Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast - Effectively Wild Episode 224: The Evolution of On-Field Celebrations/The Home Run Derby Draft

Episode Date: June 14, 2013

Ben and Sam discuss the evolution and future of on-field celebrations, then pick the players they’d most want to appear in the Home Run Derby.

There you go. There's the winner. Look at that. Back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back I'm Sam Miller with Ben Lindberg. Ben, how are you doing? Very well. Great. Good to hear. What do you want to talk about today? I want to do a home run derby draft. All right. And I want to talk about barbecue sauce. So who should go first with these two wonderful topics? You, I guess. Actually, can I ask one quick question? I read a thing about football today, which was weird.

It was just an excerpt from an article about how NFL clubs are allowed by league rules to have two star players. They designate two star players who only have to speak to the media once per week. So the Patriots have Brady and Tebow, two equally talented quarterbacks, designated as their stars who speak to the media once a week. And I was wondering if there is a reason for baseball teams to do that. I don't think so. Okay. I think baseball is a lot different than football.

I think baseball is a lot different than football, Ben. Let me go into a long standard routine about it. No, baseball, something happens every day. A lot happens every day. And there's not, I don't think there's really quite the risk of over analysis of baseball. There's a risk of over abundance of baseball, but not over analysis. I mean, you genuinely do have seven new events every day that need to be talked about. And in football, there's only one game a week and nothing happens between Sunday and Sunday that would require you to be available to the media more than that.

There might be just as much over analysis of baseball. I mean, just the fact that, well, I don't know. I don't actually read football writing, so I can't say, but there's certainly a lot of narrativizing in baseball because you have to say something sort of significant about every game. And in football, each game is more significant, even if it's not really, I mean, I don't know whether it's more reliable or anything in terms of sample size, but you have to kind of – there's a tendency to draw some conclusion from a game or to take some lesson from a baseball game or say something significant about it. And there are 162 of them. Yeah, of course. But that's the – there's 162 things to talk about.

I mean, there's more to talk about because there's more being played i mean am i understanding this correctly that each player does have to be available to the media at least once for every game uh is that what you're saying once a week these these two star guys these two guys these two star guys have to speak to the media only once uh so i guess other players have to be there all the time. These guys just have to do it once. Right. They have to per game per week per week. Yes. Yeah. So every single game that is played, every single player is available to, to talk to the media. Yeah. I guess it's just, uh, I don't know when, when people talk to football players because there's only one game a week, I guess they, do they talk to them in practice or something? I when people talk to football players because there's only one game a week i

guess they do they talk to them in practice or something i guess they talk to them in practice um so these two star players wouldn't have to do that or they just wouldn't give interviews in between game days or something they'd only be available for one day a week or i guess i don't know that they have to speak to them on game days either the thing I read just says they have to speak to them once per week so I don't know whether it has to be a game day or not all right okay okay um so yesterday uh Eric Hosmer had a walk-off base hit for the Royals and he was basically pied in the face with barbecue sauce. And I'm sure anybody who's been paying attention has noticed that the pying of baseball players

is getting more and more elaborate. It is, I would say, not so much just that it's becoming more and more elaborate, but in conjunction with this, and almost certainly a cause of the more elaborateness is the fact that these are all being broadcast on post-game you know post-game coverage they're being gift they are being uploaded to mlb's highlights pages and so we are awash in celebrations and so because of that we've gotten the um the the various pies, the one where the guy knows that the pie is coming, and so he avoids the pie and yet is pied anyway, so there's that pie. There's the gatorading where the guy, again, dodges the gatorade or hides behind a reporter.

The reporter gets drenched. The two are gatoraded together. And meanwhile, there's also this trend of nearly, it seems to me, watching baseball, every team having some sort of hand signal after a base hit when you're standing on first base. I'm guessing maybe originated with the Rangers about three years ago with like, I don't know, like the deer or something like that. The antlers, yeah.

