Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Our Most Awkward Work Meeting Ever | Ear Biscuits Ep. 473

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

Oh man, it happens to the best of us, but how do you say something? In this episode, Rhett & Link discuss a work meeting that had them squeamish, decide whether or not Florida counts as a Southern state, and give some ideas for those who are chronically late. Plus, can we as humans truly be altruistic? To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm Link. And I'm Rhett. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we are going to be exploring your worlds by connecting them with our brains and experience and bringing our worlds together in an incredible synthesis of humanity. That's what we do on this podcast,

is that things are happening in your life. You're wondering about things. You're trying to approach things. And we're doing the same thing. We're all just people. We're all just you're trying to approach things, and we're doing the same thing. We're all just people. We're all just little trees trying to grow up into big trees, trying to get the right amount of water and sun and balance,

trying to fight the elements that are trying to blow us over, trying to continue to drop our fruits everywhere we go, or our seeds and let them blow in the wind. And sometimes it can be hard. I'm not trying to drop my seeds in the wind. We don't have seeds anymore because we got vasectomy, but we still do. Vasectomy.

I say vasectomy because if we got it together, it was just one, okay? Technically, it was one. I think it was technically two. It might as well have been one. I mean, it was two in quick succession, but I treated it as one in my mind. I hope that they were two distinct.

When we got vasectomy, we lost the ability for seed. But anyway. But we're blooming where we planted. We are still blooming where we're planted, and we hope you are too, and let's just have a great big humanity experience today. What do you do when you're in a luncheon? I know what you're gonna talk about.

What do you do when you're at a lunch with somebody? Maybe it's a breakfast, maybe it's a dinner, maybe it's just a coffee. And they're talking and there's something on their lip. There's like that... I don't want you to give the details because I would like to describe how it developed because I think that's a key point of this conversation.

Can I describe in detail how it developed? Yeah. Because I was closer. We didn't talk about it, but you were also thinking about it? It was the only thing. I don't know what the meeting was about. But then afterward, we didn't talk about it. No, we didn't, but I knew we would here.

Yeah. Let me just, I'm just gonna describe to you what unfolded. What happened to us. You've seen this probably. So the first thing that happened was there was a person, I'm not gonna say whether it was a man or a woman. It was a person and they were talking. And we were, yeah, it was, I mean, this was,

it was just us and them basically. And there was, I mean, there were two other people there, but they were there with us. So it was, this was an intimate gathering. Okay. It was close range. The first thing I noticed is deeper in this person's mouth. You're looking deep in the mouth?

This person was talking and they were opening their mouths and I just, out of the corner of my eye, I mean, my attention was drawn to a spit string that had developed between two teeth. Oh, God, yes, I saw that. Okay, that's step, because, I mean, you're talking to this person and they're talking to you. You're listening to them talk to you.

They're talking directly to us. Thank you for describing. And I'm just saying, when they're talking, you're looking at them talk, and if there's a string of... I wasn't looking at this person... ...spittle connecting the top and bottom teeth. I wasn't looking at this person's mouth.

What? It was just, my eyes were drawn to it, because I saw a flash. A flash of something. I thought, oh, it's a flash of spit. It happens. It happens in everyone's mouth from time to time. And then every time. But then it began to grow. And it was like. Every time they else.

It was like what started as a spiderweb filament. Grew into a fishing line. And I was like, it's not getting smaller, it's getting bigger. And then it, I don't know how this happened. It migrated from the teeth to the lips. It was trying to come out. And then it was on the lips for a while and it was going up and down.

Boingy boingy boingy. And then? Is it gonna break? Is it gonna stay that way? I'm getting a, hold on. It's like a vertical high wire. I'm getting, I know this is shallow. I'm getting nauseous thinking about it and I was getting nauseous as I was watching it. I have no idea what this person was talking about.

Let's just be honest. I was watching this string develop and then the string snapped and it snapped into a little white ball that was on the bottom lip. You were closer than me. Oh, I was watching it, boy. And then it went from bottom lip to top lip,

and it was going all around me. It was traveling. I'm about to throw up. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know why, I don't know why. I eat so much crazy shit.

I don't know why this is bothering me. I was sitting there drinking a latte, and I ordered food. I was the only one at the table to order food. Let me just say, if it had have been a beautiful woman, it might have been fun to watch this. But, uh, it wasn't a beautiful woman, so... okay. Well, now you're making it sound like it was an ugly woman. No, no, no, I'm just... no, no, no, I'm just... it was a man.

Okay, alright, I mean, you already knew that. So anyway, so... You already knew that. So then... hold on, the ball... You already knew that. So then, hold on, the ball... A woman would never. The ball went back into the mouth and landed on the tongue. And then it began to be on the tongue. Oh, God, Rhett.

Why are you... Why are you... I just want you to know what we went through. I wasn't watching it this... I want you to know what we experienced.. I wasn't watching it this time. I want you to know what we experienced. You could look away occasionally, which I was doing. I tried.

I looked at you a lot. I looked at you listening. You were behind me. Anyway. He's listening, I'm gonna look at him. There's no white thing dangling from his face. So this thing had quite a journey. Why would he hit his tongue?

Didn't he swallow? I don't think he knew it. I don't think he knew it. I don't think he knew it. It's light as a feather. And then it, I guess he ate it at some point. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened, but I'm sorry. You were, you were, I mean,

I was wondering why you were taking notes during the meeting, but you were writing down everything that was happening to this spittle thing. You think I was taking notes? Well, you remembered all of it. Oh, I just, listen, man, steel trap. I remember everything. I tried not to look that closely,

but the thing it did for me was, I started licking my lips. Oh yeah. I knew there might be something in the corner. I lick my lips a lot. I'm licking this corner, I'm licking that corner. I see myself on camera sometimes. He's talking. I'm like a little lizard, why am. I lick my lips a lot. I'm licking this corner, I'm licking that corner. I see myself on camera sometimes. He's talking.

I'm like a little lizard, why am I licking my lips so much? It's because of this. Yeah. It's because I wanna prevent that happening. Yeah, you know what I'm, I'm gonna keep. You gotta keep, you gotta drink some water. Also, I found myself drinking my water like, yep. Yep, drinking a lot.

