05:26 There could be some- Oh, you talked to him about that? Yeah, I said like, I feel like there's content here. You know, follow a long snapper through the season because it's such a specific position. So listen, don't do that show before we do. If you see a long snapper show, I don't know that somebody stole our idea.
Starting point is 01:05:43 I don't think it can be done without us. I mean, we're obviously very instrumental in whatever long snapper show, know that somebody stole our idea. I don't think it can be done without us. I mean, we're obviously very instrumental in whatever long snapper content makes its way on the internet. No, but I do wanna do it. I think we will be instrumental. The thing that I talked to him about was, he told me this story that he was in,
Starting point is 01:06:00 when he was in a, I think he was in a fraternity or he went to a party with some of his teammates and he did not drink. So he said, instead of drinking, I'm gonna do the gallon challenge. Milk. Every time you drink alcohol, I'm gonna drink milk until I've drunk a whole gallon of milk
Starting point is 01:06:20 because they say you can't do that. Right. And I'm not condoning for anyone to do that because I don't know what it does to your body, but apparently at a certain point. Milk does the body good. I remember Jason Batson, I told him this, I was like, when we were in middle school,
Starting point is 01:06:34 one day he got everybody's milk cartons and like a gallon equivalent of milk cartons and over that lunch period, people just started hearing the murmurs of like, Jason Batson's doing, he's gonna drink a gallon of milk cartons, and over that lunch period, people just started hearing the murmurs of like, Jason Batts is doing, he's gonna drink a gallon of milk today. He wasn't drinking a gallon of milk because we didn't really understand
Starting point is 01:06:51 the gallon challenge at that point. It was just Jason Batts is gonna drink all the milk. It was much less calculated. Much like the gallon challenge, he just up chucked everywhere. He was embarrassed. I don't even think he got into double digits. Oh my gosh, he was bad.
Starting point is 01:07:11 It ended quick for him. So he told me that, yeah, he went to this party. He went to this frat party after he had been participating in his challenge. And right when he got to the party, he had to run to the bathroom. And he said that like, it was one of those things, it's like, you know, you're getting to the door
Starting point is 01:07:30 and it's just like, you just can't hold it anymore. And just like, as he flung the door open, he just like vomited everywhere in this house. He's like, you wonder how it just gets everywhere? Like how somebody just totally destroys a bathroom. It's like, well, I know because I was that guy. And I was like, and then how long did you spend in there just trying to clean it up?
Starting point is 01:07:50 He was like, no time at all. You gotta leave. You gotta get out of there. So then I told him my story of like, when we were in Park City and we met our high school friend, Eric, and I'm really developing a reputation here. I don't really drink that much, but when I do, I really have a story to tell. I don't really drink that much,
Starting point is 01:08:05 but when I do, I really have a story to tell. I don't really drink that much, but when I drink, I drink that much. I was just, I was just felt really sick the next day and we sat at this coffee shop and I was embarrassed to tell him that I was hung over and like the sun was just baking in and baking in. And at least my recollection now is that
Starting point is 01:08:26 he ordered some food. I think it was an egg, but I don't know what it was. It was a raw egg. It was like a sunny side up egg. It made me sick to look at it. And I ran to the bathroom and the same thing happened to me. I was like, dude, I know how you feel. And then I just hurled on every vertical surface
Starting point is 01:08:43 in that bathroom. But then I just spent the next 15 to 20 minutes just like pulling paper towels out and just like mopping everything down. And then I come back out finally, and you're like, what happened? I was like, no, it just, there was a line. I don't remember what I said, but I felt horrible.
