Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Rhett’s Friendship Terms | Ear Biscuits Ep. 498

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

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Shop before they're gone, in-store online at sephora.ca. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast, where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long, time I'm link and I'm red this week at the round table of dim lighting we are on the sixth to last episode of ear biscuits before an indefinite break six more including this one yep and this is the one that's going to suck to help you suck dear listener come to grips They're like to agree that, you know what, it does need it. They do need to take a break.

This one's going to be intentionally bad. This one needs to be intentionally bad because I feel like for the past couple episodes, I've been trying to be bad just to make everyone more comfortable. Like, you know what? I think I'm kind of over ear biscuits. This is a good strategy if you need to break out with someone. Just be a dipshit for a little bit. If you can't be honest, just be a dip shit.

And they'll be honest for you. I've been trying to be such a dip shit, and it just goes full circle, and I'm just... It's like free samples at the ice cream shop, you know? I'm dipping, but they keep wanting it. Okay. That's why we put a limit on the samples. But there's no shit in our buckets, dude, is what I'm saying.

Our buckets are full of sorbet. Speak for yourself. But this is gonna be the one. This one's gonna suck. Okay, well, let's see if we can do that. Suck, sorry? Let's see if we can suck so bad. Man, I mean, based on what I know about internet content,

if we suck more, it'll just work better. I'm sorry to be that guy. Cynical. I'm just sorry to be that guy. But when was the last time that you, graft quality and popularity of content on the internet you will see that there is an inverse relationship there's a reason why things are popular rep popular is undeniable quality is very subjective popularity is measurable quality immeasurable that's your opinion maybe you're the

problem. Yeah, I'm saying it's my graph. I'm just saying that according to me, what I enjoy and what everyone else enjoys, there tends to be an inverse relationship. That's all I'm saying. Your taste. And my taste, as far as I can make it, determines at least 50% of what we do. Right? And at most, at least. 50% exactly. I'm just saying maybe a little bit less, sometimes, maybe a little bit more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes it's... So what I'm saying is that what we make is based on our tastes

and what we like is based on our tastes. Yeah. So we should just be a couple of dipshit's if we want to be popular. Yeah. I'm agreeing with you because I think that's... I'm trying to make this... I'm trying to make this podcast suck. Right.

Yeah, you're doing it. It's working. It's working. I think they're fighting. We can do that, too. Well, we do that. That happens anyway. Yeah, that doesn't, that hasn't led to anything negative.

Yeah, boy. Let me silence my phone, because, boy, it is blowing up. Who's talking to me? Brandy Carlisle has a presale starting today. my iPod My things that go in my ears My ear pods They're missing

They're last scene They've been left behind Well What else? Ask Kirk Cameron That can be a good thing I'm reading my notifications Is this going to do it?

You know what? You know what I got in the mail yesterday Speaking of those D's nuts The new AirPods, the threes. You ordered those? Yeah, yeah, like, why would that scare you? You ordered those?

What, um, what do they offer? What is it? What is them have? Well, I've got the number, I've got the twos. I guess that's what I have. And they're good, they're great. Battery life is not what it used to be on them. You know, after repeated use.

But I got the new ones because I kept seeing people talk about them on the Internet, and then people are demonstrating these, the translation feature. You know, it's live translation. You go to another country, people speak a different language, and it just translates it for you. Oh, yes. You don't know about this? I don't know how well it's going to work, but I didn't know it was in AirPods. Yeah, and I was like, I just feel like I got to try this.

So you... It has some other things like... It's a switch you turn on and then... Supposedly the best noise canceling in history. How do you... Like twice as good as the previous noise cancelling. Oh! And how do you talk back to people?

So you understand them and then... If they have AirPods, it translates it for them. You both have... It's just like two people having an iPhone. Could you put one in their ear? No, that would confuse it. Well, you would... I'm going to need to learn how to say in Japanese.

Because we're planning Lando's big 16th birthday-versary trip to Japan. And this is huge. Well, this is soon. Hopefully you've planned it. That's over Christmas, isn't it? Yeah. You've planned it all. I haven't planned it.

I have plane tickets, and I'm about to get hotel tickets. You are cutting it close. Well, don't make me nervous. You're flying way too close. to the sun. Well, I don't think it's closer to the sun than here, because it's right, depending on the time of day. Maybe you'll be okay.

I mean, Japan's a big place. I mean, there's a little bit. Hey, don't make me nervous. We got this. Okay. Only thing I need to learn in Japanese is, may I put my air pod in your ear? Yep. And then everything else is taking care of.

I don't know a lot about Japan, but I think that might be culturally insensitive. if you were to do that. It might be an... Well, I'm asking a question. American thing. I'm not just putting it in their ear. I'm putting this in your ear. You might even get on the news.

There's an American going around asking to put his ear pod in people's ear. I also just don't think it'll work because it's the same set. It's translating Spanish... It's translating Japanese to English for you. It'll be doing it in their own ear. So it's not going to be helpful for them.

They'll hear themselves talking and they will hear it going into English because that's what's happening in your ears. And first of all, I don't know how well this works. That's their problem. And, by the way, it's not, it's going to be translating into French because I did, I do know a little French. Yeah, you want to make it familiar.

And I want to have a bit, I want to have some challenge to it. I want there to be some sort of like cultural barrier. It might as well be a French one. Another cultural barrier. Let's put a French cultural barrier between me and my Japanese. There's a man going around Japan. asking if he can put his air pod in your ear so that it can be translated into French.

He's American. No, he doesn't speak French. He just took three years of it and Harnock County Public Schools. We're both going to be hearing French and not understanding it. So we'll be on a level flaying field. Yeah, a flaying field.

Live from the flaying field. Hell, ha, ha, ha, baguette. I'm just gonna, here's, I'm just gonna, I'm take, what I'm taking issue with is that if this was the college boys trip, which you and harm are the ones who make the decisions about like the accommodations,

it would have so been figured out months ago. Like if we hadn't figured out where we were staying on a college boys trip and it was literally six weeks before we leave, you would be flipping out. I don't understand how this happened. This is what I'm taking issue with. Well, we have a travel agent. Okay.

And she says this is okay? I don't know. She hadn't said it's not okay. I mean, when we were making plans for Croatia, we were using a travel agent as well. And they said, and it was, it was like eight months, seven months ahead of time. And they were like, you better hurry up because all the good places are being taken. It's like, oh, God.

There's a lot more places. There's a lot of places. And maybe over Christmas there's not that many people there, tourism. I'll let you know. It was going to happen. I mean, you could go to one of those hotels where you just get in little slots. Sleeping pod type thing? Yeah.

That's what Locke did recently when he went there. I forgot he went there. Yeah. He just slept in like a nothing, it was nothing but a bit. It was a slot. Yeah. He and his friends. Because it's, you know, it's cheap.

They're doing, I think it's less than $100 a night or something. So you could do that, save a little. And there was probably like a still. place, a lounge area, you could just sit, probably, but communal. Well, there's a place you can put your stuff. When you're just a shared bathroom? I think there's a little drain in every pod.

