Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - Rhett’s Wife Jessie’s Biggest Pet Peeve | Ear Biscuits Ep. 468

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

The Amazing Jessie McLaughlin joins the show! In this episode, Rhett & Jessie are talking about their social lives, how they prepare for spring, and whether or not they code switch. Plus, if it’s okay to eat another woman’s desserts and dealing with not so great acquaintances. Get 10 free meals and a free high-protein item for life at https://hellofresh.com/hellofreshpodcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah, it's a big deal. The Ford It's a Big Deal event. Visit your Toronto area Ford store or Ford.ca today. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Rhett. And I'm not Link. That's right. It's my wonderful wife, Jessie Lane McLaughlin of

Jessie Lane Interiors. Thanks for that plug. I like to do that any chance I get. Wow. Link is still on spring break. I don't know exactly when we will release this because we don't know if we want to do two Rhett and no Link episodes back to back because people might start thinking something's up. That's right. Nothing is up. It's just we're getting ahead.

That's a lot of not Link. Yeah, we're getting ahead. I mean, Link's gonna be doing something similar when I head out of town in a couple of weeks. So, how are you doing? You're back. You're joining us again. Yeah, I'm happy to be here. We made you a little bit taller. I got a cushion. Well, I didn't get it. Jamie got it for me, and I appreciate that.

Well, because last time we realized that. I feel like you're looking at the way I'm talking. Well, you know, I think we may have had the same conversation last time. You don't have to do this. The microphone is designed to reach out and grab your wonderful voice. Well, you know, I think we may have had the same conversation last time. You don't have to do this. The microphone is designed to reach out and grab your wonderful voice. Oh, okay. So just, I mean, nope, that's too far. I mean, about, if you just, you know what,

follow my lead because I'm maintaining the correct distance. You're good at maintaining the correct thing. Yeah, I am. When it comes to all kinds of things, you will maintain some correctness, and that's one of the reasons I love you. It does get harder to maintain length as you get older, though. Maintain what? You know.

That was a sexual joke. Oh. That's your second joke of the day that hasn't landed. Okay, first of all, I believe that we will find out. Okay, let's talk about this. We're going to a little dinner party tonight and I would say that, let's just be honest, we will be the least sophisticated people at this party. And it's very clear.

However, you know, we thought at first we might have been invited by mistake. That's just to give you an idea. But I believe it was legitimate. I was on the thread and you were not. And the person didn't use our names. They just said, hey, you two, which I like. I actually really like, hey, you two.

But it doesn't help you identify if you are supposed to be on the thread or not. Right, but we determined that we believe that we were supposed to be on the thread or not. Right, but we determined that we believed that we were supposed to be invited. I mean, I'm 90% sure at this point. But then there was a little text that went out this morning that was to everyone who's gonna be there about parking and directions and stuff. And I was like, well, I'm gonna put a little joke

in this thread. Which I like, I appreciate the fact that you're keeping it a little silly. I texted after they sent the directions about where to park and the gate and all this stuff, yeah, there's a gate. I just said, how about this? We will be tandem parachuting in to avoid parking troubles. Just keep an eye on the sky around seven o'clock.

We'll be the ones with the giant ass American flag streaming behind us. I just thought that was a funny thing to say. Actually, I forgot the word with. We'll be the ones the giant ass American flag. Okay, that's why no one has responded, because I didn't put with in there. And we're going through possible responses

that I could use like, oh brother, here he goes again. That jokester. I don't think you should say anything because. But so far I've just left it. I haven't said anything. I don't know if. Because I think that's going to communicate my embarrassment enough to just not say anything. I'm confident that this was a great way to introduce myself to these other folks.

Because when I show up and we didn't parachute in. They'll be shocked. They'll be like, oh, where's the parachute? And happy. It gives you something to talk about. Love it, love it, babes. Well, thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me.

Here's what we're gonna do, we're gonna take the questions that you asked me and Link and me and Jessie are gonna answer them. So I didn't wanna do that thing where I tell everybody that you're gonna be on the podcast and then they, I wanna hear your perspective on the things that just people are just wondering in general, okay? I'm here for it.

And I think that some of these things will be very pertinent to your experience. Which camera am I supposed to look at? Pfft. This can, Jamie can take this. You know what, next, here's the thing. No, no, no, next time I'm gonna give you a brochure. You gave me a brochure one time.

Do you remember you gave me a brochure? Way tangy day. Yes, when we were dating, you gave me a brochure about time. Do you remember you gave me a brochure? Way tangy day. Yes, when we were dating, you gave me a brochure about our date. First date ever, because you seem like the kind of person that needed to be oriented. Okay, so here's the thing.

At the beginning, we look at the big camera with the two shot. Right, yeah. And then at some point. That one. Pretty early on, Jamie transitions to these individual cameras. You know. So now you need to look at the one

that's just pointing directly at you. The next time I'm on the podcast, I'm gonna come in and sit, if there's a next time, I'm gonna come in and sit just like I'm supposed to, like a good girl, I'm gonna look at the right camera, I'm gonna be the best. That won't be any fun, Jessie. Okay.

It won't be any fun if you just come in and do it completely right. All right, first question? There you go, that's right, let's hear the first one. Hi, Rhett and Link, this is Ashley from Long Island. I'm in school for veterinary medicine and I just must know how Barbara is doing on her new medication.

She deserves the world and I hope she's okay. Thanks. How's Barbara doing? Barbara, it's been a bit of a roller coaster. When we first got her on the medicine, she was like a new dog. Well, just a little background. Barbara became extremely lethargic.

She couldn't jump on the bed anymore. She was gaining weight at what we thought was an alarming rate. And we just thought, maybe she's getting old. We don't know things about dogs. She's nine. But it just seemed a little abrupt. And finally, I was just like, we keep taking her in

to the vet for these weird, she'll get weird bumps. And I was like, I feel, we keep taking her in to the vet for these Weird she'll get like weird bumps and I was like I feel like we need to do more I think we're treating the symptoms and not the problem So I asked the vet like can we you know do some tests and so they did a full blood panel and they came It came back that her thyroid had gone kaput's Right. So they said we need to start her on this thyroid medicine and you kind of have to figure out exactly what dose they need to be on. So they start you at a pretty high dose and and let me tell you it got Barbara going. Oh she was. She was running around the house. She was she bounced back. She did

she bounced back but bounced back a little too far. So then when we went in to get the check, they said, oh, her numbers are too high, so we're gonna put her on half, seemed to be fine, but then she started getting these weird dry spots, dry skin on her stomach. Did you see that? Or was that just me who saw that?

