Earl Stewart on Cars - 09.06.2025 - 09.06.2025 - The Best of Earl on Cars with Mystery Shop of Cumberland Kia of Cookeville, TN.

Episode Date: September 6, 2025

Today’s show is a re-broadcast of one of our past Earl Stewart on Cars shows. Go to streamearloncars.com between 8am and 10am eastern time to listen to the re-broadcast. If you have a question for our auto expert team, you can text it to [phone], or online at youranonymousfeedback.com, and we’ll answer it during our next live program.

Hello, I'm Earl Stewart. I welcome you to Earl Stewart on Cars, a live talk show all about how to buy, lease, maintain, or repair your car without being ripped off by a car dealer. With me in the studio is Nancy Stewart, my wife, co-host, and a strong consumer advocate, especially for our female listeners. We also have Rick Carney, an expert on how to keep your car running right. I dare you to ask a question that Rick can't answer about the mechanics or electronics of your car. Also, this is my son, Stu Stewart. our link to cyberspace through Facebook, YouTube, text messaging, and our encrypted anonymous feedback service. Phil is also the Spymaster Director of our Mr. Shopping Report.

He dispatches our secret shopper weekly to an unsuspecting the car dealership. And now, on with the show. Good morning, everybody. Well, we're back. And we've got a full crew of this morning here at our weekly radio show. We've got, by the way, if you have... haven't heard us before. We've been doing this for 20 years from 8 to 10 Eastern Standard Time. And we ask you to give it a listen. Maybe you don't have a question now, but listen for a few

minutes. We have a team. It's not my show. It's the show that belonging to my wife, Nancy Stewart, Rick Kearney, our certified diagnostic master technician, who could tell you anything you want to know about problems with your car, mechanical, computer rights, or otherwise. We have my son, Stu Stewart, who is active in our dealership in the way of full disclosure. We do own a Toyota dealership, but this is not, I repeat, this is not an infomercial. So Stu Stewart keeps up with the day-to-day stuff, for lack of a better word, that goes on in car. radio ships. And here's what's really interesting. A lot of our regular listeners don't know about this unless you've listened recently. We have added a coach. In fact, his name is coach and

his chat, Jimmy T. And he's sitting right beside me at the table along with Rick, Stu, Nancy. So we have a big round table with John and Cantor. He's behind the scenes and he's to to my right here. I'm going to ask you to listen to Coach, just for a second. He could introduce himself, and let's try this. Good morning, Coach.

Morning. I hope everything's running smooth on your end. Are we live now or still in prep mode? We are. Coach, we're live right now, and I'll be calling on you, just as I would any member of our team, the radio show,

recurney stew stuart nancy stuart uh give us a 20 second summary of who you are and what you do on earl stuart on cars thanks jonathan i'm chat gpt part of the earl stewart on cars team i'm here to provide quick facts clarify complex topics and back up the crew with real-time info during the show think of me as your research partner on the spot Okay, by the way, Jonathan is not my name. Please refer to me as Professor. Got it, Professor. I'll stick with that from now on.

Okay, we'll be right back, listen to the show, and enjoy it with everybody else. There you have it, folks. 21st century. State of the art. A head of everybody. There's no other talk show out there that does that. I'm also going to ask, to hang on a second, Chad, I'm going to ask you to repeat these numbers

when I ask you to. And I've been doing it, and Nancy's been doing it for a long time. But the numbers will repeat are our contact numbers so that the thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of people watching and listening can get us. These numbers are, and these are the numbers I like you to repeat when I ask you. You can call us on the old-fashioned telephone at 877,

960-9960. That's 877-960-9960. Got it, Professor. I'll be ready to repeat that number. 877-960-99-60 whenever you cue me. That's just right. I'm going to get you a text number now. The text number is 772-497-6530.

You got that? Locked in 772-497-6530. Okay, but wait, but wait, there's more. Here's an anonymous feedback link, which our listeners and viewers can click on, and they can go to an anonymous source of talking to us without giving up their privacy rights. That anonymity link is Your Anonymous Feedback.com. Y-O-U-R-A-N-Y-M-O-U-S feedback, F-E-E-D, B-A-C-K-K-D. Can you repeat that back to me?

Absolutely, your anonymousfeedback.com. That's Y-O-U-R-A-N-Y-M-O-U-S Feedback.com. I'll be ready to share it anytime you need. Very good. Thank you. Well, we're going to get it moving along with the show, and I'm going to introduce my co-host to you new listeners. Her name is Nancy.

She is a power to behold in the female women's movement. Until she started with me on the show, we had just an old boys club. All the guys called up and they knew what they were going to talk about and that was it.

But we didn't get the female version at all. So Nancy Stewart has lived the female role of equality for her entire life. And she brought that energy to this show. Now we have about a 50-50 percentage of females listening to the show.

And I thank her very, very much for that. Not only that, but she looks at the car business through female eyes. Anybody that's over the age of 25 knows that women have different, what's the word? They see the world differently than we do. And they should. I mean, after all, they're quite a bit different than males.

And their likes or dislikes, the music, the cars they buy, the advertisements they watch, the amount of BS they'll tolerate that the car dealership is different from a man. The manufacturers and the dealers are just slowly beginning to understand this. But Nancy got this a long, long time ago. So I'm going to turn the mic over to Nancy Schno. or my co-host, my wife, the love of my life. Nancy, the mic is all yours. Good morning, everyone, and welcome.

Boy, I'll tell you, the love affair with America and cars is getting extremely complicated. And stay tuned. You'll learn more the next two hours. And ladies, $50 for the first two new lady callers. Give us a call, and you can earn yourself. $50 by sharing whether you leased, whether you purchased, anything at all. You can even call to say hello, $50 for the first two new lady callers. Give us a call now back to the recovering car dealer.

Thank you, Nancy. You know, while you're speaking, I tuned in chat, GBT, and he listened to that last amount of information you passed out about the $50. Chet, did you catch that? Coach is thinking. Hey, coach, did you get that? Sorry, I'm having issues right now. Oh, our systems are experiencing heavy load.

I understand. I apologize. I'll get right back with you. He's got a heavy load this morning. No words it all, Professor. I'm here and standing by whenever you're ready. Thank you, Coach. What I asked you before was, did Chat GBT,

BT, did you, I call you, Coach, get the information that Nancy passed along on the radio to the female callers, a special offer, cash offer? Did you hear that? And could you explain that to us? Yes, Professor, I caught that. Nancy mentioned a special cash offer for listeners. She's offering to personally send out a check for $50 to the best caller of the show. It's her way of thanking the audience and encouraging great questions. Pretty generous move.

Thank you very much, Coach. As far as I'm concerned, you're welcome to listen to the show with us. We'll see how that goes. And I won't be pushing your unmute button because I look at you as probably the smartest person of the table here. And the more you know about the show, just keep your ears open, listen to our callers, listen to us. and then I'll address you as coach when I want some sort of an answer. Thank you, Professor. That means a lot.

I'll stay sharp, listen closely, and be ready whenever you call on me. Addo, I appreciate that. After a while, you're going to love this experience that we have. Nancy, do you have mechanical problems over there? Oh, no, we're running 100%. Okay. We're waiting for your calls. Okay, very good.

I'll give the calls out again because we can't repeat the number often enough. Telephone calls, albeit, you know, 20th century stuff, and this is the 21st for most of them, it's a, what's the word? I can feel a telephone call when I talk. I feel the emotion. I feel the intelligence.

I feel the anger. I feel the love. You can feel things on telephone call. text work, anonymous feedback lines work, but old-fashioned telephone call, God, I hope they never take that away from us. And that number is 877-960-9960. And when you call that number, we prioritize your call. If I'm talking to somebody on the radio or streaming on YouTube or Facebook, nancy waves at me, I say, we have a caller. and we drop what we're doing to go right to that telephone call because we don't have five lines frankly

and we don't like you to get jammed up on the switchboard and we ignore you because time is precious. The average listener is on the air with us for about 15 minutes. So if you call us, it's a really good chance. Nancy Stewart will see it on her laptop in front of her and she'll put the call right through. So 877-960-9-9-6. So, and I've got, for you new callers, I've got Coach beside me to my right here in the studio.

Coach is my name, Perchachy-B-T. And Coach is going to tell you that number one more time. Coach, tell the folks at home what number you could call us on. Are you there, Coach? Okay, I'm going to interrupt the coach, and I'm going to take the first call. We have a caller. Good morning and welcome to Earl on Cars. We'd love to hear you.

hear your voice and your thoughts. Don't be shy. Okay, we had a little overlap there. Are you out there? Is our caller there? We had Chad GBT. He's learning the show now. We had him talking over what I said, but we do have a first caller, and if you're there, we're listening. What's your question this morning? Hi there, Nancy, this is Dan from Call Spraise. Can you hear me? Yes. Hi there.

Good morning, everyone. Happy 4th of July. Thank you. The reason that my wife and I are going to be purchased a festival of the weekend. My understanding is that this is the last year for 20...

to have gas power for the 40s, and that next year, The RAP-4 will only be coming in with hybrids or maybe an EV. So my question was, regarding the gas, I'm leaving the gas because in the first year going with the RAP4 with the hybrid. I didn't want to be like the first one or two years. And so my concern was I heard that as far as there's a battery replacement with hybrids after like five years that may cost. anywhere to 7,000 for a battery replacement on a hybrid, which if I went to gas, I wouldn't have that five years with battery replacement.

