Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - We Owe Someone an Apology | Ear Biscuits Ep. 460
Episode Date: February 24, 2025Someone wants an apology, but are they going to get it? In this episode, Rhett & Link get called out for wanting an apology, discuss what they got in trouble doing when they were kids, as well as answ...er a very interesting “this or that” question. Get Huel today with this exclusive offer for New Customers of 15% OFF + a FREE Gift with code EAR at https://huel.com/EAR (Minimum $75 purchase).” To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This, this, this, this is Mythical.
[♪ theme music playing.
Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast for two lifelong friends
talking about life for a long time. I'm Rhett.
And I'm Link. This week at the Round Table of Dim Lighting,
we're talking about some stuff that we've gotten caught for as kids.
Uh-oh. It's confession time.
Maybe a little bit of that.
There might be a diagnosis in it for me.
Sometimes when I talk about things that I've done,
people like to turn it into a diagnosis.
That's the fun of the internet.
That may happen.
That's the fun of the internet.
And I guess I'm okay with it
because I'm deciding to bring it up,
but maybe I'll change my mind.
You know, that's the beautiful thing
about the barrier of entry to entertainment
being so low at this point in history.
People like you and me can be entertainers for a living.
And here we are.
But also, whereas in the past-
Also people more talented than us,
and also people less talented.
Sure, there's some maybe.
But in the past, you would have,
let's just say Johnny Carson.
He would be doing his thing on the television.
You might think that Johnny Carson is fill in the blank,
diagnose him with something. Narc narcissism, I don't know,
what could it be?
And you would only do that in the comfort
of your living room with your family members
if you decided to talk about that.
Right.
And he would never find out about it.
You know, there might be a letter writing campaign
and then it might show up on the entertainment
tonight or something.
If, maybe in the late 80s.
But now we're in a situation where Amy Schumer,
I just happened to see this, the comedian,
said that at first she was getting hate from people
for like something about her physical appearance,
but then it morphed into her getting a diagnosis
for something.
Can't even remember what it was.
But she like-
You mean like a physical-
Yes, like a physical condition.
That happens a lot of times.
People see like a growth on your neck or something.
It was something- You should get that checked out. That's lot of times. People see like a growth on your neck or something. You should get that checked out.
That's happened multiple times.
I mean, I've been accused of having Marfan syndrome
by my father-in-law, but also by the internet.
Multiple, multiple psychological disorders.
Cause you're long and lanky and you've got big eyes?
I don't know, me and Michael Phelps, I guess.
Did you- Supreme athletes,
I think is what it is. You looked into it.
Well, I Googled Marfan syndrome and saw a picture.
I don't think so.
Okay, well, it helped Amy Schumer.
So maybe you can be helped.
Maybe I can be helped.
But that's the point I'm making, is that there's a bright side to this.
People diagnosing you on the internet. I'm just trying to find them.
If they're right, yeah.
I'm trying to find a positive angle here. I think I did.
But first, it appears that we owe someone an apology?
Hi, Rhett and Link. My name's Jess. I've been a big fan for over 10 years now, and I'm calling to request an apology.
Because I struggle with intrusive thoughts sometimes, and the best part about intrusive thoughts is that when they pop up, it's always when you really don't want them to.
So the other day, my partner and I were engaging in some activities,
and in the heat of the moment, my brain decided it was time to make things weird.
And it started playing Rhett's booty knot song.
So I had to wrestle that thought out of my mind multiple times
because it kept coming back and now I'm afraid that that's gonna continue
happening during future activities. So again I'm requesting an apology and also
I'm wondering if anything similar has ever happened to you guys. Anyway, love you both, thanks for listening. I think I'm going to refuse to apologize.
It doesn't seem like I'm involved. I do not really understand the problem here.
I mean, if you've heard the song...
It is one of the sexiest songs around.
I know, it seems like it's perfect for the occasion.
I mean, for those who haven't heard it,
why don't you just give them a little acapella.
I'm so tight, so stressed, need someone to rub my chest,
oh yeah, that's the spot, I love the way you weep.
I love the way you work my booty knot.
And then the next part is even better for what she's talking about.
Put some oil on my neck.
What is she back? Give me a two-handed attack.
Oh. How do you know the words to this?
I've had a really hard week.
I've had a really hard week, and I want to rub my feet.
Oh yeah.
It's better when you hear the recorded version,
the studio version is better than what I just did.
But I think that the...
So disappointing you don't even remember
your own booty knot song.
It was the first time you really went solo.
I'm there in the moment.
I don't remember songs, man.
In someone's opinion.
I'm there in the moment.
To the greatest effect.
And then I give it to the people.
Why wasn't that on the James and the Shame album,
by the way?
It was.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, you had to play it backwards.
That would have been a hell of a bonus track.
Well, James and the Shame lives on.
I mean, I'm releasing music this year,
so maybe I could have a...
Bonus track on the CD, you know?
Bring back that whole 90s thing.
Or it's just one long track with a bunch of space in it.
That's how they did that.
Turns out there was a,
here I am talking about 311.
A 311 track from the 90s,
it was discovered by the internet, like a month ago,
that there was a hidden track on track before track one,
which is something that is rarely done
and people didn't find it.
Well how do you do that, how do you find it?
You press play and then you hit rewind
and it keeps going back, back, back, back, back, back,
and you get something. What album?
Can't remember.
Huh.
Okay, thanks for the idea.
Doesn't matter.
I don't think it's grassroots.
I'm not gonna apologize for this because
the BPM, first of all.
It's perfect for sex.
It's the perfect sex BPM.
It's talking, you're talking about like a 93, 92?
Might be 90.
I don't know, I don't know specifically.
Okay, well, take it from me.
But well, there's a range.
You don't wanna lock into one BPM.
