Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Rhett's Apology | Ear Biscuits Ep. 483

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

Rhett is so, so sorry. In this episode, Rhett is giving apologies for incorrect facts, Link, listeners, and all of Bosnia – but he gets an apology back from a fan! Plus, Link gets some feedback on his moments of bluntness, and gives some killer recommendations on songs to listen to during a breakup. Again, we’re very sorry. Leave us a voicemail at 1-888-EARPOD-1 for a chance to be featured on the show! Download the Klarna app or visit https://klarna.com/ to get started. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast, where two lifelong friends talk about Life for a long time, I'm Link. And I'm Rhett. This week at the roundtable of Dem Lighting, we have to dig into our errors and omissions. Insurance? No, what? Yes.

We're being sued? Yep. Nope. We're not being sued. Not true, but I made an error and an omission. I made an error or an omission. Okay. A lot of people corrected me in the comments

when I talked about my Croatia trip. and they were like, that was a bad trip. No, they said that when I described the war that I was being told about by the locals in Croatia that I didn't know my facts. And you're right, because I just heard, like, two cab drivers tell me things and kind of filtered it through my brain

and then spat back out what I understood to be the case. So what's the correct? Well, the thing that is not true that I think I must have said was that Bosnia attacked Croatia, that's not true. The attacks were staged in Bosnia, because that's the land that kind of, like, certain attacks were staged in Bosnia. But it wasn't the Bosnian people or the Bosnian troops that were doing the attacking. It was a couple of different forces, but mostly. attributed to Serbia, like Serbia was kind of controlling some of these things. I'm not going to get, I'm just going to basically, I'm not even going to say who did what.

I'm just going to say, the Bosnians are cool. Bosnians didn't impact, did not attack Croatians in the early 90s, as far as I understand. And I knew that when you were saying it. And I would just, I didn't, first of all, I didn't want to interrupt. You were talking. I didn't want to interrupt. I don't like to do that. I never do that.

Right. And I also didn't want to correct you in front of everybody because even though I knew, I didn't want to put you on blast. And I just didn't know if you would lash out at me, right? So this is really, this goes deeper. Yep. I almost made a joke that I would have regretted.

I couldn't. I couldn't call you out. You said I would have lashed out. I know. Okay. Well, then let's keep going then. I didn't want to call you out because you're so volatile and unpredictable. Yeah.

No, I just, you know, I just wanted to leave it to the people and way to go, way to go people. Well, the less, Bosnians and otherwise, thank you for doing the heavy lifting for me and correcting this man and he's taking it so much better from you than he would have taken it from me and I'm being facetious, but. Yeah, you don't correct me because you don't tend to know correct things. Oh, come on now. But come on. The lesson that I have learned now. That was a low blow. Is that I'm welcome, if you want to correct me on anything, anytime you got something.

In fact, I encourage you to do it. I just did. I do know some things. I don't know some things, but I know other things. When you start talking about like other, the history of other countries in war, which I guess I should have known is that I'm literally, that's what I heard, when I went back into my conversation with a cab driver, I was like, okay, yeah,

Bosnia is attacked, there's a mona negro and whatever. And so then I was like, no fact checking, no research, just, I'm gonna repeat this on a podcast. Even on a comedy podcast, you just shouldn't, you know, if you're gonna, you know, I should have just said, the war. Hey, someone attacked someone in the war. I mean, I don't think this was a huge uproar on the internet.

No, no, no, no. This is a, this is not a scandal. Well, don't minimize it. It's not a scandal. Don't, do you need to own this? This is the biggest mistake I've made this year. Don't minimize, oh my God. Well, since you're so embarrassed and crushed, I do want to tell you that we have a voicemail where someone apologized to you.

But I didn't really hear an apology from you. So, then what I think about it, just go all the way and apologize. I said I had an error, I made an error and an omission. Well, that's not an apology. I am sorry for making an error and omission. I am sorry to not only all Bosnians, but I am sorry to anybody with the last name Bosworth. Okay.

Go on. Bosworth, the actor. Yeah. Kate Bosworth. I'm sorry to her. I'm sorry to Brian Bosworth. Mm-hmm. Cool hair.

He was quite a, he was a, he was a, N-F, MLB player, but also like a wrestler? In an actor? Sounds like you're setting up for some more corrections. Who else? I am sorry to anyone who has a Bosch-W washing machine. It's not how you're saying. Bosch. Bosch?

Bosch. I'm sorry to Chris Bosch, who is an NBA player. Any, if you, I'm sorry to anyone and everyone who has anything to do with Bosz at all. Okay. I'm sorry to Wade Boggs, which is even a different thing. For what? For saying that the Bosnians attacked Croatia. Okay.

repercussions that that might have caused for weight box right okay I think I may have ruined some people's days anybody else no that's it what about a what about but a body a body a good buddy of yours okay I'm sorry to my body buddy buddy buddy buddy body my body somebody B-U-d-D-D a good buddy yeah Me. What about me? What about, I just apologize to you. For what? Not, letting you be present in the, in the presence of such salacious misinformation.

Not protecting your little brain against, against misinformation. Not protecting your teeny tiny little brain against the misinformation that I spewed. You're so easily. You should apologize for that. Yeah, I'm sorry. You don't know how many people I told that the Bosnians were going off and attacking somebody in Croatia. I think a whole group started, a Facebook group started.