No, it's not coughing. Yeah, shared bathroom. Communal bathrooms. You can do that. That would be a good experience for you and your family. Oh, God, they're gonna love that. So we have a bucket plan. It's gonna work out.

Do you say it's gonna work out? I think it'll work out. I'm just surprised. that it hasn't been planned yet. Maybe I don't understand Japan. It's being planned. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. I mean, we were looking at hotels last night. I think there's availability. Hold on. It almost didn't suck there for a second, but it still sucked. Yeah, two guys just talking about whether or not there's availability of hotels. Yeah, that's not good.

Why would you listen to that podcast? Yeah. There's so many other podcasts that are better than this. Yeah. Which is what we did. You remember, we won a best podcast award one time. We beat Radio Lab. Yeah, and that's what we said.

And we got up and we did a speech and we said, our podcast is not better than Radio Lab. And Al Roker, who was the one who presented the award, he was like, well, I've never heard a acceptance speech like that. You know, we were deferential. We're keeping it real. That night, DJ Khalid was in the green. room and we were going to meet him I mean I didn't know anything about him but I knew

that he I had heard the name and apparently he was being a diva and I didn't know anything about him but then I was watching Sean Evans being interviewed by someone recently about something and they I don't know if this is a recent interviewer if it just popped up in my feed but they were talking about the DJ Khalid episode which is infamous you know this is first season of hot ones and it's where DJ Khalid bows out after the third wing even the first wing is like man it's spicy and then he totally cops out of the thing and Sean just kind of lets him have it the whole time and it because it wasn't established that yeah you can't go on the show and I'm just gonna say you combine that episode that episode

of Hot Ones with my experience with DJ Khalid in the green room which he ended up he didn't want anybody in there I think he wanted his own green room

there was only one green room and he wanted it to himself because he was DJ Khalid there's other celebrities including Al Roker who were there and not even talking about us I'm talking about Al Roker

but then you combine that with a third data point about DJ Khalid is that he once bragged about how he's just how he's just how he doesn't do Cunningus. He bragged about it.

Oh. I mean, first of all, if you're a man and you're bragging about not performing Cunni Lingus and you're not gay. I'm just saying, like, obviously, if you're gay and you're like, I mean, but I'm just saying, it's redundant. I'm just, I just, this is not something to brag about. This is, yeah, that alone makes me not like you. But combine that with bowing out of the third wing and then hog in the green room to yourself. That was a whole thing.

The Cunningus thing, that's a whole, I don't know, you know, it's a whole thing, or it was at least, in certain male circles. I think it was a bragging right to, I don't know, it was very wrong-minded, I agree, that, but I think it was something like, I don't know, the idea behind it was I'm not going to, you know, I don't give pleasure. I receive pleasure because I deserve it or something. Well, that's not a good love. That's even worse. No, I think that's the other reason it makes it bad is because that's always been a part of it.

I'm saying I'm judging a man for not liking it. That's what I realize that's wrong. Everybody, do you do you, whatever? I'm just saying that I'm letting you know I'm being vulnerable here. If you're a heterosexual man and you don't like eating, then I judge you. I judge you. Okay, I openly judge you.

I think less of you. I don't think I would want to be your friend. I'm just being completely honest. I might be wrong. I'm just being honest here because I'm trying to make this podcast suck as hard as I can. You're not wrong. This does not make the podcast suck. Yeah.

Just make it. You're not wrong. And I'm saying if you dig even deeper. We skew female. Yeah, we skisanship. It gets worse if you dig deeper. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

Then it becomes about like refusing to give pleasure to somebody. Yeah, that is worse. The digger you deep, the get its worst. Yeah, I'm just talking about preferences here, you know. Like, if you don't like pizza, I don't like you. You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, we got to have some standards for who we let into the inner circle. Okay, so, like, you've got, you don't like pussy, you don't like pizza?

Those are your question? You can't be my friend. Is there a third piece? I mean, what are the three things to be friends with you? To be friends with you. Pandas. How could you not like Panda? Like if you, legitimately, if you don't like pussy pizza and pandas, you can't be my friend.

Unless you're gay. Unless you're gay. And then you have an exemption. Right, but you still got to like pizza and pandas. And you have to like them more. Okay. You got to make up for it. Yeah.

You got to make up for it if you're gay. What, is there another P that you could, if gay, there's a fourth P? Hmm. I mean, I guess pickles. That kind of work. Pins. Pins. I mean, if you're gay, you have to like, well, hold on, then this is weird.

They're a penis? Not penis. If you're gay. That's redundant. And Red doesn't care if a gay man likes penis. Right, because I just know that's the case. I mean, you could be, I don't know, I'm sure there's gay men that don't like penis. There's every type of person.

There's all kinds of per pieces. And that's not my point. That's not my point, but it could be. Right. And you don't have to like everybody. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying you're a bad person if you don't like pizza. I'm just saying you can't be my friend.

That's, I can't, everybody can't be my friend. No, you know what I can't? You're just not enough, uh, so what is the P for gay people? Pins. So hold on, in order for you to accept the gay friend, they have to like pins now. That's, I mean, a weird byproduct. I mean, you gotta not, of this exercise. You can't not like them.

You can't just have a distaste for them. But it seems like you're holding gay, gay men to a higher standard to be your friend, is all I'm saying. I think it needs to be, pickles is probably good. Pickles is too polarizing. Yeah, but you can't be friends with all gay people. But I need more gay people in my life. I don't want to, I don't have a pickle exception.

But that, but there's a lot more people that like pickles than pens. So at least we're headed in the right direction. Like we currently don't have a gay couple that is like, that comes to game. night, you know, when we do like a game night. Like, I don't know how, what mistakes we have made that that has happened. I mean, it's a pretty small crowd. But like, what happened there? What did happen there?

I think you, we, I think your relationship drifted with, um, your, the, the, the gay friend that did come because maybe he didn't like pens enough. Well, that's complicated. Yeah. You brought it up, though. That's complicated. There's nothing to do with him. It was other factors, you know.

Yeah, it had nothing to do with him. And it wasn't a couple. It was just, I'm talking about a couple. I like to deal with people in pairs. All right, I'll be on the lookout. I think on my walk, I know a couple of gay couples on my dog walk. Okay. I'll work on that.

But I'm going to have to ask him about the four peas. Do you like pizza? Do you like pandas? Yeah. And do you like pickles? A pens. I don't want to cut pins is too high of a standard. It's got to be low.

It's got to be like walks on the beach. Yeah, but nobody, lots of people. Pedestrian. People like, they dislike pickles. Pedestrian crosswalk. But pens is kind of lights. Like, do you, hey, are you gay? Do you like to cross the street at a place where a flashing light

comes home when you hit a button? I like that. That requires a lot of context. Do you like, are you gay and do you like walking across the street? Let's just keep it at the two things, Panas and pizza. Gay people only gotta like two things to be my friend. It's easier to be your friend if they're gay.