Looking at him, eyebrows raised like, mm, this is, maybe you wanna try it. Mm, yeah. I highly recommend this water. All you need, all you need is a, but listen, it happens to the best of us. I was drinking the water, I was swishing it around. It happens to the best of us.

Well, that's nice. I'm breathing in. And I gotta say that there's a threshold. Nothing invited him to reciprocate. You know, okay, let's say somebody's got something on their face. You tell them. You know. This is beyond the threshold of things. You don't... Hey, you got something between your teeth.

You can't mention this to somebody. You can't say anything about it. You got something bridging the gap between your lips. It's behind the wall of appropriate commentary. But it's the only thing everyone is thinking about while it's happening. You got something on your bottom lip. I don't know how you bring it up.

You got something on your top lip. Before I understood what Ash Wednesday was, because I didn't grow up with a lot of Catholics. Now it's back on your bottom lip. I went to work at my first engineering job and there was an engineer and he had the Ash Wednesday mark on his forehead. It's on your tongue now.

And I saw him and I thought to myself, I need to tell this guy that he's got something on his forehead, he touched ink or something. I'm a Baptist, I don't know about Catholics. I didn't know about it either. We had no Catholics, we had one Jewish family in the whole town of Buies Creek, okay? Like we were ignorant in many ways.

So it took me, I mean I'm literally at a job having gone to college. Hold on, it's not a Jewish thing. Well, you're not listening closely. I said that we didn't have many Catholics and we didn't have many Jews. I was just saying that. But don't bring Jews into it. So I'm just saying that we didn't know many Catholics and we didn't have many Jews. I was just saying that. But don't bring Jews into it.

So I'm just saying that we didn't know a lot about other religious experiences. Okay. And I began to feel it might be a test of my like, I was like, you know what, you need to be able to tell somebody when they got a big black spot on their forehead. You need to be able to say something.

And I got very close to saying something. It definitely looked like there was something on their hand and then they scratched the middle of their forehead. Smudged. I mean, it definitely had that kind of like, just a gentle, I'm sloughing off a mosquito. Yeah, and then we went to lunch and I saw another guy with it and I was like, well, what in the hell's going on here?

Right. Cause we are pattern recognition beings. And you're glad you didn't say anything to the first guy because now you have a chance to say something to the second guy. And this is before Google had really gotten going. So you couldn't be like, what does it mean when I see a black smudge in the middle

of somebody's forehead? Now I would know that was Ash Wednesday. But you know, I didn't know anything. I got a technical education at engineering school. It's the Ash part. It's the that was Ash Wednesday. But you know, I didn't know anything. I got a technical education at engineering school. It's the Ash part. It's the Ash. Of Wednesday. Yeah. So anyway, you don't mention that.

You escaped that. There are certain things that you do mention to people. But the spittle thing, you can't mention it. You just have to endure it. That would have been embarrassing if you got something on your forehead. Well, yeah, it's Ash Wednesday. Well, what the hell is that?

You know? Yeah. Well, I have follow-up questions. Google's not ready for them yet because of, you know, the decade that we're in. Ah. I just, I know what it feels like. If, but when you're getting that white stuff happening. Let's just.

You just need to drink. Let's just be done with it. I mean, there was drink right there. It's multiple drinks. Multiple drinks? I don't know. You know, start carrying a spray bottle and just spritz them.

I feel like I could feel it if it was happening. Don't put it on the wide, put it on the tight stream and just hit him right with it. Don't you feel like you could feel it? I feel like he, I feel like. I feel like he should have felt it. I feel like I could feel it. I'd be like, oh, my jaw was harder to open. Slightly harder to open.

My teeth were harder to part. Oh, something's restricted. My lips keep boinging back together. I think I would know. And then once it bounced off of the lip and into the mouth, I think I really would know. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Let's not talk about it anymore.

But it affected us. Why do we find it, why do I find it gross? What is it? Because you, it's not like a sign of disease. Because you can look at it and tell the consistency of it. But why does that matter? That's what it is. It's like, um. Robots wouldn't care about that.

It's a texture thing. Robots wouldn't have a problem with it. You know, it's. Why do we care? Why do I have a visceral reaction to it? Is it a sign of disease? Maybe it's a sign of rabies. It also gave me anxiety because it made me feel

like I was in calculus class again. Elaborate. Dr. Not-Good-Mentioned-His-Name, he had the, he had, it would just group on the sides. That was different. That side. Whiteness would just group on the sides of his mouth. Side spits worse.

And it's just, and it was. Once it gets there, it doesn't go away. It'd be foamy and it would, it actually, I think he sounded different because his mouth opening was permanently smaller because of these white foamy things on the edge. And it would go both sides. He wasn't on one side or he was,

it was equal opportunity spit guy. Yeah, it was just like... But once it gets on the side, when it's in the middle... White as snow, too. When it's in the middle, there's hope. That's why you kept watching it, because you wanted to see... It's gonna go away, it's gonna go... he's gonna eat it before long. It's like a comet. You wanna see the moment that it burns out, you know?

Don't look away, because... Why are we still talking about this? I don't know. Let's see if we can talk about it for the whole time. No! Let's take a question. Yes, I just say, can I play a voice now? Yes, please, thank you.

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Different audience? And so the real ones will know. Okay. The real ones will know. But we're also really beginning to increase the chances that the per... I don't think, you know, I don't think, I don't think. No, no, no, I don't think anybody's gonna find out. I don't think anybody's gonna find out.

We hadn't said who it was. No. It wasn't anybody anybody would know if we said it anyway. That's right, that's right. It's just a person, and I don't hold it against him. It just happened, we had to talk about it. Yeah, but it deeply impacted us. Enough to talk about it on somebody else's podcast, too. Oh, so do we just workshop something?

I'm sorry that we're workshopping something in front of you. Let's make it, when we go on the other podcast, and this is just for y'all who know about this story, let's make it like one of our relatives. Let's make up, I was meeting with my uncle. No. Yeah. You would tell your uncle. No, like an, I was meeting with my uncle. No. Yeah. You would tell your uncle. No, like an uncle that I just found out I've got.