Now that you've done this, there is a voicemail where someone apologized to you. Oh, good. And that's going to happen. Oh, good. But I want to remind you to watch Wonderhole. It's out on the RettonLink channel. YouTube.com slash Ruttenlink episode three is out now, I believe. Yes.

So go over there and watch that multiple times. Also, if you're a mythical society member or you want to be, well, I think you might want to be because Lily and I are doing a mini series over there. We are calling it, Link versus Lily, last one standing. It's, we do Survivor-esque challenges. And, yeah, there's gross, there's gross food that's coming out soon. Episode 1 is out now, you can check that one out. It is a ridiculous puzzle challenge, and there's three total, and it's pretty awesome. It's pretty fun.

It's pretty eye-opening. Mythical Society.com. Where you can also watch Wonderhole early. That's right. It comes out on Sunday on YouTube. It comes out on the previous Wednesdays on ad free on The Mythical Society. So get you some. Summer's here, and you can now get almost anything you need for your sunny days delivered with Uber Eats.

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I'm trying to figure out maybe there's someone else I want you to apologize to. Okay. Hey, Ren Link. My name's Bryn and I have a bit of a conundrum. I'm kind of dating this guy right now. I'm going on and off at this guy who is very blunt and he just doesn't really understand what he says can hurt people. And I was telling my therapist about it and he told me that I should stick around and use him as an opportunity to become more assertive. myself and so I started doing that and it's really toxic but it's like kind of hot and I'm not sure if I should like continue doing this or I don't know I feel like it's a bad idea to continue but also like it helps me be more assertive but also it's just really really toxic and it's just why I don't understand. So let me know what you guys think. Bye.

Bren, this is a rollercoaster ride of a voicemail. I want to apologize to Bryn. Good. Just in case. For not really following the logic of Bryn's voicemail. I do follow the logic and listen. Well, I don't know. Help me understand it because like...

She is in a relationship. There was bluntness, then there was toxicity, Then it was kind of hot. Well, I understand that. I don't need any explanation about that. It was kind of hot for her to be assertive or blunt? She likes bad boys. It's fine.

But listen, that's not what this is about. Okay. What you're saying, Bryn, is that you are in a relationship with a guy who you've described his behavior as toxic. You tell your therapist about this. Your therapist says, no, no, don't. break up use this as a like a personal growth opportunity so you can assert yourself and then that you like the idea of that because it's a little bit hot you know maybe yeah maybe you're it is a little bit hot to like participate in

that and so now you're confused I don't like your hair that way and you are calling your boys because you know your boys will have an answer for you which by the way is not medical advice is not you shouldn't take it What are the things we need to say for insurance purposes? If I talk about any... Contact your lawyer. If I talk about anything, including Bosnia, or any wars, and really anything at all, it's not to be taken seriously.

It is for entertainment purposes. That being said, you don't only need a new boyfriend. You need a new therapist. I don't think that the... If the relationship was toxic, I just think that she's dating someone who's blunt. And it seems like Bryn has a problem with being assertive. Oh, so you think the problem here is that she said it was toxic and it's not toxic? She said when I took the advice and it's kind of hot, but it's also toxic.

Do you think she's using toxic loosely? I just question like, yeah, what she means by toxic. And if it's a toxic relationship and your therapist is saying, and stay in it just so you can learn to be more assertive, that seems- That seems-sus. But I'm giving the therapist the benefit of the doubt, maybe I shouldn't. So that being said, if it's a truly toxic relationship

as defined by, you know, it creates, there's difference between blunt and being toxic. Being blunt is not necessarily toxic. If it's toxic, then you are not, like, emotionally or psychologically safe. Yeah. It does it sound like that's what's going on? But if that's what's going on, you need a new boyfriend and you need a new therapist. Seems like, but it seems like the therapist might have just been saying you can learn

how to be more assertive with someone who is blunt because you can, people are like that and you can learn to work with it. If you're not assertive, but someone else asserts their opinion by just saying it filterless, then maybe there's a meeting in the middle, but not if there's toxicity. But is that the kind of thing that you do in the context of a romantic relationship? To me, it's one thing, it's like, okay,

I've got this friend who's very blunt. And it's a little bit, you know, makes me feel uncomfortable sometimes or whatever. but I'm going to remain their friend so I can practice whatever you're supposed to practice with a blunt person like giving it back to them

or whatever the thing what you're supposed to do okay but like in a relationship it is weird because to your point the reaction to somebody being overly blunt

to the point where it might rub you the wrong way or hurt your feelings, not even to the point of toxicity, but just to the point where it's like, I mean, we know people, and we've known people. I mean, you know, you run across people all the time, and sometimes you're close to them, sometimes you date them where they're just, they just say what's on their mind. But is the response to that to give it back to them? That doesn't seem to follow in my mind.

If you have a problem with being assertive and asserting your own opinion or your own needs, or your own point of view or whatever, I guess that you could find inspiration from someone who just says what they think. You know, oh, I could, they do it, I can do that. When they do it, what happens? Well, they hurt my feelings. I can do it and hurt people's feelings.

That doesn't seem like a good application. But if it's like, I can do it a little bit more in order to not be, these are just my words, be a doormat or. or subvert my needs and points of view at all times. That's a good exercise to take up space and represent yourself and, you know, assert to a tasteful and respectful level that you're worthy of respect and understanding.

But do you need to do that? I don't think you need to do that in the context of a relationship. I don't know. Give your therapist our number. We don't know enough about this situation. To talk about it for as long as we have. We don't know enough about this situation. We should have said that at the time.

