Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Rhett's Date With the Whispering Waiter | Ear Biscuits Ep. 398

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

Interstates, dates, and sockless shoes? In this episode, Link discusses his desire to find a shoe that works without socks, Rhett has a very strange date night that gets weirder and weirder as the night goes on, and Rhett teaches Link about U.S. Interstates. It may just blow your mind. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/EAR and get on your way to being your best self. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We got quite a weekend planned. This week at the round table of dim lighting, I'm going to tell you something that's going to blow your mind. Regarding? Interstates. Okay. Unless you happen to already know this. Well, that made a little bit of snot come out my nose.

And we're going to cover, at least it wasn't as bad as the mashed potatoes that you engraved that you got on already know this. Well that made a little bit of snot come out my nose. And we're gonna cover, at least it wasn't as bad as the mashed potatoes and gravy that you got on your overalls a moment ago. Well that's why I got my bibs on. Are we dealing with things? Oh no, no, I just meant if you needed a tissue. Oh, tissues. No, I don't need a tissue.

Just cause I got snot coming out of my nose and mashed potatoes on my work wear bib. Well, you know what? That's what it's there for. That's the purpose of it, and that's why they're white. Yeah. So they'll show all the stains that you get on them. Apparently there's some gravy on my taters. I want to talk a little bit about some fashion aspirations that I got.

Oh. Not related to wearing these white overalls. But I'll get to that later. Aspirations? Because I can't wait to hear about interstate mind-blowing. As of yet, unrealized aspirations? Yes. You need to slow down, man.

Yes. There's something that I want so bad, and I just don't know how to get it. And I'm so jealous of the people who have it. Okay. One thing I would like to do quickly is just re... I don't want to revisit our quickie conversation, which turned into an argument pretty quickly the last time we were together on this podcast.

You don't want to revisit it? I just want to... I don't want to revisit the argument. Okay. I just want to give you, I just happened to, in light of our conversation, in light of our conversation, I was just like, I'm curious, right? Because again, just to, not to resurface the argument, but to, we began talking about the aspect of quickies, and I think I mistakenly started by asking Link how long he thought a quickie was, at which he said 13 minutes, at which I said, what are you trying to prove? And the truth of the matter is I wasn't trying to prove anything.

Yeah, and you know what? I believe that is true. But inevitably, by starting the conversation with you thinking that Akwaeke was 13 minutes, I was left on no man's land, as is demonstrated in the way the conversation was interpreted. However, I now have some scientific information I would like to throw your way. I don't, so you're bringing this back up again

in order to- No, I'm bringing back up because- Like to prove that I was wrong? I just don't understand. No, no. Okay. What's your motive? My motive is that I was genuinely interested in what is the average length of penetrative vaginal sex?

Okay. And has there been any research that has been done on this? Yeah. Okay. And so now... Because I was on the record by the end of the episode of saying that like, I don't, I don't even, we weren't even talking about the same thing. We weren't talking about the same thing.

Exactly. I was talking about a quickie. Right. And I wasn't. And you weren't. I was talking about a quick. Sexual encounter. Right.

Different thing. Different thing. I was. And so when I was talking about a quickie, I was actually talking about a quickie. And so,

then I was like, okay, so what do, what does the internet You're trying to clear your name. No, okay, see,

so now I am gonna get defensive. I just don't know why you're bringing this up again. Are you not genuinely interested? Okay, so, all right, how long do you think,

what do you think the average for vaginal penetrative sex is? And this is, okay, so there's two studies that have been done. Okay. But there was one where they basically gave like 500 couples a stopwatch and said, we want you for a month to begin having sex. And I'm talking about the moment of penetration to ejaculation. Okay?

Great. Not sex timber. Right. My answer is going to be 13 minutes no matter what because I feel like now I've got to die moment of penetration to ejaculation. Okay? Great. We're getting started. It's not September. Right. My answer's gonna be 13 minutes no matter what, because I feel like now I gotta die on this hill for some reason. Well, no, but 13 minutes was your... No, whatever makes you happy. 30 seconds. So, no, according to... 20 seconds.

On your chronological time scale, which is redundant, 13 minutes was your quick version, just so we understand. That's why I said, what are you trying to prove? Would you believe me? I just want to go on around and say i am never trying to prove anything that's evident it is how long do you think is the you're not interested in this are you no i'm okay yeah a thousand couples surveyed themselves just in and outs. How long? Why are you doing this to me again? You're asking me to give a number. I can't do this. I don't do this.

I don't measure things. I don't do numbers. Okay, but it might be interesting. It just might be interesting. 90 seconds. Does that make you happy? Um... 90 seconds. Does that make you happy? Well, you think the average is 90 seconds? I don't... My brain does not work in this way, dude. Well, certainly you have a guess! Like...

I just gave it to you! 90 seconds! Well, no, it's not 90 seconds! Um, the average for vaginal sex was three to seven minutes coming out in an actual average of about the second study. It was five and a half minutes was like the thing that they actually landed at was the average. Okay. Okay.

Now, so I, so I just, just kind of give you when I was thinking quickie, what I was thinking was again and and then i looked up to make sure that i'm just not crazy and so the sort of the generally accepted definition of a quickie is penetrative sex that happens without foreplay usually it's just a quick sexual encounter and almost always given the nature of the time frame it is only the male who experiences orgasm, which, as I explained last time, inherently a selfish thing on the part of a man.

That's why it is a very small part of the sexual pie, so to speak, for me. But speaking of 13 minutes, I thought that you might be encouraged to know that the average time to achieve orgasm for a woman is 13 and a half minutes. So technically, when you stop 30 seconds short of your wife having an orgasm, it is, I guess, technically a quickie for you. But what I'm telling you... My answer was that the quickest that we can both go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, which is not the definition of a quickie, just colloquial speaking or scientifically speaking.

You know what? You're so right. I'm so glad you brought this up again. I haven't thought about it once since we talked about it. But hold on. I'm just, not once. This is not interesting to you? I'm so interested. I'm just saying I'm not invested in it personally.