Starting point is 01:09:01 The toilet was not going very slow. That's what I talked to him about. So no real long snapping. I asked him at one point if he was ever in the Olympics. He said no, and I just gave him a hard time. I don't know if I've ever- He was like, I played in the NFL. I was like, yeah, but you weren't on a Wheaties box.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I don't know if I've ever met a gold medalist before. She was also on a Cheerios box. And I was like, that's the ticket, girl. And also let me say that Andrew and Sean were on our team. We divided up into teams and our team, and first of all, it was a scavenger hunt. And that involves some athletic stuff. And I looked at our team and I was like,
Starting point is 01:09:40 we have a former NFL player and an Olympian on our team. If we don't win, it's a problem. It's a problem, and we did, we won. It's player and an Olympian on our team. If we don't win- It's a problem. It's a problem, and we did, we won. It's a problem. Team Yellow won the whole thing. But just the aspect of, I mean, between all the goofing off, like you're saying,
Starting point is 01:09:55 it was nice to have conversations with people where they valued our experience and we were fascinated with theirs and how there's so much overlap in where they're going and what they're trying to build and what we've already built in a lot of ways and just how we can kind of pay it forward and help them out.
Starting point is 01:10:19 But also there's so much for us to learn at the same time because like the emphasis on shorts is a totally new thing for YouTube, like grappling with the TikTok of it all. And so everyone there has a spirit of taking these tools and what the algorithms, how they behave, being a student of finding the intersection between technology and self-expression
Starting point is 01:10:47 to reach an audience and connect with them. And I just found that very invigorating. You know, and it was cool to be seen as people who were OGs, still relevant and valuable to their experience. I mean, Stevie was invited to be a- A speaker. One of the speakers there talking about,
Starting point is 01:11:09 there were like four breakout sessions that everybody could go to and they happened twice. So they ended up being like small groups. So she came to Palm Springs to talk about building a team, which a lot of YouTubers are interested in doing. And it's a hard thing to figure out. We weren't allowed to see her. I did see her.
Starting point is 01:11:27 How did you see her? I walked up to her before her thing and she immediately started laughing because I was wearing my glasses and my shorts and my Palm Springs shirt. And she was like, you really look Palm Springs right now. I was like, well, I'm having a ball.
Starting point is 01:11:44 And she was like, well, you gotta get out of here. But I would, you know, I'm proud of what we have at Mythical that it's not just about the two of us, it's about our team and like Stevie represented in being there and like lots of people, like even people who've been around the block many times, like Marques saying he got a lot out of her session. It's really cool. saying he got a lot out of her session.
Starting point is 01:12:07 It's really cool. And then they had this thing called a magic mirror where you could go up to it, like a mirror, mirror on the wall. You ask them something about YouTube and then you get a response. And I don't know exactly how it worked, but we were supposed to go in and answer people's questions,
Starting point is 01:12:23 but we interacted with the mirror. There was a guy, I don't know if you knew this, Rhett, but there But we interacted with the mirror. There was a guy, I don't know if you knew this Rhett, but there was a guy behind the mirror. He was speaking through a speaker. So it looked like the mirror was talking. I know which guy it was too. And then when we came out, after interacting with this guy,
Starting point is 01:12:37 like the YouTube person was like, how did it go? And I was like, honestly, he was kind of an asshole. And then you said, well, Link, he's a mirror. He's just reflecting back what he gets from you. And I was like, oh, okay. That's pretty fair. So, but he was a fan. So like we were giving each other, he knew who we were.
Starting point is 01:13:02 I was giving him a hard time. He's freaking mirror, he was playing a character. Well, one of the things too- I didn't hurt his feelings, I don't think. No, one of the things that I'll say is obviously, okay, YouTube, not perfect, right? YouTube is a corporation. Obviously, their goal as part of Google
Starting point is 01:13:22 is to grow, make money, right? But we have over the course of our career gotten to know the people who work at YouTube. And when it comes to places where you can make videos, right, if you're just a creator and you say, okay, well, I can make videos on TikTok, I can do things on Instagram, I can do things on Instagram, I can do things on Facebook, I can do things on whatever the platform is.
