Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - We Expose Our Family Secrets | Ear Biscuits Ep. 478
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This, this, this, this is Mythical.
[♪ theme music playing.
Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time.
I'm Rhett. And I'm Link.
This week at the round table of dim lighting,
we have finally gotten confirmation on whether our advice is good or not.
Did it work?
Should you be taking our advice?
Did it change someone's life?
Maybe.
Maybe we'll find out today
because I'm saying we finally did.
But let's start somewhere else
and that is in a place where
Yes.
someone asked a question on the TikTok about,
she was like, I'm bored,
share your deepest, darkest family secret.
We're not gonna do that,
but we were gonna look at some of the comments
that were made on that post.
Why aren't we gonna share our deepest,
darkest family secrets?
Yeah, we can. Maybe we, darkest family secrets? We can.
Maybe we can.
We can, we can.
I don't have any great ones.
So what was the post?
The post was, I'm bored,
share your deepest, darkest family secrets.
I mean, what were the responses?
Oh, thanks. Are you gonna read them?
Yeah.
That's what I, that's what I was trying to tell you,
but I asked the wrong question.
You asked the wrong question.
I answered the questions that I'm asked.
Can you read some of these comments?
Yeah.
Family secret.
I'm trying to, do I have a deep dark family secret?
Inspire me with some of these random responses.
This one has a whole lot of likes.
So it was at the top.
My grandma never signed the divorce papers,
so when my granddad died, she got all the money.
Ooh.
Even though they didn't live together,
they were like totally separated.
Or grandpa.
More than separated.
Had a bad lawyer.
Yeah.
Or lawyer, as we used to say. And we learned that both are acceptable.
Attorney.
Yeah.
Litigator.
Little gator.
Lawyer.
I found a little gator in my backyard in Florida.
Little gator.
That's pretty slick though.
Yeah, if you...
Hey, if your ex-spouse got a bad lawyer,
then take advantage of that. She got all the money? Wow. I guess we're on her side.
We're assuming that other than that little shenanigan, she's worthy and a great person for it.
That was a good move. It was a good move by Grandma. Now I'm trying to think... When you don't sign the papers...
I mean, I see that in movies a lot.
It's like, just sign the papers.
You see, Brad...
The non-signing of papers in movies?
Come on, I see how one party doesn't want to sign the papers.
Come on, Brad. Just sign the papers.
I'm not signing the papers.
I assume that there's a way to force a divorce
without the papers being signed.
I hope to never find out.
I won't be able to receive an end to that.
It makes me think about the number of things
that we sign now with like DocuSign.
Are you talking about Biden's auto pen?
I'm not gonna get into the Auto Pen thing.
What are you talking about?
I don't use Auto Pen, I use DocuSign.
Is Auto Pen a general term for using DocuSign?
I don't know. Or is it a different brand?
I think so.
I don't know, who cares?
I thought it just meant like a digital signature,
which is what we do all the time.
It probably is.
What do you typically do?
What's the point of that?
It's like somebody emails you something,
and then it's just like...
What's the point of it?
Open the mobile-friendly version.
That's kinda what I'm getting at.
And then you sit there and you just hit this button,
it's like sign, sign, sign, and it puts, it's not,
sometimes I, it's my actual signature.
Well, yeah, do you do that?
But then sometimes, you can select.
It's just the computer doing a signature of my name.
Well, you can select it.
I always select that because if I use the finger to sign it,
If I use the finger to sign it,
it looks like a four-year-old has suddenly gotten
some sort of legal authority.
At one point, I really went through the trouble
of getting my signature to look
like my signature through that little, you know, finger-write thing.
And your bank makes...
And it's saved on DocuSign, so I can choose that.
But it will always let me choose just the generic...
And it's not even cursive. It's just a fake cursive.
It's an italic font. How is this legally binding? I'm glad it is, by the generic. And it's not even cursive. It's just a fake cursive. It's an italic font.
How is this legally binding?
I'm glad it is, by the way.
I think that's what I'm getting at.
And again, I'm not getting into the political debate
over this because I know nothing about it.
I've heard people talk about it.
But I'm kind of getting at the point
that it feels like we're getting to a place
where the signatures are meaningless.
Because-
Can't somebody forge that?
I mean, it seems too easy to-
You're going to DocuSign. Way too easy to hack.
I say my name is Rhett McLaughlin
and then all of a sudden here I am signing away.
Do you remember in the early days of Mythical,
when it wasn't even Mythical, it was Rhett and Link Inc.
Even before that Rhett and Link Creations, LLC.
Okay.
I remember that.
I had a stamp of my signature made.
And I still have it, if you ever need it.
Of my signature? Yeah. I don't know why, if you ever need it. Of my signature?
Yeah. I don't know why. It's in that drawer in there.
You know, we got that filing cabinet in there.
It's still here.
I have needed that so many times.
Really?
Yeah, there's so many. I'm signing. I don't know.
Sometimes I'm signing things in the real world.
Rubber snap.
Where's my stamp?
You should keep it on your keychain.
And how has my signature changed?
Put it on your belt, Luke. It's my stamp. You should keep it on your key chain. And how has my signature changed? Put it on your belt loop.
It's gotten worse.
I would sit when I was a child,
not a child, when I was not yet a man.
Okay.
I would sometimes sit and be like,
why is my signature, I was a bad,
I didn't have good handwriting.
Why is my signature so bad?
I want it to look like a person
of some sort of import signed this, you know?
So that was important to you, yet I've seen your signature.
My signature is quality at this point.
It's an ink worm, dude.
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Okay, so I'm saying, so I have a very simple, a very simple, like it doesn't,
you have all the letters in your name. Some people make a choice to put all the
letters in their name, and a lot of people don't, but they have a thing that's like
consistent and it looks like an adult did it. And then there's Josh, and it kind of looks like
he's still figuring it out, you know?
And we do this because we signed the Mythical cookbook
sometimes and there's Josh.
We leave the big space for Josh.
I mean, he wrote it.
We just presented it and we do Rhett and Link under it.
Yeah.
And I'm just saying that if you look at those
three signatures together...
He's the one that's hurting.
Yeah, so I don't think I don't have a bad signature is like when I get my kids to sign something.
I didn't say it was bad, did I? I just said it was an inkworm.
Yeah, and I'm very proud. I think what I'm trying to get at is there's different styles of signatures, right?
Oh, you're proud of it. I'm sorry.
If you see my... It's much faster than yours.
If you see my signature,
especially if I sign Rhett McLaughlin, right?
There's the R in the squiggly thing,
and then there's the M, the C, the L,
and another squiggly thing.
Like that's Rhett McLaughlin, right?
Sometimes there's a J in there
if I'm feeling especially important.
But if I get my child to sign something,
like I've gotten Locke and Shepard have had to sign,
they had to sign their passport, right?
Yeah.
You get a teen to sign something
and they haven't thought about their signature,
it's awful.
Yeah.
Do you know what I'm getting at?
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Part of growing up.