And I believe in having a sex BPM
that allows for double beats.
Oh yes, okay.
Well then you're more in like a.
Cause sometimes you wanna hit the hi-hat like this.
Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.
Double time, double, double time.
You're not gonna do that with a 90 BPM though.
You're gonna have to go slower than that.
At your age, not capable of going-
No, I back from the best shape of his life.
You're not going 180 BPM, homie.
Oh no, I'm not doing that.
That ain't even gonna happen.
So I think that this is not a problem.
I think that you should be playing the song out loud
so that your partner can also enjoy it.
I mean...
Don't keep this in your head. Bring it into the room.
It should happen every time, and you can try the acapella. Just start singing it.
Well, I think maybe...
Oh yeah! And use that voice. Rhett's fake Lil' John voice.
I think we should probably release the instrumental version, though.
Because I do understand that my voice
may be a little bit distracting
because I don't want you to be thinking about me.
I don't want you to be that distracted.
And so I think if maybe you just hear the instrumental,
you can understand the beauty of the song
and what it really offers.
I mean, what's the BPM of Pony?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm so tight! So stressed!
I mean, it's a little slower.
I'm saying it's 85. You looking this up?
Yeah.
I just feel like there's a range.
It says it's simultaneously 71 and 142.
71, see?
Depending on where.
There it is, Rhett.
That's it, 71.
I'm not gonna argue with that.
142, that's the sweet spot for the double spot.
That's really slow, though, 71.
I mean, I know 141 is, 142 is really, really fast.
But still achievable, achievable. Achievable.
That's it.
I'm glad you brought that up.
That's the one right there.
Next time, this is your solution
if you don't want booty knot in your brain.
Play Genuine in the Room.
Matter of fact, play any song in the room
and you will not hear another song in your head.
It's just, it's very hard, if not impossible, to do that.
What's the name of that Victoria Monet song?
Talks about?
On My Mama?
Or the one where she's talking about her titties bouncing?
Either.
About any Victoria Monet song.
What's the BPM of, is it On My Mama?
Yeah.
Look up that. We're talking, we're talking BPM of... is it All My Mama? Yeah. Look up that.
We're talking BPMs today if you're just joining us.
No one just joins the podcast.
Every song that I have in my collection.
It says 153.
It's a half that.
Yeah, see, so she...
I was gonna say, I just feel like...
See, we're talking...
...71 is so slow.
...77.
That's it right there. You know, a lot of times, I just feel like... See, we're talking 77, 77. 71 is so slow. That's it right there.
You know, a lot of times, I start...
77 is not slow.
Well, ironically, a lot of times when I'm writing a song,
I intrinsically, and I don't know why I do this,
but I start at a 77 BPM.
Like, I write all my music just on my guitar,
just me and a guitar, but then when I go into,
a lot of times I start on a 77
because it's the year of my birth
and it feels like there's something significant about that.
You don't wanna do that for every song.
No, of course not.
But what I have found is that me and,
what is her, what is her 76, 75?
77. Oh, she is 77.
I wonder when she was born, here she was born,
I'm sure she's younger. Here she was born.
I'm sure she's younger than me.
But anyway, it's a good BPM.
And I think it's better because I think that the 71,
if you just go into single thrusting on the beat
is too slow and it gets a little awkward.
Yeah, I disagree.
I think it is perfect.
Do you know how slow?
Yeah, it's perfect for the double,
but if you go single, it's too slow.
It forces you to pace yourself, Rhett.
Too slow for you may not be too slow for your partner.
You know?
You always don't have to be on the beat, too.
Sometimes there's bridges and stuff.
Personal bridges.
Well, we're talking as if it's all gonna happen
within one song, but let's hope there's a second song.
Sometimes.
Maybe a third song.
Depends on what night of the week it is.
And then you want the BPM to increase a little bit.
If it's a school night, sometimes it needs to be one song.
And well, then I would go with Booty Not.
That's a short song.
Exactly.
It's repeated.
It's everything.
Maybe once.
It's everything you'll need.
And so I think this should,
usually we should revamp this
and you should be given a, you're welcome.
You're welcome.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not apologizing to you.
I wanna say you're welcome
for bringing this song into the world
and bringing it directly into your bedroom.
In your brain.
Intrusive thoughts,
just to have a little moment about that,
can't relate. Don't have any intrusive thoughts. Never had one.
Don't know what you're talking about. Now, extrusive thoughts.
I have a lot of those. So maybe for a split second they're intrusive.
But then they extrude. Like that thing that you put
Play-Doh in and then you push down the top and then it comes out in different
shapes. That's how I communicate. Like smushing Play-Doh out.
It's like, what shape am I gonna get now?
That explains a lot.
What color is gonna come out now? What if we mix these two?
What if I throw another thing in there?
But, to complete the analogy, you don't actually have access
to what the shape is on the other side until it comes out.
I don't, yeah, I'm on the back side pushing.
You look at it.
Oh, it's a star.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Hey Rhett and Link, my name's Alex
and I was just listening to your newest episode
of Ear Biscuits where you were talking directly
to shoplifters and as a shoplifter I'm going to respond.
I specifically shoplift only from stores that put a lot of money towards really
awful policies that I disagree with, like conversion therapy and stuff. So I think it's
more ethical to shoplift from Hobby Lobby than to not do anything at all. Or Chick-fil-A,
I don't know. I will always
take things from them. Or like any chain, like there's a saying, if it's a chain,
it's free reign. So I'll put like Applebee's cups or little saucers into my
purse after I'm done eating. I think that's fine.
Okay, well.
And a little thrilling, isn't it?
It's not like you're not getting anything out of this.
Without necessarily endorsing what Alex has laid out, I will say, on a planet,
let's just be real for a second.