Well, I heard about it. So now we've gone down another half, so we're gonna see. Oh, so it's a quarter? It's a quarter, yeah, you didn't even know that? Well, this is a recent development. Yeah, she has a whole new thing of pills that we're, which I've learned that a raspberry, hopefully nobody tells me that raspberries are.

No, I checked, they're fine. Raspberries work as the perfect pill pocket. Now, they're a little expensive, but if you can... One raspberry. Well, yeah, but only like 10 raspberries come in a raspberry container. Yeah, our dogs like fruit. I don't know if that's a universal thing, but our dogs will eat anything, and I know there are certain fruits

they shouldn't eat, but a blueberry is fine, a raspberry is fine, you know, in moderation. You don't want to give them a, like, I'm talking one a day, like one little blueberry or one. But the pill fits perfectly in a little raspberry. Sometimes I'll squish it into a blueberry. She doesn't mind she eats it right up. Well, and the thing about this is that Sean, he gets a piece of fruit too because he's like, it's fruit time. And he just, And he knows that he's supposed to just sit there and wait. He doesn't know what's going on.

He's like, I guess we just get fruit now, once a day. And so I just say sit and he sits and he gets his little blueberry and she gets her little blueberry. They just think they get fruit now. Yeah. It would be so great to be a dog. I mean, Sean, nothing has changed for Sean.

Lots of things have changed for Barbara, but Sean is still in the place where he doesn't know what anybody really wants from him, what's going on, what we would require of a dog. He kind of poops and pees when he decides to. We've had him for what, three years now and we have been so good. Barbara rings the little bell, goes outside,

does her business, comes right back in. Sean follows her. It would be nice if Barbara would loan him 10% of her IQ points. Just to, I mean, there was two things of shit in the living room last night. Yeah, and it's not that we're not letting him out on a regular basis.

If he has a shit, when you take him out, he'll do it outside. If it happens to occur, the need to do it happens to occur at that moment. So yeah, I don't know, we're coming to terms with accepting Sean for who he is. He's just a cute little dog. A cute little idiot.

It's hard not to love him, though. It doesn't. I never get mad at him. You don't, it's kind of amazing. And I think that's part of the problem. I think it's part of the problem is that when I start talking to him about his dookies, he thinks I'm happy about it.

I'm like, oh, look at what you did. You did another little dookie, you crazy guy. And he's like, daddy likes it. Daddy likes it when I shit. I know it's probably my fault. So Barbara's doing great. She has more than fully mousepied. Well, we're still figuring it out, I will say that,

but we're definitely seeing, we're still figuring out the dosage, but we're definitely seeing a huge improvement. I've been thinking about taking some of those pills based on the way she gets up in the morning. She just barks as soon as she wakes up. She does, she's very excited, but we've also been trying to crate them at night

because we're kind of in a new phase where sleep is becoming very important. I guess this is what happens when you're 44 and 47. Suddenly you like really start. Sleep hygiene has become a priority. So we realize that the dog's moving around in the bed. And maybe there'll be a sponsor so I'm not gonna mention the specific one that we got.

We need to look into this, by the way, Jamie. But we got a thing that enables you to keep your bed cold or hot on each side, because we're at different life stages and have different temperature requirements. And I'm anticipating that becoming more of an issue at night. That's a good thing to anticipate. And this also sort of tracks your sleep and your heart rate and how much you snore and gives you a little, you get a little text in the morning about how well you slept.

Good morning, it gives you percentages on. I've got the order ring too, so I've got like double data coming at me in the morning, gives you percentages on. I've got the order ring too, so I've got like double data coming at me in the morning, it may be a little bit ridiculous. But I was like, this is a good opportunity to take the dogs out of the bed because if the thing is measuring heart rate, it's gonna be like, well, you've got two heart rates on this side of the bed, one that's slow

and one that's really, really fast. I think it might be smarter than that, but okay. They slept in the bed last night and I actually didn't get any weird data, so maybe it's fine, but I just don't think, I think it's time for the dogs to have their own life. Yeah. At night. And we're trying this because we started off

with Barbara creating her, I mean, most things, we didn't realize at the time, but most things were easy with Barbara. Things that Barbara just catches onto to, Sean does not. Yeah, Sean doesn't catch. Literally, you throw something at his face, it just hits him right between the eyes. Barbara will catch everything.

Yeah, so you know, we've started putting them in the crate together. We got a crate that was big enough. And so we'd stick them in there at night. And they've done okay going in, like they don't fight us too much. Yeah, yeah, they like it at first. But I think they don't realize that we want them

to stay in there all night long. And so they've been waking me up progressively earlier and earlier and they wake me up by banging on the doors of the crate. Well, Shawn does his scratchy technique. And Barbara has started making a new noise because she knows we don't want her to bark. She makes basically the dog version of the fire alarm

needs a new battery. Well, sometimes it sounds like an owl. Sometimes it's like, ooh. Sometimes she'll stretch it out. Yeah, so we're teaching them how to talk in new ways, but it's not been great for our sleep. So last night we were like, let's just let them sleep in the bed, and that was worse.

Yeah, we're gonna put them in a different room. I hate to say it, but we're gonna put them in a different room, and they're gonna just have to learn to be on their own. Like our kids, we should put them in a different room, Let them be on their own. Different state. [♪ theme music playing. Figuring out dinner every night can be a hassle, but HelloFresh makes it easy.

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bring coming up i've been finding myself doing a lot of cleaning purging clothes and items that i don't need and donating them that's the point and what you both do in order to prepare your minds, your bodies, your homes, everything for the upcoming spring and summer active season. Love you guys. Talk to you soon. Bye. I like this question.