Right, but you've been vindicated that a 13-minute sexual session, if you're both interested in achieving orgasm, is almost long enough to actually achieve that. And that's exactly what I was talking about. So, in Link's world, well, Link's definition of a quickie, which I would, we'll just call it Link's quickie, which also would be a great fast food joint. Let's just call it a quick one.

I think that's what we call it. Can we get a quick one? Okay. Can we get a quick one? In which both people achieve orgasm. If you get to 13 minutes, you're getting close to that. But if you're going with a traditional selfish quickie, we're really saying you've got to be quicker than five and a half minutes because five and a half minutes is the average length of penetrative sex up to orgasm.

So you're actually trying to... I'm not trying to say anything. I think that's the interesting thing. I'm trying to communicate the facts. You're attaching motivation. I'm not saying why I'm motivated to do it. You're attaching motivation to why I'm trying to do it. So when a scientist goes out...

I didn't say what it was. When a scientist goes out and does an experiment and comes back with his results, is your first question, what are you trying to say, man? Why are you bringing this up? Well, I'm bringing it up because it's interesting. What can people learn from facts? I'm glad he did. So if you're lasting five and a half minutes, and I think what they were doing is they were inserting

and then thrusting continually until orgasm, which is not recommended. They don't want to do other things. So technically, a quickie would be anything less than average, probably on the lower end of that. Because in the survey, what they found is that couples lasted from a range. Do you know what the lowest was? The lowest recorded?

Well, I read the article. I just can't remember. 33 seconds. So that's what I call gorilla mode. Okay? We've established that that's what I call gorilla mode. They didn't call it gorilla mode in the article, in the study, and maybe they will the next time they come out with it. So gorilla mode is about 33 seconds, which, like I said, it's not easy,

but under certain circumstances, if I'm potentially being attacked, if I'm protecting resources, that kind of thing, I might be able to go gorilla mode and pull that off. And the high end of the... You're potentially being attacked. The high end of the average is 44 minutes. So that might be somebody in your family, you know, because you're a 13-minute quickie man. Even though you did then say that. Was it snail mode? Then you didn't.

I guess somebody was able to continually thrust for like two episodes of the Kardashians, you know. Well, they weren't watching the Kardashians because I just think. Is it a half-hour show? I think they think that... Is it a half-hour show? I think they're attractive. Is it a half-hour show? I think it's in the 40s. I think it's an hour show.

Two episodes of Seinfeld, just to be clear. Yeah, yeah. 22-minute show. I thought I'd bring that up for science. I'm glad you did, man. I'm glad you did. I don't want to go gorilla mode on you. So if you have quickie, why?

Because gorilla mode can mean other things too. It doesn't just mean quick sex, it also means beating your chest and then beating the hell out of somebody, which I'm not going to do that. Because they're vegetarians. They look very menacing, but they don't arm us all. They're also endangered. It's a serious issue. They're also endangered. Serious issue. So how do you feel? Interstates. How do you feel about being enlightened?

No, no, I wanna save interstates. I really, that's really what gets me horny. I've got a story. You should've lubed me up with an interstate, mind blowing. Oh, I've got a story. before you went back to quickie. I've got a story about something that happened to me, and then I've got interstate facts. I feel like I need to hear something from you before I get into any of that. Oh, okay. Do you want to know about my fashion stuff?

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In fact, something that we shot last night, which is why my eyes are so red, because we were just like. It was exciting. We were screaming. So scared because we were just like. It was exciting. We were screaming. So scared. We were so scared. We may have announced it by now,

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Like, I'm just trying to... Quite a bit. Like, I think I've said this before. I'm on record, I think, saying that a lot of times I'll go on Instagram when I feel like shopping. And I'll just scroll through the crap that normally I would be on Instagram to see, which is

mostly like camper vans driving through national parks. I think that's what my Instagram is mostly. And then genius lyrics. I think this is what my Instagram is mostly. Okay. And then Genius Lyrics. I think this is what my Instagram is. Genius Lyrics?

You mean like Genius.com? Genius.com. Okay. And then, yes, a couple of mythical things show up. But I'm really just going past all that to get to the next ad. Because it's pretty good at showing me stuff that I think I want to buy. It's pretty well targeted. I will say I keep getting ads for legitimately two or three a day

from that company that you have all the stuff from, and I feel like I can't buy anything from that company because it's so good. Oh, the clothing? Imperfects? Imperfects. I'm like, I can't do it. Yeah, this is actually from Imperfects. I'm like, I can't get this stuff from here because... I pretty much own like 80% of what they make. But I don't know how to tell them to stop. Now, you don't...

Do you do Todd Snyder? Because I'm kind of into... I've done some Todd Snyder, but it's a little too dressy for me. I found that Todd Snyder... To me, the fit is so important that I'm getting a lot of Todd Snyder things. Get the tall boy fit. But there is a lot of stuff that's just, I ain't gonna pay that much for a freaking

shirt that looks like a coat. Yeah. And it's a little too New York for me. But I love it on you now. Okay. I'm gonna give, you know what? I went through that wave. It's not for me anymore.

I think it fits you. Okay. Now, so, okay, again. You throw these little barbs, man. I throw the barbs? I didn't throw a lot of barbs. On the other thing. You get away with it because you wear overalls and you're cute. But I just want you to know that you throw a lot of barbs, but you get away with it.

We have to run interference on who our brands are. And I'm just saying, I bought some stuff from Todd Snyder, and now it's not exactly me. I feel like it's more you than me. Okay. And it doesn't have anything to do with any sort of wave or being ahead or behind anything. Right, but this is probably when I need to announce my new line,

Gorilla Mode. You can dress up. Listen, this is a sincere. This is what's really behind anything. Right, but this is probably when I need to announce my new line, Gorilla Mode. You can dress up... Listen, this is a sincere... This is what's really behind this. I think you can dress up more than me, and it works for you. Like, if I dress up, I start to get self-conscious that I'm a little boyish. And I'm sitting here wearing some overalls today. Careful now. You know? I do have this boyish chip on my shoulder.

