El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 052: El dolor puede ser tu gran maestro, con la Dra. Cabouli

Episode Date: May 14, 2017

Episode number 52. The podcast of Mark, Antonio Regil, is a production of RGL Entertainment, and all his rights are reserved. Welcome to the podcast of Mark Antonio Regil. One of the actions more great, more important, that I've learned in my life, when I did the maestrian in psychology spiritual in the University of Santa Monica, was the form in the way you're relationas with the problem, is the problem. Yeah, for more incovod

that it's The problem No, the problem The problem is How I'm relationo With what is The problem And the episode of

I considerer that is Very beautiful Because we're About, Because we're going to The dolor The dolor The dolor profound

That we're In many occasions Of our life But especially Especially, it's present when We're When we're

A person He's been especially when we're a mom in this time in that we're

we're talking about and the doctora Kabooli, expert in psychology, doctor in

psychology, a therapist that has dedicated years of life, the life,

the personal, to empowerment of other people, we're to comment with her,

we're to share how the the Dolor can be your grand

master. The dolor can be your grand master, it can be the door that you

open the way to the way to the way to be more great, more to be able to

do you the time. Dr. Alilana Kabuli and welcome to the program one once.

I'd go to get the good to the return of the day of the

mothers and the time of the day of the day of the day of my mom and for

telephino, I know you said that you would have been to be here to talk about this theme. I think it's a marvellous

opportunity to talk the time, because always in the Christmas, no important when they're listening this podcast, in Navi-N-N-N-

New Day of the Mathers or the day of the people that not is the people that's exactly. Much thanks

for having me invited to about a time so profound and so important, because as you know,

I also, I mean, I also I've lost, a little before you, a year before you both. And so it's a process very hard and I'd like to share it to be able to

to share it. So, you know, to be normal to the people who they're to live it and know what can get to to get to live it. Sure, because

we have to pass that this. That's not, that's notews, because a lot of the life of the yeah, but it's something special.

Let's, in some form, if what we can do you can't help us to do it to do us to be done for

well served and content. Because it's a It's a something that nobody is a lot It's a

It's a It's a When a When someone someone No, it's One of the He's

well, okay Poor person He'd dolear And he He'll be And he That's

That person But the But the Dorme of a Mordes Anergetically A lot

Fertissippe Thinka that your Moma You took in the Panssa You're

The first person That was That did a Bess that did to come To give

to come the Pannels was the first person that you gave a carino that you mirro. So it's a

really a relation very profound and very very important how it's been much more than the father. Muchissimo more than the father.

Muchissimo more than the father because it's something. Physically we're not the is the

pain. For me, no, they're the death of a child. Of a a child.

It's terrible. But the the murder a mother is terrible. It's a problem

impressive. For this that I am saying. More than how you you have you have been your

mother, how has been your relation with her, there's been very profound nobody nobody knows

more than our mom. It's an more, it's an love completely unconditional, completely

inconditional. One, a mother always really the good for his so.

So, is to what I think you, I don't what you senties you, but I

certainly that the It's like if it's like if you it's like the ballance and it's like you're like you're

like you're just like you're like you're like that's because the woman and the mother is like the base of

it's like in what relationship has had been if you're a person that's a person that's

a anchor it's it's like you you're getting in the middle of the only.

It's all the feeling to be the world you're no matter it's that's the

the of the it's a feeling a start a little bit of but I've

done the sense of being a little bit that's a thing that's a problem is something

that I'm I don't I'm I've seen about this I'm when someone it was

but no the one I think I don't know I'm I think I'm

I think I'm I think I'm that you because it is that you're

that you know that's that you're that You've played all your life, with the

that you rancable the with the and the it's a there's a just a time,

it's a it's a it's a man and he did the time and it's you know, that you

that's that's that's that's very well that's in that position

in that you're so you then you're so it's question a important. The murder you

make a thing, what is important? For what we we're doing, what we're we're doing, what we're

I know that the life terminate, and it's and you have been in front of our,

and where I'm going to put my time in this life. Personally, in my situation,

I'm I'm did that you never you do that you know, when the

doctor, I mean the name of my name, and the thing, the things material,

no important, but not you're not you're those titles too, because my

mother was my mom, I'm not you don't you don't you don't you

you do you have to do you have other people is the only that it's the experience in the life and for so I took that decision to do that's a big because the is immense. It's immense the is a dolor, it's an dolor agovient and very strong. It's a way. So, yeah, it's a

person that me gave the life and, you know, one knows that exists the but what you say is very real. One is to know that exists the and I've seen people around that had fallened, or the some of the

people or the parents or my perrita Lucy that's my person who the world

when she when she when she when she she's the day this that I was

the day that I had fallen and they had been for her and they got

in a ballsa that was the moment that was the moment I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm so it's

how can be that this moment of that Negation.