Okay, and we are on one. On a planet in which there are approximately
eight billion people, is that what we're at up to now?
You don't know.
Eight billion people.
If I'm not mistaken.
I don't know.
Eight individual people,
eight individual people have more wealth than the bottom
four billion people have the combined wealth
of half of the people on the planet.
That's wild.
Is that sustainable?
Is that moral?
Sustainable?
Is that right?
What would you do?
Is Hobby Lobby one of those people?
I think our friend Rainn Wilson may have talked about this in his book.
So I'm going to give him credit for this.
If I'm wrong, so be it.
But like sometimes it is useful to picture how an alien would think about a situation.
Like if we went to a planet and we observed that that was the case on another planet,
we would be like, well, something's not right about that.
How did that happen?
That doesn't seem, that doesn't seem ethical, right?
Yeah.
And so I understand the sentiment.
I'm not saying that the Hobby Lobby guy
is one of those eight people,
but what I'm saying is that, Don't think he is one of those eight people, but what I'm saying is that-
Don't think he is.
If you wanna get your panties in a wad
about people saying things like what Alex is saying here,
where maybe you should shoplift from corporations
that you disagree with,
before you do that,
what is your answer to the first thing that I said?
How do you feel about the morality of that reality, of the fact that eight people own more than half of the world?
So you're saying if you're not happy with that, that gives you license to steal?
No, I'm saying that if you're unwilling to recognize
the unethical nature of that reality,
you can't say shit about somebody shoplifting.
Oh.
That's what I'm saying.
What if you're like law enforcement?
I'm not.
Okay, you're saying, just in a public discourse.
I will say again, not endorsing.
We gotta have a little order here in society.
I'm not endorsing, but I will say,
Hobby Lobby doesn't have barcodes
because they think that barcodes are the mark of the beast
or something like that.
And so they might not have one of those things
that catches you as you go out the door.
I don't know.
Easy target.
Because how would they keep track of what it is?
I suppose target, which has barcodes.
No, but maybe they do have the little tags.
But if it's a little wooden birdhouse
and you don't see one of those things on it,
it's probably not gonna be caught as you go out the door.
Again, I am not endorsing this.
I'm not encouraging it.
I'm just making an observation.
Well, I'll approach this from a purely
practical perspective.
Most of what you're gonna find in a hobby lobby is,
it's like cheap wood and it's jagged and there's like,
I don't know, it's not the smoothest stuff.
And if you're jamming this stuff down your pants,
as shoplifters do, I mean, I think you're,
you might be hurting yourself.
You know, they got those like alligator clips
on the back of everything, all the dumb stuff that you can hang on your wall.
The alligator clip will hang on that nail on your wall
in your kitchen so that your sign that says kitchen
will help you understand that you're in your kitchen.
But if you put that kitchen sign down your pants,
that alligator clip might get caught on your foreskin.
Yeah.
You know, and if you're circumcised,
That's why I don't have a foreskin.
It might get caught.
So I can shoplift.
On the actual, like,
I got circumcised,
I got, hear it here, I got circumcised
so I could shoplift Hobby Lobby.
That's even, it's even worse.
And again, I don't actually do, I don't.
You're not hearing me, it's worse.
I don't do that.
Circumcised people, it's harder for them to shoplift
alligator clipped items.
It's harder?
It's more painful, yeah.
When circumcised?
Oh yeah.
But the foreskin is there if you are not circumcised.
It's protection.
Oh. Yeah. You want the alligator clip to catch the foreskin is there if you are not circumcised. It's protection. Oh.
Yeah.
You want the alligator clip to catch the foreskin
and not the actual glands.
Yeah.
Man, I wish I wasn't circumcised sometimes.
Like I would love to just like grab all that skin
and just put like a clothes pin on it
and then just see if I could make it pop off.
The clothes pin? Yeah.
Well, you can reverse your circumcision.
You've seen How To with John Wilson.
We watched that episode together.
Oh yeah.
There is a movement.
Yeah, but that's via stretching.
Well, I stretch every morning.
I could just add.
One more stretch.
We have one more stretch. It's simple.
I am now, by the way, I'm already,
with every morning stretch,
I'm now hooked up to a machine of sorts,
because in my quest, you know,
my continual quest for eye health,
I'm doing the warm compress,
but now I've got a device that is USB powered
that like warms up my eyes in the morning and the night.
And in the morning I was like, I don't have any time
beyond what I've already committed to.
So now I do my stretches essentially blindfolded
with my eyes being heated.
And tethered.
And I could just attach something to my penis
and stretch my foreskin.
I could have tooth, what I'm saying is at this point
I'm tethered to something,
I could be tethered to something else.
I need to consult my wife though.
I don't know if she wants a foreskin.
I don't know if she wants me to shoplift, actually.
You know what I would be willing to do?
Help you with this.
Okay.
I know where your bedroom is in your house.
Just drape a string out that window and then-
I'm not gonna have you pulling a string that's attached to my dick.
And then I'm gonna be down there.
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm gonna be down there on the driveway.
You're so...
I'm just gonna be yanking on that string a little bit.
You're the most aggressive. Your hands are so aggressive.
Everything you do, you eat aggressive, you pet dogs aggressive,
you grab things aggressively, you don't have any like tact or smooth or chill
with the way that you move things around.
Oh no, no, no, my DJing skills is helping me with that.
I'm never gonna let you touch a string
that is attached to my body in any way,
and much less my dick.
So if I'm gonna stretch my foreskin,
I'm doing it on my own.
Well I'm the one who wants to do it.
Why are you getting in on my thing?
We can both stretch our foreskins.
I'm not stretching it.
I'm getting skin grafts.
Hmm.
I don't know about that.
I mean, I wonder if I'm gonna tell my kids, it wouldn't, like, any grandbabies I have,
any grand boys, to not circumcise them.