Yes, I'm lowering the standard. There you go. There you go. Yep, that's good. There you go, we figured it out. I don't think you should try to be friends the gay couple. I think you try to be friends with one of them. Not the whole couple. That's too high of a standard. Just because they're both men doesn't mean they can both be your

friend. Well, they could be lesbians too. Well, no. That's my thing. Well, you don't have, I mean, I don't have, I don't have a lesbian couple in your, like, tight friend group? No, I don't. I'm going to, I'm going to work on that, too. It's very disdistance. ingenuous of me. And I'm sure that there's gay couples, lesbian couples, you name it, I bet you they need more straight white men in their lives. This could be a win-win.

Well, I will say this. I will say this that I've seen a lot of people on the internet talk about how they don't want straight men in their lives. You know? I get it. And I understand that. Like, people are like, I don't have any room for straight men in my lives. I'm like, okay, well, I mean, I, you know, I'm looking for people who like pandas and pizza.

That's what I'm looking for, you know? So, pins and, I'm available. Pins and Pins. I'm not an asshole, you know? I'm quite pleasant, actually. Do you like penis? Pizza? And pandas?

And as a bonus, pins, well, you can be Rhett's friend. at a discounted rate Right, yeah You know Yeah, right What's my What are my three things? Oh God

You ask? Well, no, I didn't Why didn't you ask, dude? Well, it seems like we were figuring out What I was about? Well, we did Okay What about me?

Well, but this all started with What did this start with needing more friends? I'm saying, oh, don't be your friend. I have a lot of friends. I have a love... Start out with DJ Khalid. Yeah. But like, I'm just saying that... The problem is you don't have enough friends. No, I think I got enough friends.

And not in my opinion. But I think I have a... I have plenty of friends. I actually... I need to do the opposite. I need to start weeding people out. I have more close friends than the average male my age. Okay. I agree with that. And I just feel like if I had that many more... Like, I, you know, I got, like, once you start really thinking, I got people that I do one thing with. I got a guy I play golf with.

Mm-hmm. You know? I got another guy I kind of play golf with, but he's, he's, but he travels a lot. So that hasn't happened recently, you know. And then I got the people that, like, I would invite to a birthday party, which I guess is a smaller group. You have enough friends. There's not gay enough. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at.

But what I'm saying is like, where do you draw the line of like somebody doesn't like this? Well, I'm just trying to think what my things are. Well, start with the thing, start with what they, if they don't like this, it pisses you off. Because that's how you find your first P. Unwrap Holiday Magic at Holt Renfrew with gifts that say I know you. From festive and cozy fashion to Lux Beauty and Fragrance Sets, our special selection has something for every style and price point. Visit our Holtz holiday shop and store or online at Holtrenfrew.com.

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the conversation this is your podcast join me every Wednesday follow and listen a free range with me Vaughn Miller everywhere you get your podcast well we recently

we recently did we kind of did this for me now that I'm realizing it we did a version of this we have a good mythical morning episode I don't think it's out yet it could be out where

we did dating show format and I tried to find a new, oh yes, well, not a new best friend, a backup best friend, hosted by you. So it was very gracious that you were trying to help me find another friend. I don't want to give away with friend I chose. I want you to watch the episode, but... Have you been in touch with this person?

I don't know if they cut this, but the realest question that I asked, not yet. Of the panelist behind the curtain that I couldn't see. And they may have cut it because it might have gotten a little too. real. I wanted to know if they had any young kids in the house. I just am not a point in my life when I need to be friends with people with young kids. I just can't. I can't. We're not, we're at different places in life. I can't be friends of somebody with with young kids. It's too, it's too hard for you. Yeah, I was, I recently, Jesse and I went out to dinner with a couple of

friends that are mutual friends of ours and they have kids that are a little bit younger than hours, but they are now old enough to be at home alone. Yeah, the youngest might be, what, 13, 12? Yeah. And they said two things. And I never understood that we had this influence on them. They were talking about me and Jesse and you and Christy. And they were saying that we learned from you guys that we can leave our kids at home.

Uh-huh. Because I do think that there is something with this generation of parents that are helicopter parents and overprotective that they think that like I can't leave like if you if you've got two kids one of them is 16 and one of them is 11 yeah you can leave them alone you can I mean there's a law I mean let me just be honest we did a lot younger than that just going to be I don't know what the age was in which we left lock and shepherd home like to go out on a date but you know I think if one couple couple we'll be back in two hours depending on their personality I think if one of them is 12 or older, you're in the clear.

Can we look up the law, the California law on this? Not like leaving them alone like for the weekend, but I'm saying like to go out. Yeah, like. Because the other thing that was a part of this conversation was not having kids at get-togethers. Not when you, because we set that bar really early with our friends. And we didn't think about it that much.

We were just like, hey, if we're all getting together, we're not all bringing our kids. Somebody's like, our kids are right? I'm like, no, what? Because we want to have fun. What the hell? This is interesting. In California, there's technically no legal minimum age.

A child can be left alone, but it says that social workers suggest children should be at least 12 years old before being left alone. It's up to four hours. There you go. I said 12. That's what I thought. Even in California, they leave it to the parents. Who would have thought? It literally says, consider the child's maturity and assess the situation.

So I always thought there was an age. I did, too. Yeah, it's interesting that, I don't know. But I don't, I don't want, I just don't want to be friends with your little kid. And I'd rather not have to talk about all the challenges you're facing because I'm done with us. And I also forgot.

And I forgot. Like you start asking me questions about young kids. And you start asking me questions, and I don't, I have, nothing to, I can't, I don't have, I don't have, I don't have accessible experience. Well, one of the, and then I get down on myself. I'm like, am I that bad of a dad? No, you're just forgetful. I forget to. I don't remember. I don't remember what I did, but I did a damn good job. Well, let's be honest. We did a lot less than I was. Christy and Jesse did awesome jobs. They did a lot more of it. That's the other reason we don't remember any of it because

we were. That was the, that was the grinding years. When our kids were really little was when we were working harder than we ever have worked um i was telling a guy we got coffee with a guy yesterday and he's our age but he's got a kid who's like seven or eight and um i was like dude you you get to be such a better dad because he seems self-conscious like once we told him how old our kids were this is a conversation we have a lot with acquaintances in l. where it's like you got kids like yeah I got three. One's out of college, one's in college, and one's, you know,

and a sophomore in high school. And Brett has kids too? Yeah, they're right in between my three kids. I was like, what the? And then you come back from the bathroom and we've had the conversation. You're like, oh, yeah, no, he's feeling. You can tell this guy felt dejected.

Right? He's like, man, I just have this seven-year-old I'm trying to deal with. And I'm like, dude, listen, here's the silver lining. You have the capacity to be such a better dad to your seven-year-old than I was to mine. I was trying to make it feel better.

But I do believe it. I was like, you have more time on your hands because you're successful? I assumed he was successful. I mean, he was meeting us for coffee. I mean, who's got time to meet us? He's about to be. No, what I mean is who's got time to meet us for coffee if they're trying to grind and make something happen? We didn't have time for that.