Well, I think it's a combination. That's why. A button-up with glasses. Yeah, there's something to... It could be a little too buttoned up. And Todd Snyder is more dressy. And it's... So I think that it fits you.

You know? It's like you got the rugged beard and all the shaggy hair, and it balances out. I don't look like I'm walking into a business meeting at any time. Right. Even if you're wearing that stuff. Right. Right?

So it might look like a dressy lumberjack. I feel like I can't do that. So I am envious of that. So maybe that's where the Barb came from. I'll own that Barb. Okay, Barb. But, yeah, I'll stillvious of that. So maybe that's where the Barb came from. I'll own that Barb. Okay, Barb. But yeah, I'll still get their ads. I got some ads for some shoes.

And, you know, shoes these days, the soles are getting so big. And I'm like, do I? And then I'm like, I don't think I'm going to get on this train. And then you see so many soles that you're like, well, they look so comfortable. They really do. I'm going to get some of these. I wish I had them on today. I forgot I was going to talk about this.

I wore them this morning. Well, I'll get to this. So I saw these shoes. I'm not even going to say the brand. And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to get to this. So I saw these shoes. I'm not even going to say the brand. And I'm like, I'm going to get these things. It's just so much easier to shop, first of all. Because right there on Instagram, you're just like sliding. And then if you, you know, left, right, whatever.

They make it super easy. Apple Pay. It's so easy. You're right. It's so easy. It's too easy. It's too easy. Well, shopping is just the bane of my existence.

Oh, I hate going into a store. I hate it. I just cannot do it. Oh, God. It's like torture. It's like bloodletting. It's like everyone on the outside thinks it's good for you, but then when it happens to you, it kills you. I can feel the energy draining from my body when I'm walking through a store.

And everything fits me. I'm not like you, where it actually sucks to shop. Yeah, I don't know. Actually, I don't know why you don't like it, because the thing I don't like about it is if I take ten things into the changing room, one fits. If I'm lucky. I know, man. Listen, I'm sorry, dude. Can I touch your shoulder? And you have to put it on and button. There's lots of... And I'm buttoning up. I'm buttoning because you got to... So much work.

You got to deal with a couple of buttons at least to get it to close. How many more buttons do you even have to button than the average person? Probably one. Oh. It's probably just one extra one. Might be two.

I think they actually just spread them out. I don't really know. I've never thought about button counting. Yeah, I do think they probably... Because then proportionally, you'd be like... Actually, I think you can... No, I think it they probably, because then proportionally, you'd be like. Actually, I think you can. No, I think it may be a new button because if buttons are too far from each other.

He's gaping. Then you see into people's shirt. Yeah. You don't want to see a gape nipple. You'd have nipple gape. I'm not really that concerned about it, but it just is not very becoming. I saw these shoes, and I'm like, man, they look comfortable, and I don't have any black sneakers that really work for me,

and you know what? I'm going to get these. Oh, the black on black I saw that you had. The soles are brown. Oh, but they're all dark. The whole shoe is dark. The whole shoe is dark. Which I've always interpreted as a dorky shoe.

And that's probably my issue. Yeah, maybe it is. Because, yeah, I was thinking, I don't know if this looks cool, so maybe that's what makes it cool. Trust me. I got several things. I do think these things. I've got several things now that I'm like,

I don't actually objectively, subjectively like these clothes, but I think that they're in style. Yeah, and that's no way to live, but we do it. Well, you kind of have to. If you want to seem like you're not a middle-aged man. I wanted to look kind of fashion forward, but it's got to feel good to wear. You know, it's got to lay right on your body or around your foot. And I get these things, and the damn toe is all narrow.

And I'm like, oh, my toes are being smushed. These are not comfortable. I bought them because I thought they looked so comfortable, so smushy. You know, it's not a ho-ca, but it's like a rip-off Instagram ho-ca, kind of. Okay. Okay. Ho-ca. And the way that they're made, like, it's almost like there's a sock inside of it.

All these tennis shoes now, there's like a... It's like the inside is not... There's a whole neoprene-ish type sock thing happening under there. This seems like it might be a good idea. It seems like a good idea. But you don't seem happy about it. And I'm like, well, they squished my toes, so I

gotta return them. Just narrow toe. And I tried to return them. They're like, you bought these on sale. You can't. You can't. We want. You can't return them. And I just, and I was like, well, well, is that how it works? You can't return? It probably said.

It's like no returns? It probably said no returns. Yeah, I guess it did. But you were so good at shopping and so fast that you missed it. So then I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna make this work. I do like how they look. They're growing on me. You're gonna cut your foot. I'm going to wear these shoes without a sock. Because there's a neoprene sock inside of the shoe anyway.

And how's that gonna make your toes fit? Well, there's less room taken up by a of the shoe anyway. And how's that going to make your toes fit? Well, there's less room taken up by a sock. How big are your socks? Well, every little bit helps, man. I can't return them. Okay. So I'm like, I got to make these work. And it's like a smooth material in there.

Is it removable and washable? No. Okay. I foresee a problem here. And so I throw them on, and I already knew this was true. I can't wear shoes without socks. You get sweaty. Because my feet sweat.

And I don't even have this, like, super ultra-hydrosis of the foot. Like, I'm like a normal foot sweater. There's some people who are like, their feet are sweating no matter what. I don't know anyone. I mean, I see people wearing shoes without socks. I'm so jealous of these people. I think they're sweating. There's no show sock in there. I think they're sweating. It's like there's something about, I don't know why, but I love the idea of wearing

a shoe without a sock. It's like the thing that I want more than anything right now, and I can't have it. The moment I put my shoe in there... Why do you want it so bad? The moment I put my foot into that shoe, I was like, yeah, I think these shoes are made for that. There's a neoprene liner in there. Well, I have an answer for you, and it relates to another ad that I constantly I don't want your answer. I want your empathy.

