Ear Biscuits with Rhett & Link - What Are Our Bad Habits? | Ear Biscuits Ep. 471

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

They say the average time it takes to break a habit is 66 days! In this episode, Rhett & Link talk about their bad habits they’d like to break, infer a little bit about girl code, and come up with s...ome ways to avoid hugging your boss. Plus, we learn the ending to the baby girl debate! Get 15% off plus a free gift for new customers (purchase over $75) by using code EAR at https://huel.com/ear Get free shipping and 365 day returns at http://quince.com/ear To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:27 on your first three orders. Service fees exclusions and terms apply. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. ["Dreams of a New World"] Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Rhett. And I'm Link.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Welcome to the round table of dim lighting, where today we are discussing. Oh, that's gonna hurt a lot of people. Oh, that's gonna hurt a lot of people. All right, fine, we'll do it your way. I was trying to ease him into it. Change it a little bit, but still give the teaser. You know, I'm not even a man of tradition.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I know, that's why I'm like, let's start to change it. But I believe if you change your tradition, it should be done with good reason and in good fashion. I'm a man of principle, not a man of tradition. All right. Principles, I'm all about those. Tradition, bullshit. All right, let's start over. Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong
Starting point is 00:01:24 friends talk about life for a long time. I'm Rhett. And I'm Link. This week at the round table of dim lighting, we're gonna help you figure out how to stop hugging your boss. Yup. It's happening everywhere. And once you start, it's hard to stop, apparently. We gonna help you. We're also gonna get to an update on the Baby Girl competition that I am involved in.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And you are not. Well, you may not know some developments that have happened. I don't, I've heard that we're gonna get an update. Well, there's other developments beyond the ones that you will share. Oh, I'll let you know. Well, Jamie will share. Let's hear it, the update, let's other developments beyond the ones that you will share. Oh. I'll let you know. Well, Jamie will share.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Let's hear it, the update. Let's get to that. Hi, Rhett and Link. I'm Stella. And I'm Katie. And I called a few weeks ago to let you know that Link competed in my college radio station's Baby Girl bracket that we do every single year. He won the very first round. And I'm here to tell you he won the very last
Starting point is 00:02:28 He he won the entire bracket and link. I am I I want to congratulate you and let you know that you are 90.5 FM WUOG Athens baby girl of the year for 2025 Yeah Thank you. We love you Baby girl of the year for 2025. Is this a 20-year-old relation, Ben? Yeah. Thank you. We love you. We love you. I didn't know that. I'd love to know what you think of this, Rhett.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I regret to inform you that you were never even entered into the bracket. I thought for you. I think you're a baby girl. Maybe next year. Next year might be your year. Next year. This isn't about me.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Well, thanks, guys. Bye. So who did I beat? I don't know who you beat fully, but they also left a comment on Spotify saying that you did beat out Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders is a baby girl? I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Roderick Heffley, who I don't know who that is. And then Will W, I'm gonna say, because I can't, I'm gonna butcher the last name and he's a local musician there in Athens. A local musician. Sounds like competition's pretty thin. I out-baby-goed a local musician. Sounds like I should have been in the bracket.
Starting point is 00:03:39 So what do I get? I think you just got it. I think that was it. I think you get the recognition. And now I have it. Maybe if you go to Athens, you can get a free donut or something. Should this be my email closer?
Starting point is 00:03:49 Like the official- Your signature you mean? Baby girl. Your closer, a closer is different than your signature. Wishing you best- That's a closer. From the top baby girl in Athens, Georgia. 2025 baby girl of the year, so-and-so, so-and-so FM,
Starting point is 00:04:08 Athens, Georgia would be how you would probably say that. That's gonna be how I'm introduced for my Ted Talk. Well, wow. I didn't know if I wanted to be nominated, but now I feel kinda good now that I've won. Congratulations. It's quite a swing. I'm a little bit envious. I will say, this was not by my design.
Starting point is 00:04:29 This is anything that I asked for. In fact, as you might imagine, this was something I was asked to do by the younger, more informed people here at Mythical. In order to promote my song to song song song episode two with Lizzie McAlpine, they were like, we want you to do this trend on your personal socials. And if you didn't notice.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I saw you running in slow motion. My personal socials are, I mean, not as inactive as yours, but they are like, yours are completely dead and mine are like an occasional breath. Like you go walk up to it and you but they are like, yours are completely dead and mine are like, an occasional breath, like you go walk up to it and you can kind of like, you feel like you have to put your ear next to it to make sure it's still breathing.
Starting point is 00:05:11 That's my social media presence at this point. So they were like, there was a trend a couple years ago where people would, you know how when they explain things to us, and I consider myself more with it than the average 47-year-old. I have to be, because of what I do for a living. But still, they sometimes explain things to me, and it doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:05:35 So they were like, there was a trend where, and let me show it to you, and they showed me one, and it was a girl getting up and acting like she was going somewhere and she was singing along with a sped up version of Lizzie's song, Seelings. Okay. Which you just did.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And so then I was like, okay, that's what it, why is it that song? They were like, oh, it's just that was, they just, people to use that song, it's what it, why is it that song? They were like, oh, it's just that, people to use that song, it was a thing, it was a trend, it was just doing these two things together. And so then I was like, well, what's, okay, well, what's my take on it? Remember when we used to do all this original social media and we would ask this question?
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yeah. We hated ourselves for a few years. Yeah, we hated that. All those videos are still up on the internet when we were doing original social media videos. And we would, we didn't come up with most of them, but we would then try to like massage them into something that we felt like made sense to us.
Starting point is 00:06:37 So we were like, what's the angle? Like what's the joke? Why are we doing this? And what's our original version of it? So it's not just funny that we did it. Right. But what we did was funny. And it turns out that was really hard to do. And it didn't work.
Starting point is 00:06:49 It didn't work. So I didn't, you know what I decided to do? Not ask any further questions. You just did it. And also not have any angle. Just do the thing. I'm like, okay, they're like, you're gonna wear the Mythical Society blankie thing hoodie. You're gonna get up and you're gonna wear the mythical society blankie thing, hoodie.
Starting point is 00:07:05 You're gonna get up and you're gonna run from one part of the building to out into the parking lot and then back into the studio where you did the Lizzie interview. Okay. So, okay, we did it. That was the second take. The first take took a while for me to land and get in place.
