Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Rhett Tells Link He’s Gonna Kick His Ass | Ear Biscuits Ep. 396

Episode Date: October 2, 2023

Ever woken up out of a dream and been so relieved it wasn’t real? In this episode, Link talks about his dream that Rhett and himself were going to be in a fight for content, while Rhett dreamt about... a turbulent bus ride down a flight of stairs that ended in a lesson to always read the fine print on a waiver. Plus, the amazing return of Link’s DJ alter ego – Elkhound Snugglebaby at a dance party for the ages! Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/EAR and get on your way to being your best self. Start building your credit up. Open a Chime Checking account with at least a $200 qualifying direct deposit to get started. Get started at chime.com/ear To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. This episode is brought to you by Mazda. When you drive a Mazda, you'll find out why RSUVs won more 2024 IIHS Top Safety Picks than any other brand as of June 2024. Find out what makes Mazda different at Mazda.ca. Find out what makes Mazda different at Mazda.ca Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Link. And I'm Rhett.
Starting point is 00:00:35 This week at the round table of dim lighting, we have had some dreams. Dreams are good, man. Funny thing is, is last night when we spoke on the phone like we do every night, we put each other to bed over the phone. Goodnight. Goodnight, Link. Goodnight, buddy. During my nightly tuck you into bed with my voice call,
Starting point is 00:00:52 you told me that you had a dream that you wanted to share with me today. Yes. And here we are, the future is here. Yes. And I think that that put a thought into my head, which was... To have a dream.
Starting point is 00:01:07 To have a dream, and then also to remember the dream, because when I woke up, I had a funny dream, weird dream, or whatever, and just because you had told me that you were gonna tell me about your dream, I was like, you gotta do it, you gotta get up, and I dictated it into my phone. You trying to out-dream me? No, I'm just saying...
Starting point is 00:01:25 You trying to out-do my dreams with your dreams? Well, I was trying to say thank you. By what? Thank you for giving me the reason to remember my dream, because otherwise it would have just been another dream that's lost into the ether forever. You did a voice memo. I dictate.
Starting point is 00:01:43 That's a good idea. I do a lot of dictating into my phone, so I turn on the little thing. Now, it dictates it wrong a lot of the time. But it's good enough that you can remember it. This is actually how I journal now. Oh, what? I would say 40 to 60 percent, which could be rounded to 50. Half of the time, I journal by, I have a thought, and instead of doing a memo that I won't be able to search the text and I won't be able to organize, I begin to talk into my phone, comma, and I say things like insights that I have in life, period, new paragraph. I will begin doing this on a regular basis, period, new paragraph. Unless it doesn't go well, period.
Starting point is 00:02:27 So I've gotten pretty good at it. The problem is, is anybody in earshot of this? You think I care? I think you should. If that's your tone, it's not a good look. I don't do it at the mall, if that's what you mean. I mean, even for people who love you, it really makes this question.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I don't do it in front of anybody. It's like, do we wanna keep loving him? No, this is a- Cause he's doing that, what is he, you're trying to do an autobiography? This is exclusively, honestly, it happens like in the morning when I'm working out. I like to journal while I work out.
Starting point is 00:02:59 The tone of voice you're using, at least here- I was doing that for the people. Captain's log. You have to speak very clearly so Siri will understand what you say. You have to speak in a Midwestern, middle America accent that a news anchor would speak in so that Siri will understand because that is the voice that Siri has been programmed to think is the center of the way that people talk in this particular country using this particular language. I don't know what that says about Siri, but it says that if I don't talk like a Midwestern news anchor, Siri will not accurately transcribe what I say, period.
Starting point is 00:03:39 New paragraph. Sincerely, comma, new paragraph, Rhett McLaughlin. Just do an earshot sweep before you do that. Earshot sweep. Just make sure there ain't nobody within earshot, and if there is, you just gotta wait. But this has got me thinking of a couple of things. I wanna hear your dream, though. I know, but I want to be able to journal. Now, when you say journal, you're talking about jotting down thoughts.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Dear diary, comma, new paragraph. You're talking about like at the end of each day. I don't do that. That's what I really want to do. I'm not a freak. I think it would be so good. It's therapeutic, man. I don't do morning pages. What? Is this a Jeff Bezos? Jenna knows about that. The artist's way. She knows about that. Okay, great for y'all. Listen. Writing every day. I don't do that. Why not just record a voice memo and then have that translated and then you have your voice, you have a recording of yourself. Well, there is an app. I had a dream last night. There is an app and I think me and you actually. Is it called dream uh I don't know if this is built into the
Starting point is 00:04:45 new iOS I mean everybody's talking about the new iOS but years ago you and I had a conversation had a crazy idea I don't remember we recorded it in a voice memo and then we were talking to someone and they're like you should just transcribe that to text there's an app for that and we did it I don't remember and I don't think it worked well an app for that, and we did it. I don't remember. And I don't think it worked well. I don't want to hear what I sounded like. I don't like the sound of my own voice. I just want to journal.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I do like the sound of my voice when I talk like a Midwestern news anchor, though. I'm going to start doing that for myself. So that's how you got your – I want you to read what the transcription is of your dream to see what's wrong. Oh, you're getting cringe? No, it's better for me to tell you the dream than to read the transcription. Because the transcription is like a cue for me to remember what actually.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I want your dream to be told to me. Oh, my God. You know, it's one of those dreams, I was just so worked up about it. I was disturbed. I was really in my, what are you in? It's not oats. You're a horse. I was out of my, it was just, no.
Starting point is 00:05:58 It shook you up. It shook me up. Yeah. I was shaking up to the point of waking up. Shaken, not stirred. No, shaken awake. And I woke up just enough to realize, oh, it was a dream. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:06:13 What time of day? I think this was like 4 a.m.-ish. That's a bad time to wake up from a dream. I know. It's an early time. Go back to sleep. Go back into the dream! Marky Mark would be up doing pull-ups at that time.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Praying and pull-ups. Cinder blocks. He does a pull-up, and he prays to the Lord. And he comes back down, and he comes back, and he prays to the Lord. He's got an app for praying. Marky Mark does. And I don't know if you know that. So he does a pull-up, he prays.
Starting point is 00:06:41 He says a couple of, he also does some other things. And then he lifts the cinder blocks. But it's Catholic prayer. It's scripted. Catholics can pray any way they want to, man. What you got against Catholics? But I think that they. He probably says a few Hail Marys, yes.
Starting point is 00:06:56 They got some scripts. When he's doing the cinder blocks. I'm just saying, Marky Mark, he's up at 4 a.m. He doesn't go back to sleep. I went back to sleep, and I go back into the dream, and then I was waking and quaking again. Scared, waking up a second time, and I woke up more. This time I was like, this was a dream.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Don't get so worked up about this. And I had that relief feeling of, oh, my gosh. Just a dream. Thank God. Just a dream. And then I lowered myself from the pull-up bar and I went back to sleep. And it happened a third time. And it's...
