Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - We Were Very Wrong About the Future | Ear Biscuits Ep. 410
Episode Date: January 22, 2024Did you have an alert on your phone to listen to Ear Biscuits at the start of the year, but couldn’t remember why? It was the time capsule episode from 2014! In this episode, Rhett & Link are revisi...ting the predictions they made for what things would be like in 2024, from the fashion to the tech. Plus, some listeners weigh in on Rhett’s “phone in the bedroom” problem. Mark your calendars for January 2034! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time.
I'm Link.
And I'm Rhett.
This week at the roundtable of dim lighting, we are going to be catching up with one another,
checking in on how well we're doing with the things that we said we would be doing in 2024.
Yeah.
And not just the things that we said we would be doing in 2024 just a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah.
I.e. New Year's resolutions,
but we're also gonna be checking in on a 10-year prediction,
going back to a very old Ear Biscuit
and see how things lined up.
How right we were and how wrong we were.
And are we prepared to then make predictions for another decade?
Maybe.
Based on the little bit that I saw.
Maybe we'll get some confidence from our success.
Christy told me yesterday, she was like, you know what?
We're getting ready for bed bed we're having our little
pre-slumber chat pre-slumber chat you know getting in the bed and um she was like
i've noticed a new habit that you've developed okay and this is usually it sounds like it could
be a critique it usually when you start a conversation like that.
My response was, oh, you notice that I am much more patient.
I'm habitually more grateful.
And yeah, she made that, you know.
And I was like, let me see if I can guess what it is.
And I immediately thought, well, is it related to my New Year's resolution,
of which I pretty much only made one.
But I didn't know how she would see that as me not using my phone on the toilet.
I just wouldn't know how she would see that as she would even observe that
as a new what she would call habit are you saying that because
you don't poop in front of each other um we can we're free to but we try to avoid it you know
we i try to be like shit's passing in the night kind of a thing yeah you know
you know because i don't keep the romance a lot know, because I don't- Keep the romance alive.
I am so jealous of you and anyone else that has-
An isolated toilet.
An isolated toilet closet.
Because you have a pony wall.
Yeah, I just got a pony wall.
That ain't enough, man.
The pony ain't enough to keep everything-
If you can still see the head of the pony,
you know what the pony's doing.
I'm trying to make a pony noise.
You need a pony door.
You need a pony room.
Right.
I wish I had a pony room.
Our remodel years ago would accommodate a window in the shower,
but it would not accommodate a box around the toilet.
Yeah.
You need more space than you think you do for that type of thing.
Right.
But I didn't think that she would notice that or call it a habit.
And I said, is it toilet related?
She was like, yes.
Oh.
Oh, and she was heated about it.
And then I realized it.
I was like, does that have something to do with the toilet seat?
She was like, does that have something to do with the toilet seat? She was like, yes. And it
just has been like over the past week or so. My goodness. Now that we're back home from vacation,
you're leaving the toilet seat up. You never did that before. Oh, this is very out of character
for you. Yeah. Cause I would in my, on that toilet, I would also pee sitting
down. Right. So why do you ever have the occasion to put the toilet seat up? Well, I didn't tell you,
but my other New Year's resolution was now I sit on the toilet with the seat up. It's like,
I go that much deeper. It's more fun. Yeah. I want to be closer to the water. It's less flashing.
I go that much deeper.
It's more fun.
Yeah.
I want to be closer to the water.
It's less flashing.
No, this is a correlation.
Now, when I'm just going to pee, in order to then remove the temptation to keep my New Year's resolution of not being on my phone while on the toilet, I'm going to not pee sitting down.
Oh, my goodness.
Now, I will say, the reason why— This feels like a big, big conflict here.
Yeah.
Oh my goodness.
Now I will say, the reason why- This feels like a big, big conflict here.
Yeah.
The reason why I pee sitting down, and that has been my habit for years, is because I love my toilet, and it's just a nice restful place to sit and just pee.
And who knows what else could happen?
But then I get on my phone.
All that's been fun.
Right, okay.
You know?
So you would get on your phone while peeing only been fun. Right, okay. You know? So you would get on your phone
while peeing only?
Because I'm seated there.
How long are you peeing? Well, we know you pee for quite a while.
You did win the long peeing contest
that we had on GMM. It's just that I'm seated
and my phone's there and, you know,
I'm starting to pee. Might as well
just out of habit. I whip my phone out
because I'm on the toilet. This is something I've never been challenged
with. The other reason I've done that is because there's no splash.
Like, even if you don't think there is, when you're standing and peeing into a toilet, there's a dissipation of splash that's happening on the floor and in the air.
It creates an aerosol of urine.
And I haven't loved that.
But now I'm giving my butthole the love that it needs by sitting less on a toilet seat.
Well, there you go.
That's also true, yeah.
So I'm standing to pee.
And I'm apparently not putting the seat back down.
You're just forgetting about the seat because it isn't a practice that you have cultivated.
Yeah, I've left it up.
Huh.
So now I'm trying to, you know,
I'm having to make lots of changes, you know,
in my life right now.
They're all related to the toilet.
You came to a fork in the road, you know,
and you're giving up.
You've placed a higher value on not getting on the phone
than getting a little P-Aerosol in the room or avoiding that.
Really, I am placing the highest value, and I don't want to camp out here.
But, yeah, like just my butthole health.
You've got to think about it.
It's important.
You've only got one.
I mean, most people.
I just can't stay in that position
any longer than I need to. It's not good for me.
I'll leave it at that.
So what that means is that
I've been trying my best to keep this
one resolution.
And I'm not, you know,
I don't know if I'm batting 1,000 or I might be batting about 300, which is good, right?
You know, I still whip out my phone occasionally.
30% of the time.
I'm not whipping out my phone on the toilet.
It might be 50-50.
Maybe it's 60.
Maybe I'm doing okay.
Every time that I sit on the toilet, I am thinking about the decision I made.
And it's a more active decision if I'm overriding it.
So I feel good about that.
And I think that my body's going to thank me.
And so, yeah, and it's also good to not be on the phone.
But my wife's not thanking me yet because I got to learn to push that seat back down.
I thought, I mean, you've got a very fancy toilet.
I thought it did it automatically.
That part started messing up within the first two months.
I have the fanciest toilet.
When you walk up to it, it had a lid, like the lid lid.
Right.
You need that open to do anything.
Yeah.
That would open on its own, and then that stopped working.
You know, that's interesting because I have a semi-fancy toilet.
Mm-hmm.
And that's the first thing that went wrong on that, too.
Yep.
And so I turned that off, so now my toilet is not watching me constantly
and reporting it to, I don't know.
Google.
The TBI.
The Toilet Bureau of...
Investigation.
Yeah.
Well, you're doing better than me.
So I'm trying, I'm giving it my best.
You're doing better than me because you're trying.
You're not even trying to keep your phone
from your bedside table?
You haven't even tried.
Well, let me remind you, unless I'm wrong.
I thought that my resolution encompassed your resolution
and then extended it.
Because I thought I also said
I didn't want to poop with the phone.
Yeah, you did.
I pooped with the phone this morning.
I mean, I've already done it.
But it sounds like you've... I'm not pooping with a phone. morning. I mean, I've already done it. But it sounds like you've...
I'm not pooping with a phone.
I'm not actually using the phone as part of the pooping process.
I don't even know what that would mean.
I'm pooping while phoning.
I know it.
Or phoning while pooping.
I know what you're saying.
And it is a problem.
Did it even cross your mind?
Did my life flash before your face?
Did it even cross your mind?
Did my life flash before your face?