Starting point is 00:07:24 And I was like, okay, I guess, I mean, I did the thing. And they put it up on the internet and basically, apparently, this is being perceived as my first real play for baby girlness. Ha ha ha ha ha! Okay, I was like, yeah, where's this going? Back to baby girl. So many baby, like, people are like, okay, baby girl, like, oh, officially, like, I was like, okay, listen, I made the case.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Athens. I made the principled intellectual case for my baby girlness, which I understand is not baby girl. I understand that's not baby girl. But that's the way that my mind works. That's the way this baby girl's mind works. And so I made the case for not baby girl. But that's the way that my mind works, that's the way this baby girl's mind works. And so I made the case for my baby girlness, which I think is rooted in reality. But then when I just did something based on total instinct and just following the directions of 25 year olds,
Starting point is 00:08:19 apparently I baby girl myself right out there. So maybe I'll be in the, I don't think you can, I don't think the returning champion can actually be in the bracket. What do you the, I don't think you can, I don't think the returning champion can actually be in the bracket. What do you know? I don't think there can be repeats. So I don't think that Link is allowed to be. He can't face this baby girl camp.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Or maybe another city needs to do a baby girl bracket. You've got Athens, Georgia. How about making Georgia where I'm from? Hometown boy comes back, sweeps the baby girl, I'll come home for that. I'll come home for that. No, no you won't. Yeah I would.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Go see my old house? Here's the problem. If you're waiting a year for Athens, then by the time it rolls around again a year from now, baby girl won't be a thing. You better try to get this done in the next month. I don't think baby girl's that much of a flash in the pan. Baby girl going away, it's already fading.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You always assume that anything that's happening on the internet only happens for like a week. Now that I've championed it. I've noticed this about you, you're like, hold on, are we too late to this? And I'm like, well, some things, yeah, but some things, they become part of the cultural vernacular. Baby Girl is not gonna be here forever.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And they don't go away. It ain't gonna be here forever. I mean, Baby Girl's probably been around for more than 12 months already. Mm-mm, it hasn't. I'm the champ, I should know. Oh, you don't know anything, man. Don't even step to me.
Starting point is 00:09:41 So I've been thinking about maybe, I know that Baby girl is not something that can be calculated, but it was so easy to just stand up and run across the parking lot and sing. To a Lizzy song. I didn't even sing the song. I was like, I'm not gonna lip sync
Starting point is 00:10:00 because I'll get it wrong. It's going too fast. I'll let you have a turn if you really want to. You can baby girl it. No, no, no, no. If I'm going baby girl, I want a baby girl on my own two feet. My two little baby girl feet. Okay. All right. But congratulations.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah, I did not know that was what the update was gonna be. I'm flattered, flabbergasted, and still torn. Well, and while we're at it, Link, we might as well just pour it on. Somebody decided that because I had a dancing-focused TikTok or Instagram that you needed one as well. So now you have, what is that one called? Link's Dancing. Link's. Link dancing. Link dancing.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Link dancing, it's a older clip of you when your hair was down. Yeah. And I think that one's from the viral boom. I've seen that dance move. Okay, all right, okay. Oh no, no, no, this is from GMM. This is from how to be attractive or something.
Starting point is 00:11:15 This is the one that they used, okay. Me and my helmet head. You think the same person is making these? Probably. Okay, all right. Maybe not. So you are up to 14,000 followers. Okay. Let's see how I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Let's see where you're at. Rhett dancing. Dancing. You've already passed, he's already passed me a follower? Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha! Really? I mean, you got 8,000?
Starting point is 00:11:44 Hold on a second. And there's so many. I think... Hold on. Did you start before me? This one only has 61 posts, whereas yours has 200. What is happening? I think that's the problem. People are unfollowing that account. Because that's what's happening. 256 posts.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Because they're going too strong. The first one's from three weeks ago on Link dancing, and it has 54,000 likes, which... But the dancing isn't even good. I have better dancing videos out there. Yeah. It's not bad. Strong start. The hips get into it, the butt gets into it.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Okay. And I didn't ask for this. It just happens. Someone says I generally can't tell if this is AI. Huh. It might not be. It might be, I don't know. Okay, so all right, I guess I've now I've lost twice. So if you wanna go and watch Rhett dancing,
Starting point is 00:12:44 which I just think is, you think is definitively a better account, definitely more interesting. I mean, look at what's happening. It's better dancing. I mean, it's- I'm capable of that, but that's not what- It's mesmerizing. I mean, I can't do this anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Yeah. Yeah. Why are you scrolling? They're all the same. I'm looking at the progressive drop-off. People are losing interest. Yeah, so Rhett dancing. Oh God.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Okay. Another thing you can look at on the internet, just add to your list of things to look up, you can go over to the Good Mythical More channel. Yesterday we released a super long, like about half of the Rhett and Link roast. We had our employees and some talented Mythical Beasts employee comedians
Starting point is 00:13:40 like professionally roast us. Yep. And that was a special on the Mythical Society from a while back. We're really proud of the stuff that we're creating and sharing exclusively on the Mythical Society, which is our paid fan club. But we want you to know that type of caliber specials
Starting point is 00:14:02 we have over there, so we uploaded half of that. It is censored. It's uncensored on Mythical Society because everything's uncensored, but on the YouTube channel, we've censored it and we've given you half of it, but it gives you a really good idea of what you might like more of
Starting point is 00:14:18 if you went over to mythicalsociety.com. So check it out on the Good Mythical More channel. ["Good Mythical More channel. Let's hear another. Hi, this is Allie and I just am wondering if you guys have ever had to break a bad habit. I started biting my nails again and it hurt. I don't know why I do this to myself, but any bad habits that you guys are trying to break or have broken. Thank you. Bye.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Well thanks for being vulnerable. You're doing something that you know in your brain is not good for you, but your instincts are telling you, I have to keep doing it. I don't understand myself. What is really bad about nail biting? About for your teeth? Well, first of all, if you start ripping it, you might get too close and that does hurt.
Starting point is 00:15:23 That's horrible. And there is stuff, you know, the common deterrent is showing under a microscope what people have under their fingernails to gross you out. It's like- That doesn't work. It's like sending a wayward child to prison for a few hours.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Yeah, that only, it doesn't work. It doesn't last, they forget about it. You forget about what's under your fingernails. You go back to bite them. And maybe it's ultimately good for you to be- For your immunity? Fighting that stuff off from an immunity standpoint. When I was growing up, let's see,
Starting point is 00:15:55 when I was in like third, fourth grade, I had a really bad habit of biting my fingernails and my papa didn't like it. I don't, again, I don't know why, it's just like, get your fingers out of your mouth, boy. really bad habit of biting my fingernails and my papa didn't like it. Again, I don't know why it's just like, get your fingers out of your mouth, boy. It's like, you know, it's not a becoming habit of a self-controlled young man.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I wasn't given the reasons, but I was given a bribe. If you stop biting your fingernails, I'll buy you that skateboard you want. And I stopped biting my fingernails, I'll bite that skateboard you want. And I stopped biting my fingernails and he bought me the skateboard and the elbow pads and the knee pads. And I would only skateboard at Nana and Papa's house because they had a cement driveway.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Gotta have that. And then I started biting my fingernails again. Right, you got the skateboard. Because I got the skateboard, but I felt horrible. But I didn't feel so bad that I stopped biting my nails because I couldn't. You still do it? Yes, I have it.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And I still do it. You know, the thing that really broke me of it was my teeth moved. Like the actual physical location of how my teeth interact with my nails, it became almost impossible with the way that I bit my nails in a particular way. You lost the ability.