That feels like a more interesting story though. Please move us forward. Hey y'all, I am flying to New Orleans tomorrow. Going there for Jazz Fest weekend. Yeah! I am not too good at flying. I get pretty anxious. But I have a little mantra that I tell myself anytime I'm flying. I'm usually like ret when I'm flying. I'm anxious in the airport getting prepped and even on

the plane I get pretty anxious especially when there's turbulence. So I have a mantra and when there's turbulence and I'm feeling a little bit off I tell myself what would Lincoln Charles Neal do in this moment and then I know he would be asleep, dead asleep, no care in the world because he just doesn't care. He just doesn't care about the turbulence or being on a plane or anything like that. So I channel my inner Lincoln Neil and it brings me peace. So I just wanted to let you all know that, let you all know that I'm connected with both of you in airports every single time. So I'll be thinking about you tomorrow and thanks so much, bye.

I hope it went well. You know, planes these days you never know. That seems to be, yeah, what's happening. I'm honored that you channel me. The thing that I've observed is that the closer you get to me in a travel situation, the less you're able to do that. Like the people that I travel with that I'm most close to,

not only you, Rhett, but also Christy. My vibes don't help you guys at all. We have different struggles though. I know, but my vibe doesn't help with your struggle getting on the plane or like getting there in time or not missing it but my vibe doesn't help with your struggle getting on the plane or like getting there in time or not missing it. My vibe doesn't help with Christy who's afraid of actually flying or something happening

and the flight is compelled to stop flying. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, she sees me sleeping and that doesn't really inspire her. Maybe I'll just wake up and say, hey, channel me, and then I'll go back to sleep. That'll help. And then when we're like, you're mad because I'm waiting too long to get my luggage into the car because you're ready to get on the road so that we can get there, I'm like, hey,

channel me. Yeah. Doesn't work. This is not gonna work. That's not gonna work. So I think the idea of this is helpful a lot more than the reality. If you traveled with me, it wouldn't help. This is something that needs to happen in your own mind,

which it sounds like it is happening. You know the other thing that's happening, not just plane issues in general with like planes crashing or whatever. That's happening it seems like. Still really unlikely that it'll happen to the plane that you're on, but whatever. It does happen.

But do you know the number of unruly passengers? Is that going up? Is skyrocketing. Or is it just the genre of TikTok that now people are catching on to? No, so it is that, but I specifically read an article. I think I started with a TikTok of, is it Senator?

What's his name? The guy who had the, Fetterman. Fetterman was on a plane and he wouldn't put his, you couldn't see his seatbelt or something and you're supposed to be able to see the seatbelt and he kind of made a scene of it and the plane was, I don't know what happened, the plane got delayed.

Yes, he was wearing a hoodie and shorts at the time. But not a seatbelt? But I think he did put the seatbelt on, but it was underneath his sweatshirt. And they were like, we have to see it or something? I don't know what happened, but it seemed- They're doing you a favor by making sure your seatbelt's on, I'm just saying. It seemed like it could have been easily resolved by him just being like,

what is it you want from me? Okay, I understand it. I'll do it so all of us can get to where we're going. I never understand people who are like, I am choosing to make a stand about this thing right now so that all these people are inconvenienced. I don't get it. Right. But the thing that's happening is that the number

of actual incidents that have been registered by flight attendants is going up and has been going up since like 2021. And it's actually an alarming number, like thousands. And you know, I haven't really experienced this and we fly a lot, but I think about this every time I get on a plane. Now, I am, like I said, once I'm past security and then I'm no longer, I can no longer do anything

to affect anything, then I'm not nervous. If my flight gets delayed and then I start making a decision about, well, do I need to get another flight? Do I need to make a phone call and then I start getting nervous again. When I have to engage, I get nervous, but when I'm just like, when somebody's flying the plane, I'm like, if we die, we die. So, but sometimes I think to myself.

But a lot of people aren't popping off on planes we've been on. No, I'm like. As they say. This is happening quite a bit. I always wonder is somebody gonna get sick on this plane? Is somebody gonna have a conniption? I sometimes, I wonder, is that going to happen?

Because I've never experienced an emergency. Is somebody gonna refuse to put their sweatshirt underneath their seatbelt? Only one time in the history of my flights have I ever heard, is there a doctor on board? One time. Oh, you heard that. One time. And did anyone answer?

I believe you said they did. I never saw where it was happening and who it was, and I think it was fine, we didn't turn around or anything. I think somebody was just a little bit flustered. That would have been a great opportunity for me to speak up and say, a doctor of sex. I could have said that at that point to get a laugh. I don't know if anybody would have laughed.

No one would have laughed. Now that I've said that out loud, I realize nobody would have laughed. But you know, you're priming yourself for an altercation because you're getting opinionated about the people who are kerfuffling. And that gets you close to being the one who calls them out on it. Well.

And you gotta be real careful about that. Well, one of these stories. Because I'm one of those people too. I get mad at people who are inconveniencing everybody because they're being wild and out, you know? It's like I kinda wanna speak up and tell them what for. But I just don't have the self-defense training. So I keep my mouth shut.

Well, that's specifically what happens. And plus I'm asleep. In one of these, yeah, you literally go to sleep before the plane takes off. I have a bandana over my mouth and my nose. I have a sleeping mask over my face and I have a hoodie over my head. Yeah, you pretty much are disengaged completely.

I can't nap, so. My seat belt's on top of everything so they don't wake me up. One of the things that happened in one of these stories was there was a guy pretty recently who got agitated and started banging on the window. You're not gonna do any damage to it, but he was flipping out.

Yeah. And other passengers ended up restraining him and tying him to his seat with something. And I often think about that. Like I try, I actually try to be. You think about how to tie people to seats? When I'm in a public space, I don't know. Again, I am not generally like an anxious person

about these types. And I wouldn't call this, this is, I'm anxious about a lot of things, but I'm health anxious a lot. Not anxious about these types of situations, but I do find myself, if I'm in a public space, thinking things like, okay, if somebody comes in here with a gun and starts shooting people. Oh, God.

I literally think things like that. If I'm at like a parade or a festival or something, because it happens so often now, I literally think like, who's with me? What am I going to do? Like, am I going to be in a position to something, because it happens so often now. I literally think, like, who's with me? What am I gonna do? Like, would I, you know, am I gonna be in a position to do anything about it? I think through, not that I ever come to any firm conclusions, but I... I think if you would come to a firm conclusion, it'd be a really healthy

exercise, especially because then you're like, all right, I have a plan now moving on, because that's Jason Bourne shit. I did tell Jessie, we went to the parade in our little area of town, and I was just like, anytime in the modern world where a large group of people gather outside where you didn't have to go through any sort of metal detector in order to get in,

I think this is a potential for a disaster. Somebody could run their car into a bunch of people, somebody could shoot, like this is the world that we live in. It is the world that we live in. I think we should go back to talking about the spittle on that guy's lips. And I told Jessie. This is more disturbing than that.