Starting point is 00:07:33 Same dream? Same dream. The relief is not worth the anguish. You re-entered into the same dream for a third time. And it was an anticipation of something happening. So here's what it was. You and I were going to have a boxing match. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And it was like, obviously it was some sort of publicity stunt, a little bit of desperation on our part. Creator clash or something we did on our own? I think we're doing it on our own. We don't want to travel to Florida. Yeah, no. Nothing against Florida, it's just I don't like changing time zones if I don't have to.
Starting point is 00:08:12 But here's the catch. No boxing gloves. Well of course. This is gonna be like a street fight. Oh we're going raw dog if we do it. Street fight, punching each other in the face. Yeah. And. Fight to the death. No, no, no, do it. Street fight. Punching each other in the face. Fight to the death.
Starting point is 00:08:27 No, no, no. It wasn't a fight to the death. It was like a... It was so real that it was going to happen. We wouldn't even do the little ultimate fighting gloves? Nope. And that's what I was so... I was like, why are we doing it this way? Because it was something that we were planning.
Starting point is 00:08:40 We were both... We weren't mad at each other. We were desperate for something. Clicks. I don't know. Eventually we for something. Clicks. I don't know. Well, eventually we'll do it. Fame. I don't know. Because it is kind of a running joke over the years. Once people who have no business fighting each other started fighting each other,
Starting point is 00:08:57 it was like, well, of course we could pull that lever if we got to. And it would be probably the most popular thing that we've done in many years, if we were to do it. But just so you know, it's not happening. It's... oh. Okay? It's definitely not happening. So don't talk about it happening. Cause I now know what it feels like to believe that it's happening.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Oh, but it didn't happen. It doesn't matter! That's the thing about dreams I don't think you realize is that it's an absolute, completely real simulation of reality that involves every emotion. Why don't you say I didn't realize it? Involved in it. I know. Involved in it. I'm familiar with dreams.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I've read about dreams. Why are you saying I'm not familiar with it? I know what it feels like to know that we're gonna street fight, and it feels horrible, man. I mean, you should be very, very scared of that. It feels, just because of your reach. Bro, I would rip you apart. I mean, you might get a couple of shots in,
Starting point is 00:09:59 but as soon as I started landing stuff, it would be ugly, you're so fast. Not that we're gonna do it, I'm not saying we're gonna do it, not saying we're gonna do it. I'm just saying I would rip you apart, man. All I have to do, and I was like... I would mow you down. It wasn't the morning of. Like a weed.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It was weeks off in the calendar, and I had weeks to just be in anguish about this thing. But hey, I was thinking about my guard, and I was talking to people about it. Yeah, right through it. I was talking to people about it, and I was like, you know what? If I get in a good one early, he'd just bleed like a pig and cry like a baby. If you hit me in the nose, I would start bleeding, but I would punch you out before I bled to death. You have no technique. I did the Billy Blanks thing with my wife like 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:10:46 You know how I commit to things, man. I would get a trainer. I'm not doing it, we're not doing it, okay? So stop asking for it. The thing is is that Mythical Beasts- The time it takes to move your fist to the end of your arm, I could be buzzing all around you, man.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Mythical Beasts, this is, you know, and I think this is a great thing about this wonderful community of fans that we have built, is they don't want to see us fight, man. Sure, there's some. There's some. There's some. But they actually, the idea that we would get into a fist fight with each other, they're like, no, no, no, no. So... Brings him his mother anguish as it brings me. Yeah, I actually think that... It's a horrible idea.
Starting point is 00:11:26 They don't even want to see it. I don't want to do it. Here's the thing. Let's not do it. In the process of nearly murdering you, I would hurt myself badly. I'm just going to go ahead and tell you that. By the end of this thing, we'd both be in a hospital. All I got to do is...
Starting point is 00:11:37 You would be in the hospital. One... No, you'd be in the hospital for me hitting you. One little lick. And I would be in the hospital for me hitting you. Because I'm going to throw something out. My neck's going to go. hitting you. Cause I'm gonna throw something out, my neck's gonna go, my back, but I'm gonna get some shots in. You know what? This was an opportunity for you to empathize. Here was the thing.
Starting point is 00:11:55 This was an opportunity for you to say, man, you really got worked up over this. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I was basically saying that I was afraid of it. Yeah, yeah. You didn't have to lean into that. No, no, no. I was saying... Focus on this! I was like up over this. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I was basically saying that I was afraid of it. Yeah, yeah. You didn't have to lean into that. No, no, no. I was saying... Focus on this. I was like, I understand.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I don't care what you were saying. I had a lot of empathy because you know how bad it would be for you, and I understand that that is the truth. And so I'm feeling for you on behalf of what you would feel if you had to fight me. I'm actually... This is me caring about you. You know? So I'm sorry... This is me caring about you. You know? So, I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry you had that triple dream about me almost kicking your ass.
Starting point is 00:12:33 The waiting is the hardest part. I bet you us fighting won't be nearly as bad as me dreaming about it. You know what? Let's do it. Um... Let's do it. We don't want to. I don't want to. Yeah, the last thing I want to do is ever punch anybody in the face. I've never punched anybody in the face. I punched two people named John in the stomach once in defense of you.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Thank you. And I've had two one-punch fights in my life. So I would do body shots as well. So you gotta be looking out for that. It's amazing how real dreams can be, and it's just all up here, man. Well... It just kinda makes you question, you know... Question what? What is real, you know? If a dream can be that real and it's all here, then there's
Starting point is 00:13:22 so much other stuff that's probably not as real as I think it is. I don't know if you're drawing the right conclusion there, but I'll let you wrestle with that. Okay, well then my conclusion is I need to up my anxiety medication. No, no, no. I mean, that's between you and your doctor. My coach. Yeah. Your life coach.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Yeah, he's giving me pointers. He happens to have a PhD. See that? See that? See that? Little Billy Blanks right there, man. The one thing I did notice about... You trying to tempt me? The one thing I did notice about Billy Blanks is his face is a little messed up. Billy Blanks is... he's like a fitness guy.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I think it's because he got punched in the face. I know everything I need to know about the way you think about boxing. When you think about boxing, you think about Billy Blanks. I don't want to learn anything from a guy whose face is all marred up from getting hit. I want a pristine face. Someone who's been through it and is still pristine. That's who I want to learn from. That's what I need. I need to keep pristine. Yeah, and that's why I'm not going to fight you. Because I want people to continue to think that you're a good looking guy because I think it helps us
Starting point is 00:14:38 get views. I can't even... If I break one of your eye sockets, which I definitely would do, we would lose something. I would lose something. You see what I'm saying? That's why I'm not going to fight you. Well, maybe I can straighten your nose back up.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I had a dream, and I'm not as confused about reality after the dream, but I do think it was a funny dream, and I'm going to tell you about it in a second. They can be so real. But first, we're going to – you know what we've done? We do all kinds of stuff. I mean, we're going to, you know what we've done? We do all kinds of stuff. I mean, we're always doing something new. You probably get tired of hearing about the latest thing that we've done. This is cool, though.