I got to say that I think I suffered from a common predicament in my life and probably your life as well, which is forgetting something that we talked about.
Oh, you totally.
You know the blood brain barrier,
something David Blaine came up with?
The blood brain barrier.
Yeah.
We have like the camera life barrier.
Yeah.
And sometimes-
You came up with a,
what you're saying is you came up with the resolution
just for entertainment purposes.
Well, you start, if I recall correctly,
you had a resolution and I was glomming
onto your resolution. Yeah, yeah you were.
Right, and because my resolution was-
On camera. On camera.
My resolution was made on camera.
It did not pass the camera life barrier.
All right, that's fair, that's fair.
I totally understand.
I was in a mode.
Now, have you ever pooped on camera
with your phone in your hand?
No.
You had to think about it, though.
Well, I mean, I wouldn't put it past us.
Right.
We have peed on camera.
We have plucked our pubes on camera.
We haven't filmed anything except this podcast this year.
I don't think you could poop.
I don't think we would poop on camera.
No. I don't really think would poop on camera. No.
I don't really think we would do that.
No, we wouldn't.
We have farted on camera.
By accident.
I almost pooped.
And then on purpose.
Yeah.
God, Rhett.
Jamie told us, last conversation we had with Jamie was like,
TikTok doesn't know what to do with bathroom talk.
Yeah, we talk about it too much.
I agree.
Not that this podcast is reduced to something working on TikTok
because we'd never think about that.
It hasn't, but it does.
And here we are stepping right in it.
Yeah, I don't know why we do it.
But it's our resolution.
We're just immature.
We're immature.
We're just being ourselves and ourselves are immature.
No, we're just immature. We're immature. We're just being ourselves, and ourselves are immature. No, we're just being human.
But you have succeeded.
Within the realm of being on mic or camera,
you have not taken out your phone while on the toilet.
So you're doing it.
Do you want to bring this resolution into your non-
Well, the thing that I was actually more interested in-
Recorded life?
The thing I was more interested in
was the bedside part of this.
Yeah, that's where we-
And I will say I have thought about this.
Oh.
I have thought about it.
Because I was like,
okay, well, what am I going to do about an alarm?
I got to get an alarm clock.
I actually bought an alarm clock for Shepard.
Because Shepard, everybody in our house has a, like a Google Home in their room.
And so we can just be completely tapped in at all times.
It's very healthy.
And that's how Shepard sets his alarm.
He's a 15 year old though.
And apparently it takes more than what Google has to offer
to wake up a 15 year old.
Yeah.
I do not believe that there is an alarm volume.
All you have to do is say, stop.
I hear Lando saying that,
because he does the same thing.
He's supposed to get up at 7, and I hear him in there.
I hear the alarm go off.
All you got to do is say, stop.
Do you eventually have to go get him up?
This morning I did, yes.
Oh, good.
You don't have to move an inch.
Makes me feel a little more safe.
You don't even have to.
Your mouth is already open because you're sleeping,
and I can tell he doesn't even move his mouth.
He's like, stop.
And Google understands that did you get to say hey Google stop or just stop all he says is stop
Because I think it's when it's going in those yeah, when it's coming it knows it's way too easy
Yeah, yeah, it's way too easy so in Shepherd. You know we built a loft in his room, so his bed is up stairs
Basically yeah, yeah up a ladder. his room, so his bed is upstairs, basically.
Yep, yep.
Up a ladder.
Yep.
And I'm actually kind of jealous.
You want to sleep up a ladder?
I've always wanted to sleep up a ladder.
Okay.
Well, put a bunk bed in your bedroom.
Jesse's not into it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
It's like she's giving a tour.
My interior designer wife is not into the idea. She's giving a tour to her friends that are curious what she did with the bedroom.
Of a bunk bed.
My husband insisted upon a bunk bed.
I mean, that's a good design challenge.
You each sleep in a bunk?
No, we both sleep on the top bunk.
That's a loft, right?
The bunk bed is funnier.
I present to Jesse the design challenge.
This is bloggable.
This would go big on the intersphere, on the internet.
They almost called it that.
Back in 2014.
Never mind.
Go ahead.
You bought an alarm for Shepard so that he could get out.
He would have to climb down out of the loft in order to deactivate it.
And I searched super loud alarm.
Oh, God.
I just laughed and, like, I don't know what's coming out of my nose.
Pass me those tissues.
Give me some tissues, please.
Pass me the whole box.
Oh, God.
I'm drooling.
Super loud alarm.
I can't even imagine it.
I haven't tested it yet.
It actually arrived last night.
Did you tell him that you were doing that?
Oh, I had Amazon open as I told him.
I am currently buying you a super loud alarm.
And it's going to be downstairs in your two-story room.
And you're going to have to get your ass up to cut it off.
And basically, the whole house is going to be hearing it until you cut it off.
Yeah.
So we'll see.
I'll give you an update on that later because...
It's not in yet.
All I know is you cannot say stop and get it to stop.
Stop.
But we got him...
We actually talked about this on GMM years ago.
There's an alarm clock that would be on your dresser or whatever.
And then when it went off,
it would jump off of the dresser and run around the room.
We got him that and he hit it or something.
Cause we don't know where it's at.
Like,
I think he was like,
you're not going to do this to me.
Well,
he buried it in the backyard.
I don't know where it is.
Probably going to kill this one too. Well, I'm not in the backyard. I don't know where it is. He's probably gonna kill this one too.
Well, I'm not gonna let that happen. Because
this is the battle that I'm having right now.
Is the, I do not
believe that you should require
my intervention or Jesse's
intervention to get up.
Because at some point, you're not
gonna have that in life.
Wow.
But, so I've been thinking about alarm clocks.
And you have your own problems.
And, boy, once you get into the world of alarm clocks,
there's the one that looks like a half sun
that a lot of people are into that gets advertised to me
on the various platforms.
Yeah.
And it looks beautiful.
I can't tell if it's two feet wide or, you know, I haven't
seen it in my, I haven't done the thing where you put it in your space using your phone. I don't
know how big it is, but it seems to be pleasant. It seems like it also doubles as a noise machine.
It's a gentle noise machine. This is the trend. But I'm still trying to figure out what that means
about my phone and i i did
see some of your comments i will say but you know what we got some voicemails from people
that we're going to listen to uh feedback on my predicament okay
hey ret and link i think i have a very obvious answer to Rhett's issue with the phone in the bedroom. I think the
key is a pager system, right? You just got to get a pager and then your loved ones or your colleagues
can send you a page if something urgent comes up, but that way you don't have like social media
access or anything like that. I also strongly recommend a wake-up light. You can find them on
Amazon, but they're lights that slowly rise over a certain amount of time, so it feels like you're waking up to the sun.
And there's different audios that you can choose, so you don't have to go with
a harsh alarm sound. I would love to see Rhett walking around
with a pager on his hip, so I hope it works out. Thanks. Bye.
What pager? I would love to see
Rhett walk around with a pager on his.
That made me feel weird.
That's my favorite part.
Can we go ahead and get the light thing out of the way?
Because Jenna is giving an emphatic nod.
I think it's the light that I just described.
Yes, that was the light.
Yeah, that's one of them.
Oh, you all have new mics.
Yeah, I know we've got new mics.
You reached over and grabbed an arm.
I was like, where is she?
Oh, it's a new mic. Wow, look at this. We don you all have new mics. Yeah, I know we've got new mics. You reached over and grabbed an arm. I was like, where is she? Oh, it's a
new mic. Wow, look at this.
We don't even have this.
Same mics, different.
We've got little arms now.
Very official.
So do you have one of these?
