Earl Stewart on Cars - 05.18.2024 - The Best of Earl on Cars with Mystery Shop of Mullinax Ford of Kissimmee, FL.
Episode Date: May 18, 2024Earl and his team answer various caller questions and responds to incoming text messages. Earl’s female mystery shopper, Agent Lightning travels to the Orlando area to visit a local Ford dealer who ...claims to have no dealer fees. Earl Stewart is the owner of Earl Stewart Toyota in North Palm Beach, Florida, one of the largest Toyota dealerships in the southeastern U.S. He is also a consumer advocate who shares his knowledge spanning 50+ years about the car industry through a weekly newspaper column and radio show. Each week Earl provides his audience with valuable tips that prevent them from "getting ripped off by a car dealer". Earl has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, U.S. News and World Report, Business Week, and other major publications. He has also made numerous appearances on CNN, Fox News, CBS, and other news networks. He is frequently called upon by local and national media to comment on major trends and newsworthy events occurring in today’s rapidly changing auto industry. You can learn more by going to Earl's videos on www.youtube.com/earloncars, subscribing to his Facebook page at www.facebook.com/earloncars, and reading his blog posts at www.earloncars.com. To purchase Earl’s book, “Confessions of a Recovering Car Dealer”, go to www.earlsbook.com. This will forward to Earl’s Amazon page to complete your purchase. All proceeds from the book go to Big Dog Ranch Rescue. For more information or to adopt the dog you have seen today or any of their other dogs, please visit their website at www.bdrr.org. “Disclosure: Earl Stewart is a Toyota dealer and directly and indirectly competes with the subjects of the Mystery Shopping Reports. He honestly and accurately reports the experiences of the shoppers and does not influence their findings. As a matter of fact, based on the results of the many Mystery Shopping Reports he has conducted, there are more dealers on the Recommended Dealer List than on the Not Recommended List he maintains on www.GoodDealerBadDealerList.com”
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Good morning. I'm Earl Stewart. I welcome you to Earl Stewart on Cars, a live talk show all about how to buy, lease, maintain, or repair your car without being ripped off by a car dealer.
With me in the studio is Nancy Stewart, my wife, co-host, and a strong consumer advocate, especially for our female listeners.
We also have Rick Kearney, an expert on how to keep your car running right.
I dare you to ask a question that Rick can't answer about the mechanics or electronics of your car.
Also with us is my son, Stu Stewart, our LinkedIn cyber.
space through Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and Periscope.
Stu is also the Spymaster Director of our Mystery Shopping Report.
He dispatches our secret shopper weekly to an unsuspecting South Florida dealership.
And now, on with the show.
Good morning, everybody.
Well, we're back again.
We're one short, my son, Stu, is having some dental issues.
He won't be with us this morning, but we have Rick Kearney and Jonathan Cantor and Nancy
Stuart and me, and we're going to fill in for him trying to compile the text, and we ask you
to communicate with us as much as you can.
If you heard the show before, you know how important you are, or if not you, the callers
to the show, or the texters.
And we give you the numbers and the URLs and the addresses out until you go crazy, but we
have to keep doing this because we're on the show for two hours from eight to ten Eastern
Standard Time, and most people come in, listen.
for 15, 20 minutes, and you've got
lives like everybody, and you're
not going to be here for two hours, probably.
Those of you who do listen
to most of the show, that's great,
but that's a lot of time on a Saturday
morning, and we understand that, so
we'll be giving you these numbers out,
and I say that sincerely,
you're really to make the show.
We can talk and talk,
and yeah, we know a lot about cars
and how to buy a car. It's a whole
key to this show is how to buy a car,
or lease a car, without being ripped off
by a car dealer, we can help
you there. But your questions
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to know. So if you have
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And that's the old-fashioned telephone.
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9960. Now Nancy Stewart,
in the studio here she's sitting right to my left
she's got a laptop computer in front of her
we've got Jeremy in the control room so when you call
that information is transferred directly
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wave at us or slap us or do something to get us
stop talking and we'll take your call
we prioritize the phone calls so
if you want to get us oh we have a phone call already
wow that's fantastic yes good morning
We're off to a great start.
Yeah.
Good morning, John.
John's calling us from Palm City.
Yes, good morning to everyone.
I have a question.
It's probably to Earl, but I want to give a little background.
I'm all for electric cars, but the government is doing everything they can in their power now
to knock off our gasoline-operated and diesel cars.
An example is it's a proposal now, and it probably could go through
because it doesn't need Congress approval.
just like the first of May with our mortgages,
you're paying more for the person that has a poor of credit history.
Some credit card companies are also doing it now for car loans.
But here's the proposal, and it's in the Department of Transportation.
There's a proposal.
I call it a colonoscopy at a tailpipe.
Oh, boy.
Yes.
Well, here it comes, and it's around the corner.
What it is is Earl knows he entered the car business in 1960,
Earl, in your opinion, the inspection, which was authorized in the state of Florida, which was done away with,
do you think there was any success in that automobile inspection?
Well, it varied from state to state.
If it was done properly, I think it had a positive effect.
I think too often it wasn't really enforced and it wasn't really administered properly.
Like any government program, you know, in theory,
They make a lot of sense, but it's a filter down from the president to the states to the local authorities.
A lot is lost in the translation, and sometimes it can be just a joke.
But what's your opinion, John, on that?
Well, my father, I didn't live here then, but he had a Pontiac, and he had one bad tire on it.
This was in the 70s, and his mechanic that he used, he said, don't worry about it.
You'll have one tire that's not up to par.
I'll lend you a tire.
I have extra rims to go through the inspection,
and then after the inspection, you know, you give the tire back to me.
So that's just one example that I knew.
But in New York, it was so crooked.
It's done by individual, not by the state, okay?
My brother-law worked in Kennedy Airport.
This was in the 80s, and he was a pilot over there,
and some people were not sure if their car was going to make it
for an extra $20 on the side.
They would pick up your car,
somewhere in South Jamaica,
they would what they call smoke
your tailpipe, they would put a car
that would pass, and then they would put
the numbers in, and then you would be
100% correct
by passing, but it's not your individual
car. So I saw a lot of
underhanded, crooked business.
I don't know if they still have a
inspection today for pollution,
but I don't know how strict they got
on that, but that's what was going
on when I lived in New York area.
Well, I just, I
I hate to sound like I'm an anti-government person, but I love our government.
I love our system and our country.
But if you want to take an efficient private enterprise, they are usually twice as efficient
as just about any government enterprise.
That's the nature of the beast.
So I agree with you, John.
I think the inspections, they would work if they were properly administered, but they aren't.
There's too many layers of bureaucracy between the guy at the top and the guy on 34th Street and the local area administering what the policy is supposed to be.
Well, you're 100% correct, but what's scary is these things are instituted, just like May 1st with the mortgage rate, I mean, the people are paying that have good credit.
They're paying a higher rate than the one would put, and that was just passed by an executive order wasn't even approved by Congress.
Congress. So these things happen so fast. And I see also a crisis also, I mean, take the gasoline,
not only that the prices going up, but I see lines, especially in Costco. I see lines for gasoline
in BJs and in Sam's Club. And then last month, when you were away, there was a big station,
mobile station in downtown Stewart for two days that were totally out. And this isn't the hardest
to it of regular gas
87 octane so
I mean it's a
it's a sad situation
when we get
not only the price increases
but then we get shortage of products
and I don't know what the heck
poor planning is what I call it
and everything they do
it's unbelievable
John Rick has a comment on that
yeah remember that was
there was kind of a perfect storm
a couple weeks ago where
and it literally was
we had massive thunderstorms
hit Fort Lauderdale
at a time when they really weren't prepared for it
it flooded out the Port Everglades area
which is where a huge majority of our fuel
is brought in by ship
put in the tanker trucks
and shipped out all across South Florida
so all of a sudden South Florida
was dealing with
when stations were expecting trucks
to be pulling in to deliver fuel
it was two or three days before those trucks could get there.
Yeah, I remember.
Yes, I saw that first hand, but the scariest part is not only that the price is increasing,
but by the way, the inspection, when I saw it take place in New York,
a car that passed in flying colors, you're not going to believe this,
was a Model A Ford, a four-cylinder Ford with no problem whatsoever to pass.
They not only a safety inspection usually, but the emissions,
standing.
That's amazing.
Everybody was like shocked about that.
Yeah.
Well, the good news is when we are all electric, which will be quite a while, as you
know, there won't be anything to check, really.
It's going to be at least admission wise.
So government's clumsy, and I always say I wouldn't want to live anywhere else than where
we live in the United States, but politicians and our legislature and our regulators, they're
far from perfect. And they're never going to be perfect. That's the nature of the beast,
nature of the system. But it's the best in the world. So I live with it and smile and I don't
complain as much as I used to. Yes, I agree with you. But let's get going with these charging
stations. Because I see so few of them, they're building so many apartments and condominiums
in Florida. And I don't see any facilities around where people that live in those can plug in.
It's planned.
Planning is very, very poor on it,
including even, except for Stewart,
I see only in a while where they have the charging station.
I don't see other stations spending the money to convert for the electric.
John, you're right.
I think what's going to happen is we're going to have too many charging stations
because with the battery technology gets up to 600 or 700-mile range
on one charge.
You won't need those charging stations.
We've got some callers online here, John.
We're going to jump off and take another call.
Thanks very much for calling you.
Thank you for being there.
Thanks, John.
Give us a call again.
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We are going to go to Marty, who has been patiently holding from West Palm Beach.
Good morning, Marty.
Good morning.
Good morning.
I have to tell you a quick story.
My car finally came in after 15 months.
Yay.
And, well, wait a second.
The yay ended fast.
I got to ask Earl and Rick if they ever heard of this problem.
