Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Our Thoughts on Jealousy & Attraction | Ear Biscuits Ep. 491

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

We are so totally locked in. In this episode, Rhett & Link talk about why brunch has the best sense of community, whether or not Rhett should golf in a more professional sense, and if either one would be an avid contestant for Dancing with the Stars. Plus, how managing attraction to others plays a role in relationships, with a surprise call from Jessie! Leave us a voicemail at 1-888-EARPOD-1 for a chance to be featured on the show! Start saving in 2 minutes by setting up an account at https://www.chime.com/ear To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Link. And I'm Red. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we are answering some of your questions, and we are reminding you like we're going to be doing over the next couple of months that... The star is fading.

We are taking an indefinite hiatus from your... Ear biscuits starting in January, and so there's only a couple more months worth, I'd say eight episodes, including this one. Oh my gosh. Left of ear biscuits. And we're all coping with it, y'all. We're getting the voicemails, and I'm still feeling good

about the decision for us personally. Well, you sound like you're trying to, like... I don't want to rub it in. You're trying to like, get yourself, uh... It's not like that was for you. No, I'm just saying, we're getting voicemails and people are sad and I'm like, well, okay, we're not changing our mind. Matter of fact, I'm phoning this in entirely. Oh, good.

Good. So what's going to be different? What? I like the fact that that type of joke is like, it would kill at like a breakfast, like gathering amongst. retired men who are reading the newspaper what I remember that whenever I would stay with my papa some days and he would he would be working but I wouldn't I guess it would be if I stayed there during the summer some mornings he would take me to go get breakfast with his buddies and he would be in his he'd be in his police uniform ready to work ready to work

and we would go in there and we'd sit down in the the diner in Lillington and it would would be him and there'd be like a county commissioner might be there there might be a judge there was a judge there or maybe a lawyer there was definitely suits there but then there was also some farmers coming in and out and i just thought it was really cool that like you'd have this like guy in overalls and a hat like you're wearing a day and then a dude in a in a suit going to do some lawyering and then the police officer it was very mayberry right yeah and And some of the people would be, the whole restaurant, it would be different tables, but the conversation was kind of open across tables. What place do you eat breakfast?

I remember where it was, but I don't remember what it was called, and it hasn't been there for many, many years. It was on the outskirts of town kind of towards going back towards Bowies Creek. But anyway, there'd be people reading the newspaper. I remember that. And then somebody would make a joke and it would be a little louder, and then other tables would be included in the conversation. And I didn't like eggs. Okay.

I remember that about it, too. Oh, okay, I thought maybe it was a good joke mirror. What else do you want me to say? I mean, I'm just telling you the things I remember about it. It was a splendid little... There was something about being in community where, like, oh, I'm going to this place. Like, you think about it today.

I go there once, twice a week, and I know I'm going to see people. Like, if we go to breakfast, I don't see nobody I know. But you know what? We did. We did. Well, we went to brunch in Los Felas. Are you trying to say this the same thing?

No, I'm just saying that the closest, this is going to sound so Hollywood. But the closest that we get to this is we went to breakfast in Los Felis the other day, which if you don't know, Los Felis is like the neighborhood. It's where we live right when we got here before we knew anything about L.A. And then we realized that trying to have a house with a yard there was something we couldn't afford. Haven't stayed in a cooler place since. Yeah. But we went over there to do some work. To, well, I'm talking about the restaurant.

All time. All time. All time's good. They know how to do their eggs. We had a, but you don't like eggs, so you don't really care. I like eggs now. But we're sitting there, getting ready to go in, and the way that you order there is you order at the front

and then you sit down. It's kind of an interesting system. But we're waiting, and so we're out there on the curb, on the sidewalk. And we see one Ben Schwartz. sitting out there in front of the restaurant. Sonic the Hedgehog, just sitting out there waiting... Come on now.

By himself. You can do better than that. Jean-Ralphio. Okay, yes. Yeah, because... Yeah, okay, let's be real. Because you can't tell he's Sonic, other than his voice, I guess. So, he's just sitting out there, you know, friend of the show.

He's been on, like, five different mythical things over the years. Basically, everything that we do, we've put him on it. And, um, because I were, I remember he came on GMM for the first time and it was back when we could sing the titles of the, it's time for, and then we did a title with him sitting there in the middle. And it was a send up of hollow notes kiss on my list. And you sang it and you like fully committed to it right there beside him. And I could just see, you know, this is, this is like, 10 minutes after we first met him. And I could tell that you were, that you committed to it, and he immediately, like, lit up. And he was like, okay, I know where I'm at now. And because that's totally his, he lives in a world of comedic commitment.

He makes a, he had a stage show that was 100% improvised. Yes. And he invited us to it. We didn't go, which was a mistake. But then he came back. and then he was on Mythical Kitchen. He was on last meals. I think he was on first meals as well.

The reason I'm not paying, I am paying attention to you. I'm trying to find the Instagram of those guys that we met because I want. Oh, yeah, because we met. Well, we were about to meet, we were about to say hello to Ben and after we ordered, I think. And then two other guys came up to us, which we, we were. you immediately recognize them. Rhett's trying to remember what their names are. Did he message you on Instagram?

I don't think so. Have you seen these guys on TikTok and they're the most wholesome buddies in the woods, like hiking? And they say things to each other like, hey buddy, look at that rock. Isn't that a beautiful rock? It's called We Love You, those We Love You guys.

It's called We Love You. In fact, they're like the sweetest, it's like the Swedish friendship. I'm going to follow them back right now. Not Swedish, but sweetest. I'm going to follow them back right now, and then he did message me. It's just, you know, I don't tell these messages. So what are their names? You need to follow, if you like hiking and friendship and just good vibes and a relief from the stress of life,

follow we love you on wherever you can follow them because they're just, it just makes you a little bit happy. These two friends are unabashedly friends in the woods together. That's how I would describe it. They're the ones that go like, hey man, hey man. Yeah, and we met them in person, and they came up to us, and they were like, hey man, hey man, and we're like, yeah, we know you. They said they were huge fans.

They were talking about Wonderhole, which always means a lot. When a fan comes up and talks about Wonderhole, or it feels like they got to say something about Wonderhole? That's real deal right there. That's it. That's it for us. And so we talked to them for a while, and they were like, we want to do a best friend's off with you guys. And then we got a picture, and then they left.

They walked away as we were looking at the menu. I look up from the menu, and they're talking to Ben Schwartz because they saw and recognized him. And then Ben saw us. Yeah. And so then he came over. and talked to us, but they were still there. So then he got another picture.