Spring cleaning. Is this a thing for us? Well, it's been a thing for me. I've been cleaning out my office because I've been getting too many. I'm at this point, you know, I work from home. I think I'm at the point where I need to move to a dedicated office space because our dining room table is often covered

in just samples and mood boards. Yeah, I think this might be something that someone who doesn't, who isn't in a relationship with or lives with an interior designer might not know. I certainly did not know about these books of samples of things, like fabrics, wallpapers. You have so many, like we could cover many different things in our home with just the little samples that you have in these books.

Yeah, some people do that. Like a quilt. Yes, exactly. I've been accumulating these, but you know the longer you're in this industry, the more you have new vendors, you acquire new books, new reps. And Lindsay, who's my studio director, has told me

I'm not allowed to take any more books, kind of like we used to do with our kids. You can't take any more books unless you give some away or throw some out. So for me, that's my current problem. So I've been purging myself of those. And while I do it, I'll see what else I can pull other things out of our closet old toys from the kids that I maybe hung on to for A while, but it's like okay

They're 21 and 16 You can you can give these to goodwill I'm trying to think clothes, you know typical like I haven't worn this thing in a year and a half. It's time for it to move on. Well, you have your samples. I have my products that you seem to have an issue with. This man loves some products.

I've never seen somebody love so many. You got ointments, you have creams, you have like oils. I mean, I have all of those things. I'm a. I'm like a wizard. I have so many potions. I'm, I'm, listen.

Like the little tray, you know, the little trays I gave you one and me one by the sink to kind of corral all of our ointments. And yours never stay inside the tray. Well let me go through a few of the things that I have. Okay. And I'll just, I'm gonna tell you why all this is important to me.

Okay, for my hair, you know my hair takes a little bit of care. Right, I love your hair, by the way. And so, well thank you. And I grow it out and keep it out for you. I mean, I would buzz it if it weren't for you. We just got a call from our son who just buzzed his hair. He did, he said, we picked up the phone, I buzzed my hair.

Yeah, we know, fine. Do what you want to. Well, I didn't say that. I said, your hair was so beautiful. You know in college that you do that kind of thing. I didn't give it the good supportive mom answer that I should have. I was like, I love, hair, it looks so good,

those angelic curls. It'll grow right back. So, you know, I didn't think I would get to this point, I'll be honest with you. There was a point in my life in which I put no ointments, no lotions, no products on me other than deodorant. Yeah, that was when we were first married and dating. Things have changed.

Yeah, and I'm glad. So just a little insight into my life. So I have two products that I put in my hair after I wash it, okay? Which are like the initial follow-ups to the washing. And then I have, in subsequent days after washing, I have a little spray bottle of water and two other products that I put in.

So there's five bottles right there just for the hair on the counter. Right, but what happens, riddle me this, what happens when you get to the end of the bottle and there's like, I don't know, like this much left in the bottle and you leave it beside the sink in case you need just a little bit.

Can we come back to that? And then you pull out the new bottle. That's just my question. That's a general question. Because you said five bottles and I think five bottles is more like seven or eight bottles because some of them count twice. Okay.

That's just my hair. My beard, I've got my mythical beard balm and oil. It's two products for the beard. I've got, let's see, for my eyes, you know I have issues with my eyes. I do, I've been hearing about that. So at any given time I have, let's see, for my eyes, you know I have issues with my eyes. I do, I've been hearing about that a lot. So at any given time I have, let's see, one, two, three, four, five different things

that I put on my eyes. Six actually, six, because there's one that I'll keep with me most of the time. Well and there's also the thing, I'm sorry, I'm interrupted. Yeah, I'm still a less than halfway done. Do you want me to comment on the categories or do you want me to let you get to the end of all of them?

I would like to get through it. Cause I don't know if I'm gonna be able to remember them all. I think this is probably already frustrating for the listener. Okay. And so I just wanna get through all of it. Okay. Sorry, listener. And then I've got one, two, three, four, five different things that I put on my face at different one, two, three, four,

five different things that I put on my face at different times, whether it's the morning or the night, right? I'm an old man. I don't wanna seem old. I don't think you need to say you're an old man. I'm a 47-year-old man. Listen, listen. Skincare is important.

Thinking about yourself as an old man actually makes you old. I'm not old. I just listened to a whole podcast about this. You're doing it again. No, you cannot think of yourself as an old man. You have to think of yourself as a young person. That's why I put this stuff on my face

to think of myself as a young man. No, but when you're putting it on, you don't need to think, I'm an old man putting these things on my face so I don't look old. You need to be like, I am a youthful, energetic human, and I am, this is gonna help me continue to feel that way. Okay.

I got a couple of fragrances. I got some stuff, I got shaving stuff. You know, I shave up under here, and I shave right under here, you know. I like it when you shave there. I like it when those hairs grow out. And then I have some general like body lotions, maybe two of those.

Pretty high maintenance at this point. The main thing I worry about when it comes to the world ending is what I'm gonna do about all these ointments and lotions and products. If like when I have to become meat again, which is my alter ego that I will become in the apocalypse, I'm gonna have like psoriasis everywhere

and dandruff just falling off at the top of my hair. I think it'll be part of my image will just be all the, I'll have rosacea all over my face. Like all of my immuno, what do you, autoimmune skin issues that I'm constantly suppressing will just fire up and it'll be part of my image. But until then, I gotta kinda take care of this stuff. You gotta keep that skin buttery soft.

I gotta do that. And so it is a lot. Maybe I think maybe the trade needs to be bigger. Now to answer your question about the ones that are empty. Well and this is the thing, cause you don't like, you have a fear of something running out.

This is something that we've kind of come to this in our marriage, come to over 20, almost 24 years. We've realized that we come from different places when it comes to- Yeah, we have different philosophies. We do, we have different philosophies. I think of our house like a grocery store, just like my mom did. If you go through one toothpaste, there's one right behind it.

If you get through with one deodorant, there's one right behind it, and when you get down to one deodorant, you go ahead and buy the next two or three. So there's a little, you open up the cabinet and there's a little line. Now in your family. What you gonna say about my family?