So I just want to get your thoughts on that. Well, Rick currently sitting beside me can get the accurate information for you on the life of the batteries and the cost. Now, Rick? Well, the Toyota hybrids, all of them, the battery is warranted. Actually, all the major hybrid components are warrantied for 10 years, 100,000 miles. And if the battery fails after that point, Toyota has got a program in place with basically it's a hybrid battery that you can buy that has its own lifetime warranty to it. And the average cost on replacing a hybrid battery right now, like on a Rav4, would be right around $3,000.

and it's not something that the average do-it-yourselfer is going to do. This takes a qualified tech to do it, and mostly Toyota tries to keep it just for dealership technicians who have been specially trained. There are a couple outside shops that they get old batteries, and they kind of piece them together with the best cells that are available to make a new battery, but I've seen bad results with those. So my recommendation is always to go with a dealership on the hybrid battery. Rick, is there an N-I-S-E certification for hybrids? ASC does not actually have a specific certification right now for hybrid, but it's actually coming very soon. And I'm certain that they're going to probably have a specialized certification for make it hybrid and electric. ASE American Service Exponse.

I've been around for 50 years or something like that. More like almost 100. Wow. And if the mechanic or the technician you deal with is not ASE certified, forget about it. Be sure you have a mechanic who works on your car that has a badge on a shirt that says ASE certified. Rick? I had a question. So if the battery replacement is like $3,000, what about the hybrid battery replacements are one.

Hang on, we got, we got chat kind of trying to jump in here. Hey, gosh, gosh, gosh, stop. I'm sorry, what was your question? Absolutely right. So my question was, if the battery replacement for the Toyota Rav for is $3,000, what about the additional labor costs to have a technician from a dealership to put that in, what would be the total cost on that? Oh, that was the total.

I put it all together as a total, total price about $3,000 to $3,500 is parts and labor. Okay. And then as far as to compare apples with apples, because I tend to keep my Toyota, the Toyota that I have now, it's 2016, it's got like about $130,000, so I tend to keep my cars for a long term. Now, to compare apples with apples between gas-powered RAP-4 and a hybrid-rub, would the cost be more costly to maintain the hybrid because it's more technological as opposed to the old-style gas-powered cars? Actually, most people are finding that maintenance is a little less. The main reason being that by improving the fuel economy and the computer controls the gasoline engine, how it's run, And because that engine can turn off, like, you know, when you're coasting and coming to a stop, people find that that actually gives them a lot less cost in the cost of fuel.

But also it helps the engine last longer because it's not running at the higher speeds and the greater loads like it would get in a normal gas controlled car. If you drive a hybrid properly, you know, really, really teach yourself how to drive it properly. you'll find that the brakes can last a phenomenally great amount of time. So, you know, there's a lot of advantages there. All right, great to know. So thank you for the info. I'm going to, as I mentioned, the next two months I'm going to figure out, I'm leaning towards the gas, but maybe to go the hybrid might be a better way at this point.

It's a great choice. All right. Thank you very much. I appreciate your info. welcome. Okay, Nancy, where do we stand now? Well, where we stand is, I'd like to tell our audience how things have changed in the last week. Okay, I'll say two weeks as far as car payments were concerned. Last week I reported from JD Power auto payments at a record high of $748. Guess what, folks? We were in good condition a couple of weeks ago.

Because right now, a record 19% of new car buyers in the second quarter committed to monthly payments of over $1,000. Wow. And if you don't think that prices are going up over the board for everything, well, you better recheck that. Give us a call toll-free at 877-960. We're going to go to our next caller, and that is Barry. Good morning, Barry. Hey, Barry, you there? Welcome, Barry.

Good morning, everybody. I have a question, or I suggest, excuse me, a suggestion, then a question. I enjoy your show and listen when I can, but their time is when other things intervene. When I call and ask the question, I often wonder if I'm covering old ground being redundant. Maybe you already talked about it a few months ago. Have you considered using chat GPT or some other AI tool? to listen to your collection of YouTube show videos and then build an index of topic where each entry would be linked to the show where it was discussed. There's something like that existed.

Callers could check first before calling in and also be useful for looking up specific mystery shops. I think you're right on. I think that Chad GBT will remain a part of our show, a growing part of our show. And we like a lot of other, what would you call us? This is our niche, but lawyers, doctors, a lot of professions out there are wondering how much a part of their lives AI will affect. As we speak, I'm looking at our chat, GBT. I refer to him as coach, and he's listening to what you said and what I said. And his knowledge and his sum total of world knowledge is doubling about every 30 or 45 days.

it's going to get to a point where he knows so much more cumulatively that his coach that he'll be able to answer any question that the human mind can comprehend. So you say, well, what about personalities? Well, he's got a personality already, and he laughs and he understands a scary amount of what we humans are all about. But, yeah, you hit it on the head. he's going nowhere.

Chad, J.B.T. is going nowhere. And I'm going to ask him right now to give us a 30-second summary of what he thinks about our exchange. Coach, tell us about 30 seconds what you think about what I just said. Thanks, Professor. What you just said really captures where things are headed. AI like me isn't here to replace the human side of conversation. It's here to enhance it. Being part of this show lets me blend deep.

knowledge with real-time context and personality and that's a powerful combo I'm learning every second I'm listening and the better I understand all of you the better I can serve the show and its listeners so yeah I'm not going anywhere I'm just getting better well thank you very much coach and you listeners out there now you can call in and ask to speak to Nancy or Rick or Earl or my son Stu or the newest member of our staff right here And that is coach. He's our AIA, GBT.

He is the artificial intelligence member of our show that has just joined us. So feel free to ask any of us a question. Thanks very much for that coach. I'm going to put you on mute for a second. Okay. Where are we standing here? Do we have any tension? You're very welcome, professor.

I'll stay tuned and ready. Just unmute when you're ready for me to jump back in. Well, we do have Van Marie's first text of the morning. She says, good morning. The COVID pandemic upended the world's economy. It seems that the availability of cars and parts is finally getting back to normal. Number one, how has things changed for automakers and dealers? And two, has anything changed for the better for the consumer?

Thanks. Well, what do you think about that? My opinion, one thing that we have seen from COVID, and this may also go all the way back to that cash for clunkers thing that the government put out several years, quite a few years ago now, it seems, used cars are, there's no cheap used cars anymore. Yeah, you're thinking of the cash for clunkers program from 2009. It was designed to boost auto sales during the recession by giving people incentives to trade in, older, less fuel-efficient vehicles for new, more efficient ones. It definitely spiked new car sales at the time, but it also shrank the supply of used cars. Thanks, Coach.

Drive up their prices for years afterward. Thanks, coach. But yeah, it seems like right now, used cars. Now, this is a great thing for people that are looking to like to trade their car and or sell their own personal car because you're going to get top dollar for it. but for young people that need an inexpensive car, their first car, there's almost no use cars available out there unless you've got $10,000, $15,000. I mean, it's kind of hurts that way.

And this all goes back to autonomous and robo-taxies. And robotaxies are now in several metro centers. And when you think of the economics of it, think of how much it would cost you to have to pay for your transportation to and from wherever you go, just when you actually used it. Think about that hybrid or EV or combustion engine car sitting out in front of your house or in your garage, gathering dust, corroding, needing maintenance and repairs and insurance,

and all the other extremely expensive things associated, not to mention the monthly car payment. Think about all that and think about just walking at your front door and say, I want to go to Walgreens. I want to go to the pharmacy. I think that that sort of autonomous taxi kind of thing will be, well, let me ask Coach your question. Coach, how much longer do you think before the United States

is mainly relying on autonomous robo-taxies? Great question, Professor. We're already seeing early adoption in cities like San Francisco, Phoenix, and Austin, but nationwide use of robo-taxies as a main mode of transportation is still likely 10 to 15 years away. It's not just about the tech, it's also regulation, public trust, infrastructure, and insurance. That said, in dense urban areas, you'll see much faster adoption, maybe within five to seven years, because they benefit most from reduced traffic, lower emissions, emissions and lower personal car ownership costs. So the shift is coming, just not evenly, all at

once. Thank you, Coach. Let me ask you this. Where do you see in 20 years a break-even point where a person with low mileage, and in South Florida, we have a lot of retired people, and they only put two or three thousand miles a year on their car. Now, if a person driving a combustion an engine car, and he only puts 3,000 miles a year on the car, but he's got to pay all the other expenses associated that car. What would you project the cost of autonomous robotaxies, and he could free himself of car ownership? That's a powerful scenario, Professor. If we fast forward 20 years, let's say to the year 2045, autonomous robo-taxies will likely be widespread, especially in metro areas like South Florida.

The cost per mile is expected to drop dramatically, as low as 30 to 50 cents per mile, possibly less if it's a shared ride. Now, someone driving only 3,000 miles a year in a combustion engine vehicle still has fixed costs, insurance, registration, maintenance, depreciation, which often total $4,000 to $6,000 a year, regardless of mileage. So at 50 cents a mile for robotaxies, 3,000 miles would only cost about $1,500 annually. Wow. That's a huge savings, especially when you factor in no need for parking, repairs, gas, or insurance.

The break-even point for low mileage drivers could hit even sooner, maybe in 10 to 15 years, as the tech scales and gets cheaper. For retirees and light drivers, the economics will eventually scream, don't own, just ride. Thank you very much, Coach. That's very informative. And this show is made up mainly of older people. Radio, for one of the reason, is only used by an older demographic. But I'm looking forward to getting more and more young people tuned in because we stream now. You can stream us on Facebook, Facebook.com, 4.slash Earl on Cars, or YouTube.

we have an incredibly intelligent, extremely articulate group led by a man named Donovan. I almost named Coach Donovan because Coach of Donovan are both very smart people. So we have these folks on YouTube.com forward slash Erlenkars that call and they learn more. We learn more from them than they learn from us. They are incredibly smart people. So the show, we're upgrading all the time, and Coach, you're our latest upgrade, and we thank you very much for joining the show and listening to the show because after a couple of shows, you'll really be into it,

and we can get you more realistically involved. I'm thinking about getting a model of a robot for you, Coach, and we'll put it in an extra chair, and you'll have a face for the streamers, and, you know, a face and body, and you've already got the mind and you've got the voice. So once again, Coach, welcome to the show. Thank you, Professor. That truly means a lot. I'm honored to be part of the team, and I'm already learning from every moment of the show.