So I went, I took it for my touch drive yesterday.
And I put my seat in what I thought was my comfortable position.
I started going down U.S. 1, and I'm feeling the headrest is hitting my head while I'm driving.
I said, well, this is, I said, well, it must be able to push it back or something.
So I pulled over.
I got out of the car and I looked, and there's no way to push it back.
So I continued driving, and the whole time, of course, I unfortunately went down PGA and the bridge was up.
Now I got the headrest hitting my head now for 15 minutes, and I had to keep going.
So meanwhile, I took it over to my daughter's house in the gardens.
I had her sit in it.
I had my son-in-law sit in it, and the headrest was hitting both of their heads.
So I brought it back, and I talked to my sales, and I said, look, I've been waiting 15 months.
I don't want to not buy the car, but I said I can't drive a car with the headrest hitting me.
So I didn't take the deal.
I didn't do anything, and I went online when I got home, and there's a complaint about Toyota either push the headrest,
when they built them two forward.
Oh.
And other people were complaining.
So I was wondering if either Earl or Rick heard of this problem
or else they deal with very short people.
I haven't, but Rick would have.
I have not yet.
What model is this, the Camry?
This was the Camry X-E hybrid.
Wow, I'm going to have to watch for that
because we haven't seen any complaints so far that I'm aware of.
Yeah, I'll check on that for.
I can't remember exactly which cars, but I can remember having that issue in some cars.
If I'm riding in a friend's car or if I got a taxi or Uber or something like that,
I do remember certain situations where the headrest is very annoying and I didn't know about
it in the new Toyota Camry, but I'll check on that.
We'll see.
We could do the problem, as you will know, on the safety item, seats are very touchy because
they're very critical to safety and crashes.
And needless to say, headrests are double important.
So they don't allow a dealer to change a headrest or change your seat belt
or really change much anything about the way the seat is designed.
And that is going to be a real problem.
So I'm glad you called it to my attention, Marty.
I hadn't heard about that.
But we'll look into that deeply.
You'll be the first guy we'll call back.
I'll probably have to wait another 15 months
Oh gosh
Oh God
We can't do that to you
I'm starting to feel guilty
Yeah definitely
Your salesman and the sales manager
They all apologize
I said look it's not Earl Stewart
Toyota's fault
But when I did see it on the internet
I knew that I wasn't crazy
And not alone
Yeah bigger problem
At my 2020 that I drive
now, you never even feel
the head run. You just drive
it and you don't feel it.
Well, if there's anything we can do, we're going to do
it, so you'll hear back from
us today. Yes, most definitely
Marty. Thanks for bringing that to our
attention. We really appreciate your call.
Okay, have a good one.
You too. Bye-bye. Okay, ladies
and gentlemen, from time to time, I do
mention, you know, a
website you can
go to whatever car
dealer you were dealing with, if you
felt that he or she was breaking the law you can take and you can go to florida law protecting
carbuyers dot com don't forget florida law protecting car buyers dot com let your voice be heard
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we're going to stay with the phones and bob is patiently waiting
from Lake Park. Good morning, Bob.
Good morning, good morning, everyone. How's your foot?
It's pretty good, Bob. I've got to, I'm going to go see the orthopedic guy on Monday,
and I'm hoping he gives me the green light to take this boot off. It's driving me nuts.
Okay, well, I'm glad you're progressing a little bit.
I got some interesting information on Mullinex.
You know, they advertise no deal of fees.
Yes.
and I've talked to somebody
that worked there for 21 years
and apparently what they do, they do
have a deal of fee. And what they do
is they fold it into the price
of the car. So what they do
is they write the price of the car that they're going
to sell it on the windshield
with like a crayon.
It's a one price, you know, you don't
negotiate the price. That's the price
of the car. But the deal of fee
is embedded in that
number.
That's where it's supposed to be.
it's embedded
it's embedded
in that number so they're telling you
that there is no dealer fee but it really
and they just raised it it's $799
and that number and that's
embedded in that number on the windshield
Bob you heard what
what Rick just mentioned
and the
the problem with any sort of a fee
whether it's a dealer fee
or any kind of a phony fee
they call them junk fees and there are so many
other
companies and retailers
that do that. I mean,
rental car companies are
huge on junk fees. Airlines
when you buy an airline ticket, they're
huge on fees.
Yeah, but they show you that
don't, that, what I'm saying is
they're not being a transparent.
Well, no, here. It's opaque.
It's hidden, it's not
mentioned on the sales contract
on a line item.
Bob, listen to me. Even under,
even under a different name.
It's just embedded in the price.
Bob, listen to me.
See, what you're saying is you can, a seller, a car dealer, a rental car company, a hotel chain,
you can charge anything you want to.
The sin and the fees are you advertise a price or you tell your customer,
your potential customer, the price, and that's not the price.
then you add something, dealer fee, electronic filing fee, and as I say, all the other industries
that do that are wrong.
Once you take anything, whether it's a phone bill or if you want to call it a dealer fee,
you can call it a German Shepherd, you call it, you name it anything you want to, and
you put it in the price and you tell the customer, this is my price, then it's no longer
a bad thing.
All, as a matter of fact, all costs to a seller, a retailer that he has, by definition, have to be included, including his profit.
So when you say Mullinix is putting their dealer fee into their price, they're putting additional profit into their price, but it's okay if they tell you that's the price.
I get it, but I'm saying is, but they're using no deal of fee marketing as a hook to get you into the dealership,
but it really is embedded. It is embedded. I just find it duplicitous. I think I would be better served if they just told me here.
This is the price, this is our deal of fee, and show it to me. I don't mind paying the damn deal.
Well, my competition, my competition, I don't charge those fees.
either, the junk fees.
My competition says exactly to their customers, the customer will say to the toilet
dealer their shopping, say, well, Earl Stewart doesn't charge any dealer fees.
And then the salesman says, yes, he does.
He includes the price that he advertises and the price that he quotes you.
But don't you see that, first of all, I don't.
But all my cost, if I pay a salesman commission, if I have a utility bill, if I have a lease payment, if I have a property tax, all my expenses are automatically calculated included into what I have to sell my products for, which are my Toyotas.
So you're falsely accusing Mullinix.
If Molonex has something that he calls a dealer fee, which he doesn't, included in the price, but he could.
He could have a big meeting and say, okay, we're going to start charging a dealer fee of $1,000.
And we're going to increase the price of all our fords, $1,000.
And we're going to advertise that price by an additional $1,000.
That's perfectly okay.
Worst case scenario, he doesn't sell very many fords because his competition beats the price.
But he has to have a competitive price if he wants to stay in business.
And it's up to him to include anything he wants in that price.
the sin, the illegal act comes
when they tell you this is the price
and they sit you down and fill off the paperwork
and suddenly there's something called
dealer fee, electronic filing fee, tag agency fee,
they slip in on top of the price
that brought you in the door, the advertised price.
You get it?
I get it.
Think about it.
I understand.
Basically, it's what you think.
walking out the door. I get it.
But I would prefer
that, you know,
call it what it is.
And if he's going to include it in the price,
you know, just say so. I mean, that doesn't bother
me. The fact that they advertise
there's no deal of fee, but it's already
embedded in the price of the cost.
Go back to your source
on this information
and ask him
how he knows that.
I mean, I know the
Mullinix family. And
And they've been a business.
He worked there for 21 years, so I don't.
Yeah, well, he worked there for 21 years.
Mm-hmm.
As a salesman.
So I think what would happen is when they pay a commission,
if you're the salesperson, they pay you a commission.
That comes off the profit of the car, right?
So actually the selling price,
they'll deduct, Monix will deduct all that stuff
before they pay out the commission.
Oh, this is a, this is a, this is a,
I'm really glad you brought
that up because I hear this
from other customers
and Nancy says we got another
call holding but I got to say
this one last thing
when I stopped charge I had a dealer fee
20 years ago or whatever it was
it was $495
I decided not to charge the dealer
fee anymore so I had a meeting with
everybody and they all were going to quit
I'm crazy you can't do that
we got to have that profit we got to have
that I said listen let me tell you something
we're going to, we're going to raise our price
and we'll advertise a price
on a higher price than we do now
and then we're being honest
and the customer has the right to choose.
So we adjusted our price to what we thought was fair.
So in that sense,
I was including my $495 dealer fee
into my advertised price.
When the smoke settled after I raised my included,
my dealer fee into my advertised price.
When the smoke settled, I was still making about $200 more than before.
I lost about $250 as a result of sneaking it in at the last minute.
But the whole sin about hidden fees and junk fees is surprising it, springing it on your customer
when they don't expect it after you basically lied to him about the price that you told him he'd sell in the car for.
great question Bob I love it you you have probably helped a lot of people out there
that because the the salespeople are using that against car dealers that do
legitimately not charge that fee they are including every all their all their cost and
their advertised price call again Bob I'm sorry to cut you up but we got a whole
bunch of people calling here okay I have just one quick thing for Rick if you have
just a second okay sure yeah just a second the woman that called about
her Jeep where his seat was going up and down. I looked on the Jeep form, Rick, and that's a
common problem. And one person wrote in, he says, if you take the lever off, that would
solve the problem. So I just thought you might want to, you know, maybe talk about that, because I
see this guy, Marty's having a problem with his seat also. So, you know, it may be a design
problem with the Jeep. There's a lot of complaints about it, and apparently Marty went on
and he saw there's a lot of complaints about the headrests.
Okay, Bob, we'll talk about that after we take this next call.
Thanks for bringing that to our attention, Bob.
I think that might have been a couple of weeks ago,
but we need to look into that.
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We're going to go to Bob in Delray.
He's been holding.
And good morning, Bob.
Hello, hello, hello.