Okay, that's true. So I was like, you're successful. You have extra time on your hands. You can be such a better dad. You're mature, you've got more life experience. You have perspective on how beautiful it is to usher a child through their younger years of life. I had none of that. And what I did have, I don't remember, but it was great.

You had more than that. But also, I was just trying to make him feel good. But we were younger. But I'm not going to be as friends. because it's like, am I going to invite him? Well, I got a seven-year-old. Can he come? No, your seven-year-old can't come?

I mean, we knew less about, I would say, I definitely knew a lot less about myself and my challenges and was much less in touch with, like, my emotions or whatever. And so when they were younger, I definitely wasn't as emotionally mature as I am now. Hopefully I still got, you know, a long ways to go in that regard. But the thing, and we were working harder. You know, we're, we're, I think we're, I think I'm, I feel like I'm working as hard as I can as a 48 year old man. But I do think that we pulled all-nighters back in the late, late 20s, early 30s. Right.

Like that was still kind of a regular thing. And also, we didn't have help. We had like one person at a time. So we were doing a lot of the minutia. Mm-hmm. So I do think there was a little bit less left in the tank. sure for kids but he was talking about

in his early days he would go to be working on some project in Arkansas and go out to be in Arkansas for two months you can't do you can't we never did that the longest we were ever away

from our families was two weeks I think that was the maximum limit that we put on it yeah it was like we and that wasn't regular that was maybe once a year

right kind of thing so you know to make you feel better vicariously, because I think your kids would probably say the same thing. I was having a conversation with Shepard the other night. And we were talking, I was asking him some questions to see how he might be prepared for a series of circumstances that he might find himself in, let's just say. We were just having a conversation about, if you find yourself in this situation, what would you do? There's just one of those like talking to your 17-year-old kid to see how their brain is working.

Right. See if it's online yet. Like if you put your head through two slats in a staircase railing system. And you can't reach your phone. And then you can't get your head out, but you can't reach your phone. Stuff like that. What are you going to do? That was the exact scenario that we were talking about.

How do you know? And he when I asked him this... The only person that can help you is a drug dealer. And I asked him this question. And he said, he was laughing. He laughed at me. And then he said, Dad,

you did a lot better job raising me than you think you did. Aw, really? That's so sweet. Because he's like, I got this. I'm fully cooked. Is that way he can't? But in a good way. What he was basically saying is the questions that you are asking me

indicate that you do not trust me or trust my discernment in this particular scenario that you have given me here in the kitchen as we stand late at night. Okay. And he's laughing at it because he's like, I know what I would do in that situation.

And the fact that you don't know that I know what I would do in the case that you don't understand how good of a job you did raising me. And I was like, well, he turned that back on, you masterfully. That was pretty good. He said, get off my back

in the most complimentary way possible. He could just be totally playing me. He's, I mean, it's brilliant. I mean, you've taught him well. Like the level of manipulation that you didn't even know you were experiencing, you've taught him well. Right. That is great, though.

But I said that to encourage you. Okay. Because I feel like your kids would say the same thing. So I need to try the same thing. I need to, like, insult them with hypotheticals and see if they come out and say, you've prepared me so well for everything. Well, no, it's just like when we were getting ready to, we were sending Lincoln off. It was a senior year graduation party, and we were all sitting in the room.

and he's getting ready to go off to college. And everyone is giving him advice. You know, it's just like, it's a very sweet tradition that we have amongst our closest friends. We do invite, so, yeah, see, we do invite our kids over for things. But only when they're, like, 18 and ready to go to college. Yeah. When they're adults.

And everyone gives them a piece of advice. And Mike always goes last because it's always the best. Yeah. but everyone did this and I and I know I personally I feel like I'm really I'm bottom wrong this is like one of my you give me time to go prepare for something I'll bring you something but you like say say something of encouragement to this child it'll be like I don't that part of my brain is a black hole and it has not developed no matter how hard I've tried but we are all giving advice to um Lincoln

to Lincoln, and then the expectation is at the end of this, the child, Lincoln, will say something. And he just said, he was like, he's like kind of dug deep and he was just like, I just want y'all to know that I'm not an idiot. And it was just like, hold on. Literally, that's your child, Link. What do you mean? That's what he said. Did what we said?

make him think that we thought he was an idiot? Apparently. I think he was just saying that, like, I know y'all might be worried about... Son, if you go to college and you find yourself with their head stuck between two rungs of a ladder. Don't panic.

Yeah, you should be encouraged, you know? We should all be encouraged. But we're definitely not going to invite you over. In fact... We're very proud of our kids. One of the things that I've been doing lately, speaking of not being friends with people, is I've actually been, you've observed this,

I've been reaching out to people who I know from the internet whose work I enjoy and connecting with them. I got one coming into town this weekend, you know. Yes. I'm glad to hear that, see that. And so I'm kind of making those connections. And there's a couple of people back in North Carolina

that they're in a field that I respect or would like to connect with or whatever in a field of entertainment we'll just say and I was like oh they're like they live really close to where our place is in North Carolina and then I start looking up and it's like

oh she just had a baby and I'm like close the laptop I'm sorry I just can't that's a different stage of life But does she like pizza? You got a baby? Wait a few years.

So that's a trump card, man. It's like, what's the P for? If you just had a baby? You need to be with people who just have babies or don't have babies. So do you like pizza, pussy, and what? Pandas. Pants. Pizza, pandas, pussy.

Caviot, you haven't in the past 10 years procreated. You don't have a child under 10. You don't have a child that you can leave alone. 12. I mean, we agree on this. So we're going with 12. Right. You can't have a child.

You can have children under 12, but you have to have one that's 12 or up that they can take care of them. The next kid that I'm going to interact with willingly is my own grandchildren. Like, that's how I think about it at this point. I don't need anybody else's kids in my life. Well, hold on, maybe, I mean, my niece is... are, well, yeah, I got there, well, back in North Carolina, I got a niece and nephew, they're younger, and I, I love them, and I, and I, that's different, that's family. That's family. That's different. Yeah, I don't want to throw my family under the bus. Just like you tell you your kids. I mean to even go there. I'm not going to hang out with you until your child is 12. No, I'm going to be the godiest grandfather. I know, and we actually have, we have, Jesse has a close friend who's a, you know, a close friend of the family who is with child. and we'll have a baby probably in January.

And she's like, that baby's going to be over here a lot. You're going to be holding this baby. And she's like, and you, it's going to, she knows how I am. Jesse's telling you this. Yeah, she knows that, like, I talk like this, but then you give you, the baby is in my presence, and I will be, you know, I'll be. Doting on the baby. Yes, my heart will break.

But as long as I don't see the baby, I'm okay. You know, I don't want you. Don't bring your little cute kid around me. I don't want to see it. It's avoidance. Now, so you're talking about reaching out to people and you're infiltrating your fields of interest. Infiltrating is not the right word.