And we're just being blunt. We're just being blunt. Now, I know I'm guilty of this. I've been blunt. You've been blunt. I've been blunt. Yeah. But I wouldn't say it's like an across-the-board, like, character flaw.

I think it happens sometimes. But I'm not the guy, right? Who's like, hey, watch out, because he's going to tell you something. You're, I don't think, I don't think bluntness is the way that, I mean, there, there, some people might describe some of the things that you say as blunt,

but it's more, you go, you might, you might, you will say something, to someone before you have really gauge whether or not the thing that you're about to say to them is going to offend them because it's like, you know, break the ice a little bit. You come in pretty hot and pretty, and most of the time it's your, you're in an effort to connect with somebody.

But sometimes it can be like telling somebody that you don't like the way that they're dressed. Yeah, but I don't do that all the time. No, you do it a lot with, you do it a lot with, you do it mostly with people you're just meeting, which is kind of an odd, is this kind of an odd choice. Ball busting. It's just like, I'm just meeting you in my way of getting to know you

is I'm going to say something that is going to make, potentially make you feel uncomfortable in front of all these people, but some people are going to think, oh, well, you're interesting. but some people are gonna be like, you're an asshole and you just don't ever know what you're gonna get. So that could be seen as blunt.

I mean, you told a guy you told a working musician. I can't remember the context. He needed a stylist. Yeah, yeah. You met a working musician for the first time

while he was recording an album. And And within the first seven minutes. No, it wasn't. It was after a couple of hours. Really? We were having a gentle hang. There was more than that before that, but then it, what it...

I felt like we had, we had rapport, and we had gone deep. And you basically told him he needed a stylist. And I was like, wow, here we go. Here we go. You know, talk a little shit, man. Just gonna bust a little balls, man. But I will say that he's... You're a recording musician.

He still likes. us, he texted both of us the other day. He texts me all the time, just me, not you. That's probably not true. Not true at all. But. Has he ever texted you without me? Yeah.

No, he hasn't. I do regret it. And I do remember that. I remember that and I'm like, you know what? Hold on, let me say, I text him without you. Okay. I have a text there with just him that's about something that we care about together that you don't care about. Oh, yeah. I know what you're talking about.

Okay, so, anyway. Hold on, it's not me, though. Yeah, yeah. You're not, it's not a text thread, not with me, that's just about me, hey, dude, it's like, you don't need to stop. But what I'm saying is that, I keep telling you, it's been years, by the way.

Most of the time, I would say nine times out of 10, you have reason to believe that the person that you're saying this to is probably gonna be like, this guy's just a bit, the people that you've done this to- It's not my M-O. It's your M-O when you're meeting people for the first time. It is. That's true. Undoubtedly, every single time I've been there

in the past four years maybe. But I think that most of the people that in these settings that we're meeting are like other, let's just say broadly speaking, like entertainment professionals, right? People who are kind of walk, people who maybe walk around being told that they're great from a lot of different people. I think that's part of it. And so maybe you feel this need to be like, I'm just going to say something that's going to knock you off your high horse a little bit. And that's just not, you know, obviously that's not my MO. Just a little real talk. And I'm always there and I'm always like, okay, am I going to say something to make this okay? Or am I just going to observe and see what happens? And I would say

that almost every time I think it's ended up being okay. And if it hasn't, we just don't know about it. Like they talked about it later and we don't know them or anything. But I think that it's- But we have this mutual friend. We had a mutual friend. There was a divorce that happened so we're not friends with her anymore okay you didn't have to get that specific it's not and it's not who you're thinking about right now but this person is very was very blunt and every single time we saw this person they would say something that would be like ooh that hurt like look you in the eye and just say something unapologetic

Hmm. I don't know who you're talking about. And she was short in stature. Okay, I still don't know you're talking about, but like, was this, would they do this? People will do that to you because... I think it was a cultural difference. But people will do that to you because you do that to people. A lot of people don't do that to me. Like, I don't get regularly insulted. That I know about it. I'm a whisperless. Okay. Don't you remember? That's like blunt. That's different than what you're talking about with me. Yeah, I think she was Bosnian. Oh my gosh. I'm kidding. I'm totally, I want to apologize.

Oh. I want to apologize. But maybe it is, I think, we did chalk it up to the, I think this is a cultural thing. Yeah. But I will say she did that more to you than she did it to me. Really? Yeah.

She did everybody. You're too tall. You're scared of your statue. But I think people are like, oh, he can take it. Like, he, because he does this. But what she would do is, she would say things, and it was as if she was like, I think I'm doing you a favor. She was blunt. I would, I would, I would describe her as blunt.

If you were like, if you were like, is I think blunt, I'd be like, well, sit down for a second. Right, right. Blunt is not the best way to describe him. Right, it's convoluted. It's convoluted. But this woman was blunt. It's like, oh, wow, you will just say anything at all. It's like my wife's grandmother's sister had a lobotomy.