Well, my son. Don't you want to wear a shoe without a sock? Well, yeah, because I have a pair of loafers that are coming in the mail right now. Isn't that... A pair of, like, leather loafers. And you're planning on wearing them without socks? Well, no, I was planning on wearing them with my little no-show socks. I know, and you're self-conscious about that.

Yeah, but when they don't show, I'm not self-conscious about it. I also get ads for... I tried to wear the shoe with a no-show sock, and you know what it did? The no-show sock just... Showed. Well, no. It bunched up. It went down over my heel and it's bunching up all down in there.

That's because you got a bad sock. And it was the special type that's not supposed to do that because the sock-like liner of this shoe is so slick that it sucks the sock... It eats the sock off my heel. Okay. No matter what. You get the ads for the cream that keeps you from sweating,

and they have it for your hands, they have it for your feet, and they have it for your face. Do you get those ads? No. So I probably get the ads because, as you know, it's not nearly as bad as it was when I was in middle school and high school and probably into college. Like, you think my hands are clammy now?

Oh, I know you had the problem. It was, the reason, I ended up getting that dry saw. You remember that? Because I was playing basketball, and I needed to be able to hold on to a leather basketball, and my hands would get so sweaty. I'm amazed, by the way, that back in the day, pre-internet, that you discovered this product and used it on your hands?

We asked the doctor. A doctor told me. I didn't like find the information in like the library. Because right now it's probably an ad on TikTok. So there's a new product and I'm not going to say what it is and you probably get this ad, but like they're doing so much internet advertising. You know, there's brands that like the ones that we've been talking about so far, they're just spending a lot of money on the internet and actually making good ads. And they've kind of figured out that game.

Well, they've got a deodorant that is like a super hyper-effective deodorant, but then they've got creams for your face, for your hands, for your feet. I don't know how it works. I'm assuming that it probably has aluminum in it and it clogs your pores and eventually stops the sweating or something. I don't know. That's why I'm not mentioning the brand because I don't know how it works. But they make it for your feet.

And if you really, really want to wear something without a sock and you don't want to wear the no-show sock, listen, I got these loafers coming and they're so low that I got to get a no-show sock that's just barely holding on to my foot. Just like grabbing on both sides of my foot and just holding on for dear life. You know what I mean? Yes.

And then I see the people, the cool guys who wear like a loafer. When I say cool guy wearing a loafer, I'm picturing that guy that paints the cowboy paintings. Oh! He's my fashion inspiration. I love his paintings. I don't know what his... Well, he's way cooler than I'll ever be. He dresses like a cowboy.

Mark Margioti or something like that. Can y'all look that up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's almost it. He's like a... I donguiotti or something like that. Can y'all look that up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's almost it. He's like a... I don't think he's... Western paintings. I don't even think he's American.

He's too cool to be American. But he's like... He's too good looking to be good at something else. Do you know what I'm saying? He's too good looking to be that good of a painter. Yeah. And that good of a dresser. Okay.

But it's really working for him. And... I don't know if I'm saying his last name right. Margioti? Are y'all looking it up? Yeah, we're looking it up. Mark Margioti, painter, Western. You'll see a guy with like a mustache. Maggiore?

Yes. I'm trying to find an image of him. Yeah, I think I've seen. Yeah. It's just. Yeah, I think I've seen the guy, he's like a. Mark Margory style, like search that, and then he comes up and he's got like, like he dresses. He's got a windblown kind of a band.

Pretty masculine, you know what I'm saying? Pretty masculine, but he's doing the like. Oh, yeah. Yeah, oh see, now the ladies have found him. Hello, hello Mark. Now look at the, keep your eye on the paintings. And this guy's got style for days. Now, he wears a lot of hats.

I'm not really doing the hat thing, but it's, you know, he's embracing the sort of, like, how things have gotten a little bit bigger, and so he's wearing, like, the pleated pants. He'll tuck a loose-fitting button-up into pleated pants, but then he's, like, he's always got these loafers on, and I'm like, should I do, I mean, I don't know. I'm experimenting. Am I going to do the loafer thing?

And so I've got some coming in the mail. Not here yet. Don't know what's up. You thinking you're going to have to buy some sweat feet? But I'll tell you right now, I am 100% sure that he doesn't have no-show socks on. Right. A guy that cool. That's what I'm saying. I am 100% sure That he doesn't have no show socks on Right A guy that cool That's what I'm saying

But so There's something about If you pull his loafer off And smell it What does it smell like? It probably smells wonderful It probably stinks You know

But if I did it It would smell like trash You know what It might smell like the leather From the loafer Maybe that's your answer Do you think the loafer Do you think the leather

The leather overpowers it? Yeah The loafer leather Makes your feet smell better Maybe that's your answer. Do you think the leather overpowers it? Yeah, the loafer leather makes your feet smell better. Maybe that's the thing. His paintings are cool too, by the way. There's something magical and seemingly unattainable about just the carefree nature of sliding your unsocked foot into a shoe. Right.

It feels like, why do I have this little teeny sock that feels like something from the future, like an astronaut would put on before he got into a suit? Like, why do I have these? It's not just because I don't like the way it looks when you see my feet. It's that it feels like... It's the connection with... I'm cheating a little bit. Like, socks are for babies.

Shoes are for doers. I doubt that this Mark guy wears underwear. You know? Underwear is a modern invention. Yeah. You know? Undergarments. They used to just have pants.

And, you know, they call it commando. You know? It's like... Right, you're in charge. It's like... When you don't have underwear on, you're in charge. It's like, I mean... They don't call It's like... Right, you're in charge. It's like... When you don't have underwear on, you're in charge. It's like, I mean, they don't call it, like, sissy chafe. Right, yeah.