Because I have naturally.
Knowing how to sign and having things to sign.
Bad handwriting, I didn't want to look like forever
that a child sign this thing.
And then there are people that I actually think
that me and you may be in slightly different categories
and that you write all four letters of your name
and I write R, a hump for H and then Squiggy.
I think we're actually almost in the same category because there's another category.
There's child category down here and people can never sign without looking like a kid.
Then there's people in the middle, which I think both of us are, and then there's people
whose signature is a work of art and they have gone out of their way to make it look like something
that can be tattooed on someone.
Yeah.
I know some people like that,
that I've seen their signature and I'm like,
wow, you spent a lot of time on that.
I gotta respect that.
And I think about those people,
to get back to my original point, I think about those people when to get back to my original point,
I think about those people when I'm using DocuSign.
Because I'm like, you have this beautiful signature
that you spent all this time on
that looks like something I wanna get tattooed
on one of my ass cheeks.
And now your only choices are italic font
or your finger.
And I know you can't do with your finger
what you perfected over many hours of practice.
It's the great equalizer, Rhett, DocuSign.
And what you're telling me is that DocuSign allows you
to save a signature.
Apparently, because mine's in there.
I gotta get my old stamp.
I gotta press that on some paper,
and then I gotta get a picture of that
and import that into DocuSign?
Okay, I'll do it.
Ha ha ha.
We'll read another family secret.
Good for you, Grandma.
My grandfather cheated a few times on my grandmother,
and to make women feel sorry for you, grandma. My grandfather cheated a few times on my grandmother and to make women feel sorry for him,
he used to say his wife and kids burned in a house fire
and he was the only one who survived.
Oh.
Are you horny?
Yeah.
Yeah, you gotta give a woman some time
to recover from that story.
Yeah, that's not like,
storytelling and hopping to bed. I don't know, maybe some women who are into that kind of thing. You know, it's not like, storytelling and hopping to bed.
I don't know, maybe some women who are into that kind of thing.
You know, it's probably- Weeping sex.
It's probably a kink.
I mean, listen, don't yuck that yum.
Is that what you say?
Yes.
Don't yuck the yum of the woman
who likes to hear somebody tell a tragic story
before they screw.
I don't know.
Especially if he's lying about the story.
He's lying about it, yeah.
Don't yuck her yum, that's what she's into.
Total dirtbags.
This is not, your grandfather's.
I bet his signature's dumb.
Your grandfather's not a good guy.
He's results oriented.
You know, what does that make you think
when you've got someone who is just a generation,
two generations away from you genetically
who is capable of that kind of thing?
You know, I mean, I've got,
I mean, I don't think my grandfather
that I wrote that song about married seven times,
it was literally true about my grandfather that I wrote that song about, married seven times. It was literally true about my grandfather.
Hold on, you're talking about the second album song.
What's the song called?
It's called, I don't know the names of my songs, man.
I go in and I do my music and then I completely forget
about it for a month at a time.
Small Man, that's it.
And he was married seven times, twice to my grandmother.
With how many in between?
Maybe one.
Seven times is a lot, six women is a lot.
And he was,
in the way that my dad would explain it to me
is that he would marry, well, my dad would say,
the lyric of the song is like,
flu plane, flu planes in the war,
at least that's what he said.
Couldn't really trust him according to my dad.
And then there was one time I remember
he had a book about World War II,
which at the time I would have called War War II
because I didn't understand that there was a difference.
You thought it was the word war twice.
I thought it was twice.
War War, I thought the wars that are so significant,
you say it twice.
War War I, War War II.
It's a war so war-y.
That you gotta war it twice.
That everybody in the world was involved.
Who wore it twice. That everybody in the world was involved. Who wore it better?
In World War II, he said he flew planes
and we were looking, we were at his house one time,
which I only went to once,
and then I saw him one more time after that.
And he had this book and it was like an encyclopedia.
I think it was literally Britannica.
Okay.
And he opened it up to a section about World War II
and there was a plane just flying,
like a picture of a plane flying.
He was like, that's me flying that plane.
In the encyclopedia.
Yeah, and of course I believed him
and then I went and told my dad and he was like,
yeah, that's not him.
He's lying to you.
We don't even really know if he did that.
Ouch.
We don't, we're like, he was in the military,
but we don't know.
And he did, we didn't, he was like a private pilot.
He did have like a, he would like fly a little plane around.
But- But your dad,
I mean, you only saw him twice in your life,
is what you just said.
It may have been three times, but, cause I think he may have- I only saw him twice in your life, is what you just said.
It may have been three times,
but because I think he may have.
Because one of those times was with me.
We went to Michigan to where he lived one time.
He came to California when we lived out here
when I was a kid.
I think, maybe it was North Carolina, I don't know.
And then one more time was when he picked me and you
up on the side of the road.
When we were hitchhiking,
trying to get to your brother's wedding.
Or it was the day before the wedding.
And we were walking from the hotel to the venue
and we could have walked,
but then he saw us and pulled over and picked us up.
Yep.
I feel so special that one of the three times
you ever met your granddad,
it was, you know, he might've thought you were me
or I was you.
Yeah, oh, he knew what I looked like.
But-
World War II, huh?
But when you think of you got somebody like that
related to you is where I'm getting at.
When your dad was telling you that he was just full of shit,
I mean, I don't remember.
Caring?
You know what, you know how,
especially the way that I was, if my parents said it,
it was true.
And I'm not saying it wasn't true,
I'm just saying that if my dad gave me a perspective
on his dad, then that was the perspective
that you were supposed to have on him.
Now, one of the things I explore in the song is that,
once you get older and you start,
first of all, I know beyond the shadow of a doubt
that like, my dad told me stuff that his dad did to him.
And so I know that he was not a good dad.
And he was also not really involved in his life
beyond just getting my grandmother pregnant.
But then you think, you started learning that like,
people are really complicated, right?
People are super complicated.
And yes, he was a bad dude who did some bad things,
but like, what, if I hadn't gotten to know him,
what else would I've learned about him?
And what would I have found out about why he was like that?
Not that it would justify it, but you know.
But you think to yourself, you've got, I don't know,
do the math, 25%?
I have 25% of his genes in me?
Is that how it works?
Grandfather? Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean, just think about that.
It's in you, man.
Like the capability to-
Well, how does that make me feel?
I'm asking myself out loud.
Yeah, how does that make you feel?
I don't know.
I've only been married once.
Do I need to-
Did he die alone?
Do I need to try again?
Do I need to divorce Jessie, marry somebody else,
and then marry Jessie again?
Like following my grandfather's footsteps?
Let's say no to that.
Okay, I won't do it then.
Did he die alone?
He died in a ditch.
Okay, I guess what I'm asking is,
was there anybody else in the ditch?
Nope.
What the hell?
What time?
I think you told me this, but-
It's in the song, bro.
Well, you don't remember the,
I won't feel bad about not remembering the details
because you don't even remember the name of the song.
I remember the lyrics of the songs.