So then all five of us were talking, and we took a picture of all of us. Yeah, so instead of newspapers and crispy bacon, it was selfies and, I don't know, berets. No one was wearing a beret, but you could get away with it there. We could have all been wearing berets, and no one would have said anything. And then we went inside, and Casey Affleck was eating in there.

We don't know him, but he was a member of the community. He's a member of the... I recognized him. I didn't see him. He was, was he reading the paper? And then there was a couple other people who were coming in and they were like, oh, it's you guys. You know, there's a... It's you guys.

That's a level of recognition. Anyway, that's our version of Lillington Breakfast. You know, it's just a little bit... It's just a little bit different, but it's essentially the same. Isn't that nice? Maybe we should do that more often. There's a couple of places around where we live, where I think that could happen.

Having been in LA for now 14 years, I will say the number of times that Jesse and I are just out where we run into somebody we know, like the frequency has gone up quite a bit. Like I actually, it begins to feel a little bit more like home. Like when you're back home and you go around, oh, I see you and you. Yeah.

That is happening more and more. That's nice, isn't it? Carry a paper. Like when you go to a party and you're, it's a party that isn't, amongst close friends, but you have this, this is important for me

because I like to talk to people that I know, not people that I don't know. And so... And you know I love to talk to people I don't know because the stakes are low. There's some stories over there. Burn the bridge while it's building, you know? Low stakes.

Go ahead. But I like knowing that I might run into somebody I know. And then that's my... You do. That then all of a sudden, that was a way to talk to other people that you don't know in the context of someone that you do know. I understand in a party, but if you go back to brunch, do you, Rhett, really want to see people that you know? Do you really want to have small talk in like a brunchmosphere? Yeah, okay.

Good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What about, like, farmers market sphere? I mean, I have always been happy. I mean, maybe there's some people I don't want to run into. I think it's the most low-hanging fruit of a place to be able to have small talk is at brunch. Because brunch is by definition just anything goes. I'm not in a rush.

You had to be real hard in brunch. Brunch. I never heard anybody roll a bee. Do it again? Brunch. It's like a new letter My lips are, um You made a new B

I got an injection Have you heard the new B, Link saying it Brunch Brunch Brunch Brunch Brunch Brunch

I love that brunch It bounces It feels good Yeah But you can't do it on bounce You can't Brunch It's got to be a BRR

Brunch Brunch Brunch Brunch You like brunch I like that That's good I'm glad you came up With a new letter

Well about Rachadaisical I don't want No One at a time, one at a time. I can't learn two vocabulary words at a time, I need one. Brunch.

Brunch is the best place for small talk with people that are going by. I like sitting down at brunch with somebody and it's so laid back, you don't even have to talk to that person. You can just wait for someone else to come up to talk to you. You're saying while you're at brunch with someone? Yeah.

I went to brunch, brunch last Saturday. and this morning I made another brunch appointment. It's a different. You know a good place you should go for brunch is, boy, I'm not gonna remember the name of it. You know how when you go down to Frogtown and there is... Yeah, I'll tell you where I'm going Saturday. There is the river, there's a Los Angeles river,

and then there is a bike slash walking path. Yeah. And as you're on that waterfront there in Frogtown, they've really cleaned it up nice, and there's all kinds of exits along there that you can just walk to. And there's one place which is that the bike shop slash breakfast spot,

you know about that place. It's a bike shop and a breakfast spot and it's very popular. Spoke? Spoke. Spoke is great, but that's not what I'm talking about. There's spoke, and if I'm in the river looking at Spoke, spoke, to the right of that.

To the right. There's another restaurant. I'm going to figure it out. And it's very good. Oh. and, boy, I wish I knew the name of it. Lingua franca? Yes, Lingua franca.

So French tongue? I think so. That's a good little restaurant. Maybe it's... It's a great place for brunch, and it's a little bit nicer. If you go to spoke, you're like, everybody's like... Spandex. Sweaty and biking.

But this is like, hey, we're just here to eat. So you and Jesse walked down the bike path? We did, and we walked all the way down. I actually went into every single little path that you could go to because there's people put these little signs of- Like a dog sniffing. People put these little signs up like trinkets and gifts and thrift and vintage. And so it's all the hipster stuff that people are into, like coffee and vintage clothes and stuff like that.

And we went down every path and I actually, I got a T-shirt that says Frogtown on it. I just had a great idea for something I'd like to sell there. You can get in on it because I know you're going to love this idea. Okay. This is the next thing. Oh, my God, I'm getting excited, dude. This is... Okay.

This is perfect for one of these little sounds off... Don't build it up. Don't build it up too much. Here, listen to me. Well, you're still on the microphone. Listen to this. Come in close. Gourmet.

Bespoke. Graveys. Did you say... Gravees? Gravees. It's the next thing, dude. Jars of different gravies. Not broths.

Okay. Graves. Tell me more. I'm talking like gravies for all occasions. Lavender gravy. I knew you were going to say lavender. I knew it was going to come to lavender gravy. I shouldn't have started there.

It's gonna be horrible, man. It's more like... That's horrible. Chicken fried steak gravy, just right there. And it's like, good for dipping. You don't make chicken fried steak with it. You do something else with it. You dip stuff in it.

So the thing that you're gonna have... The challenge in this is going to be making jarred gravy good. Because the thing that makes gravy good usually is the fact that it's fresh. And a lot of times if you get that gravy from the grocery store that's canned... What is this? Shark tank? And you warm it up. I'm just saying that it's, it's lacking.

So I think this is going to be a, this isn't going to be selling it, this is going to be a restaurant that's got multiple gravies. Gravy Town, probably is what we're going to call it. Gravy? So it's got a buffet of, instead of like a salsa bar. Or let's get gravy. Getting gravy. I think you just call it gravy.

But it's a gravy bar instead of a salsa bar. There should be a restaurant called gravy, first of all. You order something and then you go over to the gravy bar and you get the different gravies. Okay, all right. Thin gravy, thick gravy. Black gravy, black gravy. Melassist gravy?

Yeah, white gravy, black gravy, green gravy. Yes, Verde gravy. Verdee gravy. I'm sure. Look, it sells itself. If you're out, I'll find someone else. You've got to have a proof of concept, though. Gravy is already a proof of concept.

But different types of gravy. There's, I mean, we've been... I'm sure you can sell it in a jar. I'm sure. Okay, I'm just saying, I'm just presenting the... Shake vigorously. I'm just trying to keep your feet on the ground here. Well, not shake vigorous.

