Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - We Hear a Little TMI | Ear Biscuits Ep 401

Episode Date: November 6, 2023

Get your bowls and spoons ready, because Rhett & Link have made a cereal! In this episode, Rhett & Link discuss how their new cereal MishMash came to be, find out that they might be playing a bigger role in some people’s bedrooms than they thought, and someone reveals that Rhett’s “Yoatmeal” actually already exists. Plus, Link’s new fashion accessory to end the tyranny of pockets. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This, this, this, this is Mythical. to reward Slayer. Rise to it with the BMO Eclipse Rise Visa Card and get rewarded for paying your credit card bill in full and on time each month. Terms and conditions apply. Click the banner or visit bmo.com slash rise to learn more. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Rhett. And I'm Link. This week at the Roundtable of Dim Lighting, we got to address some voicemails. I mean, you know, we put our number out there, 1-888-EAR-POD-1.

And, of course, we put your voicemails at the end of episodes. But we just thought it was necessary to start addressing some of these directly. So we're going to be doing that today. We're also going to be talking a little bit about the cereal that we've developed. What is that like? We'll tell you. Like the actual development process. It's actually more interesting than you might first think when you think about serial development. If you're going to take a class in serial development...

You can call us and let us know that it wasn't interesting. If you take a class in serial development, you might be like, I've got serial development at 9 a.m. on Mondays. We're going to be the most interesting serial development professors you've ever had. Okay.

Let's hear a voicemail. ever had. Okay. Let's hear a voicemail. Rhett, oh my gosh. You talking about mixing oatmeal and yogurt. You say it needs to be a thing. It is already a thing. It's called Swedish oatmeal. You just take the oats and mix them directly in the yogurt, add whatever kind of fruits, nuts, seeds that you want to it, put it in the fridge, let it sit overnight, and then the oats soak up all that yogurt and you get all the good benefits from it, especially when you add stuff like chia seeds and pumpkin seeds and stuff like that as well so just a recommendation for you guys try that out you will love it okay uh a i'm not swedish i'm often mistaken for being sw. I'm not. Just because I'm tall and have hints of blonde

doesn't mean I'm Swedish. Two, thank you for that. Yeah, well, as we discovered on the show... Do you want to thank her for that? As we discovered on the show, people had already not only discovered that you could do it, but now I guess it was already a thing. And that's technically not what I did.

No, it's not. It sounds better than what I did. She's describing... I put a dollop of yogurt in the oatmeal. Yeah, she's describing overnight... Yote meal. Yote. Gert. Yeah.

Yeah, overnight oats with a yogurt. Have you done more, though? Because... And does anybody call it yote meal? I only do it at airports. Can't you give the guy, just give him, just give him a little discovery. Well, here's the thing. I think, here's the thing. I think this is sending me into a bit, not a full existential crisis, but you know, when I thought that I had invented something, I was super happy. Now, I suspected— You were strutting around saying, yolk meal, yolk meal.

Now, when I was in the airport and I put some yogurt into my oatmeal, I thought, well, I can't be the first guy to do this. I mean, it's probably happened at least on accident a million times. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? If you've got yogurt and you've got oatmeal, they're going to mix. But when I thought that I had come up with something novel that I'd never heard of, I felt happy. And then when I discovered that a lot of people had already discovered it, you know, I felt like, you know, I'm not going to use a Columbus analogy here

You know, I'm not going to use a Columbus analogy here because that would be insensitive and wrong because I just we're just talking about food here. We're not talking about like exploiting an entire culture or anything like that. I hope not. But I realize I did not discover America and I did not discover Yolk Meal. And I am intrigued by this. But it sounds like, I don't know, it sounds like quite a process. I'm just talking about being in an airport buffet,

essentially, and grabbing. It's different. You discovered something different, man. Yeah, I think you could probably also be done at hotels. Yeah, kind of a little continental breakfast. I'm honestly not planning on doing it at home. I don't know why. You're too good for it? No, no.

It's not good enough for you? No. It was invented by someone else? You of all people should know. You're Columbus? You of all people should know. You're exploiting people? I'm trying to treat myself in a certain environment.

Oh. First of all, a very linked thing. Yeah, it's my pupil. I'm not going to do this in certain environment. This is a very, first of all, a very link thing. Yeah, it's my pupil. I'm not going to do this in this environment. I'm going to do it in this environment. So I look forward to that. You can look forward to traveling. Right. It's like, oh, did you enjoy your trip? Yes, I started it with some yote meal, and it was all downhill from there.

I can't wait to go on another yote meal adventure. Right. What is that? Oh, that's just when I travel. That's when I air travel. But I eat some yote meal. Or if I stop at a motel. I've never heard the term. And no one's saying, oh, yeah, the term yote meal is everywhere and all about.

That's the part that's really missing in all this is that you came up with the name. The marketing. And that's what matters. We didn't invent cereal, but we invented our cereal. Mishmash. There you go. Mishmash. Could be said either way.

I still have not had any of your yolk meal, but. Well, it's not really mine. I mean, you know, I'm not responsible for the making of the yolk meal or the yogurt in the scenario where I had it. But that is what I was referring to when we were talking about the oatmeal. We were like, we got something that we're developing. It was the cereal.

I remember now that that's what I was. Oh, you teased that at that point. I think I was teasing it at that point. I don't know. Let's play another voicemail. Hi, Rhett and Link. I'm going to stay anonymous for this one, but I've been with my boyfriend five years in December,

and I just want to let you guys know that early on in our relationship, I disclosed to him that, oh, I love Rhett and Link, so we watched a lot of you guys, and you guys would be in the background. We would have sex. Yeah, do with that what you will. Come again? I mean, literally.

We would be in the background when you had sex. Okay, well. Stink making them horny. Yeah, well, there's not a lot of stink coming off of GMM. Well, you know, the show stinks to some people. How do we process this? Okay. I mean, honestly, I'm looking for more details.

We were in the background. Don't you remember? Especially since you remained anonymous. Did we enhance? I feel like we were like, when she says you guys were in the background, it's like we were like voyeurs. We were like watching. We were like peeking over the edge of the mattress.

Don't say we. When you talk about being in the corner while someone else is having sex and peeking at them, that's your thing. You said that. Well, no, it's not my thing. I never said it was my thing. It's not my thing.

You brought it up! What are you saying to somebody? You know what? You're Christopher Columbus. You brought it up. What I'm saying is that my understanding is that we were just doing our show, they made the decision to turn it on while they were copulating. Yes. I wasn't peeking at anything. Hold on. I didn't even know it was happening.

So the story in your mind. It sounds like you want to be in the room while a couple is having sex. Jerry Falwell. Jerry Falwell Jr. Much. Liberty U. Shout out to Liberty U. What?

Hey, listen. No to that. I'm just saying that we were. You and your Miami pool boy. We were on in the background. It was like we were... Is that like we're standing in the background lurking? No.

You know? That's what you want it to be. I mean, I'm not getting on that train with you. If when she says that she puts us on a screen and has sex to us, the first thing I think... Well, she didn't say that either. The first thing I think is not what I'm doing. She said we were on in the background, not they started having sex and then they're saying, you know what, let's pause a second, let's put on GMM.

