El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 008: Descanse en paz Gabi Caccia – Edición especial

Episode Date: June 14, 2013

Gabi Caccia, autora del libro, "Tú abres la puerta de la felicidad", gran maestra espiritual y una guerrera que venció al cáncer en 2 ocasiones, falleció después de casi una década de lucha con ...el cáncer. Gabi fue un ser humano que tocó y ayudó a miles de seres humanos a encontrar la verdadera felicidad y auto conocimiento a través de sus libros, blogs, terapias, conferencias, talleres, programas de radio y participación en programas de televisión en donde abrió siempre su corazón para compartir su experiencia y llevar un mensaje de paz, amor, aceptación y unidad total con el amor incondicional. Gabi, fue para mi una gran amiga, una hermana a la que hoy extraño en su partida, pero celebro el privilegio de haberla conocido. A petición de amigos de facebook y twitter, aquí está de nuevo el podcast en el que tuve el gusto de entrevistarla vía skype hace algunos meses. Paz y amor para Gabi y su familia. En paz descanse.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Amigues, I'm Mark Antonio Regil, and in this occasion I'm with a heart full of emotions because a very, very, very,
Starting point is 00:00:09 very carid a very, a great maestra spiritual, Gabby Kachach, has fallen, luching for third occasion against the cancer,
Starting point is 00:00:20 the cancer that she called the the infirmidad of the love. A new thing that he's a much,
Starting point is 00:00:28 a He gave some few months of life and she did you and he did he
Starting point is 00:00:32 and he did prolong his life for years with a discipline with a
Starting point is 00:00:35 good with a diet vegetarian with a program and say simply
Starting point is 00:00:42 no no I'm not I'm to the destiny
Starting point is 00:00:46 or the or the mission that every human we have has
Starting point is 00:00:53 very meredas very we need the intelligence of the
Starting point is 00:00:57 universe where all is perfect so So from the side of
Starting point is 00:01:00 spiritual I think that your partida, your transcendence, his fallisimient is the best the best
Starting point is 00:01:05 the plan of the plan of the universe. From my heart of my heart of the question of I'm not to say
Starting point is 00:01:13 that I'm because she was a great friend that was an great that was always that was that I
Starting point is 00:01:20 need a every time every time or Facebook because she in Guadarjara and I in Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:01:25 or in person when was possible we know we and we and we and we're we're talking about
Starting point is 00:01:32 and my heart you're saying my heart my heart you know my heart my heart
Starting point is 00:01:51 my heart you know my love you're I'm saying thanks for all of what I'm I'm sorry to do you I'm and I'm sorry to to their family, to his his children,
Starting point is 00:02:00 them are also my heart my love, and I'm not that you can find a little to this part of
Starting point is 00:02:07 this part of this message is the repetition of the episode where I've the good to have
Starting point is 00:02:13 to have interviewed for this podcast where she was just looking for
Starting point is 00:02:19 for a third occasion against and there there was there I thought of
Starting point is 00:02:25 all the I was going to be to a third occasion. So, the petition of you
Starting point is 00:02:30 that's the question of you have been on Facebook and Twitter. Here I want to put to your
Starting point is 00:02:35 disposition, that was the episode number three of the podcast. So, and enjoy it and you,
Starting point is 00:02:40 listen to Gabby, that today in Pace Descan. From Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:02:48 California, this is the podcast of Marku Antonio Regil. Amigos, how
Starting point is 00:02:54 I, I'm always, and I always in this podcast, and today, with
Starting point is 00:02:59 the to have via Skype. First, first of all, a grand, a great, a great, grand, a man, a
Starting point is 00:03:05 spiritual, author of the book, you abers the door of the power of the first accrued, and then it's
Starting point is 00:03:12 personally by Don Miguel Ruiz, that has also his program of radio in Guadalajara, is my
Starting point is 00:03:18 great friend Maggie Kacha who I from the Angeles, she via Skype from Guadajara
Starting point is 00:03:23 Jalisco. How is you? Hello, Marko, I'm very happy to be
Starting point is 00:03:28 to be to be all the auditorio. How is Gabby Cache the day of today? I'm living. I'm in a luchy, from me myself, recuperating my health, because for
Starting point is 00:03:41 third occasion me have diagnosed cancer and in this occasion was quite a lot of but fluehendo. I know. How many years you've in this in this luchy? Because Gabi, I
Starting point is 00:03:53 took the gusto enormous to know Gavi, first for media, of a great friend Muto, that took one of those courses of the four accords,
Starting point is 00:04:02 that was to Tittuacan, and you took a, you were your coach, and then Gavi came one of
Starting point is 00:04:08 our in our tanners, and we've many years now to know us, are about,
Starting point is 00:04:13 are, some years, or more, I think, so, Mark, like, six years,
Starting point is 00:04:18 or seven years. Six years, seven years. And in that moment, part of the story of
Starting point is 00:04:23 the history of the thing you have, that you had been been seen to the cancer,
Starting point is 00:04:27 and you had You were in process to to write your first book and you're coach of the life.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So this, this a question on the cancer that is a third occasion in your life, how many years
Starting point is 00:04:37 you've been you know, you know, in the 2004 and I'm pretty much during approximately eight years.