What difference is to make what it's called this profit?
That's what I say.
But in any event.
Thank you, Rick.
Last week I asked you about the screen on my Camry,
and you informed me about the technical service bulletin.
boy that's a great
I've been around the market
I've had money cars
I never knew about it
and I was in the business
so thank you very much for that
and I did have
something I wanted to ask you folks about
which I forgot brain freeze
but it was see foam
what do you think of that product
you ever hear of it? Many times
and
I'm still on the fence about it
because I'm not a big fan of the idea of mechanic in a can.
I've just seen so many snake oil products over my years
that really just do nothing.
Some of them, yes, they do serve a small purpose.
But truth be told, the only real results that I've seen
from any of these products is using something
to clean the throttle plate on higher mileage cars.
and other than that, cars that don't get a lot of highway miles, they just get, like, low city miles, they really don't get driven properly enough.
You take that car out on the highway for a 35, 40 minute, a one-hour drive at highway speeds, and any carbon build-up in there is going to break down and be burned out by the engine, just by that exercise.
so it's it's more a matter of varying the type of driving that you're doing with your car
that you really don't even need that product if you just once in a while go out for a
Sunday drive drive out to Indian Town take your wife to dinner or to breakfast out there
at the Seminole Country Inn it's a great place for a brunch and oh it's incredible
and then that drive out there and back nice longs highway
miles will clear out
carbon buildup in your engine
and you'll actually see a slight increase.
Yeah, Bob, I agree with Rick on that.
I think a lot of these are
advertised. People like to baby
their cars, people particularly who really,
really want to take care of their cars
are probably more susceptible to these
advertisements about
a mechanic and a can, I think,
is what Rick preferred to. And if you
talk to some skilled
mechanics, they'll tell you the same thing.
Rick, most of these things are garbage.
the manufacturers of these cars, especially today, I've really got, you know, the combustion
engine car, which is on the way out and EVs are on the way in.
But the combustion engine cars now are at really the peak efficiency and reliability and
low maintenance ever since I've been in the business.
And you buy a new car today, combustion engine, you just take care of it the way the
owner's manual said.
And I don't know any owner's manual of any car that says you should be buying these
mechanic and the can type products i tell you to change your oil check the tires and that's just
about it well i happen to i happen to agree with you on that i actually i met the owner of the
company a few weeks back but um you know you to mention e v i'm about to go away and i checked
out some car rents perks their price to rent the tesler is less than the half to rent a to
Toyota Corolla.
It's unbelievable.
I mean, on a daily basis, it's like $30 compared to like $70 for a Corolla.
It's amazing.
So I'm wanting to share that with you guys.
Well, that's good.
I didn't realize that.
That is cheap.
$30 from Hertz.
That's good to know.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's interesting.
But thank you.
You guys do a tremendous service.
I catch you whenever I possibly can.
Thank you very much for being there.
Thank you, Bob.
Give us a call again.
You know, you talk about products.
I've fallen in love with one.
It's called Ranax.
Been around for a long time.
Boy, what a product.
If you're in a hurry and you want something done effectively, efficiently, you know, fast, fast, fast, it is a great product.
Something you need to go out and pick up.
Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be getting to our mystery shopping report later on in the show.
That came to us from Kissimmee, and Agent Lightning did a fabulous job again.
And also we'll be talking about Earl's latest column, his blog, and that is Total Self-Driving.
Teslas are not as safe to drive today.
And we'll get into the sort of the meat of that.
Also, ladies, $50 for the first two new lady callers.
And I'm going to mention again the website that you need to go to Florida law protecting car buyers.
that's Florida law protecting car buyers if you feel that the dealer that you dealt with took advantage of you
if they're breaking the law your voice must be heard is the only way we can put this to rest or at least try
877 960 960 again text us at 772-4976530 now back to the recovering car dealer
you know I had an interesting phone call the other day from an elderly woman
84 years old. And she had a 12-year-old Camry that had been totaled. And thank God she wasn't
hurt, but she had to buy a new car in a hurry. Our insurance company was going to reimburse her.
She had good coverage. But this woman had been out of the market for 12 years. She bought
that vehicle from me, actually, and had bought other cars. But she'd been out of the market.
You know, when you're not in the market for a refrigerator or TV, you don't really pay too much
attention when the news or the advertisements are on that. You've got a good TV, you've got a good
refrigerator, and you just don't think about it. Well, she hadn't thought about cars. She had a
camera, and it was just doing fine. A low mileage, she didn't drive. She doesn't drive much.
So she came into my dealership, and the salesperson told her that for a new Camry, the price
would be MSRP. And she was really, really upset. I don't.
know the salesman I'm gonna find out because I don't think he did a good job of
explaining it so she called me and I had to explain the fact that during the
past three years some crazy things that happened to the car business and I
said you're really gonna have to trust me now when I tell you this that buying
a car at MSRP is really a good price now I I had to I choked a little bit
when I said that because I've been selling cars been a dealer for 50
years about and if I ever sold the car in the 60s 70s 80s or 90s for MSRP we
had a celebration we had a party you know we actually sold the car at MSRP and everybody
would say only suckers pay sticker price and that was true so here she comes in and here we are
so fortunately she she did believe me and the good the good news was her 12-year-old Camry
was worth a whole lot more than she ever thought it would be.
And that's a story.
But I mention that because I think a lot of you,
or maybe your friends, maybe the listeners to this show,
wouldn't be in that position.
But you probably have friends that they're happy.
They're going about their day.
They're driving a 5, 6, 7, 8, 9-year-old car.
Runs well.
They get it taken care of properly.
And you don't pay attention to the news.
I mean, you know, you don't need a car.
And that's, when they come in, it's going to be sticker shock.
And the worst thing about it is, if a dealer tells you the truth today and says,
I'm going to give you this car at an out-the-door price for MSRP, that's one thing.
But the dealers that advertise that they are discounting MSRP or selling it to MSRP,
they are adding these hidden junk fees.
and we talked about that earlier in the show the problem with these hidden junk fees is you don't know about them you believe the dealers advertising you believe the salesman the email you call the call the dealership up they said I'll sell you this car for that and then maybe you'll talk to two or three other deals they say this is the price so you go into the place where the lowest price and next thing you know you got $2,000 and hidden junk fees so that
that's the danger. It's a nightmare. If you've been out of the market, it's a double nightmare.
So I just want to relate that story to you of this woman who is now, she's kind of happy
because she's getting a lot more for her trade in that she thought she would, which almost
all sets what she would have had to pay for the car, for the New Camry.
Day and night situation. We're going to go back to the phones where John is holding,
west palm beach good morning joan hey good morning i got a question uh is there anything
other than dryer sheets uh that i can protect my uh wiring harness uh on a on a car uh i just had to
bring in a vehicle to uh actually the tesla and something got underneath the hood and chewed on the
wiring harness to cause a malfunction.
Oh, boy.
And I'm assuming if we have, you know, like with W spraying it once a month with WD40 or lithium
grease or something else other than that to keep that from happening again.
The one solution that I'm aware of that I know has been proven to work, there is a special tape.
I believe Honda produced it or had someone produced it for them.
It's available on the internet and it basically is infused with cap Zasin, which is pepper spray.
Wear gloves and eye protection, where you're using it.
Wash very, very well after installing it.
Don't touch parts of your skin because this stuff is pepper spray horrible.
And basically you wrap any sort of.
spot of wiring you can find with it and when the rats are mice start to chew they get a
mouth full of fire and they they leave it alone pretty quick but that's that's the only proven
effective method that I am aware of right now that I know is 100% effective there's plenty of
out there spraying them down with pepper spray or something like that but a lot of that stuff
Bear in mind, anything that you aerosolize and spray in the air that could get into your AC system, be drawn in, you know, into the air in your car, you might wind up breathing that, and you could create a situation a lot worse than what you're experiencing otherwise.
Right. And the spot where they chewed into the wiring harness is right underneath the hood near the hinge, right under the end.
underneath right below the windshield so i i can't do it because that's where the the air intake
you know uh the the fresh air comes in at that area right that's where you'd want to wrap that
tape on because the tape doesn't gas the tape won't release any odors or gashes you know anything
like that it's it's infused with it to where it only affects them when they chew on it
so you won't smell it or anything like that but yeah well i'm not
doing the work, Tesla's doing the work
and they've had the car for several days now
because the whole
the whole front end hardness
has to be, you know,
gone through and changed.
Right. John, I'm holding
an Amazon page
up on, for those streaming
us. It's called Rodent tape
and is exactly as Rick described
it. So you can buy, you can buy
this on Amazon. They have several choices.
This is
$19. $19.
$0.99 for a great big roll of Rootin tape.
Yep. Well, thanks for the call.
A lot of people, we hear this from time to time, our dealership,
we see it all the time, and Rick's recommendation is exactly what we'll keep that from happening.
All right, great. Thank you so much.
Thank you, John.
Great hearing from you, John.
We're going to go straight to George, who's giving us a call from Stewart.
Good morning, George.
Good morning. I hope you all doing well.
We are.
Yeah, I have a question about my breakthrough.
My brake fluid, I had it in for 70,000 miles, and I have a Honda Civic, and should I change it?
It's a matter of question, actually.
I would look at it first, basically.
Just pop the hood, take a nice bright flashlight, shine it into that reservoir, and if the fluid's still,
looks like it's kind of a yellowish straw colored fluid and it's still pretty clear. I would leave it alone. If it's dark, really, really dark, it looks muddy and looks like it's starting to get just a blackish appearance likely used motor oil, then I would consider having it flushed out and changed. Break fluid is what's called hydroscopic. It absorbs water, absorbs moisture. And that's why it's so effective for what it does.
is because it keeps the water from damaging any of the components inside.