Right. So it was cultural. Well, no. It was biological. Back in the day when they did lobotomies, it was a thing that they did. And she was one of, because she was in a bad way back in the maybe the 50s. Like when she was a maybe the 40s Like when she was a

She's no longer with us And she would probably be in her 90s or a hundred or something now But half of her was never with you Well so what they would do is She was She went through like in her teenage years She was just doing lots of stuff Crazy stuff

You know walking down the street Naked and stuff like that You know And God for Forbid a woman have hobbies, she is. And she wasn't doing well. And so they did a lobotomy, which was the kind

where they just sever the connection between the brain, or they go in and it's like scramble a little bit of something. You know, that's what they did. Scramble. That's what they did. They would go in there and they would scramble a part of the brain thinking this will fix it. Like literally stick something down in there

and just like do-d-d-d-do-d-d-d-d-d-a-d-d-d-. Yes. What? Lobotomy isn't like changing and putting a new brain in. I know, I thought it was, I thought they removed it, but they just separate it. No, sometimes they'll just go in and scramble it. And re-ranged the furniture.

This was wildly unsuccessful for most people. But for her, it fixed the tendencies that she was doing. I don't know all the stuff she was doing, but it fixed the tendencies that she was doing. But it took away all of her inhibition for, like if you went over there, she'd be like, You need to lose weight, you know. But now, a lot of old ladies will say that kind of thing to you,

but she just said whatever she was thinking. No inhibition at all. And everybody's like, well, that's just her. She's, she had a lobotomy. She's got the best excuse ever. And there's, yeah. I would blame it every day on a lobotomy. Well, I had a lobotomy, as I can say.

Yeah, and I bet you she did. Now, did you ever meet this woman? And did she talk about, you know, I'm severed. No, she did not talk about it. She did not talk about it. Huh, interesting. We knew about it.

But she never said anything. Even her. She never said anything to me. Because you're too big. She never said anything to me. You're too big. It's a you thing. Well, why come she didn't just say, you're too big?

Because she's scared. No, she has no inhibition. The point I'm saying is even a lobotid woman who has no inhibition. She still won't say anything to me. Yeah, she still experiences fear of stature. And children do cry around me. Right. You're like the most realistic mascot

that a child has ever seen. I know more mascoty people than me. You're so mascot. Like, Lando... I'm not big enough around to be... Lando would go under the table when a mascot will come around. God forbid Ronald McDonald come around.

One of those cows from Chick-fil-A. Boy, he was under the table. Have you seen, there's a restaurant where there's dinosaurs walking around and these dinosaurs. That's a nightmare. That's a nightmare. That's a very realistic raptor looking things walking around this restaurant. These children are like losing their minds. Yeah.

Well, yeah, that's what you're doing, man. Even to lobotomize people. So what are we talking about? I think maybe there's another apology coming. This is the tour, baby. And you know what? You should apologize to me again, probably, is part of this because... Well, I want to know where... Why did we start talking about it? Here's what we're talking about, Rhett. It's a breath of fresh air if there's somebody in your life,

as long as you're not dating them, probably, that is going to say exactly what they think. It's like, some people, hey, it's like, you know what, I'm going to ask so-and-so this because I know they're going to tell me exactly what they think. And that's a, that can be valuable. Yeah. You can get good information that a lot of people aren't willing to give you. I'm not even willing to give you because I haven't had a lobotomy. I'd like to go on a record. Okay.

Well, but maybe we could get you one. Maybe one day. Maybe we can scrambles on this. Maybe we can scramble. I am not accepting this. I am only accepting your apologies. I don't know what the application is here. I just think that you don't need to practice relational skills in a relationship in general.

I want to know what's so toxic about their partner. I want to know what they've been doing to be assertive. And if them being assertive has changed the partner's behavior, and that is what's hot. Like, I need to know what is hot. Right. To, like, in the situation, I need more info from it. I'm actually most interested in what's hot. Yeah, yeah.

Can we get another voicemail of what is hot? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And by the way, to clarify the situation, when you told, you told this man that he needed a stylist, he was like, I'm recording music right now, man. He's like, I have a stylist. It's like, I'm not, he's like, I'm dressed comfortably because I'm recording. And then what did I say?

I'm just messing with you, man. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, and that made it a little better. Yeah, he was like, I, you know, I just mean if you wore sweatpants, like, on the front, you cover your album, then we might have a problem. I was like, well, I wasn't planning on it. Listen, I, before we move on,

I will say that that has been a good data point for me. What, that specific interaction? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. If I had to do it again, I wouldn't. to set it, because you brought it up a number of times. Well, I think it's one of the few times that when we were going home after, I was like,

I got some feedback for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Usually I'm just like, I don't, he can do what he wants to. Again, it's not my, it's not my M.O. to go that hard. I took a risk, it didn't pay off. Right. Yeah.

And it informed future interactions that I have had. I will say, can I give you? Did it have, what? We haven't talked about this. Another one? We haven't talked about this. God, dang it. This was another situation in which.

You need to be like, are you in the right frame of mind for some feedback? Remember, we have training in this. Do you remember, you ask if somebody wants feedback before you give him feedback? Would you like some feedback? Because you're gonna think. On a hot mic.

You're gonna think it's funny when I tell you this story. Yes, good Lord. Let me just say, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna change the medium from what the medium was, just because I don't want to, I want it to be a little more obscure. Like if I'm writing this in a book, it's not, this person wasn't showing you this,

they were showing you their painting. Gotcha, gosh, okay? All right. So we were going to a place where someone was working on their painting. And, okay? All right. And when we got there, we got to know them

and some other people who were, were there and they showed us their painting. Like, oh, we've been working on these paintings. Here's a few of them. And you saw the paintings and you did the thing that you often do, which is, which I think is one of the reasons that the person who is a mutual friend

will invite us to see people's paintings because you especially tend to be pretty specific and effusive in your feedback about anything that people show to you, right? Almost to the degree that I couldn't say, anything if I wanted to. But, okay. Okay.