You know.
How did he die in a ditch?
Found him in a ditch on the roadside.
His, something, his body covered in snow, I can't remember.
And then when my dad said,
basically my dad went along to the funeral,
said, there's no need for you to go.
That's true, that's what happened.
Yeah.
So he was
married at the time to a woman that I never met.
I met one of his wives, other than my grandmother.
Okay. And he was like walking on met one of his wives, other than my grandmother. Okay.
And he was like walking on the side of the street,
had a heart attack, fell into the ditch
and it snowed overnight.
He was out there the whole night and they couldn't find him
and then they found him in the morning.
Yeah.
And your dad went to the funeral without you.
Mm-hmm.
My dad went to the funeral without anyone.
My mom didn't go, my brother didn't go.
It was like- And, I gotta do this.
And your dad doesn't have any siblings.
He has two half siblings?
I think one he knew about,
maybe one that was discovered by 23andMe.
Well, yeah, six wives.
Probably got some half siblings.
I think he's got more,
I think there's other ones out there.
But no full siblings, no aunts or uncles do you that on that side that you knew about.
No, everybody that I know on my dad's side
is through his mom, mom and Elle.
Like that whole family, all those people that were in Georgia
and that's all mom and Elle's side of the family.
So the McLaughlin side of the family.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So mom and Elle. No, no, no.
Mom and Elle was married to this man twice.
Mom and Elle. Mama Nell.
Mama Nell.
Was Mama Nell at the wedding?
Whose wedding?
Cole's wedding, the one where we met
your granddad hitchhiking.
Surely, right?
Right. Cause Cole got married.
Might've been 19. Late 90s.
90s.
Yeah. Eight.
I think that she had to be there, right? Why was he there? It might've been 19. Late 90s? 90s. Yeah. Eight?
I think that she had to be there, right?
Why was he there?
I think because we got,
I think Indiana was close enough to Michigan
for him to be like, I guess I'll drive down there.
But North Carolina was too far away.
He didn't come to my wedding.
No.
But there wasn't even discussion
about whether or not he would, honestly.
Did he send you some sausages?
Probably.
That's why he was the one who would send the sausages?
Sausages and cheese, yeah.
For Christmas.
And it was good, man.
See, as a boy, you think you're World War II hero grandfather
who sends you sausage and cheese,
you're like, this is pretty good,
why don't we hang out with him more?
He's in an encyclopedia, he lives on a lake.
Uh-huh.
I wanna go up on that plane with him.
This is a family secret, kinda.
Yeah, yeah, we got there.
You got there.
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Surely you've got some weird stuff going on.
I think there's a lot of closeted gay people in my family.
Okay.
I mean, I think that counts.
Well, I said weird stuff.
I don't want you to think,
I mean, closeted gay, you're saying.
No, being gay is not weird.
Being closeted is not weird.
But it provides for some weirdness.
When you look back, okay, yeah.
Even now, I like, I'll think of certain relatives
who are dead and gone.
And I'm like, oh, they were gay.
I'm pretty sure, yeah. Oh. Oh! Oh! They were in a closet.
Mm.
Oh.
Which is very common where we come from.
And sad, right? So I think there was like, yeah, there was like hushed tones
not knowing how to speak about certain family members.
Oh.
I'm like, well, you know, she has a friend.
Oh, it would go that far.
That's not too closeted.
Sometimes it'll be like,
well, but that's what it was,
just okay, you got a friend.
You know, sad.
A shame, really.
But I think that that's like what my family chose,
and I'm talking like generations, you know, it's like,
I don't think it's the case now.
Like now we would speak openly about it,
but it's not like a problem at this point.
I tried to do the ancestry.com thing at one point.
And I got back, on both sides, I got back
really to like the early 1800s.
It just, and then it was basically people who weren't,
it was just like poor farmers who didn't have good records.
And so there was no like-
Not in Scotland.
No, I didn't make it to Scotland or Ireland.
Ireland probably where it would have gone.
Which is where you needed to have made it.
But I did, and I don't even think I have my account anymore,
but on somebody's side.
So what you'll do on these services is you will find,
you'll tap into a family tree
that somebody else has done work on, right?
Okay.
That's how it works.
It's like, if you get to a person
and then that person has all these branches
and if somebody's great-great-granddaughter
has gotten into this.
Yeah.
And occasionally there'll be like a really old picture
of the person.
And there was one guy,
I can't remember what side of the family it was,
that was a Confederate soldier.
Which that happens all the time
when you're watching like that show.
Who was I?
Who am I, whatever the name of the show,
whatever that is, can't remember the guy who hosts that.
Yeah.
But people will find like, oh.
They do a good job on that show, man.
I bet you those people could really figure it out for me
and maybe get back to the home country.
But yeah, but you get back and you see this guy
that fought for the Confederacy, which again,
like anyone who was of age,
who lived in that state fought for the Confederacy.
Right. Most likely
it wasn't like they had a choice.
But yeah, you know, okay.
I think the thing that would be difficult
is if somebody has,
like if you're immediate,
like your parent has contributed 50, like your parent,
that's 50% of your genes,
like you found out that they were something that you didn't,
or you know that they are something that,
they're bad in some way.
Or like the inventor of the vacuum.
Right, well sometimes it can be a good thing.
It can be something cool.
Sometimes it can be a good thing.
You wanna read another one, you wanna move on.
I like this.
Okay.
Deepest family secrets.
The man my great grandma was originally married to
went off to war, I wonder if it was World War I or II.
He came back to find a man my great granddad
had taken his wife and his identity.
Not sure what happened to the original guy.
He came back and someone was like using his name
and everything, using his docu-sign.
Do you think that your great grandma knew?
Or he's like the war changed me, baby.
I'm back for the war early.
The war changed my face and my voice and my body.
But not my name.
That's right.
Because she had to be okay with this.
I think maybe, you know what?
Yeah, how does that work?
I think the times were different back then. I think you send your man off to
war and you're like, I don't know what, and then the guy comes back and he's like,
can I, hmm? And she's like, well yeah. I don't know if he's coming back.
Well I got a husband in the war, his name's Jeff. Well just call me Jeff.
If that makes it easier for you.
I doubt he was a Jeff. Jeff feels like a name that happened in like no earlier
than 1970.
Gilbert.
I mean, Jeffrey, yeah, but Jeff.
Alright. Gilbert.
Yeah, Gilbert.
Okay.
Call me Gilbert if that makes you feel more comfortable.
It suits me nicely, I think. My nan had an older sister
with exactly the same given name as her.
Her older sister had been put in an asylum
due to various medical conditions,
and she only found out about her in her late 70s.
So your parents did a do-over.
I mean, your grandparents, your your parents did a do-over. I mean, your grandparents, your great-grandparents
did a do-over.
It's like when you, what's it called when you write
over a file?
That.
That's what they did.
That is very sad.
They wrote over the kid file.
It's like, you know what, let's just call the next
one the same thing.
None the wiser.
Oh.