So I would just give it a look.
If it still looks pretty kind of yellowish straw, I'd leave it be.
George, does that answer your question?
Absolutely.
Thank you very much.
You're all very nice people.
Thank you very much, George.
Thank you.
You're very welcome, George. Thank you.
Okay, we're going to go to Steve.
He's calling us from Boynton Beach.
Good morning, Steve.
Good morning.
I have a question for Rick.
Rick, last week, you mentioned to a caller that if the car should use premium fuel, the computer will adjust it if you put regular in.
Now, the question I have is this.
Years ago, I was told that if the car, when you open the gas, the door, if it says premium fuel recommended, you can put regular fuel, you can put regular fuel.
in. However, I was told
if it said premium fuel
required, you can only put
the premium in. And I have
a 22
Lexus NX-350
that says premium fuel
required, and I have been
putting in the 93 octane.
Is it safe to put
the regular 87 octane in this car?
It is safe to do
it. It's just, you might
notice a change in performance.
If you're one of those that you enjoy driving a car to its performance levels, you know, really, really enjoy getting that car out and putting its to its bases, you might notice that it just doesn't feel as powerful.
The reason being lower octane fuel, the computer is going to retard the timing, the ignition timing, to compensate for that lower octane fuel.
and by doing so
it's going to affect the
performance of the car
so if you
want to run the lower octane fuel
to get the lesser price
you can get away with it
you might notice a change in performance
the manufacturers when they do this
they're engineers when they
design the car and when they rent
it through the EPA in terms
of emissions
testing and fuel economy
and all that federal stuff that has to go
on the Moroni label, they used a certain type of fuel.
That fuel that they used when they went through the federal emissions testing is what they are going to recommend
and what they're going to say mandatory to cover themselves.
If the EPA comes back at them and says something to them about emissions or fuel economy,
they can say, oh, well, the customer wasn't using the high octane.
he was using another fuel, as long as they recommend it, they've covered themselves.
But as Rick says, from a reality standpoint, and the huge increase in cost for a high premium,
it's not going to, you're going to come out ahead of the game.
Even if it hurts your gas mileage a little bit, the money you would save on the lower octane fuel
would more than cover the cost of the fuel that you had to buy.
Well, my main concern, excuse me, my main concern was damage to my car.
No damage.
And because I used regular in my other Lexus by ES350, but when I filled up the NX, by accident, I filled the tank up with regular,
and I actually noticed no difference, but I just was afraid I was going to damage the car in some way.
But I can put the regular in, and it will not damage the car, avoid my warranty.
Yes, that's correct.
Yes.
because older cars back in the 90s, there was a potential for that,
that they couldn't react as quickly, and it could possibly cause some damage.
But that very rare case, and that's back in the 90s, these newer cars now,
they react so quickly, there's no worries with it.
And that's a great question you got, because a lot of people have that on their mind.
And with gas prices so high now, and people, and the gas stations, I think, understand that.
First of all, if they want to be competitive, they're going to use their regular, their lowest octane, and that has the big sign, and that's what they're advertising.
But the guy that's got the car where the manufacturer says, you know, high test required, they're going to pay all the money you ask because they feel like they have to.
So your question is good because a lot of people listening feel the way you do.
But the fact is, you do not hurt your car by using a lower octane.
You might, as Rick said, detect a little bit of difference in performance.
If that doesn't bother you, it's not going to damage your engine, and it's not going to avoid your warranty.
Well, I appreciate the advice.
And I want to say one other thing, Earl, many years ago I called you and spoke to you about a question I had.
You saved me a lot of money.
I had 2011 Lexus.
warranty was up, and I keep my cars a long time. I kept that car 11 years.
But for you.
And I said, you think I need you to get an extended warranty, and your words to me were,
it's too good a car that won't break. And you were right. I did not get the extended warranty,
and I kept it for 11 years, and I was fine.
Well, that's great. I tell people also, if you're still worried, I don't recommend
the extended warrant if you bought a good car like Alexis, but if you're still worried,
take the monthly payment that that extended warranty they were going to charge you for that
extended warranty and put it in the bank or put it in the stock market or put it you know and bonds
and just use it as an independent savings account so should you have a problem you can draw on that
that'll give you more of a feeling of security but the insurance companies that sell you these
extended warranties and the dealers often are the insurance companies because they have they design
their own warranties, and they go to the state
in Florida, they go to the state
insurance commissioner's office, and they sign up as
an insurance company. I have an insurance company,
and let me tell you something, those
insurance companies are extremely profitable.
They're making the money, not the people
that are buying the insurance.
I appreciate your advice.
You'll be a good public service you do every week,
all of you. Thank you.
Thank you, Steve. Thanks for listening.
It's a win-win situation, folks.
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The nice thing about a lease vehicle is you have personal experience for probably three years.
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but you don't have any other charges that the dealer would pass along to you.
If they do, there's a lot of lawyers in South Florida that have got a lot of money from suing dealers
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That was going to be my next question was regarding a phrase in there that says must pay applicable fees.
But that applicable fee is not identified in the contract, which I should have seen ahead of time but did not notice.
The number that you have there, the option price, the Consumer's Lease Act of 1976, I think.
It's been around for a long time, and it makes it illegal to charge anything above the purchase option price.
Awesome. Finally, do I go back to the same dealer? Do I go to any Lincoln dealer? Do I go to any dealer? Do I go to any dealer?
You can, with some, what make car are you leasing?
It's a Lincoln.
A Lincoln? I'm not sure about Lincoln. I think you, you can certainly go to any Lincoln dealer and go through him.
you might even be able to go through Ford
in some cases
the manufacturers have changed their policy on that
used to be you had to go through the dealer
some of the manufacturers are allowing you to deal directly with them
but whoever you deal with
just be sure that the only thing that you pay over
that purchase option price is sales tax
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Nothing goes to the dealer.
If he tries to charge a handling fee or a dock fee or they make up names for these fees, he's breaking the law.
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You're very welcome.
I was really wondering me.
So that's great.
Linda, I want to say that I want to congratulate you for being an educated consumer.
There are so many women out there that, you know, just,
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Mimi.
Hi, Steve.
Good morning, everybody.
Thanks, Dave.
Good morning.
Uh, last week I brought up that subject about AM radios and cars that they want to get rid of.
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay, well, now they got congressmen passing the bill, they don't want to get rid of it.
They want that AM radio in that car, in the cars.
Oh, geez.
Well, it makes sense to me.
It makes sense to me.
Why get rid of it?
I just, it's so easy to have that availability, and a lot of people like AM radio.
not a lot but it's not absolutely if you think about though every single state that you travel to
when you drive across the state line the first thing they have is state road information is on an
a.m. station. I never thought about that. If they were to get rid of a.m., every single state would
have to put up the money to switch their stuff from AM to FM or something else. You know,
let it go. I mean, it's a good thing. Stay with AM.
Yeah, what's it hurt to leave it in?
Yeah, because they're asking people to write to Congress
and they tell them, hey, we want the AM radio.
Oh, geez.
And to the guy who we just called about the Lexuses,
how many Lexuses has he owned?
Three or four?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, my idea is if you can afford a Lexus,
you can afford premium.
I mean, I'm a poor guy.
I put high test in my roadrunner.
You know, Steve, I'm on, let me do a little commercial for Alexis.
You know, sometimes the initial price of a vehicle is not as bad as you think about.
A lot of Lexus, you'd be surprised, the fellow you're referring to as a 2011 Alexis now.
He's driving in 2011.
Now, that's a long time.
And he told me, he says, I didn't buy a maintenance contract, extended service contract,
because you told me I bought a good car.
So how much is that Lexus owner really paid for that car over the past 11 years?
The depreciation is very small compared to most other cars.
Lexus don't depreciate.
The maintenance cost is less.
The repair cost is less.
So the guy that bought the Chevrolet or the guy that bought the Fiat, he might have paid thousands of dollars less.
But at the end of 11 or 12 years, I wonder who really paid more.
Very true.
Well, I would stick, if it says premium, stick the premium in there just to be on the face side.
But a lot of these, if you take it back, oh, you didn't put this in, you didn't do that, blah, blah, you wind up losing your case.
Yeah.
Well, a lot of people do these things because it makes them feel better.
I'm one of them really I happen to be a car dealer so that's an exception but you know
if I have a product I buy a product I try to to follow the rules and even if there's a subtle
reason why they tell me that's the reason people buy extended service contracts everything
you buy now whether it's on Amazon at the store anything you buy they ask you if you want
the extended service contract so you feel I bought the extended service contract on my Apple
phone because I felt
like I should because they asked me to
so I'm you know I'm a real
smart when it comes to cars but I'm not real
smart when it comes to other products
well
one time I made a mistake of putting
regular gas in my roadrunner
oh good Lord
I'm driving down the water I hit the gas
they had ping ping ping ping ping
oh no
well Rick says
if it does that you shouldn't do it
I know, but I made the mistake
I'm putting regular in
I was like I was daydreaming at the gas
Oh yeah
Oh boy
In an hour late
I just went to the gas station
Yeah let me get
I gotta get high test in here
I drove it
And you could hear the ping going away
Yeah
Interesting
Go to your local auto parts store
And get a bottle of 104 octane boost
Dump that in
That ping will be gone
For that entire time
Is that right
That works
Well but
Now, we're talking old school here.
We're talking an old roadrunner.
We're not talking a modern car.
This is where we're talking chemistry.
And basically, the 104 octane boost, it retards the burning of the fuel and increases the octane so that the fuel will burn slower in the cylinder on the higher octane or higher compression, older engines, which are your big elephantine performance engines that,
the 70s, you know, which your roadrunner's got, you're running a much higher compression
engine there, so you're going to want a higher octane to slow that down.