I think it's going to... The liquid ones you shake vigorously, but the others, you just... You invert delicately. There's sausage in there. Okay. Or... Bison. They're going to want that.

But you got to... that heat gravy up. I will sell a special lid that is USB powered, USB charged, and it heats the gravy as it pours out of the jar, and you can take it on a plane. Gravy on a plane. That's gonna be a hard sell.

Come on, dude. Okay, I'm just saying, there's some engineering, the emotion was here and look at what you're doing with it. Yeah, but here's the thing about gravy. Gravy has a lot of fat in it, and that's why, If you let real good gravy sit out, it congeals, right? You have to heat it up.

So what they do with the gravy that they put in the jars is they add, like, hydrogenized, you know, type things to keep... I'm just saying this is an engineering problem that I don't know if I'm prepared to address. Okay. All right. All right. Well, I'm not opening a restaurant. Yeah, that would be a mistake. But a gravy bar. I did have a great thing. Gravy in mescal?

If you go to lingua fresca, lingua franca. Franco. I almost just got a regular latte, but then I got kind of talked into a molasses foam latte because it was like I was like, this is our specialty, and it was an espresso with some milk, and then on top,

it was espresso infused molasses. No, molasses infused whipped cream. I don't know. Yeah, that's what it was. That sounds okay. It was incredible. And I drank it so fast. Why'd you drink it so fast?

Because it was so little. Because it was so little. I couldn't help it. Did you almost get hit by bikers? No, but my wife did. Of course she did. Bub and Grandmaws in Igorok, you ever been there? No.

I'm going there for brunch this weekend. I thought you're going to say they got multiple gravies. Bub and Grandma sounds like the type of place that would have a gravy bar. I'm going to talk to them about it. I'll have a little collab. If they have good gravy, I'll be like, listen, I'm going to come in. I'm gonna work with you on this.

But what are you going to do, but I just come up with the names for the gravy? I'm DJing. Okay. DJ gravy. Nope. I'll be middle-aged gravy. I like that.

Middle-aged gravy. That's a reference to some of it. To young gravy. Okay. If you have to explain it, it's not funny anymore. Banking doesn't have to be complicated or full of hidden features. Chime offers a simple, modern way to manage your money and make every dollar count.

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Hey, guys. This is Kevin from Ponavidre Beach, Florida. I'm actually a data scientist, and I work at the PGA Tour, and I wanted to follow up on Rett's golf story. The fourth hole at Riviera is super difficult. PGA Tour last had an event there in 2024, and the odds of a pro getting it onto the green in one shot.

or about 1 in 6 or 15%. What? Scotty Sheffler is, undisputedly, the greatest golfer in the world right now. In four rounds, he did not hit the green with his first shot once. So congrats to write on that. Also wanted to just point out regarding his comment that he wanted his round televised, there are a couple of opportunities for celebrity amateurs to get on television. maybe the most famous is the American Century Championship

which is played each summer in Nevada it's also the Pebble Beach Pro Am which is a part of the official PGA tour schedule Rhett would you have any interest in doing that because I think it would be super cool for the mystical beast to kind of see your game other than that thank you guys for everything

I've been a fan for a long time See your game Hey listen he asked you a question As if you were going to answer Yes I would be interested There you go Pebble Beach. I mean, I might dress up as a caddy for that one.

I rode my back on the edge of it. You will only be dressed up, but you will not be functioning as a caddy. Listen, I want to take advantage of this. I'm just saying a caddy is very helpful. All right, whatever. You got to have a functional caddy who knows that. Half of the reason I played well at that course is because the caddy was so knowledgeable. Like, literally, I just thought you could say because I wasn't there.

Because everything he said was, I mean, every single time. In fact, I- Did he hit it for you? I think this is why the pros are. so good. Let me just make a controversial statement. Every single time I got out to a shot, I would grab a club based on what I know about myself, and he would come up and he would be like, okay, it's 185, but you need to play your 205 club here. And you need to aim here. And I would just be like, yes, sir, and I did it. And I mean, I listened to him every single time. Oh, well, you didn't tell us that. It's crazy. It's crazy that somebody who's a catty, full-time

caddy on that course, and he just knows everything about the course. I don't even know there was a club called a 205. What is that? Another driver? That's how far it goes. You need to, so the club that you hit 185, or the club that you, I would bring my 185 club, and he would say, no, you need to think 20 yards further because of wind or elevation, or sometimes it's just what I know about the green here and where you need to be and you want to be on the back or whatever. Stuff that you just, you just don't know. And I think that's why the pros are so good because they got people telling them what to do. That's it. It's not the practice. It's not the long hours. It's not the skill that they've fine-tuned over many years. It's the caddies. Okay. Caddies need to be making all the money. And they can dress any way they want, right? No. Oh. So who can dress any way they want? Because that's who I want to be. No one. Spectators. And not even really spectators. Not even really spectators. There's a dress code for the audience on golf. Okay. There's standards here. Well, I know I can't be a commentator.

because I can't sustain a whisper. Yeah. So here's the thing. I want to do this. I've been telling the people who help me make these things happen that I want to play in these things, but I don't think that I have put in this specific request for something as ambitious as like the Pepple Beach Pro Am.

But I think I need, yes, yes, I need to do this. I need to do this. And you know what, I'll play more than four times a year and get, that's what I'm concerned about, actually get good, get maybe get some, lessons for once, you know? But I did recently win a tournament. I will say that, of course, I was on a team.

How do you answer the fact that you bested the best player in golf on this hole four times over? Well, because, I mean, odds are every once in a while somebody like me is going to hit it on the green. That just happened to be my day. I did say, though, and I was trying to communicate this to you and the audience for people who don't have a point reference, when I said I was 30 feet from the hole in one shot, it might be like, okay, but I said it's the best shot I've ever hit in my life probably, definitely top five. That's what I was trying to communicate, because it's so difficult to hit it within that small of a space from that distance. And so that's why I was like, I mean, it didn't go in the

hole. I've never had a hole in one. I've gotten close a few times, never had a hole in one. But that in my book is almost as good as a hole in one because it's just a hole in one. It's And you're gonna ride that shot all the way to Pebble Beach. I mean, listen, man. So you gotta reach out of this guy. He, I mean, it seems like he's got strings. He's gone. Yeah.

We can find a way. We can find a way. Because that's, that is the thing is that the ones that, the ones that I've played in so far definitely, like, they're, it's very, it's low-key. There's people watching you on a couple of holes, but there's no, there's no crowds, there's no, because people only show up when there's actual pros playing. Like when we went on Rob Loz podcast and he was talking about playing with Andrew Shafley, I think that was at one of those things. And I think the hard sell here is going to be the people who make these decisions. Don't know who you are. Thinking that me being there makes any sense, right?