I don't because
I use what I already
have and since I have a
Google Home, I have
automatic I have it automatically Home, I have automatic, I've automatically
set up that my lights, certain lights come on when the sun rises.
Okay.
In my room.
In your room.
In my room. Because like, I don't have like, where my room is, like the light, it's just
kind of like, it's not super bright.
The sun doesn't shine in it.
Okay.
You live in a cave.
Yes, I do.
Man.
First of all, you know, I was into the,
I went really hard into the whole Google Home
and all the lights and everything when we installed them.
And I have routines that are set up,
but I haven't added anything.
And I haven't played around.
Like, I've got lights in each lamp on the sides of the bed that can be any color that a human can see.
Sunrise.
There you go.
So I think Jesse might be into that.
But the lights that they're talking about in the voicemail are, it like slowly simulates the sun rising.
Yeah, it's much more gradual.
It's a gradual.
Have you not seen the one that looks like the sun?
Uh-uh, that's cool.
It's really pretty.
Yeah, I would love one of those, but I already have stuff that can kind of do the same thing.
So it seemed like a waste of
money to get that when I could just write two other things the one I see all
the time is the hatch restore not a sponsor I don't know if it's any good I
just see people talking about it but what does it connect to Google Home it
connects to your phone.
See, because if you go to the top, it's like, oh, you got an app and you're doing all this stuff.
It's only $130, which is a lot to pay for an alarm, but.
I'm over here begging for a bless you.
Bless you.
Are you okay?
I was waiting.
I thought you were going to do a third one.
I like to do it at the end instead of for each.
Anyway, I just haven't fixed it yet.
A pager?
I love that idea.
That's hilarious.
You can still buy a pager?
But I only need a pager at night.
It's a night pager.
I don't need a pager all the time.
Yeah, you would keep it by your bed. It would just be a bedside pager. I don't need a pager all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You would keep it by your bed.
It would just be a bedside pager.
I would wear a belt to bed.
Then it would be on the belt.
Yeah, she would never see you wearing a pager.
It would be a bedside pager.
I think I,
well, I think I can kill two birds with one stone
because you remember that belt that I bought
that had plastic balls on each side
and the stomach?
To force you.
So you had to sleep on your back?
Yeah.
I don't know what I did with it.
It broke.
Shepard buried it with that alarm clock.
I need to get the back sleeping belt back and I need to put a pager on it.
Put a pager on it.
You're like sleeping Batman.
Oh no, you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to get a regular belt and I just put a pager on it. Put a pager on it. You're like sneaking Batman. Hold on, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to get a regular belt, and I just put a pager on my belly.
Yes.
And that way, I got to get you three pagers.
Yep, there you go.
So I give my mom three different numbers that she can call.
It gives her a better chance of getting in touch with me.
Mom, these are my three new pager numbers.
Also, it keeps me from rolling over.
Don't worry, I'm not going to explain it. Well, can I have a pager? Can Jesse have a pager, and can your mom have a pager numbers. Also, it keeps me from rolling over. Don't worry. I'm not going to explain it.
Well, can I have a pager? Can Jesse have a pager? And can your mom have a pager?
Yeah. Which hip you want? Left or right? Left. Link, left. Mom, middle.
Jesse on the right. I don't have a way to make that work.
Okay.
So that's my three pager system.
And you can't roll over on those pagers. Look at that.
I got to get big pagers though.
Pagers are probably really tiny now.
So I need an old pager.
A big brick ass pager.
Because you're not sleeping on your back.
Man, you keep adding things you need to do.
Here's the thing.
I tried the back sleeping thing.
That belt broke.
And then I was, my back got better. I and then I was my back got better I was doing it
for my back okay my back ended up getting better and so I was like maybe I don't need to do that
okay but we somebody else gave another suggestion let's listen to that
hey red link this is christy uh I was just listening to the podcast where ret is talking
about not wanting to keep his cell phone in his bedroom anymore at night or in the morning,
but still needing there to be a way someone could contact him in case of an emergency.
And you're, like, asking what device that could be.
And I totally get that.
And I think the device that you need to get is a landline.
And only us old people will know what a landline is anymore or
will have ever used one and jenzy probably has no clue what i'm talking about but uh yeah i think
you need to get a landline so that someone could still call you and you might be looked at as a bit
of an old guy but you know what you embrace that because you are old and I'm old. And there you go. I love the fact that-
Love you.
She thinks Jessie is so much younger than you that she doesn't know what a landline is.
Right.
Like the age difference would have to be like she was your daughter.
I'm two years older.
I thought she said Gen Z, but I could be wrong.
Oh.
Oh.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
That makes more sense.
I do call Jessie Genzy sometimes.
Genzy, Genzy, Jesse, yeah, it's very close.
I'm gonna start calling Jesse Genzy.
Yeah, okay, that makes more sense.
You know, literally up until three months ago,
I had a landline.
Wow, you did?
Yeah.
Where was it?
So when we, the phone itself was in Locke's room
because that's where the internet comes into the house.
Yeah.
And so that's where the one little phone jack was.
And when we signed up for cable and internet eight years ago.
They still gave you a line.
We got a landline.
And so I was like, well, this is pretty cool.
Having a landline is a good, you know, it's a good backup.
It's a way to get in touch.
Never gave the landline out to anyone.
Somebody had it, though.
Oh, really?
You know, it was a number.
It was a recycled number.
So three times a year we would get a phone call that we would not answer.
That felt weird, didn't it?
Why is Locke's room ringing?
And I had this idea that if I can't get in touch with you guys when we're out and we
need to get in touch with you, I've got this landline number, but it was a very dad thing
that did not go beyond the dad family barrier.
Yeah, this doesn't work. This doesn't work because you would have to give that number
to only, you'd give it to a set number of people
who would not keep it.
And that would be like, if you need to get in touch with me
at between these hours, you call this number.
Yeah, it's putting the onus on other people,
which is also the problem with the pager.
It's like-
What I want is a device in my house.
I've already told you.
Where if you call my number at night,
it still wakes me up, but my phone is not in the bedroom.
How's that?
What do I do?
Do I get, what do I do?
Just put the do not, I've already told you what to do.
Put the, put your do not disturb on that the functionality exists for people to break through if they call three times or whatever.
If they're on a certain list.
But the phone is still there.
Put it on the other side of the room.
The phone is still present in the room.
But it's not by your bed.
But the Wi-Fi is giving me cancer.
That's all you need to do, man.
We've sat here and we've talked about this so much,
and we're back at the exact same place.
I'm so embarrassed for us.
Yeah, we don't make progress.
It's frustrating to watch.
We're not even three weeks into the new year.
And it's even less than that when we're actually recording this.
But I feel like I'm doing okay.
But you're doing okay.
I've been reading. You're doing okay. I've been reading.
But you're doing okay because you haven't started.
Now you can start.
I haven't been on my phone in the bed very much.
I'll say that.
Put your phone and the charger over there, across.
On Jesse's side.
Sure.
And listen, you're doing this to Shepard.
Yeah. You need to do this
To yourself man
I just gotta get
The alarm clock
You know what
One day Shepard's
Not gonna be there
To have nothing to do
With this problem
Like he currently doesn't
Yeah what am I gonna do
And I'm gonna be sleeping
In his bunk bed
You're gonna have to
Yeah right
You're gonna be
I'll be sneaking out
Every night after me
And Jesse go to bed
And I'll be in the bunk bed
When we wake up.
It's just funner up here.
I feel so high.
Yeah, okay, I'll figure it out.
Don't worry about me.
I just figured it out for you.
I did all the work.
We have another voicemail.
Last year.
We have another voicemail.