Well, I think this is the way that it works, based on observing you, is that... Maybe I'm an outlier. You run out of deodorant, and then you spend one to three weeks using something else as deodorant. You know, you run out of soap, and then you use shampoo as your soap. Listen, I'm flexible, that's called being a flexible person

who can roll with the punches. This body can't take that. If this body could take that, he would do it. But this body can't take this. But maybe that body doesn't know what it can take. We'll see. No. This body has done, has lived its life without all my appointments. Why are we talking about your body as this body? Because I'm so disembodied. The reason I have some that are a little bit empty is that when it gets down to the very end of like a spray bottle and you can't get the rest but you know there's some in there, I know that at some point I'm going to take that one and I'm going to and when this one gets a little bit lower I'm going to open this one up and I'm going to pour it in there then I'm going to throw it away. And it's just, it's hard to get motivated to do that sometimes. So what you're saying is you have a little trouble purging.

There's something in you that is comforted by having a little extra. I mean, I will say that I don't think of myself as wanting to be prepared. Like when I'm out in the wild, I'm not like Link. He has a man purse with so many things. Don't bring Link into this. Like I don't, if I.

This isn't Link's, your products are not Link's fault. If you've, I'm just saying that I don't think of myself as being hyper prepared. Like if we travel, Link has all the things that, you know, the man goes to bed with at least seven or eight things next to him. I'm sorry, Link. But I'll defend you while you're not here.

I have a lot of ointments and lotions. This is wrong. If you spot me out in the wild, all I got is my wallet and my phone and maybe a little thing of eye drops. I've added that recently, but that's it. But at home, I got a lot of stuff and I do realize that that affects you.

Would you like us to put up a barrier? A little curtain between your sink and my sink? That might be nice, like a little hospital curtain. And then I can do whatever I want to on my side. I like that idea, it's not bad. Okay. Next question. Done. Hey, Red Link, this is Don Pei from Florida. and I just wanted to ask you guys some real advice.

I basically on the weekends the main thing me and my girlfriend and all my friends do for fun is we play DSG. And well recently our DM's wife has introduced her coworker and her husband, the new couple into the group. And basically, this guy, I can't explain it. They're not bad people, but the vibes just aren't there. And it's really hard to address this issue. Doesn't seem like anyone wants to budge. It just really has killed my weekend a little bit. Do you have any advice on how to work through that?

Or I don't know, maybe any solutions? Yeah, that'd be nice. All right, thanks, bye. Now this dinner party we're going to tonight, we're not playing D&D, but I'm starting to realize that based on the texts that I've sent and having gotten a response, I might be becoming this guy for this group of people.

I mean, my- I might be ruining these people's nights. My first question is hopefully the coworker, or does the coworker listen to this podcast? Hopefully they don't. Oh, you can't worry about this, Jessie. If we worried about who listens and what they said their name was,

and then people recognizing their voice, like- Listen, I'm stressed about it. We wouldn't have a show. I am stressed. Don't worry about that. I'm not trying to hurt somebody's feelings. Anyway, the thing, I don't know a lot about D&D. I think I've played.

Okay, that's where you're going with this. Maybe once. But there's that chart that's like, chaotic, neutral, neutral, good, evil, lawful. Yeah, that thing. What you're talking about. What, if you put that guy in the show, I mean, he did say he's not a bad person.

He sounds like he's a bad person. I mean, he sounds like he's a, he may not be like a morally corrupt person, but it just sounds like he's a bad person. I mean, he sounds like he's a, he may not be like a morally corrupt person, but it just sounds like he's a bad time. A bad time, but can anybody really, if they're not doing something to harm you, can anybody really make you have a bad time? I think you're the one who can make you have a bad time.

Can you step outside of yourself and see this person as a person doing the best they can, playing D&D, trying to make it in this world, trying to maybe make some new friends, trying to maybe make some new friends, trying to maybe make some new lifelong friends, and maybe you need to give this guy a break. Maybe you're actually the bad person. No, I'm just kidding.

I think it's an interesting thought experiment to see, to take yourself out of your body and think about this person as, well, what do we say? We say like the big boss, the final boss. If there's somebody that's getting on your last nerve, it's like you've worked through all the levels in this video game. And now this is an opportunity to see if you can beat this final boss, which

is this person who gets on your last nerves by just allowing them to do and be whatever they're going to do and be. I don't know. Well, that sounds like it could be good advice. Can I give some bad advice? Please give some bad advice? Please give some bad advice. I mean, I don't necessarily think that it is this guy's job to turn the game that he was playing, which was D&D with people he liked,

into trying to make himself like somebody that he doesn't like who might be a complete buzzkill. Now, one of the things I have learned about D&D that I did not know until I played it for the very first time ever is that it's collaborative, right? So I always thought, you know me, I'm a little bit competitive. I thought if you sat down to play a game that you as an individual were trying to win, which should communicate a few things about my personality. But I have since learned that it is the team

playing together and I actually think that's one of the beautiful things about D&D. It makes it super fun. I will say, I do think you can, however, in the midst of a D&D game, direct violent actions towards a member of your team. I think you can do that. And I think that if maybe on the side,

you talk to everyone else, other than the Dungeon Master, because the Dungeon Master made this decision to bring them in, and the Dungeon Master is in charge of the complete vibe and atmosphere of the game. Is it the Dungeon Master's husband or the Dungeon Master's coworker's husband? I think it's the Dungeon Master's wife's coworker and her husband.

Dungeon Master's wife's coworker, okay. And then her husband is the one it sounds like. So if you could just get together and you can say, hey, every time we get into a situation where we're supposed to cast a spell on this dragon or this ogre just direct all of the violent action at him And Just see what happens

Something else you can do if you don't want to try to like figure out why this person is frustrating you so much I will say listen At the risk of sounding super annoying, one thing that my therapist will say to me is, if you spot it, you got it. And it took me a long time to really figure out what this means and what he's talking about

and if I even believe it. But there is something too, the thing that is annoying you in another person, often not all the time, but often is the thing that annoys you in another person, often not all the time, but often is a thing that annoys you about yourself. It's like when I freak out at my kids about their really dirty room and then I go and look at my room and I'm like, oh this might be why their room looks the way it does. But something you can do if

you don't want to go down that route with yourself and do some self-reflection is like, just tell them that you've stopped doing these Friday night or weekend D&D games and then change the location. Whoa, Jessie! I got you to come to the dark side real quick. Well, we've got lots of options. Like that is the thing you can do. I forgot that the advice that we're giving is not always helpful, it's just advice. It's just for entertainment purposes. Right, right, which is, you know.