Starting point is 00:17:11 I couldn't do it anymore. But what I would do is, and now I have to cut my nails, I still look around my nails, I still bite that skin around the nails. It's a nasty habit. You keep your nails so short. Like you don't have any finger, any white, you don't show any white. Well, I cut them two days ago, and there's a little habit. You keep your nails so short. Like you don't have any finger, any white. You don't show any white. Well, I cut them two days ago
Starting point is 00:17:27 and there's a little bit of white. No, no, like that's a little bit of white. Like a streak of white. Yeah, if you see some white. I will do that, I don't really do it anymore. It's a nasty habit to bite the skin around your nails, and that will hurt too if you mess it up. I'm sure I have a bunch of them, and I'm sure there are habits that you have noticed before if you watch us.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I think you have to wear gloves. Before you talk about your habit, I'm just saying, my best guess is just wear gloves for like two weeks. Don't allow yourself to do it for two weeks and see if that breaks a habit. How long do they say it takes X amount of days to form a habit, X amount of weeks to form a habit, and Y amount of weeks to break a habit? What if it's fingerless gloves though? Then you got a problem. Jamie, look up how long does it take to break a habit. Well I think it depends on the habit. then you got a problem. Jamie, look up how long does it take to break a habit?
Starting point is 00:18:26 Well, I think it depends. Wear gloves however long that is. But you were saying, you didn't, nothing's coming to mind, but you know you got some nice habits. The one thing that I know that gets on my wife's nerves and you've probably seen me do it, I know you've seen me do it, I actually don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Is sticking my finger in my ear. Oh God, I didn't know you were gonna say that. Yeah. Sticking your finger in your ear? Yeah. I can't say I've ever noticed you doing this. Really? And I hate that you're telling.
Starting point is 00:18:56 So, and it's for a very specific reason. Turn this way? I like the way it feels. Do it to the other ear so I can see. I don't do it to this one as much. But let me see, I want to see how deep you're going. I'll tell you exactly how deep I'm going. I'll tell you exactly what I'm doing. Are you pulling? All right, tell me.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I have... I have weird skin issues. Eczema all over places, right? Okay. And not anything that you usually can see. It's like, it's little subtle things. But like what happens in my ears is I have dry skin in my ears. It's not ear wax, it's dry skin. And what will happen is,
Starting point is 00:19:39 is like if I don't get it out, it'll like, sometimes it'll like migrate and you'll see it and it might even fall out, like fall onto my shoulder, which is like a horror. Like, oh god! Something fell out of his ear and it's on his shoulder, like... Ear dandruff. The idea of that happening is so gross to me that what I do is I will reach in and out, and it comes in waves. I don't have any right now. I guess it's like seasonal or whatever. Yeah. And I'll feel there's like dry skin in there
Starting point is 00:20:08 and I don't have to use my finger now, I literally just push on it and pull out and then there'll be like dry skin on my finger that I just sort of like put into the wind. I test the wind direction with that sometimes. You know, I'm golfing. Have you ever tasted it? No. Good. the wind direction with that sometimes. It's much better. You know, I'm golfing. Have you ever tasted it?
Starting point is 00:20:26 No. Good. And so, Jessie hates this, because I'll do it when we're going to something where I really don't want dry skin coming out of my ears. Yeah? And well, are you in the bathroom or are you in the car? I'm driving usually.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Oh. Oh yeah, and she's on that side. She's on your passenger side. She's like, please don't do that. Why do you only do it to the passenger side here? This one's worse. Oh really? This one's worse. Maybe you've made it worse.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Well, I don't know the science behind it. I'm just saying that, I can't believe you haven't seen me do this. I didn't know that's what you're doing. I thought maybe, cause that's the other side for me. I didn't know that's what you're doing. I thought maybe, cause that's the other side from me. See, I'm the driver, you're the passenger. No, I mean I do it in all life, all throughout life.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I'll do that, I'm just kinda quick, just check. Quick check. Now, I know if it does feel good to like, I'll grab inside of my ears, not in the hole, but in the low part, and I'll just start pulling down and pulling out, like doing a massage. Like pulling your ears out, pulling your ears down, pulling them back, going in a circle. Like, I'll do that on the way to a party.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Self-driving. But then I won't, like, scatter anything. Well, if you don't have anything, there's nothing to scatter. Yeah, that's not a problem. I mean, when I was a kid, dude, I don't know if it was eczema, but I had a horrendous problem behind the ear where it would crack open.
Starting point is 00:21:57 That was a fungus. Ooh, that was bad. We got it taken care of. It's probably a vitamin deficiency or something. It was absolutely painful. It was like my ear was just like rotting off of my skull. I think it is fungal or it's a vit, like literally it might be a vitamin deficiency.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Cause you know how when you get like the corner of your mouth will sometimes get like, feel like it's torn? Yeah. That's a vitamin deficiency. What vitamin? I can't remember, but I guess I haven't had to worry about it in a while.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I've been doing AG1, not a sponsor right now. Yeah, they've been in past. But yeah, it's a vitamin deficiency. Yeah, you don't want anything in the corner of your mouth. You don't want anything inside of your ear that people can see. You don't want something on your shoulders. I think you're doing a good thing.
Starting point is 00:22:45 The other bad habit. You can just do it at home. The other bad habit, and this is something that, I mean, we don't watch a lot of the stuff that we make back, but we both say, I say, I know, like a lot. Everyone, everyone says like a lot now, right? Like everyone that, see, like everyone that we know and everyone that we're around says like a lot
Starting point is 00:23:11 and they're talking. And if I do happen to listen to myself talk, that's a bad habit that gets on my nerves. Do I do that? I don't hear it. I'm curious if I do that. I'm not thinking about it, but I don't think about it when I hear't hear it. I'm curious if I'm not thinking about it, so, but I don't think about it when I hear other people talk.
Starting point is 00:23:28 What is the habit that we discovered as we're shooting WonderHole season two? I mean, we're very, yes, we're very focused on, well, there's no lines, there's no scripting. Ever. There's an outline. So... There's a bulleted outline. We are having a moment-to-moment reactionary, improvisational, outlined conversation. And we both have this habit, and we've given it to each other and reinforced it,
Starting point is 00:24:03 and Ben, our director, has to point it out. And it's kind of frustrating when he points out that we've done it, because we have to start over. But he was like, listen, the only reason I'm doing this is because this is a habit and it's something you guys don't need to be doing. We will start sentences with I mean, and we don't do it.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I don't think we do it. I mean, maybe we do. Maybe we do it a lot. I mean, I think we do it. Maybe we do. I think it always has, so far, in my observation, it's happened, there's a lot of intense conversations
Starting point is 00:24:41 and situations in Wonder Hole, where we're like solving a problem and that's when it happens. I think I know why. I think we have a habit of filling space with something to signify, I'm about to say something. I may not know what it is fully. Because we have to operate as a duo.