I don't think that's the order it happened. But the thing that I was wondering about was not whether or not we were there peeking at them, it's whether or not they're looking at us while they're having sex. Of course they are! But we're in the background. I want to know if this couple is making eye contact with either of us. Sometimes the background becomes the foreground.

While they're having sex. Because sometimes if I make eye contact with my dog during sex, I'll just go limp like that. You know what I'm saying? I don't like my dogs to be in the... They're in the room sometimes, but we put them in their crate. They're in the background. But we put them in the crate. Don't keep them in the bed. Are they talking? Are they eating food? Are they making dumb jokes?

Well, but just sometimes you'll just look over and like Sean will have his little snout like through one of the holes in the crate just kind of looking like, I'm sad. Let me back into bed. And it's just like I see that, and I'm in, you know, I'm a sex machine, and then all of a sudden I'm looking at my dog. That's the only thing I can think about is the fact that this person is copulating and then hearing us talk about, like, first of all, hearing our chewing, which 90% of the show is just smacking noises at this point. Chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp.

Is that sexy? I don't think so. Yes, I do. I do. Actually, the more I think about it, if you heard us chewing and you didn't know what it was while you were having sex, it might sound sexy. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Now, first of all, my dogs know to look away. You've trained them. That's the one thing you've gotten your dogs to do, is to look away while you have sex.

No, they just know to look away, man. They know to look away. I don't think Sean can see this. They bury their noses. They know. They know when something's hanky and panky. Barbara doesn't look. Yeah, Barbara's smart. Sean's not smart. He's just like, when am I going to get out of here? What are y'all doing?

It's not fun anymore. Well, we're honored. You're going to say that. We are honored to be A part of the festivities In a passive Non-lurking Non-peaking way

Yeah, non-Columbus If we're what it takes To get you there As a couple We're happy to be of service I would just say Don't become dependent on us. You know, some people can do things in their environment where they begin to need those things in their

environment in order to complete the act. And I would just say, I mean, we have no plans to stop the show at any time in the near future. And I guess you could always watch reruns if we did, but you know what? If the power goes out, your phone's dead, you don't have internet. Right, you still need to be able to sex. You need to be able to have sex without us being present. That's all I'm saying.

That's just, maybe every once in a while, do it without us. Now, the other part of this is that we become a horny trigger for this couple. Pavlovian, you might say. Speaking of dogs. You come home from some errands, and GMM is on.

Every day. Every day we're on. What if you stumbled upon us in public? I mean, what's that going to be like? That's going to be weird for you. That's going to be weird for us. And you will not ask. I, for one, will not peek at you.

Lincoln speak for himself. Yes, I can. I won't either. Okay, good. Gracious. See these, you know, the things you guys tell us, like bring it on. Bring it on. Keep calling us.

like bring it on bring it on keep calling us i i enjoy learning stuff that i didn't know that now is going to impact my performance on my show i'm not going to be thinking about it i'm only going to be thinking about i can't think about it is anybody sorting the mail doing the dirty getting the hanky and the panky i'll freeze up i'll freeze up if i start thinking about that if i start thinking about people having sex while I'm doing my job, I won't be able to do my job. In fact, I'm going to have a difficult time

next episode. It's okay. I think I'll be better because of it. Okay. All right. Well, all balance is out. Yeah. Your teen requested a ride, but this time, not from you. It's through their Uber Teen account. It's an Uber account that allows your teen to request a ride under your supervision with live trip tracking and highly rated drivers. Add your teen to your Uber account today. We're going to talk about our cereal.

And it's also the thing that we're going to show to you right now so you can know where you can go and get a little taste of it if you want. Now, I'll just say it now so we don't forget. Eatmishmash.com, that's the website where you can... This is basically DTC, direct-to-consumer, right? You're the consumer. Maybe at some point, if this goes very well, this will end up on shelves somewhere. You'll never eat. But, I mean, we can only

hope for that. But really, we just wanted to end up in your bowls so you can enjoy it. We've got two flavors. Sweet Mac and Mellow, which is not cheese flavored. It looks like a box of mac and cheese. Which is fine. We thought that was cool. You know, we box of mac and cheese. Which is fine.

We thought that was cool. You know, we're a little bit weird. The first pasta cereal ever. As far as we know, it is the first pasta-shaped cereal. It just tastes like good sweet cereal with some sweet marshmallows. It's lovely. But why make one when you can come out of the gate with two strong and complimentary yet distinct cereal flavors? Peanut butter and honey sandwich.

We call it mishmash because mishmash is like, it's a fun and unexpected mixture. This is something that we do when it comes to mythical foods a lot on the show. A lot of unexpected combinations. We're curious. And, yeah, so putting mac and cheese in a cereal is quite a mishmash. Peanut butter and honey is a tried and true mishmash from our childhood. But we had never had a cereal that combined those two flavors. Right.

And in our research, it had not been done. Maybe we didn't research enough, but it's not being done right now except by us. Right. We invented these just like we invented Yolk Meal.

Well, no, this is more significant because Yolk Meal... People are going to be calling me, there's already a mishmash cereal that even voicemails. Well, I have sex to your cereal.

We're screwed. I have sex to your cereal. We're screwed. I have sex with your cereal. Right, we don't need to hear about that. We don't need to hear about that. As long as you buy it. The box does double as a game. Not just cool stuff on the back. Well, the back is actually an illustration

of what you could do. When you have the box and you unfold it, both of these turn into two different games that you can play with the cereal. But let's talk a little, again, eatmishmash.com, but let's talk about some of the unexpected things that you run into when you're

developing a cereal. Welcome to Cereal Development 101. It's 9am. Sir, you're already sleeping. Not cool. We're two professors. I was going to talk. We do not have an overhead projector or a lesson plan,

so we may talk over each other fairly regularly. I can't figure out how to get this smart board to work. Smart board. As Link said, as Professor Neil said, a lot of people who are in our position, you know, make YouTube videos and get the opportunity to do other cool stuff like make products, they tend to have companies approach them and then they say things like, hey, we've got a cereal that we've already developed.

Slap your name on it. We would love you to call it Rhett and Link cereal or Mythical cereal or whatever. And you know us well enough to know that that's not how we do things around here at Mythical. Yeah, it's not fun. It's not fun. Are you okay? Jamie, are you gonna make it? Are you gonna make it, Jamie?

You are hurting. Just let it out. Just hack it out. Do you need some cereal? There you go. Boy, that is crunchy. We could just throw some Macaroni cereal Sounds like granola

Is coming out of your lungs Right now Oh my god Did you have some water Go down the wrong pipe No I'm okay I'm okay What happened

I don't know To be completely honest I feel like Doubled over Yeah like something just... The spirit of the cereal joined my body before I was ready. Well... Wow.

You're still crying. If you need to... You're crying. You're choking. If you need to take a break, just listen. You're clearly dying. But we got a show to do, so can you wait to die? When this is over?