So you're telling me that if the cost of that, what is it called?
104 octane boost.
I see that.
Yeah, but it's about $15 to $18 a can.
Oh, so it's not.
It's not cheap, but it is a performance enhancer for the older cars.
So what you do when you made a mistake,
but you don't keep buying it
and putting regular in because it costs your fortune.
Oh, I see.
I see.
Well, it's a performance enhancement.
It is.
Maybe I should drink it.
It's basically it's a steroid for your gas tank.
You're a who.
You devil you.
All right.
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Thank you very much.
Thanks.
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Thanks for me.
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all of you patient callers this morning we really have our calls coming in just they're just
coming in left and right so we're going to go to john who's calling us from west palm beach
and robert from twin city mike from west palm you guys hang on we'll be right with you good
morning john hey good morning uh calling good i'm going to take the show back about 40 years so
Rick, you won't be able to answer because I don't think you're born yet.
This is going to have to go to Earl.
And talking about, speaking about octane boosting, Earl, do you remember, or did you ever experience putting
moth balls in the air cleaner to raise the octane in the older cars?
Wow.
I really haven't.
I can't remember that.
I was a nut back in those days because I was a hot rod.
and I used to drag race
and I was crazy
but I didn't hear
the mothballs Rick
had you heard that
that actually
was one of the old
wise tales
that had a little bit
of validity
started in this
again late 60s
early 70s
this is when America
was hot rods
we were all about the hot rods
the big Chrysler
elephant engines
the little Chevy
mouse engines
the rat engines
these were
everybody was looking
for that
extra tenth of a second. This is where Fast and Furious, where the real days were. And yeah,
they were looking for every tenth of a second. Mothballs would produce a little bit of gas
that was actually possibly a little flammable. So they believed it would help slow down the burn
in the fuel and, again, increase the octane rating by not having quite as much oxygen
available as well. So it's a weird chemistry thing they were trying. And it seemed to help a little
bit on some of the cars. Absolutely. And John, if you were to ask me, I would have said yes. And I'll
tell you what, back in Pittsburgh, gosh, did we use mothballs for so many different things?
And maybe as Rick said, these old wives tales. But today, I realize how toxic they are. But I did use
them back then. Believe it or not, I was born in 68, and so as I was growing up, I was on the tail end
of all those muscle cars. And unfortunately, at the time, when I bought my first car, I couldn't
afford it, but a guy right near me was selling a 68 roadrunner with the 383 in it. And, oh, man,
if I could have bought that car, but I wanted it in the worst way, but I just didn't have.
the money.
Interesting.
All right.
Thank you, John.
Well, that's it for me.
All right.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you, John.
Thanks for listening.
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We are going to go to Robert,
who's been patiently holding
from the Twin Cities.
Good morning, Robert.
Good morning.
Welcome.
we finally got rid of our snow up here in Minnesota
pardon me
I got rid of our snow up here in Minnesota
oh you get switched to the summer tires now huh
yeah
you hear me okay
yeah we hear you
what's on your mind
what's on your mind
23
Lexus RX
many half of St. Poe
we've got two dealerships
owned by the same
owner
the price
over the
over online from them
and they claim
that they have a
port charge up here
like $2,000
extra over MSRP
I mean
we would have ports up here
other than
other than Duluth
what's all right
what is the
what is the
Monroney label
when you look
the car is there anything on that monroney label that would indicate a legitimate charge called port
charge yes it says port charge on the monroney label the window sticker the the msrp yes i didn't think
we had port charges up here i i it doesn't sound legitimate to me uh the way to be sure is all
legitimate charges from the manufacturer or district
would be on the official Monroney label, the window sticker that's affixed there at the plant where the car is built and has to legally remain.
Now, what dealers do when they charge extra charges, like all the dealers in Florida, they put another sticker alongside the Mononi label, and they would have port charge, and they would try to make you believe it was legitimate, but it's not.
So to answer your question, if it's not on the official minority label, then it's a dealer added charge, and it's not legitimate.
It's not part of the recommended, suggested retail price.
Could that maybe be listed on an addendum?
Well, it would be, and the addendum is not, you know, the addendum is at the whim of the seller, the dealer.
And if this is, there are other distributors, what make car is this?
Alexis RX.
Yeah, Lincoln, that wouldn't be, yeah, that would not be legitimate.
It makes no sense.
If it was an import.
Not a Lincoln, it's a Lexus.
Oh, Alexis, okay.
Lexus are manufactured.
They could be imported.
Yeah, they do.
I think Alexis still come in for.
from japan uh but it could be the distributor for lexas adding that on but that would be part of
the monroney label i also found out that these both the dealerships are owned by the same company
and they're kind of naples called napleton oh you got a problem there napleton napleton uh napleton uh at least in florida
is uh is one of the worst uh most
deceptive non-transparent i i could think of some other attitudes that i can't say on the air but napleton
florida is uh is uh not a good place to buy a car uh but he's got a lot of good dealerships
and i can't say from from knowing that he doesn't have honest dealerships uh up where you live
so i would be but but just the name itself i'd be very dubious uh and i would certainly shop and
compare that lexas with another
a Lexus dealer. Lexus dealers, Lexus has been very good about enforcing their dealers to sell
their cars without extra fees. They strongly encourage Lexus dealers not to flim flam. And most of them
follow that. And if there is a fee, it's a very small fee. So if you've got a big fat port fee,
I would try another Lexus dealer, especially if it's called Napleton Lexus.
It's a $2,000 fee right now.
That sounds to me totally phony
Go to find the next
closest Lexus dealer
Call them, email them
And give them the information on the car you want to buy
And see what they have
And you're probably going to find
They don't have that port fee
Okay, well, I thank you very much for the information
And you have a good day now
Thank you for all.
Thank you, Robert. Give us a call again.
We're going to go straight to Mike
Who's calling us from West Palm Beach.
Good morning,
Mike.
Hello.
Good morning and welcome.
What can we do for you?
Yeah, I admire Earl Stewart.
The reason being is that I bought a Hyundai from him,
which I since gave way as a wedding gift to my daughter who's getting married.
And when I saw the car at the end of North Lake Boulevard,
of course he's got that big bullboard up there
he gave me
the salesman they voluntarily gave me
the report on that car
what do they call that way
carfax problem
yeah that's it right
and it indicated very clearly that
the car was a one owner
it was never leased at 18,000 miles on it
at the time I bought it
when I gave to my daughter I had 30,000
33,000 miles on it.
And I want to tell you that, through all of those miles,
I never touched anything on that car.
And that car today still is running very, very well.
I mean, I've just thrown, you know,
I've never had that experience in my life.
I keep in mind, I'm a motorhead.
I go back to a 1969 Corvette
that I worked over myself.
Heads racing done, you know, canned.
I signed it out at 490 horse.
we could do zero to 16
or four seconds flat,
you know?
So I know, I noticed
and I just can't get over
how great that dealership was.
I paid top dollar at that time
for that car, but boy, was it worth it?
And they're still riding it around today.
Well, good for you.
I really, I appreciate the compliment.
Thanks so much.
You're quite welcome.
And I'll tell you what.
Keep up the good work because
you are very,
lightning and you do learn things also and don't forget being the motorhead i am you know
sonoco blue used to be 110 octane at 399 back in the day when i had to have these things
and i've been riding a holiday ever since i was 17 years old because i grew up in jersey my name is
my handle is jersey mich living in west palm beach really uh-huh yeah you make a good son
anyway yeah for sure best job we're in the world that's earl's favorite yeah i just want to
say, Earl, you've got a great dealership going there.
Thank you very much, Mike.
We appreciate that.
Okay.
Give us a call again, Mike.
We love to talk to you.
I will definitely.
Jersey, Mike.
Jersey, Mike.
Okay.
Look, I know what Earl's having for lunch.
Okay.
You know something?
I love breaking records.
And today, today we have so many female callers, so many lady callers this morning.
It's just fabulous.
I've got goosebumps.
I just love it.
We're going to go to, actually, we've got four, we're going to have a total of four lady callers, and that is breaking records.
We're going to go to Amanda.
She is a first-time caller, and she's from West Palm Beach.
Good morning, Amanda.
Good morning.
Welcome.
You won yourself $50 this morning.
Awesome.
Thank you so much.
You stay on the line after we're done talking and give Jeremy your information, and he'll pass it alone to me, and I'll get that.
that check out to you perfect thank you so much thank you're welcome what can we do for you this morning
so i have a 2011 Honda element and i was curious if it's feasible to convert the car to a hybrid
or some kind of ethanol fuel um and i was also wondering what about the cost no it's you'd be
talking trying to literally redesign and rebuild an entire car
Pretty costly.
It wouldn't even be worth the cost of it.
Just on a point of interest, Amanda, it isn't a crazy idea because Toyota has taken that very tack in terms of compromise between electric vehicles.
And they're talking about converting combustion engine cars over to electric vehicles and also hybrid.
They have a global way of looking at things.
And we live in the United States, and we think about the way things are here, and we think that's the way things are in the world.
But Toyota looks at the whole world.
And if you look at India and China and the entire globe in terms of drivers, there's a huge number of combustion engine cars.
And a lot of those folks out there can't afford to buy the hybrids and the electric vehicle.
So Toyota is actually pursuing converting the combustion engine cars into hybrids, into,
all electric, which
they're going to have to show that to me
to make me believe it, but Toyota is pretty good at doing
what they say they're going to do, so it isn't a crazy
idea. You can't do it today. Rick is absolutely
right, but Toyota is looking at it from the
long view, and maybe 20 years from now
when you got some places like in South America, India,
and these people driving these old cars,
instead of having to scrap them, they'll be able to use them as electric vehicles.
That's pretty cool.
And what about ethanol exception or?