Starting point is 00:25:08 We operate as a duo so much that we've used the same signal. I'm about to talk. I mean, now I'm gonna say something that I mean. I mean is like, you know, which we also say quite a bit. I know I say, you know. I say right. We. I say, right. We used to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:28 We used to start sentences with, okay. Especially when we were shooting like short form stuff and I just said like too. I think you'd probably say it a lot, but everyone I know uses like a lot. And so it is just something that happens and you don't even think about it. But if we think about it for two weeks,
Starting point is 00:25:48 I bet you we can eradicate it. So I was watching this speech expert talk on that diary of a CEO podcast. And he was talking about these habits. Okay. Saying, you know, and like, and um, and he said, when you think that you're about to say one of these things, one of these filler words, just pause.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I think one of the things that is difficult for us to do is that a pause ends up being an opportunity for the other guy to speak. Exactly. But it was interesting because I did that, the episode of Within Reason with Alex O'Connor, we recorded it in here. And we don't do a lot of just one of us.
Starting point is 00:26:40 You're the only one there to answer a question. I did a lot of slow talking and a lot of pausing in that, mostly because I'm talking about something that I know people are going to take every word that I say and use it against me. Which they are. So I try to be a little bit more calculated in what I say and even then, because I'm not a professional communicator
Starting point is 00:27:01 about those things, I end up saying things. I'm like, that didn't come out right. But there was much more pausing in my speech. And when he asked me a question, I would wait that long before I started speaking. I'm trying to do that just in interpersonal conversations so I don't say um and like and you know so often. Because I think that I might be able
Starting point is 00:27:25 to completely eradicate them from my speech. You know? And I'm trying to give you space to finish your thought. And because our conversations are not scripted and we don't know exactly, we do know somewhat what the other person is gonna say. Like the big meaty pieces, like the skeleton of a scene for Wonderhole is scripted. When I say scripted, outlined, planned.
Starting point is 00:27:57 But the specific words that are gonna come out of our mouths and the specific cadence and whether or not we respond to something that the other guy says. All up for grabs. It changes each take by design. I don't think it's been a problem. The I mean thing has been a problem, but as soon as he tells us, I think we're able to stop.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Not completely. Sometimes we do it right on the next take. Yes. But. Now I'm afraid to talk. I think it's fine to just talk. We already talk pretty slow from the south. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yep. I don't have any other habits though. Caffeine. Caffeine's not a habit. The thing that I've noticed though is I'm looking for reasons to introduce caffeine earlier. This year, it's gotten, it's gotten, it's started to spread.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Do you mean, you seem to drink caffeine for the past couple of weeks. For the purpose of not being tired. Yeah. Which I think is, yeah, I think it's probably a sign of something else that's going on. I've gotten a lot of stuff checked out.
Starting point is 00:29:23 No, I'm not saying anything serious. I'm just saying if you're tired in the afternoon, there's probably something, there's something else you could do besides caffeine that would make you not be tired in the afternoon. But I'm hooked on it. Yeah, you would have to go through a hellish process of getting off of it.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And I don't think you have to. Well. I don't think you necessarily should. It's two o'clock. I'm just't think you have to. Well. I don't think you necessarily should. It's two o'clock. I'm just saying if you have to have caffeine. At noon I drink caffeine, which I used to not do. I used to drink one in the morning and then I would drink one at 2.30 or three.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Then I started drinking them over lunch. And you drink one at the end of the day now? No. Like four o'clock sometimes. I do that if it's Friday, if I'm gonna have a late night. I drink one at lunch. And you drink one at the end of the day now? No. Like four o'clock sometimes. I do that if it's Friday. If I'm gonna have a late night. Okay. But I don't do that on like a school night.
Starting point is 00:30:14 But I got in that middle one over lunch and now here it is two o'clock and my head, my head is hurting a little bit. And I can tell it's that it wants the caffeine earlier. It wants it right now. But you don't feel like you're about to fall asleep. No. All I feel is the tinge of the headache. How much sleep did you get last night?
Starting point is 00:30:41 I don't have my... I don't do that anymore. I lost my watch and my ring doesn't charge anymore. Get a new one. Okay, what time did you go to bed last night? Nine o'clock, 9.30. Woke up at 6.30. Is that nine hours? I woke up at six. Nine to six is-
Starting point is 00:31:04 That's nine hours of sleep, right? Six-thirty to nine-thirty? I'm definitely in bed for nine hours. But you go to sleep almost instantaneously. Yeah, I woke up once in the night. I just crave the caffeine. And like... I'm not sleepy. Look at me, look at how awake I am.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Raaah! Last night I got six hours and 23 minutes of sleep. And I like... I was in bed for seven hours. I like having it. It's so weird because it's virtually tasteless. Not completely, as we've proven on Good Mythical Morning, but virtually. But those drinks that I have, and it's just that yerba mate and then hot coffee.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I'm just saying that if you're getting nine hours of sleep, you shouldn't be getting tired in the afternoon. Getting a headache is a different thing. I don't know if I'm getting tired. I'm getting a hankering. You're just saying you're addicted and you want it. Yeah, I have a bad habit. I gotta slow my roll a little.
Starting point is 00:32:06 But your sources of caffeine are not bad for you. Coffee's good for you. Mate. Mate's probably good for you. It's probably got like polyphenols in it and stuff. Yeah, yeah, all right, so keep on keeping on. All right. As long as you're able to sleep.
Starting point is 00:32:23 It also says there's a range of 18 to 254 days to break a habit, but the average is 66 days. 66, you gotta wear gloves for 66 days. They also have like polish that's supposed to taste really bad. I was gonna say that's probably better than gloves. You don't wanna be the gloved person. You could just have fingertip gloves.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Instead of fingerless, fingertip-less gloves. Right, right. The opposite. The symbols. Whatever they do with the fingertips for the fingerless gloves, you need to round those up. Do they sell those separate? Gloveless fingers.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Let's listen to another voicemail. Hi, I'm Eddie Link. Gloveless fingers. Let's listen to another voicemail. Hi ReadyLink. My name is Ashley and I have a question. So my ex-boyfriend's new girlfriend texted me asking me why we broke up. And he, you know, I broke up with him for obvious reasons he was a very bad person he's also a big cheater so do I tell her do I not tell her drive in texture I have a new boyfriend we're engaged to my fiance and I don't think you would be comfortable with it. So what do I do? Thank you
Starting point is 00:33:49 This is girl code shit, man. You gotta tell her. Oh You know about the girl code. I know enough to know that yes You gots to tell her it seems obvious to me. I mean Yeah, Jenna's not here cuz she's at the optometrist. She got something in her eye this morning. Couldn't get it out. She rolls into our office and she's got a dag patch over her eye, felt sorry for her.