The antlers. And now I see it on a number of teams. I don't know if I want to say it's every team, but I would say that there are, well, there are more teams that do it. The Royals do it, for instance. Other teams do it. And so I'm going to first just real quickly premise before I transition into the point. I'm not a person who cares that this is happening. I'm not here to scold baseball players for defiling this great game. And so if anybody is anticipating that and thinks that they're going to just get out of here before Grandpa goes off on his rant about, you know, five b's for a nickel or whatever uh i that's not where i'm going however uh i do find it interesting because um baseball has always been

the sport with very little celebration and it was the uh it was the sport that was held up against football when when when cultural critics were bemoaning the state of football and the touchdown dance. It was always held up to baseball, this classic sport where these things would not be allowed. And if you tried to do anything so showy and colorful, you would certainly be knocked down with a pitch to the noggin.

And football has done a lot to actually limit these celebrations over the last decade or two. And it's interesting that baseball, um, is going the other direction. It seems, uh, fascinating that, that culturally this is, uh, that, that these two sports can go into such different directions. Um, and so I just wonder, uh, I guess I have a, uh, I don't have much to say about this, really. I just wanted to say barbecue sauce. But I guess if I had any quick questions I would ask for you, one is, what is the next fluid and or viscous substance that a player should put in another player's face?

Two, will baseball crack down on this in the next, let's set a timeline of seven years. Will baseball crack down on these things? Three, do you have a compelling reason for why football and baseball would be moving in these different directions? And four, do you have a personal opinion about whether they are tacky or not? And I should just note one thing.

I also wrote, I would guess, two or three months ago about the evolution of World Series celebrations. Yes, I was going to bring that up. World Series celebrations used to be literally get the final final out walk to the dugout and that was the world series celebration and it gradually evolved into shaking hands on the field and then hugging on the field and then dancing on the field dog piling on the field eventually it got to the point where it was a regular thing that the fans would storm the field uh and they cracked down on that in the i believe late 70ss and now not only do we have the World Series celebration that you know so well but we have it for clinching a wild card berth we have

it for all manner of to some degree we have it for all walk-off victories which are celebrated considerably more vigorously by players on the field today than a World Series championship was in the 1940s. And my theory, my sort of premise for the piece was that this was driven by TV, that as these games were broadcast on TV, the players felt a subtle pressure to both perform, to continue to perform their joy in front of people and also the sense that the fans that by celebrating in public the fans were in on it that this was this was something that brought the fans into it and that became a requirement for players to do so that fans could feel like they were on the field with you and so so when I see these, you know, horns or the pie,

I just wonder how much of this is actually something that's kind of a good deed that players are doing for the fans and that for that reason will not be cracked down. I think I would draw a distinction between the horns or the celebration that goes on in-game and the post-game celebration. To me, they're sort of different. I guess the thing that used to upset people when football players would do the end zone dance or when they would sack someone and then while he lay there like writhing on the ground this is like stand urinate on his corpse yes everything short of that pretty much so that was it was easy to construe that at least as showing up the other player um whereas i feel

like the the post-game celebration i mean, by the time the pies is happening, the game has been over for a while. The other team is off the field. They aren't even seeing the pie-ing. And it's more of a celebratory gesture, I feel like, than an in-your-face gesture. It doesn't seem like it's directed towards the other team it's not like a triumph over the other team so much as it just is kind of a team unity

celebrating someone's achievement um and and I I don't know I I you don't really hear I mean you you hear people complain about certain certain gestures right certain teams like like in the the somersault and the prince fielder bomb yeah well the the somersault was awesome um yeah so i i know i still still can't believe still can't believe that we first they came for the somersaulters and i was not a somersaer, so I said nothing. Right. But I regret it. Yeah, that was amazing. Aroldis Chapman rolling towards the plate after recording a save was great. I enjoy closer celebrations because,

and I guess they are kind of showing up the other team. I mean, the game is over, but it just ended and the batter is still standing there. Those are interesting because the pitcher is facing the batter. In these other ones, it's not a direct confrontation. Yeah, right. I like those because it's like part of the identity of those players. It becomes something that you think about when you think of those players. You think of how they celebrate, and it's just kind of another unique thing about them that makes us feel a connection to them or makes us feel closer to baseball, I feel like.