It's saying, no, it's a. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, it's not, no, no, it's, it's a time, but no, no,

no, no, no, no, can't be past, and that's, and that night,

that's, that's, that's, you're with a heart, okay, are things

very very furs, that, there's, that's to be a other than, to start,

to, you, and you, and you, you're the most important And I think that if

were born in a Rath, I would have done more attention to my mom. Because, before she were she

said, Lily, getate, a bit, and I'm and I'm and I'm I've liked

to have been and I'm never used to your life is your time and share it. And so, those are

things that you're going to know. So, it's the mother, more the thing,

the sensation of that we've been comingando with the life. If you you're

to the life, how you live with how you to live your life? What decisions

you're going to what decisions are going to apply? Where are you are the question things that are the problem? I know,

I've passed a single day of my life since that she has gone to the world, I know the and see the

skylo and be a totally completely dispegated of what it because I know that I'm that I'm

still I'm here and even I did a way, and I was part of this planet, part of this world,

although I know that I'm being a spiritual, having a experience physical, etc.

But now literally I'm like I'm like I'm in a lot of a little that I'm

when I'm when I said that had had fallen his mom or his well, so I'm

so I'm a lot of a brand a brother and I say well it's part of the

life they're in a but not I didn't I'm not I'm the

dimension of the profound of the profound the problem and that

so it's another thing the the before and before the

fallycement exactly. Exactly. And it's you're to romp and you have to

rearmar and reconstructry. But I think it's something because if you know, if you

understand that the death, how you do you have to do you do you?

You can't go and you can't even life the same way that you live in the thing, because that's

to have to be a invitation to a reconstruction, to the person and to use and to and to work

the disapego. To work the decage because you have to get to be and there's many ways

to work personally I'm doing the personalalement, I'm doing this is that you're in a little and when

you're used to you're used to get to do? You think of you're not you're going to get to? Well, okay,

listo. Now I'm have to get to get. So, you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know a good connection, and then's you're going to have to have to go. Adios. Chau.

I'm going to go to this is only the moment. So, you're going to understand

more. All this this is about this is about this time. You're going to gore in the world.

So, in every, I imagine. Greece, and Europe, and places marvell to do you,

to get it, to hear, to hear, it was a support. No, supported the pain

that I'm down the that had to make to a grand transformation and the grand transformation when you

you're you're you're to start in a structure, comodidity and the habits

you make you feel to get into but the really that I know it's every every year

yeah I'm okay I'm okay I'm okay I'm kind of I'm a little bit to

go to a other thing to now I'm to go to another thing so all that

so all I'm able to put to put a to put a to be to be to be

to get but not different to make a mom or someone that

I'm a It's a practice. A me a train- a partied to Lucy, the partied of

my perrita. Yeah. It's a very much when she's going to be the year. In a

period of a year, in the year, in May, the year, it's exactly that she went she's

she's a, and I'm like, because Lucy, for me was like a little, like a

little, like, it was my little over my year with the level of the

, of my mother. But, me, me prepared the heart, me prepared the sentiment,

for the most it's a little bit of a lot of a lot of you know, I'm not a lot of

my parrita. I'm also in a year first my parrach, and then however, to me

not me prepared it. Because I didn't do you do that my mother, my

daughter, no, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was a, part of

a, a parrita, no, no, no, no, no they're

not different to, it, it was all together. But the most

important that I think we have to explain to the people is that it's normal feeling a lot and that it's a

time, it's a process long, of subidas and of and the subidies and and we're

a tendency to gethous to get nojo, to be inoj and re-question us all to other

form. For me personally, what I see is that I'm very clear in where I'm going

I'm going to think I do you know when I'm do you think to have a very important

for me. Yes. Very important. Because apart, you know, starts to count the years, how many

years I get here, supponient that not be a part of of an accident and me go to

or I'm going, but supponient that I'm to do that the estimated, 70, 80, 90,

90 years that's the most of the people. Exactly. You've lived more to the

middle of your life. In general, the people of the 408 to the 506, 60.

That's is the epoch. So those are the crisis of the median age, more

to your parents, more an evaluation of your life. But of this has to be a great

conclusion. A grand conclusion. What we have to explain to the people to get to that this pain and great

and so there not there to take to anti-depressives or, or think that one is cure in three

minutes, but what is transform is a invitation, is a invitation. That is a question

interesting and that's a thing. Because many people and some known or

companions of the school, me get a to say, no, the

school, no, because in the school we're in the university of Santa

Monica, not they're in those things. But other people were saying, take a

something, take a something, take a passie when, especially when me d'

that I'm feeling that I was a attack of a panic. It was an attack

of a panic of what would be able to get to get to the camera.

And I Thank you, thanks a God, today, I'm going to computeras, and I'm

put to look to look at a normal. Because if, if no, I thought, I thought, you said that

the night is the problem when you when you're to get to me to get to the morning with an angustia.