Starting point is 00:34:14 A self-made patch. So. She's a MacGyver. We'll keep you posted on what she digs out. Maybe it's worth something. Jamie, school us on the girl code of this. I mean, if this was me and someone was like, hey, why did you break up?
Starting point is 00:34:29 She probably already thinks that her boyfriend's cheating on her. She's like, I already think this, but I want to see. And he probably painted the ex as like, oh, she's crazy. The guys do that all the time. So you got to tell her. Yeah, and it would be a different situation if it was unprompted.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yes. So if somebody is, I don't know the girl code, I'm just inferring some things here, but this is my understanding of it as it applies to this situation. If your ex-boyfriend who's a bad dude, in your estimation, starts dating someone new new and you don't know this person, there is no obligation, you need to move on.
Starting point is 00:35:11 There's no obligation for you to get yourself in that business. But if this girl calls you and asks you why you broke up, you don't have to go into all the dirty details, but you know why she's calling and asking you that? So you have to tell her the pertinent information. Yeah. I mean, let's use something that's not a relationship situation.
Starting point is 00:35:36 To me, it made me think of job references. Yeah. Oh, you want to work with me now, huh? Well, let me see your references. I gotta talk to who you worked with before. That's the one thing that, not the one thing, but that's a big thing that we've learned, is that no matter how good you feel about somebody when you interview them,
Starting point is 00:35:57 always ask and follow through on the references. You have to. You have to. You got to do that work as an employer, as a big boss. And rarely are you going to, in my experience, and we thankfully don't have to do a lot of this ourselves anymore, but in my experience,
Starting point is 00:36:19 it's not that you're going to call a former employer and get a bad reference. Cause they're gonna give out names to people who they think will give them good references. Right, yeah. But what's more telling is the references that you don't get that they don't provide. Yeah, the last person you worked for?
Starting point is 00:36:41 The last person that they worked for. Why is that not a reference? And then they might have to explain that. It's like, well, it ended poorly. We had a difference of opinion and this is the kind of thing that they might say about me or whatever, but that's all part of the job history.
Starting point is 00:36:53 So I don't know. So this would be the equivalent situation would be someone calling us and saying, why did you fire this person? someone calling us and saying, why did you fire this person? I think there's legal issues with that. So we don't, we typically don't do, we don't do that. We don't-
Starting point is 00:37:15 Bad mouth somebody? Yeah, we don't do that. Well, we certainly do what's legal, only. Right. Because we personally don't do it. There's a lot of very specific hoops that you have to jump through. We've invested in HR and people.
Starting point is 00:37:30 So this isn't a legal issue in the relational thing. This is, again, it's just the girl code. Now, her thinking her fiance is not going to like this. Is that what she said? That's what she said. She did, but yeah. Oh, I thought that she said that her ex is not gonna like it. I was like, oh, of course she's not gonna like it. No, her fiance.
Starting point is 00:37:55 She doesn't think her fiance would like, what exactly? I think you need to have a conversation there. Well, okay. Let's give an amendment to the girl code that we're just making up on the spot. If you think it's gonna create, it's gonna draw you into a drama
Starting point is 00:38:14 that it shouldn't be a part of your life anymore, don't say anything. Because if all of a sudden he's gonna start texting you, and what'd you say about me, and all of a sudden now you gotta deal with his and what'd you say about me and all of a sudden now you gotta deal with his ass again? Right. It's not worth your time. She made the decision to date this guy.
Starting point is 00:38:30 She might have to learn things a hard way. But I'm just saying if in a moment of transparency and honesty someone's like, hey, why'd you break up with this guy? It's like, well, he's an asshole and he cheated on me. Yeah. Or you could say, I think you already know everything that you're asking.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Oh, that's even better. And that's just a sign, but it's not, I didn't say anything. I didn't give any information. I think you need to tell it to your fiance before you do anything. I think that's a good habit that goes both ways in a committed marriage is,
Starting point is 00:39:05 if you think someone's gonna be a- Anything of that nature. Yeah, of that nature, it's a good habit to talk about it. Work together as a team. Work together, this is a good team building exercise for you. You got very little at stake unless something happens, like what Rhett's talking about,
Starting point is 00:39:19 you get pulled into drama, which is something to think about. It can happen. That's definitely probably what the fiance's problem is. They're like, you don't want to invite that back in. I have a feeling, and I don't know, this is an assumption, I have a feeling that if this guy was such a douchebag that she probably blocked him.
Starting point is 00:39:35 So at least maybe she's already shut out the drama from that end. Yeah, he can't get in touch. But how did the ex get the number, is the other thing. She said she texted me. That's also weird. Yeah. She went out of her way to find the number, is the other thing. She texted me, that's also weird. Yeah. She went out of her way to find the number,
Starting point is 00:39:47 which means she might be in a dire situation. There's something going on there. Right, she's finding it on his phone, and then tapping it into her phone. Tapping it right in. Tapping it, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. I don't know, I think there might need to be some sort of app to take care of this.
Starting point is 00:40:02 They have it for professors. You know, if you're a college student signing up for classes, you can look up all the- A review of a boyfriend? Of the professors. No, I know that. I'm moving to what you're suggesting. You're one step ahead of me in the point
Starting point is 00:40:18 that I was making, which is yes. When you break up with somebody, yeah. This sounds like a social, what do they call that system in China where there's like a social currency kind of thing and if you get a certain number of demerits, you can't travel and stuff. Ooh, I mean people do.
Starting point is 00:40:37 That's a government thing, we're not talking about that. You know, I was trying it on for size, but these type of apps I think are problematic. Oh, this is amazing. It's basically how Facebook started, right? This made me completely remember something that I would have never remembered. Okay. That's the beauty of Ear Biscuits. When I was in Peru, and this was my last day when I was supposed to be on the plane
Starting point is 00:41:00 getting to LAX, but then we had to stay an extra night. I get on the shuttle from the airport with a guy and he knew who I was and had watched, he wasn't like a huge mythical beast, but he knew who I was. And so we were talking and I was asking him what he did. And he said, I'm a photographer. And my specialty is dating profile pics. What?
Starting point is 00:41:32 And he lives in Austin and I was like, this totally makes sense that this is a thing. At first I thought maybe he was trolling me, but then I was like, no, he's not trolling me. This is a real thing. He, his clients are, first of all, if you're single and you use the apps to date, which is most single people. Yeah, your photo game's gotta be strong.
Starting point is 00:41:56 This is how people make all their decisions about you. You're gonna trust your dumbass friend who doesn't even know how to do right composition or are you gonna do all selfies? No. When you can get a professional photographer. But he's gotta be good at taking a photo that doesn't look professional.