Gilbert.
People do that.
Let's name her Gilbert.
People do that with dogs.
You know, but you can't do that with kids.
I mean.
There are people who have dogs and they just keep naming them the same thing.
There's also the people who...
Really though?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
What?
And they call them like, it would be like Sean Two,
but you just keep calling him Sean, Sean Three,
and it's not clones.
Several people I have seen have done this.
I don't, hold on, how do I feel about this?
You name the dog the same thing.
Now usually it's when you're the kind of people
who are committed to a certain breed of dog.
Not cloning, but just like, we only have Dotsons,
we only have Dobrams, whatever.
But, I mean, they're individual dogs.
I'm not saying I'm an advocate for this.
I'm just saying, think about how bad it is
to do it for kids.
It's like you have a slot,
you have a pet slot in your life
and whatever pet's in it
assumes the name Gus.
Well, it's a way to not get confused.
What?
I call my kids each other's names a lot.
Oh, well I do that.
I guess I'd have both just named them the same thing.
Well, I think you're gonna run into other problems, like differentiating between them.
I already knew this about Jimmy Fallon,
but he was on that Diary of a CEO podcast
and he told this story.
His parents were Jim and Gloria,
and Jimmy has a sister and her name is Gloria.
So it would be like me and Jessie having a daughter
and a son and naming them Rhett and Jessie.
That's what Jimmy found his parents did.
Yeah, I mean, but I bet they called him Little Jimmy.
Well, probably, but what?
By the way, me and my dad have the same name.
And it's also my granddad's name and my son's name.
Yeah, I can see you get a little defensive.
But we are called different things.
Yeah.
And I was called Little Link
in Lincoln's presence, my granddad.
What if you had named Lily Christie?
You wouldn't have done that.
That would have been, that would have been strange, yeah.
It's often done, it's usually done on the man side because you're basically,
you have the whole name is the same.
Yeah.
To do it for the woman.
Right.
It's just, I mean, it raises questions.
Well, I think women might be getting short shrift here.
I mean, Jenna, do women need to be able to
junior? Or the third?
Yeah, we don't, well, we never get to keep our surnames traditionally, so yeah.
But what about...
Let's talk about that.
And that's good.
In this society.
Y'all don't need that.
Let's talk about that.
But I'm saying, can you, don't you want, I'm not gonna give you your own last name,
but I'm gonna give you a junior.
Since things go through the patrilineal side instead of the matrilineal side.
Yeah, well, let's talk about that because... Let's talk about that.
The hyphenated thing was happening for a while.
Hyphenations don't happen as much?
My theory is that the hyphenations happened
and then people started figuring out that,
oh wow, okay, two kids with hyphenated names get together, what happens?
Are we inventing names at that point?
Are we picking the one that sounds the best?
What are we doing?
We're taking one of each and then like,
what's the point of the whole process, right?
I'm not saying I have a solution, I'm just saying that's a problem.
Yeah, I think the solution is completely new last name.
If you're gonna hyphenate, you're saying just invent a new last name.
In a double hyphenated situation?
No, in a single hyphenate. If that's what you want to do, then both of you go to neutral new last
name.
That's gonna make ancestry.com really hard to keep up with.
Well, then...
So you wanna do it for the ancestry.com instead of doing it for the Gram?
I'm an investor.
I was joking about everything, Jenna, but do you wanna be a junior?
Or do you want some man to take your last name one day?
Well, I like my last name. I'm not getting rid of it.
So that'll be for whatever my partner decides.
But do you... I think that each person...
If I were to get married...
Each person keeping their last name is better than hyphenating.
I don't care.
I don't have an opinion.
I don't have an opinion.
She don't care about what you're saying.
I just don't have an opinion if people hyphenate or not.
I'm like, yeah, do whatever you like.
I do think the idea of combining could be fun.
Combining two names, that could be fun.
But I mean, I'm named after my grandmothers,
so I don't necessarily have a junior,
but I'm honoring their memories by carrying their names.
Like my given name isn't really Jenna,
so that's my nickname.
Okay, and of course we know your real name.
You can say it.
Oh, what, Jenna Shortford?
Yeah.
Virginia.
Virginia.
There we are.
And you know my middle name
because it's Lily's middle name.
He doesn't know his daughter's middle name.
Yes he does, come on.
Grace, huh?
There you are.
Grace is it, huh?
There you are.
You had to open the file up.
Your middle name is Grace.
When my wife named her business,
she named it her maiden name.
She's not Jesse McLaughlin, interior,
she's Jesse Lane interiors.
And I like that.
Because I think that it, you know, first of all, there's the idea that people could say,
oh, well, you are using your husband's, you know,
influence or whatever.
And I like the idea that it's just like, no,
this is, that is her thing that stands on its own.
I do remember advising her to go
with Rhett's wife's interior design.
Right, we talked about it for a while.
It rolls off the tongue.
I think it would have helped her.
By this point, I can tell she's regretting it a little bit.
Not riding the coattails.
But how are we gonna, like,
is it the kind of thing where,
I mean, you know this is happening right now,
where there's hyphenating that's happening,
there's probably some new name stuff that's happening.
There's hyphenate hookups happening.
But then there are some couples where the woman,
she's given her last name.
She, he, the man is taking the last name.
The man takes the the last name.
That's happening as well.
I guess it's happening.
Yeah, that's happening.
Yeah, if it's a cooler last name.
Yeah, I think it depends on whose sounds better.
Who wouldn't wanna marry me and become a purdy?
Purdy is a fantastic last name.
If you have a lot of these deep secrets,
you wanna shed that a little bit.
But the combining is something.
Christy's maiden name is White.
Her last name is White.
And of course mine is Neil.
So you combine those together and you got Wheel.
Mm-hmm.
I'm like that would have been good.
Yeah.
The wheels are here.
Link Wheel.
Hold on, what?
I thought your name was Neil.
Oh, I changed it when I got married.
I took the first two letters of my wife's name and got rid of the end.
I think the reason that most people are just like, listen, I understand that this comes from
a patriarchal society or whatever, but there are arguments for continuing the practice
for simplicity. It isn't like, oh, this means that this person's
more powerful or whatever.
It just means that if you don't do that,
you have to, and you're trying to invent a last name,
then all of a sudden you're like, wheel.
And then if you do the opposite and you're like,
okay, well, the traditional thing is to take
the man's last name.
In our family, we have the woman's last name.
Then, you know, you might not wanna have to deal with the
conversations that you have to have because of that.
I mean, not that you should care about what people think,
but sometimes you make a choice to avoid scrutiny.
And I think sometimes that's a valid-
Just to make life easier.
It's just like, ah, yeah, okay, we did,
like, we're very much not traditional people,
but we did the traditional thing because it's tradition.
And this is where the patriarchy comes back to bite ya.
Because it's momentum, if nothing else, it's just momentum.
But there is something to be said for when you get together with everyone
that you're related to and you all have the same name.
There's the family name, like when you go to the so-and-so,
which family reunion did you go to?