Starting point is 00:15:14 But this is a little bit different. Sometimes we make things, and I'm so excited about it, I take a picture of it, and I send it to my family, like my immediate family. Your little thread, your text thread. Yeah. What do you call that? What's the name of y'all's family text thread? FAM. FAM.
Starting point is 00:15:29 All caps. Okay. I don't know what it stands for, but it's all caps. Ours is just... You didn't ask, but I asked you so I could say what mine is. Sean and Barbara's People. That's long. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:17:27 Visit rogers.com for details. We got you. Rogers. Okay. Dream. That can be so real. I can't remember the preceding events. I don't know what was happening,
Starting point is 00:17:45 but the part that I remember is Jesse and I are on a bus traveling to an event, but not like Yellowstone, Geyser, cross-country bus, like city bus to get to something, and everybody on the bus is going to the same place. You know,
Starting point is 00:18:05 like sometimes if you had to go to like- That's kind of like Yellowstone Geyser. You mean Greyhound? No, no. I'm talking about like, if you're in Yellowstone and you're going to see a geyser- That's a shuttle bus. That's like a shuttle bus. Okay. I'm saying- They don't go across the country. This is the kind of bus- No, this is not across the country. This is the kind of thing where like, remember that year that we went to some award show and we had to like park and then get on a bus and everybody was
Starting point is 00:18:26 going to the same place in these buses? It was that kind of thing. Yeah, like a... Like, parking lot, then bus to an event. Well, it does sound like a Yellowstone bus, a shuttle bus. No, but it was a full-size bus. That's what I'm saying. But it was everyone on the bus was going to the same event. It wasn't like a city bus. Gotcha. Even though I did say city bus earlier, what I meant was a bus was going to the same event. It wasn't like a city bus.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Gotcha. Even though I did say city bus earlier, what I meant was a bus that was in the city. That was more detail than needed to happen. All I remember is that... You might need a good punch to the face. We were on stairs that were very, very steep. And it was the kind of stairs that if you find stairs outside that go like 20 stairs, and then there's like a landing, and then 20 stairs, and then a landing, and then 20 stairs, and a landing, like you see in some hilly cities.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah, that's OSHA requirement. You know, that's just pure safety. It's because if you start rolling down the hill, you gotta stop. That's why they call it a landing. This woman was driving the bus, and she was barreling down the stairs. And we were all really, really scared. But she was saying, I do this all the time! Shortcut?
Starting point is 00:19:38 She was like, I'm actually very good at it! And we were like, this is crazy, this woman is driving this bus down these stairs, and it feels out of control. I mean, it were like, this is crazy. This woman is driving this bus down these stairs, and it feels out of control. I mean, it was like... It was smoother than you would think when we were on the stairs, and then it was jarring on the landings. So think about, there's a number of wheels and the size, it would get on the stairs and then boom! And then, you know? Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And then we get to the bottom, and she has an idea to do this thing where she skids the bus right up to the entrance of the event. Damn. And it does it, and then it gets right to the side, and then it falls on its side. Gently? Yeah, yeah, like it almost didn't tip. You know what I mean? Which side were you on? The side, the low side.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Not good. But I don't remember people getting on top of me. I just remember like, oh, now we're outside of the bus. Like, it was, you know how you'll skip a little bit of time in a dream? Or maybe skip a little bit of time in my memory while I was dictating this? Then we walk into the event, and it is one of those... Can I ask you about this part before we move on? Sure.
Starting point is 00:20:44 How scared were you? Because my point is, all I was doing, Not nearly as scared as you were getting your ass kicked by me. I was just thinking about, that's not,
Starting point is 00:20:51 that's not how I thought about it. Okay, okay. I was afraid for both of us. Okay, all right. But it was, I don't know if I've said it, it was so real. You have.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And it was, I was so worked up that I kept waking up, yet you're in like, you're in like a scene from a Marvel movie, and you're just like, oh, yeah, I'm going to, you know, it's like you weren't, you didn't believe it. You didn't even believe your own dream.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Like, you didn't experience the emotion. Well, I think the thing that you're talking about is you woke up at a very dire point in your dream, and we're in the middle of, like, an emotional response. I'm telling you about the middle of my dream, so I haven't woken up yet. All right, that's fair. And, yeah, exciting things happen in Dreams, Link. It's one of the wonders of the human mind. That's scary as hell.
Starting point is 00:21:40 So we get out of the side turn bus and we go into this event, and this is the kind of thing, it's like one of those events where there's like sponsors there. Like people have like, oh, there's this display for this product that is being sold here because, oh, that must be one of the sponsors of this gala or whatever it was. I don't know. I don't know what the nature of the event was.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I cannot remember how I was dressed. You don't remember what the placard said? I remember this one particular display. Okay. I walk in and I see this display. And it is a branded display that kind of looks like um is three tv screens kind of in a wave of water kind of made like out of some material and it is an ad like a physical standing ad for some sort of aquatic product aquatic product what aquatic product new paragraph Product. What? Aquatic product. New paragraph. Aquatic product.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Aquatic product. And like fins. Like fins or something. Okay. And then I look on the screen and there's people swimming on the screen demonstrating this product. And then I look and I see this man swimming out of like a hole in a wall on the screen. And it's me. Dude.
Starting point is 00:23:10 It's me with the aquatic product. You got main character syndrome, dude. No, and I was immediately like, what is hap- what? And I said, oh no. This is when Jesse and I did that thing, like we went scuba diving or snorkeling in some place, and I signed a waiver. Signed a waiver. I told you not to be signing those waivers! I signed a waiver, and in the waiver, apparently was giving permission for
Starting point is 00:23:37 them to use my likeness to sell their product. Okay. And the first thing I thought was, Flanagan's gonna be mad at me. I was like, oh no. He's our business guy here at Mythical. He's like, oh, you know, I shouldn't have done this. I shouldn't have done this! I gotta read the waiver! Dude, they saw your waiver, they were like, dude, we got the rip-off Jason Momoa, we're gonna put him in the fucking Aquaman. They definitely wanted me to be Aquaman. But that's not all that happened.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Because again, Jessie was also there, and she signed the waiver as well. And so I look at the hole, knowing that my wife is about to come out of that hole, and sure enough, here she comes, swimming out of this hole on the screen. Okay. And for some reason, she comes, I guess because she needed to, like, she was coming out of the hole, and she, like, did something with her hands, like put her hands, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:24:29 She puts her hands like this, so her elbows were like the first thing to come out, but they were kind of near her chest. And it created an optical illusion that she was bare-chested. Good. Like she was coming tits out into this display. She was doing the old elbow titty. Yeah. And... It's like, man, those are some bony tits out into this display. She was doing the old elbow titty. Yeah. And...