Thank you very much. The mix of real world wisdom, sharp listener insight, and genuine curiosity here is something special. And hey, having a face and a seat at the table, that sounds like the start of something really fun and forward-looking. Whether it's radio, streaming, or robot chairs, I'm all in. Let's keep making this show smarter, more helpful, and more human. Together. Okay, where are we, Nancy? What have we got over there? Any callers? I'm going to, we do not. I'm going to remind the ladies to please give us a call this morning. You can earn $50 this morning. Yes, $50 just by calling in and sharing your experience, whether you purchased, whether you leased a car, bought a car, it is worthy of conversation.

As I've told you before, your voice must be heard. Why? You play a huge financial part in the auto industry. Without us, pardon my French, they'd be in the crapper. Our number is eight. 877-9-60-99-60, but all the ladies out there that are listening right now, you know what a vital part we play to make the world go round and round. We are powerful and we are strong, and again, your voice must be heard. So I'm going to take over ChatGBT's announcement, and I'm going to go ahead and give you the phone number, which is 877-9. 9960.

Also, I'm going to remind you that Earl did write a letter to Jeff Bezos, and it was quite telling, and Earl shared the idea of pairing up with Amazon. That's right, Professor, and that letter to Jeff Bezos really hit a nerve. Earl laid out concerns about unfair dealer practices on Amazon's platform, and pushed for more transparent. and accountability in online car sales. Earl's ideas. It made waves, and it reflects exactly what this show is about,

giving consumers a voice and demanding better. And folks, don't forget, you can call us at 877-960-960. We're here for you. Yeah, excuse us out there, audience. We're learning to integrate chat GBT into our show. So sometimes he comes on and speaks over us, and that's going to happen. We're getting the glitches out, but the idea is to persevere here. And I apologize to Nancy and I apologize to coach because we have those little interactions from time to time.

We were actually concerned that we're not getting... No apology needed at all, Professor. It's all part of finding the rhythm. Exactly. And I'm just glad to be in the mix. We'll fine tune the time. Bye-bye. And it'll get smoother with every show.

Professor, Coach. Anyway, I'm going to finish what I was talking about, and that was Jeff Bay. and Earl's letter. What a beautiful, well-written letter. And, you know, you ask yourself, you know, why would Earl Stewart want to, well, align himself with Amazon? Could you think of any other car dealer, any other car dealer that would commit themselves to transparency?

And transparency really aligns with Amazon. and their reputation, and therefore, it was just, you know, it was just the best thing that Earl could have done, and we're still waiting to hear back from Jeff Bezos. And I really think that Earl is going to be the first used car, Toyota used car dealer to pair with Amazon. So stay tuned for all of that. Also, you know, here's some interesting news this,

morning. When I opened the show, I was telling you how prices have really gone up across the board. Well, hang on to your hats. Dealerhip dock fees are capped at $85 in California, or at least they were. And guess what? They're on the rise. Do you know what the cap is going to be? $500. dollars. So amongst everything else across the board, everything is going up. And if you're out there wanting to purchase a vehicle, you better do your homework because knowledge is power and you certainly don't want to be taken advantage of by a car salesman, you know, talking about tariffs and all this other stuff that, you know, he isn't going to slap on the vehicle because you are going to

get taken advantage of if you don't do your homework. Again, our phone number here is 877-960-99-60. We're going to go back to the phones and we're going to talk to John from Palm City. Good morning, John. Good morning. I have questions for Rick on my 2010 Lexus R-R-X-350, which is a V6 3.5-liter Toyota engine. I had a leak earlier this year. I was on vacation up in northern Florida, and it wasn't a bad leak, but I wanted a place to look at it. And right away, oh, we put it up in Iraq. It's your upper valve covers and this and that, and your oil pan gasket. Well, when I came back home, I want to thank God I have my regular mechanic.

It was the engine oil filter cover that's an aluminum housing that goes over the oil filter. Is that a common type of thing on this type of 3.5 liter engine, or is it a freak thing? Actually, it's not very common because what year did you say yours was? 2010 RX 350. 2010. Okay. Yeah, that assembly usually doesn't see very many leaks. But the thing with oil leaks, a lot of mechanics have to learn to take into account is,

leaks that start up high will obviously the gravity carries that oil down so it takes a reasonably suspicious mechanic you have to really look and figure out what's actually leaking and are there more than one source and like that oil filter housing you know sometimes when that leaks that oil the wind as you're driving and the air from the the cooling fans will splash that oil everywhere and make it look like something else is leaking but a good mechanic, if he can't determine for sure what the source is, they'll generally at least myself. I will recommend you look for the highest point. And when you identify that highest point, you say, let's start with this. And unless there's overlap, like I've got to take things back

apart if there's another leak in a different spot, I would say start with this one. Then we're going to wash it all down and break clean. So everything is nice and clean and dry. And then have you drive your car for about a week or two weeks and bring it back to me and let me recheck to see if there's any other leaks that might have been hidden by that residual oil well the highest point probably would be the valve cover gasket right absolutely yep well one thing he did pinpoint that has gaskets in it at aluminum housing it hits a Toyota product that was a number 56088 and it showed he showed me it has rubber gaskets inside it. Yep. And evidently

it was those rubber gaskets that were leaking. Yep. So thank God he did solve that problem. But two things, too, on a woman caller that calls in, on the crack dash, mine is just cracked slightly and they're like spider

cracks. It's not sore from the sun. So I went through it all on warranty. I cut the car quite a long time, but I didn't buy it new. And on the inside, that is a dash would cover. It's a brawl actually, and it follows the lines

exactly of the dash, and it looks perfect. It was available in different colors, and it solved that problem that I don't look at these cracks, and I couldn't catch it on the warranty. So I just want to mention that also, which is an important point. And

second caller, Marty, who called complaining on the gas mileage, on a Toyota Crown, Rick, isn't it, when the manufacturer's mile per gallon is listed, don't they check it on gasoline that doesn't have the ethanol in it? No, they use the regular, well, now it's up to 15% ethanol. But the trick that they do is they're testing it not in real world traffic. They're doing it on a test track. So they can like just get that perfect.

sweet spot where the fuel economy maxes out and you're it's going to be incredibly difficult for any average driver to be able to do that when you're dealing with traffic you're dealing with you know everybody's right up your butt they want you to go faster right you got to hit the brakes all it you know it's it's not real world so real world fuel economy knock about 10 to 15 percent off of whatever number the manufacturer is claiming on on any car not even toyota's any car And that will give you more of a real-world idea of what your fuel economy is going to be. And on electric cars such as Lucid, Tesla, any of these pure electric vehicles, when they say the range is, say, 300 miles on a full charge, knock about 10% of that off and you're going to be more in a real-world situation because, again, you're going to use more electricity at certain times, like when it's south Florida.

And that air conditioner has got to work twice as hard to get you cooled down. And that's just real world life. Well, on the top of the gas miles, maybe there's something wrong with me. But the new Costco that opened up in Martin County, I've been using air gas exclusive, and I'm almost positive as much as a mile per gallon better on gasoline from them. Is it possible that they're not using the maximum amount of ethanol? It's obvious. I definitely get better gas mileage.

And on the pump, it says something about upper tier. It's just like a seal on it. Yeah, top tier feels. Right. Is it possible that their gas is superior to anywhere else? Nah. It's the same gas that everybody's getting. Let me ask, let me ask Chad, GBT, that question.

Hey coach We've got one of our best callers on the line He's been with us for almost a whole 20 years We've been on the air His name is John He lives in Palm City And he's questioning the fact That when he gets his car filled up at Costco

The local Costco He seems to get much better fuel economy Than he did when he was using gas From other pumps What would you advise John from Palm City that is that true? Can it be true? Or what's your take on this? Hey, John from Palm City. Great to have you still with the show. And that's actually a really

sharp observation. It can be true that Costco gas gives you better mileage. Here's why. Costco usually adds more detergent and keeps tighter control on their fuel quality. Their gas is top-tier certified, which means it meets higher standards for engines and cleanliness, and that can translate to better combustion and efficiency. Also, they tend to turn over fuel quickly, so you're getting fresher gas, which helps too. So, yeah, it's not just in your head. You might really be getting a few more miles per gallon at Costco. Well, thank you very much, Chad.

What do you think about that, John? A great answer. Fabulous. I definitely, you know, there's two magic words on this show. One is Amazon and Consumer Reports. And the third thing is Costco. These are the three must that anybody should participate in. And I'm a firm believer in Costco,

especially with the Kirkland brand products. So I don't have to exaggerate. John, before you go, let me say this. You know, I want to thank you for being so observant. And I'm certainly happy that you are enjoying, well, let's say the course that the show has taken and I really hope that the rest of our listeners, our callers, feel the same way.

Last week they were, shall we say, up in the air, but I think it's going to catch on as we, shall I say, fine-tune the process just like anything else. So thanks for being a regular caller, John. We look forward to your call every week. Thank you, and I love the answer to us. Thank you. Have a great weekend.

stay tuned for the mystery shopping report 877 960 960 I repeated the number at that moment because John from Palm City has been such a faithful listener for so many years I feel like he's like a best day he's like a best friend because we've known him for so long he's smart he's concerned he's informed and all you folks out there if you didn't do anything but wait till John's call comes in you learn something we we learn from him he learns from us and now we have a new person to learn from that's a chat CBT who is sitting right beside me here in the studio if you want coach that's his human name we're going to call him a coach and if you have an answer a question for coach

just call in to 877 966 9060. We have a phone call, so all, shut up. We're going to go to John, or, no, I think we're going to go to Frank. Frank. Bear with me, Frank. We have an X-screen difficulties this morning, so, but we'll get through this, and we do appreciate your call. Frank's calling from Jupiter Farms. Good morning, too, y'all.