This is the same reason why it's hard for us to like. Well, you got an end. and get like a brand endorsement or whatever. You did win the tournament. Because people don't, like, they're like, okay, person who's on police drama on NBC, yes, you can play in this tournament. But guy with popular internet show

that's been around for 13 or 14 years, no, you don't get to do it because we don't know who you are, right? So we got to be the young people in the PGA. Maybe we can't win an Emmy, but maybe you can play golf. Okay, all right. We'll see what we can do. I'm going to work on it. Are you, is your heart leaping within you or,

because there's two ways to respond to this. You could be excited or you could be about to shit your pants of nerves. No, I'm excited. So you're not nervous. You're not like, do I really want to do this? I play better when there's people watching. It's just like, does there's something about my personality? Okay.

You put a TV camera on me. I'm like, I am a lot to end at that point. I already know what face you're going to be making. He's like, I wish he was having fun. No, no, no, no. Have you seen Bill Murray play golf? He's like, Bill Murray is always in these things. He's always in the Pebble Beach program.

Of course he is. And, uh... He made golf famous. He's good. He and that puppet. No, I'm not saying I'm going to be as funny as Bill Murray. That's not my... My style of humor is not to be like...

Funny. Mr. Crackin' The joke. Yeah, my style of humor is not funny. It's not to be Mr. Cracking the jokes the entire time. I'm telling you I need to be there. I could be the, uh... cart girl coach. I can be the cart girl team coach.

How about you to be the cart girl? I could be the cart girl. I'll work my way up. Yeah. I work my way up. You know what? That could be kind of funny. If we could be like, we've got an idea,

let rep play in the tournament, and just Link wants to be one of the cart girls. I'm not going to dress like I did in that seat. You don't have to dress. You don't have to dress. You know, like, I did not write that joke. Remember when I was in like the short jean shorts and the crop top And I was holding the sign yeah

What was the joke? It was like sharp and then I was being pimped Oh yeah yeah because Paige Kennedy's character He made it it was this buddy system season two he made a cameo as my pimp But I was what was I did? doing I was selling I had a sign I don't remember what he was trying to get you to do something but the way that he it was it was a commentary on exploitation yes it was yes it was and it was probably problematic on several levels but it was 10 years ago and we probably wouldn't do it again and we don't even remember it and it wasn't our idea I don't remember

the exact job I remember that day I was like this is not my idea well I can't I can't I can't confirm or deny if it was my idea. I was in the writer's room. It was a Michael Jammin idea. I know for a fact it was. Oh, you specifically remember? Yeah, he wanted to get me in the short shorts. He also taught me what a fupa was.

Yep. So, I don't know. You know, not a great influence. Let's hear another one. Hi, Rett and Link. My name is Ashley. I live in California. I have been watching The Good Mythical Morning and listening to Ear Biscuits since I was in sixth grade.

I'm now 23, so long time. Anyway, I have been recently seeing some Dancing with the Stars content, and people are showing what celebrities or who they would like to see on the show. I've seen a couple people post-Ret on there. Link's been on there a couple of times. I want to see what you guys think about that. Would you be open to being on a show like Dancing with the Stars? Or yeah, I would love to hear.

Thanks, love you guys. Bye. Now, before you say anything, I'm going ahead and cut you off at the knees and say, uh-uh, Dancing with the Stars is not my golf. No, sir. You knew exactly where I was going.

No, sir. Uh-uh. Don't you even go there. It's much higher profile than playing one tournament. I mean, if you were on Dancing with the Stars, people, moms and Middle America wouldn't Shut up about it. Just think about it.

It would be absolutely electric in Ohio. Yeah. I've never watched. I've seen little clips of it. And the guy who is married to the girl and they're both on there or they've both been on there. He was on Good Mythical Morning. Derek. Huff?

Derek Huff. Derek Huff. Great guy, I think. I mean I'm not gonna I seem like a great guy I have not heard any bad stuff Okay we're not heard anything bad about it So he's

You have to be careful these days I know you gotta be careful I don't know But um He came on the show And then I saw Their brother and sister Oh

Oh the brother and sister Derek and Julian Well then that's They do look alike Yeah Brother and sister Siblings are dating Oh okay

All right all right Well Does that change things for you Thanks for clearing that up You're welcome. But proceed. I mean, I didn't know that. They have the same last name.

What else you know? I know that Steve Irwin's son is on there. I was going to say some nice things about him and how I liked him. But before I said everything else I'm going to say about dancing with the stars, because I don't think it's going to be positive. Okay. Andy Richter was on there. Steve Irons really good at it. I don't care.

And I'm not. I know. It's fine. I'm not saying that to you. I'm just saying that in general that I just don't care about dancing with the stars. It just seems like, and fast forward two years from now, and I will be doing it, but like... Y'all hate dancing. I hate, I hate, it's not that I hate it, I just don't care about it, and there's something about it that it's for old people.

The show. The show is for old people. I mean... I don't know if that's true, man. I mean, it's... It's not so you think you can dance. Now that's for young people. And that's not on the air anymore.

as far as I don't know what it's for. I think there's some young people that like it. This, yeah, there's quite a lot of young people who like dancing with the stars. Oh. Here's my reservation. Network television. Yeah.

Young people watch a network television just to watch washed up celebrities dance. Hey, Robert Irwin is not watched us. Hey, hey, don't say that. Well, that's what I'm gonna be when I go on it. Okay, well, you wait until you're washed up. But here's the thing. Am I getting to confused with Masked Singer?

That people also want us on that. In every season, if there's a duo, people are like, That's Red and Link. Every season, everyone thinks we're on Mass Singer. Without question, if there's two people together, it will be Red and Link. I couldn't do it. I mean, I couldn't do it. You couldn't do it. And I'm talking about dancing. I could do Masked Singer. Yes. I'm talking about the dancing with the stars. We couldn't dance with a star. No. I mean, here's the thing. And this is just a little bit about me.

You know, I'm prideful. And I am good. I am good. I'm good at a lot of things. Oh, God. And I like to do the things that I am good at. I am horrible at dancing. And I don't like the idea of just going on national television to be the first time that all these people are seeing me just being this giraffe, baby giraffe, try to not fall down.

I just, I don't, there's too many other things. I want to be at Pebble Beach playing in the pro-am. That's baby, that's what I want. I know what I'm saying. I don't want to be doing something that I'm horrible at. Give me something that I might succeed. I'm great at doing things I'm horrible at. Well then maybe this is for you.