But, you know, I would like to think that I've maybe inspired you to do this because of my own infiltration into my area of interest. I don't know if you've noticed. Yeah, oh, yeah. I think many of us have. People are noticing, they're calling it my side quests. I'm starting to, I'll post some things, it'll be like bizarre meetings. And I like the idea of having a, like, a bizarre sidequist.

I think when people see the people that I am connecting with, they're like, oh, that makes sense. But for some reason, it's always a surprise when they see you with the people that you're connecting with. Because I am infiltrating the world of hip hop. Right. And I, no strings attached, just a fan. I'm not trying to be a rapper. I'm not trying to make YouTube content with anybody. Now, yeah, do I throw out my credentials?

It sounds like you do. Well, so there's a good mythical more that's now out. We've been waiting for this to come out. We wanted to talk about it specifically here at the Roundtable of dim lighting because I think it's, well, I know that it's, well, I know that it's, a conversation that we would have had here that I decided to tell you about it on the Good Mythical Moore episode as an example of how things are going to be you know yeah I've you know I've wanted to save save this story for that so I don't know what they're calling it it's

probably something about like did did link completely embarrass himself in front of his musical hero or link meets the alchemist and it's doesn't go well or I'm sure there's some sensational title but it's basically just the story of me having my first meeting with hip-hop producer and rapper extraordinaire the alchemist and let me interject just for those of you listening or watching so again this is a good mythical more and I don't know what we ended up calling it but this is the challenge I'm just gonna just talk shop with y'all for a second the challenge with taking this kind of content and bringing it into good mythical more is that because it's not called we tried new snacks

or some version of we tried new snacks and it's link embarrasses himself in front of his hero that title is much more of an Ear Biscuit's title, right? I'm not saying that we don't do things. If we were only concerned about views, then every single episode, without any exception, would be us eating food and we would do it in Good Mythical Morning and we would do a Good Mythical Morning, and we would do a Good Mythical More.

That isn't our only, getting views and sustaining this business is not the only goal. So we do a lot of other things that we know we're not going and perform well, right? As well. As well. We hope that they will perform well. We see the people talking about,

I wish you did more of this because that's what I like as a fan who watches a lot. And we take that into account and we try to find that balance and that balance is probably not where you want it to be, but it's where someone else wants it to be.

It's also not where someone else who disagrees with you on the other end of the scale wants it to be. So it can't make everybody happy all of the time. But I'm just letting you know. But it's pretty close to where we want it to be, but it is a constant, it's a constant tension to keep it where we want it to be. I would like the balance to be less food.

I agree with that. So we've, we're living in a tension. We go between this. Okay, if you take five episodes, right, five episodes of GMM. Let's just talk GMM for a second. So you take five episodes of GMM. So right now, three out of the five are food related. Yep.

Sometimes one of those fourth or fifth ends up having food in it, even though it has nothing to do with food, but it has food in it, and then that's translated into the thumbnail because algorithm. Yeah. We, the two of us, pushed to go to two episodes, two food episodes, so two out of five, so a minority of episodes. And we did that for like a season or two.

That's right. And that season did not perform well. right right and again we that that that is a factor because how well it's it affects everything about our business how those perform because it's not just the ad sense revenue but the average view count that you get on a video is how brands that work with you judge how much they're going to pay you right and we're not like trying to sit around and be uh scrooge midduck around here like swimming in cash what we're trying to do is we're trying to have a sustainable business and so That balance is that three, right now it's a three out of five. Hopefully that can get back down to two out of five, but what it takes is it takes the people who like the non-food episodes to show up. That's what it takes. It just takes you to show up. So what I'm going to do now is that the standard for Good Mythical More

is not as high as a standard for Good Mythical Morning, right? It doesn't have as much engagement. But we want to move these conversations to Good Mythical More, but what we're asking you to do is to show up. We're just asking you to show up. It's like, you see one of those episodes that's not food-related. And you're like, oh, Link's about to tell a story that would have been on your biscuits. Watch it, click on it, share it, you know, comment, like it.

Do the things that cause it, juice it a little bit. Juice it, baby. I think, I'm so glad that you're talking about this because that's what we want to do. I do think that, like, getting a level of cooperation from mythical beasts is helpful. and for them to understand how we think about this. I will also add, and I guess ask, that no matter what the title of the Good Mythical More is, our objective is to create an environment of unpredictable conversation.

And like, surprising delightful, surprising and delightful conversation, which is, you know, a big part of what I'm going to miss from sitting at this table is just the being able to goof off and say things just not knowing what's going to come of it. And it's, I mean, is it a comedic exercise? Yes, but it's a creative exercise. It's fun to do that. And there's a challenge there. And there's a dance. And I think that's the energy that we bring to every single episode of Good Mythical More, especially as it evolves. So what the team helps us with is they give us a task or they give us a concept that is a way in. It does something for us, and it does something for the algorithm, and it does something for a potential viewer.

So it draws people in because it's an understandable title and thumbnail that you might think you would be interested in the scene. And then... So we're going to be doing that quite a bit. It might be tasting snacks, but if I've got a story that I don't think is a clickable thing, but it's just like I did this dumb thing

and I need to tell you about it, I'll tell you that story while we're tasting snacks. And you might just seem to watch Good Mythical more in order to know that that story happened. And about halfway through, we might just abandon a snack. If we really get on a roll. Right.

But if we don't get on a roll, then we at least have the snacks as something that's kind of like a spine to the episode. It gives us a sense of structure that we can deviate from. So I'm actually very excited about Good Mythical Moor becoming even more of a playground for different things, some of which we talked about here, you know, the potential for maybe throwing in a voicemail here or there, like all that type of stuff, you know, it's all just floating out there and we're seeing, but I guess to get back to what I was saying about this episode, I took video of me meeting Uncle Al for the second time. Now, the first time I met him, I didn't take any pictures of video.

It was at a concert, and he was standing, like, off the side stage, and we had, like, what you might expect to be a forced and not as, brief as it needed to be conversation. But this one was documented. My point of view, I'm filming, and I ask you to, like, process it and give me feedback on how bad was this? Because this interaction meant a lot to me. And I get, I mean, I think it was pretty funny.

I believe so. I think that our conversation was pretty funny. I got a kick out of it. My feelings weren't hurt, but... Oh, I'm sure your feelings will be hurt in the comments. I'm saying that the fictitious world that people create in the comments will be one in which your feelings were hurt. Oh, but they won't be.

Right, I'm just saying that... People will think that my feelings are being hurt, but no, I subjected myself to an analysis for the sake of the comedy of it because I knew it was ridiculous. And it's fine. My two friends can't wait to see it. The ones who were, they were like, just send me the video. I'm like, it's not out yet.

I'm just let you know. Because they were laughing at last. Your fantastical delusion, okay? I encourage it because it helps with engagement. I am feeding, if you have a fantastical delusion in which Link has constantly made fun of and his feelings are always hurt, I encourage you to continue believing that

because it causes you to comment and comments help. The whole point that I'm trying to get across is that we need your engagement, right? I'm in charge of putting things up for... ridicule is too strong of a word, but that's the exercise. Well, that was your idea. That's exactly what I'm saying. And just let you know.