You don't want to be, like, you know, there's guys in Hollywood who have, like, a reputation for, like, purposely not wearing underwear so they can just, like, make you look at their schlong and their pants. The things you know. Well, there's a couple of guys. I do know about the Justin Theroux sweatpants thing. There's a Theroux theory, and there's a Don Draper, you know. Oh. What's his name?

Yeah. Jon Hamm. Jon Hamm? Jon Hamm. Jon Hamm. There's a theory that Hamm's letting it hang. He's got the hang, Hamm? Again, I don't know if it's true. I'm just saying.

Is this a slippery slope? Like, first you're not wearing socks, then you're not wearing underwear? I'm just saying, I think the best reason for underwear is that you're trying not to like give the, you don't want to give you the outline unnecessarily, you know, but I'm saying, I don't like that guy painting paintings. I just don't think he's got anything. He's just got just pants, shirt, shoes. That's it. Maybe a hat. That's all Mark's wearing. He's not wearing underwear. He's not wearing socks. Because it's just like, I don't have time for that. I've gotta paint. The thing that I've done with these shoes is I've worn them without socks a few

times. And my feet have stunk, but every time... No, my feet have sweat, but they haven't stunk. Yet. Yet. Maybe there's a material in there that's... Maybe I just put powder in the shoes. I've got powder. If I get some powder... Od shoes. I've got powder.

If I get some powder. Odor eaters. Not a sponsor. I think maybe I'll try that. Because I just want it so bad. And I still don't know why I want it. Have you dealt with the powder before? No.

Okay, well. It gets under your toenails and stuff? You put the powder in the shoe. And then you shake the shoe. And then you look in the shoe and you're like, the powder's gone. The powder's not gone. The powder has gotten into the crevices. You put your foot in there, and you begin sweating.

Initially, the powder absorbs the sweat. And then the powder is like, I'm still here, right? And so the next time you put powder in, and definitely the next time you put powder in, now the powder's like, we gotta go somewhere. And it'll become like a little ball of powder. Ew. That's got sweat in it, and it's just a little nasty little ball. And I think you... One ball?

I think maybe it might be multiple. Because I've got a couple of... Like down there at the toes? Because I don't have room at my toes. No, so like hiking shoes and shoes I've had for many, many years that I work out in and stuff like that, those are the only ones that I have to do the powder in. And sometimes I look down there and I'm like, I couldn't put my foot into this shoe without a sock. I wouldn't dare.

Because your sock keeps going in and grabbing the powder and pulling it out and gives it a way out. But if your foot goes in, I just think that's bad news. It's creating some sort of a... Putty. Putty, yeah, yeah. I think it's creating a putty. Ew, gosh.

And none of this is curtailing my desire. You still want it. It's so strong. Like, maybe I could just have the foot stink. I mean, I take a shower every morning. I do scrub my feet directly.

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advance. See Uber app for details. But I wanted to tell you about something that occurred on my date night with my wife. There's multiple levels to this. Give me a second. Okay. Okay. Jesse and I went out to eat on our date night, as we do.

We checked into the restaurant. We had a reservation that was made by Sarah, who's been working for us for a little bit here. And that'll be key in a second. So we check in, and the woman checking us in, the host, looks us up and says, ah, date night. And I was like, okay, are we really giving off

like married vibes this hard? They're like, you know, Tuesday night, restaurant, 7 p.m. reservation, we come in, obviously it's date night. So I just chose to take it as a compliment. Yeah. Tuesday is also our date night, by the way. I think you moved to Tuesday so we could sync our date nights. Yeah, well, again, I make a lot of sacrifices.

I didn't ask you to move it. I think Tuesday is a superior date night. It's the least amount of people at a restaurant. Yeah, because mine was... You can't do Monday because sometimes they're not open on Wednesday. Mine was Thursday, and I do agree. Tuesday is a better day because when it was Thursday, then the next night you also did something fun,

and it was too much fun. Too much fun together. You got to have early week fun, and it's easier to get a reservation. Yes. Now it feels a little less happening. I'm not interested in that. If you're interested in that. And so we sit down and it was, you know, we put our order in and it was like the waiter, well, the waiter was kind of weird.

You know what I'm saying? He was acting a little bit strange, saying things a little bit unusual, but he was also European. And so I was like, okay. Gotta let him have it. Is this guy just European? Could be.

Or, I hate to say this, is he a fan? That was the next thing I thought because sometimes, okay, we've had the privilege of having enough people recognize us for what we do that it isn't uncommon for a waiter or someone in a kitchen to be a fan, and then we find out. And one of the ways I usually find out is the waiter acts weird for a certain amount of time. Yeah. And then at the end of the meal,

they say, by the way, big fan. Right. And I like it when they just tell me up front because I don't like to be in this, are you weird or are you a fan? And I'm not saying that, don't say that the wrong way. I'm not saying that Mythical Beasts are weird.

I mean, a lot of you are, let's be honest, but we are too. We embrace it. Yeah. Hey, you speak for yourself. I'm weird too. mythical beasts are weird. I mean, a lot of you are, let's be honest, but we are too. We embrace it. Yeah. Hey, you speak for yourself. I'm weird too. I just spoke for myself. And so, I just never know what it is.

And I also hate to think this, because it is an incredibly inherently self-absorbed way to navigate the world, is like, this person acting this way because of me? And so, when that starts happening, I'm like, I don't even like thinking this. So I'm just not, so I'm going to just assume he's a European guy. You know, he's just a European guy. And he says, would you like me to just bring this stuff out as it's ready? Or do you want to do it in a certain order? And we're like, as it's ready. Not interested in the order. And

so he brings some things out. Now, we had... You don't want to get your mane and then get a salad, but obviously... Stay tuned, friend. Oh, no. So we had ordered this side that was a braised kale. It was sort of like collard greens, but kale. And they can charge more if they call it that, I guess. But we also had an entree-like thing that was a big piece of meat

that was obviously the entree. And somewhere in the middle of the meal, they brought some, like, everybody's doing this pork belly. Everybody's got a pork belly course, and they brought it. We didn't order it, and so he sits it down and says, the pork belly,

and I was like, oh, oh, we didn't order that, and he was like, oh, I'm sorry, and he takes it. So then they bring the entree, and the only thing left is that braised kale. We finish the entree. 20 minutes pass, and then I tell Jesse I'm late.