Maybe that is my... That's kind of my thing a little bit, right? Yeah. I do have pride. We might need to think about this. But I take pride in being made a complete idiot at different things. So maybe this is it. I would be eliminated around one.

Here's the thing. It's not like the gong show, is it? Being bad at it is not celebrated. Like being comic, there is no comically, in my experience, in the, like, clips that I've seen, because I don't think I've ever watched the show. Never seen anybody bad. There's never like, oh, this went viral because this person's so bad and it was funny to the judges. Like, the judges are so serious about dancing that they're encouraging or whatever, but I don't think that being bad at it is a good thing. I'm pro dancing but I'm just not pro you know I like people getting in their body and moving and like dance like nobody's watching you know it's just there's a freedom in it and there's an it's it's a powerful positive thing I'm I'm for it but dancing competition is just not for me now I did see is that the show where there's the

one woman with the abdominal muscles? Well, there's a lot of women with the abdominal. But there's one in particular that I've seen, she's like doing an interview and she's belly breathing and they're like, she's got like 24 abs. I mean, probably that sounds like a dancer. She's wearing sequences. Sequences.

Sequences upon sequences. I know so little about this, but it's... That would be an interesting dynamic too because for your partner, you get, you're basically spending. You know, it's pretty intimate. You're like, you're with this young, beautiful, athletic woman for, like, weeks on in, throwing her. First of all, how could I throw, I can't throw anybody in there.

I got a bad back. But, you know, that would be an interesting dynamic. Maybe that's something you should explore. What about massage with the stars? I'd do that. Or, okay, hiking with the stars. Kevin Neeland already did that. Oh.

I don't know, I can't think, gravy. Gravy with the stars. Now you get, now I'm interested. Okay. Hi, my name is Sydney. I love you guys, and I've been watching y'all for a very long time. Mississippi? I have sort of an odd question.

You guys clearly love your wives so much, but I noticed that y'all call other people attractive with no hesitation. I, for one, would lose my marbles if my boyfriend found someone else attractive. I'm curious to hear y'all's input on this because I don't exactly want to feel this way forever. Okay, you're open to change. Are you also open to waking up before you leave a voice coming up? I definitely got the vibe that you're laying down. Here's the thing.

Yeah, just wake up. completely, then call us back. Your marbles are already all over the ground because, newsflash, your boyfriend is attracted to other people. Everyone is attracted to other people. Yeah. It's evolutionary, my friend. Except for people who are not attracted to anyone

because that's their thing, okay? So, but I'm saying if you have the capacity to be attracted to people, you will be attracted to people. to more than one person. It's just part of the normal human experience. So the question is, what do you do with that attraction to multiple people? Not, do you have it? Right, because you're not, I'm trying to think of a non-monogamous mammal.

What's an animal that's, a bonobo? Bonobo, a monkey. Oh, they're not a monkey. I don't even know how to say it. They're like a chimp. I know that they sex a lot. Yeah, they solve problems with sex. They solve problems with sex, and it's just, it's like a social currency.

It's like cigarettes in prison, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So what do you suggest? And they masturbate, too, to solve problems, don't they? They masturbate each other to solve problems, I think. Okay, well. So what are you trying to say, that?

I think that's what corporate America needs. You know? The answer is masturbating each other. Do not put that in our employee handbook. Yeah, please. We're not corporate America. Well, we are a corporation and we do abide by all corporate laws, including that doesn't happen here.

I'm talking about the banks. Hold on, but let's talk about this for real. Because I think that coming from the background that we come from, there was this, and again, I'm not saying this is true of everybody from our background, but this is how it was sort of crystallized in our particular relationships. And I'll speak from my relationship, is that especially early in our marriage, there was, if I found someone attractive, someone on. on the television, you know, there's a lot of distance

between you and this person on dancing with the stars. You know, not talking about necessarily somebody that was like in our lives, but just a person in a movie, let's say. There was, I would never communicate that I was attracted to that person because it felt like a threat to my marriage. And I'm not saying that now,

almost 25 years into marriage that when I see a good looking woman on the screen, I'm like, damn, she's hot like in front of my wife. I don't do that. But I think we can talk openly about people that we are attracted to knowing that being attracted to someone and then what you do with that attraction and the action that you take, those are two very different things. And so to deny that there's an attraction, there's a tendency to, to put all this pressure on any sort of like sexual freedom at all? Or at least even like a noticing. Then it ends up popping out in weird ways, right?

See, I think that's why you've got these people who talk so conservatively about sex that it's never a surprise when you find out that they've got some like crazy sex thing going on in the shadows. Yeah. Because people are people. It's like you can suppress this all you want,

but it pops out in weird ways when you clamp it down like that. So it's just like just being able to recognize that someone is attractive. Right. It's just the reality. So to deny it can create problems. I do think how long you've been together is a factor. You know, if you're dating somebody, exclusively but you just you know you're still in a dating relationship I do think

that's different than being married 25 26 years like we are and acknowledging that somebody is attractive you know yeah and also like I want to be very clear because you want there's a there's a level of respect that's you want and and you I mean no matter how long you've been together, you want your partner to know that you're attracted to them and that you're enamored by them and that you prioritize them and that you're making active decisions to prioritize that vibe. Yeah, if you're not communicating that you're, like, if you're not communicating to your partner that you're attracted to them, right. But you're talking about the person on TV or on Instagram, then that's a big problem. I'm talking about if you're

partner feels that you find them attractive, that you have a good, you know, life of intimacy is active, then, and I'm also not saying that you're like constantly pointing it out, but let's just use an example of like, my wife liked Jason Mamoa, you know, so much that I found it strategic for me to dress up like him and take a series of photos. that emulated him and then make a picture book and give it to her for her birthday or for Valentine's Day or something and then make a video of it.

It's on the Red Link's Wonderhole channel. But, and that was just, it was fun. But if he was in your life, that would have been weird. If he was an acquaintance, that would be weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if he was a friend, yeah. And if you had only been dating for a year, like let's say nine months, it might not would have been weird it's just the communication climate

you know I think denying denying something that exists is just it's not it's not going to lead it is anything good is it true or not right right I mean you just have to find a way to

yeah it's it's not what you notice it's how you respond to it what do you do with it You know, it's the difference between receiving information and responding to information. I'm receiving information and that that ass is out there. You know, sometimes Christian and I are walking around, I'm like, well, there's somebody's, their ass is just hanging out at the bottom of their shorts.