That's exactly what I'm saying. If you play this video, and I didn't know what was gonna happen in the video, but I already knew that my angle was going to be, I'm going to make fun of him and make him feel that this is he did a horrible thing. Because that's funnier. Yes. It's funnier than me saying, you know what, you should feel great about this.

Right. You should feel fine. Unless I was doing that as a sarcastic thing, because again, I'm, I may not be as funny as you want me to be, but I'm trying really hard. That's what I'm trying to do. Right. And I, and I, I also, no, but I also appreciate the people, the, I always, again, you go to the Reddit, you go to Reddit more than I do. But I do go over there quite a bit, and I will get called up, so I probably end up seeing most of the conversations. And there's always the conversation about what we're talking about.

And then there's a person who comes in and says, guys, guys, it's entertainment. They're entertainers. And it's just so interesting to see that I don't, I'm not, I'm not saying, hey, we're entertainers. I'm saying, believe what you want to believe, just because it makes the world a beautiful place. You know? Because you believe what you're going to believe because you're going to anyway. You're going to anyway. I think it's really what you're saying.

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I went to the Freddie Gibbs Alchemist, Alfredo II tour stop in downtown L.A. I should have gone both nights. And I was gonna go both nights. And then I freaking... Christy... I don't know. She thought it was fun.

She thinks it's funny that I'm such a fanboy. Why would you go both nights? That's what she said. I'm like, because I'm a fanboy. I want to be there. Like the first night, I wanted to get the VIP record and not have to burden my friends to get there early. And then I was going to go in early and I was going to stand.

I was going to be at the rail. But I didn't want to go with my friends that I bought tickets with and ask them to show up and stand at the rail for three hours. that's what it would take I mean doors open at 7 you mean the front of the thing yeah yeah yeah the front of the state

it's a nightmare you have a stadium pal so you can pee in your leg so I didn't end up doing that and I only went the second night and because of the experience I had I wish that I would have gone the first night because I didn't get to watch I was distracted from the show

kind of I didn't have any connections okay so I just showed up and to watch the show. And we were in the middle of the crowd. It's like there's no seats. It's all standing unless you're in the balcony.

So I was down there and we were like right in the middle, having a great time. Except when Freddie finally came out, there were these two guys. And they started yelling, sell us some crack, Freddie. sell us some crack like what is that he has a reputation for being a crack dealer yes that's part of it

in a past life in a past life yeah I don't think I don't think he's in the game anymore he's one of the best rappers on the planet he need not sell crack right but you could do it for fun

but he did say God made me sell crack so I'd have something to rap about. That's a famous line. Well, you know what? Depending on your view of the sovereignty of God, that's true. Exactly. See, you might, you might get into this too. You might get into some Freddy, see? There's existentiality to it. Is God allowing something, God making something happen? What's the difference if he's in charge of everything? See? And when I'm... Is God the author of sin? If I meet Freddie again,

I'll ask him now. I say, my friend's got a question for you. So I didn't realize it, but when I engaged with the sell-us-crack, Freddy, guys, there was a larger contingent of people with them. And I was just being friendly. I smiled, I said something. I was like, I don't remember what I said. It seems like a key point to the story. But I didn't, I was, it was affable.

I was, I wasn't reprimanded a guy. I was like, and I didn't say anything about crack. I was just like, we're here together. This is after they said, sell us some crack? But maybe I gave him a look, like, what the hell, dude? Maybe I did give him a look. And then there was a woman there who then pushed me. And I said, I'm sorry, excuse me.

And I just thought I was in her space or something. but I wasn't touching her before she pushed me the how was what was the push like it was with the elbow and she was looking forward and it was just like like get away but I I come to find out I think she was with that whole group because then my friend started I turned around and he was taught my friend was talking to the guy and then I'm back into the show and then I turn around my friend's still talking to the guy and then I'm like I turn around a third time. And it wasn't like a triple take.

This was like over the course of like maybe two songs. And I'm like, that dude's still talking to my guy. I got to get my guy back. I was like, hey man, let's enjoy the show. And then I took my friend and I was like, what's going on? Why do you keep talking to him? He's just like, I'm, he basically said, I'm diffusing this situation between you and these people.

And I'm like, what? He was like, but it's like, he's like, everything's okay. And I was like, all right. And then a few minutes later, he was like, let's go get a drink. And let's, my friend was. So the three of us, we started walking out, out of the crowd. And I knew enough of the people. I talked to other people around me too.

I'd made friends with people, you know, I'd made connections. We were having a good time except for that group. And so then when we leave, kind of hasty, He's like, yeah, let's just, you know what, maybe we'll find another place. So I think it was... Standing room only? Yeah, you can just move somewhere else. And as we were walking out, somebody comes up to me and they're like, we've been looking for you.

I'm like, what? It's like, well, you found me, he's like, it turns out he was a photographer for the tour. And he said, I want you to come back to meet so-and-so, and I didn't hear who he said. And I was like, and he like showed me something on his phone and I couldn't, I didn't see it, didn't see what he's name, but all I knew was I was like, yes, going backstage, I want to meet somebody. And he's like, hold on, I'll get, I'll come back for you.

So then we hung out in the back through another song. Are you going to go back to the first situation? Yeah. Were the guys? No. So you don't know what happened there? Yeah. It was, you know

It might be good for you to figure out what happened Yeah, I got to talk to my buddy Yeah, I gotta follow up with him What did I say to this guy? Because how was I misinterpreted? Right, yeah, I think that there's, yeah I mean, I think for your own benefit That would be good to know

Okay, yes, I will let you know Yeah, well, don't get mad, I'm not, I'm just not saying I don't, it wasn't my fault These guys were shady contingent And they don't like it when you look at somebody looks at you wrong I bet you that's what happened okay um and i would have gotten the story but the adventure just continued he was like wait here i'm gonna take you backstage and then he comes back and he's like yeah let's just let's so we start

walking to the side stage the concert's still going on i'm watching the concert while i'm getting like pulled to the side and then he's like yeah just come back it only be a minute i was like well i'm not going back without my guys and he's like and he puts the thing on my wrist and i'm like well i'm not going back by my guys and he was like well i don't i was like okay hold on i'm like well listen just come and get me when the show's over because i'm missing the show and i didn't come last night like i wanted to but i would have come i would have gone alone and then who to hell knows what would have happened true so i'm learned that's a good lesson to learn and um so i watched the whole show and then he comes back and can take me and my buddy's back and we go to the back stage and um

the first guy I meet was I think Anderson Pack because he brought out Anderson Pack for the last song which is it should be Grammy nominated it's called Insolada I played it for you salad a lot of is a salad it also sounds like it's a lota oh which is a lot of something okay and uh so very good song surprise for him to come out at the end he was dressed like chucky from child's play for Halloween so he's walking out and then I talked to him and I didn't talk to him that long but I didn't say anything to offend him he was happy good He gave me a hug.