I'd be sort of sorry to see that go, but I could understand if that were cracked down on. And you do hear, I mean, there is some blowback to that sort of thing. I mean, I don't know whether people complain about Rodney's bow and arrow, but people did complain about the somersault. I think someone on Chapman's own team kind of said he shouldn't have done that. Yeah, yeah. They shut it down. The team shut it down. I think Dusty Baker shut it down. So there's that. And people got upset about which team was it in the WBC?

Was it the Dominican team, right? Was like really just happy and celebrating and really loud on the bench and being very demonstrative. And that kind of ticked some people off, I think. being very demonstrative and that kind of ticked some people off, I think. So you hear complaints about that, but you never really hear complaints about someone getting a pie in the face after the game, right? The other team never says, well, you know, in my day we wouldn't have done that or the other manager doesn't make any comment about that.

So I feel like there won't be any crackdown on that sort of thing. And it is kind of fun for the fans to share that stuff after the game. And there's always a little nod of fans around the first base bag or whatever, just standing there waiting for the pying to happen. So I don't mind that. I think I could see a crackdown of some sort coming if the in-game celebration starts to reach some new level or become more saturated than it has. I think the next substance that a team should use is Gak. It's been much too long since Gak was a part of popular culture, the Nickelodeon, uh,

just sort of undefined amorphous substance that would be used on all of the, the game shows in the early nineties. And it would just be this green goo that would just fall on kids. Um, so I think that should be, that should be the next thing that's used. Uh, and I don't remember what other questions you asked me,

but I think there will be, yeah, I could see there being some sort of censoring or some sort of measure put in place to cut down on that at some point. It doesn't particularly bother me either. And it's not really directly showing up. I it's it's always like the the player who just doubled or whatever will will do whatever the gesture is and he'll he'll do it while looking at his teammates uh and they'll it's kind of like a unity thing it's a thing that they're all doing together he's not like going he's not calling time walking over to the mound and doing it in the pitcher's face um so it's it's not it's not a direct offense but i could see an offense being taken i could see it bothering some people yeah so i uh to complete my thought which i didn't i'm not sure i totally

completed but when i was talking about how tv i felt drove the world series celebrations just to in case i wasn't clear i feel like the the GIFs and the MLB highlights, the way the MLB highlights are almost replacing the game for a lot of people as the way to consume your team. I think that's driving this to a large degree and so when i start thinking about what medium is next or what technology is next to get us closer to the sport um i think it will either be on field audio or uh i'm sort of hoping more likely is some sort of the ability to uh to watch every player on the field um either at your choosing or all at once in some sort of split screen or through maybe like a panorama camera that you can control. But you kind of get in the post-season version of MLB TV. You get a bunch of camera angles.

You can't really control them. You get a lousy version of it, yeah. But, I mean, I don't know. My personal thing that I'm always talking up is that cnn 360 camera have you seen this yeah uh there's a there's a yes yes network has a thing now where like oh they do the matrix the bullet the bullet yeah it they'll like show a replay and then they'll pause it and somehow just completely sweep around so it's a different perspective but it never cut to a different shot it's just a continuous thing it's pretty cool

the point is that if if it's audio on the field i could see this going in the direction of some sort of song a team song uh or a particular team slang that you become aware of or a team chatter that you become aware of that you're never aware of now that could be increasingly elaborate and if it's the uh every player on camera at all times phenomenon, I could see some of the, I wouldn't, I think this might be the tipping point where the MLB would step in, but I could see some sort of choreographed behavior by like the defenders, if there was a good play, like if like they could all do some choreographed dance or something like that. And so that's probably the point that I'm dreading.

As for the substance that I believe we will see, I would say that high-powered super soakers are quite likely. I would say that Nerf bats are also quite likely. Nerf bats slash Nerf guns. And the impressive one to me, because of the amount of planning and just the logistics of doing this, would be either a extremely large Jell-O mold or a freshly baked cake. Yeah, I would like to see them bring back an actual pie because the pie is just shaving cream slapped on a towel, which... Yeah, and you clearly did not plan this. Right, I'd like to see someone...