It's an sense of desasone. Horribus. This is the world, I'm only in the world. This is,

God, and the morning and the morning. It's horrible. The abrid the eyes, and like, and,

like, it's true, it's true, It's a fallacy. Passed. No, no, it was a swenio. And for what I

am I'm a question. But much people said, Marko, Tomate a pastilla. Marco,

does this. Marko, I'm starting to recommend 20,000 pastillas, one literally drug,

anti-depressive, and other things more naturalitas that me help them to do you do the

superaliments that we talked about here with the chef Miguel Bautista, except to

that, no recurry I have recurried to any other other things. He's done pure herbs and food

and food but you like a doctor like a professional of this what you recommend?

I'm not recommend pastillas because because for me that's a curita

a a little something to get to get to get a something

we're we're we're to get to we're to get to

we're we're we're we're we're But no. But no. Because this is to live it.

We have to have to grab it, have to experimental, have to permit it. When you're to get to

quiet, you're getting the pain the pain transformartes in other person. I said the

same as well. I went to a Thailand and do you. I'm going to a, I'm a return of gymnasia.

I'm doing a gymnasia five hundred hours per day. Then I went to a

year deirdeva in the India, of yoga, of meditation. There, in the yoga and

meditation when me When they said, gette quiet, when they said, gette quiet, the the dolor was of terror, and not saw how to do support it, because it's a

a lot horrible, that you know what you have to support. It's like a lot of physical but emotional. And that is the important. Now, how I'm I'm, I'm going to get that this was, I feel like I'm

like I think the things clear as, like no me interests the things that me interested in the more than much less than

I needstead. I don't want I need, like I can't tolerate many things that I'm not able to tolerate because I'm more

really more because of the I put in a position in where I had to transform to me and it and I got to and I'm

put to dispegare so all the things that had been for me that me amalghable the life

and me angustea now now it so dimensioning does what you what you say

is of the D. Eckhart Tolly, the author of The New The Power of Two Libros

Marathiosos, not facies to understand that I'd recommender you for all. But if you can't

get books precious. I'm He says, he says that the pain for much people

is the best alia that can have been the conciences, the way is the

point to the point to the time. And I'm my mother, was to do

a return of five interesting, it was a programed from the first. When my

mom fallacy, Liliana, you know, I'm going to I'm a little bit enojated,

at the first, because I knew it was because I'm going to get her, or she was,

she was, she was, she was, with the morphina and was doings, I was, I'm, yeah,

I said, because not you go, so, But in reality, what you're saying is, no support more, to suffer, no support what I'm sorry. You know,

that all is what we're always the egoism our own. It's always, it's always, it's always, it's being our own own.

No, I want to support, and I don't support this a lot. To be the same, my mom also,

I also, that's the momented, that when I read the photo's of my mom. And it's, you've got to live,

because I I promised I I was to start with her all the time until the time until the she was in the

hospital and I'm going to be in the hospital and I'm going to be a person and I'm not a person who

never got to I'm not over I don't know I'm going to see, I'm there, I'm doing my life like nothing

but in this moment I decided confront her because I didn't want that she was always

she was gonna to be able to be and I'm can't cry. A person a person

can't connected with my my mom was super She was an aligh. He loved

to the landerranal. The lotterrenal. I used the things, to be able to do that

me. I mean me more more the spiritual than she was so a ragged to the

earth. To be there to die to do you like, wow, God, my.

This is like, this is like a very much, the moment that you're I'm

I can't I'm like a timeing because he's died, and I

last 24 hours I had had already programmed a final in the

university of Santa Monica. So, then I don't know 24 hours after I'm

in the school, and I'm in the school, I'm the way to do you yeah, I'm going to do you

have programmed this tally he's programmed to before I'm so it's not four, four, five days there and he

about that that's a for much, is the better because it's a point, the door the pain, the

problem you do you dole, and you make and you're to understand, and revalororororal, what is what really is

important in the life and what is what is what is important? something. Something else for me very impactant

was that after the my mom and never had declared this in any my career in television is

much less important. Sure. Exactly. Much less important. Totally. And,

my career in television had been my life. Sure, clear, because there is the

ego in all this. You know, the television. There's to the ego. A lot of my career

no dejo to be important. My patients passed to be more important. That's. Because my

career, my job is assist to another in their and my mission in the life, my functionality, for what I'm in this universe,

that's incremento and what he's the increase is the a lot, zapato, cars, cars,

auto, all that's, it was, it was not me not me interested about. Because what what most

me interested is, okay, if I'm here here in this world, is to be something, is to be

to do it, not it's not a pen this life. And that's a good. It's a I'm a

a, with a, a process very difficult, that's the suffering, that's a suffering

profound, that's a revalorization of what what is the important in the life is very, a me,

I mean, not was that the television, but my career in television, me deja really to

really to get really to get, but the emphasis, and I said, I'm saying, about my

friends with my people, I'm, now that we are, we're doing,

I'm, I'm, I can't do programs of concurs. Because that's what the television is

where I have my career and it's what you want to do you want to do you do do you want to have a relation

of long-plasto. I'm with the good I'm doing the other no I'm not in contra, but what I want to do

podcast, like the podcast, like the program of radio and internet that's really like that the idea. But I never never had

been done with the executive in a negotiation of this form, where I'm

the message that we're doing through the social and the podcast, this is you we're doing this is

this is the practically one of the few reasons for the ones for the the same to keep living.