They forgot. They forgot about the kale, and it's fine because we're both full, and also it's kale. You know what I'm saying? It's just like we want to end this evening on kale. I hail no. So then he comes up with nothing, and he leans down and whispers into my ear. Yes.

Only. And he says, don't worry. There's something else coming. Okay. Then he walked away. I'm like, again. You must have looked worried. At this point, I told Jessie, I told him,

she was like, what did he say? I relate it. And she said, well, he's gonna bring the kale. And I said, I said. It wasn't a kale whisper. He didn't say anything about the kale. He said, something else is coming. And he said, don't worry.

Right, but you were worried about the kale. And so I told her, I said... You know when somebody's whispering about kale. I said, he's a fan, or the chef is a fan, and they're bringing something else special. Don't worry. They're bringing... The kale is long gone! Yeah. Okay? Five minutes pass, he comes back with the kale. My ego cracks, takes another hit. Crumble.

But as he sets the kale down... Your ego was brazed. He leans in again. Another whisper. And he says, there's something else coming. Don't worry. This time he didn't say don't worry, he just said, there's something else coming. Don't worry. This time he didn't say don't worry. He just said, there's something else coming.

That whisper I gave you first was not in reference to the kale. I'm telling you. See, there is something else coming. Not the kale. He is a fan. First of all, I'm on a roller coaster ride at this point. I'm up, I'm down, I'm up. Are you European?

And so then about ten minutes later, he comes back. After you ate the kale? Oh, we ate the kale. How was the kale? It's kale. Okay, yeah. It was as good as kale can get. At that point in the meal.

But I knew there was something else coming, so I was willing to eat it. Because it wasn't going to be the last taste in my mouth. The last taste in my mouth. The last taste in my mouth was gonna be this grand gesture of sweetness and appreciation of all the work that I've put on the internet. We have. Yeah, right. Well, I was the one there at that point.

Where's Link? And he comes back and he sets down a dessert. That you didn't order? It was beignets with some sauces, and there was a candle in one of the beignets. And then he says, happy anniversary. Happy anniversary. And at that point, he said the thing I wasn't prepared for.

You know, I was prepared for Big Van. Or something like that. I wasn't prepared for Happy Anniversary. Neither was Jesse. And then he walked away before we could say, it's not our anniversary. We actually don't want dessert. We're both kind of full.

But you know me. I'm going to eat it. I like a good beignet. Jesse was like, it's a donut that you can charge more for. Well, here's what Jesse says. Jesse's like, we got confused with another table that is having an anniversary. They also had the pork belly, by the way. Right.

And she says, we need to tell them. We need to tell them that it's not our anniversary because anniversary couple, they're not getting anything right now. They got jack shit. Don't worry. You're not getting anything. We've got their beignets. I've eaten all of them. By the time she finishes making her point.

I've eaten all of them. Did you blow out the candle first? Of course. First thing I did. It was lit and all. Yeah. And so then I'm like, baby, we can't. No.

I said, this is their mistake. You know, they'll figure it out. Anniversary couple, we'll figure it out. But then, so then we text Sarah because Jesse was like, did you tell them something when you made the, did you tell them that it was our anniversary? Because she's a little bit of a jokester. Maybe she's like, oh, they'll get something free if I say this. And then she was like, I just told them it was a date night.

Date night. And I was like, okay, yes, you said it was date night. That's why the woman said date night. We weren't giving off the married vibes. And somehow date night got turned's why the woman said date night. We weren't giving off the married vibes. And somehow, date night got turned into anniversary, I think. That's my theory.

But anyway, no, no one was a fan. He was just European. Nobody in the back was a fan. No one had any idea who I was. They just thought I was a man on his anniversary. Date night. And I took full advantage.

Don't have the lesson. That was a roller coaster. That was an emotional roller coaster. Man. At least the last thing you tasted wasn't braised kale. Yeah. It was really good kale, though. But you always got to say, the answer's always,

well I want this in the order. You know, in the right order. Well, I didn't think it meant we would bring this side 20 minutes after the entree. I just thought it meant we might give you a salad and then get... Why on earth would they even ask? Do you want this as it's ready?

Well yeah, cause I want it to be hot. But then I also don't want to eat kale as dessert. Because by that, if I had said yes, I would have been waiting 40 minutes for the entree just for the kale to be done. And then it might would have been cold. Or I would have lost interest, you know? Hmm. Would you like to hear about interstates? Yes, I totally forgot.

I don't know. I was fascinated by this. You're going to blow my mind about interstates after all this. Now, first of all, you, Link, and you listening, you may already know about this. I didn't. I never thought about it, and it was a little bit mind-blowing. Now, I got this information from a TikTok as I get...

I learn everything from TikTok, but it was really from a YouTube video. I shop on Instagram. I learn on TikTok. It was really sort of a redux of a CGP Grey video. This is a YouTuber that does these explainer videos, very well researched, funny, informative. So you tell me, when I say something, you're like, I already knew that. Or no, didn't know that. And let's see how hard I blow your mind. Okay. Okay. First things first. East-west running interstates. I have nothing to prove, and I never do. Okay. All right. Listen, that's not what I'm asking. East-west running interstates always end in zero.

And north-south running interstates... Hey, Jenna, don't give me the answer. Jenna knew that. Jenna knew that. Okay, did you know... And then north-south are always ending in a five. Major interstates. North-south, well, I know 95 goes north-south, and I know that 40 goes east-west. Okay, so you didn't know either one of these things. No, I did not know those things.