I think it's their decision.
Leave it up to them.
Yeah, but I can weigh in.
I'll be like, I want you to realize a dream
that I've never experienced.
The problem is-
And I'll give you a clothes pin every year.
Well, the problem is, is the... there's still a stigma.
You know, there's still this...
Oh, I think the word you're looking for is smegma.
That's good.
We are... people still, culturally, like if you draw an erect penis, if you draw one,
it's circumcised, you know what I'm saying?
Like when people-
Hold on, what do you mean an erect one?
It doesn't look that different.
If you draw like a dick and balls,
like if you said-
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you just instructed the average person on the street,
can you draw an erect dick and balls?
But don't say it, it's even more obvious
when it's not engorged.
So let's say, draw just like a flaccid-
Can you just draw a penis?
A flaccid one.
They're gonna draw a circumcised one.
Most people will.
I mean, of course we have a bias being where we're at.
Yeah, right.
This probably wouldn't happen
in other parts of the world.
Right.
But what I'm saying is that like,
you know, we send a lot of media out into the world.
We have a lot of influence here in this country.
Yeah.
And so I think in order to get more people
to be okay with the foreskin,
you're gonna have to start drawing more foreskins, you're gonna, how do you make foreskin
more acceptable?
You gotta put it in people's conscience.
You gotta put it in more drawings.
So to those of you who draw dicks in bathroom stalls.
Yeah, there you go.
To those of you who draw dicks in abandoned homes.
Right.
And also a lot of you draw large murals of women
with their legs spread,
which I saw a lot of that as a child.
Don't change anything.
Yeah, keep doing that.
But if you're gonna draw a dick on a wall,
on a stall, on a ball.
Sheat it up.
Make sure it has a foreskin.
If we're gonna change the cultural conversation around this.
Put a dangly balloon all the way around it.
Yeah, this is about changing the perception.
This is a PR campaign, a penis rebranding campaign.
PR.
Yep.
You know?
There you go.
And if you have the power
of creating pamphlets, go for it.
I think everyone has that power now, most people.
And if you can get your pamphlet
in some sort of a doctor's waiting room,
or if maybe we need a street team
of people delivering like PR pamphlets,
and you know what I mean.
To, to, PR to the ER, how about that?
Penis rebranding in the emergency room, waiting room.
Oh, okay.
I'm just saying doctor's office,
PR, ER kind of rolls off the tongue.
People are not really open and susceptible
to advertising at the ER.
That's not usually a pamphlet environment.
Oh. This is more of a regular doctor's.
Like well-visited. Primary care physician.
Okay, all right.
So yeah, I think we answered your question.
Yeah, I don't remember what it was, but.
Definitely. Sure we did.
Definitely.
Hey, Link, it's Aiden from Arkansas.
I just wanted to call and ask you guys a quick question.
Recently me and my girlfriend were telling each other stories about how, you know, we
got caught doing certain things when we were kids, like sneaking out, you know, indulging
in drinking and stuff like that.
And I wanted to know, do y'all have any good stories about like getting caught with anything like that when y'all were younger and still lived in North Carolina?
So, yeah, if you could have any stories, that'd be awesome. I'd love to listen,
and love you guys. Bye.
Heh heh. Getting caught sneaking out, drinking. There wasn't much sneaking out.
I mean, there's only one time that I snuck out, and it was that time that we went to the beach
with my dad's side of the family.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because we were down there in Myrtle Beach,
and we were hanging out, and we met these girls,
and then we were like, let's meet up later
and go play putt putt.
We played the putt putt.
And me and the girl that I was kinda sidling up to,
we hit it off and you-
You mean the pretty one?
Well, I wouldn't go say it, but yeah.
And the girl, she was from Ohio. But the other girl, let's call her Martha.
Okay, I don't, I can safely say I do not remember her name.
Boy, I remember her face though.
So later that night when we had arranged to sneak out to meet up...
Well, you had arranged. I made no arrangements.
You didn't get out of bed.
I was not about to sneak out for that.
Which made it a lot safer. I can't believe that I snuck out alone.
I can't believe I went through with it when you weren't willing to go out.
I would have thought that I would have stayed
because I'm skittish.
Yeah.
I'm so skittish.
I'm proud of you.
I know, it's like, once in a,
the only time I've ever done something,
that's like probably the riskiest, wrongest,
like classic kids thing that I've done is sneak out and,
like classic kids thing that I've done is sneak out and
I'll tell you for the longest time I
Regretted that decision
Huh? But now I don't okay good
And you shouldn't and I don't and I don't but for the longest time I did right
Because I do not regret not sneaking out.
Just so we're clear.
Poor girl.
It was awkward when I showed up and it was just me and...
Oh, she was also there?
Yeah, she was still there.
Okay, did she go back inside?
She went back inside.
Okay.
And we went out to the beach and just hung out.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of something that we haven't.
A little mischievous.
I didn't get caught. We haven't talked about.
I did not get caught for that.
Right, you didn't get caught.
Well, the most, the classic example of us being caught
is.
The administrative building.
Eighth grade.
Maybe summer before eighth grade.
All I know is I was 14.
Because I did end up getting spanked for this.
As a fourth, as my last spanking as a 14 year old,
six foot four boy being spanked by my five foot nine father.
Oh, and how did he, what was the configuration? poor boy being spanked by my five foot nine father.
And how did he, what was the configuration?
Configuration, me bending over. The back of the couch, right?
That's how I remember the story.
I think it was either the couch or over a bed or whatever.
It was, you know.
It would have been over the back of the couch.
It was, you know, it was very controlled.
But let's talk about the events that led up to that.
So, you know, we're just boys.
Eight hours earlier.
We are on the Campbell University campus
in Buies Creek, North Carolina.