Starting point is 00:04:44 And the year past, again, then, then it took the door to the cancer with a
Starting point is 00:04:50 tumor in a very important that's a thing that he knows it like the thing, I know
Starting point is 00:04:53 that's the one most important and it's a ven nutrition and apart to another tumor in a vener, also very important, that much we know, the vener, Cava.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Me dieticia again, suddenly, salie a delante, and it's like three months. Nowament, I've seen me mal. Reyes. They did, me
Starting point is 00:05:14 did an oncologist, and me said the oncologist that now see, now there's nothing to do. Well, but this story, then, yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:05:21 nothing to do, since I've had eight years that you've done in this battle with, con, that was the same
Starting point is 00:05:28 history. I remember when I know when I saw the story of Gabby Kachah was this, this woman, Firtte, hermosa, with a mentality super positive that had had beenceded
Starting point is 00:05:38 a cancer contra, all the public, that even had said that it had been really the way to
Starting point is 00:05:45 do it to do that not to do you know, and we're going to get to be so these words, so these words,
Starting point is 00:05:50 you have done this last time, something, I think, I'm, I think, it's
Starting point is 00:05:57 Because the doctor me I said, I'm saying, I'm positive, that you're positive, that you're always, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:01 but Gabriel and he's for a first first time, that now is definitive. And it was very impactant
Starting point is 00:06:09 Marko, I think, for the experiences of chirope anterior and for, and for
Starting point is 00:06:14 to have a more more my life, I'm saying to say, I'm very some years, and it
Starting point is 00:06:21 some day for telephone, I think my my own you know, and
Starting point is 00:06:27 even I started circles, to organize my life, in a way,
Starting point is 00:06:32 in the way, in the economic, in the testament, et cetera, because I
Starting point is 00:06:38 think I went, but the things are the things that and it and it
Starting point is 00:06:44 was a thing, I was to say, I think, I'm going to say, I'm to be
Starting point is 00:06:49 a person disciplinada with my alimentation. I was practically vegan without
Starting point is 00:06:55 that was a vegan or the word for the word for the year, I don't
Starting point is 00:06:59 eat anything I'm not of anything of animals absolutely nothing of lachios
Starting point is 00:07:03 nothing of pan nothing of not of not of any not of
Starting point is 00:07:08 nothing absolutely nothing and I know I don't that was a
Starting point is 00:07:13 four years and I was I'm I'm I'm still
Starting point is 00:07:17 but then again another other other other other
Starting point is 00:07:19 things that not they're they don't they don't
Starting point is 00:07:24 rich, but, but, well, the stragos are very also the part emotional that me have seen,
Starting point is 00:07:31 I've seen to be a lot of the points medullary to in the moment in the time in that I'm the force of my
Starting point is 00:07:41 spirit, I'm going to get a little bit, with the love inconditional with me, with the love of my
Starting point is 00:07:46 family, of my children, of my children, reconciled me again with those lasos that are the
Starting point is 00:07:52 ones that are that not I'm sure that if tracienda, tracienda, tracienda in peace. And if I
Starting point is 00:07:58 get, I'm in peace. Sure, exactly. And part of the enormous that I'm with you,
Starting point is 00:08:04 I'm going to get to get with Skype here, and I'm going to think that I'm going to a person
Starting point is 00:08:11 that's diagnosedicated by the medicine traditional, like you don't have to live much
Starting point is 00:08:17 time, because, I'll be the same story, since after eight years.
Starting point is 00:08:20 It's very difficult for me if you want to consider to contemplar the possibility
Starting point is 00:08:23 to that you go to go to you know, I'm going to you know, I'm in a
Starting point is 00:08:27 little bit of the people, but I'm for the people that not you know one of the parts more
Starting point is 00:08:32 most commovedores and more electionedores of your process, is that when when you did the
Starting point is 00:08:37 chemotherapies, you did these fiestas of chemoropia, not? How you you feel? It's physically
Starting point is 00:08:41 after a chemoropia? For who not it for who we've lived in the process of chemotherapy,
Starting point is 00:08:49 well, definitely if is a process doloros, the venas doleen,
Starting point is 00:08:53 in my case I no cateter. There are people who put in a cateter
Starting point is 00:08:56 there's a lot of a cateter in the carthety in the case. In my case, it's aftere. In the arteries.
Starting point is 00:09:07 So, so all of it, it's a lot, there's a much maryo, there's sensations
Starting point is 00:09:13 very extrana's. And, and so there there's much fear, no, because we don't have
Starting point is 00:09:17 been because we're not the chino what I'm propuse the first first time, and the second the second time, the second
Starting point is 00:09:25 time, was to bendize, bend to a way, the liquid saying that this was only the light and more that was my
Starting point is 00:09:34 body. And I'd invite to my amicies to make my chemotherapies to parties. This,
Starting point is 00:09:41 never ever had heard a person that does, that's, that's, the day of the chiropia. Why is this
Starting point is 00:09:46 what was the benefit of this? What were the business and the other and the other
Starting point is 00:09:50 the time? The, Mark, I think, and for all the people that that's a guy for first time, or that I know
Starting point is 00:09:57 you know, I know it in the most profound of my ser, that any way they were going to put the chemotherapy. The could
Starting point is 00:10:04 suffer or the could be to do it. Then it was to be able into the process and my friends
Starting point is 00:10:09 had much fear. I mean, I was said, you know, one thing, in these
Starting point is 00:10:14 moments, I need more of your support, more of your and I want to to come
Starting point is 00:10:18 to me, make a fiesta, we'll talk about some of the attention in things positive, in
Starting point is 00:10:25 start harmonizing this space and this place, because that's me going to help you. So, obviously, there was,
Starting point is 00:10:32 there was an admiration of the people, to say, how is that this woman has a chemotherapy with a
Starting point is 00:10:38 fact, and a situation where the people get, yore, suffer, won't, the stomach,
Starting point is 00:10:43 et cetera. But, but, but, but, definitely, it was, it was,
Starting point is 00:10:47 to be, the other point of And part of that other point of This other point of This is this Here I'm
Starting point is 00:10:53 Here you have your book, you have your door of the word of the Felicitit you can you can't
Starting point is 00:10:56 get to go Gavitkacha.com There you can't have more information In the first part of the
Starting point is 00:11:01 one of the parts is this one of the part of this this is this that you have called
Starting point is 00:11:07 the cancer the the cancer, the cancer I've heard I've heard
Starting point is 00:11:12 even a through the teleton that me to talk every heard
Starting point is 00:11:15 that's said a cancer you me quit my my papa, cancer,
Starting point is 00:11:19 I hate, cancer, you're, you're, you're malign, I'm going to be a vencer, and it's,
Starting point is 00:11:24 it's other attitude, that I'm I'm, I'm a good, I'm a point, a point of
Starting point is 00:11:29 a view with the cancer, you say, you're the cancer, is the problem,
Starting point is 00:11:33 why? Because I, Mark, that the cancer that's what we've been done, and that we've
Starting point is 00:11:41 been to have been to be able to be to the other self- pardon.