Exactly. Exactly. That's the same. That's the same. It's the same.

It's a higher motivation, a motivation more up. If I'm going to live in this world that

terminate, and I know when, that has a sense my life. That my

life has sense. And, to get to your house, rent to, not have a car, not have

a car, not have a and a baliha, that's what you that's what you do you, it's ephemer, and it's

to be a disheaval, in the disapegu. No, it's interesting when you know, I've done much for

work, that I've got to get to a month to be a year, and I

know I'm doing to live with a malet. Total. And I go to I'm,

I'm my house, but no I need to the closet, no need to the new things, no I need to the

television, no need to nothing because I'm able to live with a valisa, with a maleta. Exactly. And that is

exactly what you say, because I have my clothes to do you know, I'm not quite a little, my house, but

I'm going to use that role, I'm going to get to do that me, I'm going to me this rop, I'm going to give me this

thing, but, it's really, all the problem. And also the the time of the relations of the relationship,

also. What type of relations of a pair of you want to have? Also, with more valor. Yes. All the conversations. Or the conversations that have value.

Not being talking to me sepillers this morning and me peony the hair. What is important? Because the life is short. Where is that

you're going to do you? Where is to apply? For me, fundamentally, what I made is get to be

more vulnerable and say, okay, I what what more I have to learn to the other is my experience. It's what

I experimented in my life, all the opportunities that I did a me,

to do this life, and I'm going to share the people, I'm going to say, this is what

I'm going, this is what I live. And that's the, the master, the pain, the power, the power that

is your master, or it's a one thing you want to do you want to not an

depressive, and no creces and much people get margated in the life and

never in the life evolution. So, that depends of the way that

it can be my grand maestro or something that's exactly. Because it's something that's something that's inviting to do a change of values. Okay, listen to me, the life has finitude,

terminate. How will you get? No matter when you it's going to live. How will you? What you're going to do? What is important? What is important? And that no is. And you I think sincerely, I have changed amist, I've done

a lot, I've done a world to I mean I learned, I learned I learned to be alone completely solo in this voyage. And, and, also, to enjoy it. For the while, when you know you know to be alone and you're do you're doing, all of that

no is a necessity. Because me I did count, too, yendos to be right and thinking the things from a point of view more, more, more, more, more grand, that in reality, we do do things, not want to be not just to be with this

people, so I'm, then I'm do this, I don't want to be eat, I'm going to eat, this cuisine, I'm going to come to the house of this person.

And all for agendas. And I I'm promised to not to have more agendas. And when you learn to

do you know, because the death is solitary, nobody is going to be to do you. Nobody's going for you.

You're going to do you. So, you're to do you. But nobody is going to move to you. As you

nobody's for you, as your life is your life. And nobody will be to learn

to you, you how you how you? Responsibility. To have, this is my life. Be a duaneo of you. Ser dwego of you. And the only way, and you know, because I've

had been difficulties in my life, like a person chronically casada, that I'm chronically casated all my life, that I know saw it, because never had had had been a experience. Me obliged to learn to start

a lot, and at the principle is a sustant. Because not only only so I'm decided to be decided to be alone. Sola, I did all. Chau, bye. One desintoxication.

Total. It's like if you to have to have to come to and I learned to start and I'm going to

say, okay, yeah, I'm going to be able to be able to be now. So, all the election, yeah,

nothing is obligation. And it's a total liberty. The election comes of the liberty. It's total

liberty. A man, he's going to visit and me say, hey, what do you want to

you know, I'm not, Flaco, I'm sure, I don't need to do you need to company,

because I have my company and I'm just, I'm the Gavent. No, I

elijo your company. I'll elizue. It's not it. It's not I can't enjoy the

company of other person. But no I need. So, so. So, when you not need

then you do things of the real. Vienen things of the because all

what is agenda is to the ego and it's a lot. And a sometimes, we're

going to a pause but with a thought, we're a sometimes

the the of the profound and desgarerado of the person or a period of

a period of a style of the life, of the time, of what you you know, that you know,

that's the profound that can't be the master that that's a real real that

totally. Okay, we'll be after a pause. We'll talk, I'm Mark,

Antonio Regil, the doctor Lilianna Kabuli is with us we're

talking, and we're, oh, the time, is the the DOLOR

like a master. The Dolar as a great master, if it's a grand of you. Okay? For example,

for my mom, it was very important that I was married a couple. She had a very important. So, when she was important, that's not important, from the point of view that I have to complaculate to her. Yeah, I have the right to choose if that's what I'm more want to hear in my life.