Hey, this is Adler from 10 years in the future.
I just listened to the I'm Capsule episode from 2014,
and I found in my calendar to listen to this old Ear Biscuit, so I did.
And I'd say the funniest thing I found listening to it 10 years later is hearing Rhett say that he didn't take people on a Google meet or a Zoom link type of meeting.
He didn't take them seriously because they were on a screen.
And now that's all we do.
So pretty funny.
I still don't take him seriously.
Even yourself.
Yeah, so many of you reached out
at the beginning of the year letting us know,
I don't know, I've got this reminder on my phone
telling me to listen to this old Ear Biscuit.
I love the fact that this happened.
And they didn't know why.
Right, because we didn't-
We started to figure it out. Because when we told you to make a reminder it wasn't we didn't it didn't come with an explanation
but many of you did figure out it was asking you to listen to an episode from 10 years ago in which
we tried to uh create a moment in time a time capsule of the way things were and then there
were some predictions that we made about the way things would be in 2024.
Before we get into those, I just want to take a second to acknowledge something pretty awesome.
We put the first Good Mythical Evening, which is back from 2021,
when the R-rated, completely unhinghinged we didn't know what to predict because
it was the first time we had ever done it um and it it was wild and if you weren't there for it you
didn't get to see it if you didn't rent it for the next few days well now we've put it on the
mythical society where it's going to live permanently for streaming.
If you are a second or third degree member of the Mythical Society, you can watch the first Good Mythical Evening at your leisure whenever you want to.
And if you're third degree, you can also watch the after show.
So I'm not going to rewatch it because...
Just for your own sake.
Just for my own sake. Just for my own sake.
It was a bit extra for me.
You know, the Mythical Society... My inebriation was a bit extra.
The Mythical Society continues to be...
I don't know, man.
I'm just very excited about what we've got going on over there.
I'm gonna take a moment to just add on to what you just said because...
Do it.
You know, we're celebrating very soon, next month, going on over there. I'm gonna take a moment to just add on to what you just said because- Do it.
You know, we're celebrating very soon,
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of the Mythical Society.
And, you know, we start a lot of things, as you know.
We start a lot of things, we try a lot of things.
We don't necessarily stick with everything
because some things don't work.
And I'm very proud of the fact that our team has done such a good job with the
Mythical Society in making it better and better and making it what I think is,
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Can I just say that?
In terms of the amount of things that you-
If you're into us.
Yeah, you got to be- If you're into us.
Yeah, you gotta be.
If you're a fan of something,
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I just think with the number of things that keep getting added over there,
and the number of things that people can experience-
The cumulative value.
Yeah.
I think the team does an incredible job with that.
And the membership continues to grow over there.
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Like that was the whole point of it was to create something that,
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Okay, so let's get back to these things. We should start by saying aloha because that's what we said would be the greeting in 2024.
And we're right.
We're right.
I think it can still happen.
I hear it everywhere.
I mean, you know, if you travel to certain places, it's a common saying.
And it's catching on.
Right?
I mean, I will note we're at the beginning of the year.
You know, maybe we should wait to the end.
It could be the year of Aloha.
It could be.
Let's actually make that happen.
I don't know if we can make that happen.
No.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, yeah.
Culturally?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we shouldn't be the ones to make it happen.
If it's going to happen, we can be along for the ride, but I don't think we can try to make it happen.
That's a good point.
I agree with that.
Aloha to that idea.
The beauty of it is it's hello and goodbye.
That's what we said.
That's what we were thinking, that everyone would understand.
Now, we talked about the fashion at the time.
We called ourselves hipsters in a non-derogatory way.
Maybe it should have been derogatory. We were wearing skinny jeans at the time, we called ourselves hipsters in a non-derogatory way. Maybe it should have been derogatory.
We were wearing skinny jeans at the time.
Whew.
Glad that's over.
And there was a discussion, not a prediction as much as a discussion about where we were going to go from here.
Could they get tighter?
For me, I was definitely already like, I really hope they do not get any tighter.
They couldn't.
There were tighter jeans than I ended up wearing.
You were a little bit tighter than me,
but then there were jeans that were tighter
than the jeans that you were wearing.
Jeans that look like leggings.
You know what I'm saying?
That was a thing that some people wore.
What were we thinking, man?
The same thing we're thinking now it's all subconscious trends
it's just like you think that things look good when they it's not that they look good they just
look new and different or whatever right because the magazines have like really dramatic lighting
on people wearing whatever it is they think but we were we were conjecturing and one of the
possibilities was that with the the trend reverse, and it really has.
I mean, Shepard wears the pipe jeans, you know, basically.
But we didn't give a hard prediction that like, oh, we're going to be in these like ballooning pants.
So we can't take credit for that.
Yeah, Rhett, you were more hopeful that they would go in the other direction.
You were just wishing.
Because you felt forced into the skinny jeans.
I feel like they went too far, though.
They're too big?
I'm saying for a 6'7 man with my body shape, there's a too skinny and too big.
Big guys don't look good on the extreme ends of the fashion spectrum.
It's just hard for us.
good on the extreme ends of the fashion spectrum.
It's just hard for us.
And so I think like a Levi's 501 jean or whatever,
whatever the middle jean is,
is the jean that is objectively the best looking jean.
Well, it's a dad jean,
but when you're a dad, you can't wear it.
It doesn't work.
I've got a pair of 501s.
Yeah.
Well, what you got on is kind of dad-ish.
It does work, I guess.
These are bigger.
Okay. The funny thing about these is, Link, it's not actually a jean.
Isn't that interesting?
No.
What?
What do you mean?
It's technically classified as a chino.
That's interesting to me.
I don't know what that means.
It's just like a different cut, but it looks like jeans, but it's not denim.
It is denim.
Well, it's a different type of denim that is a chino.
I don't understand.
It's just like it was very confusing.
What's the difference between a chino and a jean?
That's what we need to know.
If we're going to get to the next 10 years, that's what we need to know.
Like, look, like, see this thing?
Like, look, it's like more like...
It's more pants.
It's more pantsy.
Yeah, it says chinos are made from chino cloth, which is similar to denim,
but denim is classically a heavier fiber, where chino cloth is lighter weight.
You see, it's very okay
it's very thin yeah you know okay but they're bigger i if i had to choose between these and
what we had at 2014 definitely these because these are much more comfortable i mean the pandemic had
like a huge accelerant on on this change but i would have thought that 10 years is plenty of time
to balloon pants this big.
I don't know what the cycle is.
Because it will start getting small again.
We thought that, we talked about ties,
because skinny ties are in.
Of course, they're not in anymore.
But what we thought was that in 2024, it would be all about the bolo tie.
The skinniest of ties.
The skinniest of ties, where it becomes like a shoelace around your neck.
And we were wrong about that, and we just have to come out and say, we were wrong.
I hate bolos.
About bolo ties, and we are...
Sorry?
Sorry.
I'm not sorry.
We're sorry that we got anyone excited.
I don't think anyone was hurt.
I know.
I don't apologize if no one was hurt.
Somebody started buying up bolo ties.
Okay, if you went into debt because you boloed up back in 2014,
I'm sorry.
Well, in between, over the past 10 years,
somebody was like investing in a bolo business.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
There's probably a bolo business out there because of us.
Because of us. That failed.
I will say, I think the thing that really derailed,
I don't even know what the tie fashion is now.
Again, because of the pandemic.
When do you wear a tie now?
No tie.
You wear a tie when you go to something that is definitively formal.
You don't wear ties.
People don't wear ties to work.
Like agents.
Have you noticed this?
Agents and lawyers, attorneys.