Did you talk to him about how he was almost on the show? No, I'd forgotten that. He probably wouldn't have known. I just told him that I was a fan and how popular I was and he needed to be my friend. Now, I didn't say that, but that's kind of the subtext, you know, it's like, maybe you know, maybe you know me. Okay, you don't. I'm a fan. Somebody's taking pictures of us right now.

So, maybe this is the start of a friendship. How did that go? How receptive was he to that? I didn't say any of this, Rhett. Well, you think I'm crazy? I'm not going to say any of this out loud. Well, I've been there sometimes. Yeah.

I mean, you've said a version of that. Some, yeah. I mean, if you look at the video of me meeting the Alchemist, that's kind of, the evidence is there that I did say something. You do lead with, you know, I have one of the... I have the most, maybe the most. I don't say that. I have one of the most.

I say I have a YouTube show. It's popular. I might say that. Yeah, okay. Popular YouTube show. I'm still workshopping it. But the point is, listen, let's be real. You're backstage and you're meeting somebody who's famous.

What's the first thing they're doing? They're like, they're not thinking about, if they're thinking about me, the only thing it is, who the hell are you? Right. But do they say, hey, I'm a popular musician. Because I'm going up to them. I'm going up to them.

Okay, okay. You know? And, I mean, someone is taking our photos. Right. I'm just saying. Someone's taking photos as it's happening. I actually didn't know that was happening until afterward. The photographer sends me all the photos.

That's what I put on Instagram. Right. And if you'll notice, all of the photos are candids. Okay. Because I didn't know he was taking the pictures at the time. Everything he captured was a real interaction. Oh. Even Landau.

Even the laughing? Even the laughing. Oh. See? Okay. Because a lot of times the laughing won't be candid. Right. I've been known, if I know somebody and I see that they're taking a picture at a party,

you know, we'll pull that trick. It's like, let's do the JZ thing where you do the fake laugh. People are going to think we're having the best time ever. We did that with Maddie Matheson. And it works. Great. And it is a, it's a Jay-Z thing to do. So it can't be wrong.

He also sold crack in a previous life. Yes. Okay. Absolutely. Okay. I don't know the lore. So anyway, it happens to the best of us, you know? We sell crack and then we get successful in another way and we leave that life behind. Yeah.

But we do what we can for those that are still in the game. Everybody has their own background. You know, it depends on where you're from. We go on Stafford Campus Crusade. Some people sell crap. and then you kind of all just end up at the same backstage party. Yeah. You know, it's like we, I worked a summer in a tobacco field,

and now I do what I can for the smokers. Yeah. No, I don't, but. We had an anti-vaping message. What is my point? We had the Surgeon General on GMM to have an anti-vaping message. Do you talk about that? That's what I was telling everybody that guy.

You could lead with that. You could be like, hey, I've met the Surgeon General. He was on my show. It was an anti-vaping movement. that probably won't go over too well yeah vaping is not big in that in the hip hop community

okay it's not real enough I don't think it's it's just not you don't really see vapes okay so it's just a straight smoke situation I think it is yeah you want to taste the poison

I've seen a lot of that I smell a lot of that okay um Then I met Earl sweatshirt shirt, Earl sweatshirt who, I mean, the given name? That's his given name. He's a talented dude. You don't even know what you're missing out on until you get some Earl sweatshirt in your life.

And when you get some Earl in your life, you're going to be like, what? What? Am I missing? And it's like, yes, you were the problem. Just remember, when you give, when you let Earl's sweatshirt into your life, No matter what you think at first, you were the problem. So you need to adjust. Okay.

And got some pictures taken there. I didn't love those pictures because there was a guy standing, not in between us, but behind us, in between us. And he didn't look interested. AI his ass out. I know he had AI his ass out or something. But all the other photos were great. And Freddie comes out.

and I talked to him for a while. Big, big hands on that guy. Crack selling hands. Yeah, he could hold it. He could, he could stir, he could put the fork in the pot or whatever they do. He can grab the fork. Right, yeah.

In the pot and do the stir or whatever. Well, that's making it. Selling it. Selling are two different things. Yeah, I think you want to be making it. Yeah. Really? Yes.

You want to be. You want to be, you want to have the fork in the pot. You don't want to have, you don't want to have, you don't want to be on the street. Okay. See, see how much I can teach you? I don't think that's right, though. It's right. You want to be making it.

You don't want to be, you don't want to be the one selling. Is that from a lyric? You want your person, you want your people selling it. You don't want to be on the front lines. You want to be insulated. I mean, you want to be counting the money. You want your thumbs bloody from counting the money. Yeah, that's what, I mean, that's what, I mean,

That's kind of what I meant with crack selling hands. It's like big hands and hold lots of cash, but you're not the literal person making the drugs. You got somebody working for you making their drugs. Oh, even that? Yeah. Like a bunch of naked women in a room? That's Escobar, yeah.

Something. I know less about that. I didn't talk to him about any of this. Good. I think I said something alluding to, I was the first person he talked to when he came out. Not because I was trying to ambush him, but I was just there. This is how I, like, stand next to the kitchen at a party,

so all the hors d'oeuvres come straight to me. Yes. I learned this from you. I'm going to be right next to this door. He comes out of the door, boom, I'm there. I talk to him. But then I'm like, I'll let you make your rounds. We'll catch up later. I was kind of insinuating.

I'm open to hanging later if you want to be friends. but I didn't use those words see I'm getting better at this okay we didn't hang out later but how did the conversation go well you can you can look at the pictures and you can see the progression the first picture

I'm looking at him and he's looking at the camera as if to ask who the hell is this second picture he's staring at me I'm staring at him we're trying to size each other up I think the third picture he's like oh oh most popular show most popular show on you i don't know what i think that's what

he was reacted to and then there was another one after that that was like huh yeah it was something a little bit different and then uh then there was the face off photo where i think i was about to grab his face and he was about to grab my ass i can't tell what was happening What was happening? I did see that one. Your face is very close. I think we were going in for a hug. But then you decided to talk.

But I was also talking while going, I was whispering in his ear while I was hugging him. Saying what? I'll be around later if you want to hang out and be friends. I don't remember what I said. It was, it was high pressure, dude. You know, when you go into a high pressure situation, and then when it's over, everybody's like, you did great.

I'm like, I don't remember any of it. Hmm, okay. That's how it felt. And then? I talked to, I saw the alchemist standing over on the side, and I had a decision to make at this point. I'm like, am I going to bring up our previous interaction from what was no more than three weeks earlier, you know,

that according to your assessment was not a, stellar performance on my part right so i decided when i went up to him i wasn't going to leave with that i was like clean slate let's just i'm just gonna start over and so i just talked to him i said it was a great show um happy belated birthday they said that from stage i wasn't stalking him but i did know It was his birthday already, but I had cover of that being said from stage. You know, he's from here. I'm like talking about, like, a great hometown show. And then he's like, I remember you.