The Buchanan Family Reunion.
Yeah, you go to the Buchanan, now you're not a Buchanan because somehow
you lost it along the way.
Yes.
Because that's how it works.
But you go to the Buchanan Family Reunion.
If we start making up names every generation,
there was, you can't do the Family Reunion anymore.
You know?
No, you cannot do it.
And then if you hyphenate,
and then the hyphenates become hyphenated,
and we've got four and then we've got eight,
then we can't even make a card
that invites people to the family reunion.
The t-shirt's gonna just be text.
Yeah, double hyphenate marriages,
I think you're cherry picking one from each.
I think we have to switch it by law for the women's name.
I think the only way to move forward
is matriarchy.
Is matriarchy.
I think the only, we have to have the man take
the woman's name and we have to make it a law.
And I'm running for president and.
I bet you that could.
Technically, technically, just to clarify,
that's not matriarchy, that's matrilineal.
Matriarchy is women just control.
Controlling.
Controlling. I'm for that too.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
We're talking about going all the way.
Man, I'm for that. Oh perfect, let's go all the way. Matrilineal. I'm for that too. Oh yeah, we're talking about going all the way. I'm for that.
Oh perfect, let's call the way.
Matrilineal.
Matrilineal is when the line continues through the women.
Yeah, I'm a man president and my platform is matriarchy.
Yeah, all right, excellent, I love that.
Hawaiian, Hawaiian people.
There's quite a lot of peoples prior to the traditional
patriarchal religions of today that followed the matrilineal lines.
We should try that for a little bit.
Gotta say, it's fun. I mean, I treat, that's how I treat my family.
I refer to every, my grandmother, my grandmother runs the show.
She's the matriarch. Like if I could change,
if we could have gone back
and made everything under her line, sure.
I mean, Perdy, Miller isn't as cool as Perdy,
but every time I talk about my aunt
and my aunts and my grandmothers and my cousins,
it's always, oh, those Miller women.
We got the Miller women,
because it goes, we always bring it back to my grandmother
and her maiden name. Yeah, that's how it back to my grandmother and her maiden name.
Yeah, that's how it is with my Nana.
She's the Buchanan.
I mean, there was a good Neal reunion there for a while,
but the Buchanan stayed stronger.
I don't know, just disseminating.
We had the Cole family reunion,
this is where my brother gets his name.
And I, I mean, it was in Georgia,
so I haven't been in forever,
and I don't know if they even do it anymore.
I think it's interesting.
I feel like a lot of times the women's side of the family,
you end up being closer with like the mother's side.
Like I'm closer to my mother's side.
That's true.
Like all my family is closer to their mother's side.
I'm trying to not let that happen
with my brother and my sister-in-law.
I mean, I love my sister-in-law's side of the family.
They're amazing, but I mean, come on.
I'm pretty cool.
Yep.
You know, trying to be like, hey, hey, niece and nephews.
Yeah, and I think that is because on average,
men tend to be a little bit worse at like staying connected.
Which I think has roots in the matrilineal societies of old
that you tend to,
because the women were the community building.
Right.
We should just embrace it.
I think we should.
Okay.
Give me another family secret though. I do have a family secret that I can share.
Oh, go for it.
Okay, okay.
Is this a Miller family secret or a Purdy?
It is.
It is a Miller family secret.
My aunt's, not my aunt's, my grandmother's sister, Edie, my great aunt Edie, I carry a bit of her spirit in me.
She traveled all over, she was a Rosie the Riveter, she had Mardi Gras beads from New
Orleans, she lived in Vegas for years and had some showgirl stuff.
Really cool woman. Really cool woman.
She passed away maybe eight, nine years ago now, I want to say.
Like a year after she passed, we get someone reaching out to us.
And it is her son that we did not know existed, that she had with a married man when she was in like
her 20s or 30s, gave him up for adoption, no idea he existed, and he found us. And it
was wild.
Did you meet him in person?
I didn't get chances because I was living out here, but I FaceTimed with them
because they flew, they live in Florida, and him and his wife and his daughter
flew to Tennessee to meet my grandmother because my Aunt Edie and my grandmother
lived together in the last eight years or so of my great aunt's life before she passed.
So they went up there to meet my grandmother
and then like my other family members,
my aunt and uncles came over and everything
and we FaceTimed with them.
And he had the same laugh as my aunt Edie.
Like the same laugh, the same kind of smile,
his daughter spitting image of every single one
of the women in my family.
It's uncanny.
So that was a crazy secret we found out.
Was that a 23andMe thing?
Yeah, yeah, it was a 23andMe thing.
And we loved it.
He was so nice.
He was in the Air Force for years.
The father, his father didn't want anything.
He had passed apparently also, but didn't want, like his father didn't want anything, he had passed apparently also, but didn't want,
like his family didn't want anything to do with it
because he was a illegitimate child.
Anyway.
Yeah, cause I'm wondering what's the motivation there
to reach out and reconnect.
I guess it's if you want a better family
than the one that you had.
He wanted to know who his, yeah,
he wanted to know who his real parents were.
Like he was adopted and had that family,
but he wanted to find his real parents and dug in.
Okay, yeah, he never knew.
Yeah, he never knew.
So I understand that.
And then we didn't know that my Aunt Edna
had ever had children.
She had never had children.
She'd only like married and had some step kids.
So we were like, what?
She's got a son?
And she was in no way in touch.
The number of people who had these things revealed.
And then, and now the 23andMe thing that's happening
where you're supposed to delete your data.
Have you deleted your data?
Why?
Oh, you don your data? Why?
Oh, you don't know?
What?
Okay, I told, we talked about it.
Bro, there's multiple emails.
You gotta get back on your laptop.
You're missing too many important things.
And then I need to delete my data?
I think I already made you do this.
I think I already made you do this a year ago
because I was already suspicious back then.
No, he didn't. Did you see me do it
or did I tell you to do it?
He didn't do it.
Because it was multiple steps. We'll take a look.
Because they filed for bankruptcy,
and they are going to be bought by someone else,
and theoretically, you can't trust whatever person
is gonna buy them, and then you're dead.
The thing is, is that through the show,
through Good Mythical Morning,
you and I have submitted our DNA
to at least four different things for all kinds of testing.
I mean, my DNA, you could make me at this point
if you had the technology.
So I'm not that worried about it,
but yeah, you're supposed to delete it
and you can download it.
So I have like my raw data on my computer now,
but I deleted it and got rid of my account.
But it's interesting that the window of time
in which a really high percentage of people in the world
did 23andMe and an alarming percentage of people
found out all these crazy family secrets.
And now they're kind of moving away from that
with what's happening with 23andMe.
It could be this like window of time
in which all these people got reconnected.
I mean, I had this,
I didn't have anything revealed about my family
that I didn't know.
But the thing that happened
is you get all these people who contact you,
like third cousins, third cousins.
You have another third cousin.
I was never interested in that.
And I'm like, I can't even keep up with my friendships.