The pie is the equivalent of a Father's Day e-card where you can send it the morning of because you forgot. I want something that you had to slap a stamp on two and a half days in advance so that I know you're really thinking that could be part of the rookie hazing like the the rookie on the team is the designated baker like the walk

off baker every day yeah you have to do one every single day and so yeah I mean maybe the last guy in the bullpen um he's the guy who has to bake a cake and and and he will almost never use the cake and then that will just be part of the hazing that he'll just sadly produce this pie and and and he will almost never use the cake and then that will just be part of the hazing that he'll just sadly produce this pie and and it will i don't know you could give it to the fans i guess no no he eats the cake he has to eat the cake that's part of the hazing he has to eat the cake that might be counterproductive 25 minutes ben we've been going 25 minutes Ben we've been going 25 minutes okay I like on field audio by the way I hate in game interviews with

people on the bench but in game audio where players mic'd up is excellent okay so I guess we'll try to do this quickly we're going to draft five players each that we would want on our home run derby team we are not trying to win the home run derby uh these are just the players or the people that we would

most want to see in a home run derby uh and you could yeah you could try to win yeah if it were your priority as the captain of a home run derby to try to win uh then you could certainly try to win but i would consider you to be a profoundly broken person if that was your priority i could see like i think that for each individual player in the home run derby yes he's got a strong incentive to hit home runs he's performing in front of people and he doesn't want to be shamed but as a captain i can't imagine anything uh uh less less less necessary in your life than to captain a Home Run Derby winning team. So don't.

If anybody out there ever finds themselves the captain of a Home Run Derby team, don't. Just don't do that. Be fun. Be fun. If people started making a mockery of the Home Run Derby, then Bud Selig would probably make it count for something. Right. It's the Home Run Derby determines the winner of the all-star game. Yes, which determines home field advantage.

Okay, so we're not trying to win. These are the players that we would most want to see trying to hit home runs, I guess. Who goes first? Who picks first? I don't know. We didn't talk about that. I guess since we're not trying to win, it doesn't really matter. Well, I'm the visiting team.

Okay. Go ahead. All right. I'll take John Carlos Stanton with the philosophy that he hits the most interesting home runs in baseball, and he is, I would argue, the best home run hitter in in baseball and i don't see how you don't have that guy in there okay um i he also hits he also hits the fastest home runs in baseball and i think that those are underrated in these home i think that the home run derby it tends to overvalue i would, the guy who hits the 435-foot ball that he pulls, because those are pretty.

Those are aesthetically nice, but they are not the longest home runs, and they are not, to my way of seeing it, the most fun home runs. Okay. I think I will take Chris Davis. And again, so far it sort of seems like we are trying to win the home run derby, but the point is not necessarily that these guys are the most likely to hit home runs, although I guess they are. It's that the home runs that they hit are the best ones to watch, or they're the most awe-inspiring. I guess I would want to see Chris Davis hit the ball because he

hits the ball really, really far, and he hits balls that don't at all look like home runs and they turn into home runs so um yeah I would just he's yeah yeah he's also having a moment yeah and he's an interesting story too and that's yes that's important also uh all right so that he would have been he would have been my second pick and second or third and maybe maybe I mean I consider him for first okay so my second pick is uh bryce harper on the theory that he is the most uh not only is he an elite home run hitter uh but a he is the most interesting baseball player i would say in the game right now he is the the one with the highest q rating uh as well as a player who most of us initially heard of from his 15-year-old home run derby in Tampa

when we saw him hitting those 500-plus foot home runs with aluminum. So I feel like there's a particular coming full circle element to it. And also, there's a pretty good chance that, I mean, not a pretty good chance, but there is a non-zero chance that he is eventually the all-time home run leader. And, you know, just sort of planning for that. It would be nice to see him at 20 just raking. Okay. I think I'm going to take Chris Carter. Oh, yeah.

to take chris carter oh yeah yeah he i mean he also hits very long just booming home runs um do you remember that one home run that he hit this year where the sound it was in houston and the sound was just this like just this crack and boom and it was like just the the prototypical home run sound um and i'm also kind of curious about whether he would miss the ball. There's the chance that he would like strike out in the home run derby, which would kind of add some additional intrigue to it. Well, yeah, one way or another that it works because either we're talking about a guy who is either going to swing and miss at a batting practice pitch, either we're talking about a guy who is either going to swing and miss at a batting practice pitch um or we're talking about a guy who you sort of if swings and misses weren't a thing

in baseball like if there were unlimited strikes he would be elite he would be one of like the four best hitters in baseball and uh so it would be fun to put him in a setting just once in his life to put him in a setting where he's the star, he's the hero, and we can all just see this superhero in the context he was born for and yet that sadly we have not created a world for every day. And also, so my third pick is Evan Gaddis. And Gaddis is a little bit like, I approve of Carter for a little bit of the same reason.