Entendez? Emptychance, a lot of the expectations that sometimes our fathers have been with us, and we're not without, we're doing to give us to work, for what quite, also, also came in a moment of liberty. Okay. And all of what I did in my life, how many life. How do this

what this is because I want to do? How do what I did have complaised to my mom? How do this has to be that is acceptable

in my family? You know, it's? The liberty total. Why? Because you know the

fact. This is it and not you get us. You know, you've used? You've put your mom in a

bolsa? What is the body? A rope. A rope. So, all dedicated to do

the body. So, dedicated to the be a bigger's to that we know what we know

where it's it's not the thing we're in a business and then that's that we're going to

develop more the the soul or the ego and the and the people who people who

have to you have to live the life after the of the 40 and up

to the way you you're making a way you you're you're you're

you're so you can't get to you can't get to you

because not so you is apegated to your ego. For that's the at the end uprode-s the time

the time. So, you're going to start to start to get, and make to make it's a more genuine

and more honest to to you. That's what I discovered for me. And it's a sensation

of much liberty. That's, I'm going, and it's liberty. MENTR MENTUS

MENTUS M there's a thing I'm that I need, you know, you know, you know,

you know, I want to have a program of television. And me made up three days to offer me a program of television.

Horrible. Horrible, the program of television. It was an thing. So, he said,

you're going to no. No, no. I don't do you want to do this program of television. In other

another time, I was questioned more. You said, yes, because I wanted to have a television.

But really, I don't want to be in the television doing that. I'm not really.

You know, to talk to the point of view of that you want to be I can't choose, you know,

because for more that I desire something, because I'm going to not I'm going to that's a pegate to that's, because the life has

a final. So, how I'm going to live? I'm experimenting the naturalness in this moment. I'm

do look at the mar. Disruto of a massage, I'm a conversation profound, I'm,

I'm a coffee with someone that I'm I'm do, I'm a, of an amistad,

disruto of something, of the moment, of the beauty of this universe.

Of the hour, of the here and the hour. But thanks to give to get to it's that you

know, it's that is eternal. Not that's eternal. All this you can do you know

to do you know what you do not, because you did you dole of the don't know more indications,

you're all the life because your mom was, 25 years when you're because your mom did you

know, I'm not because you never creciste you, never did you understand

for what this life? Because because I'm because pastillas or per

to have to be a bit more that's it's it's it's entendible and I don't

do you know I'm not the I'm really because the problem is so

desgerado and so profound and I think I'm I'm I'm

you know you know you don't not you don't know let's let's

do you simply people who didn't even that's I'm a question and I'm a

a postilla or the the of the rodilla or or me took a passi

to eliminate this dolor of if nobody me it's so valuable that you like you

like you like you like you do you're doing like and I'm doing it's trying to

comment my experience because I am a human and I want to my profession

and what I study in my life I'm applied to my life okay and other

things is that too what you sometimes you're you're sometimes you can't

understand what you you can't you know there's there's What's saying, what they can't say? But it's important to have a system of support.

That someone can't give a brazo, that you can't lie in the shoulders of a person, that someone wants to be there for you? Because it's very hard, and that's a way of being curing that's a lot. I remember one day I was in the India doing yoga and meditation,

and me agarro a pain that's not going to go, I mean, you've got to be a psychologist to someone, yeah, because I don't want to, no, I know what to do do with this. So, so I'm a psychologist.

I go, me, I don't want to I mean, I want to. I mean, I'm I'm trying, I'm trying to, but my mind, yeah my emotion is so strong that I can't think more. Sient you're a,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm, I'm, and I'm, I'm, and I'm doing a lot, and I'm very good. Very well, because after there's me

back the pain, because the pain, it's like, with, up, and back, sub, and back, sub, and up, especially when there's

when there's to learn your life. That's it. That's all the not only if you're your mom but also

every thing you have to get a person you're going to get a person to you're going to do you

know what I'm I'm going to the podcast anterior and I'm going to this is that that's the pain so

so that so they're so they're every 30 seconds and they're in an intensity enormous

and then they're in a two minutes and then after 10 minutes and then after

every hour and so that's allas so those there are more there's

there more there What that is a depression horrible. A tristesse. A trestess. A problem.

A perdida of the direction that you have to reencontra. But the but the but the dolor that's,

I mean in olas. I mean, I was going to soyo-sand in the car. But now I hear those same songs

and you know no soyoso. What that is a triteza. A tristesa. A, a lack of

a, but it's go, it's going. So, what I'm what I'm going.