Yeah, hold on. Let me postpone. Okay. You might need to just... Just, need to just rattle the lungs. Get the COVID all out here on everybody. I did take multiple COVID tests. It's not COVID. I do have a little smidge of bronchitis.

Oh, okay. Okay, so you're actually sick. Don't be embarrassed. Be proud. Not contagious. I have a doctor's note in my car. You are now the object of all of our ridicule. This is our way of caring for you, Jamie.

I love it. Keep it coming. No, just get back to cereal, maybe. Pardon the interruption. Good gosh. It sounded sharp when it came up. Well, let's move away from the coughing back to the cereal. I don't want people to make too much of a connection between those two things.

Don't call it crunchy, cough crunch. If you hack up our cereal, it tastes just as good a second time. So as I was saying, class, you could just put your name on a cereal. We didn't want to do that. We wanted to develop a cereal from the ground up. Because that's more fun. Yeah. We thought, well want to do that. We wanted to develop a cereal from the ground up. Because that's more fun. Yeah. We thought.

Well, it was fun. We wanted to innovate. We were kind of like, if we're going to do something like this, which it makes sense, in one sense, for us to make a cereal, we have a morning show going on 12 years.

You know, a lot of people enjoy their breakfast while they watch Good Mythical Morning, so it makes sense to develop a cereal. Proceed with caution on that front. Link's a huge cereal guy. He eats cereal at all times of the day. Oh, yeah.

I highly recommend it. Mostly at night at this point, though, in my observation. Mostly at night. Usually it's your last meal. Yeah. Yep. I had some last night right before I went to bed. So the general idea was develop something that looked like something we would have enjoyed as kids,

but is something that we can enjoy now. And also, I mean, kids are going to like it too. But we developed it for ourselves and our taste buds. And we tasted a lot of cereal. I mean, as it was being developed, it would always show up in these containers. And we actually poured out of this container. Now, I mean, this is not the most appetizing of containers. So it's like we're pouring little bits into bowls and we're sitting in a conference room

like tasting cereal. Well, sometimes it would show up in bags. I'm like, first of all, I was like, I've made it. I am professionally tasting cereal. Jamie's gonna take a break. You're just gonna leave. It's fine. We're good. We're good. Everything's rolling.

It's all automatic. She's gotta really let it out. Let's see if we can hear her. Oh, she'll be fine. Hacking up along. She'll be fine. Hacking up along. She'll be fine. We tasted so many different types of pasta cereals that were custom made just for us.

Well, the thing is, is that... Big pastas! Little pastas! When we had the idea to do the macaroni-shaped cereal, we didn't know anything about this. They were like, uh, well... First of all, the company that we were working with wasn't expecting us to go so hard and be like, we're going to request a whole new shape of cereal.

And they were like, well, they have to make the machine, like the extruder, that then makes the cereal because you're going to make this stuff en masse. Right. And that's where the price, it gets pricey when you're having to create tooling. And there was like questions, do you really wanna do this?

And we were like, well yeah, we like, yeah, we do. Yeah, pasta. So there was. And cereal. So you'll see when you get one of these macaroni shaped. Pump it out. But it actually, it actually. These are, this is not it. This is not, this is. But actually, um... See, these are...

Actually... These are... This is not it. This is not. This is... These are the ones that look like dicks. Yeah, yeah. It's funny. Again, the ones that are coming to you are a little bit different than this because this is actually just a tasting batch that we had because there's so many things.

Like, these are the ones that came out, and then the extruder would have a little bit of bulge on the end, and so they kind of look like a phallus. Well, with a little ball sack on the end. They taste good. Sure, they do. But the thing I was getting at is that these things are hollow, because we could have done them not hollow, but we wanted to do them hollow,

because macaroni is hollow. So you can literally take these and slurp up milk or spit out milk. Do we even have... If you want to do that. There's none of the marshmallows in this either, because not only do we taste all types of pastas, we tasted all types of marshmallows. Big ones, little ones, fluffy ones, crunchy ones, crunchy ones. And interestingly, so the place where the cereal was made,

and a lot of these facilities are like this, was a kosher facility, right? And marshmallows are not kosher. But something called Marbit, which I don't, I'm not 100% sure that we ended up using exactly Marbit, but so when you eat Lucky Charms,

a marshmallow in Lucky Charms, like a cereal marshmallow, is not a regular marshmallow because you put a regular marshmallow in milk, which we tried. Yeah, who knew? To see what would happen. You do that and see what happens. It's like already a little bit mushy, but what you want is you want the crunch of that little marshmallow,

those marshmallows in Lucky Charms. It's so satisfying. It's a totally different thing. It starts to soak up a little bit of milk. And that doesn't have to have the gelatin in it that makes it non-kosher. So, I don't know. I feel like we learned a whole lot. But we tasted like four different types of marshmallows,

landed on the size, the texture, the shape. I do feel like I was living my dream, you know. As much as I love being a cereal consumer, being a cereal developer was, I don't know, this is like a milestone moment for me, especially because the peanut butter and honey sandwich was very dear to my heart. So when we started developing what that would look and feel like,

there was the cinnamon toast crunch comparison in terms of, okay, well, they use toast pieces. That's what it looks like. It's supposed to look like toast. And ours looks like a sandwich in a different way. But there was one iteration. The first iteration. Where it was literally peanut butter and honey on bread

that was then chopped up, dehydrated. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And it's like a crouton almost. And we were like, this is interesting. Well, it tasted incredible. Yes. But as soon as you put milk on it, it turned to what bread turns into in milk.

It's like when I would go down to feed the ducks little pieces of bread, and if they didn't eat bread real quick, then all of a sudden it was like a mushy mess. And so then the quest became to make a piece of cereal that actually was a piece of cereal that had a consistency that would remain crunchy in milk. Right. That tasted like that dehydrated peanut butter and honey sandwich. There's a big difference in consistency between these two.

They're so distinct. What do you mean consistency? Well, the peanut butter and honey is, that thing will stay really, really crunchy. You know when we did the crunch test? Yeah. And we determined which cereals get soggy. And it wasn't that the better cereals stayed crunchy the longest. I mean, in fact, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, which is our number one best tasting cereal,

and we did our full cereal tournament, had a very, very low score in its lasting, because it got soggy so quick. Yep. So we wanted to have a little bit of a spectrum. This one, the peanut butter and honey, stays a little bit crunchier. The consistency of the sweet mac and mellow is, it doesn't stay crunchy as long as that, but I kind of feel like it creates a little bit of spectrum. I go back and forth between which one is my favorite consistency-wise. Yeah, that's a good sign.

So try them both out, eatmishmash.com. We're very proud of what we've created here, and we want to know what you think. Oh, and just so you know this, class, the Mythical Kitchen sport, multiple Mythical employees were also a part of the team in case you think that one or both of us have weird tastes. Josh and the team, it was funny because the way that Josh and Nicole, when they tasted the cereal,

the things that they say about it are like culinarily informed. Right. Where we're kind of just going completely on instinct. That's why we got a good team. We're covering our bases. And we covered a lot of bases and we reduced certain ingredients based on feedback.