And it's like, well, we both notice. Right. And, you know, what happens, the synapses that are firing might be different ones, but, I mean, we're both noticing. And to say that if an attraction synapse is firing, that's just, that's just biology. But there is a difference. But then if you, sometimes you go down, like you can go down to the beach and you can see like an old couple. And you just see an old, old fart out there just like with his wife just like checking out every young girl that goes by. Now that's bullshit, right?

I just think that that's bullshit. That's a bit much, yeah. That's disrespectful to your partner. I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking about like checking out all these women. I'm just talking about acknowledging the fact that your partner finds other people attractive

and not being personally offended by it. That's what we're taking issue with. Now, what if the guy is also taking pictures developing them and putting them in a photo album? Well, my grandpa did that. So my grandparents went to Hawaii. Mom and Ellen Pop went to Hawaii. And this is probably in 1987, 1988.

I'm at their house in Georgia. And they're like, yeah, we went to Hawaii and we had a great time. And I'm looking at the photos. And then there's just multiple pages of Hawaiian girls topless on the beach. Oh, forgot that. And that was quite an education for me. just pages and pages of it? Yeah, it's like once he found some,

he was like, well I'm gonna take, every time one of these shows up, I'm gonna take a picture. And then he grouped them together in the photo album. There was just a lot, in my mind there was a lot of them. And then Mom and Elle's showing me the thing. And I'm like, she probably, I didn't say anything, she probably just saw my eyes get big and she was like,

yeah, Pop likes to take pictures of the girls. Bit of a weird of it. Bit of a weird of it. And so, but interestingly, Mom and Elle wasn't, she wasn't offended by it. She was like, you know, she didn't care. He said, he appreciates the human form. Oh.

Like a great photographer does, you know. Okay. So I don't know how I feel about what Pop did. But Mama Hill didn't mind. Are you praying over there? No, I'm just. I looked over at Jenna in her eyes, you know. Her mouth is pursed.

And I couldn't tell if you were praying. I'm not praying. No. No, just remaining quiet. Well, it's funny because we're touching on a lot of interesting things, right? Because you've got, there's these interesting lines, right? And I do think that people will deny that they are there. Perfect example is this is something that we don't have to deal with is an actor who has a love scene with somebody else, right?

Now, I'm not going to go into any celebrity gossip here, but let's talk about, Nicole and Keith. So let's go into some celebrity gossip here. So Jesse and I watched baby girl. Did y'all see that? Yeah, I did not see it. I did not see it, no. Well, I didn't see it.

You haven't seen it? I know Chris. Your wife has seen it. Yeah. We've been texting about it. No, we haven't. Probably have. No, I know that she's seen it because.

Yeah, I know she's seen it. So, Jesse and I watched that. And it is, it is, it is the most pornographic movie that's not porn, probably that I've seen, I think. I don't know. And she was an older woman with a younger man. Yeah. And it is, you know, it's pretty wild. And I just can't, I can't imagine, now, I'm speaking for myself, I can't imagine doing what that guy did.

and it not being something that I was into. Like, I can't, I don't know, I just can't do, I can't imagine doing that, right? Just, I know myself, and I can be like, oh, I'm just acting. But I just can't imagine, I know actors can do it, but I don't think I could. But I also think the way that she talked about it in a couple of interviews seemed to indicate that

there was a connection there. Like, Jesse was reading, we watched the movie, and then we were, like, reading about it, And Jesse, like, found some interview and she read some stuff. Again, I'm talking out of my ass here. But then, of course, they announced that they are their parting weights, which, first of all, opens up an interesting opportunity for your wife. I thought about texting her when I saw that.

Oh, she told me about it immediately. She put it in the group chat, like, the day of it happened. I love that. So, now, who knows, maybe their relationship has been falling apart for a long period of time, but... We don't know. We don't know, but what I'm saying is that the intensity of the sex scenes in that movie,

one could speculate that it was either okay because their relationship had already fallen apart or it was one big domino in a relationship that was falling apart. Maybe there's couples that are mature enough to be able to handle that. I'm just saying that it's one thing to be like, hey, let's do one of those love scenes

where there's some making out and then right before the sex happens they cut to the next scene. Right. But I don't, I mean, this was so intense that, again, I guess there are people who, like, work in porn who do this all the time

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there is a line that you have to find in a relationship where jealousy is more justified. I'm saying

that if your partnership you've got to find it. I don't, if I, if I, if I, If my partner was like, I don't want you to do a nude sex scene with another actor,

then I'd be like, okay, that feels like a reasonable request. But if she was like, I don't, she's calling right now, let's talk to her. She knew. No, you better warn her, you better, you know. Hey, baby, you're on the podcast. Oh, God. I mean, is there a problem?

Do you need to take this privately? No, it's not that kind of problem. It's a small problem. It's not a private problem. Okay, well, do you want to tell me about the problem or do you want to talk about how you think that one of the reasons that Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban got divorced was because of the intense sex scenes and baby girl?

Holy shit. No, I don't want to talk about it. Would you, okay, can I ask you a question? I should have texted you first. I do I should have texted you first. Okay, here's the thing. So I was just saying that I think it would be reasonable if, I think it would be reasonable for you to tell me. I don't think, hang on, I don't think you should be talking about anybody's divorce on your podcast.

Okay, well, I'm never going to do it again. Okay. And I said we typically don't do this. I'm just saying it's in the context of what we're discussing today. I think it's beneath you. Yeah. I think it's beneath you. Yeah, but here's the thing.

Just like always, we're so late to it that it's irrelevant now. like we're not the people who talk about it when it happens she's a real person who is having real you're right and I respect both of them he he's also a real he's yeah Keith has been on the show I'm not I'm just real person but I'm not worried about Keith honestly I'm worried about Nicole who is a real person okay well okay there there's more to there but let me got a strong grip so I can tell you that one of the things we are discussing today is uh we're we're discussing today is We had a caller, call in, who said that she was like, you guys seem to talk openly about people that you were attracted to.

I don't know how your partners handle that. If I knew my boyfriend was attracted to someone else, I would lose my marbles. And so my response was, well, you need to pick your marbles back up because your partner is attracted to other people. It's true. I think it's a healthy part of human sexuality. that people are going to be attracted to people

that they did not end up committing to, committing their life to. And that's how many, and I think the closer that people can become in reality will be. Okay. You guys are breaking up. You're saying so many amazing things, but- This is making you split up.

But all of a sudden I couldn't hear you. Say the last sentence again? I said, I think becoming friends with reality is good for a relationship. And I think, and that's a threesome. No, that is not a threesome. With reality.