Starting point is 00:11:47 So, it can be any other other diabetes, it can be arthritis, no,
Starting point is 00:11:51 and say Alzheimer, many, many, many, many, many some other
Starting point is 00:11:55 I'm in the cancer is he connoted as a synonym of
Starting point is 00:11:59 the so I think that any that in the process
Starting point is 00:12:04 in the process in the I'm doing it I'm done I've done
Starting point is 00:12:07 with that I have done that I have pardoned
Starting point is 00:12:11 that me have that I'm that I'm that I'm
Starting point is 00:12:15 not that the situation in my case the cancer
Starting point is 00:12:18 then is to give a love to be amorosa. I see her love
Starting point is 00:12:24 and I'm sure that I'm sure that I'm really a day of I'm really really a real thing I'm super contented
Starting point is 00:12:29 I'm going to come to a way and I'm meditating, I'm focused with me and I see that the
Starting point is 00:12:37 force comes in me and only if I'm going to get to if I'm I'm trying
Starting point is 00:12:42 he's going to he's I'm I don't come to my life will be a resistance
Starting point is 00:12:48 but if I say you're okay I'm I'm here you're you're you're
Starting point is 00:12:53 teaching me is the self-respect. It's the love inconditional a person to no matter what has been, no, it's
Starting point is 00:13:01 the people who have the people that get our life are masters and we also we're also we're so we're
Starting point is 00:13:09 to me to be it's a way to be a little bit a little but I think the world of the people
Starting point is 00:13:15 media like I can be a little a little a chispa of a person who is
Starting point is 00:13:21 desausiated and He wants to have the experience. You're mentioning things very interesting as like a more
Starting point is 00:13:27 inconditional, which is a thing that definitely I want to talk we're a little more about. But correctem
Starting point is 00:13:31 if I'm in what I'm understand and in what I have been because I've heard from a victim.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Always has always been a conscience very great and for so I'm a one of my great masters
Starting point is 00:13:45 spirituales and more of a friend, and always the form in that you have been
Starting point is 00:13:50 the cancer and the Any other thing that you pass in your life is from a point of view of much responsibility
Starting point is 00:13:57 is to see like in this example of the cancer, not you're saying, cancer, you've made
Starting point is 00:14:02 cancer, me quit, you always you've been like a like, like, like,
Starting point is 00:14:06 like, a master, and like, in what you have a certain responsibility of having
Starting point is 00:14:12 created in your life, but not like a case to you myself, but
Starting point is 00:14:18 like a opportunity, is this, is this, I'm in the correct or I'm not quite.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Absolutely. You're doing the correct. If you're a act of responsibility, because I can't culp to nobody more of what I'm going to all right. We've seen a
Starting point is 00:14:33 infancy, abandon, sadness, a dolor, situations difficult. All we have and I think we all we do
Starting point is 00:14:40 we do so much we can't. Much of the occasions when one is a victimized because also I've done, Mark,
Starting point is 00:14:47 the fact, the fact, I'm done, the child, is that me made of a nina, me
Starting point is 00:14:52 that situation when was small was a little that's going to be to get me to get me the
Starting point is 00:14:57 first of the people who did the life had to the better than the best of the
Starting point is 00:15:02 that I'm that I want to when I know of responsibility and not of the
Starting point is 00:15:08 castigibility as well you can say I'm just I'm sure honest with
Starting point is 00:15:13 me I'm I'm I'm I'm how much I'm how
Starting point is 00:15:19 is my entorn how I do and do love to the other what I
Starting point is 00:15:25 want to the other what I do you do do with the other and all is a
Starting point is 00:15:29 boomeran to go and the way of that I'm not a question no no is a
Starting point is 00:15:34 question not a not a question of the life because I don't think it
Starting point is 00:15:39 not a consequence responsibility and situations that being conscientious
Starting point is 00:15:44 many sometimes knowing that not I don't to eat
Starting point is 00:15:46 certain I don't know that the stress affect me somet to stress
Starting point is 00:15:53 because what this? Much of the times I feel that there's a luched between our spirit and
Starting point is 00:16:00 our ego, our personality and what really we're to understand it's a way. Our personality is
Starting point is 00:16:07 our ego, for to say it and our spirit is what really we're so we're so we're
Starting point is 00:16:10 so we so the ego is a mind to the stress and it and the spirit
Starting point is 00:16:17 is a more so then is much of the occasions. I feel that it's
Starting point is 00:16:23 like to it's like to Japan and to buy a a lot of a while. Well, I think
Starting point is 00:16:28 so I've lived. So I've lived many many times. And me have tried to me
Starting point is 00:16:33 myself in many times. What are the points medullary that I feel that me?
Starting point is 00:16:39 Is it is the being in amistat or in a imbalance in no pass,
Starting point is 00:16:44 in a state of no pass with the people, in first my
Starting point is 00:16:48 children, my parents, my brothers, the people that is more to be more
Starting point is 00:16:52 more than I, and that for situations of ego, I'm barreras. Because the that's
Starting point is 00:16:59 you know, nobody me does impose, to be somebody me this responsible
Starting point is 00:17:04 to accept to, no. So I think there a much stress in me,
Starting point is 00:17:09 in me, and that is what has been that I have caused that I
Starting point is 00:17:13 that's to what me I'm I mean, I said, I mean, because that's a human, even,
Starting point is 00:17:21 even, even, even, Christ, in the cross said, Father, why have
Starting point is 00:17:25 been, he has abandoned. No, took a, of, or, of, and,
Starting point is 00:17:31 like, in the same, the same, the same, the same, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:17:34 it's, part of, of, being, um, human, the, the,
Starting point is 00:17:39 the, he's, but, it's a, it's very distinct to a, to live
Starting point is 00:17:44 installed in the victim, in this level of conscience. When when it gets to appear, you have the option to
Starting point is 00:17:52 observe it, and to say, to hear, this is the thing is congruent with who really really I'm really.