And I don't know. We think you're going to love it. You're going to love one or the other, just like us. All right. There's this thing on Twitter that's happening that I don't know about. I was just told that we should talk about the yellow pillow debate.

Well, because we have a little bit of a dog in this fight, or at least we have a history with this. So yeah, this is the- I've seen the picture. There was a Twitter excretion and there was a uh tiktok video at least excretion because it's called x now that's what that's what that's what a tweet's called now it's an excretion oh didn't know that either well it's that's not true. Oh, okay. It's a joke.

Yeah. I was almost about to know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's not my joke. I heard it somewhere and thought it was funny. Oh. Hmm. I don't remember who said it.

Wow. Don't think it was worth repeating. Yeah, but to me, it helps. It's my way of commenting on the state of Twitter. Yeah. When I call it an excretion, I don't have to go into the details of why I think Twitter is an absolute shit show now because of one particular person who now owns it.

I don't have to actually go into that. I can just call it an excretion and let it sit. But thanks for letting me explain it. Yeah, sorry that I made you go through it. And since I've broke your concentration, let me go a little bit further and say that, like, I can't help but notice that your left eye is twitching like a mad dog. Oh, right here, right?

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it makes you look very angry. Like, you're about to, you're about, it's like you're about to lash out and, like, I don't know, slap me or maybe punch yourself in the face multiple times and, get it together, get it together. So it's interesting because I noticed it yesterday. Oh you feel it? Oh, it was yesterday too? Yeah, and this happens to me.

Uh... it's not a twitch that I can feel. Like, it doesn't... You don't feel it? Nope, not at all. Alright, just look at me. I'll tell you. Yeah, it just happened. Just happened. Just happened. Yeah, I can't... there's no perception. I can't see it. Do you see... it's right there.

You don't have to point it out. I've seen it already. Well, can I... I'm not pointing it out. I'm trying to touch it Well you can No Can I feel that If I can feel the twitch From my finger

No If you can feel it With your finger I don't want you To touch my face Well then you touch your face And see if you can feel the twitch Lightly

Lightly Right there Cause if it happens to me I can feel it And it drives me crazy I get that, too. That's not what this is. In fact, yesterday when I looked into the mirror before we shot, I saw it, and I was like, oh, that's weird.

My eye is twitching, but I can't feel it. It's a different muscle than it usually is. It's too far away from the eye to feel or something. You might need potassium. I have lots of potassium. I had a banana this morning. Well, then what's wrong? Well, Link, the body is very complex.

The human body is, there's a lot of things going on, and sometimes things like muscle twitches, they call them... Like you know. What do you call it when there's no origin? There's a medical term for something that is... Oh, gosh, no one's going to be able to say this. Like an anomaly? There is a, my father-in-law used to say it all the time.

It's a word for when they don't know the source of something and it also doesn't matter. Idiopathic? Idiopathic. Yeah. It is a twitch of idiopathic origin. At least as far as I know, because I'm an idiot. That's just a fancy way of saying

you don't know why. Well, I'm going to say that I'm not, are you concerned for me? Is that what you're saying? Because this has come and gone probably a thousand times throughout my life, and I'm still here and I'm fine.

I was just expressing concern. Well, when you get a twitch in your eye, do you think something is wrong? Yeah, like I don't have enough potassium. Maybe I need a mineral. I'll have another banana after this. Maybe it'll stop. It stopped yesterday. You don't want to talk about it.

Well, I'm trying to talk about the thing that we were going to talk about, but I had to explain why I don't like Twitter, and now I have to explain why I don't like the twitch in my eye. I'm going to have to explain why I don't like Twitter, and now I have to explain why I don't like the Twitch in my eye. I'm gonna have to explain why I don't like Twitch, that platform, too? I think it's making you testy, man. You're worried about it. Don't worry about it. It's okay. I bet it'll just go away. It's happened to you a lot, and it just goes away. That's where I was before you mentioned it.

I mean, it's a relatively unstructured show. The fact that every time you look at me, your eye looks like it's about to... Well, don't look at me. Look at this eye. Out of your skull. As a concerned friend, I just wanted to point it out. Can you look at this eye? So I'm just not going to...

I'm not going to take the L on this one. You know? I'm just... No one has to take an L I'm saying I saw it but then you wanted to touch it Which is a little intrusive But I did I asked permission

And I did touch it And then I said I think I'm okay Did you feel it? I didn't feel it I think you might not feel like you're okay And I'm making it worse Forget I brought it up I feel like you're okay, and I'm making it worse. Forget I brought it up. I feel like I'm being gaslit.

Yeah, it's hard to know what that means. Okay. Well, would you like me to explain what gaslit means? No. See the last five minutes of the video. Okay, would you like me to talk about yellow pillows? Tell me about the yellow pillow. Okay, so this was both a tweet and a TikTok,

and maybe people have stopped talking about it by the time you're listening to this, but most of you probably don't know about it. What did the tweet say? don't know about it um what did the tweet say the tweet said basically finally showed my girlfriend the uh the yellow pillow girlfriend is mad at me because i have revealed to her the yellow pillow fellas i'm sure you all know that this thing is magic there's no pillowcase on it well i assume that there is a pillowcase normally. So I think that's what he did was like, he was taking the pillowcase off

and he showed it to his girlfriend and it's disturbingly stained is what I would call it. Stained with, it's like a tarter color. So it's a white pillow, but not anymore. Interesting, so when you see this You don't immediately, like, have You don't, I mean, I've never had a pillow this yellow Let me start there

But you've never had a pillow with any yellow on it? Not that I've noticed, no I mean, when I went to, like, my grandparents' house Even as a kid? And looked at, they had some old ass pillows, and I would notice that they were very yellowed. It's like a smoker slept on them. So it's a combination of sweat, skin cells, some people say dust mites. Body oil? Face oil? Lots of, oil lots of yeah oil yeah for sure so

i you know i have a a wonderful wife who um noticed pretty early on in our marriage that that my side of the bed, both the pillow and the sheets, and if we could like brand new sheets after a certain number of months, maybe weeks, you could tell which side I was sleeping on. Like the Shroud of Turin? Because, yep, just like the Shroud of Turin.

Because I am an oily man. You know, I have oily skin. My kids have oily skin, so the same thing happens with them. It's like, it's not sweat. I don't sweat when I sleep. Like, I don't have a sweating thing. It's just, you know, you see my face is oily. My whole body is oily.

And so it, like, and I probably should sleep with a t-shirt but i don't it would probably help but it's just like i'm like whatever so it's your bed do what you want i can relate to that part of it but do you consider it magic no i consider it nasty. And also, yeah, I don't understand what the, because it's yellow because of shit that came off of your body and went into it. It doesn't make it better. It makes it worse, like objectively worse. Maybe he feels like it's seasoned. Like for a pillow to have gotten that yellow, he's had it a while.

I think there's a magical quality to it being completely broken in, and he's totally accustomed to it. And so maybe that's an indication of a magic that's not directly related to the oil. I don't like a pillow that has lost its structure either. Well, you know me and my pillow. I have like a torture pillow. It's a cylinder torture pillow stuffed with seed husks.