Starting point is 01:13:48 And we do things everywhere. We put content everywhere, but there's one platform in which you actually have a connection with the people who are making these decisions and feel like, oh, if I have a complaint or if I have this idea or, obviously we're privileged in that we've been on the platform for a really long time
Starting point is 01:14:12 and we have a lot of subscribers and we have a big, so that we, and not everybody has that. It's true of a certain level of creator. But ultimately what I'm saying is that they're not doing a perfect job by any means, but they're doing a much better job. There isn't a close second. There's no other platform that is actually catering to
Starting point is 01:14:30 and listening to the creators and understanding that the people who make the content on their platform are the heart and soul of the platform. And people get mad at YouTube because they, you know, people get mad at everybody about everything. That's just kind of the way the world works now. And so if you can get mad at somebody about something, you know, people get mad at everybody about everything. That's just kind of the way the world works now. And so if you can get mad at somebody about something, you're gonna find a way to do it.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And you're gonna go on Twitter and you're gonna say something. But I'm just gonna say firsthand, there's no summit for any other platform. There's no place where you actually know multiple people who work for this corporation and you know them and you consider them, oh, hey, so-and-so, I've seen you multiple times at multiple events, I kind of consider you a friend.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Like, they are doing a good job of connecting with and listening to the people who are the heart and soul of their platform. And I gotta hand it to them. I mean, that's why if we can make it to events like that, we're going to. A lot of times we can't because of our schedule. But I think it's because you get the sense that,
Starting point is 01:15:29 first of all, I'm gonna get to meet other people who I can relate to, who do what we do. We're gonna learn things. We're gonna make important connections. But we're also gonna think, well, okay, well, what's coming down the line now? Like, what is important to YouTube right now? And how can we, how does that make us better creators
Starting point is 01:15:44 on this platform? And how do we, how does that make us better creators on this platform? And how do we do a better job of connecting with our fans and continuing to run a healthy business? There's not many opportunities like that outside that. Yeah, and it rejuvenated, you know, it rejuvenated my energy to continue to pay it forward to other creators. And, you know, with our Mythical Creator Accelerator,
Starting point is 01:16:07 where we're literally investing money into other creators' businesses to help them accelerate their building their own brand, not in the same way that we did, but in a similar, in their own, their own, to build their own version of what we've built with Mythical is an exciting aspect of what we're literally investing in. And so it's rewarding to have those conversations with other creators and know that they,
Starting point is 01:16:33 that it can be a mutually beneficial relationship. And there's a lot more potential there. My one feedback for YouTube though, at a certain time, it got a little corporate when they were like, we're all eating lunch and they're like, you gotta get to the next session, the next like programming session. But everybody said the content is about to start.
Starting point is 01:16:57 And then you start walking and somebody else would say, the content is this way. It felt weird. It's like, don't use the word content so much. It's like, it's a session. The stuff. The stuff is this way. I mean, the session, the program is about to begin.
Starting point is 01:17:14 The thing you're looking for is this way. The content is about to start. It's like, you know, that word, you're stretching it too thin, YouTube. Okay. Work on it. Good feedback. You're getting it too thin, YouTube. Okay. Work on it. Good feedback. You're getting a little too, what's it called?
Starting point is 01:17:30 Bubble-ized here. One thing that I will say, there's always a little bit of swag at these events. And there's usually a piece of clothing. And I think this year I got my favorite one ever. I brought it. Oh, really? Show and tell.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Dr. Emily was not there. She did not bring swag. Oh, he's off. He's trying to get off camera. He's gonna make a reveal. There it is. Hello, I'm very comfortable in my robe. Oh, what's that you say, what's my YouTube channel?
Starting point is 01:18:08 Good Mythical Morning. Can you read that? Jenna, you're exactly right. She said, you look like you're wearing a circus tent. I love this. It's a terrycloth robe that you, I mean, put a pole in the middle of it, man. So are you telling me that you're-
Starting point is 01:18:23 You could have said, there already is one. Well, here's the thing. Literally a week in the middle of it, man. So are you telling me that you're- You could have said there already is one. Well, here's the thing. Literally a week before the Creator Summit, I was on Amazon. I go on Amazon sometimes and other websites. I'm not just exclusive to Amazon. I like that Prime shipping though. Jeffrey Bezos.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Looking for robes. I got a robe. I know, but I don't. That one. And now I got this one, and here's the thing about this robe, is that it's not technically reversible, but it might as well be.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Yeah, it's like you're wearing a different color circus tent. I only do this between December 18th, my wife's birthday, and January 1st. I'm gonna wear this every day. Yeah, you're a candy cane. Yeah, I'm a candy cane man. Don't encourage him.