We're trying to have some fun during the summer,
the waning hours of the summer. It's boring.
And one of the things that we would do
is we would wander around.
So we do some exploring.
The campus and go into different buildings.
And of course, when you get into a building,
one of the first things that you think of
if you're really thinking is how do you get
on top of this building?
Yeah.
And there are ways, usually it's the stairwell,
you would take it to the top
and then there is like a little hatch.
Yeah, there's like a metal ladder
and then a hatch in this case.
And they had left it open.
Well. Unlocked.
At that, I remember doing a,
like, is the coast clear?
Like there was, you could see through the door or doing a, like, is the coast clear?
Like, you could see through the door that led into the stairwell.
It was like the fire escape, you know?
Well, it was only like three stories.
Three stories, but it was summer.
People would use it.
But I remember that there was a secretary that we could see at certain points,
and I was like, okay, go, go, go, go, go,
and then you went up the ladder and popped that thing open.
And then we get to the top, and all of a sudden we're like,
holy shit, this roof is just covered in rocks.
White rocks.
Like white.
It's a flat roof.
White, round, pebble-ish.
Pebble-ish rocks. Very throwable.
But not too small, about like that, like half the size of a golf ball.
Yeah. It fit great in your hand. When you got them in your hand,
then you were like, you just felt like just raring back and letting it go.
And we did that.
Yeah, you just start throwing them off the roof.
We were tossing them onto the street.
Now ironically, right across the street from the road
was the church that we went to.
Yeah.
So we can see the church, we can see the physical manifestation of God's judgment. It's like we can like see the church, like we can see like the physical
manifestation of God's judgment.
Right, it's like we're looking at God.
Right there in our field of view.
Looking at us.
But we were like, well, God, we're not throwing it at cars.
We're throwing it like right before a car.
Yeah.
Or right after a car.
Yeah, we're not throwing it at windows.
We weren't trying to hit a car.
We were like, let's scare.
Or pedestrians.
Let's scare somebody a little bit.
Let's scare them with a little rock.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And maybe on the walking path.
Yes.
A little tinker on the walking path.
As a summer school student is walking by,
let's just five feet in front of them, a little pebble.
Oh, where did that come from?
And then you kinda get down.
Is it raining rocks again?
Making people go crazy, that was what we were trying to do.
Yeah, just wild, Just create Bedlam.
It wasn't like we discussed it, I'm sure. We just did it.
It was just like, you know, it's just like now we're up here.
You don't talk about that kind of thing.
It's like if you walk about a pond, you start throwing rocks into the pond.
Are there fish in there? Are you disturbing them?
Little bit.
Is it something they would want? Probably not.
But are you doing it mindlessly? Yeah.
It's not something they would choose.
Yeah, I think that's what we were doing.
Just mindless height entertainment.
But no actual property damage
except for maybe the lack of rocks on the roof.
And so what was Big Man's name who came up the path?
See- Johnson.
Johnson.
Mr. Johnson.
Yeah.
Real name.
He was a big man, Johnson.
He worked in the admin building there.
I think he came out.
Yeah, he came out of the building, turned around and-
Looked up at us.
Looked up at us.
And we probably ducked,
but it seemed to be a little too late
because I do remember him speaking to us.
Maybe saying our names?
Yeah, saying get down.
So we got down.
Did we, we got down and did we run into him?
No, we got down and we thought we were,
we thought we got away.
We did get away.
Yeah, we never had an interaction.
We didn't have a confrontation with anybody.
Well, I did.
When I got home and my dad said,
you got something to tell me?
Your dad knows Mr. Johnson.
Well, my dad works-
He worked together. In the law school, not together, my dad works in the law school, not together.
My dad worked in the law school, which was next door
to the administration building.
He got something to tell me.
And I don't remember exactly what I said,
but I'm sure it was, no.
Yeah, what else could it have been? Yeah, I was throwing rocks off the building.
I mean, it's like why?
And honestly, I thought we had done such a good job of covering our steps that when
he said that, I wasn't immediately in fear that he knew.
Because he had to explain it to me.
He's like, well, Mr. Johnson stopped by today
and told me that he saw you and Link
on top of his building throwing rocks.
Just showering rocks down a little bit.
Onto the street.
Is that true?
Yes.
Yeah, that-
That was probably the extent of the discussion.
Yep.
He's like bend over to couch.
And then there were, is you know, different time.
I have a 16 year old, when he was 14,
I was not doing this to him.
Different time, different generation.
But it was the protocol. I'm 47 years old. It was a protocol this to him. Different time, different generation. But it was a protocol.
I'm 47 years old.
It was a protocol that you understood.
Yep.
And it was metered and it was controlled
and it was not done in anger, it was just a policy.
Yeah.
And I received it in grace.
And it was less about the physical,
sure, it stung a little bit.
It was much less about that
and it was more about the humiliation of it.
It was more about the like,
you shouldn't be doing this kind of shit, boy.
And you know that.
You also got grounded.
I guess, I don't remember.
You had to have because I got grounded.
And the only reason I got anything,
because I did not get a spanking from my mama,
was because my mama talked to your mama,
and your mama had talked to your daddy.
So, Danny told your mama.
You always got watered down punishments from my family.
So I got, yeah, I got,
and what was being grounded? I probably didn't really, she probably said I was grounded, and then. And then what, yeah, I got, I got, I, and what was being grounded?
I probably didn't really,
probably said I was grounded and then.
And then what, yeah, what were the consequences?
I don't think I, I don't recall
ever experiencing being grounded, you know.
Come to think of it, I don't really know
what grounding was for me either,
like it wasn't like we had anything we could do.
Nintendo, or going out, like there were things you could,
you weren't allowed to do things, like.