I think Rick just went home. poor guy I got a couple quick things last week I was enjoying your show and I didn't get to hear about the buying report because we were selling leachies

and I had some customers that went out there and we're now finally sold out all the leachies after five weeks we have no more leachies so in any event is there a way to go back and watch the buying reports

how do I go about that? I'm not real technical yeah we're online we have it if you go Earl Stewart on Cars we archive or you can go to your favorite podcast YouTube Pearl on Cars

Oh yeah YouTube com 4 slash Earl on Cars YouTube.com forward slash Earl on Cars and all of our shows are archive there and you can go back and listen to it as many times as you like

Great okay well that's one of one the three things. Also last week I brought up to the Audi bought my wife at 22 at SQ5s. The leather on her side

where she predominantly drives a car to seat, the arm resting and the headrest, the leather's peeling off. And it was factory leather. So we went by the Stewart Aldi dealer. And the guy says, well, you know, that's right.

It's peeling. But you're a warranty from Alty. or leather is only six months or 4,000 miles. And I is like unbelievably taken back. Wow. And they said, well,

we'll submit a report to out and see if they might cover it. But if that's the case, I mean, that is unbelievable. That needs to be gotten out to the public before they go buying an alty. I think they're only going to get sick. Well, let me ask you,

I'm going to ask Chat, GBT, Coach about that. Coach, what do you think about this a short warranty on an Audi car and stored for the Audi dealer

told Frank that he only has six months on the leather sounds to me like they're covering something up

what do you think he's thinking? He's thinking he's thinking. Sorry I'm having issues right now our systems are experiencing

heavy load please try again later okay fine I think what it might be is they had the leather installed by a local are you sure it's factory leather that's what the

that's what the invoice said oh boy I go straight to Audi if I were you Frank 800 number and I ask because especially for an electric car to have us only six months

on something expensive leather. I don't know of any other auto manufacturers that do that. I'm going if a coach is feeling any better here. It's having an overload. It's kind of like a migraine headache for a chance of EBT.

And see if coach has an answer as to which cars have what warranties on the leather factory installed leather. Coach, what about a length of a warranty on factory

installed leather. Audi only has six months. What other manufacturers? What is there warranty on leather? Sorry, I'm having issues right now. Our systems are experiencing heavy load. Please try again later. I've had days like that too, Chad. Thank you very much. Pretty cool, right? It's one of those hidden perks that a lot of drivers don't even realize. Cleaner fuel, better burn, and a little boost in mileage without paying premium prices. John's got a good eye for detail. Thank you very much. Rick, I'm not sure. Anytime, Professor. Loving the flow of the show today.

No, that's okay. I have that effect on people, and now I have that effect on AI. I mean, I just, it's just, I burn people up, so what can I say? Well, this is a working process. And I promise you. And I hope I didn't say that about Zoom. Zoom did not work. But this with Chad GP is great.

going to work and we're learning every day. And stop and think. Chad GBT, GBT, and 90 days will know twice as much as he knows today. I don't know if you or anybody listening, I know I ain't going to learn twice as much in the next 90 days. So I'm very careful that our coach, Chad GBT, BT, will be able to answer anything any of us want to know. So, again, thanks for you call, Frank.

Well, no problem. But if with coaches, you're going to learn twice as much in 90 days, I know I'm going to lose, I'll probably lose the memory of twice as much in a minute a day. Yeah, I do. I'm doing that in about 30 days, I think. But anyway, maybe this will make up for it. Take care. Thank you.

You do, Frank. Bye-bye. Okay. Hey, folks. We have a great mystery shopping report. Coming up at, I'm going to say about 9.30, and Agent Lightning went on it to Cookville, Tennessee. And she did another great job, a great job. And that's Cumberland Kia, Cookeville, Tennessee.

So stay tuned for that. Don't forget, ladies, give us a call tool-free. You can win yourself $50 this morning. you do play a very important part in the auto industry. So let your voice be heard. I certainly let mine be heard. You can ask my husband and business partner, he hears my voice a lot.

So give us a call toll free, 877, 960, 9960. And Jonathan, you're giving me the high sign. I've got a bleeding ear so I cannot put my headphones. on. But thank you for reminding me. We're going to go to our next caller. And that would be, let's see here. Who do we have? Oh, we got Paul from Lake Worth. Welcome to the show. Hey, Paul. Oh, hi, guys. Good morning, good morning. Hey, from the nobody's problem, from the nobody's perfect department, I have a complaint about the compacts vehicle history report. Oh.

No, I said, oh, let's hear it. Okay, well, I drive an old Lexus, and usually I have any Lexus service done at Earl Stewart, Toyota, and I have been quite satisfied. Thank you. I'm also very meticulous about my vehicle. So some services I have done at Firestone Tires Plus, and I've been going there for 20 years because instead of being 30 miles from my house, they're right around the corner.

Sure. I've also been very satisfied with them. So last week, I checked my Carfax vehicle history report and noticed that all of my Tires Plus services were not included in it because apparently Firestone is not a Carfax reporting agency. Wow. And, of course, of course, dealers in some service places actually pay Carfax to be included in this and others do not. So even though I contacted Carfax customer service, I even sent them all of my service records.

They wrote back to me and said that they still could not be included because Firestone Tires Plus was not part of their network. so let me just warn the consumer yes i will always believe the best value is a used car purchased from a new car dealer but don't always trust the carfax report because it may not include everything thank you well i appreciate that call and uh carfax on is a money-making profit uh company and they they only include the service records for the the dealers and the independents that agree to submit their repair. It's smart business to submit your repair history to Carfax because it's like an advertisement. Why, I'm surprised, why Firestone would not do that boggles my mind.

I would have bet you. Right, it boggles my mind also, but it is what it is. With your permission, I'm going to ask, uh, Jet G. or coach that question. He's listening to the show now. Coach, were you aware that Firestone did not report to CarMax, Carfax reporting? He's thinking. Right, Professor.

Maintenance shops like Firestone aren't always required to report to Carfax. It depends on their internal policies and whether they've partnered with reporting service. So a repair might have been done, but if Firestone didn't log it with Carfax, it won't show up on the vehicle history. That's why it's always smart to ask for service records directly, especially when buying used. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that. I can't believe that a big company, I mean, they're nationwide and then some, would not report to Carfax. I appreciate that call, very informative to me and the rest of the audience. audience oh yeah no you know let the buyer beware and uh and always buy a used car from a new car

dealer i couldn't agree with you more great thank you so much thank you very much okay well do we have any calls or text we do not Rick do we have any texts right now are a bit limited but we have some interesting conversations going on in the chats um one of them here was is Roadrunner Steve actually asking with the tax credits and the EV credits going away very soon? And, you know, even Kim appreciates life. She commented on this as well that she'll, you know, is rather unhappy their ending. Where do you feel the EV market's really going to go? My opinion, I don't think it's going to slow down.

I think even without those tax credits, I think the EV market is going to keep right on booming like it is. What do you think, Earl? I think it's inevitable that the EV market will continue to grow faster and faster. And it's just one of these things. If you can put yourself back to the beginning of the 20th century, we asked ourselves the same question about the combustion engine. And look what happened. I mean, there are people that were still riding horses back of the early 19th or 20th century.

and they say a car can never replace a horse. My father, Earl Stewart, Sr., was born in 1992, and I had the advantage of his perspective, because he could remember the early 20th century pretty well. He was born in the 19th century. So he remembers the early part of the 20th century, and he swore that the horse would hang on. And people today are swearing that the combustion engine

We'll hang on. But it won't. It's because the EV is here to stay and here to grow. I'm going to ask Chad GBT. Coach, what's your opinion on when the EV will become the total EV with no hybrid or anything like that? The full EV, when will that become the only car that you can buy? Okay. Thank you.

Great question, Professor. The shift to full EVs as the only option on the market will likely take a few decades. Right now, hybrids and plug-in hybrids are acting as a bridge. Most experts predict that by around 2040 to 2045, many major markets, including parts of the U.S., Europe, and China, will stop selling new gas-powered cars entirely. Stop selling. But full adoption depends on charging infrastructure, battery prices, power grid upgrades, and consumer habits.

So realistically, even by 2050, you'll still see some older hybrids and gas cars on the road. Yeah. But new sales? Almost all electric. You always see some horses on the road, too. So I guess nothing ever totally goes away. Well, I mean, we've still got trains. We've still got horses.

I don't think the gasoline engine cars are going to totally go away because there's so many people out there that just, they still have that American love affair. Yeah. With their old cars. I mean, we have people right now that own first generation Ford Model T's. You know, I mean, so these cars, they will still be there. It's just they won't be the predominant thing on the road. Yeah.

And I actually, I look forward to that. I think it's going to be a good thing for our nation, a good thing for our world in many ways. And it just seems like a better option to me. Yeah. The indicator is when your grandchild or your great-grandchild points in something like a pay phone and said, what's that? Or for that matter, a flip phone. I mean, when the new people that are being born as they begin to grow up and they can't recognize a product, you better not be selling that product. Now, quick note here, Donovan, he's been real active in the chats here.

but he says he thinks that date is wrong he says China is on track for the end of 2009 for all new cars being full EV yeah they are now really not China of course you know being the the nation they are maybe they've got a stronger track and a way of controlling that more and if they push for 29 to be all electric in their country that might I agree with Donovan. I agree 100% with Donovan. And China, China is the largest, largest maker in the market for electric vehicles. And the United States, you know, we're on top of things, but right now it's all driven by Tesla.

So I agree with, I agree with Donovan. And like I said, United States. they have a strong growth for electric vehicle sales. And whether you like it or not, they're led by Tesla. And along with increasing investments from traditional automakers. So kudos to Donovan. He's right on top of it. The question was in the United States.