And did you know that the placement of these interstates is in a grid across the United States? So as you're going east-west, you're stacking horizontal interstates on in a grid across the United States. So as you're going east, as you're east-west, you're stacking horizontal interstates on top of each other, starting with 10, and then 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90. And they basically represent the percentage of the way they are across the country. So 10% across the country, 10, 20. Now, it's not exact. Huh. But if like 90% away, you're up north, then you... And they're not exactly to a grid like that, but that's kind of what they're going for. And the same goes... 5, not east to west.

Well, I guess that's not how you read. It's like reading. It's just like a grid. Well, I just have this predisposition because I always go towards the west because I started on the east. But no, it's just like it goes up as it goes right and it goes up as it goes north. And the country was developed east to west, so I thought that as the interstates were developed, they were probably, because the interstate system didn't come about

until we had gotten all the way to California? I guess not. Or did they rename them? It's a pretty recent thing. What was the president who did it? Was it FDR? I don't know that either. It was basically for the military.

It was about the military being able to get things across. So you can kind of, if you're hopping on an interstate, you can kind of know, oh, if this is an odd number. Or is it, did you say fives or odds? Fives. Fives and zeros. I've only scratched the surface, my friend, but the major interstates end in fives.

Okay. Now. Because I know 85 goes down to Atlanta, but 95 goes down toives. Okay. Now... Because I know 85 goes down to Atlanta, but 95 goes down to Florida. Right. So most of them go all the way across the country. So like 40 goes from California to North Carolina, right? It goes...

And I always thought of it the opposite because that's where I... And then 95, I believe, may go from Maine to Florida. They don't all go all the way to the farthest state. But most of them get almost all the way across the country. They make that trek. Sometimes, because the country isn't this big grid, they'll, like, meet at a city. Like, I think it's like 75 and 85, like, meet at a city.

Okay. You know, but there's one. I think it's like 75 and 85 like meat at a city. Okay. But there's one. The only one I know after 85 that goes vertical, well, I know the five. I guess we know the 15. I don't know what 25, 35. 75 goes through Knoxville, Tennessee.

Okay, so yeah, I don't know that one. Right, so 85, this is interesting because 75 and 85 actually cross each other. It's a weird thing. So 85 goes from Petersburg, Virginia to Montgomery, Alabama, but it also crosses over 75. And in one case, there is an interstate 45

that doesn't even leave Texas. It goes from like two major cities and it's kind of at a diagonal, but I guess it could continue on forever to the north if you needed it to, but like enough roads go up there where nobody lives. Okay. Like I said, I'm only getting started. So far my mind is being... Lightly massaged?

Lightly poofed. It's being poofed. Like just breathed heavily upon, but not blown on. Yeah. It's not being whispered to. Don't worry. The reason that was mind-blowing to me

is because it feels so obvious once it's pointed out. And you're like, well, of course. Of course that's the case. It seems like I would have inferred it. How have I lived and traveled on all these interstates? I've done the full 95 and I've done the full 40. Yeah, but that's...

Actually, in the same year, I did both of those and still didn't realize it. Well, that's because with either one of those, you'd never encounter another... Another one. Technically, you crossed all of them. Yeah, if you're on 40, you wouldn't have encountered another horizontal, but you would have encountered all of the verticals, give or take. But you would have not thought about it, because you're just following a GPS and you're not thinking about what you're crossing. Right.

But, okay, again, I was just getting started. Those are the majors. Interstate minors are always three digits, okay? And these last two digits match the major, right? Yeah. If the first, so in other words, like, you got 440, you got 540 in Raleigh, right? If the first... But those are both circles.

Uh-uh, they're not. If the first number is even, it reconnects back to the major. So 440, which is often, which is a belt line, but it also connects back. If the first number is an odd number, it's a spur and it does not reconnect back to the thing. So 540 actually doesn't connect back to 40, and that makes sense because 540 goes down to Fuquay or Holly Springs and doesn't get back to 40. You know what's actually blowing my mind at this point? The fact that you

majored in civil engineering. You took at least one course. Oh, I made an APS. Which is about nothing but traffic. But it was traffic. It wasn't interstates. We didn't talk about this. We didn't talk about international. You did a whole course on traffic, and you didn't talk about the interstates?

Actually, we had to... I think we had to engineer the 64 bypass as our project. But I was just like, oh, that's the number. No one talked to us about that. Okay. So those are the minors, but... But 540 is eventually going to be a complete beltline around Raleigh. No, it's not.

North Carolina. No, it's not. I thought that was the plan. And then they're going to have to change it from a five. Five means it never connects. Back. As is always the case with everything, there are exceptions to every single thing that I'm saying. So yes, there are some evens that reconnect.

And I don't know if it means that if 540 does eventually connect back to 40, they'll change it to 640, but they might. I don't know how it works. That's a lot of signage you got to update. But technically, they plan when they put even an odd number, they are planning for this to be a spur and to not reconnect. Okay. But I'm still not done.

There, of course, are duplicates of these things because all along 40, you've only got nine different ways to go off of 40. And you've got all these states you're passing through, so there's going to be multiple 540s throughout the nation, right? And in some states, there's like CGP talks about this in the video, but I think Maryland has like every 95 except 995 or something. It's like, oh, you could have just added one more and you would have had it.

Okay. Now. And Jenna, you're not surprised by any of this? You're like, mm-hmm. She knows it. Yeah, my dad trained me how to find my way around without GPS. He'd get me lost on purpose when I first started learning how to drive and be like, find your way home.

This is such a dad thing to do. So I know all about, like, that's why at 405, you know, 405 is going to come back to the 5 at some point. Like, yeah, that's why out here people are so surprised when I don't have my GPS on when they're in the car with me. It's like, oh, well, I know where I'm going. I'm going this way. Right.

And the thing is, is that this is not only somewhat useful in modern times, but this would be very useful in the end times. Oh, if there's a huge earthquake in L.A., I know exactly what I need to do. Right. I know exactly all the roads. You know exactly where you're at in the country. Would your dad just drop you there, and then he would leave, or would he just be silent in the car? He'd be silent in the car. Okay.