Yeah, maybe. For a week,
you weren't allowed to. Couldn't go for a week you weren't allowed to-
Couldn't go to Carrie to watch a movie
at the Waverly Place.
Well, we weren't that old yet, we're 14.
So we couldn't even do that anyway.
Yeah, but we weren't allowed to have fun.
Couldn't go over to Campbell and watch the student movie
and D-Rich Auditorium.
Yeah.
Which auditorium? Yeah.
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But the other thing that I would get caught for, and this is different, but when I heard the word
caught, it made me think of this thing. And I think I may have told you about this before.
Tell me if you know I did this. And this is when I was younger, like I would get caught at my nanny's house,
especially outside in the backyard,
just squatting down, trying not to poop.
What?
Squatting down, trying not to poop?
Yeah, that's what I did.
I would squat down.
I'd be like, oh, I got to poop,
but instead of doing it, I would just drop down.
I would drop down and just try not to poop.
When you could just go inside and poop in the bathroom?
I really didn't wanna do that.
And I don't remember exactly why.
You didn't wanna poop that. And I don't remember exactly why.
You didn't wanna poop at somebody else's house?
I certainly didn't wanna,
had a hang up about pooping at other people's places,
but like, Nanny's house was like a second home.
It's like, she probably had one of those
soft toilet seats like all grandmas have.
She didn't have one of those that was like,
you sit on it and it goes, pssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss I'm not gonna get a flesh colored one. Well, why not?
My wife's an interior designer.
She doesn't want a flesh colored toilet.
Well, it's just a seat and it is mushy.
It's like it's made from human skin.
That's what you can tell people.
Okay.
My toilet seat is made from human skin.
But cadavers, they were already dead.
They weren't killed to make...
We're not killing people to make toilet seats.
But yeah, I did not want to take a crap,
I never took a crap at school,
you know, even when we were in like third grade,
by the time we went,
the story of me not crapping all week at camp,
like I had this fixation with not crapping anywhere
except at home,
and it went all the way to my grandma's house.
It's called anal retentive.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's the diagnosis.
You're retaining your anal.
I never knew why I was doing it,
but I was just compelled to do it or not do it.
And it was a bit embarrassing to like,
and why did I squat?
I guess so I could put the heel of my foot up my ass.
I was about to say it makes it worse if you squat.
Usually standing up against a tree or something.
Sorry to say it.
Like you want, yeah, you want to stand up straight
and clench your cheeks is what I would think.
But you know, I'm young.
I'm not consulting with anybody about this.
Definitely didn't ask me.
What's the best way to not know, to not poop?
Now listen, I didn't like to poop at school and rarely did.
Pooping at school, talk about not,
that is no seat like that.
It was green and hard.
It was green?
I thought it was one of those black toilet seats
with the white, the toilet was white,
but the seat was black.
I think in my mind, the toilet wasn't like a mint green.
But I think it was the stall.
At Buies Creek Elementary?
I think the stall and the floor was mint green,
but it just all, I didn't wanna go in there.
Yeah, the stalls were kind of green.
I never went like.
And the tiles were brown.
I was at Buies Creek Elementary School
from first grade to eighth grade.
Oh, I never pooped. Ever.
I probably pooped five times total.
And this is a complete guess.
I was a master at not pooping, man.
Well, sometimes you just can't help yourself.
Nope. I could always shove my heel up my asshole.
Oh, God.
If I had to.
So I understand that.
So here I am outside behind behind a tree at my nanny's house,
squatting down trying not to poop and it's embarrassing to get caught.
Link, what you doing?
Just looking, I'm inspecting this root system.
You wouldn't tell, your grandma used to chew up food for you and give it to you.
That was Nana. That was the other one. Oh, okay. Yeah, nanny wouldn't tell, your grandma used to chew up food for you and give it to you. That was Nana. That was the other one.
Okay.
Yeah, Nanny wouldn't do that.
You would have pooped at her house though, right?
Maybe I was a little more likely to poop at Nana's house
because I would stay there a lot longer.
Yeah, I think I would.
Yeah, I remember pooping at Nana's house. But I really had a hang up about it.
This sounds like a conversation for you and your therapist, which I guess you
probably have already had.
No, I'm not talking to my therapist about not pooping.
Really? This seems like...
Hold on, this is like fundamental childhood formation stuff.
I'm not comfortable enough to talk about that with anybody except the open
internet. You do talk to your therapist about this kind of stuff.
I mean, I haven't brought that up specifically.
Oh, well try it tonight or whenever you have it.
It is tonight.
Be like, you know what? Today on the podcast that thousands of people listen to,
I talked about the fact that I wouldn't poop as a kid. Let's talk about that.
I'm not gonna use a catch. Let's talk about that.
I'm not gonna use a catchphrase from our other show. Well, I was actually just literally saying it.
That's the beauty of it.
You find yourself saying it, it's like marketing.
You ever get caught whacking off?
No, I don't think.
I think that my mom would have just acted like
she didn't see me.
I do remember the one time that I had the Victoria's,
I was getting picked up by,
I've told you this,
I was getting picked up by Holly and Heather
to go to a church thing. Ooh. Yeah.
Upperclassmen women picking me up. And I was just like, mom wasn't at home
and I was sitting on the couch in the living room.
And my mom had this like basket of magazines
by the couch.
I remember the basket.
You remember the basket?
Yeah. In the basket? Yeah.
In the basket was porn.
Come to think of it,
it was nothing but porn. Your couch had a little bit of a sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was made out of toilet seats. Yeah.
You had a toilet seat couch. Right, our toilet seats were made out of human flesh
and our couches were made out of toilet seats.
You had a couch that you could have masturbated on
and cleaned up really easily.
Yes, and.
Is that what it was for?
I guess so, yeah.