I don't think that's going to cut it.
I think ethanol has been on the way out for a while,
and most of the manufacturers are designing their cars now where you're going to damage your car.
ethanol as a fuel just doesn't have the calories the power per gallon that gasoline has and it just is so inefficient to attempt to use it that it really just doesn't work as a as a main fuel source for an automobile there's so much better uses for it and automobiles really as a whole are just better with gasoline
it's almost like talking about apples and oranges
Amanda
do you have any other questions
I think
did we answer you a question
yeah I think that's it
okay great
don't mean to rush about
we've got a lot of calls backed up
so give your information to Jeremy
and please spread the word
and thank you for building a platform here
for the ladies our voices
must be heard
and it's important, and I would say that 100% of all of you are very educated in the car business
and purchasing, leasing, servicing, everything.
It's the 21st century, and we are part of it, a very important part of it.
Have a great weekend.
Thank you, too. Thank you, guys.
Good morning to Carol.
Carol's calling us from Jupiter, and she is another first time.
caller. Good morning, Carol.
Good morning. Can you hear me? Yeah, you're light and clear. I want to tell you,
you won yourself $50 this morning, and when we're done talking, give Jeremy your contact
information, and he'll pass it along to me, and I'll get that check out to you.
Okay, thank you, but that's not why I'm calling. I thought the other lady got it.
Well, today, Carol, I want to let you know that we're breaking records this morning.
And we have a lot of lady callers, and it's just an amazing morning.
So you're lucky enough to win yourself $50.
Thank you.
What can we do for you?
I'll make it as quick as I can.
I'm in my third Prius purchased from your dealership, Burrell Stewart, and I love them.
I was there yesterday for service.
And from the man who greets you when you're checking in, from John Nichols, who takes care of us and the bagels we had for breakfast, it's all just, I mean, it's really a pleasure.
It's not like going to the dentist at all, and I love the dealership.
But I want to tell you that I read your article in the Florida Weekly about out the door.
Yes.
The last Prius we bought from your dealership, when we were done, because we go in as a very educated consumer, your salesman said that when he buys his next car, he wants my husband to come with him to negotiate.
So what you said about out the door is very important about knowing what the car should sell for before you go in.
And other than that, I listen to you every Saturday, and I always learn stuff,
and I thank you so much for your, I want to say, integrity in the way you do business.
Thank you, Carol.
That means a lot.
I appreciate it.
That's very nice.
My last little question is, I have a 16 Prius.
I love it.
I'm driving it right now.
How long before, I mean, when the battery goes, does it give you a signal,
week or does it just die?
You'll start seeing
check engine light come on and
the codes that you'll get when you bring it in
and have us check it will indicate that
the battery is starting to have some issues.
I've
almost never seen one just
totally die from the hybrid
battery. They
give you probably several months
warning that it's on its way out.
What is the mileage and what is your
how long have you had that third Prius?
it's a
16
and I've got about 50,000
on it
oh it's a baby yet
you've got a lot of life left in that one
you're under warranty also
the battery's under warranty
yeah yeah okay
all right thank you for the good work
not a very old car at all
and I just want to thank you
for all of the compliments
we work hard
at what we do
and Earl as our
leader has done a remarkable job. And thank you so much. I'm proud to say that we've been on the
air for, gosh, 20 years. It seems like a lifetime, but we have really bonded with a lot of our
callers, Texers, YouTubers, and we've helped a lot of people. So it's a win-win situation. I thank you
for the call and give Jeremy your information. Okay. Thank you. Okay, we're going to go to
Eileen who's calling us from Jensen Beach she too is a first-time caller and today's uh she's going to win
$50 even though she's the fourth female caller good morning Eileen yes good morning I think to be
Alexis day um calling from Jensen Beach and if you're you're looking at closer I'd be going down
there uh which I might anyway I have a 2007 Lexis Sports Coup
430 hardtop convertible um great car the only thing is that the passenger side door the the hinged
creek i've had an estimate of a thousand dollars to replace your thoughts your comment uh yeah that's
probably something you're going to want to have a check by a body shop uh unfortunately when those hinges
start getting weak like that that's that's just something they're going to have to get done
uh but for that lexas i would consider it at a pretty small price really that's a beautiful car
yeah and there's not a lot of them on the road for some reason they really just didn't sell a
whole lot of those but to me they oh those are beautiful cars absolutely the very few times
if someone has brought one in and said,
hey, I've got this weird issue.
Can you take it out for a test drive for me?
It's like, oh, yes, I can.
They're fun to drive.
I recommend that you get probably at least three bids on that.
And I don't know if you deal with your Lexus dealer,
but the Lexus dealers tend to charge top dollar
because the Lexus clientele can afford it.
So I think I would check with
maybe even a Toyota dealer or an independent
and get three bids on that cost of that replacement
and that'll probably save you a lot of money.
Okay, yeah.
So it would be the hinge that would need to be replaced on the door.
Is that what you're saying?
You think they're?
Yes, yes.
Worth it to put the money into this car?
Yes, my opinion.
And your car right now, you would probably be amazed
what the value is you can check well i was going to say i if stew were here he has his book out
he would be able to check it but if you wanted to call call me after the show and get
me a description of the vehicle we could tell you what the current market value is but that
particular car we're very knowledgeable about that because we have the same car with toyota
called the Solara convertible.
And those cars, they didn't build enough of them.
The owners won't sell them.
They love them.
They were such a high-demand good car
that the value actually appreciated.
And so your vehicle is definitely worth investing a few dollars
in getting the hinges in your door fixed.
And that car will be with you for a long time
as long as you want to keep it.
and if you sell it you'll make a you'll make a profit on it and whatever shop you go to to have
that hinge done i make sure to check them out make sure they've got good reviews and that you
it's a good quality shop oh yeah yeah definitely i lean it sounds like as if that you have
really taken care of your vehicle um i have to commend you on that like the uh salara like earl
said boy what a beauty that was and it sounds like your car is equal to that and gosh do i
I miss that Salera, so it's definitely worth taking care of the hinges, but as you've done before, do your homework, and you'll be sure to, you know, keep your investment solid.
All right.
Thank you.
And, Eileen, stay on the line and give Jeremy your contact information so he can pass it alone to me, and I can write you out a check for $50 this morning.
And thank you so much for promoting this for women to call in.
And we really appreciate your cheerleading.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Eileen.
Spread the word and help us build the platform here,
had Earl on Cars and have a great weekend.
Thank you.
I'll hold on.
Okay, we have one more call, and that is Jeff from West Palm Beach.
Good morning, Jeff.
Hey, you guys.
How are you?
Good.
We're great.
Thank you for calling.
Hi, I listen to you guys every Saturday, and I have a problem.
I think Earl's a man for this.
I bought a 22 RAM from Arrigo,
and currently it's been in the shop seven times,
four times from the same problem,
and I'm looking to do a Lemon Law.
How does that work?
Well, you have to give the dealer, Arrigo,
two chances to repair the car.
The most important thing to remember about the Lemon Law
is your communications with the dealer
should be in writing because you want to be sure that there's no dispute when it goes to arbitration
about what you did. So you need to write the dealer a letter or send him an email and specifically
state the problem with your vehicle. And when it fails to repair, or do he fail to repair
it right, you need to do another written communication and say you did not fix this
correctly and if you don't fix it this time I'm going to invoke the lemon law you
have to be in writing with that to qualify for the lemon law after that they will
take it to arbitration now the lemon law by the way is not against the dealer the
lemon law is against the manufacturer so the manufacturer gets very much involved
in this there's one negative side about the lemon law once you say lemon law once you
invoke or you would suggest that you will invoke the lemon law, they won't talk to you anymore.
The manufacturer and the dealer are advised by their legal counsel that when it comes to a legal
case, everything has got to go by the book, the written law. If you have a friendly relationship
with the dealer and you really think their intent is good to try to fix the car, then you
don't want to necessarily invoke the lemon law. But if you're in the individual, you're in the
your rope and you just say they can't do it and they're not treating me right then you have
nothing to lose the better business bureau is the last I check was the arbitrating entity for the
lemon law and they'll you'll go in front of a board you'll present your case the the manufacturer
will present his case maybe through the dealer and they'll and they'll make a decision if they decide
in your favor, then they will refund your money less the usage to your car.
So if you've driven the car for one or two years, they have an estimated life for the car,
so they deduct the time you did own the car and drive it from the reimbursement that you get.
I actually, I have everything documented.
I've been keeping receipts for everything.
Great.
And it was in this.
I brought it in Monday morning.
I picked it up yesterday morning.
and the problem that they supposedly fixed
was broken again by 3 o'clock.
Well, that's...
They violated the...
You're qualified to pursue the Lemon Law now,
so you can use an attorney
or you can do it yourself.
If you need any more information,
you Google it, there's a lot of information.
Every Lemon Law varies from state to state.
Florida Limon Law is different than other states.
But we've got a pretty good lemon law here,
and it works.
I mean, I've seen it personally.
Toyota builds a pretty good product,
and that's what our dealership is Toyota.
But we have had Toyotas that just weren't right.
And we would support the dealer on that and say,
look, we have the factory technician come in.
We had our technician come in.
We can't fix it.
And sure enough, the manufacturer bought the car back.
Okay.
So who am I dealing with at the dealership?
I would deal with as high entity as I could.
Ideally, the owner, the general manager, at least the general manager.
The person you're dealing with has to be high up because otherwise you're talking legality or you're talking lawyers.
And I know in my dealership, if I have a legal issue, I am always personally involved.
And you should have the owner or the general manager.
communicating with him directly.
Okay, that's what I need to know. I do appreciate it.
Well, you can call us back, and if you have any issues or bumps in the road,
just let us know. We'll be glad to advise you on that.