So, it's because I'm I don't know I'm not sure that my life's a So the good news is that

it's going to know, but it's all over but my life is the same yeah no I'm the same Liliana,

yeah no is the same life and you know me interest to the same things. It's a new chapter and that's a

new chapter you have to have a XWZ important for you're important for you know for you're important for

but I'm this question for all the people who is this time that's the people who's the muri

who's the day of the mother, if you would be to be a and a and you

would be to be in your time? I'm very much and it was said yeah

in various occasions I'm a lot and I would be my mom, the

would be a let me let me that I would say what I'm

and practicary more this disapegue to have a reason in the conversation and simply

you let me let me me an aback a me a bow me a a brao and

to be to belear less with her. Exactly. Because one of the things that I understood, and I'm a mother and I said to my daughter, I go,

look, Yelan, you can't feel like one, bad, all the you can't say, but I say that the day that you

will be a doleer much. And I want to do it to do it as the way, like if all the day

I'm going to get to the next. What are you do you do do you? What are you if you would

have been to be more to my mom? Okay? Because I no time. Because I had to

do this, have to do the other, it has the other, it has to do, it has, it has to do, have to do, have to do, have to do, have to do,

and I'm a de via to another, have, it has, and I'm, to do it, not he'd have attention. No, she'd had to be, and I'd say it,

and I was, not it, no, it was sensible to your necessity. Because I thought that, oh, that's a bad, that's just over,

I'm going to do a day, I'm I'm really, I'm the only that's the only that, this, no, have been more, and not have been

more, and not I said love. Now, the last day, before she was we made sure of our relationship and we we made a pardon mutually and she said, I mean what most

me doiled in the life is that you when you went to when you went to my life, of what I did during my life and he said, and

I said, I said, because in reality, I never made that this. Because, you know, Mark, there's a

thing, I'm, I'm a mother, I'm sorry, I'm not, we, we're just, we're not really we're not

understand because you're not you're not a mother. But I tell you I'm going to say. The mothers we're just

we're not much to do you but so much so profoundly that every that's the thing is you get a

the blood and are so important for us that that every thing that you do you dole with all the

heart infinite. What I could reconstruct of this is all what I keep okay with my

mother and I want to my relation with my my son much better, has to be the more.

Because I want to that she understand, like in the Bible says, honor to your parents, that she has

me has been to honor for the because the day that I'm going to, she will be, she will

let go to go, she's, she did what correct with me, that she did it,

he's, and I'm and I think that the pain, I think, when you think you

did the things like the things, like, and a we're in

we're just so idiotized for the everyday to live, like we're going to go to get to

$2,500 years paying things we're doing, we're we're doing, we're all.

So, so for the mother, that they're that they're attention to your mother,

that's that I'm doing, I'm doing a day to my mom, my mom,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to get to feel free. I'm going to

be what you need to be what you want, no, I don't want to Discuting, not to

be able to be happy. What are you to be able to be to be able to be to get a lot. But what I mean is that there's a

moment where we have to have a compassion for our parents. And we have to give to give us, love inconditional, respect inconditional, and honor them,

and to just give us and to think of all the disgrace of our life have to because you know, not are all the just all the

things only the things, and the things specials that we have our lives that we're thanks to

our people, it's just those things that they, of a repent, they can't seem or difficult are the

are the heart of the heart of the other things, even when they're in the words, is that they're not commences.

They're not, they're saying, they're saying, they're saying, that's, you are you, you are you're you're always

for me, not you've never for me, me, you're much attention, me did you get a little, I've put this,

and you put this, everything is a thing, is a defect. Because, because, because we're we're looking

because we're looking the most the man, but a person who the most the

person that's the most the most the most the way I'm going to I'm still I'm still

still still but I'm much more more than the moments of the most me consoled was to record

the moments more than I get to get to backcations when I let me get back again

apart the that's your mom of your mother of you know my my son

Mark Antonio Regil look what you look at what you look at the radio and

she she's she's sure she she sent she She said to you She's what you

And she grew for you be a person exitosa and a person that was she was like you like you're like she did you

She's not she said, oh, how you're doing you to do you get to do you put up? She's what you

She did you in you know what you're I'm sure you was to create in my dreams because not all those

those people don't know those kids because of his parents and that was part of her she's part of

her monja she was a man her Prohibition that was a cantate.

So she not did that because his father. Not because his not because

they're decades after the the best of their way was, and they were, and to

say, they were to be to not in the church, and the person,

so the form of to be to make her in those times, in 1, 1930-

and- -tank- when she was when she was, it was, to

the people, and to go to the world. And so she did do you

a lot of her. So she to do you know how it. it's a a to do not have to planch or to to cook,

to do you. You're a one of the one of the person, you know, you know, every time that's I'm going to be

my wife, I'm the best, you know, you know, this, the other and pay them to do it, do you another, do it, and do it,

other for her. I mean, my mom, me appreciate as a woman, and I'm, I'm, because that's

me, to have a price and a value, a good to have the money that's never, never never ever

never, never, no, see, no, keep, keep, with this. No, no, no, this is my

this is my daughter. And she me to be a play, to do therapy, she did 10,000 years of therapy, to change, to care, to better, and to be always better. Alta autoestim. My mom learned, of being a woman typical of the women of the antes, that were submitted, to be a person that not was