So you... I don't quite yet know what the painting is and what this is, but go ahead. I think I have a guess. Okay. And so we see like three paintings and you're like making comments about each one and like saying some things and like asking questions and engaging in a way that like I think again is the reason that the friend invites us. But it wasn't it wasn't overwhelming.

It was like on a scale of zero to link, you know, link being a 10, it was like, it was a 4. I was keeping it chill. And then while we were there, we started talking about another painter that we all liked. Oh. That this person had also worked with. And so we started looking at some of their paintings. And when their paintings came up, you were like, oh, shit! Oh, yeah!

Oh! Your reaction to these paintings was so over. over the top and it was like, oh, yes, yes. It was like, it was so, it was so over the top. And then you're like, oh, and then this happens and then this happens and then this. In the painting. This happens in the painting.

And meanwhile, the other painter is there and what I was thinking was, wow, we just looked at her paintings and Link wasn't nearly. This effusive and I was like, What is he going to do? When is it going to hit him that this may have happened? And I was like, maybe never. Well.

Then we went back to looking at some of paintings. Their paintings. Oh, yes. Their paintings. And you kind of went back to four again. Yeah. Because I'm not going to fake. Yeah.

I give honest and positive feedback. I gave honest and positive feedback, but then whenever the other painting was sprung on me, I was like, I'm still giving honest and positive feedback, but yes, it's on another level. And my feedback to your feedback is not that you should make the feedback for the paintings that you're not as impressed with as effusive as the other but maybe while you're still with that person and the cool paint the awesome paintings come out you're just kind of like yeah so I also like these you know just like keep it a little just a little smaller for the sake of that person yep yeah you know that was just a little feedback I had yeah um we did that I didn't feel worth talking to you about after the fact but now that we're talking about it it I

thought that was funny I mostly laughed in the moment I think that their their their paintings just were substantially not as good. And I wasn't trying to, yeah, I didn't say that. I didn't say anything blunt. You didn't. Improvement. You didn't say. But the writing was on the wall in between all the paintings.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because sometimes if you're like, well, now this one, I like this one. Like, the implication is that maybe the one we just looked at, I don't like. Right. You know, but that's fine. Then that's fine. Again, what I hear you saying, okay, you are also an artist, right?

You mostly, we do this together, make things that we put out there that are very routinely criticized, right? It's part of the job. Right. And it isn't like we don't want. In fact, I was talking about this. this recently because there is a thing that happens there is a thing that happens

there is a thing that happens when you show your work to someone in this town and there are like a few different things that they might say and if they say that was so much fun that means they didn't like it and they can't think of something else they can't think of something specific to say

yeah and that has happened to us a number of times yeah but I don't want them to say something that's not true like right now I don't necessarily want them to be completely honest with me there's enough your friends don't need to be completely honest with you about your art because your friendship's more important you can leave that up to the people on the internet who are going to be yeah very specifically blunt with their feedback and Or your aunt with a lobotomy.

Yeah, and it might be emotionally difficult to, like, take, but it's not like you put it out there. I mean, you put it out there. People's opinions are how they react to it. So you can't get upset with people's reaction to it. So it's like, I don't know. And then there's other times where you send things to people and you're like, I am sending this to you

because I want your specific feedback and I want you to be as honest as possible. like if it's a draft of a screenplay or a pilot or a book or something like that or even it's like a rough cut like if you invite somebody into the early stages of something

and you are telling them you got the green light to tell me what sucks about this I'm literally asking you that that's a completely different situation too yeah but I mean those other paintings were just

on another level Yeah, and you weren't. And it was tough. Negative about, it was just you were so positive about the other ones that it was very clear that I was like, well, he doesn't like these paintings. And then you got into the car and you were like, yeah. I don't like those paintings that much. But I did a, I mean, before that, I had done a really good job

of only saying I was engaged, I said, honest and productive things. and I took the tension out of the room. I agree with that. I took the awkwardness out of the room by saying, by processing it in a positive way. It was just when them all the paintings popped out. Yeah, but like up until then, lots of good progress. Yeah.

Right? Yeah, well, I don't think this person would invite you back to participate in this process if you had been to like offending people. Right. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes.

And I have been invited back. Right. Yeah. And I think he does that because he's like, well, this will be encouraging for this person. And honestly, I still think that might have been encouraging

for that person. I don't, it was just, I noticed it and I know you so well. that I was like, I know exactly what he thinks about all of this just based on, like, gauging these two reactions. Yeah, but like to get totally... Maybe they didn't see it. To get totally positive feedback, painter one, to get positive feedback,

and then painter two, who, by the way, wasn't even there. Right, made it even better. To get more positive feedback, well, then that, you know, they're different paintings. Yeah. You know, they appeal to different people. Different style. But it was never, you have to be determined to compare, which I wasn't doing.

No. So it was this gray area like, okay, now Painter 1 has their own process. Right. To deal with that. But it is a precarious situation where somebody's sharing something that they poured their heart and soul into. well and especially at that I think at a at a at a like hey you've been invited to like hear this thing this being just been worked on I feel like the painting wasn't complete yeah and I also feel like you're only allowed to get positive feedback in that situation yeah and I knew that and you wouldn't

you would never give negative feedback in that situation like directly negative feedback in that situation you wouldn't never do that but I just think that there are people after the the A stylist thing, I'd like to think so. But that wasn't a comment on his work. That was a comment on his clothing, which he wasn't there for. Total package. If he was a designer or like a fashion model and you said, you need a stylist, then that would have been more. But I think that it's okay to be completely positive.