We set our chairs up and I told her, I said, hey, I don't expect anything to happen, but if anything starts going down, we like hear gunfire or something like that. Leave the chairs. Yeah. Don't worry about the chairs.

Don't worry about the chairs, and see this street right here? We're gonna run down this street, because I was like, this is, and then this is wide open lane that just goes out into this neighborhood. Just so we would be together, and she's not like running. And how did she react when you said that? She's like, why are you thinking about that? And I was like, because you gotta. If I.

Get on the plane. If I leaned over to Christy at a parade and said that. She'd be mad. I think she'd get aroused. Oh yeah, because she'd be like, you're actually thinking about my safety for once. This would be kinda hot for her. Be like, oh, you're speaking my language.

Oh, are you speaking worst case scenario again? Ooh, yeah, let's run down that alley. Yeah. But on the plane, one of the reasons I feel like I need to be ready on a plane is I think that people would look to me because I'm big. Yeah. I'm gonna be, I.

That's true. 99.9% of the time, I'm the tallest guy on the plane. Now that doesn't mean I'm dangerous, because I'm probably not. You're not. But you might think I am. Oh. And I think I'm probably more dangerous

than the average person. You know, like, if you just say- I don't think people are looking at you as dangerous. They're looking at you as like, is he a retired basketball player? But do you think if there was a machine right here, a 3D printer that could print biological things, only a matter of time.

It can be arranged. And I pressed a button and the average 47-year-old male across all of Earth would pop out. I think I could beat that guy up. I mean, I'm not saying it would be a quick fight. He would do damage, I would get hurt, but I think I would win. In a fight to the death, he would die.

Oh. What do you think? You think you could be the average 46-year-old man? Me? Yeah. Well, I think it would be dead even. So you are the average 46-year-old man. Yeah, I think I am. I mean, in the best way possible, right? I'm every man. Yeah, okay.

That's not what I meant. I like to think of myself as every man. So what I'm saying is... And we would both die at the same exact moment. Okay, all right, that's perfect. It'd be like a simultaneous, like, throat punch, crotch kick. Throat punch, crotch kick. Oh, so you're thinking throat punch. Throat punch, crotch kick. Crotch kick is really effective.

Yeah, I think we'd be doing that to each other. You gotta know that, you gotta know that. If you can get your hands or your foot on the balls, you have an upper hand, or a lower hand. Yeah, that's the lower hand. Throat punch, ball grab, same time. Whapam. Because, so just in people's collective consciousness,

they see me and they think, he might be able to help in an emergency. And so I kinda feel like I need to get trained. Yeah, I think you should. You know, I need something. I need to be able to do something. I mean, I've never been punched in the face. I've never punched in the face.

I've had two fights in my life, both three, three. One was mostly on the ground, mostly a grappling game. Yes. And then the other two, gut punches. One gut punch from me. But we always travel with Jenna. Jenna, I'm thinking, like, didn't we hire you because you have special certification

to keep us safer? Like. I can fight. You can... Well, first I meant like, I mean, if we were choking, it would be your job to save us. Yeah, I do know the Heimlich and all the things, although you're gonna have to know that if you are choking ever at any point,

like either one of you, you'll have to get on your knees because you're both too tall for me. So I, yeah, I need the upper leverage, so. Heads up. If we forget, just say, get on your knees. Yep, I'd have to tell you to get on your knees. Yeah, yeah. Get on your knees, I wanna watch you die.

I need the upper leverage. Beg. Beg for mercy. Oh, oh, okay. Beg for the timeline. You know, have you seen the suction thing, the suction choke thing that they advertise for every family should have on hand?

What, no. Is it like a reverse pump, you put it in the mouth? It sucks the thing out. They're like, everybody should, you should definitely have them if you have kids. But like you- Does it go in the mouth? No, it goes over the mouth and then you do, and it sucks it right out, man.

Oh, like a shop vac with a breathing thing. You know CPR too, right? Yes, I'm not certified anymore, but yeah. At one point you were. You had all the certification to be a babysitter, which is kind of, right? That's what I'm getting at here. It's like, we need you to be able to save a child

because we are the children. Yeah. Right. Is really all I'm saying. But you could also, I mean, do you feel like if we 3D printed the average woman that, I mean, I think I know the answer to this. Yeah. You would kill her.

You could kill her? Yeah. If you had to. Would I? If you had to. Don't worry. Morally, this is just a 3D printed person. It's not a real person. Oh, okay. They don't have a soul. Right.

So they're just organic matter. You can kill them, it's fine. I mean, probably an average man too, if I'm being honest. Oh, I'd like to see that. Okay, yeah. I can't probably an average man too, if I'm being honest. Oh, I'd like to see that. Okay, yeah. I can't wait to get that printer. So we can just print people out and kill them. For entertainment.

Yeah, the AIs won't have a problem with that at all. They just seem to be overlords. It's like, mom, what happened to daddy? He was killed by a 3D printed non-person. He wanted to see if he could kill the average 47-year-old man. And it killed it, son. I mean, that's the chance you take

when you play that game. Because you know how to punch. Yes. Because you've been trained in boxing. Yes. May I suggest the throat punch? Throat punch is a great move, yeah. But not with an open hand,

if you're making an open hand signal. That'll break your fingers, man. Like that. Yeah, punch him with a fist in the throat. I think you go like that and then at the last minute, bing! That's like the kung fu type, just the finger comes out at the end.

Well it could just be the head, you don't need a lot of pressure for a throat punch. Side of the hand too. If you're doing like a full on punch to the throat with someone, that could really be harm. You could kill them. Yeah, yeah, that could be really, really harmful to their whole system.

Whether they're 3D printed or not, you could kill them with that. The reason why I'm thinking about the throat punch is because I watched Companion, that movie that you told me to watch. I finally watched it. Oh yes, did you watch it with the family? I watched it with Christy.