a sometka. My papa is a super exitoso, with a character impressionantly strong and super intelligent and spectacular in many ways, but very controllable, and he wanted, and he could put her to put her back to her. She never she was

it's my mom was an example in all the family a icon of a woman that was over other women

and that's part of my mission in the life. So, my papa was a person that's the

most me he was the that was the little was the little of my father, but my mom

me gave that example and I have a and I have a important to help the because I think

my mom me came so much and I wanted so much things for me that I

learned to learn And that's all I can't feel and so I can transmit to other women. It's incredible how we're

a repetition or a, a continuation of what were our parents. It's all reparation and continuation. It's all repetition,

reparation. It's that what no is this, it's both, so it's both. It's good when you're people, you know,

to do you do this? How do I go to make my autoestim? Look, to make sure to do your life.

And develop your potential. Desorroogeat your potential. Because we're that when not we don't

develop our potential, we're not the point of your heart of the question to

because right that's the not a woman that's in the I'm going to do you and I was I was a mother. I needed a little and that was just a little bit of me help. And all of this is something that she was going to be saying. But the point

that I want to say is that a woman is necessarily a one is necessarily one a single thing. Not all the women of the world have to have children to have been to cast. Not all the women have to dole-ZE, because the society is a lot of it. A woman is an extremely valuable and that's a man. That's a great. That's a great. That's a great. And every ever

there's more more more the world is changing much much more it's a lot of

it's always and I'm so I'm because I'm know I'm not even because I'm not even

not me interest in absolute. No me it's not to be a man, and be able to be a

other one of the one of those passions is just to just to help us to help

to come to come to be a obviously to be our sensibility

and to get that the where we can't we can't manifest our emotions.

I know that you know that passion for helping to and to do the women and to when we'll come when we're going to the pausita

we're talking we're talking about this master that you have the door for the person when we're when we're talking

to mom, to be a moma there's a very delicate in our culture latina where one

one thing is to love a mom and to do the more that we're doing the thing is

living in a cup that trying to make a that's that's co-dependence

that's that no is We'll come back. Yes. After the messages, we'll be able to this. I'm Mark Antonio Regilly. We continue to the podcast,

the doctora Liliana Kabuli, today, about how the door us open the door for the personal, how the dolor could be our

best, even in a period when something something like the perdard of a man or a person who's especially,

when that's when that's when that's when it's the point, and I'm I'm mentioning to something,

I, that I, that I, that I, that I, that I, that I, I don't know

obviously I know what I'm going to do the rest of my real things was to find that one of the question to

love with all my car to my mom, be a good child, be a good responsible, be a more

and be a distance a certain because there there were many many occasions in the lack of

boundaries. Yes, the barriers, the distances because I was not only only obligated

but I felt that the only way that I could be a good person human

man, and be a good son, was a recatting a mother. It was I like a victim my father

my papa her little his first marital he put the querno and my my father

not they did that that was a story, she was a very positive she was a good,

but she was the story that was she was a poor was a poorsita. What the

was what you did you commit you a commit you a error that is a

graveissimo and that you know to do say that in the do you do

do you know to fill your necessities emotional contigues. The children not are to fill up

in the needs emotionales. That's a lot of the mothers of women, especially mothers solteras

of the children. I said, he was like his maritit to let me talk about the he was like

my maritit because me my maritit because me accompanied the , he was literally like like your

family but then then I'm then I'm made a and I sent me tried

because my mom, oh, I'm, like, I'm, I'm, I'm a couple of, and I'm gonna go to be in the

kitchen or in the cellariened with his friends, or with my friends, because I am sure, me to do you, and I'm gonna

do it, and I'm, I'm gonna do, it's a, and I'm gonna a lot of, but he caused a,

my name, a conflict, enormous. I'm like, it's so adorable. Now, I'm gonna be too,

I'm, the thing, I'm, I'm, was, the way, he's, I'm,

was, position. It's a position pesied and denser. You can't carry with that. You can't you're going to you're going to

you're going to you think I'm I thought I thought I thought I'm in the measure in the measure in that I could

rescat and that you not is the same to not that no, that's but I'm

but I know, but I know the but I'm what you know that was a person was a part was

a parent and many that's act that way that's that's a that is a that's a thing

that's a thing I don't think, honor to the parents, I said, sacrifice your life and not

have any life and not do you know to do that's not for your parents. That's not the children

have to be your life and your children do you do your needs to be your own time.