Unless we intend it to not be. Right. We had a game night for a long time. Since the pandemic, we've yet to really reinstate it. We did like a game night for your, my birthday? Whose birthday was it? I don't know. I don't remember.

And I was like, man, we should do this again. And we always say we're gonna restart it, then we don't. Oh, it was Shepherd had some friends over and we did a game night for them. We played, we played- Werewolf. Werewolf, yep. Now, we didn't have anybody in our Game Night group that was a buzzkill, but I'll be honest with you,

it was relatively curated and you love people so much more than I do. And you have a higher tolerance for people. It makes me feel good. Than I do. That you like me because sometimes you don't like people. Yeah. But I won't, here's the thing about me.

You're picky. You're a little picky thing. Once I'm there and I'm with you, I'm gonna be a good time with you and I'm not gonna be mean to you and I'm gonna engage with you and I'm gonna try to like find a way to like you. But if I can, everything up into the point in which I'm gonna engage with you, and I'm gonna try to find a way to like you. But if I could, everything up into the point

in which I'm in your presence, I would do everything I can to prevent it from happening because I just don't want to have a bad time. Well, and I also think it's just, you're much more of an introvert. I don't think it's all so nefarious. I think part of it is just, you don't feel like you have as much energy to give out in social situations

as I do, and so I think it's a little bit harder for you to make those happen. Sometimes I expend all my energy right at the beginning of the night, like when I parachute in. Exactly. And I'm so tired, and I'm like, oh, well, I feel like we've done, like, we gotta go home now.

We followed up our American flag and we just take kick an Uber back home. Is it going to be okay? Is it good? Are we going to walk in there and they're just going to ask us to leave after you send that text? Well, you know what? Here's the thing. All of these people are very powerful in the entertainment world. And I just wanted to send them a really entertaining text. And you know, I think it'll be the topic of conversation tonight.

I have full confidence that it's gonna happen. You did break the seal. Like you broke the seal on the silliness. And I appreciate that. First of all, this is not like, it's not a stuffy crowd. And we know the people hosting the party much better than we know the people who are coming to the party.

And I know that they think what I said is funny. But they didn't put a ha ha ha ha. Oh, they don't do that kind of thing. They've never responded. I always put ha ha ha's. Well, there'll be some ha ha ha's. I give feedback. So I think we've given you some options there.

You can either try to see this person as the final boss that you have to force yourself to like and hope for the best, or you can construct some sort of plan to sabotage them. And it really depends on what kind of person you are as to which path you will follow. Hey guys, my name is Austin. I'm a long time fan, love the podcast.

And I need you guys to help me settle a long many year long debate between me and my wife Many years ago. There's like six years ago. I was working at a restaurant and my boss's wife would bring me Desserts homemade desserts like pineapple

upside-down cake, broody pebble crusted cheesecake, delicious desserts, homemade like that. Now I was dating my now wife at the time and my wife says it was wrong of me to eat those desserts even though they were quite delicious. I never asked for them. They were just brought to me to try and eat and I'm out. I didn't have that. They were good desserts. I'm not just, I'm not going to turn down the free dessert. It was delicious. So yeah, if you could just settle the debate, is it wrong for me to have eaten another woman's dessert? Thank you guys for taking the question. Love you guys. Keep up the good work. I'm assuming that this is not a euphemism for something.

Well, I don't think fruity pebble encrusted cheesecake is a euphemism for something. I don't know, it could be. But we're gonna just assume you're talking about literal desserts here. Let's track this onto our relationship. Now, we haven't had this. I've never had a lady make desserts for me other than maybe like my mom or your mom.

And it wasn't ever just for me, it was like for the family. Well, I think there are some clarifying questions that could be asking. I think we can't do that, so let's make assumptions. What we do when we don't have the person here is we make assumptions and we confidently assert them. So we're gonna say that these were individualized desserts wrapped just for this man.

I mean that, okay, she made the whole thing. It wasn't like I made this last night for a group and I have a piece left over. It certainly sounds like this is like a personalized like cupcake sized, it has his name on it. Maybe you don't make clearly. Like you can't make one cupcake unless you're doing like the much, clearly.

You can make a little cheesecake. Okay, let's just say it's a regular size cheesecake, but she brings it to him and just gives it to him. The whole cheesecake? The whole cheesecake. Let's start there. Because if it's just, hey, I made a cheesecake, would you like a piece of it? Then I don't think his wife would have an issue with that. If she did, then I think that they've got deeper issues that they need to work out. But let's just say that these were intentional desserts. He was a dessert target. Okay? What if I became the target of a woman's desserts?

Well, I think I would want to know who this woman was, how she was connected to you. Does she look like Kacey Musgraves? Cause I hear that that's- Well, you kind of look like Kacey Musgraves. So why- Oh, I mean, that's a big compliment. Yeah.

He says boss is wife. Um, yeah, uh, hmm. He says boss is wife, and so I just picture this older woman. I know that's not necessarily the case. People can be attracted to older women. The question is, is he attracted to her? Was he attracted to this woman? Doesn't sound like it. But even if you're attracted to somebody, you can still eat their desserts.

I mean, can you only eat unattractive, people that you're unattracted to's desserts? I think you can eat anybody's desserts that you want. Right. I guess it's what's behind the dessert. Okay, but what if it was personalized? Like if it was like- It had his name on it?

It was like little, it was little chocolates and it was like, you know, the kind of thing that you would give a Valentine, now that's a little different. Yeah, and I don't think that's what this is. What if it was a Whitman sampler? It clearly wasn't, she was making the desserts at home. I'm trying to prepare myself.

Unless her name is Mrs. Whitman. Just be honest with you, I'm not particularly interested in their situation. I'm trying to prepare myself for what might happen with us and I wanna know at what point do I need to tell you? If a woman, if an old lady gives me a Whitman sampler, do I need to come home immediately and tell you? I think as long as you share it with me, it's fine. Okay.