Yeah, you're in a different place with your pillow right now. But I did buy a cover for it after using it for a while because I realized there's probably some stuff seeping into this. Well, because of this,

there were a number of articles written. Experts were like, it's actually bad for you. It's bad for your respiratory system. Like when your pillow has that much stuff on it, you need to get rid of it, which brought me back to my favorite pillow, the song that we wrote in 2008. Which has nothing to do with the My Pillow guy. Definitely not.

Like it preceded him. My Favorite Pillow is just the name of a song. It was sleepbetter.org. Yeah. They were selling mattresses and pillows, and they wanted to sponsor a video, and that was back when we were, we said, okay, tell us what you do.

They said, well, it's mattress and pillows, but it's also a website where you can get educated on these things. That's why it was like a.org. So it's like education portal to selling a mattress. Our whole song, My Favorite Pillow, if you listen to the lyrics, the entire song is about

this concept that this excretion is about. Yeah. And it is designed to gross you out enough to buy a new pillow every six months. All the things that are in your pillow, your favorite pillow, well, you need to get a new one because it's actually bad for you. I don't remember all the lyrics, but we did dust mites, we did

dust mite poo, we we did dust mites. We did dust mite poo. We used skin cells. Yeah. And I think they did recommend every six months, but of course, I mean, they're- It was kind of a fear campaign. They're selling pillows. Let's be real.

We were part of a fear campaign. We also got them to ship us a tractor trailer load of their pillows. 600 of them. And yeah, it came in a tractor trailer. Yeah. And then we made a pile of them and jumped off the roof of our studio. Backwards and forwards.

600 pillows. It wasn't the greatest song, but it was the greatest video because it was all in reverse. Yeah. Well, we threw a lot at that. Yeah, it was a different time. Yeah. It was a different time. I. It was a different time. Iwonderersleepbetter.org is still around.

I bet you. I bet you they're thriving. They're still riding that wave of Rhett and Link video. If they are, they are. Okay, well, you know what? Go there for all your, you know. Used to be a sponsor. Used to be a sponsor.

We don't have to say not a sponsor. There you go. Yeah, so I can relate to it but i do not let things get to that point i love the fact that somebody tweeted a like a picture of their pillow and then they were like doctors and specialists writing articles in response to it. It's the internet machine. It's the world we live in, man. Well, but here's the thing. We can believe the best about these doctors, and I do believe the best about doctors and experts,

but really, everyone who's putting any kind of content on the internet is looking for a reason for somebody to click on it. So when somebody makes a big deal about the yellow pillow, it's like, oh, okay, I can jump on this and I can offer my little piece about it. It's still about the clicks, man. Yeah.

I'm just saying the tweeter, the excrementer, or whatever you want to call him, he didn't know that was going to happen. No. It's kind of, I think that that's, it's a cool phenomenon. And hopefully you got a new pillow out of it. I mean, he's probably catching hell about it. I mean, I talked about how I don't wash my legs every time I take a shower,

and I got caught hell for that. Good. I feel guilty if I skip leg day That's what I call leg day I want to watch my legs This is as close as I get to leg day But is leg day every day? Leg day is supposed to be every day

Supposed to be But there have been days Well, I got a new loofah That doesn't hold as much suds So by the time I get to my legs I'm out of suds. Because I got a silicone loofah. And the jury's still out on whether I like it or not,

but I think I do. Okay. I got it because I got annoyed with the amount of time it took for me to squeeze all, or as much as I could, the suds out of the loofah when I was done with it. And that was adding time to my shower that was annoying to me. And so I'd been advertised some silicone fancy schmancy loofahs. I was like, I'm going to try one of those because they can be rinsed quickly.

What about the actual plant loofah? You've never dealt with this? I don't feel like it's a great performer. Okay. It's very scratchy. And it's not that permeable. So it doesn't actually

have a lot of suds. But thanks for asking. I've definitely thought about all of this. Hmm. Shop Best Buy's ultimate smartphone sale today. Get a Best Buy gift card of up to

$200 on select phone activations with major carriers. Visit your nearest Best Buy store today. Terms and conditions apply. Bumble knows it's hard to start conversations. Hey. No, too basic. Hi there. Still no. Bumble knows it's hard to start conversations Hey No, too basic Hi there

Still no What about Hello, handsome Who knew you could give yourself the ick That's why Bumble is changing how you start conversations You can now make the first move or not With opening moves You simply choose a question to be automatically sent to your

matches. Then sit back and let your matches start the chat. Download Bumble and try it for yourself. Let's get to another one. Should we talk about my fanny pack? I mean, I know I've rubbed it the wrong way. This is a chance for you to let me have it. You talking about your fanny pack is really going to help. Right. You've had enough of me today? No, no, I'm happy about your fanny pack. Here's the thing.

Your wife has confided in my wife about how often you lose things, right? There was a point of concern. Yeah. I have geotags on a lot of my most important things now. And so I think given the fact. And I wouldn't say that I lose them. I would say I misplace them because I always find them. And it was where I had placed it, and I had just forgotten that I had placed it there.

And I think that's what she's really concerned about. Not that I lose things. I forget where I placed it. It's not just misplacing. But it isn't uncommon for us to arrive at a place where an ID is required and you don't have your wallet. Yeah. That happens 40% of the time that we show up at a place where an ID is required and you don't have your wallet. Yeah. That happens 40% of the time that we show up a place where an ID is required. There you go.

I don't like carrying my wallet in my pants pocket because when I sit down, then I have to move it to the front pocket. And when I stand up, I have to move it to the back pocket because I don't like how it looks in the front pocket. And yes, it's a low profile thin wallet, but it's still more than a wallet I have on the other ass cheek. So they're not level. And it bothers me.

So you know what I do? I don't carry my wallet. I leave it in my car. Who needs it? I leave it in my car a lot of times. That's smart. And I didn't say it was smart. I just say I did it.

I'm not saying any of this is smart. I'm just saying it's honest. But given the situation that we find ourselves in. Losing my keys. But also, you need more things than the average man that I have associated with in my life.

I'm in touch with what I like to have. Okay. With me. Okay. And, uh, I'm a self-prez. I like to have things that optimize my experience and without it having a negative impact on anybody else.

Right. So that is one of my questions is like, is the fact that I'm in a test period with what I'm going to unabashedly call a fanny pack. Here it is right here. It's got a llama on it. It's not a sponsor. But I was, you know, for a trip coming up,

I was looking for some bags. But I was, you know, for a trip coming up, I was looking for some bags. And boy, why? I finally started to get, like, my mother-in-law has an obsession with purses. And I started to feel a connection to her. When I started looking at all these bags on the internet. There's bags of all sizes that drape in all types of places. All over your body that hold all types of things. And they're super specialized and awesome. And there's stories to

go along with it. And so here I am in this world of bags, putting bags and bags and all types of bags in my cart. Well, so what do you have in this bag? Well, I will say that I bought another fanny pack that became the dog walking fanny pack. It's got room for all the dog walking stuff and it's all there. And I strap on the fanny pack and it's got the treats and it's got the poop bag and it's got a water bottle holder that I use to actually hold the full poop bags, of which I had three this morning. Give me a freaking break. But this is my daily life Lynx self-preservation bag. Okay, so let's open it up.