I think you always have to have the one guy who is not actually necessarily good at baseball, but who is good at batting practice. And for a couple years, Trumbo was the guy I was touting, but then Trumbo got good at baseball, and so he actually became a viable candidate. But the same sort of thing. It's just, it's fun to watch a guy, it almost feels like a little bit of, you know, like making a kid's dream come true, you know.

And then he shows – it's like, okay, so, well, I don't know. This might be – this is going to be insensitive. So I'm going to keep going because I started, but it's going to be a little insensitive. But, you know, when sometimes you'll see like a news report about some kid with like a developmental disorder or something like that and he's the water boy on his team and they let him play the last day of the season for like one

play you see that a lot but then like one out of a hundred times that kid comes out and shoots like six threes in a row and makes them all so that's Chris Carver so I warned you threes in a row and makes them all so that's that's chris carter so i i've worn yes yes um and you're my you're my editor so if this gets edited out then that's great and if it doesn't then you just took you took ownership um all right my next pick is ichiro uh now this would have been a better pick probably five years ago, ten years

ago, but I would pretty much pick Ichiro until the end of time as long as he is alive, I would put Ichiro in the home run derby, just because of the long-lasting narrative that if Ichiro tried to hit home runs, he could hit home runs.

And you'll hear players say that he hits home runs in he could hit home runs. And this has just been, and you'll hear players say that he's just, he hits home runs in batting practice. And that if he were in the home run derby, he would just hit home runs at will on command. Um, I don't know whether that is still true at age 39. Uh, but I want to see it. I want to see him try and do it even, even as diminished each row. I want to see whether there's anything to that. because I've always been skeptical about the idea that he can either hit for a high average or hit for a lot of power, and he just chooses to hit for a high average. But in a batting practice, home run derby situation, maybe there would be some truth to it. So I want to see that. maybe there would be some truth to it so I want to see that yeah I would say three years ago

correct me if I'm wrong but I would say three years ago if we did this he would have been the first pick on either side yeah probably my first pick certainly five years ago and I wondered what I considered Joe Maurer as a less satisfying but more relevant version of the same

I think it's always good to have a back control specialist just to see whether, almost along the lines of the which would you rather have, the 40 power and 60 hit or the 60 power and 40 hit thing. It's interesting to see how back control would translate in a situation where there is only incentive for power. And I would actually, I would love to see Maurer, but are we only going five rounds? Yes. Okay. I would love to see Maurer, but I'm not going to pick him. My next pick is going to be Jim Tomey. I think you always need to have an old man. And I really struggled with the Jim Tomey pick because I wasn't sure he was old enough.

I considered Bonds. And I think two years ago I would have picked Bonds. But Bonds, he's been out of the game for so long now that I just don't think he can. And I actually really strongly considered Chipper Jones in that spot. But Tomey has no enemies. And I actually really strongly consider Chipper Jones in that spot. But Tomey has no enemies. I don't think anybody other than maybe Mariano Rivera has made it this long in baseball without enemies. He's Chris Davis with 12 more years and less range.

It would be interesting to see if his experience helps him out. And also, I don't know if you know this, but his family, he comes from a family of softball superstars. His aunts and his sisters-in-law are all these massive softball slammers. So I would bet anything that he has had family home run derbies before, and he knows the drill. Okay, my fourth pick I think will be Pablo Sandoval. Basically, I want to see whether he would take a pitch in a home run derby. And I also want to see what pitches he would hit out,