I don't need third cousin level contacts at this point.
Yeah.
But your parents, your third cousin might as well be
anyone on Earth, in my estimation,
but your parents, your real parents.
It's good to know.
I think you, well, I just think,
and now some people are like, I don't care.
I got adopted.
I don't really wanna know,
but I just think that your genes
are just such a big part of who you are
that I think, I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, some people don't wanna know, and that's fine.
Is there another secret?
Yeah.
Jenna, thanks for sharing your secret.
Yeah, that's the only one I can share.
But you have more.
Maybe another time I'll share the other things.
Oh boy, do I.
This is my family.
Well, my mother casually dropped into conversation
that I was briefly kidnapped as a child.
She had to run out of a museum, down the steps,
across the road and onto a bus before it pulled away,
rest me from, I like that word, rest, with a W,
rest me from the couple that were trying
to quietly abduct me while my parents were distracted
by my upset baby brother in the museum.
I wasn't visible, she says,
and something just told her, go outside.
That's where she saw me in the distance
being led onto the bus.
What?
My family are Christians, and I thank God I wasn't taken.
Jeez.
Wow, almost kidnapped, and then God intervened.
I'm just sticking with the story.
I mean, if you steal somebody's baby,
how do you legitimize that?
Oh, people can easily legitimize that.
Like how do you-
What you mean to yourself or to others?
What do you mean?
I get, like-
Happens all the time.
Then what do you do?
Once you steal a baby, what do I do next?
Do I take it to the DMV?
I mean, I don't, do I get, like, what do you do?
It would be harder to do these days.
What do you do after you steal a baby?
Back in the day, probably just like, you just-
Start calling it Jeff and-
Yeah, go from there.
But you gotta have birth certificates and all that stuff.
That's gonna be tough.
That's gonna be tough.
I'm not planning on doing it.
Hold on to your kids out there, y'all.
It's the kind of thing that you hear about,
but you never really believe is possible.
Yeah.
You think they're lying?
No, I don't believe that.
I don't think they're lying.
I'm just saying that.
Of course it happens.
We gotta move on,
because we need to talk about
whether our advice is worth taking.
We haven't given any advice today,
and that's, I mean, we've done some conjecture on,
you know, matrilineal systems.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But we've given no life advice
because we don't know yet if we should keep doing that.
That's your voicemail.
Hey Rhett and Link, this is Caitlin from Texas.
I just wanted to say thank y'all for responding
to my question about needing advice
for my mother's possible gambling addiction. I took y'all's advice and I'm just going to
stay out of my mama's business, like Link said. Really, it's not her money that she's
gambling on, so I don't honestly see a problem with it other than maybe she's taking advantage
of her friend, but that's for her and her friend to decide.
I am not the police and I'm not her parent.
Thank y'all for giving me that advice.
It's actually given me a peace of mind about it,
but I'm calling again.
Pause it.
You're welcome.
You're welcome. You're welcome.
I think this is a green light. Did you ever doubt?
Not really.
That our advice was applicable?
Not really.
Did I demand to be thanked in a voicemail?
No, but we subliminally.
But I'm glad to get it.
Send that message that we were looking for this.
And you know what?
It's opened up a world of ease for her.
Peace of mind, I hear.
Peace of mind?
You know what?
You can't put a price on peace of mind.
We give you a piece of our mind
and it gives you peace of mind.
Put that on a t-shirt.
Is that the new paradigm of Ear Biscuits?
No. Pieces of our mind give you peace of mind.
No, because then we have to say something different
at the top and then you'll have a difficult time with that.
But I assume that this experience that she's had,
a positive one taking our advice,
which is giving peace of mind,
is something that is applicable across the board.
100% of the time, I think it's safe to assume
that has happened based on this one voicemail.
Yeah.
So we are given the big green light.
This is what you call data sampling.
You don't have time to go and look at every single result.
You just put a couple or maybe one onto a graph time to go and look at every single result,
you just put a couple or maybe one onto a graph and then you plot your trajectory.
Yes.
And that's what we've done.
I do think because you called in and gave us this update,
you do deserve to ask the question
that you seem like you were about to ask,
so we'll let you do that.
Okay, yes.
I have another question for y'all
if you're willing to answer it.
I watch DMM a lot, It's one of my comfort shows and I was just wondering what were your comfort shows or comfort music or just anything that comforts you. Y'all
help me feel less lonely sometimes so I appreciate that and yeah, what brings you
comfort and yeah, hope y'all have a great day.
Love y'all, bye.
We're always glad to hear that our content is comforting.
It's just something to snuggle up and just be at ease with.
You can put it on in the background,
you can watch episodes that you've watched a million times,
and it just makes you feel like the stakes are low.
You know, for me there are two,
maybe revelations that have occurred.
The first was the revelation that our show
and our shows were comfort content.
And I think the reason that that wasn't on my radar show and our shows were comfort content.
And I think the reason that that wasn't on my radar
is because that's not or wasn't traditionally
a thing in my own life.
Like I did not, I haven't ever,
unless I have things that I like,
genres that I like, types of books that I like,
subjects that I like to go back to.
But in terms of a fully packaged show
or movie, or I don't go back to the,
I have traditionally not gone back to the same things.
So the first, and that was a, finding out that people
enjoyed what we did as this comfort content,
understanding that was a concept,
that was initially a difficult thing for me to accept.
Okay.
Because it framed what we do in a way
that wasn't consistent with my intentions.
Can I elaborate on that?
Yes, you're saying not because the intention when we make
something is not for it to be so passive, like, but it's not,
comfort doesn't mean background, so maybe that's not what you're saying.
No, no, no, I mean that, especially before GMM,
and I mean GMM's been around for a long time, but like in the early days of GMM,
we were like, okay, this makes sense
as a way to connect with people,
not knowing where our careers were gonna go
and not knowing how much that life,
how important that lifeline to people
who actually knew who we were and what we were doing
and cared about what we were doing.
That was the initial reason that we did it.
Yeah.
And I think it did accomplish that.
But then when we began to hear that,
oh, I actually depend on this as like,
I am a person who watches this as it's in my daily routine.
Now we talked, and the crazy thing is,
I don't know why I didn't see this because we talked about
in the first episode of Good Mythical Morning, we hope that you make this
a part of your daily routine.
But I was thinking about like habitual viewership,
but because I didn't have a point of reference
for comfort content in my own life,
I never anticipated it.
And then I just think there's something that happens
when you're like, oh, I didn't make this
to make you comfortable.
You know, as stupid as that sounds,
but I fully embrace it now, now that I understand it.
Now I understand what people are saying when they say that.
They're not saying that I don't pay attention to it,
even though I'm sure there's people who are like,
I just put it on the background, which is fine.
You know what, there's no reason to like,
Yeah, it's more of the-
Stay focused on it all the time.
Consistency, it's every day at the same time,
and it's a similar format.
It's the same experience,
but different specifics every single day.
Yeah, but the other side of the coin was,
I never, never go and read a book again.