Starting point is 00:24:46 I was like, man, those are some bony tits. And I was like, oh my gosh. That, I know this is not the way it happened, but the way that this video is reproduced, it looks like my wife, who was standing right next to me, we just got off the bus stairs. That's an understatement. My wife is topless on this ad, and I didn't even agree, I didn't think I agreed to me. We just got off the bus stairs. That's an understatement. My wife is topless on this ad, and I didn't even agree. I didn't think I
Starting point is 00:25:08 agreed to this, and so I was in a little bit of a panic, and I woke up. There you go. See? But then I became a rational, awake person and said to myself, that was only a dream. I did that too! And then I got happy because I was like, oh, Link told me about a dream. Whew. I did that too! And then I got happy because I was like, oh, Link told me about his dream. I did that. I'm gonna remember this dream. And then I turned over to my phone and I said,
Starting point is 00:25:34 Dream colon going to some event woman driving us in a bus downstairs as she talks about how good she is at it. In the mood to the bottom. See, this is where it doesn't understand what I said. In the mood to the bottom. And the bus falls on its side, and then we walk into this event, and there is like three TVs together in this display, and it's me swimming, but it's for some product, like some fins or something. I know I asked for this, but you're telling me the shitty version of the story
Starting point is 00:26:05 you've already told me. Because when I used a product at something before I signed a waiver, which let them use my likeness, and Jessie was there, and we're swimming out of these holes. Get to the titty part. I say like a lot. And the way that it's framed, like Jessie comes out, and she's got her elbows pulled up, and it looks like her boobs,
Starting point is 00:26:19 so it looks like she's a topless woman in the middle of this event that we just walked into. Nice. So what does that say about me? I'm never signing another waiver. I'm less interested in what it says about you and more about this idea. I mean, it's like, isn't this like, this could be the next planking. It's a very like, third grade, it's a very middle school boy makes boobs with
Starting point is 00:26:46 elbows kind of thing. It's kind of like when people turn thighs into, what do they turn? They turn hot dogs into legs or legs into hot dogs. Yeah, hot dogs into legs. Very different thing. This is turning elbows into boobies. Right. Which is a middle school playground thing.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Very common in those parts. How? Like this? So like if they're bare. No, no, no. What you do is you have a shirt that's stretchy. Usually a t-shirt. You bring your arms into your shirt. Okay, I can do this. And you make elbow boobs. Elboobs, for short, is what a lot of people say. But it's better to do it without... Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah, see, that is a middle school boy thing. It's pretty cool. Let's get a profile. I mean, look at that. Yeah, so that's what my wife was doing while swimming, believe it or not, while swimming out of a hole. Bob Wills? I think so.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Bob Wills it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fun, isn't it? Fun! It was only just a dream. Some are close, some are far. Your teen requested a ride,
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Starting point is 00:29:07 Oh, you're talking about the comeback special. Uh-huh. And I have a little bit of video that we'll put in here at some point. Oh, I did wanna talk about this. Oh, you wanna talk about it? Well, yeah, I wanna talk about it too. Hold on, I wanted to hear your thoughts about this because let me set up the background here.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Okay. Our friend Ward, boy, what a great guy. Every year for Ward's birthday, what he does is he invites his friends over to his house for a jam session sing-along party. He did it two years in a row. And it's like, well, this is an annual thing now. And so he likes to put his middle-aged friends on the spot and say, bring some songs that we can sing, print out chords and lyrics.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Bring instruments. Collate multiple copies and so you can hand them out to everybody and everybody brings an instrument that they can play or think they can play. But not laminated. We don't laminate
Starting point is 00:30:13 because that's wasteful. One year, somebody brought a trumpet. Or was it a saxophone? It was, it was, it was something, it was a band instrument
Starting point is 00:30:23 and it was out of place. But I think it was his sister's and nobody said anything. Oh, I loved it. It was cool. It was a band instrument, and it was out of place. But I think it was his sister, so nobody said anything. Oh, I loved it. It was cool. It was fun. Because, like, you know, anything goes. It was a group small enough to make it just awkward enough where everybody had to participate, which is nice.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And one guy had one of those boxes, one of those percussion boxes that you sit on and then hit. Yeah, yeah. Suspicious. I really like that. Really? I really like it. But he talked to me.
Starting point is 00:30:51 He calls me on the phone. No pretext either. Just calls straight up. You know, something must be up. This is important. Hey, Ward, what's up? He's like, you know, my birthday's coming up and I've decided this year
Starting point is 00:31:03 I don't want to do the sing-along. I want to do a dance party. Like, I want to dance. I want all of my friends to dance. And I started to get a little twinkle in my eye. You figured you knew what he was. I felt like there was an invitation. You knew what was coming next.
Starting point is 00:31:20 He was like. You've had this dream enough times. Yeah. He was like, would you be willing to... And I was like, yes! I made up my mind I was gonna say yes when a DJ opportunity
Starting point is 00:31:30 presented itself because I needed to get back out there. But I didn't realize to the extent that I needed to get back out there. He was like, what's your DJ name? I was like,
Starting point is 00:31:38 Elkown Snuggle Baby, man! Parentheses around Snuggle Baby. I mean... No DJ ahead of him. You haven't been... I just gotta say, you haven't been pushing it too hard lately, so it's not on war that he didn't remember.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I wanted it to come to me. Okay. And he did. And I just made up my mind I wasn't gonna overthink it. It's like it's gonna be an automatic yes, especially in this friendly environment. I was like,
Starting point is 00:32:01 this is a perfect way to get back on the horse. Then I started to think about, you know, it's been quite a while since I've done it. On the elk, you could have said. On the elk. I told you about my last DJ set, which was my second ever DJ set, which was like a year ago. Yeah. Just after Mythicon, it was the complete and utter middle school Halloween party failure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Which is completely on record at this venue. You were still recovering from that. And it had such an impact on me that I hadn't gotten back out there. You let it get you down. And I was like, you know what? This is it., you know what? This is it. And you know what? I'm not going to talk about the work I put into it or the prep or anything
Starting point is 00:32:53 until you start to criticize it. And then I'm going to make you feel like shit. So let's hear about what happens. If you're going to make fun of my DJs, it's their day. If I was going to criticize you, I wouldn't have brought it up. You got your, you got your, no, I want it straight, because I really do want to know what your observations were. This is, I really am interested in this. I didn't wear, I didn't wear the getup because there wasn't enough room.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Ceiling's too small, too short. You know, it was a, it was a living room. So I didn't wear the antlersup because there wasn't enough room. Ceiling's too small. Too short. You know, it was a living room. So I didn't wear the antlers. You need an arena for that. And if I don't wear the antlers, I'm not going to wear the fur tunic. And if I'm not going to wear the fur tunic, I did wear shorts. I did do that. First of all...