And as I say, go to Google, just Google Florida Lemon Law.
They give you the specifics, and it's important that you go by the specifics
because if the dealer gets a lawyer to fight this or the manufacturer gets a lawyer to fight this,
they can find a loophole.
if you forgot to dot and i or cross a t that's where they'll get you not on the not on the reality of the fact that they build a bad product but they can get out of it because you didn't follow the letter of the law okay i appreciate it thanks guys you're very welcome thanks for the call again i think that what we're going to do is check with rick and we're going to see i bet you've got a whole lot of text to get to we do have a lot of texts uh and one quick note from donovan on this last copy
He says, the caller should Google Lemon Law Lawyer for Florida and let the lawyer step in and handle that.
Yeah, I said, I didn't know.
I should have thought sometimes the legal fees are paid.
And I don't know if the legal fees were paid by the Lemon Law, which would be the manufacturer,
then you should definitely have a lawyer.
Yeah, because I can tell you from the one case that I actually, where I had to get a lawyer involved,
it made a world of difference.
Okay, well, let's start with Anne-Marie's right off the bat here.
Good morning, Ann Marie.
This is good morning.
I was wondering about credit checks and their possible impact to credit ratings.
I hope you can clarify things from a dealer's standpoint.
Do car dealers run a credit check on every customer who walks through the door?
I've heard that credit ratings get dinged every time someone runs a credit
check on a customer. Is this true? And lastly, what does a dealer do if they see the customer's
credit files are frozen? People often freeze their credit to help minimize the chance of
ID theft. They can unfreeze their credit if they want to get a loan. Thanks. Yeah, that's true.
Well, you unfreeze it. That's what you would have to ask the customer to do that. As far as
running credit checks, I'm not completely clear. I do know this.
that if you're trying to buy a particular car and you run multiple credit checks with different dealers,
that is going to be, affect your credit to some extent.
It isn't as bad as it sounds.
I know that customers have said to my people at my dealership,
don't run my credit because it can affect my overall credit.
Running your credit is not necessarily going to affect your negative credit.
I wish I could be more specific on this.
But if you do it excessively, then it signals the lenders that this person is having a hard time getting a loan.
And that's the reason they're going around asking for credit at various places.
If that signal is sent out, it can negatively affect your credit.
It's an indication you got a problem, but to do this in a normal sense of credit checks,
if you went to three Ford dealers to buy a Ford and over a period of, say, 30 days,
those three credit checks would not negatively affect your credit.
But if you did a lot more than that, and you were looking for Chevroletes and Ford's and Hondas and Toyotas,
and you're just going nuts with credit checks,
they say this buyer has got a problem.
They have to figure out if it's a legitimate person
just trying to get a good price
or a person with bad credit
trying to have someone make a mistake.
Okay, let's see this one from Bob.
Good morning.
The reason Congress wants to keep AM radio
is probably due to so many political talk shows.
Just saying,
Bob. There's always something like that behind everything that goes through Congress.
There also is another quite likely reason. A.M. Radio is kind of a funny process. Amplitude modulation,
which it stands for, can actually transmit extremely long distances if you have areas without
buildings in the way. And that's one of the reasons that the government uses it for all of the
national broadcast and alert to the people, their primary source is AM radio because it can
transmit from one station hundreds of miles and even skipping off the atmosphere.
When my father was little boy, my father was little boy before they had radios, if you can
believe that, when they first got their radio, they would, family would gather around the AM radio
in the middle of the night,
right, you know, midnight,
because there was no signals in the air,
and he lived in Detroit,
and they could listen to Chicago
with an AM radio.
But with saturation we now have of signals,
that doesn't happen so much anymore.
Right, but the government still loves their AM radio,
so I doubt it's going away anytime soon.
Let's see.
Just says, morning, question for Rick.
Is my engine for,
can twist the oil dipstick but not withdraw it.
I can't say anything about the engine right now.
Usually oil dipsticks have a little rubber O-ring at the top
and that rubber O-ring dries out
so when you're trying to pull it out,
you're basically pulling on that rubber
and it's an elastic grip that's holding on.
That's why you can spin it a little bit.
You may just have to kind of muscle it.
kind of muscle it and just really pull on that thing to get it to pop loose, and then, of course,
put some grease or oil on that O-ring and maybe even replace that O-ring, actually, to double
check and see if you've got oil in the engine still.
First step I would do, make sure you've got oil in that engine.
Okay, and this one from Jonathan and Wellington, how can a layperson tell the difference
between a legitimate monroney label and a fake one.
That's hard.
The dealers are very clever.
They're businesses.
The manufacturer, I call them phony monorony labels.
And they go quite a...
The artwork, the fonts, the type style, the colors,
they do everything to counterfeit a monorny label.
So they will take a dealer-installed accessory
or a dealer-adendum label
and they will run it through the printing press
that makes it look almost exactly like a Monroney label.
The Monroney label,
you really have to study carefully if it's a good copy.
Now, a lot of them aren't so good,
and they're pretty simple to understand,
but it is a shame that the federal government
lets dealers get away with that.
And this one also from Jonathan,
he says, this is Jonathan.
I bought my 23 Corolla
at your dealership on Thursday.
My fourth car purchased at your dealership.
The entire experience was top-notch and painless.
Marlene did an outstanding job.
So you might want to find Marlene.
Give her a pat on the head, say, thank you.
Absolutely.
I did my homework before I purchased Smart Maneuver,
before I purchased the vehicle,
and saved almost $4,000 by buying from Earl Stewart Toyota.
this isn't an advertisement for you I'm just telling it like it is thank you very much
that's pretty nice to hear now we also have a couple others a little late on this one
but that's that's we just didn't see it last week was happy mom's day miss Nancy that's from
Roadrunner Steve oh thank you Roadrunner Steve thank you very much let's see this other one
here we have oh there it is ah this is from
From Jennifer from last week, she posted a video of that seat in her Jeep with it sinking down and she says she took it less than 48 hours after she'd adjusted it to the highest setting and the seat had shrank down and I still say that's a safety issue.
Jennifer, if you're listening, you need to get to another Jeep dealer, show them that video, show them your proof.
say, hey, this is a safety concern.
It is, pick time, yeah.
And they need to address that and get that right.
And this went in from an anonymous that simply says,
Subaru is dog approved.
I love those.
Isn't that the truth?
Well, my own personal feelings, I've learned this.
I trust my dog's instinct so much that if my dog doesn't like you,
don't get too interested that I might like you
because I trust my dog
and if my dog likes you I'm going to like you
for that. For sure. But if my dog don't like you
you might want to kind of go somewhere else because
I'm not going to like you. Okay. That's got a little caught
up on the text and on YouTube so far. Okay.
Getting pretty late here.
I think we need to get to
Did you want to talk for a second about the column, or did you want to go straight to the...
Very quickly on this blog that we're in Florida Weekly, Hometown News, the blog, and we'll have it on Facebook.
The latest blog is total self-driving Teslas are not safe to drive anymore.
Now, a lot of you folks out there think I'm in love with Elon Musk.
Nancy and I have a Tesla plaid, and we've talked about autonomous.
and every time we talk about it, and we tried it,
the autonomous has not been up to snuff.
Elon Musk was just interviewed on CNBC,
and on CNBC on Monday,
he said that he thought the autonomous would be ready this year,
and he personally had driven a car in San Francisco,
heavy traffic in San Francisco compared to this area,
for three days without ever having to override the autonomous.
us. So Nancy and I said, wow, and we just got a software download automatically into our
Tesla Plaid. So we hopped to the Tesla Plaid, and we drove it up to Stewart, Florida, about a 20
mile drive. And as we got up there, a car coming toward us in the other side of the divided
highway, put his turn signal on as if he were going to turn in and make a U-turn. Our Tesla
plaid stopped in the passing lane of 50-mile-an-hour speed limit. We were very
nearly rear-ended, I had to override the
autonomous to get out of the way of the car that was going to hit me from behind.
So I just want to go ahead and tell all you Tesla owners
out there, the autonomous is still not ready for prime time
and it is not safe. And if you do drive with the autonomous on,
be ready to override it very quickly. Yeah, and anybody
that just listen to this story, you can
go ahead to Erwan Cars.
And you can take a look at the column that Earl wrote.
Total self-driving Teslas are not safe to drive today.
Or you can go to the hometown news, the Florida Weekly, and you can read the blog.
Now we are going to get to our Mystery Shopping Report,
and Agent Lightning took us to Mullinex Ford in Kissimmee, Florida.
Now back to the recovering car dealer.
If you listen to the show earlier, and that was at the very,
beginning. We had a call from Bob, I believe he was in West Palm Beach or Lake Park, maybe.
He said that he had a friend that used to work for Molonex who said that Molnex does have a
dealer fee, but he hides it in the price of the car. And I conversed with him about that,
that that's not really a dealer fee because you can put anything you want in the price of the car
as long as you give it to the customer and allow the customer the privilege of shopping and
comparing with other dealers. And I forgot to mention that it's real important, ladies and gentlemen,
that you vote on the mystery shop of Mullinix Ford,
and you can do that at 772-497-6530.
Now back to the recovering car dealer.
Okay, I'll be speaking in the first person,
as if I were Agent Lightning, who was our mystery shopper,
I arrived mid-morning,
and was greeted immediately upon walking through the door.
And again, this is Mullinix Ford in Cassini, Florida, near Orlando.
The salesman asked as someone was as,
expected me to which I responded, not that I'm aware of. I'm just moving here. When he asked
what I was looking for, I shared that I was in the market for a new car jokingly asked if they
carried any of those. He laughed, assuring me that they had quite a few, and that I was in the
right place. Well, I mentioned looking for a new car with good gas mileage and low cost. He
suggested a Ford Escape. Asked if I was open to a certified used car. As you could have no.
listening to laugh from this.