Starting point is 00:42:13 That doesn't look like a portrait, exactly. So he basically said he has a meeting with someone and he tries to figure out who they are and what he can kind of bring out of them in a way that would be compelling and then does a photo shoot with them. And so, yeah, I didn't see any of the pictures because I didn't want to ask too many probing questions.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I wonder if he would just do it on a phone. He might, that's the thing, I don't know. But. Like not a high quality camera. Well, every camera is high quality now. Yeah, but you kind of want to make it seem like. You don't want it to look like glamour shots or like your graduation photo.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Candid. But you want to, like, what do you want to capture? Like, what is the vibe that you want people to take from these photos? And it's better for somebody who knows what they're doing to do that for you probably than yourself. Yeah, they do that for Airbnbs and for real estate. So, and again, Airbnbs, great example
Starting point is 00:43:12 of where the pictures plus the reviews are how you make the decision. I just don't think we can start treating people like Airbnbs though, in restaurants, because if someone breaks up with you, we're married. If someone breaks up with you, by default you get a low star rating.
Starting point is 00:43:33 You know what I'm saying? If it's still five stars, you're still in the relationship. Right. So you're gonna rely on someone's ex's opinion. We just broke up five stars. You're gonna rely on someone's ex's opinion. That just broke up five stars. You're gonna rely on someone X's opinion. That's why this doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:43:48 It doesn't work, I'll be the first to say it. And now you might be saying, okay, but we're not looking for a quantitative number, you know, a number for the rating of this person, but is there a qualitative thing? And I just think that that's what. That's what your gut is for. Right, you gotta trust your gut a little bit here.
Starting point is 00:44:09 And the time that you spend with them, however that works now, I guess you go to a coffee shop- Actions speak louder than words. And you figure out if you're gonna go somewhere else after that. Wow. There's also Facebook pages that mostly women have where they, if like a guy is known to be a cheater
Starting point is 00:44:23 or bad news- Right, that makes news, they like put that up there. And the chicks will be like, a lot of them aren't called, are we dating the same guy? And it'll look, people will find out like, oh yeah, this guy's dating like five people right now. Yeah, yep. On Facebook. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:47:29 But also, remember to blink. Smile. But not too much. That's weird. What if you aren't any good at your job? What if they demote you instead? Okay. Don't be silly. You're smart. You're driven. You're gonna be late if you keep talking to the mirror.
Starting point is 00:47:43 This promotion is yours. Go get them. Starbucks. It's never just coffee. Let's get to the other boss one. I was talking about hiring and being a boss. Hi, Rhett and Link. My name's Mary.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I need help. I am in a situation, a professional situation that my boss and I, the very first time I met him, I accidentally hugged him. I don't know why. I'm not really a big hugger. It just happened. And now, every time I see him, we hug and I can't think it stopped. I don't know what to do. How do I politely say that I don't really want to hug him anymore or do, how do I go about this? I don't know. Please help. Thanks. Oh man, I would like to ask a follow-up question because I'm reading into this that now he's expecting a hug and he's initiating
Starting point is 00:48:55 the hugs each time. Like he's showing up at the top of the meeting. Like he's coming up and he obviously looks like he's ready for one versus. I'm ready for one. Because if it's the simpler version of this, which is you can't help but hug him, yes you can. No, it's mutual, you're right, it's mutual.
Starting point is 00:49:14 You cannot hug someone. It's not hard to, listen, coming from me, it's not hard to not hug somebody, trust me. I got friends who are huggers, and I kinda just wait for them. I'm like, oh, they want a hug now. Yeah, you're not a hugger. I'm just not a hugger. It's just not my thing.
Starting point is 00:49:29 But so, if you do not reciprocate a hug, I can tell you from personal experience, if you don't initiate, then it won't happen. But they're both initiated. It sounds like she initiated and now, and it doesn't necessarily sound like there's anything inappropriate happening. Yeah. A workplace hug is,
Starting point is 00:49:54 I mean we don't do it around here. Yeah, it's not efficient. And it's not necessary. It's a little, I mean, I feel for you because you probably hugged your boss because it was just the first meeting of somebody that you wanted to think highly of you. So, because you're not a hugger, you might have gone into hug mode just for the psychology of it. Like, not even knowing.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I also wanna know what kind of job it is. Yeah, I know. Are they, you know, what's a difficult place to hug? Well, it sounds like this might be an easy place to hug. That's what I'm trying to think of. Where are places that you would hug somebody? Here's what you need to do. You need to always be carrying stuff. I'm talking about a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:42 That's a good one. You do that for 66 days? Yep, always be carrying a lot of stuff. That's a good one. You do that for 66 days? Yep, always be carrying a couple of books. Habit will be broken. You're always carrying stuff. Yeah, both hands, like firewood. Even if it's just a laptop, just go in holding it tight on both sides,
Starting point is 00:51:01 like you're really trying to protect it. You don't wanna burden yourself. You don't necessarily need to just hurt your back over this. Well, it'll be not gonna be no, I'm doing the firewood challenge for the next six days. You know, you can get a stack of books from like Marshall's that's just empty.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Oh, decor books. It's just decor books. It's just they're all empty and it's actually just a container to put stuff in. Yeah, and there's like a spec. Carry one of those around. And it's like, she's always got these books and she looks like she's having no trouble at all
Starting point is 00:51:26 carrying them. She's strong, she's studious, but she's not a hugger anymore. And when you sit down, you keep the books in your lap. So he doesn't sit on your lap. I don't think that's a thing probably that's happening. Is he sitting on your lap? Because you need to break that too.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Because you said, I don't know what to say. Nothing. Do not say anything. Don't do this. Don't talk to your boss about the hug. Just stop doing it. But you're gonna have to compensate by being more friendly. So that he doesn't think anything of it. That sounds sexist. Oh. Telling a woman to be friendlier? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I didn't mean it that way, but I'll retract it. I don't think you have to compensate. I think that a hug is out of- He's used to hugging. A hug in the workplace, it's not completely out of bounds, but it's not expected. It's not normal. It's not normal. What's normal is not hugging.
Starting point is 00:52:28 So let's just take this back to a normal place. It's not offensive. Whenever you go into a room, find a seat quick. Be the first in the room and you're seated. That's another thing. Because you got the firewood, you need to, you're tired. Cause the thing you don't want to do, if it's, if what you're thinking is maybe transitioning
Starting point is 00:52:50 slowly out of this, you can't do that. What about a sling? That's too inconvenient. Yeah, don't, don't, don't move to half hugs. Don't move to side hugs and don't try to be like, well, now we're going to replace this with a handshake because that's weird. You're going to shake his hand every time he shows up?
Starting point is 00:53:05 No. You know? We don't touch, the only time we touch people around here is when it's part of a bit. Yeah. Yeah. There's no touching. I mean, I appreciate the fact that you acknowledge
Starting point is 00:53:20 that you got yourself into this mess. Yeah. And it's up to you to get yourself out. You're not talking to your boss about it. If. And you know what? You might get stronger as a result of carrying all that firewood.