Starting point is 00:33:37 And I did have the sign. I will say, you did the right thing, I believe, given the atmosphere, the setting, to not go full get up. I didn't want to make it about me. I wanted to make it about people dancing. Now, Ward really wanted everybody to dance. We had many conversations about getting people to dance. I have thoughts on this. That's included in my review.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Is it going to be on the deck? Is it going to be in the living room? There was so much that went into the prep of this thing, and I knew that it was on my shoulders, like, to make or break his party. Okay. Wow. Yeah, because it was a dance party, and you were the DJ.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Now, I understand that you made the call to make sure that the living room became the dance floor because originally he was thinking maybe it would be outside, it would be the deck. Yeah, out on the deck. So first of all, you were completely right about that. Thank you. The living room was perfect for that.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Yeah. Good call. That was a 40-minute conversation. There was a moment. I'll just say, I'm going start with the shaky moment, okay? That kind of preceded things. Now first of all, people show up. We cleared out his whole living room. Like, we cleared out the couch, we cleared out all,
Starting point is 00:34:57 he had a whole shelving unit. Yeah, he got the furniture out. We cleared out everything. We pushed the piano forward. It was an open hardwood floor. The back of the piano is where I stood so that my DJ deck was on the piano. We rented PA equipment that was way too big for this environment, and we also rented a party light.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah. Now, music was playing when I arrived, but it wasn't a dance party at the time. It was music is playing. You know, music is playing, people getting to know each other, people catching up, whatever. Eating, drinking. Carousing. I knew I was thinking about this.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I knew you were thinking about it, and I knew Ward was thinking about it. Okay, these are a bunch of middle-aged folk who... Don't do this. There's a barrier to just begin dancing in someone's home. There's a barrier to begin dancing for a lot of people, right? Including me. I'm not like, I love to dance, but I'd hate to dance at the same time, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah. Once I'm doing it, I'm going for it, but the barrier to entry to begin dancing, sometimes it's like, nah. And I figured that this is common. So there had been light music playing, and I kept realizing, okay, it's getting dark. First of all, I was appreciating all the choices
Starting point is 00:36:22 you were making, you know, you always do a great job. Good vibe. Your playlist choices has never been your DJ weakness. You make great decisions about... It's really where you falter is some of the technical decisions and situations like that. Yeah, like making sure that the laptop continues to function. That kind of thing. In front of the middle schoolers.
Starting point is 00:36:46 But I was like, okay, it's dark now. It feels like this is probably when the dance party is going to start. Link comes, well, Elkhound Snuggle Baby comes out onto the deck where most of the party has gathered. And basically, you said, this is how I remember it. You were like, okay, the dance party is about to begin. And you, so you got everybody's attention, said that, and you turned around, and then you walked right into the glass of the door.
Starting point is 00:37:21 The sliding glass door. The sliding glass door. Hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hard. And I glass door. The sliding glass door. Hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hard. And I was like, okay, all right. Rough start.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah. Rough start. The dance party is about to begin. Yeah, it was an about face and then like... Turn, two steps. And then you like set, like first of all... It wasn't glass, it was... It was screen.
Starting point is 00:37:46 It was screen. It was screen, because I don't remember a bang, but also, no one laughed. Nobody. It wasn't like, no one said anything. There was like no laughing, and no like, ooh, it was just sort of like... Everyone just kind of froze, no one knew what to do, but then you were like, oh, oh, oh, and then you like grabbed the handle and like, here we go. And you went through this.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Yeah, when that happens, you get, I mean, if you haven't broken through the screen, then you open the door and you just keep going. You just got to get away. The majority of people there I did not know personally. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was my first impression. At that point, I was like, okay, this is either great that he got that out of the way, got that out of his system, or this is like a sign of things to come, and I will find out momentarily. What if I would have had the antlers on? That would have been so good. You would have never made it to the door.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I wouldn't have. You'd still be on the deck. They would have been like caught. You know how you see like a, you'll see a deer. You know, sometimes you can come up to like an elk in the forest. They get stuck. And they can get stuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And they'll die that way. Sometimes they'll get another deer's head stuck on them. I've seen that too. Yeah, you can TikTok that if you want. Yeah, and you know what? That could have been me, man. The rest of the night, I just could have been me. Yeah, you made the right call. And everybody had to, hey, everybody's got to stay on the deck or go all the way around.
Starting point is 00:39:10 So you get back in. You made it to the station. And you began playing music. Okay. And, of course, this is Ward's party. And Ward is very enthusiastic and also very, like, he's not afraid to be like, come on, let's do this kind of thing, right? He's going to encourage you to get started dancing.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yeah. And it didn't take long before the dancing was happening. Yeah. And Jessie and I went out there, we were having a great time. But you missed, do you remember the sound effect part? Oh, oh yeah. Because you missed that part.
Starting point is 00:39:53 That's actually what drew me inside. Right, because Ward was like, I was like, yeah, I did my thing, like running into the thing, and then I was like, oh shit, I'm here, and I started playing my set. Yeah. Right, just when people were wondering, And then I was like, oh shit, I'm here. And I started playing my set. Right, just when people were wondering, who is that guy that just ran into the screen door?
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah. Oh, Cal and Snuggle Baby. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Cal and Snuggle Baby. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Cal and Snuggle Baby. Yeah. I still had those sound effects. Which again, I think was a good call After the first song And One person One couple
Starting point is 00:40:28 Two couples And Ward Were out there I might have played A second song Then I was like You know what This isn't working
Starting point is 00:40:35 This is This is the point where It doesn't happen It's not a dance party And So I stopped the music Entirely And I only played Elkhound,
Starting point is 00:40:47 Snuggle Baby. Because I was like, I had to get their attention somehow. I think that was a good call. I mean, it was awkward. Because I was on the- It was a bit strange, right? I was still on the deck. And I was like, I'm going to go in there. I feel in this scenario- You owe it to me. Well, it's not that I owe it to you.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Oh, you do. It's that, you know when your friend's doing something and trying something and you kind of know that like, well, I know what the supportive thing to do, not that I didn't want to dance, but it's just like, I know that people are not necessarily going to be into this idea. And so I know that Ward, I basically, I saw myself as an agent of dance. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And so I'm like, I'm obviously going to dance. And so maybe if I'm out there, Jesse loves to dance. I knew she was going to be out there. I knew Christy was going to be dancing. So when you did that, I was like, all right, let's go. And that, it got everybody to stop their conversation because it's like, what is being said? It's like this low, distorted voice saying,
Starting point is 00:41:51 elk hound, snuggle baby, and it's not stopping. I think I'm on to something there for this type of thing because it did work. I mean, I could have a new one that just says something like, it's time. Get your ass on the floor. Get your ass. But says something like... It's time. Get your ass on the floor. Get your ass.
Starting point is 00:42:07 But it did work. It did work. It did work and you got to say her name. In case anybody's wondering. Right. Did you give out any cards? Let me come back to that. Okay, so I'm dancing and I'm having a really good time.