But the one that changed the most is agents.
Agents in 2014, if you went into a talent agency,
agents were wearing suits and ties.
You're right.
You go into an agency now, nobody's got a suit and tie.
No one has a tie on.
No one.
That's right, man. We got to suit and tie. No one has a tie on. No one. That's right, man.
We got to get them back.
You go into a law firm now, and they might have on a dress shirt.
Now, we're not talking about, just for clarity, we're not talking about secret agents.
Right.
We're talking about entertainment agents.
Yeah.
We don't know anything about, we don't know any secret agents.
Well, maybe we do.
Right.
We just don't know if we do.
Exactly.
But I don't think they're wearing ties because I don't
see anybody wearing ties.
So maybe that's what makes them secret.
Ties got derailed.
Yeah. And we don't care.
Now, in the area
of tech, we were
talking about what we call
the new Apple iWatch.
Which was not what it was called ever.
Except maybe like two years before it came out
when people were predicting it.
But this is after it came out,
and it was called the Apple Watch.
Well it was just announced and we didn't know how to do it.
I don't know which one of us said it,
but I apologize for whoever did.
It was Rhett.
Yep, it was you again, man.
Talking about the iWatch.
I probably didn't even know it existed.
You knew it existed and called it the iWatch.
I might call it the iWatch now, just kind of slipping up. I apologize if you bought, if you invested in iWatch.com back in 2014
thinking that it was going to be the big thing and it's-
Build a business around it.
It was actually Apple Watch.
Which incidentally, I don't know the latest on this,
but Apple Watch has got shut down.
Did you know about this?
There was a-
Government regulations in certain places.
There's a lawsuit.
There's like some,
the phones got shut down in France,
but then the watch got shut down, the iWatch.
Because of a lawsuit, because of a patent lawsuit.
Oh, not because of radiation.
No, because the latest version,
of the latest couple of versions maybe,
of the watch, of the iWatch,
they were using some other technology
and they successfully sued.
I haven't checked in on it, I don't know know what the latest is I don't wear an Apple watch anymore because I'm trying
to remove myself from the matrix okay the US contemporary so an Apple can
temporarily sell them because of the US appeals court win okay oh yeah I knew
Apple they would figure something got so much money.
When you got that much money,
can anybody really stop you?
I hope so.
Holograms.
Why did we talk so much about holograms?
We said they were only projections for
Tupac and Michael Jackson, but our
prediction was that video
conferencing would be in hologram form.
That has not happened. I mean, but we were at least talking about video conferencing.
You know, because that's what you want. That's what we thought we wanted because you disrespected
video conferencing so much that you were like, the only way that it will catch on is if they feel like they're sitting in the room
like the Jedi Council.
Yeah, and that hasn't happened.
The technology is too complicated.
And there's no demand for it because everybody's on board
with this thing that you didn't respect, which is meeting via a screen.
What I do think will happen,
not that we're making predictions, but now I am.
The thing that is much more likely to happen
than an actual hologram
is an augmented reality version of the person you're talking to
on some sort of device that you're looking through.
Meaning?
Well, you know how you look at your phone.
It's flat.
No, when you look at augmented reality through your phone, like if you're playing Pokemon Go, whatever it is.
And it's like, I can put a little Poke thing on my.
Yeah.
Or I can visualize this couch in my room using my phone.
I mean, that's the thing that the eyeglasses
that Apple came out with.
Eyeglasses that are too expensive and people are not buying.
But it's just as much AR as VR.
Right.
I think what'll happen is
you'll just have
a way of interacting with
somebody in AR.
I'm not saying that's gonna happen.
I'm saying
it's not gonna be holograms.
It will be AR if it was anything
in terms of a three-dimensional interaction
with somebody.
Because holograms,
it's like you gotta have like
a system
that no one's gonna have.
But I still don't really take people
on video conferences seriously.
Let me just say,
if I'm in a real meeting with people
and one person couldn't show up
and they're on a computer, I take them a little
less seriously.
You're not giving them as much love. Even subconsciously. Yeah. It's like, oh, you're a computer, I take them a little less seriously. Well, you're not giving them as much love.
Even subconsciously.
Yeah.
So, oh, you're a computer person.
Everyone else is real person here.
Yeah, you're, yeah.
You know, it's gonna take a lot for us to-
You're not as smart in meetings as I thought you were.
All of us to shut up and listen to you on the computer.
You don't carry as much weight.
Unless you're on a really big computer. You don't carry as much weight. Unless you're on a really big computer.
So we gotta do something about that.
Because it's hybrid now.
So there is a competition.
Some people in the room.
Happens a lot here now.
So many meetings are hybrid meetings.
A lot of people in the room.
Oh yeah, there's the person on the screen talking.
Yeah.
Buh. Bleh.
Bleh.
We were talking about self-driving cars and how people didn't trust it.
And it's like, it's the same.
Nothing's changed.
This is one of the remarkable things, right?
Because I think I talked about the fact that people would,
that we would have moved forward in the conversation by now, right?
Jamie, is that what I said?
Yeah.
There's no progress.
It doesn't, I mean, technology progress, but like.
Well, you got people like Elon who,
you can go back and see what he has said every single year.
And he always talks about how it'll happen next year.
It'll be fully automated.
It'll be great, whatever. and it never happens yeah um and as you know and as you have shamed me into admitting i drive a tesla and um i have done the fully automated driving a number of times and
at least 10 times i've thought that i'm going to die like it's it makes so many dumb decisions at
crucial points
where I have to like grab it back from itself.
So I just think that the,
I do think it'll eventually happen,
but I am stunned at how little progress has been made
in 10 years and how the distrust
that I would have like looked down upon.
You now act upon. I now am part of, I'm like, like, looked down upon. You now act upon.
I now am a part of.
I'm like, well, listen, I think I do a better job than this thing.
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We predicted that presidents would be digital.
We couldn't have meant that.
But I think maybe we meant that like
we talked about dead relatives
being digitized,
being uploaded to hard drives.
Well, we didn't talk about AI.
I mean, we should have talked about AI.
We didn't know anything about it.
We didn't know anything about it.
And look at it now.
It is the main thing.
It is, I mean, It is such a huge, earth-shaking, watershed development.
And it's happening so quickly that I never want to talk about it on a recording that comes out a week later because it's already irrelevant.
Old.
Things are moving that quickly,
you know?
But we have to talk about the thing
that I showed you the other night.
Yes.
Because when you talk about
the dead relative thing.
Yeah, I mean,
because that is happening.
We were right about this one
in a sense.
Or we can now see
that it's about to happen.
So I was,
and again,
when we talk about these things,
like you said, a couple of weeks will pass
before this comes out, so I don't know what will happen.
And this could have been revealed to be totally fake
or whatever, but I stumbled upon a TikTok
from the Dudezy podcast, which is Will Sasso,
who's a comedian from MADtv, a great impressionist,
and then some other guy.
Sorry, I'm calling him another guy.
I don't know anything about these guys.
I know nothing about the podcast other than I keep seeing clips of them reacting to AI things, audio, video, and they're just laughing about it.
And I don't know who's making it, but you can kind of tell it's AI generated images and then AI generated voice models of famous people
saying stuff that seemed like it was
written by AI. And it's hilarious.
Which makes sense to me because Will,
at least of the two,
I don't know, I'm calling the other
guy too, is
an impressionist, right?
An excellent one. Yeah.
His Jesse the Body Ventura is immaculate.
And that's important.
So then he's reacting to the impersonations that AI can do.
Right.
And I don't know who's making it, and I don't know what role.