I think there had to be something else going on, is what I, like, not that he was doing something, but there had to be some other inciting incident with this boss's wife that made her think that the desserts were not about just giving him a sweet treat. Well, that's quite an assumption you're making. If it feels like she had more intentions

than just the desserts, does that mean you have to reject the desserts in order to reject the larger intentions? Or do you just say, well, there's a dessert there, somebody's gotta eat it, and you eat it? I think as long as it never went past the dessert, we're okay, I don't think, I don't think, I mean, now if he consumed the dessert in a certain way

with like, in front of her with lots of lick-lipping. Whoa, Jessica. And other things that could be misconstrued. Chocolate covered strawberries, because that's about as sexy as a food can get. I don't think chocolate covered strawberries are actually sexy. I think they're hard to eat.

Like the chocolate breaks up, it gets all, I don't know how they got this idea of being a sexy dessert. Okay, well what's this? What's the sexiest food? What's the sexiest food? What's the sexiest dessert? Moose. I was gonna say moose, and I don't even like moose! But yeah, there's something about moose that's easy to eat. It's silky.

You can kind of run your mouth over the spoon. So you could like take it and you like run your mouth and just take some off and then you hand the other person the spoon and they finish it off. That's very sexy. Yeah. I don't think that was what was going on there. And you can't do that with pudding, by the way. You also can't do it with fruity pebble covered cheesecake. So I think it was fine that he ate the dessert.

Yeah. Pineapple upside down cake. That feels like... Pineapples are for swingers. No, that feels like something a grandma would make is pineapple upside down cake. That feels like- Pineapples are for swingers. No, that feels like something a grandma would make is pineapple upside down cake. I think she just thought he had a sweet tooth and that was the, I think you gotta drop this one. Maybe her husband never complimented her desserts.

And she makes desserts all the time and she just wanted somebody to love her desserts. Now if a man, let's just reverse this. If a man started bringing you meat products. Whoa! You know what I'm saying? Like if a man started bringing you. That would be weird,

because I don't love meat products. Well, okay. I eat meat, but I don't like love meat products. It wouldn't, it doesn't feel, anyway, continue with your analogy. What if this man began bringing. Or your story. Began bringing you sausages. That would feel particularly sexual.

Right, uh-huh. So what I needed then to have a conversation. I'm just trying to figure out if this ever happens. If a man tries to, my grandfather would send us summer sausage, but that was for the whole family. But if he was still alive and he started sending the summer sausage just to you, I feel like I might make a phone call.

It might be cause for concern. I think if he gave the boss's wife summer sausage, the wife should be mad. If he ate the boss's wife's sausage the wife should be mad if he ate the boss's wife's fruity pep fruity pebble covered cheesecake Okay, I think we've established our ground rules Let's hear another one Let's hear another one. Hey y'all, my name is Stephanie.

I am from the deep south. Well, my daddy's from Chanton County, Alabama. But about 30 years ago, he and my mama came back up to Detroit where my mama was from. And so I was actually raised up here and I'm pretty comfortable code switching and I was wondering what y'all thought about code switching and did you Know about what this was and do you find yourself switching between? Like your dialect or who you're talking to where you're in the country and like stuff like that I was just wondering I think it's really fun

I worked in the auto industry now and I can definitely change how I'm talking if it's to a supervisor or someone else on the line. Yeah, what are your thoughts? Love you guys. This is a great question. And I want to talk to you, Jessie, about the way people interact with you here based on your accent. Before we do that, there is this phenomenon, and I think that, we may have talked about this on Ear Biscuits or Good Mythical More, we talked so much on the internet that I can't remember where I've said things,

but there is, I think generally in culture, people think that it is more virtuous to always sound exactly the same in every circumstance that you're in, right? I think it's just given that that's the virtuous thing is to never change how you talk, depending on the circumstances, always have the same personality.

And so I've always kind of thought that that was true, but I've actually begun to question that a little bit. Because I think that the, the chameleon, chameleon's a bad word because it has a negative connotation, like somebody's like up to no good, but there's a chameleon like quality where you're like, okay, I'm currently with little kids.

And what are you gonna do when you're little kids? You kinda talk to them in a way that you relate to them. Or like, people who have dogs but don't do doggy talk to them. Which dogs like, by the way. It's scientifically proven. I have a problem with people who are unwilling to do, what do doggies talk to them. Which dogs like, by the way. It's scientifically proven. I have a problem with people who are unwilling to do what old doggy talk to your doggies.

Look at you, you're a big guy, you're my favorite guy in the world. The stinkiest man on the planet. I like saying things like that to my dog because he's a dog, they're dogs, and kids, you talk to a baby in a certain way. And so, I'm just, in my mind, if I'm gonna go, yeah, if I'm gonna go to the,

get my oil changed, you know, I'm gonna talk to the guy a little bit different than I. Oh, you do. We had a guy who came to cut down some trees for us in North Carolina. And boy, that dude was from the mountains of North Carolina and it was, I had not heard anybody talk like that in a while.

And I actually, you know, I know that I'm this California guy now and that's how I'm perceived by a lot of people. And so I was like, well, I'm not gonna like put my hair up in a bun for this guy. Because I was like, I'm just gonna put my hat, I got my trucker hat in here that I wear a lot. I'm gonna put it on.

Your NC State shirt. And then it's like, I'm not gonna change, I'm not talking to him like this. But you know, you can even hear as I do things, depending on what mood I'm in or what mood me and Link are in, like we'll get more southern and more country if we're like being really stupid. And then if I'm like trying to make a point

about something that I want you to really understand, I'll like clean, and it happens. And I just wonder, is that like a sign of lack of character? Of course not. It's, I think the implication is that you are not authentic, that you're different people for, you're a different person for different people. But what if your authentic self is being a little bit flexible? Well, right, I disagree with that idea.

Like, I think one thing I tell my kids all the time is know your audience. It's like, look. Read the room. all the time is know your audience. It's like, look. Read the room. Read the room. Know your audience. That doesn't make you a disingenuous person. It means that you're not a moron. Like, you know that I'm going to be a certain way around you that I won't be around anybody

else. And that's just because I know my level of safety around you and comfort. And so, I mean, we are primates. What primates are, you know, group animals. What's the word? Not group animals. Social animals. Yeah, social animals. But there's another word that I can't think of. Gregorius. No, not gregarious. Anyway, they're social animals. And so we respond to our environment.