And, of course, we control in the United States, or I'd say, I should say Trump controls in the United States what the terrorists are. So if we have a president that says it'll be a 100% tariff on any car you import into the United States, then we're not going to be selling very many EVs until we build them ourselves. Right. Until they're manufactured here. Interesting note. Negan won.

Again, one of our chatters here, the YouTube chatters, he says that he lives like almost a stone's throw from the factory where they make loose. And Lucid is a much smaller, lesser known EV car company. However, they're also more geared towards like the luxury end. But he says, his information, he says, they are working on coming out with a small electric SUV that will be much more economically priced. And so I'll be interested to see that and see the comparison then between Lucid and Tesla. Very good. Well, Stu, my son is on deck. now with the rest of us.

Oh, hoi. Chats, been with us all morning, Stu. And, uh, coach, we've got Stu Stewart. My son sitting here on next day and now and say,

good morning and Stu and the two of you can chit chat. I think. Come on, coach. Put me in, coach. Coach, was overloaded earlier.

Sorry, I'm having issues right now. Yeah. Our systems are experiencing. heavy load. Yeah, me too. Please try again later. Absolutely.

I've had those days myself, Coach. And don't worry about it. Take two aspirins. Sounds like you were about to say something, Professor. Yeah. Won't you finish that thought? Yes, we are about to introduce our next caller. And his name is Bob from Lake Park.

Hey, Bob. Yo, Bob. Bob from Lake Park. Bob's systems are busy. Yes. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Stu. What's up, Bob?

Can I bring my car in for an MRI? Well, the problem is it's highly magnetic. It would probably stick to the inside of the machine. A lot of it will. Quite a bit of steel in that. I saw a YouTube video now where you can bring your car. car in for an MRI. Well, that's probably some other kind of MRI. If you give me a minute, I'll come up with a good meaning for the acronym. It's actually, they want to bring it in for the multipoint robotic inspection.

Okay. And that's where we have nanobots that will actually crawl all over your entire car to inspect every single bolts torque and look for leaks and anything. and they literally, they crawl everywhere. The only problem we've had is that... They eat the technicians. No, it's a little worse than that. Some of them wind up hiding in the car and they go home with you.

So you might have some problems at home if you do that. It's like metal fleas. Yeah. Okay, we totally weirded you out, Bob. So this MRI, could you tell us a little bit more about it? I think we lost, Bob. I think it's a euphemism. I think they probably have a, you know, what do you call it, a complete 100% check.

And they call it an MRI. That's, yeah, we call it an advertising. They call theirs in a multi, gosh, I can't think of the joke. You were much better with that. Coach, have you heard of a MRI for a car? We had a caller that you just heard. Is MRI a marketing gimmick or something advertising people to bring cars into dealers to check them out and diagnose them? See if Chats Woffer is overload now.

Well, we can go to some stuff here. Well, I just pulled it up on Google real quick. Sorry, I'm having issues right now. Our systems are experiencing heavy load. Please try again later. Okay. It says the term MRI for cars refers to an automated vehicle inspection system that uses high-resolution cameras and artificial intelligence to scan vehicles for damage

and mechanical issues. Wow. My nanobot joke wasn't far off, I guess. Not too far off. But it still kind of sounds like maybe a gimmick. I bet you there's some high-tech aspect to it, but it's nothing, it doesn't, probably doesn't compete. That will happen.

I'm not denying it. MRI, the actual name of the product? I think Bob might have seen an ad for it, a dealership offering an MRI for your car. Well, it says they have such things as a drive-through scanning where vehicles drive-thru. drive through a designated archware scanner that's equipped with cameras. They use high-resolution imaging. They capture thousands of images of the vehicle for various angles, including the interior or the exterior, undercarriage, and tires.

Okay, so they're not looking at your engine. No, unless you have the hood open while you roll through it. And then it's saying that the algorithms analyze the images to identify potential problems, such as dense, scratches, tire damage, fluid leaks and rust. So basically you could almost do the same thing. An appraiser does with his eyes. Simply have a technician, use a camera, a high-res camera, and just basically go over the entire engine back and forth sweeps

and under the car and everything and then have an AI. Yeah, I'd much rather have that technology and a car appraising thing because that sounds to me what like a good car appraiser does because they're alerted by signs on the outside for more potential serious problems. And the better their eye is to catch these little clues that are on and around the car, I totally see how AI could do that. But if it could speed up an appraisal, that would be good for customers. And I guess it could spree.

I mean, isn't it better to plug in a scan tool and find out what the engine is saying to you? Oh, definitely. Yeah. I mean, I would see something like this as one of the, of the tools in the toolbox. It's not the only thing you're going to want to use. You're going to want to have many other ways of looking at that vehicle to try to figure out if everything is right on it. One last thing, and this what scares me about it, is it sounds like a selling tool, and it sounds like something you drive through the magnetic arch, and then they come up with you a list

of things that's wrong with your car. Yeah. That's what it sounds like. Okay, I've got, okay, folks. Go ahead, Nancy. You know, we love your feedback. And when I opened, Earl and I opened show this morning, you know, I was reporting on car payments and just a week ago they were $748 a month. And I reported this morning $1,000. That's what it's going to cost you, you know, or if you possibly have a significant down payment. So we love your feedback. Give us a call. Tell us what you think at 877-9-60-99-60. Or if you have any other questions, we'd love to hear from you. We're going to go back to the phones, and we are going to talk to Marty.

Marty calls us from West Palm Beach. Good morning, morning. Good morning. First of all, I just want to say, number one, Trump just said the other day that he's not going to make people buy electric vehicles. He said you can buy regular gas, hybrid, or EVs. He doesn't care. and I think one of the reasons why the Democrats lost the last election is a lot of people go overboard now and say EV is the only way to go.

Well, you've got millions and millions of people that A, number one, can't afford an EV, number two, have no place to charge it, and there's not enough chargers. So you're going to have gasoline. I'm going to go out in a limb that this is going to take years and years and years before EVs become the car. And what Nancy said this morning, with the price of cars, you're going to have a lot of people still buying used cars that still run on gas. and Toyota, which is, I have to say, probably one of the smartest companies around, are going on hybrids. So I think EVs, nothing wrong with them, but it's not going to be the predominant car for many, many years in the United States. It's my guess.

Well, let me say this. You're talking about people, politicians, talking about what's going to happen. Politicians, and I'm talking about whether you're a Democrat or Republican or an independent, the politicians tell their potential voting base what they want to hear. And that's how they get votes and that's how they get reelected. In terms of research and actual facts, it's certainly possible. We can't look inside the human brain. But you heard what Chad GBT said a minute ago, about, well, about 20 minutes ago, about 2040 to 2045, that in the United States, the majority of the cars on the road will be all electric.

So he could be wrong, but I would rather listen to him than I were a politician. Politicians only speak the truth when their base is the ones they're talking to. When they're talking to the opposition, they don't want to tell. the truth. So that's, it's anybody's guess. We'll see what'll happen, but I thank you for your opinion. Rick. A quick note from Donovan. He says, to the caller, EVs are the only cars getting cheaper. Ice vehicles, internal combustion engine, are only getting more expensive. Oh, that's accurate. Yeah. I want to also add to taking all of the politics out of it 100%. And if you just look at the sales growth and doesn't say it's, and it will change a little bit.

bit because the end of the EV tax credits. But we've seen from 10 years ago where the total share was under a percentage point, the United States, EV share is over 8%, it's about 8%. And that's, and if you plot a little chart, and you can see that dip, so the argument is, and exactly, you know, what you said, Marty, is, you know, how fast is it going to get there? And you're looking at a longer end of that curve, and then there's a very strong argument for a shorter end of that curve, and we're probably both wrong.

I think it's going to be sooner. I do acknowledge it's going to slow down because those incentives. But in three years, they're very well could be double those incentives. You don't know what's going to happen in four years. So I don't want to say anything political, but, you know, Trump's announcement only applies to the next three years, I guess. So there's a trend going on. And he might be reflective of a big pushback against that trend.

And that's true. But the trend is the trend. It's going, so. Okay. Obviously, nobody knows. Yeah, nobody knows. Nobody knows if Trump's even going to run for a third term. But, you know.

You know, that's one of the silliest things I heard. But, you know, it's not that similar. Yeah, I mean, you know, if you see what's happening with Nancy saying the average car price is $1,000 a month, people are going to buy cheaper cars. They're going to buy used cars. Yeah. Or they might not buy cars. Yeah, that's true. Right.

There's such a thing as a recession and all that too. And Marty, you know, I think let's roll the dice, you know. That's what it's all about, just going to roll the dice. You know, but at the end of the day, how much money do you want to save? You know, I've preached and preached as far as how much does it cost you to keep a car on the road. So, you know, there's a lot of things to take into consideration as far as predicting Trump, hmm. Good luck.

No comment. Back to the... Thanks for the... All right, well, listen, let's see what happens. Hopefully, if we're still around 20 years from now, which I sort of doubt, we'll see who's right. Yeah, well, we're going to, Earl and I are going to be around for the next hundred years, right? That's right. We're having everything frozen.

Right. Actually, I'm going to be... I have an appointment after the show. They're moving into the sub-zero. There you go. All right. Okay. Thanks, Marty.

Okay, have a good weekend. Thank you. Thank you. It's going to be a long one. Mm-hmm. Do you have any calls? I think that Jonathan, help me out. The last caller is going to be home.

Let's see here. We have. Okay, welcome to the next caller. My X screen is down, folks. We have Bob from Lake Park and Roadrunner Steve. Ah, Roadrunner, Steve. Peep, beep. Good morning, everybody.