And I think it's okay to be completely positive when your friend shows you something that they did. I always try to find something positive to say. Like, I'm just not gonna be the person that, be like, listen, when this thing gets out into the world, you'll get all the negative feedback you could ever imagine from all the people who respond. This, we live in a world where everyone's opinion is right there under the thing that you've made.

So you don't need mine unless you ask for it specifically. So from a social standpoint, I just think it's more, on a friendship level, it's more about, I'm here to encourage, I'm here to make you feel good about what you did. Whether or not it ends up, working once it's out there in the public eye it's like you know what I mean um my mind was wondering a little bit okay well we need to but I do know what you were

meaning we need to move on anyway we're gonna let's pass the blunt so to speak to another podcast okay you ready for your apology yes I think I think I I think you can't get it I've earned it. Because you've thrown me under the bus twice. I've earned it. In this past segment. Well, it was relevant. It was relevant.

It was relevant. Revolent. I just did it to get the comments from the people. I did it to get the comments from the people who think I'm always throwing you under the bus. Okay. Because I live for them. We need more of those. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Then I forgive you. When I wake up in the morning, that's the first thing I think about. This is those people. Oh, that's been so hard on LinkedIn. And I'm like, what can I do today on the podcast that we'll get those people excited?

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Uh, Dave, you're off mute. Hey, happens to the best of us. Enjoy some goldfish cheddar crackers. Goldfish have short memories. Be like goldfish. Hey guys. My name is Victor. I just stumbled upon ear biscuits,

even though I've been watching GMM since I was in high school. I came across the episode where Rhett was talking about his vacation out to North Carolina a couple years ago with his wife. and he stumbled across the family and the gentleman took a picture with them and he later commented about how rude Rhett was. I just want to say that was me. I'm a change person now. I love you guys.

I'm extremely embarrassed. I still have that photo and every time it pops up on my memories, it brings back some embarrassing. feelings. So, like I said, I just want to apologize, Rhett. I think you're awesome. Link, you're cool, too. And I love you guys. Bye. Can you refresh my memory? Because I knew there was an apology, but I don't remember the details. This is several years ago. I'm in North Carolina. I am staying at the beach. I have COVID. And my wife has COVID. We both have COVID. And you're telling this story on this

podcast. So I told this story on the podcast because the first time I went outside. I think this is the first time I had COVID, or maybe the second time. Basically the first time I go out in public after recovering from COVID, I'm

walking on the beach. And as you know, walking on the beach in North Carolina, you might not see anybody, especially during the wintertime. And oh, there's a there's a guy, a couple of people, and he sees me, and he's like,

Rhett, and he's coming up to me pretty fast. And I'm like, hey, I'm recovering, I just wanted you to know. And this is like 2021, you know. I'm still into like, I'm recovering from COVID. Like, I feel like I have a lethal weapon. And he was like, I want to get a, can I get a picture? And I was like, I thought, yeah.

I said, yeah, but I'm not going to be able to get, like, right up on you, outside, it's just like, you know. You don't kill him. And whatever we thought at the time. And then he ended up commenting somewhere. I met right on the beach, got a picture he was rude. No context of like, well, he had COVID or whatever.

And so... I love the fact I'm getting you to retell this story and he's listening to it. He's feeling horrible again. Because you're like retelling it. So you're not accepting his apology. You're retelling. You said you didn't remember. I don't.

I didn't. Also, I will say that I don't know how. So what did you say? I don't know how. And Victor, you can call back and correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know how, like, I may be misremembering. It may be that I had COVID and I didn't want to tell. There's a chance.

I can't remember. It's been four or five years. But on the podcast, did you call him out for saying you were rude? Yeah, the story I told was a dude. I tried to get a picture of me. while I was recovering from COVID, and I was like, I didn't want him to get close to me,

and he said I was rude, but he didn't ever tell anybody that it was because I had COVID, which I'm sure I must have said. I might have said, hey, I've been a little sick or something. Like, I may have said, it may have seemed like I gave some excuse,

like I just don't like getting close to people. And then, obviously, he feels bad about it. Years later, he happens, he's gotten on to this podcast. Yeah. He's like, man, he told a story about me years earlier that was me we didn't he didn't stop listening because of it he started listening because of it he started listening in spite of it found out about it

felt even worse but then had the opportunity to apologize which he took and I this is amazing I accept your apology Victor um you know happens to the best of us happens to the best of us listen Victor He got what he wanted out of it, which was a good story that made him the victim. That's true. So. He made a much more interesting story than you. Victor, I would have never talked about you if you had to talk about me.

I mean, well, think about that. Think about that. He got, he got the, you got the raw end of the deal twice over, Victor. And I wonder if you got COVID. Probably not. It's tough to get it outside like that. You should be apologizing to Victor for putting him on blast. You doxed him, almost.