Starting point is 00:53:36 These are great ideas. I love the carrying an idea, carrying something an idea. But. Straight jacket. If you don't want to do something that's too disruptive, I think it sounds like you might, maybe you wear a brassiere, I don't know if you do.
Starting point is 00:53:56 And what you're gonna do is you're going to take a, some kind, I don't know, someone's gonna have to engineer this. You want something like a needle, like something hard. A spike? A little spike. A brassiere spike? You put it and you just sit it,
Starting point is 00:54:15 I don't know how it would work, we can figure it out. And so that when he hugs you, there's a, he gets pricked. You're pricking his sternum. And first he's gonna think, did I just imagine that? Two or three more times than getting pricked
Starting point is 00:54:31 every time he hugs you. Yeah, every time going a little deeper. If you wanted to be completely passive, I'm just saying hurt him a little bit when he hugs you. That's just another avenue. I just think of those like, You gotta watch it for yourself though. The death scenes where like two main characters
Starting point is 00:54:49 are struggling and you can tell that it's the last scene and all of a sudden you see the look on one guy's face and he's like, oh my gosh, he looks like he's in pain and then the person leans in more and you realize that like, He's holding a knife? He's holding a knife and he's just stabbing him. Those are the best scenes.
Starting point is 00:55:06 You're saying just hug your boss and just, ugh. Well, no, it's more just... Just kill him. It's just more, he doesn't even know it at first until he finds a little... Kill that prick! He finds a little blood spot on his shirt, and he's like, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:55:20 What the hell, I got poked somewhere. Miss Sterna. It's every time she comes in. Now you gotta make sure you take it off before you hug friends. Yeah, I don't think you need to be hugging anybody because that's a problem for you. Man.
Starting point is 00:55:38 That's tough. I think we solved it though. Yep, next. Hi boys, specifically Rhett this time, even though Link, love you buddy. It's Adele from Maine. I feel like I always say my name and it sounds weird, Adele. Anyway, Rhett, I was wondering about the toe socks, because I just watched that episode of more where your your toesies came out in the form of white socks and Stevie wanted to hear more but Link did not so I'm just curious I don't know I've watched a lot
Starting point is 00:56:16 of your guys content and I haven't seen this before or heard your rant or positive promotion for toe socks so please please share, thank you, love you guys, bye. You sure you wanna know? You sure you want me to go there, Adele? You sure you want me to open this can? Make it quick. Oh, that's gonna be hard to do. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Okay, I will make it quick, and then I'm gonna talk to you about a real issue that I'm experiencing right now that goes well beyond toe socks. Oh, okay. I don't remember how this started but I think it may have started with our friend Mike who was talking about shoes and toe spread and zero drop and all this stuff, right? There's a way, people think about feet a lot. People have thoughts about feet, shoes.
Starting point is 00:57:12 If your foot is messed up, that's a big problem. And it's not just that. I started looking into these barefoot shoes. A barefoot shoe is essentially a shoe that has, there's three characteristics that I could think of off the top of my head. The first is zero drop, meaning that there's no elevation to your heel. Almost every shoe that you would wear in modern society, your heel is a little bit further off the ground, or sometimes a lot further off the ground than your toes. So you're a little bit inclined.
Starting point is 00:57:46 So this is not inclined. They're completely straight, the way that your foot has adapted to the environment to walk around. The second thing is there's very little support. There's enough to keep a rock from going into your skin, but you feel the ground in the way that's sort of representative of the way it would
Starting point is 00:58:05 have been if you're walking around barefoot. And then the third thing is your toe box and your shoe is spread out so your toes can be naturally spread out. So if you look at any indigenous culture that walks around barefoot all the time, their feet are much stronger, their toes are much wider, and they're like using their feet in the way that our feet evolved in these natural environments. And they're strong. They can grab shit with their feet. You know, they can do interesting things with their toes. But in most, like, civilized
Starting point is 00:58:38 culture, our feet are like shoved into this narrow toe box, and we don't use them, and they basically become dumb. You probably, if you're listening, have dumb toes and you can't do individual things with your toes. Maybe not, maybe not. And you might say, well what's the problem with all this? Well, the problem with this can be that this is the place where your body makes contact with the ground and every single thing that happens and every single single shock, and every single, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:08 mechanical thing that's happening at your feet propagates itself through your entire system. And if you're somebody like me, who is six foot seven, getting older, already has back problems, already has knee problems, you can exacerbate that because you're just, even though you might have like a bunch of cushion on your feet, you're banging around,
Starting point is 00:59:27 you're landing on your heels, you're doing all this stuff and you're sending these shockwaves basically through your body. So I was like, interesting, you know me, I always have something that I wanna be interested in and explore, so I got some of these barefoot shoes and I got them, I got like a pair of boots, I got a pair of workout shoes, I got a pair of hiking shoes,
Starting point is 00:59:50 because you kind of have to begin to make the transition to these barefoot shoes. And I'm happy to report that my back hasn't hurt in like two and a half months, maybe three months. I used to wake up every single morning. Now I'm in pretty good shape now, and my back's been in pretty good shape for years
Starting point is 01:00:12 ever since I have done all these exercises and I work on my, I do all the exercises for it, maintain flexibility, but I still would wake up every morning with my back hurting, and then I'd be like, oh gosh, I gotta go do my thing. And then the foot change? Within a week. Really?
Starting point is 01:00:29 Within a week. And this could just be total coincidence, but it doesn't feel like it. Also, I've been having knee issues. You know, I tore a ligament skiing a couple years ago and I've got some weird things that happened with my other knee. That has gone away.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I had tendonitis in one of my knees when I would hike and it would get really, really bad like in my patella. Gone. Yeah. I have that right now. Because what's happening is I'm doing, you naturally, when you wear these shoes, you do what's called a mid-foot strike. The number of YouTube videos about this is just phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:01:02 I just love the internet. And the guys who actually care about this are like nerding out right now, which is a very small percentage of the population. But here, I'm gonna do it. But you end up doing this mid-foot strike instead of this like completely like mindless heel strike, right, which is not how you're supposed to walk.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And you just end up walking different everywhere you go, and then your toes begin to spread because they've got room. And this helps with balance and all of a sudden you've got more balance when you're barefoot. I mean, I'm a tall man. You start getting older, falling down is like one of the leading causes of death when you get older because you lose balance, you fall down, you break your hip, then you die, you know, it's like over a certain age, you fall down and break your hip, you die. And so I'm just thinking about all this back and all this. Here's the main part, okay, so in the toe socks,
Starting point is 01:01:55 so I was talking to Mike about this and he basically was like, wait till you try toe socks. Because theoretically, if your toes are moving independently of one another, you're experiencing even more spread and even more, because I got a toe spreader that I wear when I'm watching TV, like getting the toes spread out. Like for a pedicure.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Yeah, exactly. And it begins to like, your pinky toe starts waking up and it's like, oh, I'm okay, little piggy is going to the market, you know, like he's ready. And so I started doing this and I have experienced this pretty, this transform. And when I was at Machu Picchu,
Starting point is 01:02:32 I wore barefoot hiking shoes the whole day, hiking. And my feet feel great. Like your feet hurt a little bit at the end of the day in like a, I've been walking type way, but your back and your knees don't. So I'll take that any day. And what is the, what's the brand name you're buying from? Cause. Multiple.