I never watch a movie again. I never watch a movie again.
I never watch reruns or anything.
See, I'm with you on this.
And I'm relating.
That's changing for me.
Before you go to the changing, I'm relating to this.
I didn't see Good Mythical Morning in that way
because I mean, when I was growing up,
I would, my only experience in comfort viewing was
when I'd wake up every morning and I'd watch the Jetsons.
Every morning, not just Saturday?
Every morning.
It was a weekday thing.
Every morning, it came on at such a time
that I would wake up and almost go back to sleep
on the couch. During the summer
or during the year?
No, before I went to school.
I would get up.
What kind of time did you have?
And I had, I would get up with enough time to get,
I had a sleeping bag, and I would get something to eat,
I think maybe a bowl of cereal or something.
And then I would get in my sleeping bag
and I would watch the Jetsons every morning, I'm talking like grade school
and the middle school.
So you had a bed, you wouldn't get back into the bed,
you would get into a sleeping bag.
In the living room.
In the living.
In the living room.
And I would prop up and I'd eat my cereal
and then sometimes I'd like fall back asleep a little bit.
And I knew when the Jetsons ended, I had to get up
and I had to do my stuff.
Yeah, I would have been allowed to do that.
If my dad called me before school
in a sleeping bag watching TV, he'd be like,
nope, nope.
It doesn't matter what time it was,
it's like, nope, we're not starting that.
We would have never had that.
Would have never taken place.
But for no good reason.
Other than just like, you let a kid get in a sleeping bag
and eat his breakfast, watch cartoons before school,
what the hell next is he gonna do?
That's what my dad would have said.
Probably not go to school.
Yeah, right.
Probably be a loser.
Right, yeah.
But I proved them all wrong.
You proved them wrong.
Because my mom understood that I needed
that comfort connection every morning
to slowly wake up in my own world.
Oh, I slowly woke up, but just in time
to get my ass out the door most of the time.
You wouldn't get out of bed.
You're like our kids now.
Oh yeah.
If you can tell.
Yeah.
No, I would always get out of bed
because I wanted to see the Jetsons, man.
Yeah.
You need something like the Jetsons
to get you out of bed in the morning. George Jetson ain't gonna get me out of bed because I wanted to see the Jetsons, man. Yeah. You need something like the Jetsons to get you out of bed in the morning.
George Jetson ain't gonna get me out of bed.
And that's why I was,
I mean that theme song, that was great.
Meet George Jetson.
Yeah, I mean I enjoyed the show but not every day.
Daughter Judy, she was hot.
Jane, his wife, now I'm finding her hot.
Yeah.
Judy used to be the one for me. Now it's Jane.
What about the robot? Rosie.
Rosie too, man.
I find Rosie a little bit hot.
Astro.
She was thick with two C's.
I'll tell ya, Rosie had more of an Astro than Astro,
you know what I'm saying?
You see what I'm saying about that?
My comfort viewing was the Jetsons.
And then after that, I haven't really had any comfort viewing.
I don't re-watch movies either.
If Christy gets on a plane, she's afraid of planes,
so she needs to be comforted.
She watches the Pitch Perfect movies.
Oh really?
Pitch Perfect.
That's her comfort viewing.
Do my kids have any comfort viewing?
I think...
When the kids reached a certain age, they started watching The Office and then Parks and Rec.
And then the younger kids, when they got a little older, they would do it.
So they fought...
All three of them went through the wave at a different time.
But as the younger kids went through it,
I would notice that the older kids would still pop in
and sit down and be, I think, comforted by the nostalgia.
Because you can, you know,
oh, this is season three, episode eight.
I remember this one.
You know, and it feels good.
I do understand for some sort of comedy
to be able to step back into it.
It's actually a bit fascinating.
There's no stakes.
That this isn't a part of your,
like you're a collector of things.
Right.
You're a creature of habit.
I'm actually surprised you don't have this.
I am beginning to have it.
I must have it with music, but that's hard to pin down.
What do you have it for now?
Well, first of all, music...
Songs are like...
Who listens to a song and is like,
I don't want to listen to that song again.
I think in order for it to be a comfort music,
it has to be like, I go back to this album.
And I do have a few of those, but I just don't really think of it that way.
It's just more of a mood thing than like,
I always put this record on and it puts me in a good mood
or it loosens me up or relaxes me.
I don't actually have that very specifically.
What are you doing now?
Well, I mean, this is developing. This is not like, it's...
One of the things that I'm doing is,
if Jessie and I are going to watch a movie at home,
a lot of times I will choose a movie that I have seen
and I know is good that she hasn't seen.
Okay. Which that was, I always was like,
I don't eat at the same restaurant twice.
I don't watch the same movie twice.
I don't read the same book twice
because there's so much shit out there
that I want to enjoy.
And I don't wanna miss out on what might be better, right?
But then as you start getting older,
you realize, yeah, but there are some things
that I know I will enjoy.
And why don't I just do that?
Because I'm guaranteed to have a good time.
I don't know, and there's such like a flip,
a switch flipped in the past few years for me.
I was like, oh, we can go back to the same restaurant.
We can, I can watch, especially comedies.
I don't watch anything but comedies again.
I can watch this comedy that I enjoyed
and I might just sit and watch, you know.
30 minutes.
Well, no, I might, and I also might do it by myself.
I might be like, oh, I'm gonna watch
The Big Lebowski by myself because I know it so well now
and you start seeing new things or whatever.
On the plane, a lot of times, because on Delta,
which my favorite airline, they've got the office.
They've got a few seasons of the office at any given time.
And that's just always gonna be funny.
Always easy to jump back into.
They also have curb your enthusiasm,
which I also enjoy in a different way from The Office.
There's a different kind of comfort watching.
Mostly Curb Your Enthusiasm,
I'm seeing episodes that I've never seen before though,
because I still haven't seen all of those.
But it's kind of like predictable,
it's like this is gonna be predictably the same thing
every time and I know the kind of situations
that Larry David's gonna get himself into.
And I'm just gonna watch that unfold.
Versus, let me go to the new releases
and see if there's something that I feel like
I should have seen.
So you end up watching things out of this sense
of obligation of, well, that movie,
a lot of people said that movie was good
and that's a new one, I kinda feel like I should watch that.
So what now do you wanna watch it?
You know, that has begun to enter the equation
a little bit more.
But I will say the-
I think my comfort viewing is the back of my eyelids.
Naps. Naps.
That's my comfort viewing.
Darkness.
Pfft.
Yeah, I'm not gonna be able to nap.
So comfortable.
So comfortable.
If I could nap, I would nap.
I don't know, I'm jealous.
But the thing that's been-
I'd much rather nap than watch a movie.
Hitting me lately.
Well, and sometimes movies will make you nap.
Is, you know, I go back and read that,
my dude, I am reading a book again for the second time.
I'm reading two books right now.
Well, I'm reading more than that,
but I'm reading two books for the second time right now.