If you are in, and I mean, I have noticed it with you because you don't have your accent as strongly anymore, but when we go back home, it definitely comes out, especially depending on who we're talking to. And I don't think you're trying to do that. I think it's just, you also hear, we mimic without even knowing we're doing that. So if we're around more Southern people,

that's in us, that's gonna come out in a way that it won't when you're around people who are not from the South. Right, now, do I think it could be taken too far? Of course, but I'm just saying, I just don't think there's a black and white answer to this. However, there's something else that happens. There's two things that I've observed. And you've told me stories of this.

Sometimes people who have never lived in the South, who've never had a Southern accent, who are talking to you out here in Los Angeles, will start having a Southern accent when they're talking to you out here in Los Angeles will start having a southern accent when they're talking to you? They do. People do all kinds of weird things because I have a southern accent and I know Christy feels the same way we've talked about this and we've experienced this together and I've you know I did some acting as a child and one of the things that they

taught you to do was lose your accent. Like I could lose my accent if I had to but I'm 44 years old now and so I just this is my accent, this is how I sound and I'm fine with that. And it also is part of who I am, part of where I came from, so I'm not ashamed that I have a Southern accent. That is part of what makes me me. But people act really weird about it and say the most bizarre things. Occasionally somebody will say something sweet and kind

that's like, I love your accent, it's beautiful, it's melodious, whatever. Most of the time, people say the rudest things. Give us some examples. You still have that accent. You've been here 14 years and you still sound like that. Yeah. I don't think, I mean, first of all, I would be totally fine if you did, but you.

Yesterday. I don't, I hear, I don't, I mean, I know that I just, I'm kind of blind to it, but like, I don't hear. I think you're, I think in the same way that your height doesn't, I'm so used to your height that I don't realize how tall you are. I don't think you realize how southern I sound I don't Because where I come from in North Carolina, this is like nothing. Well, everybody back home thinks that

You've lost your accent, right? And they'll be derogatory about that. Well It's it it could be worse But yeah people know people have said, you know, people will openly mock you. Sometimes you can tell they're doing it on purpose. Sometimes they don't even know they're doing it. So and I think I actually have thought about this because I think like Americans will do this with British people not knowing it's like you hear this sound that is different than the sound you normally hear coming out of people's

mouths and you wanna try it. You wanna see if you can mimic it without even knowing it. And so that happens. But sometimes it's done and you feel like, this person is a total asshole. Like, this is the way I talk. This isn't just like something cute and fun I'm doing for them to laugh at.

This is like how I sound. Yeah, right, when we first moved here, there was a guy checking me out. Checking you out. No, checking me out at a register. And he asked me for my phone number And checking me out at a register. And he asked me for my phone number and I started, you know, 919, which is still. But he asked you for your phone number

because you were. Yes. Just, you gotta, if I wasn't here, you would have been like, there was a guy checking me out and asked me for my phone number and I just started giving it to him. He was asking for your rewards number, which was your phone number.

He was not trying to take me out. He was asking me for my rewards number and so I started to give it to him. Okay, now it's even worse. Give him my number! I started to give him my number. Jessie, you gotta clean up your language. There was a guy checking you out,

asked you for your number, so you gave it to him. And I said, it's 919, he said, that's North Carolina area code, 919, started totally mocking me. And then proceeded to ask me where I was from, which is like, okay, you're gonna mock me and then proceeded to ask me where I was from, which is like, okay, you're gonna mock me and then like try to make conversation. So he was like, where are you from?

You know, and I think I said the place where people have great accents or something, I don't know. That's pretty good. But yeah, it's kind of shocking. Well, let's just do it, we'll do a little PSA for people who aren't from the South who run into people from the South. First of all, do not say, are you from Texas? Because that happens.

Okay, yeah, you know what? There's a lot of people from the south who are from Texas. Statistically speaking, you might be right. But we're not from Texas and we get that shit all the time. And this accent is not a Texan accent. This is North Carolina accent. Don't start doing the accent back to the person. Yes, if you do it on accident, it's clear when somebody

is doing it and doesn't realize it. do it on accident, it's clear when somebody is doing it and doesn't realize it. I love your accent, that's fine. That's beautiful. Because I think that can be a compliment. Totally agree. I mean, when I hear a real sudden accent. But what about code switching?

Oh, the question you mean? Yeah, let's get back to that. Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is that if you think about what you are, and I'm not trying to get like super, like everything is a strategy, it's not how I think, but like, if you think about, okay, I'm going to be in this group

or now I recognize that I'm in this group, how I present in this group has an impact on how I am perceived and what am I actually trying to accomplish in the context of this group and would that help or would that hurt what I'm trying to accomplish? And if I'm trying to connect and like get along. You might not wanna say that you're coming in

on a parachute. No, no, I think that's great. I stand by that. So I just think it's about, now the reason that this becomes a thing in culture is because politicians will do it depending on who they're talking to. And I think that politicians doing it,

like, oh, this politician is now speaking to this group of people, of workers or whatever, and they're like trying to sound real blue collar, and now they're talking to this group of scientists and they sound different. That signals an inauthenticity. That signals because the thing that we're really suspicious about when it comes to politicians is that they are catering,

they are basically shaping themselves in order to please you to be able to deceive you. And I think that that's a different thing. So I think that as a politician, I think it probably makes sense to be like, hey, let's work on you always sounding the same. No matter where people are pulling the clip from, no matter who you're in front of,

you always sound the same. So what's gonna be the way that you talk? You gotta land on that. I do think that's important. But I think that's different than just you as a person hanging out with people. I just think there's a difference. I mean, I think it all comes down to like,

what you're saying is people want someone who is principled and who is who they are. But I do think that your audience matters. And I do think people talk differently when they're around family members, when they're around somebody they know well, when they're around somebody that they just met. We curse in our home.