Starting point is 01:02:52 So there's Veeba, which is V-I-B-A-E, and they have like a pop-up shop here in LA. They got one in Malibu too. And it's technically not barefoot, like there's a little bit more support in the back, but like there's a toe spread and I've got a couple pairs, I've got like a pair of tennis shoes from them and a couple of pair of like boot type things.
Starting point is 01:03:17 But then there's the one that everybody who knows about this knows about, which is Vivo barefoot, which is, they probably sell more of these than anybody. And I got my hiking shoes from them and they're great. I bought shoes from Limbs. Limbs, so I took Limbs to Peru. I'm a fan of Limbs. Limbs are wide toe box. L-E-M-S.
Starting point is 01:03:36 So they're wide toe box, zero drop, more support than Vivo Barefoot for sure. They're not technically a Barefoot shoe, but they're way better than your typical walking around shoe. That was my day-to-day walking around shoe in Peru. So anyway, I got the toe socks for the toe spread, but I am backing off of them because I don't, I actually, in my estimation over the past month,
Starting point is 01:04:03 they haven't made a difference. The only difference that they've made is it takes longer to get my damn socks on. Yeah. Which is annoying. And so I'm backing off of that. And then when people have to see it. It's a little. But here's the real problem.
Starting point is 01:04:18 This is the problem. There's a reason that they make shoes that are a little bit elevated in the back and the toes are a little bit pointed because they look better. Like we have decided as a human race that these shoes look better and a shoe that looks more like a foot,
Starting point is 01:04:34 I mean, God forbid the ones with the actual toes in the actual, I'm not gonna do that, don't worry. I'm not gonna be the guy who wears the foot glove. Yeah. But the issue is, and I tried to do this, I got a pair, I wore them to that kickback a few weeks ago. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:55 At the Creative House. Yes. Because I was like, I'm gonna be amongst friends, and I've got these black boots that are like lace-up boots, and the sole is literally this thin, like three millimeters and it's just flat all the way across, so there's nothing on the bottom. And then they're leather and they're shaped like your foot,
Starting point is 01:05:14 so they're kind of bulbous. And I put them on and I was like, these look like clown shoes. Ha ha ha ha. I know they look like clown shoes, but maybe I can pull it off. Maybe I can begin to be a part of the trend that makes function becomes the form.
Starting point is 01:05:30 You're my friends. I was trying it in a friendly setting. And so I wore them and I kind of had my foot up and Jenny, our friend, was looking at it. And I was like, what do you think about these? You asked. Because I could tell, what do you think about these? You ask. Because I could tell she was thinking something. Yeah. And I said,
Starting point is 01:05:51 she didn't say anything. I said, well, you know, because your husband, this is Mike's wife, I was like, they're like ergonomic, this is why I'm doing this or whatever. And I said, I think they look a little bit like clown shoes. She was like, yeah, I was gonna say they look like clown shoes.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Especially because they're a black boot, right? Yeah. So I just don't, I haven't worn them since. It kinda scared me off. And I just don't know if I've got. Some things are more important than full body health, Rhett. That's the thing is that I. You never go full clown.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Like I've got these, this is a brand, these are not barefoot, these Pateras, but they have very little support and they're very thin. But it's pretty traditional. These shoes are great, they have no support, they're very thin, it's like wearing nothing. No, but that's the thing, you think you want support and some people who have medical conditions,
Starting point is 01:06:39 they have to have the support, because I got those hokas for a while and I was walking around like I was walking on clouds. You know what I'm saying? But that was last year. That was last year, but then what I found is I don't want that. I have a pair of tennis shoes that have taken
Starting point is 01:06:58 the insoles out, and it's just the rubber sole, it's like that thing that I'm walking on, and I went on a four mile walk on the road in my neighborhood in these things. And like you just walk completely different. Because you like how they look. No, I'm training my feet, my feet are getting stronger. And I wanted to see what's gonna happen. Ten years ago, if I took a four mile walk in any pair of shoes,
Starting point is 01:07:24 by the time I got back on a road, by the time I got back to my house, what's gonna happen. 10 years ago, if I took a four mile walk in any pair of shoes, by the time I got back on a road, by the time I got back to my house, my back would be hurting, my knees would be hurting. I get back, my feet hurt a little bit, but that's the only thing, and then you just get off of them and they're fine. So I'm a big proponent of this,
Starting point is 01:07:39 and maybe if I could talk enough people into going with this barefoot shoe trend and going with the wide toe box. I got into a pair... It'll become a style. I got into a pair of Nike high tops the other day, and I was like, I cannot believe what is happening to my toes right now. It felt like toes that were supposed to be like that were like this, and I immediately took them off. I was like I can't do this
Starting point is 01:08:05 I cannot do this. It feels so restrictive. I got to spread my toes So anyway join this journey with me, you know, come on this barefoot shoe journey with me and we'll have big clown shoes Clowns unite! Well, we'll go around in a big old car and like 25 of us will get out of the car It'll be like, oh shit, how many people are in that car with those barefoot shoes on? Is this a clown troop? I mean, the limbs I think look good, and they're like, but they don't... I don't
Starting point is 01:08:35 think there's... I didn't miss when I wasn't wearing them, or when I don't wear them. You haven't fully adapted. I always hike to them with them. You haven't fully adapted. And I got Shepherd a pair of limbs for the Peru trip and he wore them and it was like, no, he's fine. It wasn't like, oh man, these are less comfortable. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:53 And they fold up real, you can pack them. That's the thing about all these barefoot shoes, they're so minimalist. You can take like seven pairs of shoes with you on a trip because they all just get pretty small. Why have one ugly pair of shoes when you can have six more? Yes!
Starting point is 01:09:06 See, when you call us, you fuel these type of conversations. Some of them we like, some of them we don't. I didn't like that conversation. Yep. But you asked for it. Right. And Rhett gave it to you. I mean, some of you tuned out. That's fine. And some of you liked it.
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Starting point is 01:09:50 Hey Rhett and Link. This isn't so much a question as it is something cool that I thought you might want to hear. My name is Kate. I am a student at the University of Florida and I study classical history. And for my final project this year, I painstakingly translated an episode of Good Mythical Morning into archaic Latin. So if and when time travel is invented, the ancient Romans will be able to consume your content. And for that, you are welcome. Thanks. Bye.

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