Reality is the third person. Right. Yeah. This is a comment. We will only have a threesome with reality. And I didn't bring it up. Link brought it right. See, I'm making it sticky. You're making a good point.

I'm just making it sticky. Yeah. Sticky. Gotcha. I just think it's, you know, understanding that I know, I mean, granted, yes, I will say we recently, I mean, I found out somebody followed you and you said that person is attractive and I was like, hold up, I don't know how I feel about this. I didn't say she was attractive. I was like, look, who followed me? And I think you saw the twinkle in my eye and you knew what I was thinking. I mean, I also think that there are some underverting facts that help. I feel safe in our relationship.

I know that you love me. I feel like you're probably going to be faithful to me. The reason, because you're a person. Yeah, probably. I mean, I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know the future. But everything up until this point has proven. that to be the case.

So I don't have any reason not to trust you. And at the same time, it seems like I would be fooling myself if I was like, I am the only person he will ever be attracted to. That's just, that's just not true. But I don't know. I mean, everybody's different. Every relationship is different. I like you a lot.

I like listening to you talk. This kind of turning me on. I got to go. I just had a question. I was hoping you weren't in a meeting, and instead I got pulled out. This is a meeting of sorts. Do you want to ask me the question right now

and we can resolve it, or do you want me to call you back? You can call me back. I love you. I love you too, Link. I love you too, Link. Love you too. Bye.

Bye. Bye. I mean, how could I not be attracted to that woman? Right. I'd be attracted to her if she wasn't my wife. Yeah, and you'll probably stay faithful. The only thing I have told her in the heat of passion a couple of times is if you weren't my wife, I would cheat on my wife with you.

Oh, well, that's where the problem's coming from. It's kind of a sexy thing to say in the heat of passion, you know. Which is not true. I wouldn't do that. I would never say that. I'd never say that. At least it's not what Dax Shepard said to his wife. Well, look at you in your entertainment gossip.

Let's stay out of this. I know, but listen, we only got eight more episodes, and so I feel like I'm just, I'm just, I'm just getting it all out there. I'm just saying, I'm just getting it all out there. This is what happens when we start talking about brunch, then we have to talk about all the hot gossip. Yeah. It is a slippery slope. This is how you become relevant, Link. This is how you become relevant.

It's over, dude. It's over. Yeah, but if we can shoot the views up real high here at the end, I might reconsider. No, you won't. What are we going to do? One more. Let me remind you that Good Mythical Evening Sloshed in Space is available to watch on demand.

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Well, because we had a discussion last week about our, we're not for beastiality, but if there is like a rung, I thought this one would be probably smells a play. Great, let's bring that back. Just round it out. Not again. Caution to the wind. Hi, this is Bella from Houston, Texas.

This is a question from a non-furry person about furries. If you guys had a fursona, a furry persona, what animal would it be and why? And also, I just wanted to say that I will be following y'all and everything you do. And I hope that you could

better soon, Rand. So I'll have a good day, and I'm sorry. I'm better. I'm good. Sorry for what. We forgive you. Sorry for the question, I think. Oh, well, I mean, raccoon immediately comes to mind. I just bought a JJ Kale album that has a painting of a raccoon that's wearing, he has a hat on his lap, and he's wearing human clothes, and they're so, they're so nimble with their hands. They're grabby like you are. Yeah, they're grabbing. You grab so much shit. My fersona is very grabby. Anything you put in front of this man, he'll take it from you.

Like, one of the things, first of all, you've seen it on GMM a number of times. Like, he's got to be holding things. But one of the things I notice about you is that, like, you know how, like, I show stuff to people on my phone all the time? Like, look at this picture, look at this text, whatever. And everyone else besides Link, just looks at my phone. Link, if you hold the phone up, he takes it from you and looks at it like this. I'm old and I have glasses. I know, but I'm just saying...

I have a raccoon persona. You're the grabiest person I know, so I'm saying this actually makes sense. We've got a friend who has been feet... Don't say his name. I won't... Because I don't want to get him in trouble with the city. What?

Who? What? Tell me. We've got a friend who's feeding raccoons. Oh. And... They come the same time every day. And there's so many of them.

They're so cute. I didn't see him. Oh, I saw him at the party. I didn't see him at the party. Multiple ones come up. There's like a family of like nine raccoons that come up every night. And he feeds him cat food and stuff. And they're so cute and they're so grabby.

And they have these little human hands. This is so great. Do they come right up to him? Yeah, he has falconry gloves that he uses now to let them eat directly from his hand. That's smart. Are you serious? Yeah, he's being, you know, just in case the rabies. Yeah.

So that's me. I'm a raccoon. I mean, there's a... What's the Beatles song about the Rocky Raccoon? It's a good song. You've got Rocket from Guardians of Galaxy. Rocky and Bullenkel. And you got Rocky and Bull.

You can be a moose. Well, you know... That's it. Interestingly... You are a moose. Hold on. Rocky was a squirrel, dude. Yeah, I was hoping...

Come on now. You totally catfished me. into becoming a squirrel. This is a rodent, you know, isn't a raccoon a rodent of sorts? No, it's a cat. It's a cat with... What are they most closely related?

Salt and pepper, just like me. See? Raccoon is really it for me. Nice tail. What are you trying to say? I like to have a tail. So, I was... You know, we had my birthday party

and people got me cards. By the way, I got to talk about this now that I'm thinking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A friend of ours, Daniel, who was the director on commercial Kings and has been a close friend ever since. In fact, we went to see a movie together last night. You got him in? No, I didn't get into the premiere. And so we went, I was like, and they were, and I said, if I can't bring my plus one, I'm not coming. So me and him went to a movie. Wow. That's my ground. Good for you.

What movie did you see? Blackphone 2. Oh, Ethan Hawk? Yeah. It's pretty good. Anyway, for my birthday... This is great. I got... You know, he gave me a card, him and his wife,

and I open it up, you know, envelope, so I see the front of the card, so I open it up, and I start reading it. And it's got like a setup and sort of a punchline on the front with a couple of animals. And... Might have been raccoon. I can't remember what it was, but he's writing and he's like, you're a great friend and, you know, I picked out this card thinking that you might find this funny, but now that I see what's happening on the inside of it, I'm realizing that it really doesn't, the plot kind of falls apart and I don't really understand why this guy's got the balloons in his hand or whatever.