I don't understand any of the elements of it. All I know is that they released a one-hour George Carlin special of George Carlin
commenting on modern-day events. Yeah. And it was called I'm Glad I'm Not Dead,
and it was a special. And at the top of it... I'm glad I am dead.
I'm sorry. I'm glad I am dead. Now, first of all, if you just listen to it, I'd make a couple of observations about it.
It is legitimately funny, legitimately insightful,
very hard to decipher or pick up on the fact that it's AI.
There's a couple of places where it's like, okay,
maybe there was some uncanny valley thing about the way that was put
that feels a little bit like maybe it was generated.
But if you didn't know that you were supposed to be listening for that, you'd be like, this is George Carlin.
He's still alive and he's doing a comedy routine about 2024 right now in the state of the world, giving the same types of insights that he would typically give.
the preface of this one hour special from another AI that I guess is dudesy.
I don't know.
Again,
I don't know much about this is claiming that the thing is entirely
generated by AI.
Because when I sent it to you,
you were like,
I think probably what happened is this is a voice model.
And the guy's like doing an impersonation of it.
And then it's like modeled using AI,
but they wrote the jokes.
Like people wrote the jokes ostensibly they didn't write the jokes and that this was ai figuring it out but
it's hard to believe that ai would be this good right now at comedy but like we talked about
when we were talking about the other day it's It's gonna be that good a company. Yeah.
It's only a matter of time.
And there's, I mean, you can take the body of work
of George Carlin because it exists in media
and you can give it to AI.
Now you, so if you have a dead relative
who has a body of media, then you can do that.
If you don't, you can't.
So like for us, we can totally be preserved.
Think about how much shit we've said on the internet.
Oh my gosh, we, like for our kids, grandkids,
great grandkids, we will, like that is the prediction,
is that we will be a part of their lives.
You will be, without doubt, you will be able to.
Unless they don't want us to be.
And then they just turn us off.
But here's the thing.
You and I, yes, we put ourselves out there and there's enough information, by far enough information, to create an AI that then is perfectly set up to react in a situation exactly how we would react.
Like if I was talking to Link based on everything that he's done,
this thing is going to react.
It's going to say the same things.
It's going to make the same observations.
It's going to have the same cadence,
and it's going to be indecipherable from you
if you were still alive.
That's easy for us, but if you just,
you know how every time you get an app on your phone
and it asks you to get permission to access your photos?
Yeah.
Well, every person has a whole bunch of selfies
and videos of themselves from their entire lives.
Yes.
If you give the AI permission to get into the digital record that you've already created of yourself, it can do the same thing for you.
It can do the same thing for anyone.
You don't have to be an entertainer.
Yeah.
I mean, we are in the, like...
End times?
We are in the like –
End times? Like you and I with the amount of impromptu content that we've put out into the world, we are in like the top percentile of people like with the amount of quality data to give AI.
data to give AI.
Like,
my,
I guess my kids,
I mean, they don't,
they still don't take a lot of video of themselves.
They're not making podcasts,
you know?
So,
I don't think it's a robust data set
at this point
because
everybody's not a content creator. yeah yeah so but it's the
more data the better the model so it's like just a handful of like christmas present opening videos
or like i'm just trying to think what my kids actually film of themselves. It's actually not that much.
But you could also,
I mean, this technology is going to be like,
okay, do you give this app permission
to listen to monitor you for the next month?
Well, yeah, there you go.
All you got to do is do that.
It's going to be so easy to give it the information
that it needs in order to create the model.
But again, that's just
a voice model it's not like physical mannerisms that's why we like that we're in that percentile
because like it can observe so much about us like it's not scripted it's. There's the physicality of it.
Like, you know, it's... The George Carlin thing did not have any video.
That's kind of a point I'm making.
It didn't have video of Carlin, but it had video.
But it could have because there's plenty of video.
It looked like Dali-generated images.
And some video where, like, the mouth would move.
But it wasn't George Carlin.
It was complimentary visuals that you had something to look at for the
hour but they could they totally could do it with him like put him on a stage and like have the
have his eyebrows behave in the way that they do when he delivers his punchlines it's all just a
matter of time right but i'm i'm just analyzing when does that trickle down to any relative, and I just don't think it's a direct line.
But how do we go through that?
If one of us dies, here's a prediction I'm going to make.
The other one's going to be replaced with AI,
and we're going to keep going in some way.
It will happen, right?
If we don't die at the same time,
and the other person's capable enough to still make content, the other guy will be AI.
Man.
I mean, and it will be indistinguishable to the viewer through the screen.
Now, in the room, in real life, will it be a hologram?
What will it be?
I don't know.
It's like, will you talk to dead me differently, you know,
in the way that you think that you talk to people in the Zoom call
versus in the room differently?
You'll forget, dude.
The thing I think about is, I mean, that scenario is like, yeah,
it's kind of mind-blowing to think that that would even be an option.
Will you hang out with me when we're not doing the podcast?
And you can ask this question about any person
because you think about your parents, right?
So our parents are older, right?
My parents are older than yours.
My parents are almost 80 years old.
Yeah, mine are 72.
So I think about do I want to think about My parents are older than yours. My parents are almost 80 years old. Yeah, mine are 72.
Do I want to think about however many years they have left on this planet in this form to interact with them?
Okay.
And it's just like, that's it.
That's all it needs to be.
And that's what we've always experienced as humans.
There's no need to have them beyond having pictures of them and maybe some video of them.
Do I really need?
Because it's a completely different level of interaction to be like, I'm going to have an AI version.
We talked about this exact same thing because this was a concept like 10 years ago at that website where you could interact with somebody.
But because the technology has gotten so much better now, it's like, oh, I actually think there might be a way that I could interact with somebody, but because the technology has gotten so much better now,
it's like,
right.
Oh,
I actually think there might be a way that I could interact with somebody and I
wouldn't be able to really tell a distinct difference.
And there's a whole movie about this,
uh,
several movies about this,
but there's one.
Oh yeah.
We watched it.
Sundance.
Uh,
yes.
The mom,
the mom was
Had a disease
She had dementia
And so
She had dementia
They like made the AI version of her
Or something
I don't know
And then the
The reveal was that
You were experiencing the
Simulated
The robotic mom
The whole time
The whole time
Man I don't know
It's all I mean I saw some of the I read some of the comments Mom. The whole time. The whole time. Man, I don't know.
It's all, I mean, I saw some of the,
I read some of the comments because this video
that when we, where I ranted and my fears about AI.
And it's just funny to see the reaction.
There's lots of people who are like,
this is a total overreaction.
There's some people that I can't listen to this.
When he starts talking like this, I can't listen to this. When he starts talking like this,
I can't listen or whatever.
I get it, I get it.
Like I told you at the beginning,
it's like, I don't like to talk about it.
It's just, I have to, like, I just had to get it out.
Now, some people are like, yes, this is super scary.
To me, I honestly don't know what to think about it
because when you, like, the scenario that you just
envisioned of the realistic option within, we're probably talking months rather than years, of us having the ability to replace one of us with an AI version.
Without lifting a finger.
I don't even know how to process it. I even think about the fact that we've recounted so many of our life experiences.
We've told so many stories.
So much information is there to even give the proper backstory so that the AI can pull from that.
I think that what's going to happen is that, you know, we talk about your
brain being uploaded, but the next thing, you know, to a hard drive or to a cloud or whatever,
so that when you're dying or if you're, you know, if you're denigrating, if you're going downhill
and you want to start saving your brain or whatever.
The way that it will happen first is like,
all right, Rhett,
sorry to hear about your diagnosis.
Well, it's not you.
It's somebody, let's just say it's...
Thank you.