Would you be blindfolded? No, it was when my brother and I, we had our learner's permit because we're twins. So my brother would be in the back seat and I would be driving and my dad would be in the passenger seat. And he'd just be like, all right, find a way home. And he'd just sit there and would only yell at us if we made incorrect choices in our braking or accelerating. But he just let us get lost. And you you didn't know this was that he was going to do this it would be like at random times yeah it would be at random times he'd say we're gonna on an adventure we'll find let's find a new way home find a different way so so i'd have to learn different ways you had to learn to you you

learn to be very vigilant while you were riding in a car. Yeah. It's like, I mean, my kids, yeah, it's like. Oh, their brain is off. Whenever they got their license, of course, they just start. You know, I had to. The most dad thing I did was teach them where to put the phone with the GPS on it so that it wasn't unsafe. Like, I felt like I was doing my dad-ism at that point.

That's the best I could conjure. It definitely helps. When I went camping once, because I am vigilant, and even if I have the GPS on going to a new location, I still kind of look around. I'm like, okay, this is here. This is the road, blah, blah. And I was leaving this campground once, and none of my stuff was working. Zero. Couldn't figure it out.

And I literally just retraced my steps. And it was like three days after I had done the route, and I just literally just retraced my steps, and it took me about 45 minutes to get service back. And I just went back the way I came that I remembered. Now, the one thing I do know about interstate is that the mile markers are markers every mile. Yeah. Smartly.

That's smart. Okay. Last piece of information here. So I've given you the majors and the minors, right? Yep. There's interstate mediums. So these are numbers like 64, 29, and those...

I thought those are just highways. Well, I didn't say highway 64. I said I-64 or I-29. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Interstate. You still have to have the I. Still in interstate, it still has the little blue and red with the crown at the top. So I'm not talking about Highway 64, which is like the black diamond. Yeah. Interstate 64 or Interstate 29, these would be, they would fall in sequence.

So 29 is going to be between 25 and 35. But because it's a 9, it ends in a 9, it's going north-south. If it ends in an even, just like the majors, it's going to go east-west. So the odds and the evens

always correspond to which direction they're going. But then that first number, 29, it would be the 2. Okay, we know that that's going to be between 35 and 25. 64, I-64 is going to be between 50, I mean between 60 and 70.

But they reserve it for shorter interstates? Yes. And there are many duplicates of these because now, so it might be that like all along this little corridor in between like 35 and 25. Right. You would have the option for a 29, but it might be, well, there's a 29 here, and then you go a few states,

and there's another 29 here. It doesn't necessarily mean that they're all going to be connected. Gotcha. And these are, according to that YouTube video, these are all in the same sequence except for 99. I-99 apparently ends up being, I guess,

it would be to the west of 95 instead of the east of 95 because it feels like it would be almost all the way. It would be like right along the ocean. Interestingly, the highway that is on the ocean, the highway that is on the ocean, they call it Highway 1, but that's different because it's not I-1 in California. But it was almost like they were kind of like, it was like an homage to the numbering system because it was a 1, right? Just found that interesting. Because isn't it Highway 1?

Yeah, but does it go interstate? I don't know. I don't think so. But interstates don't have to go interstate. They can be intrastate like the one, like 45 in Texas. So anyway, man, I just blew your mind. I mean, you definitely breezed it. You definitely breezed it. It's fresh.

Now that when you see the interstate and the number, you can be like, there is a convention. There is a reason for this. That, again, isn't always followed, but there was some intention behind it. It's just not random. Hmm. So during the zombie apocalypse,

you will be able to traverse across the nation and know, oh, okay, we just ran into 65. Let's go left to go north on it. You know, it's interesting to be living, breathing, and navigating within something and then realizing that it all makes sense on a continental scale. Well, it doesn't make too much sense. But it makes more sense than nothing. It's a lot like the English language.

Oh, there are plenty of exceptions. I'm just saying. We did our best. You didn't blow my mind, but you strangely gave me a sense of comfort. Okay. And that's really what I value. So I can go drop you off in the middle of nowhere

and be like, find a new way home from Kansas. I'm never leaving home without Jenna. I'll just put it that way. Just take me on all road trips. I know where to go. Well, it's kind of in the job description. Yeah.

Happy anniversary, guys. How many throwbacks can I make at the end of this? Well, we need a rec from you. Oh. My recommendation, I totally forgot what it was. What was it? The top of this thing. Talk about shoes you can wear without socks.

Of course, I'm not a sponsor, but this, I got these flip-flops. They're called Archies. Australian-based company. Is that what you're wearing? No. Okay. They're actual flip-flops. They're flip-flops that support your arch in a way that I am addicted to wearing these. I wear them in the house. They're my house shoes. Because they're good for my feet. My physical therapist sold me on them because if your foot is not pronating, if it's leaning in and you don't have

enough arch support, then it messes up your alignment for everything. At least that's what they say. But I'd worn these things to the point where they're virtually indestructible. But I wore them so long and so hard that I finally popped the flip-flop. Rest in peace, Jimmy Buffett. And I gladly bought another pair. The thong popped? Yep, the thong popped. But, I mean, it's been a couple of years of literally wearing these things every day.

And they're just really... I got flat feet, so they're good for the feet, and there ain't no sweating in a flip-flop. But if you're going to wear a flip-flop all the time and you don't want to be in your middle-aged plantar fasciitis stage, get yourself some Archies. I can vouch for these puppies. Okay, well, thanks for joining us for another Ear Biscuit. Remember that you can take part in the conversation yourself

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it's Ashley from San Luis Obispo, California. And I have to say that I haven't even gotten to the important part of the most recent episode of Ear Biscuits. And Link's talking about

his dream about fighting Rhett, and I just love that they're both like, oh, it's never happening, it's never happening, and then proceed to immediately get into an argument about who would win. That's, that's, uh, that's Rhett and Link for you. Thanks, man. Love you guys.