Charlotte's Web and-
Nope.
I am reading A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle, which is great.
And I'm reading-
Creativity.
The Creative Act, The Creative Act?
Yes.
By Rick Rubin.
Little dry.
And, wow.
And-
Needs more cats.
I think it is, it's like soul nurturing
for a creative person. Like it is, it's like soul nurturing for a creative person.
Like it is just, you know, like the Eckhart Tolle is like a,
it feels like, I mean, this is gonna be sacrilegious if you think the Bible is God's word.
I've read the Bible a lot, so I kind of been there,
done that, but like, it's like, it provides things for me
that the Bible never did. So I've been there, done that. But it's like, it provides things for me that the Bible never did.
So I like to go back to that
and the way that he puts things.
Like what? What do you mean?
That cartole.
No, no, what do you mean by that?
What things does it provide?
Just practical wisdom.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not saying the Bible doesn't have practical wisdom
in it, I'm just saying I've read it before
and kind of spent the majority of my life in it
and so I'm kind of elsewhere at this point.
But the creative act is just like,
I just, I wanna just keep stopping it in writing.
Like I have to keep stopping it,
because this is just passing over me.
But one of the things he talks about
is what you consume basically.
And like, because as an artist, you are somebody,
or you're an aspiring artist,
I don't wanna be pretentious and call myself an artist,
I am aspiring to be an artist.
And what you take in impacts what you put out, right?
And so the idea of all of the shit that I can put
into my brain, which could just be an endless supply
of reality television and short form social media videos
and news.
And if that's the only input, in my estimation,
that's like putting something that's not actual gasoline
into your car that runs on gas, right?
You're not, it's not gonna work right.
You're definitely, the thing that you're gonna make
with that raw material is not gonna be any better
than any of that shit that you just put in there, right?
But if you put things in the engine that are aspirational,
like the best things that have ever been made,
and you don't have to do this all the time,
but like the best movies that have ever been made,
the best TV that's ever been made,
the best music that's ever been made,
his point is if you're bringing those great,
timeless works into you,
then the raw material that's coming into you
that then you end up creating on your own
is gonna be that much, much better.
And so, this is working a little bit
against the comfort viewing thing
because then I wanna go and be like, okay,
what are all the things that I've missed?
What are all the great movies that I've never watched?
Right, that I'm like, this is a objectively great movie
because enough people subjectively think that it's good
so it must be objectively good.
And so I find myself in that place right now,
like wanting to line those up and like sit down with Shepard
and watch these things and be like,
let's watch the best movies that ever been made,
Shepard, the ones that we haven't seen.
Okay, I do think that that's different than comfort viewing,
which is like, I've watched this 20 times.
I'm sorry, it's precisely what I'm saying.
I'm saying that it's a completely different exercise
because the comfort viewing is not about
something going into you so then you can then create
something, it's about you being comforted.
Yeah, so what you're saying, it doesn't sound like
you're about to get that.
Unless you're gonna read it.
I'm saying that's the choice that I've got to make.
The creative act. Unless you're gonna read it like for the 20th time.
Just because the words wash over you in a proverbial way and it makes you feel okay.
Yeah, I don't listen to the creative act out of comfort.
And I don't listen to the New Earth out of comfort.
It's just more like, I need this information.
Like I need this information in my brain
in order to function as a human in this society.
So what do you do for comfort?
What do I do for comfort?
I already told you, I'm saying.
I just don't think.
I watch movies that I know are gonna be funny.
I watch sitcoms that I know are gonna be funny.
In terms of media, that's what I do.
Musically, I listen to instrumental jazz made
from people
in the Scandinavian part of the world.
Okay.
That's typically like Brimmer McCoy.
That's Brimmer McCoy radio.
And whatever comes down that line
is gonna make me feel good.
Okay.
That makes me comfort.
Okay.
And like now that Locke is home, the music that my kids, I have a lot of
crossover with them, but then there are these places that we depart, and it'll be
like 7.30 in the morning, and they'll be playing some...
Goom-tick-a-doom-tick-a-doom.
Just great. It's just so loud.
Like house music?
And I feel like such a dad. I'm like, nope.
That's what Lincoln is doing. Lincoln came home and now he's just like... It's not house loud. Like house music? I feel like such a dad. That's what Lincoln is doing.
Lincoln came home and now he's just like...
It's not house.
All with the goong-tick-a-doong-tick-a-dooms.
No, they're not playing house.
They're playing like...
It's whatever dubstep became.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Not...
EDM?
Yeah, it's like EDM-ish, but it's got some...
There's some melody that happens.
Like drum and bass, but like just...
Not like instrumental drum and bass. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr electrical sounds that are happening. It's like EDM trap music is kind of what dubstep. Yeah, and it just feels like the kind of music that if you had accidentally or
purposely killed someone and you needed to saw up their body and put it in a
suitcase, it's the kind of music that you would listen to while you needed to saw
up a human body.
Wow.
That's the kind of music that you would... Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Comfort sawing. And it's like, I just wanna have breakfast, guys.
Let's put on some Scandinavian jazz.
So I can eat my poached eggs.
Dear listener, I hope that you have squeezed
some comfort out of our conversation today.
squeeze some comfort out of our conversation today. Um, we wish you the most comfortable vibes that we can conjure.
And we're sending them to you now.
And maybe this episode will be the one that you go back to.
20 times, 40 times, 100 times.
Or like Rhett's estranged grandfather,
seven times. Seven times. Don't forget to call us. Heett's estranged grandfather. Seven times.
Don't forget to call us.
He's not estranged, he's dead.
1-888.
The ultimate estrangement.
EarPod One is how you can call us.
And that will bring some sort of quiet comfort to us to hear your voice.
On a voicemail.
Oh. It comforts me.
And we should remind you that next week we're taking a break.
So we're taking one week off from Ear Biscuits,
the week of July 7th, 2025.
But we'll be back for summer episodes the following week.
In our summer episodes, we're doing the minis? Is that happening?
Yes, it's many in the sense that instead of like an hour 12, it'll be like 50
minutes.
Okay.
Oh, really?
Yeah, that is many.
Your minis.
That's what you're hoping for.
Your minis, yes.
So, okay, maybe that'd be even...
I thought they were gonna be 20.
You know what, maybe it'll be even shorter.
Maybe 50.
We're gonna have to figure out what they're gonna be.
What's too short for it no longer being comfortable?
It's gonna be zero next week.
That's all that matters right now.
Then you have to see how long they're gonna be
when for the summer.
And also remember,
well Good Mythical Summer's happening on the GMM channel
and Good Mythical Weekend is gonna continue
throughout the summer. Right.
Which is on every Saturday.
Yes, on the good GMM channel.
So enjoy that.
Bye bye.
I've been watching Good Mythical Morning while studying
for the past three weeks, probably every night.
And now, every time I hear just a generic white guy talking,
I think it's Rhett.
Like we were watching Shrek, me and my girlfriend, and I could hear Rhett in like all of the
white guy voices.