Let's say it's your brother.
How about just somebody we don't know?
Mr. X.
I'm trying to make it personal.
And I don't have a, you know...
Anyway.
You have a half-brother.
I have a half-brother.
Talk about him.
Why not? You know, I don't...
No, I'm not bringing my half-brother into this.
Well, you're bringing my whole brother into it.
Yeah, because, I mean...
Okay, whatever.
There's somebody that we don't know, but that we care about deeply.
There you go, Mr. X.
All right.
And, um... All right, Mr. X. All right.
We're sending you the package.
We're sending you the box.
You're going to be monitored.
The way that you create voice models now is, all right, just say this script,
and now the AI has heard everything from your voice to then make you say anything.
So let's fill out the rest of the data set.
We're going to watch you do all these things.
You're just going to stand in the box,
and you're going to do this.
You're going to squat.
You're going to turn.
It's like setting up Face ID on a phone.
Right, right.
And you're going to tell your stories. You're going to dump as much information as you can.
Answer these 72 questions,
and it gives us all the information we need
to create a profile of you.
Right.
And the more questions you answer
and the more stories you tell
about your past,
and the more that,
like,
react to this statement,
react to this piece of video,
all, you know,
you get a profile
of their instincts
and everything.
Mm-hmm.
You know,
everything that
we have already given to AI
can be created with, anybody can give it
with just like a little box that can be sent.
That's what I'm saying.
Or it's probably just go to this website, use this webcam.
And you're talking about it.
The more days you do it, the more you're giving yourself to.
You're making yourself immortal.
Yeah. You're talking about it, the more you're giving yourself to... You're making yourself immortal. Yeah.
You're talking about it in the context of immortality
or being able to have this record of yourself after you've gone, right?
Which is very legitimate.
I think the thing that will happen maybe even sooner than that for us
is someone is going to come to us because somebody's already doing this.
They're already thinking about this.
And they're going to come to us because somebody's already doing this. They're already thinking about this. And they're going to be like,
we have a service
where you guys can have
a virtual version of yourselves.
You can put it on your Mythical Society
where there's a chat,
there's a video room
that you can go into
and anybody who logs in
can interact with you guys.
Yeah.
And it will seem almost as good as a real interaction.
And it can be infinitely scaled because it's just a model.
And they're going to be like, do you want to do that?
And then we're going to be faced with, well, how do you make this decision?
How do you make a decision as to whether or not you would let yourself have this avatar of a perfect avatar or close to perfect avatar of
yourself that somebody can interact with? How do you make a decision as to whether or not you would
do that? Because it would be pretty fucking awesome in one sense for people to be able to do
that, right? But then in another sense, it would be like,
well, it's not real, and does it dilute?
I'm not even beginning to evaluate.
I'm just saying.
Can you toggle on or off the romance switch?
Because I don't want to be married to a bunch of people.
I don't want to be in some sort of romantic partnership.
Well, I think that would be a feature.
The version of me.
No, this is not a romance thing.
You're toggling certain things on and off.
Speaking of that. For a price.
Speaking of that, and if honestly,
if the only thing I cared about in the world
was making money, the thing that I would be working on
right now, and again, I'm sure people are working on it.
Everybody dates online.
Everybody uses dating apps to meet people,
or most people do.
And you go on to someone's profile.
And what is their profile?
Their profile is a series of pictures of them,
maybe a video or two,
and some information that they have decided
to curate about themselves for you to make a decision
as to whether or not you will swipe left or right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There there what should be happening right now and what will happen this year
or next is one of these dating sites will be the first to un to roll out the avatar that you
interact with in order to make your decision as to whether or not you want to date this person
yep because why am i going yes why
am i going to spend the time on the profile if i could just have the interaction with the avatar
and people are just going to start making a decision like do i want my avatar to be
how representative of it do i want it to be is is it going to be more fun to be with my avatar
because i held some stuff back or whatever like these these are a lot, there's a lot of ethical questions to ask about this.
Should you even do that? Do you want to opt into this thing?
But if it can make you, if it enhanced, first of all,
if somebody can make money off of it, it will happen. Right.
That's the first thing.
If somebody is willing to pay for it because they think that it's valuable,
like, well, I want to date more people. Yeah. I, I, I'd like,
I'd like this to be a more efficient process.
If it makes it a more efficient process,
if there's value in it, people will pay for it.
So what will happen is then be like, okay,
well, I'm gonna date her avatar.
I'm gonna talk to her avatar a few times
to see if I hit it off with her avatar
and before I decide to waste her time and mine
to like actually date her.
And then I'm like, you know what?
I'm just going to let my avatar date her avatar
and then just spit out,
I'll check in on them and see how much fun they're having.
Yeah.
This is probably a Black Mirror episode.
I haven't seen all of them, but I'm sure it is.
And then it's not going to be just for dating.
It's going to be...
Well, the app's going to tell you
how your avatar has interacted
and whether or not you're a match.
And then in the meantime,
you're dating someone else in the real world
and you're deciding, like,
am I gonna switch over to date the real person
associated with this avatar that my avatar is dating?
And is there a window of time that you have to...
There'll be apps where it's like,
well, you have to agree.
If your avatars are dating,
you can't date anybody in the real world.
You gotta, like, have a window of time window of time when you're open to it.
But because it's all just based on computer power,
literally all you have to do is if you enter yourself into this cohort of people who are all there.
They would all date each other.
The computer runs a simulation of everyone dating everyone
and then immediately spits out what your best matches are.
Yeah, but then your best match is somebody else's
best match is somebody else's best match
and nobody matches up and that's what we learn.
I'd be, I'd...
No, but then people have to make a decision.
Like, they're like...
Because that's not how relationships work.
Your avatar is an A plus match
with the following 12 people.
And then people are like
well, do I agree
with my avatar? Do I agree with what
this computer decided I should think about
this person? All this shit's gonna
happen or it could happen and we just decide
that we don't want it to happen. That's another thing that I see
anytime people talk about this stuff, again
I hate talking about it
but I can't not talk about it because
we never lived in a time where-
It's so accessible.
The science fiction nature of it
and how quickly it can advance
and you can just imagine,
oh, well, actually it would do this
and actually it would do this
is actually something that is happening
and will happen very soon.
And that's why it's just sort of mind-blowing. I'll put it this way.
I think that my mom
will understand
AI
in
three years.
And I'm not saying something bad
about my mom. It's just like,
there's no, it's gonna
penetrate society to the point
that, like, your parents, your grandparents are going to.
Just use it.
They're just going to use it and understand it because it's going to be so much easier than like when, you know, when the, when GUI was invented, you know.
Oh, this, when, when Microsoft Windows came out and then all of a sudden, now so many more people can use computers.
You know, it's so much more accessible than that, the way that it's going to work.
The way that my mom can use her phone and has adapted to that is because it's gotten so easy.
Like, my mom is listening to this conversation.
The interface.
Two years ago, my mom could not listen to Ear Biscuits.
Like as much as I tried, it just didn't work.
And now here she is listening to it.
Hi mom.
And would you want your mom to,
if you didn't have time, again,
it seems cold to even ask this question.
If you didn't have time to talk to your mom, but there was an avatar,
and you found out that your mom, like when you were home.
Well, that's what my mom already does.
When I go home, she's like.
She's been hanging out with you anyway.
I feel so close to you because I see you every day
because there's something new for you every day.
Exactly, it's already happening.
Now that other guy's always there.
Yeah.
I don't have to be there.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
If it's the avatar, and if it's not something that. And it works emotionally. always there. I don't have to be there! You know what I'm saying? The Avatar,
and if it's not something that's...