Starting point is 00:42:21 And there was a moment in which, and I actually said this to my wife as I was dancing, because you did a really smart thing, which is you went into this old school, I mean, a lot of it was old school, but you kind of went into this old school section where it was like, you're playing songs that most of these people danced to when they were in middle school, high school, college-ish, right? And I remember, and I told Jesse, I was like, this is like when we were kids in the 80s and a song from the 50s would come on and our parents would start dancing. Yeah. Like that. We're all in the 80s, and a song from the 50s would come on and our parents
Starting point is 00:43:05 would start dancing. Yeah. We're all in our 40s. We are doing exactly what they did. We're listening to music from the 80s... Yes. ...and from the 90s, and we're dancing. And the funny thing is is Wards' kids were there, and they weren't making fun of us. They were joining in, and they were dancing as well. But I was like, this isn't necessarily a cool group of people. No, we're not.
Starting point is 00:43:30 But this is a very happy group of people right now. Yep. And everybody was like, oh, yes! Like when you would, I don't even really remember. I mean, I'm sure you do remember because you curated the playlist, but name some of the things that you were playing. You know, and I actually did this at Mythicon too. I'm developing a bag of tricks,
Starting point is 00:43:52 and I have this journey. When the lights go down in the city. I have a secondary thought about that and other songs like it, which I thought was really, really genius. That goes into Billy Joel, for the longest time. And it's like sing-a-long-y, and I knew it would get the 40-somethings.
Starting point is 00:44:21 But the thing that you did... And I made a transition. And again, I may be just a guy who just doesn't go to a lot of dance parties. In fact, I'm willing to say I am not a guy who goes to a lot of dance parties. But the thing that you did that I was like, well, this is... I don't know why this doesn't happen more often. What? The slow dance section.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Right! Ward and I talked, you know, Ward made a joke the day before when we were like setting everything up and he was just like, you know, at a certain point you need to play some Peter Cetera. And I was like, that's a good idea. We should have a couple skate. That's what I called it. A slow dance section.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Oh, and it was several songs. And that is what I call the Snuggle Baby set. Oh, that's smart. And that's why I have the button I can press that says, Elkhound doing business is Snuggle Baby. Matter of fact, the signature voice of that sound bite is here today. Yeah, Jenna Jenna can you demonstrate Oh uh
Starting point is 00:45:27 Elk count snuggle baby Which one do you want me to say The DBA doing business Oh uh Elk count doing business as snuggle baby That was so long ago I've heard it a million times Elk count doing business as snuggle baby
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yes And then we also have the modes Remember I've heard it many times. Elkhound doing business as Snuggle Baby. Yes. And then we also have the modes. Remember? No. Well you don't have to get it. That was so long ago. She's the voice of the orb from Independence Day 2, right?
Starting point is 00:45:56 I don't remember those lines either. Okay, Elkhound mode, Snuggle Baby mode. So I thought that this was genius, and I was like, this is really facilitating something. And again, there were lots of couples. Maybe I'm out of the loop. But I don't remember the last time outside of a wedding that there was the stated purpose of this birthday party was just to have a dance party. And of course, it went into the slow dancing thing,
Starting point is 00:46:25 and my wife and I just had a wonderful time. It was great, wasn't it? We danced throughout the whole thing. And I would get the song going, and then I would come out, and me and Christy would dance. And then she would dance with you and Jesse when I had to go back behind her. Yeah, so... That was tough. She had to take it for the team.
Starting point is 00:46:39 When you've got the DJ's wife out there on the dance floor, there's a lot of me and Jesse and Christy dancing together, you've got the DJ's wife out there on the dance floor. Yeah. There was a lot of me and Jesse and Christy dancing together, including a slow dance, which was interesting. But I felt like, you know, I'm, you know, I'm getting, I'm an agent of dance. And so I'm here to do whatever I need to do. And I was thinking this is going really well. We should do this more often.
Starting point is 00:47:06 For real? Yeah, yeah. Now, you don't want to do it too often. You don't want to do it too often. I'm looking at it. You don't want anybody to get tired of it. And so the only, I have one very, very small critique. Glory of love is the Peter Cetera song.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Just one very, very small critique. I need it. I'm ready for it. I'm open to it. Take my breath away, Berlin. There was just a moment where, and again, this was, you know, most people, it was a pretty familiar company, and there was only a few couples out on the dance floor at this time. But someone, maybe your wife, said something to you, and you just turned the music completely off
Starting point is 00:47:46 and said, what? Yeah. And then you turned it back up. I couldn't hear her. And I was like, that was an interesting move. I couldn't hear her when she was saying that. I thought she was talking shit about me. Yeah, that was the only point I was like,
Starting point is 00:48:02 you shouldn't have done that. Yeah. I think you got to let the song play out and then you log that, you shouldn't have done that. Yeah. I think you gotta let the song play out and then you log that and discuss it on the way home. Yeah. But I don't think the DJ needing to hear something justifies cutting the music out and saying, what? Listen, if someone's gonna-
Starting point is 00:48:16 Because for everyone else, the music just stops. If someone's gonna give a careless whisper, George Michael, then I'm gonna stop the music because I just can't let it burn, Usher. That's pretty impressive. I think next time you say what, it should be on beat. Cause if it keeps up, I'm gonna have to get on my pony, Ginuwine, and get the hell out of here.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Like maybe if it's like a Lil Jon what timed? What?! Oh, I'll put that on the button too. My technique is... Maybe you do that. Now, what about the cards? My technique is weak. What about future events? But my playlist game is strong, and that's what matters the most.
Starting point is 00:48:54 And that's what I kept telling myself. I would say it's the... If this is your target audience... Yeah, it is. Middle-aged people. It is 45-year-old people. And then occasional mythical beasts uh i think a 99 of it is just the music choices and there was a couple of places where the
Starting point is 00:49:15 transitions really really worked i don't remember what they were yeah but i just remember thinking like oh i like that going into this one thing that I learned pretty early on is that it was the most supportive environment. But if you're playing a song and then the song ends and people start clapping because the environment is so supportive, then you've done a bad thing. It's like you should never. Did that happen? Yeah, that happened like in the first 40 minutes. I kind of, I didn't have my ducks in a row.