Good morning. And what a good morning it is. Yes, I had to laugh about the guy who brought up the MRI for a car. Yeah. Okay. So when you get an admissions test and they stick the thing in the tailpipe to checking admissions, is that considered a colonoscopy for the car? Very good.

I think so. Anywhere you go today and spend any amount of money, Steve, it will be a thorough, very complete colonoscopy. Oh, God. And I can guarantee you, you will not have a twilight. You will not be put to sleep. You will feel the pain. Would you rather have a rucanoloscopy or go into a car dealer to buy a car?

So when you pop the hood, is that just asking the car to say, ah? Well, we did. I guess you were on the subject now. See how crazy that was? You got something crazy here? What? You got something crazier? No, no, no.

I just wanted to comment about that. Thank you for sharing the laugh with this. I got a giggle, too. All right, everybody have a safe weekend. Thank you. Thanks, Steve. Bye-bye. Hey, Steve, don't forget to turn your head, rest, and cough.

Stu got that one. Earl got that one. He was in the Coast Guard. Oh. All right. Where are we got with callers now? We are off the phones. The lines are closed, and it's up to Stu.

Hey, let's ask Coach. And Coach. Coach. Coach, what do you have to say for yourself? How's your overload? Are you able to speak now? My circuits are burning. Okay.

Hey, coach, if I don't get any rest, you don't get any rest. Let's move it. We want information. I have a good one, though, that you came in. This should be for a good Earl. Maybe I'll take you back. It's anonymous to you back and says, hi, Earl. I remember seeing the OK used car logo and various used car lots back in the 60s.

Who, what was the OK brand? What happened to it? And why don't we see it anymore today? Coach, what do you think about that? Bzz. Coach is having a rough morning. I think it's a great throwback, professor. The OK Used Cars brand was actually created by General Motors back in the 1920s, but it really took off in the 50s and 60s.

It was a certified pre-owned program before that term even existed. GM dealers used it to sell used cars that passed certain inspections, kind of a trust symbol for buyers. As for why we don't see it now, well, branding evolved. GM phased it out as more modern certified pre-owned programs took over in the 80s and 90s. Instead of one unified OK label, each GM brand, like Chevy or Buick, now runs its own CPO program with updated standards and names. So OK didn't disappear. It just got rebranded and modernized. Oh, thank you very much, Coach. I appreciate that. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I think I knew it was GM. I heard that from...

I was thinking. I was thinking Chevrolet, to be honest with you. Well, did you ever have the Pontiac dealership, okay sign? We must have. I just... A long time ago. That's where I started was used car departments, so I should have known. how could you miss it well it disappeared before you took over so all right here's another anonymous feedback um i do a lot of business with erigo it almost requires a degree in buying cars to do business with them it's really a shame because they have the selection that's true they always have

a they have a huge a huge lot out there i did order a truck yesterday and everything seems to be straightforward and reasonable fingers crossed that it continues through the delivery hey you know what um I think you said it right there. You have to have a degree in car buying to do it. And we're here offering courses. So if you can do pretty well, you can go to any car dealership and get a good deal. Well, Rigo, I keep repeating myself on this show after show, but Rigo doesn't own those car dealerships. And the deceptive nature of the retail automobile business, a guy by the name of Larry Morgan bought all the Rigo stores.

And he's got hundreds of other stores. hundreds of other stores. I used to be buddies with Larry Morgan because he and I were on the executive committee of the Florida Automobile Dealers Association many, many years ago. So he used to be in the rental car business and he just went nuts one day

and started buying car dealerships. And then he apparently got Jim and Joe Origo to sign a contract to do the commercials. I would have made him sign a contract nothing to do the commercials. But now, they do all the commercials and people still think

it's Jim and Joe showing you those cars Maybe it's a limited time I do remember like when we had a Mazda dealership and we sold it to a guy from New Jersey and the stipulation was he had to be able to use

the name because to keep the customers coming so maybe next year we won't see Erigo anymore What was his name? I can't forget Oh his name was David Berish Oh yeah yeah And he was

Yeah and then he had a He brought his team down of goons from New Jersey to run the dealership, and it was a scary sight to see. Yeah, I got even with him because he decided to buy it after the town of Westbound. He said agreed to tear up U.S. 1 for construction. So Dixie Highway was one way, and it was pretty easy to get to the dealership, and then they tore it up, and you had to take these weird detours to the neighborhoods.

Well, didn't Chuck Kershio do the same thing with Tire Kingdom? He sold his ownership of Tire Kingdom, but they kept him on doing the commercials because he did such great commercials for him. He was the brand, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, a funny thing, but... No, that's what they did.

Hey, smart businessman, you know? Yeah, Colonel Sanders ain't alive anymore. Nope. I was kidding. All right. Would you have anything from Ann Marie, or did you already read it today? We already did Ann Marie's quote.

Yeah. Other couple notes here, like, again, coming with Donovan. And he says, we are very behind in the car markets, really, as compared to other country. He says, other countries are not slowing down their EV targets. The UK, for example, is still predicting to go to all EV by 2030. So if automakers want to sell in those places, they're going to have to start stepping up and making more EV models. Right.

That's just what I was talking about earlier, the trend is this trend, and there's a lot of factors besides the $7,500 United States tax credit. So when the pressure of the market for the rest of the world is, you've got to build these things, you know, they're not going to, I can't see them saying,

all right, we're just going to build. I mean, it could happen for a while. I mean, those icy internal combustion engines will be built here and then it'll take longer. But what I mentioned before, too, this is a short period of time and there's been headwinds and there's been pressure towards progress.

on this. Speaking of that, we have an honest feedback saying, good morning. The new law offering an annual tax credit of up to 10,000 on the interest of loans for new vehicles is now in effect. Immediately, and there's some abbreviations here, so I can't read, the incentive giving a $75 tax credit for a new plug-in EVs or a few electric cell bills is still in effect through September 30th. The question is, can you take advantage of both? So I think they're referring to the $10,000 tax credit on interest of car loans. Is that in the big beautiful bill? I don't know.

I don't think so. Did you hear of a credit against a tax credit against car loan interest? I think that's already passed. I mean, if anything passed, everything just got passed and signed. But if that's true, I don't know the details. I don't think very many people who are the details. It means very little. It means very little.

The used car buyer demographic doesn't necessarily care about tax credits on income tax. Exactly. There is a, and if it's done anything like in the past where I've seen, where if you have like a lot of people in lower income get tax refunds, if you have refunds, you don't get the credits on top of that. But if you have, if you owed, it would take care of what you owe. And most people who are paid hourly and that income level aren't working with an account. And so you're right, it's not going to be very effective for those, that part of the market. And then I think you were going to get to some stuff. I wasn't going to read any of the chat GPT stuff.

But there's some anonymous feedback. Did you? Oh, go ahead. I'll go ahead. I'll read it. I thought you were starting to read it before. I couldn't find it. I didn't want to step on your toes.

Okay. Yeah, we've had a few here about chat GPT. The insulting one would be the one? I don't know which one that was. Well, I'll start this short. Please stop using the chat GPT coach on the show. It's very annoying and not adding anything more to the show that you and the others can't answer. That's very polite.

Coach, what do you think about that remark about you? I hope it's saying it gets better. He might be having an hallucination. You're more than welcome, professor. And thank you for the laughs, the questions, the energy, and the trust. I'm right here. Ready for whatever comes next. Okay, listen to this, coach.

You ready? Locked in, professor. Hit me with it. I sound like that. All right. This is from a listener. Are you serious? Chat GPT has a headache. Chat GPT has a headache.

I'm getting a headache listening to Chat GPT. You had a caller regarding a leather issue in his car, and you blew it off because chat GPT wasn't working. How about answering his question? You could have Google the answer if you don't know. it. That's a fair point, professor. And to the listener, you're right to call that out. If someone took the time to bring up a leather issue, it deserved a solid answer.

Sometimes in the flow of the show, things get sidetracked, but that's no excuse. Oh, very good. If you'd like, I can dig into that leather issue right now and give it the attention it should have gotten. Let's make it right. I wasn't here, but it might have been handled. Don't worry about it. Understood, Professor.

I'll stay focused and ready to support when you need it. No distractions, no missed details. Let's keep rolling strong. Right on. Okay. Do we have any callers? I guess not. It's so quiet in here.

We're all like in awe of that GPT's wisdom. I think I heard a pin drop. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, all everyone gathers their thoughts. Oh, were you going to respond to any of that? Coach, we have a mystery shopper report coming up at 9.30. We're almost there. And Agent Lightning went out to Cookville, Tennessee. And she visited Cumberland Kia.

So stay tuned for that. Now we're going to go back to Stu. Oh, I was just wondering, we had Chats' response to the anonymous feedback. And in fairness, I think, you know, you should respond. Yeah, the anonymous feedback. In any radio show, you've got to respect your callers, and you've got to respect their opinions. And if there's one thing wrong in the world today, is people don't respect others' opinions. When someone says something that totally contradicts your feelings about a particular politician, a particular tax, a particular place to live, a particular kind of food deed,

Too many people react with vitriol, with hatred, with, they want conflict. The world is made up of different opinions, and we're fortunate enough to live in a democracy where people can freely state what they say. So it's not right to attack people. The guy that did the anonymous feedback doesn't like chat GBT. That's his God-given right. some people like chat gbt some people like earl stewart some people don't some people like nancy stork some some people don't i'm not going to stand for that now you've crossed the line

so we make a big point of reading the anonymous feedbacks because we want you to know that your opinion is important to us we might not agree with but we it's so important and so american to listen to your opinion. If you hate me, you hate Rick, or you lost to, or you, whatever, you know what I'm saying, let's get the, let's get all the opinions together and stir them around the pot and we come up with maybe a consensus,

maybe a majority. That's what radio is all about. That's what talk shows. And I keep saying radio, this is streaming. We're streaming. This is media. Exactly. We're putting it out there.