You never took advantage.
So I'm sitting on this couch and I'm grabbing,
not pornography, but the closest thing we,
I believe the Victoria's Secret magazine.
It's close enough, it's at a certain age.
She would get that.
Why would she get that?
Why would she just leave it there?
Because she was a woman who wanted nice brassieres.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you blame her?
In the back of the Victoria's Secret magazine,
the underwear got lacer?
Oh yeah.
And skimpier and strappier.
And I'm getting back to that part of the magazine.
That's all it takes sometimes.
And lo and behold, time flies when you're having fun,
and then, but I wasn't having all the fun yet.
Okay.
I was starting to have the fun.
You knew that they were on their way.
And then they showed up early,
and then I'm like, oh crap, oh crap, they're here,
and I'm like, ha ha ha, you know,
and you're like in this panic mode.
So like, I run out the door and get in the car,
and realize that I've left this Victoria's Secret magazine
just splayed out on the couch.
And so you said, hold on a second.
I left something in the house.
I'm pretty sure I did this.
And I went back inside and stashed it away,
but that was a close call.
I'm sure you said, I can only imagine the kind of reason that you would come up with
in the heat of the moment.
I had so much...
As a 14 year old.
I had a lot of, like, I guess it's shame as a kid.
Like, I would sneak into my mom's bathroom and take her tweezers and pluck my eyebrows.
Like my unibrow.
Once she told me that I couldn't shave it, I had to pluck it.
But I was so embarrassed with my own mother, which has, I mean,
like the sweetest woman ever. It has nothing to do with her.
It has everything to do with me. That I was like, I was just embarrassed
for her to know that I plucked my eyebrows, much less whack off on our couch.
So, you know, I was very afraid of getting caught.
I still am, by the way.
I did not.
So maybe I should talk about this tonight.
You're still afraid of getting caught masturbating?
No, just getting caught in, yeah.
Just getting caught in general, like, for nothing.
Like, I frequently have feeling.
And you haven't talked about this
with your other friends.
Oh yeah, I talk about this.
Okay.
Like the shame, guilt thing and like the inexplicable,
like feeling guilty for nothing
is a familiar feeling to me.
But anyway.
Well, it is a statistical miracle that I was not caught
masturbating.
You never got caught?
I mean, talk about dodging a bullet.
You were probably smart about it.
You're a strategic thinker. You're a forward thinker.
Yeah, but I was so high volume.
Pfft. Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
What is this, sex temper? What's happening to us?
I don't know. We're, just freewheeling boys.
Just being honest about it.
Never once got caught.
Never?
I was smart about it.
Here I am in the living room.
Of course I'm not smart about it.
Yeah, I wouldn't have done that.
I'm sure I did not have the frequency you did.
That's probably true as well.
By any means.
Yeah, never got caught.
I mean, I'm sure there were, first of all,
I mean, always locked the door.
Always locked the door, right?
I mean, I also had a brother.
Oh.
You know, I had a sibling.
Older brother.
Yeah.
And we did not discuss any of this, you know what I'm saying?
It wasn't, this was an 80s brotherhood situation.
Yeah.
This wasn't like modern day brotherhood
where you like talk about things.
Yeah.
This was the 80s.
You never talk about anything emotional.
The dog never comes inside.
There's a lot of things that you gotta understand
about how we come up. Right, spankings.
But I guess I was just pretty crafty
because I definitely never,
there were stints when I got very guilty.
I mean, trust me, I struggled with the guilt
because I was also a very, very committed Christian who thought that what I was doing
was wrong the entire time.
Yeah.
I mean, is there anything that you got?
That would slow me down a little bit.
Did you ever get caught for anything else that you remember?
Holding a poop behind a tree perhaps?
Never, never.
Come on, tell me about it.
I was more likely to get caught pooping.
Than not.
Than not pooping.
I don't know.
You know, I've said this.
I'm not a criminal, but I would make a good one.
Yeah, you'd make a good one.
I think I could get away with stuff without getting caught.
Yeah, yeah.
Not me so much.
But you could talk me into anything.
Yeah.
I'd be quite an agent.
But I'm not a criminal, I don't have a criminal mindset.
That's good.
Maybe sometimes I wonder if it was a missed opportunity.
Because I feel like-
Which is why we're telling people to shoplift.
Like when I start thinking- A little bit.
Like you start thinking about things like-
Just a little birdhouse.
You watch so many movies about people trying to like
engineer the perfect crime or like get away with something.
And then I'm just like, oh, oh, ah.
Like I'm watching them make mistakes and I'm just like, oh, oh, ah. Like I'm watching them make mistakes and I'm like,
why did you, that was easy to anticipate.
Yeah, anticipation is the thing that requires
more effort for some than others.
You're not much of an anticipator.
No, it takes a little more effort.
That's why it was hard for you to hit a baseball.
Exactly.
But you were great at getting hit by one.
Right, because that's just a reaction.
Right, okay.
Total reaction.
Okay, it's all making sense now.
Let's hear one more.
Hey, Rhett and Link, it's Deirdre, huge fan.
I have a really important question for you.
Okay.
This is a question one of my friends posed to me. Would you rather give up sex or give
up the sun?
Okay.
So sex includes anything past like a peck kissing. And the sun means it's not always night, it can be day, but
you never truly see the sun, it's never sunny, it's like always cloudy and dark. For me,
I would give up the sun and keep sex, but a lot of people have said the other thing.
So let me know what you guys think. Bye.
It was all leading to this question today. I know. Here we are, backin' into sex. Or sun. Maybe we're just about to talk about
the sun and how great it is a whole lot.
The sun is great.
And maybe that's what we're about to do. The sun gives you vitamin D, but there's
other ways to get that D.
Oh yeah.
It's a mood booster.