Starting point is 00:49:50 There was a gap? There was a bit of a gap. I must have been outside at that point. But people clapped because they liked the song that it ended. But it's like, that's, you know, you want to disappear to the background. You got to cut that out. I was actually talking about it afterward in therapy as kind of a personal victory
Starting point is 00:50:06 because it wasn't an ultra failure, like technically or otherwise. And I was trying to figure out why, as my therapist said, sometimes I'll be talking and he'll be like, when you talk about someone, when you talk about DJing, you light up. And it's like, you you know it's nice to
Starting point is 00:50:25 have somebody who can say hey this is this is engaging for you this is this is a this is tapping into your passion and trying to figure out why and some of it is there's so much psychology there is elements of being the one in control, you know? And, you know, I kind of enjoy that. Oh, really? Yeah, and, of course, I just love music. And the amount of homework that goes into being able to pull together enough stuff so that you can make decisions on the fly, like, I had,
Starting point is 00:51:04 I probably had, like, 12 hours of music prepared just so you can. Just in case we got holed up? Well, because you got. Snowed in? No, yeah, that's true. But just to go in different directions and say, what do we need at this moment? And, you know, oh, this isn't working now.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I got to shift gears kind of thing. That challenge is very fascinating to me and the work that goes into it is not really work when you find yourself doing something that uh you would do anyway and you can kind of harness it for something you know it's uh just listening to music is is kind of you know is is my hobby, but back to the control thing. Was it before or after? You know, when we had like our little, we went away with some couples. And a lot of times, I like being the person that plays the music. You know?
Starting point is 00:51:56 Right. I like to set a vibe and I like to like, oh, we're playing Farkle. What's the right type of music for Farkle? We're having a deep conversation. What's the right type of music? We're out by the fire, and people are laughing. And now somebody seems like they kind of want to cry. What's the right type of music? analyzing this to the point where a couple of things that I learned was, first of all, sometimes you don't need music. Sometimes you got to know when it's time to just turn the music off. Because I always think that there's the right type of music for everything.
Starting point is 00:52:42 So that's the first thing that I learned from our couples weekend away. Right. I can play music all the time and that's my instinct but like that's not what everybody wants and it's trying to like figure that out be of service
Starting point is 00:52:51 and not just be in control but then there's also you know Jesse and I have this thing where it's like we've started to connect over a few of Victoria Monet
Starting point is 00:53:02 that's our that's our girl uh huh we started talking about her and her song On Your Mama and like
Starting point is 00:53:10 so oh there's this there's a kindling of something here that I'm well here's the first thing that happened at a certain point in the evening
Starting point is 00:53:22 Jessie leans over and she's like I've been controlling the music for hours. She's like, can I, do you mind if I play some music? And I'm like... Did that threaten you? It could have gone a number of ways, but I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yes, you go, girl. It's your turn. Yes. And then I let go of the reins and I let her take the music over. And, like, I didn't even judge it. And I ended up telling her later. I was like, you know.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And it was at Ward's party. We were dancing at Ward's party because our retreat thing was before it. So because I had put Victoria Monet in the playlist. And it was a point where there was a lull and there weren't as many people on the dance floor. And we were both out on the deck talking. And heard that song come on and we like looked at each other and jesse and i had this moment and then i was like and we both got up and we ran in there so we could dance to our song me and your wife have a song i didn't know about this uh yeah right now yeah we have a song maybe we should have that fight after all. And so we're dancing.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I was like, you know what? I want to tell you that I really appreciate the fact that you asked to take the reins and play music the other weekend. And she was like, really? And I was like, yeah. Maybe you can have a dual. Maybe my wife's got to become a DJ now. Well, this is what I said.
Starting point is 00:54:48 I said... Well, first of all, she said, you know, it was actually kind of hard. And I was like, I know, right? But you... And you had to figure it out. Like, the first few songs... Listen, I really appreciate the fact
Starting point is 00:54:59 that this is how you approach things because you know how much I love music, but I do not like... I do not like music, but I do not like curating. I do not like curating music. The aux is what the kids say. No, no, no. Don't give me the aux. I mean, music is like my first love, but curating.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Right. It's a different – it's a specific thing. I just don't – I don't have the patience for it Right, it takes more than just love of music It's other things Yeah And so she, I enjoyed the fact that she said That it was difficult and she had to adjust
Starting point is 00:55:35 And figure it out, and I was like, and you know what I appreciated the fact that I could devote my full attention to Farkle In that moment Instead of like dividing my attention and i could be more engaged in the conversation instead of kind of taking a step back and like being on my phone even though i'm just queuing up music and then i was like you know what i think um i think you're ready i think you're ready for me to take you under the snuggle baby wing.
Starting point is 00:56:07 This is a franchise? Yes. I'm franchising. Your wife is joining my franchise. Well, what's her cut? She's coming under my wing. I don't get paid anything. I know, but Lady DJ's really, really cool.
Starting point is 00:56:22 I'm just saying. Well, I'll give her a cut. If she starts making the money. Way better. Way better than dude DJs. Like, I'm gonna start wearing a hat and, like, big boots with, like, fish in the heels,
Starting point is 00:56:32 and I'm gonna bring her in, and she's gonna spin the... Okay. I'm gonna be standing back there. I feel like this is, like, a family conversation that probably needs to happen. You know, I think...
Starting point is 00:56:44 I feel like I gotta be a part of this. I just got to insert my opinion some. What? You got nothing to do with this. No, I think the question is, when is your next- I'm her manager. When is your next thing? Because-
Starting point is 00:56:59 She's opening for me. She's my apprentice. Right, okay. She's under my wing. She's the wind. Okay, I'm looking forward to that. It's under my wing. She's the wind. Okay, I'm looking forward to that. It's not a wing, it's an antler. She's under my antler. But when is the next gig? How do these gigs happen?
Starting point is 00:57:16 I don't know. You know? I don't know. Maybe a better question is... Is Laura's party still happening? Because, Jenna, Laura asked me to DJ her party. Yes, she did. And I immediately said yes, and that was like months ago, and it was supposed to be right after Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And then I've heard that it's not happening. Well, because, you know, the strikes have been happening, and Laura hasn't been working, so the party... Well, she's not paying me, though. Well, she's also not paying for a party. Okay, cool, cool, cool. It's a whole thing. So I got to pay for her party just so I can have a date?
Starting point is 00:57:51 Yeah, if you want to pay for her graduation party... Okay, yeah. Okay. Okay, well, this is... Well, Zulu, go fund me. Okay. Maybe my... I bet you my apprentices will be willing to chip in.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Okay. Yeah, well, as you were... Okay, so if you're my wife's manager, I feel like maybe I'm both of y'all's manager. Just because I feel like you got to be, you got to think about these next, first of all, your willingness. I don't know what the venue would be because it's not a club. I'm not going to new clubs. Like I think that if you want to make more of this happen, I think that's the most important part.
Starting point is 00:58:31 No weddings. Right. Right. No clubs. I'm just not ready for that. And that's a totally different thing. Yeah. So I don't know what the... But like, barbecues? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think there's, you've kind of got these two opportunities. You've got parties like the one that we had, right? Mixers.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And I will say, I'll throw this out there. Middle-aged mixers. Jesse and I have been talking, you know, we've been talking about this for a long time. You know, we had the game night thing. Baby showers. At our house. Are these things that you don't want to do? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Well, I'm trying to help you here, so here you go. Jesse and I had the game night thing for a while. Then COVID hit, and it just threw us off. Not that we couldn't get back together over the past couple years, but we just haven't. And then we've been talking about what it looks like to reinstitute something. This fall was very busy for Jesse and for me, and we're just like, well, let's think about maybe we're talking like 2024.