Starting point is 00:17:59 That's what I'm referring. That, like all the human, has been moments debiless,
Starting point is 00:18:04 obviously, but always your conscience has been more higher, that is something that
Starting point is 00:18:09 has done much to learn to learn to know, and that even you have said
Starting point is 00:18:13 to me, when you were to say something me you get to say, oh, Mark,
Starting point is 00:18:17 because that's not these, you know, those words, or that's story that you're talking, not came
Starting point is 00:18:22 of the love, it's a position of a victim where there an auto-compassion or a
Starting point is 00:18:29 poor-o- I, this, me passed when I was a little about,
Starting point is 00:18:33 some, and it's something, I've heard, I've learned, and for
Starting point is 00:18:38 so when I know to you, I'm, I'm, like, like a, like,
Starting point is 00:18:43 thank, for that me does, but as, as I think, Mark, I think we're all we're trying and we're in the same way, in the same barco. And a lot of
Starting point is 00:18:52 the ego, the ego spiritual, a lot of the other than I feel like it's so because the, the, the situations that we've been
Starting point is 00:19:00 centrable for the humility. And I recognize that a lot of a few have felted humility of, to,
Starting point is 00:19:07 I'm to, I'm to, I'm to, I'm, I'm going to love, amorosa, misericordiosamely,
Starting point is 00:19:14 with compassion, not with victim, and the same way, to be the other people, so I
Starting point is 00:19:21 think this situation that I'm going to time, because I see it is temporal, a person a person,
Starting point is 00:19:28 I said, well, I think I go, I'm going, I'm going in the tennis. I'm
Starting point is 00:19:33 that something that's something that's definitely the libre, the libri, the bedriyo,
Starting point is 00:19:39 I and I I'm not to not to not to do you want to do you
Starting point is 00:19:43 know, I'm moving again my food food that's
Starting point is 00:19:48 that's the base of what can functioned my body, my machine,
Starting point is 00:19:54 my machine is perfecta. Nobody he put a sugar to your car like the
Starting point is 00:19:58 car, like the so, because I'm to my body, things that I'm going to
Starting point is 00:20:05 get in a stress. If not I'm not to get to start for that
Starting point is 00:20:09 Notaminted, I'm doing. And, well, the therapies not are, not are very little
Starting point is 00:20:16 those are in certain moments, but I know that's temporal. And it's for a major good.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Who is God? For you, who is God? What is God? What comes?
Starting point is 00:20:27 You know, universe, or Christ, or Buddha, or the Creece that every one has?
Starting point is 00:20:35 For you, who is? For me, God is is the essence. of the life.
Starting point is 00:20:40 It's the same life. The creator of the universe and of all the thing.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And all what exists include any kind of any person, any animal, any universe that exists.
Starting point is 00:20:55 It's the creator of all. We're not we're not. I think that we
Starting point is 00:21:00 don't we don't we don't know because we are the same. We're creations of him,
Starting point is 00:21:06 and making an allusion to The same Jesus in some moment of the life he said,
Starting point is 00:21:12 we're doing a image and semifance, then we're God. That's sound very very hard for
Starting point is 00:21:19 the people, the people, I say, you are God, and you are not God. I'm a person that
Starting point is 00:21:28 me nojo and that I'm so I'm so I'm a lot, but in my essence, I'm God,
Starting point is 00:21:33 in your essence, you're God, and all what exists is God, is the extension
Starting point is 00:21:37 of God. No, we can't start separated, and never we can separate. So, this thing of, that I have to gain me the love of God, I have to gain, the approbation of God,
Starting point is 00:21:49 that's true, that's, that's true, no, absolutely no, because if I am God, creation of God, made image and semehanza of God,
Starting point is 00:22:00 no me have to gainer nothing, because I have all. I've got to, and the life and the life always continue. The life is the
Starting point is 00:22:07 spirit, for say it in a way, the soul, and the soul can't
Starting point is 00:22:11 be a good, in some moment that's going to do it, we're going to be
Starting point is 00:22:16 how we're going to we're really really, but really the one of us, we're doing
Starting point is 00:22:22 the people, we're not people, we're not we're not, we're we're not
Starting point is 00:22:28 we're because we have been the idea of the idea, the right, the reign of
Starting point is 00:22:35 God, we're to do something to do you or I want, or you love, or you pardon.
Starting point is 00:22:38 When God is that, not is a caricature. God is what we are the truth absolute.
Starting point is 00:22:46 This is something to sensational it, to feel it, to experimenterlo. I can't talk many
Starting point is 00:22:52 things of God, but what I'm about God? What I feel? And our
Starting point is 00:22:58 peace or the path that we can't and effectively in a moment of the
Starting point is 00:23:03 more a more a more of the human in the vulnerability of the when we're in the
Starting point is 00:23:10 world when we're the world or the or the or the lot we're rosam with the man's,
Starting point is 00:23:15 definitive something something something is simply the record us that we're we're doing that's what you're
Starting point is 00:23:24 that's not that's not that's what you're saying absolutely in where in where you see a
Starting point is 00:23:32 how you how you how you how you how you How you do you the ego and you and you convertes
Starting point is 00:23:39 one with God? I feel that when more I'm more close I'm that's when more that I'm more that I'm more the more than me
Starting point is 00:23:47 is when I'm when I'm present and and I'm doing and gozando what I'm doing desressately are chispasos
Starting point is 00:23:56 because it's like to let's fluid the divinity that we're and the ego is quell in the
Starting point is 00:24:02 future and in the past. So there is where we've sense separated
Starting point is 00:24:06 of God. Because me do a fear or because I'm stress or
Starting point is 00:24:10 what I'm going to be but I'm present, I'm connected with God and I'm connected with
Starting point is 00:24:14 me my essence and I can connect with you, with your essence. So,
Starting point is 00:24:19 I'm one to you, me one to do you and there division. Some chispos definitely.