If you would have said his username, then you would have doxed. Victor, I want to say that I'm sorry to you for potentially exposing you to a potentially deadly virus. that I called you out on a podcast and then because my friend's memory isn't great I had to call you out again and now you've identified yourself and now I called you out again

so maybe it's even worse and you're going to feel even more embarrassment when you see that picture but I want to say this apology is 100% conditional on whether or not you are Bosnian so if you are it all stands if you're not forget about it the thing is you're right

Victor he's a jerk he's a jerk there's a reason why he's going on this apology tour today because everywhere he turns there's something for him to be sorry about that's right that's right let's see what else we can apologize about this is Oakley from Minnesota my partner of three years just broke up with me she wasn't a mythical fan so it was probably for the better

and I was just wondering if you had any song suggestions to help me get over the breakup thank you so much and I love you guys for content Jenna's already pulling up her phone and I'm like I know I've got this sorry for

for your loss, but like you said, you're already looking at the positive side. Maybe it's for the best. Your name is Oakley. Right. So that's awesome. You probably got a pair on right now. That's awesome. I have a playlist on my Spotify called Songs to Break Up to.

That you already had. Yeah. Well, this was a listening party. Songs to break up to or songs to listen to after you've broken up? Well, it's songs to break up, too. But it's like if you're in the process. Okay. So this was, yeah, back during the pandemic, I did the listening party stuff. Like me and Britain would, like, create these playlists, right?

And this is just one of them that we came up with. So I'll just list off some roses by Outcast. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. he says the B word a lot at the end and if you don't hear it you're not listening to the explicit version

and it's weird if you accidentally don't listen to the explicit version of Roses by Outcast it gets weird so you got you got to listen to that you want to say the B word at the end every single time

you need that for yeah I agree which brings me since I'm on Outcast this one is not on my list F-U by I think the radio edit was Forget You, but it was actually Fuck You from C-Lo Green.

And what was that group he was in with Danger Mouse or whatever? These are... That's a good one. So far, these are like bitter break-up songs. This is like, yeah, you've been dumping... Good riddance. You're mad or you're mad about it.

Yeah, good riddance. Also, yeah. I have a few then aren't that. A few that, like, you can get into a sad place. But I'm going, I'm going, I'm going for the mad place, Jenna, you add anybody, add whatever you want, but X Factor, Lauren Hill. Okay. I just lost one. I think that's it.

Oh, God, I'm not going to say that one. Bob Dylan, don't think twice, it's all right. Commodores, Say Alone. We love that song. That's a great song. That's such a good song. It's more of a divorce song, but it's, that's kind of like, let's go our separate ways. And that's kind of like a peaceful, peaceful vibe where it's like, all right, my, my, my reactionary, my anger, that type of vibe is kind of settling down.

You can play some of that. I like to throw in Lose You to Love Me by Selena Gomez. Okay. If you want to get really sad, you could start with don't speak by no doubt. It's like, you know it's coming, but you don't want to hear it. Very good song. And then if you want to get really sad, Bonnie Raid, I can't make you love me. Oh, oh, sorry, sorry, Oakley.

Yes, that's good. Can't make you love me if you don't. Honestly, that's the first one that you've said that I would put on my break-up list. Right, because you're, you're wallow and sorrow kind of a guy. Yeah, I'm like, the whole, like, vengeful, like, hip-hop breakup song, I'm like, what? No, never, I would never do that.

But Bonnie Rae, oh, God, that song is so good. It is such a good song. Jenna, you're still looking, what else you got? Uh, I think a good one would be Billy Elish happier than ever. It's so sad. Happier than ever. Like, that's a... Yeah, so you get in your feels.

That sounds pretty sad. Yeah, it's a good feels one. Okay. But yeah, I usually switch over from sad to, all right, let's be a bad bitch again. And then I find my, like, playlist to get, to find my bad bitch again. So then you go to exhale. Shoop, Shoop by Whitney Houston. Ooh, yeah.

I think you could do that. Well, I remember I had that... She's gone. I had that tape. That Merle Haggard mix tape. And there was the loving side and the lonely side. And it was all Merle songs. But I would sit around and listen.

I did not have that one. I would sit around and listen to the lonely side in Wallow and unrequited love. from my crush and it's so great that you would make those you'd make mix tapes for yourself like emo mix tapes but it was like going where the lonely go oh yeah merle haggard you know yeah that's a good one any place the lights are low Taylor Swift's 10 minute version of all too well yeah listen yeah I remember it all too well that'll that's a good that'll cry I mean I'm not I'm not I'm not about to recommend a Taylor Swift song.

We are never getting back together. Do you know the... I mean, that's a good one, too, but this is a cry one. Do you know that, that, this is an interesting story about Mark Maren's special, his HBO special, which I ended up watching just because all the, although the promotion of him talking about stuff on doing all these guest appearances and kind of like calling out the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. the Trump-loving comedians was effective for me I've always liked

Marin but you know I would just like listen to an occasional WTF but I wouldn't I haven't every actually listen to one of his specials but I or watched it I I there's video watch it I had heard that he used yeah I had heard that he used

a Taylor Swift song in the special and people were asking, I think maybe Howie asked him How much did you have to pay for that? It was like 50 grand or whatever And it was like Because he's friends with Jack Antonoff

I don't know Is I think there's something That's the connection? Yeah So all I know is that Like he plays like a sad He plays a sad Taylor Swift song

Through his phone into the microphone As part of the special Okay Basically like in like it's like the last bit. How long does that go on? He plays it enough to get the point across and he's making, he's like,

it's a very sad song where he's basically like on a hike and he's listening to it and he's crying, listening to Taylor Swift and he's like, and he's also like, very out of character. It might be my tears ricochet. That could be, that's a great crying Taylor Swift song.