I really enjoyed it, but there's a throat punch in that. Yep, I don't remember, yes. She punches him in the throat. Oh yeah, what a great movie. Out of nowhere. Didn't you love it? I would She punches him in the throat. Oh yeah. What a great movie. Out of nowhere. Didn't you love it? I would have enjoyed it in the theater because

Great theater movie. You start to forget how funny it is and if you just heard a couple people continuing to laugh, it will keep you in the right zone. Oh, it's funny, yeah, it's funny throughout. It's funny throughout but. Did your wife stay away? No.

But she was there for the beginning and she was there for the end. She's seen the beginning of so many movies. Yeah, and she usually sees the end. Because sometimes she'll wake back up. You can piece it together. And she will refuse to admit that she was ever asleep. It happened again last night. We were watching a show that only she wanted to watch.

Like, she had been out of town. She comes back in town like, I'm gonna only she wanted to watch. Like, she had been out of town. She comes back in town, I'm like, I'm gonna watch whatever you wanna watch. She was like, well, I'm watching this show about middle-aged marriages falling apart. I was like, oh, that sounds like fun. It's like Four Seasons or something. Oh, I watched it yesterday.

Steve Carell and Tina Fey and. I did as much of a binge as I could do. I watched four episodes of that asll and Tina Fey and... I did as much of a binge as I could do. I watched four episodes of that as if I was watching a movie. Don't recommend it. I would say that it is, first of all, I feel like I take offense with the fact

that they are calling it Four Seasons because they want you to watch it because White Lotus was popular. I just feel like that, even though it has nothing to do with the Four Seasons, because they want you to watch it because White Lotus was popular. I just feel like that, even though it has nothing to do with the Four Seasons. But I think that you see a group of people on the billboard. Famous people on vacation. On vacation, it says Four Seasons.

It's like, oh, Netflix has got their own White Lotus, and I just don't, I don't like that. Oh. I think that's why I watched it. So yeah, it did work. Because Four Seasons is a hotel. But it's not. But it's not where. it's not nearly as well made as White Lotus. But it's got a lot of, it has enough people in it that I like.

It just doesn't have enough laughs. I am compelled to continue watching it, but I did find myself, there was an inner battle of like, I want this to work, I want this to be a little bit better than it is. Yeah, Christy fell asleep in the middle of it, and then swore up and down that she never went to sleep. It was like, so you're snoring while awake?

Yeah, yeah, do you quiz her? Did you quiz her? I thought you said, do you quiz her? Wait, what? Quiz her, what's quiz her? I quiz her? Did you quiz her? I thought you said, do you quiz her? Wait, what? Quiz her, what's quiz her? I quiz her. I didn't quiz her, no. I knew she was asleep.

I didn't wanna, it's just not a hill I need to die on to prove to her that she wasn't there for a show that she only enjoyed, I don't know, I just. Did you find yourself looking at what Domingo was wearing and wishing that you could add it to your wardrobe? Domingo, yeah. I thought that you might enjoy some of his... The big cuffed pants and the... Well, like the rompers and the onesies.

The rompers. Yeah, he like had a... I only watched one episode. Oh, okay, all right. But I did notice Domingo has quite a fashion sense. He has a onesie at some point. Oh, wow, I didn't see that. Keep watching, see now you got a reason to watch.

Okay, now I'm gonna keep watching. Let's hear another one. Hey y'all, so I just heard the person who called in on the last episode about code switching, and so I've been born and raised in Florida my whole life, except for when I was in high school, I was brought to Michigan. And nobody there could understand how I was from Florida, but I had a little bit of an accent. They claim that Florida is just not a part of the South at all. And so that question got me thinking,

I'm so tired of people thinking that Florida is not a Southern state. I, not everybody from Florida is from the Keys. So I just wanted y'all's opinion. Do you think Florida is a part of the South? Because I consider it part of the South. It might not be the deep South, but I definitely consider myself a Southerner, so, all right. Thanks y'all. A little bit of clarification for you, Link.

Code switching was something that we talked about when Jessie was here. Okay. Southern code switching? If I remember correctly, it was someone who, when she went, she was from the South and she could go back into that and then she could go up north and come out of it.

And we discussed the merits of code switching or just always being yourself regardless of the environment. And I can tell in this voicemail that there was a little bit of back and forth there. It wasn't 100% Southern accent. It will come and go depending on where she was in this sentence.

So I think she was code switching within this voicemail. Maybe as a demonstration. As a demonstration only. Which is what the other woman who called in about code switching did in the phone call. Oh, I have to listen to that. Okay. But where in Florida is she from?

Because that's what matters. Yeah, let me just give you, I'm gonna give you a couple of unequivocal facts, okay? If you're from Tallahassee, Florida, you are a Southerner, okay? That is the South. 100%. If you are from Miami, Florida, you are not a Southerner.

Those are two completely different worlds. If you're from Orlando, you still don't count. No. You still don't count. No. Okay? But if you're in the panhandle, without a doubt, you're in the South. Without a doubt. Yeah. And I'm not familiar, I think if you're in the panhandle, without a doubt, you're in the South, without a doubt. And I'm not familiar, I think if you're in Jacksonville,

I think you're still in the South, but you're kinda like, you're like Metro South, you're like Charlotte South, you know what I mean? Yes. I mean, Jacksonville is the largest city in America by land area. What? Jacksonville, Florida has the largest area of city

of any place in the nation. And there's a military base there, right? Probably, I don't know. Now that that's the thing, it's just a little fact that's stuck in my brain. But based on how you're talking, you seem like you're from the South. Yeah.

But you might have to always make this clarification for people because they need it. Yeah, you can't be from down there in the peninsula. You just gotta draw a line across. If that whole thumb, that limp thumb, if that thing was lopped off, everything that would stay is the south. Basically, Southerners can't abide by having a coast

in two different directions. Yeah. We get confused when we can go two different ways to get to the beach. We need one way to the beach. Right. And so I think that's probably geographically where the line is, is that when you get to a place

where all of a sudden you've got equidistant beach and you're not in Kansas, equidistant beach and you don't have to leave the state lines, you're not in the South anymore. I think that's the rule, and I don't know why it works that way, but I'm confident in it. It's because there's, I mean, Miami has its own culture.