what kind of crazy pitches he would swing at and successfully hit for a home run. So, I mean, i guess that's not that different from just watching pavlis and of all in any context but um but i want to see whether he would take a pitch with the with the idea that he could maybe have a higher chance of hitting the next pitch out or whether he makes no distinction between batting average pitches because he knows that or batting practice pitches because he knows that he could potentially hit any of them out so uh he's my fourth that's a good one uh my fifth one uh it's it's hard i i wish you had taken a couple of these guys it's hard to decide on the last one but i think that uh for my last one i will go with uh

trey griffey who is a football player at, I believe, the university or maybe Arizona State or something like that, and is the son of Ken Griffey Jr. and the grandson of Ken Griffey Sr. And is sadly not a ballplayer, at least not at the moment. And I think we deserve. I think we invested enough. Just like we all get to ruin Michael Jackson's kids' lives, too. In reverse, I think we all get to... I think we get a piece of the Griffey family for as long as we want it. And I'm curious.

Aren't you curious to know how naturally good he is? He's probably great. I bet you $1,000 he gets drafted without having played a single college game. Because he's Griffey. He's the ultimate bloodline. And so, yeah, I'd take Trey Griffey and throw him out there. And I think that if he hits his first one, brings down the house. Yeah, that's a good one.

Okay, my last pick, and there's, I don't know, there's a few different ways I could go with this, but I think I'll go with Munanori Kawasaki. Oh, yeah. It could backfire. It could be just awful and depressing and just 10 grounders to second base or something. But he's never hit a fly ball really deep even. He definitely hasn't hit a ball at the warning track, and I don't think he's come all that close in an actual game.

I have not seen him take batting practice. But I'm curious to see whether under controlled conditions he could hit a home run or at least hit a deep fly ball. And odds are, I guess that he can't. I would guess that he wouldn't hit a home run. But I'd like to see him try. And if he did succeed in hitting a home run, it would be really fun, I think. One way or or another he would say something crazy uh in an interview and he'd be very lovable and endearing um and it would be a good story and uh yeah i mean terrible baseball player but but good guy to have a guy and yeah yeah

griffey by the way uh i just am not that i was bored by your final pick, it was great, but Griffey, Trey, incidentally, Ken Griffey III, so it goes by Trey in case you didn't put that together, was offered a contract by the Mariners dated for 2012 when he was a newborn. And the Mariners sort of playfully offered him a contract dated for 2012. And he says, quote, I didn't really love baseball. I will always appreciate it, but football is my passion. So that implies that he did give it a shot, and maybe he's good. Any other people that you want to mention that you really wanted to get to pick but didn't? This article says that he could have taken the baseball contract and tried to make a name for himself through his father i'm guessing that he could not have simply taken the contract yeah probably not okay what was your question oh is was there anyone else that you really wish that you got to pick

that you want to mention honorable mention well i think that uh the best hitter in baseball is generally a good guy to have so i would either miguel Cabrera or Mike Trout or maybe Joey Votto would have been a solid pick that we didn't get to. Miguel, Miguel Sano would have been, I think, and I always, I always want to get a pitcher in there so that we can learn a little

something about this thing. But I don't, I don't feel like there's a good pitcher right now, a good representative pitcher. So it, you know, three or four years ago, maybe. But you know, I don't feel like there's a good pitcher right now, a good representative pitcher. So, you know, three or four years ago maybe. But, you know, there's no Mike Owings. There's no Dontrell Willis.

So I think I would pass. And then, you know, Bo Jackson is trying to get back into the public eye right now doing some stuff. You might be able to get him to do it. Yeah, I had Hunter Pence on list just just to kind of see what he would look like in a home run derby um just for the gifts basically and then a couple well you don't no no no you don't want hunter pence in the derby you want hunter pence with the kids fielding right you're right um and then a couple of just story candidates i guess puig just to capitalize on Puig mania. And Dominic Brown would be kind of a cool guy to have in the home run derby.

Mariano Rivera would be kind of a cool guy to have. Yeah, or CeCe Sabathia maybe. He prides himself on his hitting. That would be fun. That would be fun. He's probably – I bet that guy's got some strength. Oh, definitely. Yeah.

Okay. All right. He's probably, I bet that guy's got some strength. Definitely. Yeah. Okay. All right. Should we note that we're going to probably be publishing the Monday podcast a bit late in the morning, maybe around noon or so.

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