And I'm like, that wasn't me. This is me. This is me. Okay. How did that go over? And then I laughed. And he laughed. And they were taking their pictures

And I have this memory of us having the best exchange ever And I think More to come, you know Did you really say that wasn't me as a joke? No, I didn't. That would have been a good joke. It would have been a good joke. I don't know what joke I told him that made him laugh

But I think it was... I think I was talking about how Not you, but how Christy makes fun of me For being such a fan. I know I talked to him about that. but I didn't have any records for him to sign, including the VIP record that I went early to get. I paid extra money to get a signed copy exclusive to the show.

And when we moved out of the crowd, where the shady folks were, I had propped up my bag with my record on the column, on the shelf next to my topo-chouchev. and my beer and I had when I left I had the topochico but I didn't have my record I lost my record a few questions okay you're going to you are going to a concert and you're setting your drink down somewhere this is a whole like do you understand how the world works you think someone's gonna roofie me yes yes yes

And then what? Sex me? Do whatever take me backstage? The world is their oyster at that point. Hold on, any... I got my two friends with me. Hold on, there are people who, as a policy, are looking for a drink like that.

Just, they don't even care. Not as a target, not to target you. Just to fuck with people? Yes. I'm going to rob you. I mean, to be fair, they already did rob you because you left your... Yes, somebody.

Because I went back for it and it was gone. Yeah. They put the, they roofied the day. drink, both of them, by the way, and then they wait. No, the lid was on the top of jica. Okay, the beer. And then they wait and see who drinks it. And they're like, okay, well, I'm going to go up to this guy.

That's what people, yes. Like, I'm not saying it's a guarantee that it's going to happen, but you just, as a general rule, you don't leave a drink out at a concert. I don't want to get you. Or a party. I don't want to get you upset here. That doesn't have all your friends here. I was standing next to a column and there was a little shelf and I put the record, the

tote bag with a record in it there. and then I put my beer here and I could reach out and keep grabbing the beer and the Topochiko. Okay. All right, but, all right, point taken. And didn't the, doesn't the record,

you have a bag for that stuff? I didn't bring my own bag. I'm glad because I would have left that tube, I guess. No, you probably would have kept it on. But it was a, yeah, I didn't know if they would let me bring a big-ass record bag into the venue. But I think they would have. next time that's what I'm going to do and if I would have had that record I could

have got how much of that record costs or is just an extra ticket part of the ticket I think I paid $170 for the it was a exclusive record signed by Freddie Gibbs and which would then sell for about that much I'm not going to resell it but if you were to whoever whoever stole it from me is going to resell it it for you know it could be $150 and then there was a there was a notepad that had a spiral bound notebook that had handwritten lyrics in it but they were it was the notepad was full of all the lyrics from the show so I'm like this is printed but it's he handwrote the lyrics and they printed it in a spiral bound notebook which is really cool that got stolen too yeah

Wow. I was really, I'm really, I woke up. When did you realize this happen? After I met Freddy and then I was hanging out backstage, I remember and I was like, and I went out there to get it, and they were cleaning up and your friends might need, I feel like I might need to give your friends a little like a pointer session to know what it's like to hang out with you.

I mean, I know that they've been friends with you for a while. But like, yeah, I mean... As soon as you set your record down, I'll be like, don't do that. You're going to forget it. I mean, you know that's what I would have told you. I know. That's why I don't take you to these things because I'm too much of a burden on you.

They're a good example to you. They're just like, hey, dude, that's your problem. Yeah. But he did help talk... He made sure I didn't get my nose broken. So when it mattered, he stepped up. Okay. One of my friends.

My other friend. The bigger one. They were kind of upset. about the record because when we were at the previous event, I was with them too when I met the Alchemist for the Good Mythical More thing. And I bought records from him. And then I had to carry them around the rest of the day until he did his show. So there were many times when I would ask them to hold the records for me and they got uh they got they got they got a their patience was thin with holding my records for me well yeah yeah so i don't think they were in the mood to

make sure i didn't lose this record but freddie and i are going to be friends okay all and i are going to be friends i'll just ask them to give me a record once we're like buddies i'll tell them this story. Yeah. You might have to tell them because I don't know if they're going to listen to this. They're not.

Because this podcast sucked. It sucked. I mean, we didn't even get to a question. You know what? If you want to... If you want our... Yeah. We made a clue game

with Hasbro. This is an official clue game that is mythical themed. and it's really cool it's one of the coolest things that we've ever made and you have only way you can get it

no you can't you can't buy it you have to be a third degree quarterly annual member of the Mythical Society to get it now speaking of that while we're talking about things that is another thing that you may have started to notice in terms of

you know you earlier you were talking about conversations where anything can happen yeah um you may have noticed over on the mythical society that there is more and more of that kind of thing as a perfect example of this right after good mythical evening i was very hungry and suggested to link that we stopped by macdonalds for a late night snack and then we did so and then i was i was game for that and you and link was still pretty tipsy at that point and we set up a phone just on the dash and we just filmed like a 20 minute conversation where Link is still very drunk and we're and he's still wanting to talk

about how things went and it was just a completely impromptu conversation more that stuff is happening on the society and more of it is coming and so again I know that that's something you have to pay for but I believe that that conversation was first degree, right? That was, you know, I think so. I'm not 100% sure. I think so, yeah. I don't know exactly what everybody gets at different tiers,

but just letting you know that, well, that's not necessary. But if you are a society member or if you've got, you know, a little disposable cash to be able to be a part of that, there is going to be more of that over there. Again, we're trying to continue to have these types of conversations. conversations in other places, because we know we are taking this away, but that's just another, that's another place where it can show up, mythicalsociety.com. Yep.

I don't think I was roofied. I had a conversation with two friends recently who believe they were both roofied at the same time. It still happens. In like a bar situation? And then in order to what were, in the, in order to steal from them? They don't know if they were accidental targets or whatever because there was a bunch of people there

and there was like a something else going on. And you start to what, black out? Like you don't really, you just basically fall asleep. Okay, right. Yeah, keep your, keep your drinks close. That's good, that's a good lesson. Yeah, don't take, don't, don't put your drink. Keep your records close to it.

Don't put your drink on a, on a, on a stand or a shelf at a concert, just keep it in your hand. Just keep it in my hand. Until you're done with it, then set it down. Word to the wise. Word to your mother. Hi, Rhett and Link and Jenna and Jamie. This is Stella from Orlando, Florida.

And I just got finished listening to your guys' announcement that Ear Biscuits is going away indefinitely. and I just wanted to leave you guys with my first thought, which was the amazing quote by Winnie the Pooh himself, how lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard. And I just want to thank you guys. I listen to you guys while I work. I drive for work, and you guys have been the best part of my Mondays. And yeah, love you guys and to, like, totally support whatever you guys need to do.

And I can't wait to hear more stories on GMM more. Love you guys. Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first? There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca-Cola for a pause that refreshes.