Orlando has its own amusement culture, and then you've got all of this Tampa stuff, you got all of this retirement culture, transplants. Yeah. You got all these people down there. And then, yeah, all the Southerners are up there. They're just creeping in from Georgia and Alabama. It's just the part, the Southern

is just the Georgia, Alabama extension South. But then you go down to that limp thumb? And it's just a bunch of people seeking thrills and havens. And if it's any consolation to you, if you look at those maps of the future sea level rise that we can expect and what parts of Florida are gonna go away, it's all the part that's not the south. The only parts of Florida that will be left

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Thank you so much, love you guys. Can humans do anything without expecting anything in return? First of all, I'm jealous. I would have loved to have studied this in college, and then I would actually know something about it, and not just seem like I kind of sometimes. You might be burned out on it though, if you did that. Maybe I wouldn't appreciate it.

Maybe thinking that it would be cool to know is half the battle. First of all, you know, this actually speaks to something that is a common misconception about evolutionary theory. And it is an argument that I once made when I thought that evolution didn't happen. And that is this idea that you can't explain altruism, you can't explain love, you can't explain

essentially human cooperation and service towards other people if the principle is natural selection and survival of the fittest. But that is a misunderstanding and misrepresentation of what it actually means, right? Because- Well, I now wanna add one more thing to the list. Self-sacrifice, that's like the ultimate.

Right, but we observe self-sacrifice in many different places in the animal kingdom. Many different places in the animal kingdom. I mean, look into a beehive. I mean, it's like-ehive. I mean, you know, it's like all they- I put on protective gear first. They will do anything for the queen, right? And is that because they are motivated

by love for the queen? It's like, well, no, it's a cooperative. If things don't evolve simply, you know, the genetic changes happen on the individual level, that's where the raw material takes place. simply the genetic changes happen on the individual level. That's where the raw material takes place. But the change is observed over the population. And cooperative species are more, the individuals who can cooperate within their species

are more likely to survive and pass on their genes. So you can actually explain altruism and almost every aspect of human morality from an evolutionary standpoint. I'm not saying that is exactly what happened. I'm just saying you can explain it. It's not lacking. Yeah, I mean, if you talk about like colonies of ants

as well as bees. You're talking about willing self-sacrifice to elevate the, or to keep the species, to keep the colony going, right? But I am assuming that there's something, there's an, they're chasing some sort of instinctive reward. Oh, of course, on an ant level, yeah. That on a human level,

even if you're doing something self-sacrificing, I think you could always find at least a sliver of something that's self-motivated. Like I am doing this to get a reward. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I'm. But does that not make it,

does that mean that it's not altruistic? Because I don't think. Well, if her definition is, like you receive no benefit from it, it's only for the benefit of others. But you do, but what you're saying and I agree with is you do receive a benefit because anything that you choose to do on your own accord,

you do that because you have decided that that is the thing that you should do. Meaning, this is, I don't know enough about philosophy in order to put this in a respectable way, but what I'm getting at is every choice that you make, you are actually making it for your own self-interest because you yourself are interested in making that choice, even if it is a choice to help someone.

You made a decision to do it, and that may be completely to another person's benefit and completely to your own detriment in that moment, right, your physical well-being or whatever. But what I'm saying is that, biologically speaking, there's a way your brain chemistry is behaving at that point. You are making that choice because you feel that that choice is justified for you to make.

And I'm also adding that that actually makes sense in light of the way that our brains work and the way that our motivations work and how they evolved. So no, there's no true altruism by the strictest definition. If you wanna get really technical about it. Cause even people who are like. Cause even if you're running into a burning building

to save somebody, let's say if you're a fireman, don't get too excited, Jenna. Yeah, right. I mean it's like. It's not here. I think that they're geared towards this. There's some, there's a reward for taking heroic action, you know, that they're probably experiencing as they do it, like the rush of adrenaline and doing the right thing

and helping people is a reward that makes them feel good. Makes them feel good. And that's great. That's how we want our species to work. Doing something just out of obligation, like I should do this, I'm being made to do this, well that's not altruism either, you know. You take somebody like, That's being forced.

You know, you take somebody who is like a radical servant, like Mother Teresa, And should we applaud and can we applaud and commend her, of course we can, her behavior to do that. But also, I've heard that if you read her journals, she explores her own selfishness. Right, she's probably, yeah, because she was probably honest with herself.

But what I'm getting at is that woman couldn't live her life any other way. She would be miserable if she wasn't serving. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because you're, and so I just think that, but that's good, that's something to be celebrated. That actually shows that, you know,

there's hope for our species because we actually get a physiological reward when we cooperate and when we help one another. The reason that you feel good and there's certain chemicals that are released in your brain when you do an act of service, that's a great thing. And I'm not saying this is like means there's no God, I'm saying if there is a God,

then that God designed it to work in that way so that you would actually feel a physiological benefit through service. And that makes sense, right, from that perspective. But it also makes sense if there isn't a God, and this is simply a material process, and the idea is for this species to continue to propagate itself, that if every single individual in that species was only after their own interest, then they would all die, and they wouldn't be able to pass their genes forward, right?

It makes sense from both perspectives, is ultimately what I'm getting at. I'm curious what the Buddhist perspective on altruism would be. Are you familiar? I'm not. Like, you know, the philosophy of dying to yourself, you know, denying yourself, embracing suffering. Like, what's the impact with, like, your deepest motivations to do the right thing? Yeah, I don't know.

And how it impacts what you want. I know that Buddhism is a non-dualistic tradition. So connectedness to all things. I mean, and obviously there's a radical application of a non-dual perspective that gets to a place where you won't even step on an ant because it's like you're stepping on yourself. You're stepping on this creation that you are just another part of.

Like you're just a point in the universe that's popping up somewhere. So I think, so I would say that it ultimately properly interpreted and applied will definitely lead to service. And you can actually see the purpose of your existence. And this is what you hear, what you talk to most Tibetan monks. It's like, what's the, I think the Dalai Lama has said this.

Like, what's the meaning, what's the purpose of life? Service. Sometimes we raise more questions than we answer, and that's okay. Hi, Rhett and Link. My name's Ashley. I'm a big fan of the show. I was calling because I need some advice. I love my mother very much, but she is not a punctual person. She usually is between 20 minutes to 2 hours

late to everything. And I don't really know how to deal with it. It's something she's been doing for a very long time, so I'm kind of used to it. However, I'm getting married soon, and I cannot have her late to these things. So any advice for someone who's always late would be really appreciated. Love you guys, thanks. Send her a different invitation.