Starting point is 01:19:15 I mean, look at that. I'm the most relaxed Santa there's ever been. I'm like. We had fun, didn't we, Rhett? Oh, and we got massages. We didn't give each other massages. You didn't make that joke when we showed up at the massage parlor, I was gonna say parlor,
Starting point is 01:19:29 the spa at the same time. Yeah, we did that. But that was nice. Thanks for, yep. That was nice. Glad you added that. Yeah, well, I'm just saying I saw myself in this robe. This podcast is over. Don't start talking about massages. Oh, no, I'm just saying that like it was, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:42 I hadn't had one of those in years. We gotta close this thing down. Yep, so we have fun. I gotta, it's my rec. Baby rec, baby one, two, three, four. If you're into hip hop like I am, then you already know about this. I don't need to tell you, but I just wanna validate
Starting point is 01:20:00 what you already know to be true is the new JID album, The Forever Story is really good. So if you haven't listened to the album, you should. And if you have, you should watch his Tiny Desk concert, that NPR series. It's nice, it's nice, it's nice. He's- Three nices from Link Neal.
Starting point is 01:20:26 All right, what are we doing next week? Do we know? We do know, we wrote it down, but I don't know at this moment what it is. Oh, we're gonna be talking about what scares us the most. What scares us the most. Because it's October, and that's the month where you gotta be real scared
Starting point is 01:20:41 of things. We're gonna take your call-ins. We're prepping them up. What? Oh, that's the week after. So maybe you can still call in. So what scares us most is next week. Yeah, not what scares you the most. And then what- And then after that- Things that have scared you the most
Starting point is 01:20:58 is the following week. Things that you- Is that too redundant? No, because there's people talking about like paranormal, spooky, supernatural, crazy shit that's happened to you. We shouldn't have these programmatic conversations within the podcast, but I was just trying to make it a legitimate teaser.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Yeah. What is our number? 188- EarPodOne. And don't forget to talk about Ear Biscuits on the internet with hashtag Ear Biscuits because we will find you. And you know what? Have a baby. I don't forget to talk about Ear Biscuits on the internet with hashtag Ear Biscuits because we will find you. And you know what? Have a baby. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Hello, Rhett and Link. I was just listening to your latest Ear Biscuits release, and I really want to thank you two for talking about local elections. You started to talk about, you know, the possibility of being a mayor of a town. of a town. I have served on my small town city council, and I am currently running to be in my state's legislature in the Georgia State House of Representatives. You are very correct in saying that these hyper-local elections are incredibly important. If you really want to start affecting change literally right outside your own front door, it's not about being president of the United States. It's about being on those groups of people that help make decisions about how your city is developed and planned and run. You are very correct about if you're doing it right, it is an act of service. That's why I like to describe myself as a public servant rather than a politician.
Starting point is 01:22:24 I'm a public servant first and a politician second. So I will see you guys at Mythicon. Thanks for all you do. Good mythical greetings to you. My name is Matt out of Alabama. And I just thought you guys should know that I have a recurring dream where I travel to your studio on a sweepstakes of some kind, and I desperately try to convince one of you or Stevie to give me a job in HR for some reason. To be clear, I love my job, and I don't think I would take another offer,
Starting point is 01:22:58 but that's a dream I have, and I apologize. I don't know. Hey, Rhett and Link. This is Paige from Detroit, Michigan, and I just wanted to let you guys know that my dog with anxiety loves to listen to you guys. I mean, I love to listen to you guys too, but she loves to listen to you guys while I'm gone. It helps her so much. She just sits on the couch and curls up
Starting point is 01:23:21 and listens to you guys while I'm gone. So just to let everybody know that your podcasts are for dogs too okay thank you very much we love you bye

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