Starting point is 00:24:25 It's one a precious and one well, wow, that that woman that has aureola
Starting point is 00:24:28 here in the case. No, some moments. But I think that the
Starting point is 00:24:33 life is the instants, of moments, and the moments, and it's one to enjoy those, probably when we're more than we're more vulnerable than never, when we think we have to
Starting point is 00:24:46 let us and abandoners in the guide interior, that is our spirit, that he knows is the voice interior, that is going to say, for where do, for where no, and, over all the peace isient. Like, the disarmonyer, too, has been
Starting point is 00:25:02 a little bit of love inconditional. I'm going to What is the difference of the love inconditional to the love conditional? How, how am it, God, how we love us,
Starting point is 00:25:13 the human, there's the same love that we've been in the same love and in the telenovelas and I'm you're going to be my,
Starting point is 00:25:21 if you're not you're going to what is this concept of love inconditional for you? Look, Mark, I think
Starting point is 00:25:28 that the love inconditional, I'm doing. The fact I'm learning. because when emito juicions I'm
Starting point is 00:25:36 separandome of the love inconditional. The love that really a very a very much
Starting point is 00:25:41 in the personal I'm about me is when it's when it the
Starting point is 00:25:47 love of the other or of the other is when I know
Starting point is 00:25:52 you know you when you do you I'm I'm you know I'm
Starting point is 00:25:56 you know you do you do you do you do you don't you
Starting point is 00:26:00 put the a bad car because you did you do something that's
Starting point is 00:26:04 a lot to do you know, and not I'm you're in liberty to choose.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Your life is your life, your health is your health, your
Starting point is 00:26:11 your health, you know, you know, you know, you're the definitely
Starting point is 00:26:16 is certain. When we're we're we're not we're not going to put an
Starting point is 00:26:23 objections to other. We know we're a process of a life, a way,
Starting point is 00:26:27 a and many of the many of the people in the quay or no
Starting point is 00:26:32 we put to us in the cooel really we we're doing to love not we
Starting point is 00:26:37 know we know, even what we're we're we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:26:43 because condition we're but it's very human because that's the love
Starting point is 00:26:47 that's that we finally we learn we we're the the movies or
Starting point is 00:26:51 of the telenovelas or of some of our families
Starting point is 00:26:57 you know I'm we're we're we but no there
Starting point is 00:27:01 of that the love no has a God, God, God, God, God,
Starting point is 00:27:07 God, so if we're in the realer of love our own un-sionion. Is that what, what you're
Starting point is 00:27:14 what you're saying? Definitely, to love without conditions and to be not so, I've been
Starting point is 00:27:21 very dour with me, very d'niko, you know, you know, and me knowces, and me knows,
Starting point is 00:27:24 and me knows, doing events, and the attention, and the image, and the image, and that the uny
Starting point is 00:27:30 is perfect and that the the the little bit of all over or not we're not
Starting point is 00:27:35 of the love we're not because we're doing a bad day
Starting point is 00:27:39 and we're our and we know we we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:27:44 doing the making what that is something that that is something
Starting point is 00:27:49 that I me has been many to understand to
Starting point is 00:27:52 understand for example that not not a not
Starting point is 00:27:57 a that think equal, not is a requirement, that to have the
Starting point is 00:28:01 same religion or creences spiritual, not are a reason, to be the same nationality, or to be
Starting point is 00:28:08 to the same team of football, or have a particular or a preference sexual different,
Starting point is 00:28:14 that is to say, that's to be a good, or that do you do you
Starting point is 00:28:20 do, or approb what you do, none of those things are not these,
Starting point is 00:28:25 this concept of I'm Marte, although we're different, although
Starting point is 00:28:30 not we don't we're in the same line and think we're that the reality is
Starting point is 00:28:34 distinct. It's what I have understood as the, like the love, like the
Starting point is 00:28:40 love, definitely. And, and not you're the only, because I also have
Starting point is 00:28:45 costed much much time, and I think that I like, I, like, I,
Starting point is 00:28:49 like, but of my three kids that live, well, so, I've
Starting point is 00:28:54 put to I've made to a certain point intolerant to his processes
Starting point is 00:29:01 also being being adolescents. So I know I not I have loved without
Starting point is 00:29:07 without without because I'm I'm I don't I don't I'm
Starting point is 00:29:11 I'm not I'm not I'm certain things and then I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:29:16 I'm so I'm think I'm I'm doing Marko it's a process
Starting point is 00:29:21 because not we're humans, we're not having an experience human, if nascenamos, yeah, in amor inconditional. So, that would be the
Starting point is 00:29:30 sanctity, no? That would be the, the, certain and absolute harmony with, with the universe, or with God. The moment that
Starting point is 00:29:39 one of a one master spiritual in Brazil, in a retiro that I said, I've heard about much of the series illuminated, no?
Starting point is 00:29:46 In different creences spiritual, but all the santo, of all the religions, they're, they're, that
Starting point is 00:29:53 that's a moment in that they're in the naturalness human and he said
Starting point is 00:29:58 I'm how I'm know I'm know a person illuminated and I'm a person
Starting point is 00:30:01 illuminated if you you'll you'll get a you're going to get a question that you
Starting point is 00:30:07 don't you're going to see the that's that's this is this is
Starting point is 00:30:13 a girl is Catholic that that is a that is a woman this
Starting point is 00:30:17 is moremona this is is a that person is gay this person is heterosexual but no
Starting point is 00:30:24 you're going to listen to that's a that's a no no that's very bad this this is a
Starting point is 00:30:29 different this is this this has to change it's in the moment that you get you
Starting point is 00:30:33 just so you so you that you you're in you're you're in the uh
Starting point is 00:30:39 the I know no you know personal I'm very so much I'm
Starting point is 00:30:44 to get there because because I think the the the
Starting point is 00:30:48 the the the the listening these what is what is
Starting point is 00:30:55 what is bad what is bad what is and I'm and for the least now I can't see look
Starting point is 00:31:01 that's really I'm sure I would be I'd the world like if were a theater
Starting point is 00:31:07 so I'm so I'm so I'm the of the sanctity but that is
Starting point is 00:31:12 basically the origin of the origin of the suffering comes the and it
Starting point is 00:31:17 has to control although we do do the I'm But as I don't I'm
Starting point is 00:31:21 or I'm and as I'm I'm afraid to do you I'm sure I'm not, I'm trying to so I'm
Starting point is 00:31:31 to go to to protect to what I think you're in the way to live your process and
Starting point is 00:31:37 your own your own that we're we do do we do and well definitely I'm definitely
Starting point is 00:31:44 I'm I'm in my question I'm I think we we're to get
Starting point is 00:31:47 to the moment in the moment in or nobody, because let's go to a barb. Oh, look,
Starting point is 00:31:54 look, that's a old, there's a beautiful. Yeah, we're just going. Yeah. Simply it's an arbor,
Starting point is 00:31:59 plant, a flower, person, food, and it's not any good or no, or not.