And so I felt like you deserved a better card. And so then there's an arrow that points and he's like, turn this card over and then I turned it over and it was a whole new birthday. card that he had glued two cards together so that we start with one card and then he realizes the inadequacy of this card and then you turn it over and there's another card it's the front of the car that then you open then you open yeah and I was like I don't know if this has ever been done before and then it's not gravy but it is a good idea yeah and then everybody who showed up at the party who hadn't seen it yet I would take it and I would show them and the whole group got a kick out of it every single time it was it was a guarantee kick of my party

Was the double card. Well, what about... Oh. It was a lot of good things at your party. Don't mean, saying that was the best part. But the other thing is that... What about the part we started talking about? Everyone talked about the existence of God.

That was good, too. We'll get to that in a second. That'd be a good closer. Because it's actually kind of crazy what happened. I know. That's a little teaser. I'm assuming your wife picked out the card from you and her. And then there was another...

friend who gave me another card, and both of the cards had animals on the front. And they both said that the animals on the front of the card reminded them of me. They were different animals. Different animals. One was... So the one from some of our friends was a lion. Right? There was a lion.

Illustrated lion. Yeah. And then the one from Christy was a goat. It was a cool-looking illustration. It was a mountain goat. Yeah. And I think I'm a bit mountain goat and I'm a bit lion.

I wouldn't say you're sure-footed. For a big man, I'm pretty sure-footed. I've never seen you fall. I'm pretty balanced for a big man. Point-taking. So I think a mountain goat would be probably a little bit better than a lion. Lion's a little self-aggrandizing, you know,

with like the main and stuff like that, but like Billy goat with a hair. You know, you know, I'm head-bud or anything. So we were playing, always getting confused. Is it called frequency? Wavelength. Wave-length. We played it in Good Mythical More, and you turn a dial in order to...

You try to predict. You try to predict on a spectrum. You try to describe something by giving a clue on a spectrum between two extremes that are on a card. And it is an incredible game. It's really fun. And it's great in a group. And you have to turn... So then you give the clue, and then people turn the dial to where they think on the spectrum.

This particular clue is between the two extremes. And then you can reveal where you were hoping they would love. to see if it lines up for different point values. And our friend Jacob was the last person to go. I always do game night from my birthday parties because games are my favorite thing to do and I love what they bring out in people. And so Jacob was the last person to go.

And of course, you pick this card and you can pick either side of like a spectrum and it might be like easy to do, hard to do. And so you're trying to figure out like, okay. Write a unicycle blindfolded. Taking candy from a baby. That would be really close to hard to do. Taking candy from a baby would be really close to easy, right?

Yeah. So he got and picked on the side the probability of the existence of God. So like God does exist or God does not exist. And this is great for our group, right? What was his clue? So he said, well, he referenced another person in our friend group and said, the perspective of this person

basically like how this person from this perspective would do this yeah what they would say and that was a really interesting clue so we were all trying to figure out what that person believed on the spectrum of like God's existence and what we kind of assumed

you know what was that we knew that this person was not a thing Theist, meaning they don't believe in a personal God. Like, they have doubts about a personal God, but they have very high confidence that a God that might be described as the ground of all being exists, right? So they're not an atheist.

I guess they're atheist when it comes to theism, but it's a little bit complicated. But we kind of knew the way that this person thinks about things, and I still think we got it wrong. I think we may have guessed on the wrong side of 50-50. Yeah, I think we got it completely wrong. But then you had a great question. It was, instead of playing the game more, because it was midnight at that point.

So old people ready to go to bed. You said, I want, can everybody go around and mark on the spectrum where you see the probability of the existence of God? This was almost like a Bible study type question. Yeah. But everyone in there has some point of reference to having been in a Bible study for most of their lives.

Not everyone. Not everybody. That's true. true we've got we we have some some friends who don't have religious background but everybody took the thing that went around and like showed their own indication on the spectrum they turned the dial and you know you learn a lot really quickly because some people you'd hand it to them and they'd be like zip bam and they would just go all the way to like nope and then somebody else was like zip bam all the way to

yep they believe and then there's people in the middle and they're talking about why it's actually it was actually a cool little subversion of the game I do I put mine right in the middle, and I think you did as well. I can't remember what you did. I put mine closer to... No, you put yours closer to not exist, yeah. Yeah. Just to balance out Christy a little bit. I put mine right in the middle. And... Who I'm very attracted to. So then, then... I want to get this right because it was mind-blowing. So then... So the way this game works is you close this like sheath over the front of it. So you can't see where the correct answer is.

The correct answer are. And there's basically like two pieces of pie that represent like the probability and they're exactly opposite one another, right? So there's always one on the thing. It's kind of hard to explain. But there's basically a way that this thing can be organized so that it would be exactly in the middle.

And when you close it, you rotate it randomly because you don't, you're trying to, you're trying to like have it land randomly. And there's a 180 degree reads that the answer could fall in. Right. Any... anywhere in there. And so were you... you took it and did it?

Everyone was done, and I guess it was me. I had a few glasses of wine at this point, but I remember that... I was like, and you know what? Let's find out what the right answer is. Let's find out where the right answer is. And I was like... And I was like... And I just opened it and I just opened it and I couldn't see the answer and I opened it. Everybody went...

It was exactly 50-50. 50-50. It was exactly in the middle. We took a picture of it. Jesse took a picture of it. So it was like, we asked the universe to confirm whether or not there was a God and enter this incredible... We made it like a Ouija board. And this incredible conversation. And then the answer was exactly 50-50. I'm not telling you is what it said. No, but the interesting thing was is... What God said. That's what... I think that was sort of the culmination of the conversation was that this is speculation, right? we can have things that we want to be true,

but it's very difficult to have things that we know to be true when it comes to this question. Sure. And it was just very fun to have this random chance generate, because even within that happening, you can choose to interpret it as random chance. That's a coincidence that then, because of our pattern-seeking brains,

we attach meaning to, or it literally is something that's being dictated by some force that is outside of space and time, that just interceded amongst all of us. And you can't know which thing it is. You can say that you know. You can have confidence in one of the answers, but really your interpretation of the events

is based on the presumptions that you bring to this thing. And it was just a beautiful thing to see unfold amongst our friends. I'm really glad you did that. Then we went home. Happy birthday. We just went home. So I take it back.

That was the best part of my birthday party. I forgot about it. The second best part was the card that became another. card. Yes. Hey, Rhett and Lang, this is Maddie from Ohio, and I'm a scientist on the Air Force Base, and my headphones disconnected when listening to the most recent episode, right as you were questioning what bestiality is acceptable. So thank you for letting me get a lot of side-eye from my coworkers. I've had a really great Monday, a fantastic start of the week.

Still have you, but that was rough. Thank you.