And it works, emotionally. It helps.
If it's not something for everybody, but it's something just for you,
you can hang out with your son every single day. You can have tea with your son.
Yeah, and I can hang out with my mom. And she's dead.
You're saying we... I mean, don't manifest that, man.
I don't believe in manifestation, I don't think.
I don't either.
I was just saying, yeah, one day, when she's dead,
if I send her the package, I gotta get all her information.
So she can be chilling in the living room.
There's so much money in this, is the one thing that I'm thinking.
When somebody figures it out and they're like,
you can send, in a way that you can get-
Ancestor.com is jizzing their pants right now.
You can get 23andMe,
it's ancestry, by the way, right?
But ancestor is probably,
so you give the gift of 23andMe to family members, right?
And sometimes you regret that when you find out it's not your dad. So you give the gift of 23andMe to family members, right?
And sometimes you regret that when you find out it's not your dad.
But this is going to, in the next 10 years, right?
First of all, if we don't destroy ourselves, yes, you will be able to buy this package that you can send to your relative.
And then they can do this thing or whatever.
And then it's just like they will be here with you forever. And because people want the comfort of the interaction
with the dead relative more than they're willing
to explore the ethical complications,
they're gonna buy it.
Yeah, it's gonna be irresistible.
And there's gonna be so much money in it. It's gonna be irresistible. And there's gonna be so much money in it.
It's gonna be irresistible.
Now, so we sat here and we, so we've talked about,
go ahead and set your reminder for 10 years from now,
2034,
hey Siri, remind me to listen to Ear Biscuits
in January 2024.
Okay, my phone is now trying to respond.
My computer did say that.
I think there's another way to say this.
What date does this come out?
January 22nd.
Okay.
Hey, Siri, remind me in January 2034
to listen to the Ear Biscuits episode from January 22nd, 2024.
Okay, I added that for January 1st, 2034.
Okay, okay.
You added it to mine, too.
He thinks you're me, you know.
Everyone listening is going to.
Yeah, there we go. So we'll see you in another 10 years, y'all.
I mean, we didn't even mean to do this, but we started, basically we're making,
the prediction that we're making is that.
It's just about AI. That's the point.
These AI things are just going to be.
Nothing else matters.
Life will be defined by it. Life will be defined by it.
Life will be defined by it.
Or we will just collectively...
I'm not saying it's...
We do have willpower.
We have the ability to be like,
we don't want life to be defined by it.
We don't have that much willpower.
But you have less power than you realize
because money is involved.
And the people want to make money, man.
But there's good people with money
yeah but people are most people are just subjects of whatever system they're in yeah man you know
i'm saying it's just like you just live according to the system that you're born into you're a
capitalist and you work for money and you spend it because that's the system that dominates the
way that the world works.
It's a weird feeling.
Right?
I have such a weird feeling right now
about the next 10 years.
I wonder what I felt like at the end of the last episode,
like 10 years ago.
It's like, it's not that,
because now I'm like, that was not-
I didn't have a sense of,
I had no existential dread in 2014.
I was just like,
there's some cool shit that's gonna happen.
I mean, now it's-
Now I wake-
We're post-pandemic.
I wake up in existential dread.
And we're pre-AI singularity or whatever.
So it's like, it is a different world, you know?
And I'm feeling that right now,
that like I feel totally different about 10 years from now versus what I felt like 10 years ago.
10 years from now will be way different than 10 years ago is from now, the acceleration of change.
And it's not really constant acceleration of change.
No.
It's spurts, and we are in the midst of a spurt, a punctuated equilibrium.
And what's on the other side of it?
I don't know, man.
You know what, all I know is we're gonna keep doing
the shit that we do.
But it might not be us.
I mean, it's like.
One day it'll just switch.
10 years from now, it won't be us.
We'll be listening to this as long as everybody else.
Season 30 of GMM will be fake and y'all won't even know.
And we'll be on a beach somewhere.
And the beach will be on fire.
Eating a coconut and a taco.
Smile. Just smile.
Whatever we're in it with, just put a smile on your face.
I have a...
And what we'll do is we'll talk about...
You remember how every couple of seasons
we had to come up with what the intro was going to be?
What's the GMM theme song version
of the GMM theme song this year?
What's the new intro?
Right.
Now, again, we're creative people,
and so we may decide,
well, there's joy in creating the intro.
But we'll probably be like,
hey, it's just another intro.
AI, give me 15 different intros.
We'll choose the best one,
and then we'll create something else
that's better than just another intro, right?
Isn't that what will happen?
I don't know.
You're not gonna stop creating.
I don't know, but I'm good.
We're still good.
I have something that is maybe somewhat comforting.
Good.
My rec.
I have found a meditative dub-inspired jazz duo
from Copenhagen.
Your search, your search is over.
Is over.
And I've also think what I found is in 2024,
my favorite genre of music now.
Say it again.
Meditative dub-inspired jazz.
From Copenhagen.
From like Scandinavia area.
And I don't really know what dub-inspired is, but it wasn't what I thought that would be.
It has nothing to do with like dubstep.
It's just really ethereal music
that makes you feel good and is super contemplative.
The way, so the band that I found is Brimmer slash McCoy.
Two guys, Brimmer and McCoy,
who've been making music for about 10 years.
And every single song is pleasant and good.
Instrumental?
All instrumental.
And you can put on like Brimmer, McCoy radio,
and it'll just send you into that world of people
like these guys who make this type of music.
And you can listen for hours and hours and hours,
and it'll just, you'll hours and it's very pleasant.
But what I would tell you to do,
what I will tell you to do,
is just bring out their most recent album,
Natten, N-A-T-T-N, which sounds like it might mean nothing
in whatever language that is, Dutch, I guess.
But sit down
in a quiet room,
pour yourself
a little mug of tea
or coffee
or whatever relaxes you.
And just
don't think about anything.
Don't try to do anything.
Just listen to that album.
Just sit down in a comfortable place
and listen to Not Enough.
Until your son's alarm clock goes off six feet deep in the backyard.
Don't let the existential dread that is enclosing on every wall around me
currently affect you. Just listen to Nottin' and remember that at the heart of it
all, you're still just a human.
You're still just a piece of, you're just a meat bag.
Maybe you wanna send us a voicemail
that makes us all feel good and we'll play it.
We need to make up for what we've done here.
Leave us a voicemail, 1-888-
EarPodOne.
And can I make a quick promise?
Let's hold ourselves back from talking about this
again for a while.
Okay.
Check.
I understand that I'm that guy that many of you don't like because I am that guy.
It's hard for you, I know.
At the party or in your friend group is it's like, guys, this is the shit
you need to be thinking about!
And you don't wanna think about it.
I don't wanna think about it either.
And so I'm going to say, I'll keep thinking about it,
but I'm not gonna keep talking about it.
Until something else really significant happens.
How about that?
Nope.
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
I'm not gonna talk about it for a while.
2024 isn't gonna be the year
we're all Rhett and Link talk about is AI.
Why don't you start right now, by stopping right now?
Because the thing that we're gonna be talking about-
You're doing it right now.
Is we're gonna be creating things.
I'm so excited about the things,
not that AI is gonna be making,
but the things that we are gonna be making.
The things that we're working on right now
that I've never been more excited about what we're creating.
Yeah.
That's what I'm excited about.
There you go.
Peace, love, and happiness.
Hey, Rhett and Link.
This is Noah from Santa Barbara, California.
This one's for Link.
I just wanted to say I took your rec and I got the silicone shower scrubber.
And just like you, it has revolutionized my shower experience i recommended it to my friend and it revolutionized his as well so thank you for that one