If you pull this right here, it turns into one of those rafts that goes into the ocean that has a rooftop on it. Literal preservation. And I can stay in it for like a couple weeks. There's a number of, well, you know, first of all, there's, I mean, there's the obvious. I've got, you know, got my wallet, and next to my wallet, lip balm. Okay. I mean, I can't tell you the amount of times that I've been somewhere and I've just needed lip balm and I haven't had it.

Of course, I have my keys. They're on a thing that they can never fall out. Okay. And then I have my headphones, my airpods here okay right down there i have a um a geo tracker when i lose all of this inevitably it's tracked i also have one of those on the keys i also have one of those in the wallet so now i don't if any of it falls out i can track it independently i've independently. I've got some almonds. Might need some nuts.

And in here, let's see, where should I go next? There's so many openings. That's part of the fun of this thing. Sunglasses. Like these right here, it's always nice to have a pair of sunglasses that I can also read with. These are reading slash sunglasses. I can't read with. These are reading slash sunglasses. I can't drive with them because they make me sick.

Okay. But I've got those in here. I mean, I can't tell you how many times you might need that. Sometimes, usually I'll have my phone in this part of it. I'm experimenting with even keeping my phone in here. How do you know if the phone's ringing? My phone doesn't ring. If it rings, I don't answer it. That's not what I do with my phone. Okay. So that way is why you never answer

the phone or text? I'll text sometimes, but it's usually on do not disturb. I know you said that. Here, I added you to the exception to do not disturb so that I wouldn't annoy you anymore by not trying to be undisturbed. I let you break through every time. And you woke me up from a couple of naps, so I put you back on the do not call list. There's a 74% chance that if I text him during the weekend, he will be napping.

I know I'm not easy to live with, but it's all about boundaries. It's where I stop and you start. You know? Okay. Here's my backup pair. I will not start carrying a fanny pack, just in case you're wondering.

A backup pair of headphones. Even if you stop, I will start. I really don't need these in there. They're in there because it makes me feel more secure. If I'm on a plane, you got to have headphones that plug in. Very important. I have medication. This is herpes breakout medication.

Just in case. If I can feel one coming on, I break out one of these pills. And they're beautiful pills. These are some of the most beautiful drugs I've ever taken. Looks like Legos. I mean, look at that. Those are, can you see it? Herpes pills are the most beautiful drug I've ever taken.

They're like a deep blue, almost look like a vitamin. But it looks fake. They look fake. They look fake. And they're so huge. It might just be plastic and you just shit them right out. Yeah. Unautered.

I take two of them at a time, too. I only need those like once a quarter. So interesting that they're in the fanny pack. But keep going. I'm building a list of questions. The moment that you sense that you have a cold sore breakout is the moment you need to take this, and you can't be like, oh, it's at home.

Well, I got to get home now. I'm actually going to start carrying caffeine pills in here too. Great. That way I'm not going to insist on, hey, guys, I know we're doing something else, but can we stop what we're doing so I can go get a coffee? Like, I don't want to be that guy, so caffeine pills. Okay.

I have this spray bottle to clean my glasses and a couple of these glasses-ready cleaners. And, you know, I went out with my friends the other night. It was the first time I took this thing out in public. And to stave off the potential ridicule and puzzlement, I offered to clean everyone's sunglasses in the Uber. Oh, that was sweet of you. And you know what? I was the hero. Here's some pain reliever.

Here's a USB. Here is another thing-a-lip balm, which is the classic. It seems a bit bottomless, to be honest with you. One Band-Aid. You don't need more than one at a time. And then, of course, you know, back here, I've got a couple of pictures of my family. Yep, great. And then I have a stack of fluorescent Post-it notes and a pen. Because you can't take notes on your phone, of course.

And then, well, maybe if I need to leave a note, like, sorry I dinged your car. Yeah, well, you're very prepared. And a highlighter. And there you have it. And you know what? And I don't wear it like a fanny pack. I wear it as a sling pack. I think that's what I felt comfortable doing,

is just wearing it over my shoulder, you know? This is acceptable. This is, I mean, look, I'm just a guy walking around. Just a guy. I'm just a guy walking around with a pack. Just a guy with a pack. Maybe I'm a photographer. Maybe there's a camera in here. a pack. Just a guy with a pack. Maybe I'm a photographer. Maybe there's a camera in here.

Okay, I have a... Just a few observations. I'm not, you know, I'm not gonna take any cheap shots. Um... Okay, just one thing, just so you should be prepared. I'm not gonna make fun of you for this, but I do want you to know that if you ever have a spontaneous, like, rap battle

breakout and you're on one side of it, this will be the focus of all your takedowns. Everything the person raps about will be related to your fanny pack. Just so you understand that. And the crowd will go wild every time the guy comes back to fanny pack. Right. He might... Because it's too easy. You think he might use the term man purse? It's too easy of a target. And I'm not going to stoop to that level.

I wouldn't do that. Thank you. Also, it has these cinched things on the side that, like, it's expandable, but also it's contractible. Yeah, I mean, because you might need even more things in there. Right. Questions. Legitimate questions. Sure, yeah. I'm an open book um

so essentially if you're committing to wearing a bag at all times okay which is again approximately half of the population already does this, right? Probably, right? Right. But a lot of guys are starting to carry little bags. And a lot of women don't. Stevie doesn't carry a purse, never has. Never seen her with a bag of any kind.

But people who carry bags at all times, they can't carry one bag all the time. You have to have multiple bags because it has to complement what you're wearing. Oh, no. Does it not? Well, yeah.

I kind of thought that, you know, it's khaki. I thought it was pretty versatile. I'm not saying it's not versatile. The last thing I'm going to do is start transferring everything from my bag to another bag depending on what it needs to match. So, okay. But I think that maybe this is something that the difference between a self-pressed person and a non-self. I thought about getting a totally black one.

The difference between a self-pressed person and a non-self-pressed person. I think lip balm is actually a microcosm by which you can map a lot of things. Are there times when I could use lip balm? Well, of course I have lips and I don't think that my lips are substantially different than your, your lips. Well. Right? I think they are. Well, I think that my guess is- Yours aren't a herpes factory. Okay, right, right, right. But let's take the herpes out. Let's throw the blue pill out for a second.

Well, the lip balm is like a preventative measure. I'm not trying to make a sob story here, but like- Okay, so that's why you use lip balm. I also really like it. But what I'm saying is that self-pressed... Like, lip balm is a common thing that self-pressed people have because there are probably...

There's probably a not insignificant percentage of the time in which I could use lip balm. Like, if you look at my lips and you're like... You know, you could... If I'm getting... If Anna is doing makeup for us for something, we don't do makeup for GMM. We don't have somebody who does it for us, but we used to.

And, like, when we shoot things that are different, like, and we have somebody, they always offer lip balm. Sometimes I say okay, but then sometimes I'm like no because I do, at least maybe I'm wrong about this, but my perception of lip balm is that once you start using lip balm, you kind of need to keep using lip balm because your lips are kind of expecting the balm, right? Maybe. Whether I'm right or wrong, that's just kind of, that's my operating philosophy. So if you take lip balm and you map it onto, I might need this, and therefore I should have it.