And I don't want to give the, I don't want to do the bit. Look it up, Mark. I'm not going to do the big. the bit. Taylor Swift special. Like, why he was listening to it and like how he makes it funny. But he does. And yeah, anyway, so. But you recommend this special? I do. I mean, he's got really insightful commentary into this whole, like, how we got to where we're at and the part that comedy played in it. And he's got some pretty insightful biting commentary. And now they're getting, I see a few of the, they're getting a little upset, you know, they're starting to bite back a little. little bit because he upset him because he's like he's a legit guy and they had to listen to him anyway one of the ones made him cry yeah one of the ones that's coming up is bigger than the whole sky oh oh yeah that's a good one yeah i loved you bigger than the whole sky that's that's a

really yeah that's a good taylor swift's cry um also adding praying by keshah million reasons by lady gaga that's another good one that i'm giving it's all it's all ladies it's all the ladies keep them coming make you cry anymore let's see okay I like somebody else by the 1975 that's a good one of you know the person that broke up with you moved on right away okay um and then anything by cigarettes after sex even if it's a somewhat happy song like that music will just get you in your fields that's just that's just break up wallowing and yeah even if it's like happy the lyrics you feel like you're getting broken up with it's just like okay yeah there you have it

see if we helped you out all right well let's say one more hey y'all calling in with an update uh just letting you know that uh back in march i said that my nephew was going to possibly be named lester well baby lawson has been born and we're all very happy just wanted to let you know thanks for your advice Bye. Yeah. And you know, I said it before, I'll say it again. I think the world could use less Lesters.

Right. That's what I said, and I'm said it again. Lawson. Lawson. I like that. Lawson, I think, is a very buttoned-up name. Lawson. Lawson.

Well, it has the word law in it. So then you start thinking like litigation, lawyer. You're not asking for feedback on this, but I'm just saying it's a very buttoned-up name. Lawson? I don't know. It just seems like this kid has the top button button, literally. This kid might wear a tie to school. Like the Ben Stiller character in World Tennen Bombs could have been named Lawson.

It's an L name that I haven't heard much, which I like. Is Lawson a last name? Yeah. I want to think that it's a last name. Gotta be. Gotta be. It's the last name that became a first name. I think I had a teacher named Mrs. Lawson.

I mean, it's better than Claussen. Claussen? The pickles. Oh. Lawson. Laws. Son. What do you call them for short?

You can't. Law. Law! Can't do that. Son. You can do that. but it's just two syllables. It's just another sign.

It's unshortenable. Hmm. Lossy. That's what I was thinking too. I was like, it's not a shortenable. Lawson. Lossy. Lawso.

Loso. Just take the end off. It's tough. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe that's why I so buttoned up. But we've got unshortened names. Or laws that they start calling them instead of like large. It's like laws.

Yeah. That's not going to, I'm not feeling it. I think that's what it is. Then it sounds like you're saying, It's a speech impediment. It's a last name that you cannot nicknameify. Therefore, you're backed into this, like, complete pronunciation corner. And...

So we're calling for a rename. I think... Is that what you're saying? I hope you have a really loose, dudeish kind of a middle name that's just like, what's the loosest kind of name? It's like, bra. Kind of a vibe. Bo?

Sandy Lawson Sandy That's a horrible Well it doesn't go together But I'm just saying Sandy is a loose name It sounds like a nickname already You know

Bud Buddy Lawson Buddy But it really needs to be one syllable Lawson Tim Tim is short for Timothy Maybe no middle names. Middle names are overrated.

Who needs them? Some cultures don't even have them. What about Craig Lawson? Lawson, the middle name. Well, they probably already did this. Whatever it was, it's probably already been done. The child exists. And we're just given an update.

It has been legally named. There's no open questions. And when you said Lawson, I liked it, and then Link started making me question. question it, but I don't think that that's how names work. I just think that names are like, how does it sound the first time you hear it? You like it's, that's all, that's what people are gonna think. If you don't sit around and think about your name that much.

Right. It's like, I never think about the fact that your name is Vesuvius. Like, isn't that like an antique volcano? Yeah, most volcanoes are antique. Yeah, it's like, were you named after a... Yeah, they're all pretty old. Most volcanoes are probably older than most furniture. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. All furniture, I would say. If land forms... All volcanoes are older than all furniture. That's probably not true. There's probably a volcano that just formed up. No, but you're saying if land forms were furniture, volcanoes will be lamps.

Hmm. Because of the shape? No, man. And the light that comes out of them? Because of just the... It's like you're going to antique... What are you going to see? You're going to see.

Oh, there's a lamp. There's fire coming out of it. It's a lava lamp. Could be. Sorry, I hate myself. Antig lava lamp. I liked it. Lawson.

See, we got an apology out of Jenna. Don't tell you. Those are rare. Those are rare. I would like to apologize to the painter. You don't have to bring it back out. Everybody's forgotten about it. We're kind of on it.

Okay. I would like to apologize to the sweatpants-waring artist. Okay. And I would like to express gratitude to you for listening. Good, good, good. And invite you to call us because there's things that need to be corrected on. And you know what? Yep.

You could leave a voicemail to make me feel better about who I am. Yep. He needs that. Yeah, from somebody. He needs that. He doesn't hear that enough in the conference. 1 888. Earpod 1.

And we'll speak at you next week. What's up, Rhett and Link? This is Corey. I just finished watching the latest episode of Wonderhole and oh my god. They got my boy, Link. I ain't expected to get my boy. It's a hot tub with the saliva slurry. Amazing details.

You guys' comedic genius is untouchable. Keep going. I love your work.