Her times are different. Mm-hmm, and it's hand delivered by the person who's gonna pick her up and drive her to the place. Mom, you get a personal driver, and it starts at this time, which is a lie, because it's two hours earlier. Other than that, never travel with the woman. Always meet her places and get her to say, I'm okay if you start without me.

Yeah. Now the only person I'm willing to wait forever for is Alicia Keys. Okay. At the occasion of meeting Alicia Keys many years ago, who is, as far as I can tell, one of the most pristine humans to walk this planet in every aspect. Yeah.

But she made me mad. Because I showed up at this thing, now I was just accompanying, this is back when Britton, my cousin, was like recording with her and this was my occasion. Because of the voice stuff. Right, it was after the voice stuff, but she was like hey, I want I want you to record With the band I'm gonna set you up with everything and so it was a really cool recording studio

she was like super generous, but she wasn't there and then After a day of like me hanging out and kind of being a fly on the wall having a good time They were like, all right, she's coming for dinner. They had someone who was making dinner there. And then we were all starving. And then it was like 15 minutes turned into an hour, turned into two hours of waiting for Alicia Keys to show up.

And it was tough. I got real hangry. But let me tell you, all that was- No apps? No apps, no snacks. It was like, it was just, wasn't really, it wasn't, it was barely water. It was a, we were, it was a fancy place,

but I don't know what was up with those snacks. Right, okay. And so yeah, I was at the end of my rope, and I was pretty negative on Alicia Keys until she showed up. And then let me tell you, the moment Alicia Keys shows up, everything changes. It was a wonderful, wonderful world to live in

and be a part of, hers. And the meal was fine. Oh. It was a bit cold. of hers and the meal was fine. Oh. It was a bit cold. Yeah, it was because it was ready. Why am I talking about this? Because she's the only person I'm willing to wait hours for to show up for something.

Lauren Hill tries that with all of her shows. That's why she has a reputation. If you ever wanna see her live. You just show up two hours late and she'll show up at the same time. I would not do that for Lauryn Hill, but I would do that again for Alicia Keys. I'm waiting for that phone call.

Hey, you wanna come hang out with me four hours after you think I'm gonna be there? I'll be like, yes, yes, yes. Assuming that this person's mother is not Alicia Keys. I mean, I don't know. Wouldn't that be a thing? Could be. So there would be an exception in that case.

I think her kids are younger. But yeah, it can be a bit frustrating, especially. Just don't travel with her. Don't go anywhere with her. Always take separate cars. To me, it depends. And go travel with her. Don't go anywhere with her. Always take separate cars. To me, it depends. And go on without her. It depends on the circumstance, right?

Cause lateness can be, I mean, we were late this morning, right? But we're also like, well, I mean, if we get in at a certain time and we can still do the thing that we need to do, it's like, okay, it's not just, but like, if it's like a dinner, a meeting, I tend to never be late for that kind of thing.

Yeah, I don't like to be late. That puts people off. That's like Tom Hanks' number one advice to people in the business is, never be late, always be early. He's always early. He's never the problem. That's what he said.

That's his big actorly advice. Because it can set things off. It's the chain reaction that then creates. Yeah, just be there. But some people it's really hard to do, so you gotta hold their hand, and you gotta lie to them a little bit. So. Yeah, I mean, I tell...

Shepard call times for the mom at the wedding. Look, I tell Shepard, if we have to leave somewhere, I give him a fake time. But he, you know, he figures it out. That's the problem. But I think you can unleash this strategy for an event like the wedding. And you just can't do it too often. Yeah. Mom, I'm giving you a Secret Service agent escort.

You know, make her seem special about it. I don't know, concierge. You get your own mother of the bride concierge. I mean, now we're talking about spending a fair amount of money. I think just give her, I think the lowest amount of money. It could be a cousin.

Is to fake the time. With a mask. On one invitation. Put like a Halloween mask on a cousin, concierge mask. Or say, can you be, I need you to be there at this time because the family is going to do this at that time and that's not true. Like, need you to be there at this time because the family is going to do this at that time and that's not true. Like, need you to be there at 5 p.m.

because we're doing pictures at 5 p.m. And then really I just need you to be there at 6.30 so that you can be ready for the ceremony at seven or whatever the timing is. Yeah, good luck with that. Hi, Rhett and Link. My name is Charlie Fisher and I am from Portland, Oregon. I kind of got, I won't say epiphany, a situation.

So I go to a plan of fitness every week, multiple times a week. And I always start with cardio. Just the thing I hate the most, I do it first. And I usually go to the treadmill area. There's about 30 treadmills in a whole row. And I've been going to this one. Every single time I go, I pick the same one. And 9 times out of 10, there's someone at that singular treadmill,

and there's about 20 more open treadmills. So I just need some help. I want to know more about this treadmill. Like, why is this treadmill so special? It's pheromones on it. And it seems like it's special to other people because. It must have a good view of the TV or something. Or it's the last one against the wall so you kind of feel like you're, if you only look one way, you feel like you're alone.

But also. Running alone. In my experience, public gyms like this, there are a bunch of treadmills that don't work and you start and you learn the ones that don't work well and you know the ones that do work. So it can be a combination of that. Yeah, I will tell you, I have zero,

and I mean literally zero experience, I've never been on a public treadmill. You've never been. I don't think I've ever. You've never had a gym membership to anything? I've had a gym membership, but I haven't gotten on a treadmill. Well, here's one thing, Charlie. Don't do your cardio first.

Oh. I mean, I'm just saying that. What? You gotta do the weights first? You should do your, because what happens when you do your cardio first is that you actually exhaust yourself a little bit, and then you actually can't do the movements

in your strength training to the degree that you could otherwise do, and that causes, you don't end up working your muscles as hard, you don't get your progressive overload in and all that. What is all that? So start with your... Yeah, but doesn't that then compromise your cardio performance?