Starting point is 00:32:04 It's, and I think that's a work that we have to do a constantly but of
Starting point is 00:32:11 a conscience, and I think that we can help me a little more, standing and
Starting point is 00:32:17 to be me, like the observator. the observator of my life and knowing
Starting point is 00:32:22 that all we do we're doing the person that has that we're that does the
Starting point is 00:32:29 more that they're because they're in the effort to protect us does the way
Starting point is 00:32:33 but also one decides if you want to get in that or
Starting point is 00:32:37 want to you know I'm you can I'm I'm to be
Starting point is 00:32:42 in much things with you and I do express something that I don't
Starting point is 00:32:51 like, because no is the because no is the way of my spirit and I condition on
Starting point is 00:32:58 the love or condition the love. There is the situation quite chaotic. I feel
Starting point is 00:33:04 that in the measure in that one vivable our life, because a sometimes we are sometimes
Starting point is 00:33:08 we're in the things we're in the things, in those of others or in
Starting point is 00:33:14 those of the other. So, in the the measure that we're doing more in our own those own those our own own
Starting point is 00:33:21 how is my life really I'm sorry you marko no you're just going to because you're saying because you're just going to oh yeah marcoe's what you're saying is bad because you're saying
Starting point is 00:33:34 you're just going to then so I'm just going to in the measure that we're a little more amosos with us and with our processes and the of the others too in this process that's
Starting point is 00:33:47 I've been, luching three times against the cancer, Gabi, has
Starting point is 00:33:50 had your family and your and your friends to you? Figgate that this
Starting point is 00:33:55 question that's very very very profound. The first when I
Starting point is 00:34:02 was when I was my friends, my friends, I'm very
Starting point is 00:34:04 very part of my family also near me, I,
Starting point is 00:34:09 I pass I decided divorce me and then well,
Starting point is 00:34:17 I've perfectly well, I've done a process very well, I'm a formar
Starting point is 00:34:21 and he can't my children, it's a lot of a ruptura. There's a ruptura
Starting point is 00:34:28 with the family for situations that I think I'm getting, now, until today
Starting point is 00:34:33 I've come, I'm to justify. I'm don't know much that that
Starting point is 00:34:37 separation that I took with the family with basically with my
Starting point is 00:34:42 own my own and I'm compendent in this instant.
Starting point is 00:34:47 There are situations that a lot of sometimes we don't understand and the processes
Starting point is 00:34:53 also have those the same the same the same and now that I'm going to
Starting point is 00:34:59 that third step, the the, that for me, that for me is something
Starting point is 00:35:06 and that I've got a person, that's that's that's who's
Starting point is 00:35:09 he's very important to my kids are my And now that they're
Starting point is 00:35:15 Uh, well, all passed something I'm a terriblement, I go terribly because
Starting point is 00:35:22 has been a lotoros but also also it's been a good because I'm to recover the force of
Starting point is 00:35:28 Gabi and know what is what is what what is your spirit and start with the harmony with the
Starting point is 00:35:34 family, with the harmony with my children is basic and transcendental for me.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I think this this is what you have passed to you not Unica.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I've I've heard the reason because I think it because I've
Starting point is 00:35:48 seen a kind of a kind of a tendency recurrent where a sometimes in
Starting point is 00:35:54 the sequestors in the in the infirmities in the divorce in the
Starting point is 00:35:59 moments difficult the people sometimes not know how manage
Starting point is 00:36:02 the and and it's sometimes I'm now has been
Starting point is 00:36:07 very very attacked obviously but if said in
Starting point is 00:36:09 the it's it's not not not It's not about the bike. After the
Starting point is 00:36:16 after the cancer, it's a divorce. And there are many people who have been sequestrated even together after being after the
Starting point is 00:36:25 death of a child, they're going to when one would be in the information that we're in the information that we're in the novels, that these things
Starting point is 00:36:34 do you unen more. But not necessarily is so. There are moments of tribulation. There are moments of,
Starting point is 00:36:38 the, of the problems very difficult. It's, how assimil I amic the cancer of a mom,
Starting point is 00:36:43 of an brother or the mother, the life of a other, what,
Starting point is 00:36:47 what is, what is, what is, like, like, to be, like, to have
Starting point is 00:36:52 to know to know how help us, or what to say, or what do it, what is,
Starting point is 00:36:57 what you have been very very, I think, that, being a more
Starting point is 00:37:02 and being the things, without the, I'm, I'm can't
Starting point is 00:37:06 understand that there there, there there, there is about the
Starting point is 00:37:10 person, that's a on me, is the cancer. There's much fear of
Starting point is 00:37:16 not to know what to do how to do you. And or we know we
Starting point is 00:37:20 we know, it's the supervience of the human, or attack or who you. And many
Starting point is 00:37:25 times the people that's about us go. Yeah. So, it's a attack also
Starting point is 00:37:31 because he has much fear. So I think we have learned
Starting point is 00:37:35 to confront us to those situations of the life with
Starting point is 00:37:40 a little of more um um um um um
Starting point is 00:37:43 um um we're gonna say um unconditional to say you know I'm I'm afraid
Starting point is 00:37:47 I'm I'm afraid that you go you know that you do you do you do you
Starting point is 00:37:54 don't see what I'm I'm and I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:37:58 and I'm I'm not we've not we've not we've been to communicate not
Starting point is 00:38:03 the way my necessities are these my sentiments are honestos
Starting point is 00:38:09 no they're to They have to be with me but we know we've been a attack or we've
Starting point is 00:38:14 also we've also so I think it's also part of this process or right in my life, the power
Starting point is 00:38:20 to understand without to give to people, to who are people and to who are who are
Starting point is 00:38:27 that they're that can't have been that they're that they can't consider or they
Starting point is 00:38:32 can't be able to the situation and it's very valid is
Starting point is 00:38:37 is to understand that that in the education, the things, the experience of
Starting point is 00:38:44 of the life that those people are the way in that they're saying that's the way. It's like a
Starting point is 00:38:50 not a a moma that a a man that a little bit to do you do the and the