You know, visited Vancouver and I was like, is it like this all the time?
Because it's a bit dreary.
Pacific Northwest, not really for me either, you know?
It's kinda.
But when the sun comes out, it's beautiful up there.
And people appreciate it.
But it's like two months out of the year or something.
So it does have a psychological impact,
but so does not the hanky panky happening, you know?
I'm choosing sex.
I'm adopting the life of the vampire, you know?
I can still get in a tanning booth, right? Yeah. Well, that's what I was gonna say. The technology for- I think what I'm adopting the life of the vampire. You know, I can still get in a tanning booth, right?
Yeah.
Well, that's what I was gonna say.
The technology for- I think what I'm gonna do
is I'm gonna get in like an infusion.
The simulation of the sun at this point,
you've got red light therapy,
you've got all kinds of things where you can like
meet those needs. But the simulation
for sex though is-
That's crossing the line.
You can't do that.
Yeah, that's true.
Because if you're gonna masturbate,
as we've already talked about, well, that's sex.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
Well, that wasn't specified.
Self-sex.
It's not good enough, I'll tell you that.
It's not good enough.
Well, I definitely agree with that.
So one of us needs to choose a son and it needs to be you.
Well, here's the thing.
I don't like to think about this,
but it just seems inevitable.
When you get to be a certain age,
and trust me, I am not at that age,
but when you get to be a certain age,
people stop caring about sex.
It's just... Now, there are some people who are like, you know, if you watch
National Geographic or TLC or whatever, maybe every once in a while there'll be
like a 95-year-old couple that's getting it on every once in a while.
On National Geographic?
I don't know. I'm just assuming I don't watch cable.
Is there like an old people show that they treat like wildlife?
All of the channels became other things, okay?
For all I know, National Geographic has got...
Old people having sex?
Old people having sex. I don't know. Sure it does.
TLC, you know what it stands for?
The Learning Channel.
Yeah, well, everything's information.
And think about what it became.
I can't actually say what it became.
Exactly, so I'm just saying the labels don't matter.
What does HGTV stand for?
Home and Garden.
Well, okay, that channel.
And I think they've stuck pretty true to that.
Okay.
They don't have any old people having sex on that channel
unless it's in a garden or a home.
But I think that most people just inevitably,
even if they try real hard to hold on,
they get to a place where,
if you were to ask like a 79 year old this question,
right, let's just say that person is like
entering into the no sex time in their life.
Yeah.
And they're like, sex or son, they'd be like,
what the hell, son.
Right. You know what I'm saying?
Like, I am hoping that-
You mean the sex that I have every four months?
I can keep that up.
Right.
But at this point in my life, I'm giving up the son.
Without doubt.
Are you okay if you were to know that, okay, 79,
you're kinda not sexually active anymore?
Well, here's the thing.
When you think about-
I think you've picked a good number there.
It's kinda difficult. When you think about yourself, this's the thing. When you think about- I think you've picked a good number there. It's kind of difficult.
When you think about yourself,
this is the thing.
Let's talk, let's get deep.
Let's talk about death for a moment.
Because a lot of people are like,
man, when I started thinking about maybe not existing,
like if you don't believe in an afterlife,
I don't know what happens after life,
and I don't think anybody does.
If it's something else, great.
If it's nothing else, there's no me present
to have a problem with it, right?
I've said this before, other people have said it.
I didn't care before I was born that I didn't exist
and I doubt I will care after I'm dead that I don't exist.
There's only the me in the present
that can project a care onto the future dead me
and be like, have some existential dread about not existing.
But once you're like, but there will be no me
to have any existential dread, it just kind of dissipates.
And so the idea of me being a 79 year old man
and no longer having sex to the 47 year old me
that really likes to have sex
and likes to have it pretty often,
that seems like travesty.
But what if the 79 year old me is like,
I'm into other things like making birdhouses.
Don't put it down your pants.
And I'm not doing anything with it sexually.
Again, it's just, you know.
Right, so what you're saying is that my question,
you have to put yourself in that age's mind frame.
And who are we to say what our 79 year old selves You have to put yourself in that age's mind frame.
And who are we to say what our 79 year old selves are really gonna be predisposed to and against?
I assume. Or capable of.
And again, I don't know.
I assume that if you stay healthy, if you stay active,
you can have an active sex life as an 80 year old.
Yeah, technological advances.
But there comes a time in which-
When you gotta hang it up.
There's not a time to come.
There comes a time in which there's not a time to come.
That was so wonderful and I've stopped you twice.
I'm just gonna let you say it twice without me saying anything.
Say it. I'll just say it once.
Say it.
There comes a time in which there's not a time to come.
And that's different for everybody.
But when that time comes,
and there's not a time to come for you,
you probably won't care because other things have come into your life
that you spend your time on.
That's our hope for you today, your biscoteer.
Yeah.
That when the time comes when you don't have come time.
Not exactly what I said, but still great. Still great.
That something comes into your time that makes you keep coming.
Yeah.
Showing up.
Yeah.
In that sense.
Yeah.
I wish that for you.
That's beautiful. I wish that for me. That's beautiful. Yeah. I wish that for you. That's beautiful. I wish that for me.
That's beautiful.
Yeah.
This has been fun.
Sometimes you gotta know when to end it, you know.
It's not right now.
Yep.
But you know what, I am gonna make a little reminder
for those of you who stuck around.
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Hi. Hi!
Hi, I'm Camille.
I'm from Texas.
I'm 26 years old.
Had to get health insurance this year.
What a crazy time.
Anyways, I love you guys.
I don't know what stopped me from watching Ear Biscuits all these years, but I'm so glad
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Most, one of the recent ones as of February 16th 2025. But I love you guys, I love your dogs.
You should bring more of them, you should get more of them, honestly.
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