We do. In front of our children. We do. Why are you, you're gonna get us in trouble. With who? People who think you shouldn get us in trouble. With who? People who think you shouldn't curse in front of your kids? Those people. They can, yeah, we've been in trouble with them

for a long time. But, and so, is it, am I not being my authentic self? No, I think you're knowing your audience. Drop an F-bomb in front of my mom? I think there's, what is it important? What's it gonna accomplish? What is you dropping? Occasionally, I will drop a curse word

in front of somebody that may not be comfortable with me doing that, and I think I do that because I'm trying to accomplish something. You have a rhetorical goal in that instance. That's right, that's right. And it will be helpful towards that. And so is it something that is gonna accomplish the thing that you're trying to accomplish

if it's not devious or is it you trying to pull one over on people? And I think that we're talking as people who, and maybe this is something some people can't relate to, like I do think about who am I with right now and what am I actually trying to do in this group? And I think that that might be too calculated for some people's personalities already.

They might be like, that's how you think about things? It's like, yes, that's how I think about things. And not that I'm always trying to be like, what can I accomplish? But I am thinking about, well, how am think about things. And not that I'm always trying to be like, well, what can I accomplish? But I'm just, I am thinking about, well, how am I being perceived in this group? And how will that impact things for me? Some people may be like,

I'm just always being exactly who I am and who I'm with has absolutely no impact on that. And I think that's just, it's a kind of a different personality. And I don't think that there is like a, well, this is a worse version of a a well this is a worse version of a person and this is a better version of a person I think it's just like people who are always exactly themselves regardless of the circumstance is a type of person that

has advantages in certain ways but disadvantages in the other and people who are kind of take their audience into account and read the room before they say the thing that they're gonna say, is a different personality. You probably can't help it if you're that kind of personality. Both you and I are that way. And we will be able to accomplish a different set of things.

And I just think that that's what makes humans wonderful is that we're different and I think that understanding like at what point would me code switching become me being manipulated by my environment and actually not being able to be my authentic self. Or you being manipulative. Exactly, yeah. Okay, speaking of accents, last thing,

let's, we do this little thing, I don't know if you listen to this podcast, you hear me talk enough. If I were you, I wouldn't listen to it. Just to be honest with you, like, I just feel like. Sometimes I just need to hear your voice. I need to hear you saying stupid little things when I'm driving down the road.

Okay, wow. Yeah. But we like to listen to people's accents and then try to guess where they're from. And I'll be honest with you, we've never done a good job at this. So maybe you'll be able to do better. Hey Rhett and Link, it's Anne here.

I was just calling to see if you wanna guess where my accent is from. And one tip, right, it's not really associated with your kind of heritage. So I'll give you a second to have a rethink and yeah. Okay, well, that's gotta be Scotland then, right? She said it's really not what? It's not really part of your heritage

because I thought that Scotland was. But when she said, I was gonna say, I was gonna say like Scotland or Ireland. That's what I was gonna say. Well, that's what I was thinking. But when she said we, she said, give you a we think. That sounds Irish, but I think that, I have said that I know that I'm more Irish than Scottish.

I think I am based on that spelling of my last name. But so I'm gonna go with Scotland on this one. What does, what do Welsh people sound like? Yeah, I don't know. Probably a lot. Is that a possibility? It's for certain it's a possibility. Is somebody gonna tell us or do we just have?

Jamie's gonna keep playing it and then it's gonna reveal. So you're saying whales. I'm saying I'm open to it being whales. Okay, but if you're wrong, you'll never be able to come back on the podcast. But if I do come back on the podcast, I'm gonna sit here and not get too close to the microphone You've done such a good job.

and look at the right camera. No, I mean, it's amazing how much I haven't thought about that since the very beginning of this podcast. So I have to give my final answer now? Yeah, and you can agree with me if you want to. But I thought you said Jamie was gonna play some more. To reveal it. Oh.

This feels important. I'm still gonna let you come back. Well, you know, I wanna be different. So let me say Wales. She's saying Wales. Okay. Yeah. Okay, well, hopefully you guessed it.

I'm from Belfast, Northern Ireland. Ah! Northern Ireland, she got us! She got us. So crack and really stupid stuff. But yeah, love you guys, bye! So the we, I was like, when she said, I'll give you a we think, I was like, okay, Northern Ireland.

Now I wanna go listen to some Welsh accents, cause I really don't know what they sound like. It might be crazy. It may be nothing like this at all. Because I think they actually have the whole different language. They do, yeah. Yeah, Welsh people, I watch a lot of British Love Island

and stuff like that. Okay, okay. I've heard Welsh people and they're, it's like a very distinct, it's like, I could never replicate it, but it's very distinct. Okay. And they talk really fast. Okay, well, we missed that one.

We both failed. I guess you don't get to come back on the podcast. I think yours is a better guess because it didn't really sound like the typical Scottish accent, but I'm like, maybe just people talk different than you think, but okay, she's from Battlefest. Well, thank you for joining us. It's over? Yeah, I mean, we got things to do. We got places to go. I got more work to do.

I'm gonna drive you around town a little bit. Oh, this'll be new. Sounds fun. Where can people find you, Jessie? Oh, wow, you really are going hard with this. Well, you know, you are an incredibly gifted designer, and I just want people to know about what you're doing, because I think it's very interesting.

You've made a big difference in the aesthetics of all the environments that I live and work in, and I just think that people ought to know about that. That's so sweet. I can find me on Instagram at Jesse Lane Interiors. Mm-hmm. Look at you. Mm-hmm.

Ha ha ha. All right, we will, and by we, I mean me and the other guy, Link. We'll speak with you next week. Hey, little Link. I'm Michelle. I'm from Venezuela. I just wanted to tell you guys that you're amazing and a safe space for me.

And thank you and yeah, you've got a mythical beast around here. Bye. We've got a beach music festival coming to North Myrtle Beach on May the 3rd. And if you want some tickets, we'll have some things where you can look at it. And it's got the California Honey Drops, Jim Quick and Coastline, and the band of Oz. Great, and I think you buried the lead. Who else is going to be there? The California Honey Drops. Keep going. I think it might, I think you might be there.

Oh, yeah. And Charles Neal with Dispatches from Myrtle Beach. It's gonna be there too. So go to odmusicfest.com. That's odmusicfest.com and get your tickets and come and see me.