Starting point is 00:38:55 he says, I want to want to be a painter or I want to see a television
Starting point is 00:39:01 or to write to do live or I want to go with national
Starting point is 00:39:05 geographic to gore the world and investigate the
Starting point is 00:39:08 the volcanoes or no see And the papa says, you're going to do you're going to
Starting point is 00:39:12 do with the that's a lot. Not is that the papa, want to sabotage the sun. It's that the father's a
Starting point is 00:39:16 little bit of my child. No, is that in the experience, they're saying, what, what,
Starting point is 00:39:24 what they're saying is, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to you know, that's up the money and that
Starting point is 00:39:33 it's a lot, and that's going to be going to be to do you that's a error. but not
Starting point is 00:39:40 but not say so many know we're saying so many people don't know so
Starting point is 00:39:44 I think that's based on the communication effective, in a communication or violent
Starting point is 00:39:48 the power to say to a example when I know when you
Starting point is 00:39:52 want you want to you go to I feel I feel because me
Starting point is 00:39:58 I'm that I'm that that's something that you
Starting point is 00:40:02 don't try in the life you start to that
Starting point is 00:40:05 we don't to we are the pros the
Starting point is 00:40:09 contras in that you can't help and you expresses how you feel but it's something that's something we're not a lot of
Starting point is 00:40:16 we've got to even when the marid or with the friend because you're in a reunion and is talking for the telephone
Starting point is 00:40:22 typical right that's with the telephone chaty and you can't and for not say he's you know what
Starting point is 00:40:30 you know he says you know he's not going to say he's he doesn't say he in the
Starting point is 00:40:35 look to say Marko when I'm when I know that you see that you you're
Starting point is 00:40:38 that's chatteando in the we're doing, I'm doing, I'm sure, I'm not attended, me feel invalidated,
Starting point is 00:40:47 because I need attention, or I need to I need to repression, or I need to be able to chatier after
Starting point is 00:40:54 and you, and you can say, no, because it's a call that I have an call to do, and it's
Starting point is 00:40:59 valid, I'm so, I'm, you can't, I'm, and I'm no, and no doesn't,
Starting point is 00:41:06 but it's a communication more effective, and I I do know that we don't
Starting point is 00:41:10 know we're really communicate us we're doing we're learning we're learning and we're
Starting point is 00:41:16 talking about that's what you do you Marlita well thank thank you here I'm
Starting point is 00:41:22 here we're talking about we're talking we're just of the communication and the love
Starting point is 00:41:29 inconditional and of how sometimes we have we have we need to learn
Starting point is 00:41:34 to express the the need when we we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:41:39 and we're more and we're the best way we're doing the way of our experience Carlita, I know you
Starting point is 00:41:45 know you know you to do your person to your mommy that's looking for third occasion
Starting point is 00:41:50 against this cancer and right we're about the important that is for her love of her
Starting point is 00:41:56 family, the love of his family, the time of you're in Phenix you're here
Starting point is 00:42:01 in Los Angeles what's what came to your question? What you would say to
Starting point is 00:42:05 to tell you to tell me to this the third battle counter the cancer. You have
Starting point is 00:42:26 done for living, you have done for to do you know what you're
Starting point is 00:42:34 with different people, with us with your children, with friends, and that
Starting point is 00:42:39 you have much much and the light that iras to us and to all the
Starting point is 00:42:44 people that you know and so I'm really that you know that you
Starting point is 00:42:49 still for being because to be here to be here because you
Starting point is 00:42:54 know that simply there's a there's a a body physical that's
Starting point is 00:42:58 a person and not your spirit but also it's important to have the self-a- and the
Starting point is 00:43:03 care of the person physically and the love that you know I'm really I'm
Starting point is 00:43:10 really a this intervention of Karla my love I'm thank
Starting point is 00:43:17 I'm very I'm for because me has chosen as her mom and she
Starting point is 00:43:21 and her and her three brothers or the more the most little
Starting point is 00:43:25 that's the and the without without the power of their my
Starting point is 00:43:32 life not has been really really frankly not it doesn't because
Starting point is 00:43:34 the life for me for Gabi in the personal the family is the
Starting point is 00:43:39 family is the most important and the love and the love of it is
Starting point is 00:43:44 basic and crucial for me thank my love for how me
Starting point is 00:43:49 percives always it It's nice to listen it and, and, over all the same because I think that's
Starting point is 00:43:55 really, it's that I'm sure that with the love of you're in the power of the love of
Starting point is 00:44:02 the time, with the carino of many people, with the light, standing positive, this battle
Starting point is 00:44:09 is able to love. And, it's still to transcend, transcender in peace, but I know
Starting point is 00:44:16 there are many things for doing, the to be able to carry to the babies in a moment, given that's my mom's, my would be something wonderful, because, well, it's
Starting point is 00:44:27 me to be a baby. I think I'm very maternal, and I'm can't do how I'm. I'm a little bit more. I'm a little bit more. I've got to keep them those barrenas of my ego, that a lot of times not they're going to show me to show them, a self-combe,
Starting point is 00:44:42 a self-a-more-so, and a I think it's me do I'm going to show them. Thank you. Thank you, my my love.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I'm going to much best of my love, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, and to your friends also, and, well,
Starting point is 00:45:10 I'm going to see me very pretty. And, many thanks, Mark, for, for put us in this in a letter.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Thank you, Carlita. I know, this is a very good opportunity. I know that you and
Starting point is 00:45:21 many people of Gabi have initiated because it's a way, it's a way, it's a because Gabi
Starting point is 00:45:28 is for third occasion and that's a question, and ironically, is that this thing for
Starting point is 00:45:33 other program, ironically the security the security only, the only cover the things
Starting point is 00:45:39 the kind of the chemotherap. And it's a thing very controvertido
Starting point is 00:45:44 a new theme for another program completely different. But is if you decide if you decide go for the
Starting point is 00:45:50 option natural, curate with food, curate with the father of the medicine,