He said it was his job to ask.
He suggested that we walk out to the lot
where he had three or four escapes.
During our stroll, he inquired
if I plan on trading anything in,
which I replied, no.
He replied, why?
My response was simply life change,
which prompted an understanding nod from him
and laughter from both of us.
Now, all salespeople will ask you
if you have a trade in,
and it is very important to them.
If you have a trade in, then they have to think in terms of what they might allow you for it.
They have to think in terms of what the trading difference would be.
It's a real important factor.
So I always believe in saying I don't have a trade in, even if I do have a trade in, I recommend that.
You can always say at the end of the negotiation or whatever, you say, I changed my mind.
I believe I will trade my card.
But don't let them know that you're trading a car from the get-go.
Okay, back to the report.
He suggested that we walk out to the lot where he had three or four escapes,
forward escapes.
During our stroll, he inquired if I planned on trading anything in.
When I replied, no, we question why.
I just did that.
I told him that my brother had dropped me off and then I left my license of home.
He asked me where my license was, brought me to explain that I just relocated here
due to a change in my life status.
I think she was implying maybe a divorce
and that my next job was the Department of Motor Vehicles
for a new license.
Although he hadn't yet shared his name,
the salesman, he suggested going back
to handle my license online.
Boy, he's very accommodated.
However, I expressed my wish to figure out my car situation first
and then proceed to the Department of Motor Vehicles.
He reluctantly agreed
and led me to where the Ford escapes were parked.
Explain the policy of no dealer fee or hidden fees, meaning I could simply add a 7.5% sales tax so that wouldn't have a sticker price.
Now that is quite admirable, and I think it's really amazing that the caller earlier had been told that Mullanex was hiding his junk fees, hidden fees, dealer fees, in the price of the car.
By definition, a junk fee, hidden fee is something that is not.
in the price of the car. That is the sin. The thing that's wrong about these fees is that you don't
know they're part of the price of the car. They're part of the price of the car, but it's hidden
from you, and it's also part of the profit to the dealer, which is hidden from you. But you can put
anything you want in the price that you quote because that gives you the buyer the right to shop
and compare. The hidden fees or junk fees take away your God-given right to shop and compare
in a free market, and that's what you should have.
After considering this for a moment, I expressed by desire
to understand the potential monthly payment
and the required down payment.
He agreed to help and showed me the three different cars in stock.
I selected with an MSRP of $30,495, a new,
2022. I put new in quotes because this is 2023,
but yeah, 2012 is a new car.
if you haven't sold it, entitled it.
For front-wheel drive, or front-wheel drive,
which turned out to be a demo.
Front-wheel drive?
Yes.
Yeah, I think it was an all-wheel drive.
He pointed out that there was a manager special,
meaning it hadn't been titled yet.
Now, that's the legal definition of a used car,
a new car.
It hasn't been titled yet.
In my mind, the car's been driven,
and it's a year-old, to me it's a used car,
legally it's a new car. Only a manager had driven it, adding some miles, and thereby
qualifying for a slight discount, he said. He shared me it would come with all
warranties, and I would be the first owner. This is true. Manufacture allows you to add to
the $36,000 or $50,000, or whether the manufacturer's warranty is if it has not been
titled and driven by the dealership. Seeing it that had over 2,400 miles, I sought reassurance
about this new purchase status in warranty, which he affirmed.
And this is accurate, by the way.
Noticing a few nicks in the paint, I mentioned those to them.
He said they could easily touch those up, so I agreed to proceed with the price.
I'll digress a bit here to all these promises and all these agreements you have with that salesperson,
always be sure they're in writing.
And when he tells you something that makes you think twice,
put it in writing on the worksheet or the vehicle buyer's order,
or just your own notepad and have him sign it.
Verbal is an accident waiting to happen.
He said, she said, anything the salesman promises you
or tells you that you are not aware of,
be sure he commits it to writing.
Once he inside, he asked me for information to put in the computer,
promising to return shortly with a price.
I interrupted to ask his name, finally,
which he told me was Jack.
return a few minutes later with a pricing sheet showing a top line of $299,99.
That was a $496 discount from MSRP.
They then added sales tax and an estimate which was $474 for a tag in registration.
And that was it.
Now that's good folks.
That is good.
You people are thinking about voting.
There is no dealer fee.
And the price that he gave him is the price that he paid out the door plus tax and
tag only. He said the pricing was pretty self-explanatory and simple with no extra fees like some
competitors. That's accurate. He showed me a packet and encouraged me to read over it. When he asked
if I had any questions, I voiced my concern about the high rates, interest rates, ask if there was any
room for negotiation given the car's mileage. He sugar said explaining that the percentage rate
would adjust once they ran my credit. I agreed to this saying I would work on my driver's license,
sort it out and then be in touch.
And again, I digress to say,
you'll always want to get an interest rate from your bank
or your credit union
or, for that matter, any independent bank
that is not affiliated with a dealer.
You should never take the interest rate
or the monthly payment ordered by a car dealer.
They're usually quite high.
I asked if his phone number was on the sheet,
noticing that the salesperson listed was Jose, not Jack.
I questioned this to be to which he respect.
He was indeed the listed salesperson.
They'll call him JAC, Jack, because those are his initials.
I digress again.
Anytime you're talking to anybody in a car dealership,
give their telephone number.
Their cell phone number, not the company number.
You should have that.
If they hesitate for a minute, say,
well, you asked for my number and I gave you my cell number,
then you should reciprocate, give me your cell number.
The more numbers and the more numbers,
And the more numbers of managers, and the higher up that manager is, the less likely you're going to have any arguments if there's a dispute over what the price is or what the promises were.
Shell numbers of all the people you deal with.
So there we have it.
A Monroeney label only.
I could show you what that looks like.
And no addendum labels and no dealer fees.
And there we have it.
It's time to vote on Mullinix Ford and Constable.
semi-flora. And again, I will say this about Mullinix. They pioneered the no-dealer fee,
and we had some Mullinx dealerships after they expanded and brought in outside partial owners
that did charge dealer fees. I talked to the Mullinx family directly a few years ago about this,
and they called the dealership that had the added the dealer fee, and they changed that.
So, Molinex pioneered the no-dealer fee, the no-hidden fee, and they were, Mullinx in Fort Lauderdale
actually had this before I did, and I've had my no-dealer fee for about 20 years.
Molinx did that years before I did it.
So there we are.
Time for the votes.
We'd love to hear what you had to say.
And we grade on the curve, A, B, C, D, or F.
If they get an F, they do not go on our recommended list.
If they get anything but an F, they go on the recommendal lift with their letter score.
So the curve, meaning we find very few perfect dealers.
So if they pass, according to the average dealers that we talk to,
and you give them a passing grade.
Okay.
All right.
That's the mystery shop from Mullinix Ford in Kissimmee, folks.
Get your votes in 772-49765.
Now back to Rick.
Well, first one, Jonathan and Wellington.
I like the fact that there are no junk fees.
I'll give them a B.
They might get an A if the interest rate is great.
Okay.
Bob from Maryland.
B for Molynex Ford, upfront price,
but should have been a bigger discount for 2,400 miles on the car.
Wow, these guys are tough.
Let's see what we got here.
All right. Joseph Kelleher. A. Negan 1. A plus deal.
Steve Ward. Awesome observation. A very rare A. Tim Gillilanded Yuma. Well, that was boring. A.
Give me five bucks. A. Donovan. A. Johnny Z. Fradley. A good shopping report equals A for me.
Brian said Lacko, finally, a dealership that doesn't fee you to death.
A, myself, I'm going to ding him a bit.
I'm saying A minus, because I think Jack messed up on one thing.
He should have introduced himself properly at the beginning of his encounter with Agent Lightning,
and he goofed a bit there.
He should have given his name, at least said, hi, I'm Jack, or I'm Jose, and explained.
they call him Jack.
Okay.
Other than that, there it is.
Okay, folks, I'm going to go with the 2,400 miles that was already on the vehicle.
And for that, I would have given them, you know, an A, but I'm giving them an A-minus.
But a fabulous report.
Yeah, I just really respect the Molenex dealerships and the family, and I'm going to give them an A.
They don't come any better than Molinx Ford.
they have several dealerships
unfortunately the family
doesn't own all of them completely
I think they have ownership
in all of them
and I'm not sure whether it's majority or not
but I do know the family
I do know the dealerships
we shopped them before
if you're in Florida
and you're going to buy a Ford
you should find a Mellanix dealership
they will treat you right
and you should shop and compare
you always shop and compare a price
even with a good dealer
an honest dealer
gives you an honest price
but competition is your friend
So go to another dealer.
See if they'll beat the Althador price.
Absolutely.
And I want to thank everyone for joining us this morning.
What a fabulous show.
What a fabulous mystery shopping report.
And breaking all the records with all the females,
the ladies that called, you know,
I got to thank Amanda and Carol and Eileen and Amy and Sue.
And, well, I want to put out a special announcement.
And I just want to wish Jenny.
who used to be part of the show 20 years ago.
What a special person.
She is, it's her birthday.
So we all wish you a very happy birthday.
And gosh, you talk about the icing on the cake.
That's Jenny, just so wonderful person.
Have a fabulous day, Jenny.
She puts up with her husband, who I hear is not a very nice guy.
I didn't want to mention that.
We're talking about Jonathan, just in case you guys are curious.
And he is a real nice guy.
I was only kidding.
We were just joking. We love Jonathan.
Have a fabulous day, Jenny.
Thank you all for listening to Earl Stewart on cars.
We'll be right back here next week at the same time at 8 a.m.
Have a wonderful weekend.