That's self-prez, and so you end up with a fanny pack. And then the other half of the population is like, I might need it, but I probably won't, so I'd rather not have it, and I'd rather just have the things that I need, which is my wallet, which has ID credit cards, and my phone. I don't carry keys,

because my car doesn't require a key. What about house key? Okay, so there's a number of things that you have in your bag that I keep in my backpack, which I have with me basically anytime I go out to work or I travel. Yeah. Right? I did take this on a date. So that was my next question is like, okay, so you've got the question of- I did ask first. I was like, it was a casual date. If I was really dressed up, we're going somewhere nice, I would not have done this. But so that's my second, that was my next question is like, you know, the average woman who gets dressed up and has a purse with her, that purse is a fashion statement. Sometimes the biggest fashion statement that she's making at a formal event, right?

Right. And so I'm assuming that you're not going to carry bags to formal events or like when you get dressed up and you go. Maybe, maybe though. But are you opening the door to that? I think I must be because in those situations, I'm still like, Christy, can you put my sunglasses in your bag? And this lip balm? And can you carry the keys? And by that point, she can't fit anything in her bag.

She's just carrying a bag for me. And at that point you have, but I think the thing that for me is like, I don't want to have a, I just don't want to have to think carrying a bag for me. And at that point you have, but I think the thing that, for me is like, I don't wanna have a, I just don't wanna have to think about a bag. In those scenarios, I'd rather not be responsible for a bag because if you lose that bag, you lose everything. Yeah, that's a scary thing. Have you thought about that?

I'm not saying you shouldn't do this. I'm just saying. Yeah, am I gonna lose the whole bag you thought about that? I'm not saying you shouldn't do this. I'm just saying... Yeah, am I going to lose the whole bag? These are the reasons that I'll never... The first reason I'll never get to the point is because I honestly don't find myself needing anything besides these two things and the things that I have in my bag. When I travel, I've got the same exact two pairs of headphones that you have. I've got Advil in case I get a headache. I've got all that stuff in my travel bag.

I don't think I need... There's a lot of stuff that I didn't need. I could have gotten a smaller bag. But since the bag was so big, I cleaned out my laptop bag and I put everything in it. That's why there's like Post-it notes in here. This also is coinciding with another thing that you've been pushing for, which is complete dismissal of the laptop.

Yes. That's my goal, is to never open a laptop. So this is why you don't answer or send emails. Well, I'm just not good at it. It's not my strength. So I'm like, I hate it. I absolutely hate it. Like, I cannot it. I absolutely hate it. Like, I cannot stand writing communications.

I don't. Like, you know, I'm over it. But here's the thing. Text and Slack and email, I do all three of those primarily on my laptop. So. Yeah. Because I don't like, I just don't,

I don't like thumbing it, man. It's, you know, there's too many typos. I think I might, I might be going audio only. There's a lot of people who do that. You know, people, you know, people are doing that.

We have a friend who only sends audio messages. A couple, actually. And I'm like, maybe this is my future. I'm an audio message guy you know i get worried about the crafting of the message oh i want to say that a little bit differently yeah i haven't started to do it yet i'm i'm quite the verbal processor so anyway i'll be doing a couple so then only sending the last one so the so the lack of need to begin with, but then the two things for me is like having to worry about a bag

from a fashion standpoint and also I've got a bag with me now. Those two things are just preventing me from doing it. This works with all my casual stuff. Yeah. It's an experiment at this point, but I've decided to fully commit to it, and then we'll see where it goes. I would say that it's beneficial to have a friend who has a bag.

So my only request is that I might have some things I need you to put in the bag. Yeah. I might have to get rid of some post-it notes. Well, it's expandable. I mean, you already made the point, it's expandable. Yeah, I had a full water bottle in it yesterday too. So sure, sure. But again, I'm not gonna make fun of you, but I will let you know that a street freestyle rapper

would crucify you for that. Just to, I wouldn't get into any rap battles. And if you do sense a- A close-minded rapper. freestyle rapper would crucify you for that. I wouldn't get into any rap battles. And if you do sense a rap battle, a sense a rap battle coming on, toss the fanny pack as far away from you as possible. At that point, it doesn't matter who ends up with it, where your stuff is, you don't want to get completely burned in a rap battle.

Yeah. I'm probably then taking my shirt off too. Just to like add a little whimsy to it. Okay, how far is this guy going to go? Put him on their heels. Don't give them more material. I will say for people

watching this who could see your bag, there's going to be comments of people saying that it's a crossbody bag. It's a crossbody bag. Because I'm holding it crossbody. But it can be fanny. There's quite to be comments of people saying that it's a crossbody bag. It's a crossbody bag. Yeah. Because I'm holding it crossbody. But it can be fanny. And there's quite a few rappers who embrace crossbody bags. Thank you, Jenna. Yeah.

A$AP, A$AP Rocky, I've seen him. But not freestyles. Not freestyle rappers. Well, she's right. Let her finish. A$AP is a freestyle rapper? Let her finish. I think he's done some freestyles.

But in a freestyle rap, he would drop the bag. I'm just telling you. You don't want to fumble the bag. They also wear chains, which... Those are good to have. You might need to add a chain. That might completely offset it. Speaking of famous rappers.

Anything else? It's the future. I think it could be the future for all people to have a bag. Isn't it nice to have a bag with everything you need? Why is it that only women can have bags? Well. You know, societally speaking. Well, because women didn't have pockets for so long because women couldn't have possessions.

So women's clothing never had pockets. Dresses didn't have pockets for so long because women couldn't have possessions. So women's clothing never had pockets. Dresses don't have pockets. Because we weren't allowed to have possessions. So then purses came in because, well, you can't give women pockets because then what are they going to do? It'll mess up the silhouette. No, we love pockets. It's just too many men make um uh garments but i hate pockets see and if you hate pockets then perfect pockets are for hands when hands

are cold and if but if you have like utility pants i do have pants with lots of pockets you do but then i don't like to put things in them because then when they're like i get like leg flap and i don't know this is so much better this is so much better so okay point taken pocket books as i call them uh i don't know why i call well you think yeah i mean think about someone in a dress pocket books no place to put anything you know you gotta you gotta have a bag you might have got there our fingers have evolved to be able to carry um much more than we possibly could in one hand and i will say also traditionally women are you know more often than not and traditionally women are wearing makeup men are not and so you've got you've got some makeup for touch-ups and stuff. You've got feminine products a lot of times.

There's more things traditionally that you would need to have with you, and then you don't have pockets. Taser, yeah, whole gamut of things. So that kind of makes sense. Listen, I'm not against a man purse, and I have considered the man purse as my laptop bag. Oh, like a shoulder bag?

Yeah, but my thinking is everything that you have in your fanny pack, I have in my laptop bag. And I'm actually leaning into laptop right now. I'm doing much less phone and more laptop. See, the thing for me is that scramble to grab everything and make sure you have it all, I don't have that problem anymore. I just grabbed the one thing and I know that everything's in it because everything's always in it. And now I always have my wallet with me.