Starting point is 00:45:57 Hi, Pocardes that said that the food your medicine, curiously, the secures not cover
Starting point is 00:46:02 what Hippocrates sub-ralleled. So, Gavie has opted in a decision that me is very intelligent,
Starting point is 00:46:09 that at the final of the day is your decision, Gavie, because it's your body and is
Starting point is 00:46:13 your a new life, has decided in this third occasion, not to get to
Starting point is 00:46:18 chemotherapy, but to try to in form naturalist, with food, and this requires,
Starting point is 00:46:24 and this requires a very, very very, and evidently there's a necessity economic because
Starting point is 00:46:32 Gabby has decided to work, to do their therapies, to do all the, what,
Starting point is 00:46:36 what I came doing being doing, as a woman autonom and you,
Starting point is 00:46:40 and has launched a collect between friends on Facebook and Twitter so I
Starting point is 00:46:44 like invite to the people that that's a that's a new to know that a new
Starting point is 00:46:50 something, simply to support to this in this community and this is an initiative
Starting point is 00:46:54 of the family not of the we're around so that you can you can't
Starting point is 00:47:00 you can't what we can't do you do you do it would give forward
Starting point is 00:47:21 and if I am I'm Gabi to my mom okay and I'm
Starting point is 00:47:47 going to put this interview in Facebook and Twitter and I'm going to put there the link or the league
Starting point is 00:47:53 for that you can go to your carlita you know a about a brother you know we're saying we're doing
Starting point is 00:47:58 we're with we're with this moment in this episode so special and so interesting in a grand
Starting point is 00:48:05 opportunity of the growth and but I understand that a level of the heart
Starting point is 00:48:10 and that there's a lot of we're we're talking we're because you live this
Starting point is 00:48:15 directly it's the my is the same that you you can't you can't So I'm
Starting point is 00:48:20 So I'm My Janea Thank you Okay Bye Well, well Well, Well
Starting point is 00:48:33 There's There's a A little A perkeeing A surprise What you When you Your nena
Starting point is 00:48:39 Of your Retoio That's Precouped And it's Puckuck And I'm The first
Starting point is 00:48:45 I'm I remember That I Andela My My kids Carla See Brown
Starting point is 00:48:50 And if They was And Did you To Marcia In the Nones
Starting point is 00:48:53 And then To To be To For the Trottottott Because not
Starting point is 00:48:56 have a second and resolutely, the security not sure
Starting point is 00:49:00 that's a good and I'm going to see that going to get to get a
Starting point is 00:49:05 good, I'm the full of confidence in that all going to do all be
Starting point is 00:49:09 all all going and I think that that's me fortarese much
Starting point is 00:49:14 and see that the day before a year a last a
Starting point is 00:49:19 basically the day first of the first I was going to write you to share with the people that who's going to share with the people that we're going to startare.
Starting point is 00:49:31 But I'm not going to tarotia because I'm very good a cantante, but I'm going to share. Okay. And he said the next. And I'm living. The life does the way knows the way that all we're going to be able. With passes firmes, but suave,
Starting point is 00:49:49 without brinkos, and desperation. Each one transita his rhythm Viviening a day at the best you know
Starting point is 00:49:57 of the tropeas caithes caspones too sacuett the polvo my
Starting point is 00:50:02 brother brindando your man a all to be
Starting point is 00:50:06 a that and cruis your your life when
Starting point is 00:50:11 when you you get you you find you
Starting point is 00:50:14 always to look to the one you your spejo, my my friend.
Starting point is 00:50:22 All we are one, I know. It's a question. I'm sorry in my my alma
Starting point is 00:50:27 to be every time. Every instant in our time you're your time you know,
Starting point is 00:50:42 just he's a man the person you say, I am, I am, I am the truth and
Starting point is 00:50:48 the that you have to live. All we'll get us a day, to return
Starting point is 00:50:53 to a house. The life is simple it's just to live to live
Starting point is 00:50:59 of the truth and that's our work from from the
Starting point is 00:51:03 work the works that you you do you're to
Starting point is 00:51:07 make you do with your sunbrus that you
Starting point is 00:51:11 can you can't can't you can't be the
Starting point is 00:51:15 true of the creator supreme lecress, tenient a artese of his own
Starting point is 00:51:23 confos of meel, tan dulces and suave brothers, all we're to renace. That's
Starting point is 00:51:29 beautiful. You know, I'm, I want, with all, with all my heart. Thank you,
Starting point is 00:51:34 thank you for me, in my spej, because you are exactly the same
Starting point is 00:51:39 that you have said, you know, and if you can be in me is because you do
Starting point is 00:51:43 it's, and I feel very fortunate, very The love is the response.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And the love is in the interior and is the result of to be it. To be it really really, because so is.
Starting point is 00:51:55 No, no, no, there's other thing that not say that. It's a question of, to crearn us a little,
Starting point is 00:52:01 that we're images of God. Much of your life. I love, I'm, my heart. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Thank you. Gavi, G. Gabi, you can't find your page, in your B, and Latina, C-A-W-C-I-G-G-E-G-E.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Gabi Kachia.com and there can, if you want to learn a excellent book, you have your door to the place.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Where can find your book, Gabi? It can't get it in Amazon.com, in Barnesanova. com,
Starting point is 00:52:32 in libraries, Gandhi, in the sotano with me also can also. And can enter also
Starting point is 00:52:37 at the way. And the way is more easy. Ah, okay. The port of
Starting point is 00:52:42 Gabi. com and those two sites of the two sites of And in your program of radio, you'll continue
Starting point is 00:52:49 listen to until and while your health and your therapy, it's because you're going to in Tijuana, in the clinic, Jerson,
Starting point is 00:52:56 for there, in, in, in, in, in, in Tragone, in this cancer, right? So, in where? In Guadalajara,
Starting point is 00:53:01 the people who live in Guadalajara, the people, in the world, the program is the door, and it's also it's also
Starting point is 00:53:08 also in the program in Guadalajara is in the channel 1310 AM of Radio Vital and,
Starting point is 00:53:14 and, you know they don't they're directly in Notysystema.com, which is the station in the station in the place. Or in the page web it's the enlaza directly.
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Starting point is 00:54:01 and until the next.

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