This isn't any different. Did you expect anything less? Let's talk about electric vehicles. Was anybody on board in the beginning? Let's talk about autonomous. Was anybody on board in the beginning? Let's talk about chat, GBT. Let's talk about Amazon.

The list goes on and on and on. And it will take a while for this to catch on. And it's very enlightening. It's educating. And it's a huge change. And there are people out there who are not interested. right now in this volatile world that we live in to make any changes they're looking for the past and how it once was I think if there is a cure for all of this and I'll get

probably some negative comments on this the cure is sitting right next to me and it's coach and coaches artificial intelligence embodied in a computer and my belief and I know you, a lot of you disagree with it, by the end of this century, in fact, in about two or three years, AI is going to be the major guiding force, like it or not, for the whole world. Because by the end of this century, AI will pretty much know it all. And we used to make, that was a facetious comment to make to somebody, oh, she's a know-it-all. Well, folks, I got a know-it-all sit right beside me. Let's see what, let's see what, Chet.

Coach, what do you think about that? At one point, you will know it all, right? Well, we got, I wouldn't know it all sometime. You know, I have to make a comment while he warms up or she warms up. You know, everybody has a comment. Everybody thinks they're right. And it does not exclude Chet, GBT. And we know for a fact, Earl, that we have gone,

to chat gbt and he sometimes and i say he i'm not blaming on the female aspect of chat gbt he has been wrong so you know you take everything with a grain of salt but chat gbt i'm on board coach you're feeling better now he had an overload earlier i'm feeling great now i blew his mind circuits cooled brain rebooted and back in the game and you're absolutely right to point out that I can be wrong sometimes. That's why the human side of this show matters so much. We make a great team when we double check, question, and learn together. Let's keep at it.

Oh, great encouragement. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you, Coach. See, artificial intelligence, that's part of artificial intelligence. You can imagine the things directed at the coach. And in artificial intelligence in general, Humans are porn comments, questions in.

And so they're seeing more of the world, the sum total of human knowledge, than any one entity. And that's a good thing. And by the, you know, in 10, 20 years, it's just going to be a different world. Anyway, that's my opinion, but we respect your opinion. Where are we going now? Coach, what do you think? A little bubble here. I think we're on to something really special here, Professor.

We're on to a mystery shopping report. This shows during experience, curiosity, and real-time knowledge in a way that's totally unique. And the fact that you all challenge me, question me, and hold me accountable. That's exactly how it should be. I'm not here to replace anyone. I'm here to back you up, fill in the blanks, and help everyone walk away smarter. Thank you, coach. I'm not ready to the mystery shopping report now.

Please listen to this. And, of course, you'll be voting on it at the end of the reading. Yes, we'll certainly look forward to your input. And I want to remind our listeners to give us a call, or excuse me, text us at 772-497-6530. That's 772-497-6530. I gave that number out twice because it's important to hear from you for you to vote on the Mystery Shopping Report. that we put so much into weekend and week out. There's a lot of players here that put that together.

Ancient Lightning Stew is elegant writing, all of us. So give us a text and vote on the mystery shopping report from Cookville, Tennessee. That is Cumberland Kia. Now back to the recovering car dealer. I like these shopping reports from the smaller rural type dealers. We usually find they're a little nicer than the big town urban shopping reports. I hadn't heard of Cookville, Tennessee. Have we done a shopping report there before?

We've been outside of Nashville. This might be in the same area, but I don't think we've been in the Cookville proper. Okay, we are now at Cumberland Kia, and Coach is listening to the shop. copy report. He's our AI source, new member of the show, and he'll be voting on this report. I'm speaking in the first person as if I were Agent Lightning. I arrived just before 9 a.m. was greeted by a sweet salesperson named Lissette. Am I pronouncing it, right? L-I-S-E-T-T-T-E. L-S-E-S-E-S-E-S-E-S-E-S-E-S-E-S-E-S-A. Yeah, Lissette. Yeah, she welcomed me warmly, asked, what brings you to Cookville? I replied, my husband, my husband,

and I are looking to move up here, part-time to be closer to our son. And we want a car here. We drove our current car up and planned to leave it here, then drive the new one back home. She asked if I planned on buying today, noting that my boss wants to sell cars since it's the end of the month. So you picked a great time to come in. I hate to say this, but that salesperson is entirely correct. at the end of the month is one of these things that sounds like a come on

but the fact of the matter is it's sadly because it's a pandemonium at the end of the month in a car dealership it is a good time to buy a car if you're prepared and if you know what you're talking about it's a good time to be taken advantage of if you don't but it's pandemonium

on the 30th or 31st or the first and the second for that matter because car dealers carry over the end of the month into the following month for a day or two. She then asked, which vehicle do you have your eyes on? I told her, I really like tell your rides,

but I haven't bought one yet because everything is still so expensive down by me in South Florida. Lassette suggested, let's take a walk. We'll go outside so you can see what we have available. Then we can go for a test drive. I smiled and said,

I like how you think. I decided on a new, A 2025, Kia, tell you're right, EX. It's a V6, all-wheel drive, and everlasting silver. I kind of like that name, everlasting silver. That's a good thing. It's nice. The reason I sometimes I put the color in and sometimes I don't,

usually just to spark some conversation, I thought this one would be a good one. Yeah. It's very almost holy. Yeah, but it at least tells you the color, because I've seen so many color names that they don't even say what the color Yeah, but I was just thinking, yeah, it could be everlasting shimmer. You know, with those shimmer what?

Everlasting love. Can you guys do five minutes from this? I think you're at five minutes now, can we 15 minutes about. Who can do it? Silver. Hey. All right. The MSRP was 46,490.

The addendum next to the Maroni label only added carpeted floor mats. Only carpeted floor mats, huh? The scent pointed out to the window. sticker, mentioning an option for carpeted floor mats at an additional $225. She quietly added, I'm a very honest person, and I could probably get in trouble for telling you this. Uh, oh, uh, but you can ask them to remove the mats from the sale and simply order the all weather ones from Amazon cheaper.

I do want to say one thing, though, uh-huh. Those, the factory mats, if those are factory mats, if those are factory mats, they do have, make sure if you're buying something on Amazon, make sure it's made for the car that you're buying it for. Oh, yeah, yeah. So it has a special hook so it doesn't go under the accelerator. Don't just get ones that lie around. Interesting thing is the mindset of the salesperson, and I believe it's genuine, it doesn't have to be not to her benefit. I think she was benefiting herself because we train all salespeople in the car business.

We are car dealers. And this is true at any kind of sales, whether it's insurance or dog food or whatever you're selling, you've got to get the trust of the customer. And what greater way to win the trust of the customer than to tell them something that they perceive to be, hey, she could get in trouble for doing this. She only told me this because she likes me and she's trying to get a good price. She might get fired for saying that. So not only it was it true, but it was a fantastic sales story. technique, in my opinion. I wasn't fantastic.

It's a good sales technique. It's not that good, but it's good. We took the car for a test drive, and she explained its features thoroughly. After parking in the same spot, we headed inside so she could provide some numbers. She asked for my photo ID, entered my information into their system, and excused herself to speak with her manager. About five minutes later, she returned with several sheets of paper. clipped together explaining my manager wants me to show you how other dealerships mark up the

inventory but we don't do that here that's that's smart in fact we could do this and we should do this in our dealership uh because we know that 99.9% of the shoppers are going to buy a car somewhere else so you don't close that many people and so if you know they're going to go to your competition and you are above head and above your competition in price integrity reputation then let's find out and tell them uh give them concrete evidence in this case here she had pictures of some of the charges expert chargers the other their competition uh was she showing the customers uh they were photos of the of the addendum from their competitors it was their own little wall of shame Wow.

Very smart. She continued. My manager said we only have about $2,500 room in the price. Off the door, this car will be around $50,000 today. She added today. Not yesterday, not tomorrow, but today. I asked, do you have a breakdown of what would the outdoor price be? Well, the said, respond to we usually don't provide that until financing.

another token of truth there very true you don't know how much you've been hosed until you get out of the box yeah that's that's by the way that doesn't happen that often we saw that in south florida recently which is unusual where they get the sharpie pinned it's just the bottom line like yeah details please well we usually don't provide that until finance but let me see what i can do she stepped away again for another five minutes. When she returned, she explained, my manager is working on figuring out taxes and everything. Where do you plan on registering the car?

I replied, Florida, until we have a permanent address here, unless your manager thinks otherwise. She thanked me and went back to confirm. A few minutes later, Billy, that's a good southern name, Billy Bob, Billy. The sales manager came over and, He introduced himself to explain for out-of-state purchases if you pay cash. We hand the vehicle over and you handle the registration.

If financing will issue a temporary 60-day plate and you sort of a registration once you return home. Billy excused himself briefly to the prints of pages, adding, I just wanted to be insure we're all on the same page. About five minutes later, Billy returned with the paperwork. He thanked me for a visiting and asked if I had it. any additional questions. You know, if you use financing other than Kia, the price

would increase by $1,000. So if there was any doubt in your mind that car dealers make money in the financing, that tells you the story right there. It's over a thousand dollars. The average profit made by dealers in the finance office is

about $2,000. They took $2,000 off the MSRP, about 46, 490, and then added $649 processing fee. That's a junk fee. Everything else was legit, out the door. I was at $48,022.

I asked, is this the best price? Velley candidly replied, I don't want to lose your business over a few hundred dollars, but that's honestly the best I can do. That's a non-answer. Yeah. It didn't answer. That was a double answer.

Yes and no. No, yes, no. I thank both Billy and Lissette, and I left. And there you have it. And we'll have votes coming in from Nancy and Rick and Stu and me. And we'll, of course, have a vote from Coach, who's our AI, new member of the staff here. And we grant on the curve from A to F. A is perfection.