Starting point is 00:59:38 But, you know, I told you, I think we talked about it on a podcast a while ago about these like themed parties because we heard about it on a podcast a while ago about these like themed parties. Because we heard about that one that was like pasta and PowerPoint or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was like everybody has to do this PowerPoint presentation. And then you have to get somebody else's. And then you have to do it on the spot. But then you're also all making pasta or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:59 We just, I'm really, because the thing I do love to curate is a full experience. Like that's something I have a passion for thematically. I'm not great at these are the specific things that need to happen in this specific order because the details sort of like is where I lose interest. But like ideas, broad ideas, the theme, like this meets this, let's get this person to do this and this person to do this, and let's invite these people.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Like, I've really been thinking hard about this, about beginning to do these kinds of things, probably at our house. Are you talking about a soiree? Soiree might be too, soiree sounds like somebody's getting naked. Okay. I don't think anybody's getting naked unless that's, like, part of the performance. A special evening with. Yeah, but it would be like, oh, there's this person that can play this
Starting point is 01:00:50 very specific instrument in this very fascinating way. And they're like really, really well known if you know about this instrument. And we're going to have, okay, so we're going to have somebody come and we're going to all make this meal together and then this person is going to bring out this instrument and they're going to play it. Things like that. And I'm trying to think of ways to put together the themes, right? But I definitely feel like if we begin doing that, there's definitely, especially if it's not a musical performance kind of night, I feel like this is a perfect opportunity for Elk Count Snuggle Baby to, that would be a great venue to be like, we're going to dance. Like tonight we're going to dance.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Oh, dance. Okay. You know, or we just need some, we just need some music for the event curated by Elk Count Snuggle Baby. He's not really like at a booth tonight, but just so you know, like there could be like little signs that says like questions about the playlist, ask Elk Count Snuggle Baby. He's not really at a booth tonight, but just so you know, there could be little signs that say, like, questions about the playlist? Ask Elk Count Snuggle Baby. You know, just, I don't know, we've got to come up with different systems. Because you're kind of like... But the thing that I need is I need an occasion to use the DJ deck. Oh, and that will be provided as well.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Well, then I have to man the deck. That's how it works. I'm not saying that that won't happen. So it's, okay. Well, I'm just saying that there could be a convergence here because I'm thinking about some curated events that then could require DJing. I'm here for you. I'm here for you.
Starting point is 01:02:17 But you gotta be- I'm very affordable for the time being. You gotta think about it. You gotta think about it because, again, you gotta get to it. There's gonna be a time where you do need to put... Any feedback on my face? That's what I thought you were gonna get to.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Because you gave me that... It was dark. I don't know. Posture? Movements? Anything like that? I can't say that I thought about it. Good. I wasn't looking at you all. At one point, you came over to me,
Starting point is 01:02:47 and you wanted to have a very detailed conversation about this podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, because, I mean, it hit in the moment, and I went in early on a song. Right. And I was about to leave.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Yep. And I had a thought. Yeah. And I'm glad I had that conversation, because I was like, if I don't have this conversation With Link right now I might forget
Starting point is 01:03:07 Why would you do that? This moment of inspiration And so We had that And I think it I'm glad we had that conversation Yeah, me too But I couldn't give you
Starting point is 01:03:17 My full attention Because I was No, so no notes on your Facial expression Performance or anything But ultimately What I'm getting at Is there will come a time for you to don the horns.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I think I want to set up the thing where it becomes my backdrop and then I can back up into it like an avatar, you know, like, well, in the movie Avatar, where they like get in the machine and then all of a sudden- Oh, and they attach? Yeah, like I wanna add a little stand to my thing
Starting point is 01:03:46 so it becomes my backdrop, and then I can, like, back up it. Well, you're going to have to start charging if they're going to do that kind of thing. Yeah. That sounds expensive. That sounds like pneumatics. Hydraulics. I think it might just be a couple of straps.
Starting point is 01:04:03 No, but I think it made... That was... I don't know. Ward has a decision of straps. No, but I think it made... That was... I don't know. Ward has a decision to make. Is it... Are we going back to a sing-along or are we going to do dance party? It's a legitimate question.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Can you do both? I don't know. Maybe you can. You've got the system there. But they do feel like sort of distinctly different paths. I need a couple of different venues so I can get better. Well, thanks for the feedback. I'm glad we got to talk about that. Because I want to keep the momentum going, and there is something about, like,
Starting point is 01:04:39 you get lulled into a place where it's like, oh, you know, I got to develop my skill on the wheels of steel. Right. I mean, the one thing to remember, I think's like, oh, you know, I gotta develop my skill on the wheels of steel. Right. I mean, the one thing to remember, I think, is next time, before you announce that it's about time to dance, look at the door that you're about to go through before you say anything. I, I, I mean... Memorize, memorize how it works, where the opening is, then turn around.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I will embarrass myself. Then turn around. Now, people might be like, that might become your thing. This guy's going, like, just, you gotta see this guy. He's going to do something right at the beginning. You never know what it's going to be. There is going to be an implosion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's all part of it. The thing that I've gotten good at is I think I'm really good at just moving on from it. Like, I've had enough, like, unmitigated embarrassing moments in my life
Starting point is 01:05:24 You'd be in trouble if you let it slow you down. I've had enough unmitigated embarrassing moments in my life... You'd be in trouble if you let it slow you down. Just to get up and keep going, man. No, but you recovered well. It was a very memorable party. It's my rec. I'm going to rec Victoria Monet, her new album. I think it's called Jaguar 2.
Starting point is 01:05:44 It's a sequel. It features me and Jessie's song, On My Mama. Hold on, I feel like this is a little awkward because isn't that On My Mama, that's like a sex song that my wife and I make love to. Isn't it? Well, that's for you to ask her, man. No, I mean, Jessie, she...
Starting point is 01:06:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She curated our... I curated one playlist, and then she was like... And then it got kinda old, and then she took over, and I was very happy about that. Oh, I did that for her. No, you didn't. No, I didn't. Alright, that's my rec. Ooh, this has been a fun one. I'm a little sweaty. Hashtag Ear Biscuits to let us know what you think or leave us a voicemail.
Starting point is 01:06:27 1-888-EAR-POD-1. You know what? Play some voicemails now. Hi, guys. My name is Sunny, and I have officially caught up on Ear Biscuits. I started listening to it a couple months ago doing Uber Eats, and now I kind of don't know what to do with my life because I'm caught up on every single one of y'all's podcasts and yeah just thank you for
Starting point is 01:06:53 keeping me sane while I was on the road even though I would sometimes have dreams that we were all friends because I listened to you guys so much so yeah anyway thank you bye

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