You want your cardio performance compromised because that's the point of cardio. You're not trying, you're not... I think the point is just self-flagellation. You're not competing against someone on the treadmill, right, but when you're doing weight training, you are competing against your past self in order to outdo your past self,

and that's how you cause muscle growth to happen. So you're saying that like, if I'm tired or- That's totally fine. That's good. If you're a little bit exhausted and have your heart rate up out of your strength training, taking that into cardio, first of all, you probably don't have to do as much cardio,

but second of all, yeah, it's just about what zone are you working in? Just get up to that zone. So that's your first problem, is you're starting with cardio. You don't have to take Rhett's advice for the reason that he's given it, but there is a good side effect of his advice.

good side effect of his advice. And that is now you've increased your ability to choose when to go on a treadmill. Right, because what you could do. You can still do it first if it's open, but if it's not, then you can say, oh, it's even better that I wait, and then you start lifting weights or doing whatever other thing you're gonna do.

You're doing like a pushup or a situp, and you're keeping your eye for it to open up. Matter of fact, you can be doing your weights and stuff right behind the person on your treadmill. That's probably a bad idea. Just right there behind them, point blank range. So if they hippity skippity slipped and fell, they'd run right off the back of the thing into you.

And now you gotta leave your weights in that part of the gym. And nobody wants that. Unless you're doing a farmer's carry. But you're ready to quit working out in order to do your cardio. At any moment that thing frees up. Because if that's what you're really after, then everything else serves that goal.

I think you just need to learn how to attach yourself to a different treadmill. I mean, this is not a person, you know? It's not like you're cheating on the other treadmills. Just, you know? As somebody who thinks similarly to him, like creature of habit, I don't know what's going on in my brain,

but like I get attached to things the way that I like them, I don't know what's going on in my brain, but like, I get attached to things the way that I like them. I don't know if you knew that about me. And though I've never been on a treadmill in a public place, I could see that this would happen very quickly to me. The moment I went in there, I'd be like, that's the one. That's mine.

So I would be totally there with you. But I think it's good to go elsewhere. To fight that instinct. To fight that instinct a little bit and to go to another treadmill. And then you can say, I'm appreciating all the things about the treadmill that I'm not on right now and I can be so excited when it does open up.

Now, if this is actually- Become for the treat. If this is really a different treadmill with different features, that's hard. But it doesn't seem, that was not explained. From the context of your question, it seems like we've got a bunch of similar treadmills. If not exactly the same. I mean, you could put a sign on it,

but I don't think it should be like a reservation sign. I think it should be like an out of order sign. And then I think you've gotta come in to the gym every time in a treadmill repairman suit. Yeah. Now it can be breathable, and you should be able to work out at it, but this is how you're gonna have to come to the gym

every day now. Well, this is actually- As a treadmill repairman. This is a thing. gym every day now, as a treadmill repairman. This is a thing. This is a thing, not specifically treadmill repairmen, people coming in, but it is a thing now, and I just wish that these things did not pop up in my social media feeds, but they do. What is the thing?

And that is people, I don't know if it's one guy or multiple people doing the same thing, dressing up like a janitor. What? At the gym. Taking my advice before I gave it? They dress up like a janitor and it's for their videos. So they can, there's like, there's one guy, I think he has like a really heavy broom

that he's like sweeping with and he's like, here, hold this and like a big buff dude holds it and it's really heavy or he sees like a guy like squatting or something and he's like can I can I get in on that and he goes in there and he's like actually like a really strong guy and so then he starts doing it or whatever I don't know why hidden camera gym videos I don't want to encourage this behavior because I have to imagine, first of all. I mean, have you ever been to a gym

with an influencer there filming themselves? Thank God. I got out of the going to the public gym thing. During the pandemic. During the pandemic and I just work out in my garage and yes, I don't have everything that is at the gym. But here in LA, especially if you're going to like Equinox or something, I don't have everything that is at the gym, but I don't know. Because here in LA, especially if you're going to like Equinox or something, I bet you're seeing,

because you would see Peck Dancer. Terry Crews. Terry Crews was at my gym sometimes. I call him Peck Dancer, because we're friends. But, so no one was doing, no one. They will sit down the phone. In 2019, no one was doing that. And now they're. No one was like, here's. They will sit down the phone. In 2019, no one was doing that. And now they're. No one was like,

here's my phone, here's my camera, I'm bringing it in here. And now, only thing you see online related to fitness is, oh, well somebody's filming themselves and people are getting mad about people walking in front of their camera. Well, this is not a freaking film studio, this is a gym.

If you wanna really do that, why don't you just get your own setup at your house? Oh. You know? So anyway, I don't wanna contribute to that, so I don't think they should dress up like that. I assume there's some gyms that don't allow filming. Oh, I'm sure.

You know? Some gyms don't allow certain genders. Is that a thing? Isn't there, yeah. There's women only gyms. Like orange theory is a, isn't that like a- No, orange theory is everybody. I think you have to be orange to go there.

It's racist against non-orange people. Is that a safe joke to make because no one's orange? Well, there is someone who's racist. Against non-orange people. Is that a safe joke to make because no one's orange? Well, there is someone who's orange. There is one person who's orange. Famously orange. Are you still not getting it? Oh yeah. You're talking about Trump.

Yeah, I am. I don't think he goes to the gym. I don't think he does either. Just based on some observations. Golfs. Yeah. Yeah, if I was running a gym, I don't know. I guess you don't wanna,

the reason you don't wanna shut that down is because you want those people, as insufferable as they might be, to come to your gym because amongst them are the people who are the most influential in the space that you're actually serving. So those people who are working out are watching these people work out. Oh, this is my gym, I know that guy.

So I think that there's probably a little bit of a give and take there. Sometimes they would come to the gym just to watch them work out I'm like, what's that guy? So I think that there's probably a little bit of a give and take there. Sometimes they would come to the gym just to watch him work out, and then they'll post a video of somebody, like, ogling them at the gym. But didn't you invite that?

So now you're sitting there making people look... like, look at what this guy did when I was at the gym. He was looking at me. Well, isn't that the point? Aren't we all looking at you? Yeah. You can't have it both ways, can you? So I think our advice is, my advice is do your cardio second,

but also use a different treadmill. Just to appreciate those moments when you get the right treadmill. Right. And it'll be a special treat. This is an analogy for life in general. You're not always on the same treadmill in life. Sometimes you've gotta be on a different treadmill.

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Awesome, man. I love you guys. Hope you guys keep doing a good job, man. Keep it up.