I always have everything that I should have had with me, but I didn't because I didn't take the time. Like, okay, the keys go in the front pocket. The wallet goes in the back pocket. Phone goes in the other pocket. Maybe I'll throw in the lip balm in the pocket, and then

where are my post-it notes going to go? You know, it's like, I've not five, sometimes 15 minutes if I have to start searching for something. Something that's not been locked in this place. Yeah, it's all there.

Pick it up, go. It's a go bag. The big question is going to be the ID, because if you've got your wallet in there, because you're probably not going to take that to... Usually the place where you don't have your ID is when we go to some sort of event where we're dressed up in a fancy way. Yeah, I know.

I'll figure it out. So that's the only question, because that always ends up happening. The ID should be on the phone. I mean, it out. So that's the only question. Just because that always ends up happening. The ID should be on the phone. I mean, it really should. It just should be a thing. Yeah.

I mean, just like your credit cards are now in your phone. You could... Your ID, your real ID should be in your phone. But you could also

just get one of those cases that just has a slip for your ID. Yeah, but where... And Not like all your credit cards. Where's the lip balm going to go? On the side and holster. Maybe you could do everything that you've got going on there just on a phone

with holsters. Passport. I bought this for travel and then I backed into everyday use. So we'll see how it goes. I'll give you a much shorter fashion update as I continue to experiment. My experimentation is loafers at this point. So I'm not doing fanny pack, but I am doing loafers.

And I can't do that. So that's where you stop and I start. You can do it though. You can do it if you want. Why don't you think you can? I already told you. You're not gonna do it because I did it? No. But you just don't think you can do it? you want. Why don't you think you can? I already told you. You're not gonna do it because I did it? No.

But you just don't think you can do it? Yeah, it's not, it won't work for me. Because if I decide to get a fanny pack, what I'm saying is, You will. If I get a fanny pack, Everyone will. Like I don't think, you haven't boxed me out of fanny packs. I don't think so. Because two men with two fanny packs

could be an unstoppable force. In fact, if a rap battle started- If you're coming to my side, come on over. Here's the thing. You could keep your loafers in the pack. Well, I'm gonna tell you about something that goes in loafers that I could keep in there. If a rap battle starts and the two of us

are on one side of the rap battle, we both keep the fanny packs because we have power in numbers and we can use, every time that pair that's arguing, that's rapping against us, tries to do a fanny pack line, we use it against them.

It's harder to do by yourself is all I'm saying. Okay, yeah. So as you know, the loafers that I got the first time had that mock toe. I wanted to get another pair that had more of a traditional profile.

You've done it. So I got these, and I wore these for a couple of days to break them in. I enjoyed them quite thoroughly. I did notice, because they did not have the mock toe, that they were not as comfortable

as the other ones. I don't... Tell me what a mock toe is again. I've heard that called... It's short for moccasin. Oh. You know, where it's like basically like a, and I may be using it wrong, but it's basically like when there's a wall that goes straight up and then there's a knit that goes around. Oh, I got you.

Around, and it gives more room for the toes. Vertical room. Less likely to scrape and stuff. But the thing about this one is that it had this insole, this leather insole, and I was like... It's basically a loafer, but it's a boot. It looks like the start of a boot. It's the start of a boot. It could have continued to become a boot.

And this is more traditional. This is a more traditional loafer. and this is more traditional. This is a more traditional loafer. So as I wore them, I was like, I kind of feel like I'm sweating a bit more in these. So then I did a little research. It turns out the thing that we overlooked in between no socks and baby socks

was just an insert, insole, that's basically a sock material. What? So not a sponsor. Dr. Scholz makes this terrycloth thing that you just stick down in there because 90% of the sweat that might happen on your foot is coming from the bottom of your foot. So then you take that out and launder it? No, it's just odor-resistant. Did that do the trick?

Yeah. No issue at all. So you can do this as well. Terrycloth insert. There's other ones. Like a watch rack? This is just the first one that I found on Amazon, and I just took the insole that's built in out and held the thing up and just cut it to match exactly, then put both of them back in there,

and I'm having no problems. Look at you. You're like a damn cobbler. So I'm kind of a bit of a loafer expert at this point. Yeah, talking about the Mott toe and the cobbler. The thing that I'm really enjoying about these, speaking of silhouettes, And speaking of silhouettes, is I just, I like the way that it, you got something going on. If you start looking at somebody from head to toe and you see what they've got on and then it ends with a loafer, it sends it in a slightly different direction.

Yeah, I agree with that. When you land on tennis shoes, it sends it in another direction. Don't get me wrong, I'm still a tennis shoe guy. You could be having like a marina meeting. I do feel like at any moment I could like clap my hands one time and then

say something that sounds important, even if it wasn't. I wouldn't go that far. I'm just saying, I don't know if you could do that in tennis shoes. I think you might be able to look out and see a boat floating on the water, but it's not your boat. They're not boat shoes. That's a different thing.

Again, you're not on the boat. I'm not a boat shoe guy yet, okay? Yeah, you're going. These are loafers. Yeah. I'm just saying, if I need to call an impromptu meeting with one clap, I think I now have the ability to do that. Tennis shoes, you've got to do three claps.

And then you sound like you're just clapping and applauding. I just don't. I'm going to advise you against clapping to get your way. I've never done it. I'm just saying that now that I've got loafers, I've been considering it. Don't. Uh-uh. Don't clap to get your way.

But I feel like now us as a pair, you've got the fanny pack. Clap to encourage. So I don't know if the fanny pack has increased your, you know... Clap and get my way? Yeah, I don't know if it's increased or decreased, but I think I've balanced it out a little bit with my loafers. Whatever you've changed in the dynamic in the way that we present as a duo, I think that your fanny pack is to my loafers, and we basically have sort of returned to a nice, you know, equanimity.

Your marina. I think I'm a little... I mean, this is kind of granola. This is either forest or urban. I don't know. You gotta have your stuff with you. We've got it covered from the mountains to the ocean... and beyond. Thanks for the voicemails. It's really helpful, you know, getting your feedback. So, you know what? I welcome it. 1-888-EAR-POD-1! I have a rec. It is a musical rec. I love musical recs. I am going to ask you to listen to a song called Honey Body.

All one word. Sounds good. Not in celebration of our cereal, but in celebration of the artist Kishi Bashi. I've been a fan of his for a while. I would call him, I think basically people call him psychedelic pop or indie pop. He's a multi-instrumentalist, just musical genius who does all kinds of different music.

But Honey Body is like, if you just need to put yourself in a good mood right now and you don't know how to get into it and you just need a song to put you in a good mood. That's important. Play Honey Body by Kishi Bashi. All right, I've added it. Well, I'm about to.

Here we go. I just added it. Talk, I'm about to. Here we go. I just added it. Talk at you next week. Bye. Hey, Rhett and Link. This is Sleepy Dave. You said to leave a gentle voicemail at the end of episode 400, so I just thought I'd call in. So I just thought I'd call in.