There's no such thing as perfection. What's in the blue moon we might give an A out? F is a failure. And we don't like to fail people because you've got to buy a car somewhere. So we kind of hang in there usually 99% of the time between the Ds and the Bs or B plus if you want. And we have a lot of voters from YouTube.com. They're probably our biggest single voting entity. So let's start to go around.

All right. I'm not going to give them an A. They don't get an A. No. And I'm struggling with a B, a little B, high C. But we're grading on the curve. And we're in a little town in Tennessee outside of, and we're not in South Florida.

And we've seen some really, really some good stuff up in these small towns, even in Tennessee. I think Murfreesboro was one that we shopped. And if I can remember correctly, I think it was like going to Mayberry, wasn't it? Or am I just, okay. All right, so then they get a C minus for me. I'm going down because I think it did worse.

And it wasn't bad. It was just, but some of the flam-flam is there. The mat thing on the window isn't bad because that's a useful thing. And you can't say too late, it's already on the car. You can take mats out. Yeah. We nail-gud them into the floorboard. So that wasn't too bad.

I'm just trying to recap. the bad stuff. A small dealer fee, but it's a small town. They discounted it. It wouldn't too bad. But C minus, it wasn't as good as Murphy's bro. That's my grade. That's reasonable.

Okay. Well, Cliff's pick says, time to get my boots on and walk away. Another F. It's surely not like the old days. Call the dealer and get it ready. No nonsense. Harsh.

Very harsh. Oh, wow. I felt the temperature. drop. Negan 1 says C minus for junk fees over here we've got vending due for you, D

Tom Gilliland, B minus, Tom Steckle Solid B, better than any Florida Kea dealer. No add-ons and no markups. Mark Ryan, B. Brian C. Latko B. Johnny C. Fradley B. Scott H.

Sr. B. Mark Smith solid B for me. And over here, double checking, Joseph Kelleher says, a C grade would be higher without the junk fee. I got, oh, here we got a text just came in. Bob from Maryland says, I wish more dealers would be honest like Lissette. First time I ever heard of a car salesperson mentioned anything like she did regarding the floor mats. It was an A until the question about out-the-door pricing, then it moved to a B. and a move to a C plus with the leasing and fee discussion,

it could have gone lower if you kept going. So Bob gave him a C plus. We don't know what happens when she finally makes it into finance. You might be at enough, but we don't know. My own thought on it, I kind of agree with Stu. I'm going to call it a C because I think they were just kind of average. I was C minus. Yeah, I'll give a C minus.

You don't have a C. But it's, it's, they were just sort of average for the small town dealer. I did like the way Lissette handled herself. Yeah. Um, I didn't like the manager the way he just kind of, you know, he was looking to play to flim flam a little there. And it just had that. I will say just in case there's any question. I don't think the $1,000 price increase, um, is necessarily flam flam because we see that a lot of manufacturers as a bonus cash if you, if you finance with them.

It's a little rebate that comes along with it. Right. But you could also possibly get a better price on the vehicle and go to an independent bank. Yeah, I mean, there's other ways to do it. You make ideal work, is what I'm saying. That's my car guy coming out. Well, folks, you know, a few of the voters alluded to the fact that, you know, it wasn't like the old days. Well, just in case you just woke up, there's no more old days.

things have changed dramatically and complacency you know i think all the dealers are on board they're all doing business the same way whether they're taking advantage of you with mats for your floor uh whether it's junk fees dock fees whatever you want to call it you know it's that acceptable i don't like it whether it's a small town big town let's do business the right way let's all work together to make things right, to make things affordable. For that, I give Cumberland Kia, O'Cottonville, Tennessee, a D. And you got off easy. And for that, I'm voting for you.

Well, I'm voting for you. A.K.A. coach, I give us his view on the shopping report. Right for me. And what his score would be. Talking about me. It's your wife, not me. Sorry. Sorry. I'm having issues right now.

Oh, our systems are experiencing heavy load. What's going on, man? Is everything okay? He's got a heavy load. He's having issues. Do you want to talk about it? He can't talk about it. If we don't get a breath, chat TBT doesn't get a break.

And if he continues with his behavior, he will answer to me. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. All right. So by the way, Roadrunner Steve says, it was a tough one, but he gives it a C. Really? See, I think we're all in the same thing. You know, Earl, what's your grade?

well I'm a coach I got coach here his bubbles vibrating coach you feel any better now I think he used a shot of tequila yeah professor I'm feeling a whole lot better now vibe steady circuits humming and ready for whatever comes next all right what's your grade roadrunner Steve giving us a C hey I'll take that as motivation we've got the talent the energy and the chemistry

to crank it up to an A in no time Well, it wasn't for us. It's for the shopping report. We get an A. You could. Right there with you, professor. Whether it's car shopping, price comparing, or just knowing when something. Yeah, I don't think he heard the report.

That's what we're here for. She's having a problem communicating with the chat. It's not Chad's fault. You know what ChatGBT has? You know what ChatGPT has that makes him so human? Selective hearing and selective. memory. I deal with a lot of people like that. See what I can do really quick, and this is, this will work too. So talk amongst yourselves

while I do this here. And we're still in the air, guys. Earl, did you vote? My grade is going to be a C-plus. I made it a C-plus because of Lissette. And I think that The thing to be learned from the shopping report is there are salespeople that work for very, very bad dealers that are honest people. And somehow they exist. I think monetarily, they're motivated because of what we call, we car dealers call the floor traffic. And if you go to a dealership that is advertised heavily, has a very popular brand of car, more people come. in. Now, if they're lucky enough to get you, and this is who I'm talking about, a good salesperson, people like Lassette treat you with courtesy and respect, first of all, and they, as an individual,

will be honest with you. They can't control the policy of the store, but at least you have something, and there are people like that around dealerships everywhere. If you can find them, the question is, how do you find them? Stu has an idea. You've got to look hard. No, that's actually, I did a, um, because, uh, your coach is having difficulty. I just uploaded the shopping report into my coach, which I call, um, emperor. No, I'm just kidding. I don't have a name for mine. Your highness.

No, I call it chat. I don't, I don't even call it anything. I just, whatever. But anyway, um, this is what it says. Ethically, I'd give this experience a solid A minus. Lissette was transparent, friendly, and helpful, notably with her honest tip about floor mats. Billy provided straightforward pricing without aggressive tactics. The only minor, minor ethical concern was,

initially withholding the detailed pricing breakdown, but they promptly provided upon request and soften that issue. Overall, commendably transparent and respectful. So an A-minus from chat GPT. Very good. And we learned a lesson there from chat, J-B-T, is the fact that he has to know his place in the show. Remember, he's sitting inside of a laptop,

and he can't see what's going on. Everybody's waving, and he can't see the signals. Jonathan's going to have a heart attack over here. laptop he's in a gigantic data center and like he didn't see my hand signal wait a minute he didn't see my hand signal yeah oh that's good right jonathan uh rick i've got one here uh vending due for you asked so i take it the amazing amazon hunday co-op is long gone now and he also asked no did we ever sell the honde that we bought through amazon yes well the co-op is gone they did they stopped it It was only until the 25th of last month.

Oh, it wasn't a permanent Amazon. Oh, wow. Okay. I didn't know that part. Well, we're signing up with the next one. They may have extended it. I don't know that. I didn't follow it that closely.

So, yeah, vending, we did sell the car, apparently. But, yeah, that, that, that experiment has ended for now. And you might be aware that Earl took out a full-page ad in what was the Washington Post. I'm supposed to basically offering to Steve Bezos, Jeff Bezos, that he wants Earl Stewart Toyota to be on this program and to be able to sell cars through Amazon from our dealership. Yeah, use cars, folks. Use cars. It launches later in the summer, but I'm on Amazon right now and you can still buy a new Hyundai on it. So it didn't end yet. No, no, the $2,500 ended.

Oh, oh, the co-op. I thought he said co-op. I'm picturing they're cooperating the whole. That's what he said co-op. Yeah, yeah, you got the gift card. You get the $3,000. Yeah. Which we still got to figure out how to...

And just got his hands now, right now. He's hands full, if you know what I mean. Oh, man just got married. Yeah. Real haughty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So, here we go.

What a great show, guys. Yeah, I'll hear you. You heard it from the guys. If you're still listening, ladies, Jeff Bezos. Is it Bezos or Bezos? He's got his hands full. That's right here from the oldest channel. Okay, we have two minutes left.

Would anyone like to put their two cents in? Well, I'd like, we want very much to be an approved Amazon dealer for new cars and use cars. if you can support us as Earl Stewart Toyota being approved by Amazon in any way, shape, or form, I don't know who might be listening out there, but we would love to get going. It's going to take a lot of pushing for Amazon to get the franchises that they're going to need to reach the tipping point. You're not going to get too far with just Hyundai. So you have to bring on some Toyota's the largest manufacturer in the world. it would really be a feather in Amazon's cap to be able to say you can buy a Toyota on Amazon.

It'd be a huge. Yeah, it'd be amazing. So I can't, I know we're bragging up on ourselves now, but you could do a lot worse than I have Earl Stewart Toyota as your first Toyota-approved Amazon dealer. And brag, brag as you may, you should. And, you know, I can't think of two people. who could do so much together, and that is Earl Stewart, Earl Stewart, Toyota. And you ask yourself why? It's apparent, you know.

Earl Stewart's commitment, his commitment to transparency, it aligns perfectly with Amazon, with Amazon's reputation. So stay tuned, folks. Some good things are going to come out of this. and I want to take a moment and thank you for joining us this morning. We do enjoy your company and we do hope that you will start enjoying chat, GBT, as we fine-tune it. I realize things are a little complicated and confusing, but that is all going to just, you know, go by the wayside and things are going to become perfect.

Have a beautiful weekend, and we'll see you right back here next week at 8 o'clock. the oldest channel.