But your mom, that's the other time. So, you're going to the family Latinas, is a

infirm totally. And I'm totally. And not I'm just just going because no there

the books that you there would be podcast and YouTube and no

there all the things that we We're energetically and spiritually for some because you've

been to be able you've been you've got used you're quite occupant of the place. You know, you know,

it's typical the capricornianos that are like maduritos when are chiquit my nietit is a capricorn and it's a

manorito I'm just a responsibility I remember that I remember that I'm I'm sorry I'm

I'd say and I'm and I'm and I'm because you because you're just my

men say you're my I was a rebel. My my brothers were all and they were saying

things around they were in my time, and I said, you're more in a question, and I'm and I'm

really, and I know what I'm saying, well, the way, you're going to try to try to do you, and you're going,

and you're going, and I was a kid, and I said, I said, I'm saying, I'm going to, where you're

because you didn't, because you're because you compared and criti, they're, they're

they're that's like And not like you. No, they're not you're trying to put a car. That you'd say to do. You were just,

you were sure, you're saying the things in the front and you're saying, I'm doing the and I'm doing and I'm doing it. And I'm doing it.

And they're saying, so that's not disposed to do. That's what you wanted to do. And that's what you did appreciate. And that's,

because that's a game of competition. That's a game to put a other to us to compete. To see? To see what? Did you what he did

What you did to do You know, you To do you Do you need to You know And resentir Because they're Doing what I

Do you do Because they're To do you Exactly This is all Aterana mental In that I meted

I'm meted And then And then And then And then And then And then To get

To get I'm Yeah, I'm Yeah, I'm To be Or of what I

could To be to help to do To be It's It's It's a

It's a question For the I'm not saying that has I'm not going to they're saying they're saying they're in

their culture Latinas is precious to love a papas but where I'm that ralita in where I'm going to be passing and I'm trying

to be happy and I'm feeling my life for care to rescat-a my parents. The parents you have to have to

eat of or that type of things. You have to present respect and visit them but your

life is your life. When you you're doing when you're a adulto your life and

has to have to be your priority. Also a Sano, no He doesn't

that's a life because you know, because you want to have their own own that's the problem when a

person who doesn't covering the life. No, I'm having you go back to do you guys, we're going to

have a life and I know the people that hear this because I know the people who

hear from they're going to be sure. Everyone want to do you the game is,

Necessing is to love. We, the doctor Kabuli, I propose to love,

not need, and the The love is without agenda inconditional okay and it's

a profound and it's the love is dar the love is it's care okay when you when you're

when you when you're when you want to give you know to give you get a lot to give you

get to the love is dar but when one person you know you know that you've

that you your mom that you want that you was because you know you're not you're in

you're you're sent discarded when someone wants to you I said that was the only

man that he had been my father, your abel said, no me, no me, he said,

my, no, he said, my, my, my, my, my,

my, my two people are my did you know because I don't have been a monja,

I should have been a man, he's the only man, you're the only he's the only man, he's

he said, I'm sorry, I, sent him a person, because I was a little when I said

that she said, I don't know but that you, you did you know you

cargues that you did it complicated for the relations to be able to know, because I

know I'm sorry that I'm doing that's the love is the love is the amount the love

the responsibility is a the love is a sure you no no no, you don't know

I'm not this I'm this I'm this is a this is a car again this is a cargap

so if I'm so then it is this duality where where

there's because there there are many moms solteras that are people who are the

kids who are that they're in those kids so I'm not I'm not not I'm doing my mom I'm with all

my heart and I'm no no it's a it's a I'm a all the parents that we're gonna

that's a lot of that you're having a time you're you're doing a lot more to get a suicide and you

can't more you can't more carry and for other other other other

other I'm a I'm sure you the world, to do you all the like they're because in

they're not it's a why it's a duality where it's like okay, it's kind of that's a

relationship, mom, and the child where the little a little a wife or a woman,

it gets to come to be to happen. Not it not is a but not is that one is that one

I'm back I'm sorry what I'm what I'm my responsibility to saner what what happened, because if I don't know

I don't know I'm ever in the life, a relationship a relationship a lot of a marriage. Because that's

a endogamical. Endogamic. Endogamic. It's like, are parents that pretend be a parent of the children.

My papa also is a little endogamic. So that's, that's a cargap, I'm a child, and I

have to be your wife, and I'm going to be the person that's like a problem, but I'll repeat.

many things pesed. Because if I had been never in my life would have been

to be able to see a not. I'm used physically for my mom. So,

I'm I'm appreciate. Because, I'm going to do you know what to say,

no more than your doctor. Yes, for the question, if you're you know,

you know, you know, you know, if me is, you know, if you made, you know, to do you

do it's for a person to help you to be able to do the system for the Social

will have a You know, it's a million of the there's a opera. Oprah, Oprah,

I've lived a real real estate. Oprah, and it's doing all the world. Because the things are for you helpes

to the other. The lives and you're going to do you know, we've got to not come to not come back nothing.

And that's the pain that's a great master, not only for you, but for the people, because when

you're going to your story of the other people, and the solution, and how you did the world to the world, that's that's a bit in

inspiration. Well, we see in, there many me can't, when I think it's a movie based on the actual,

these stories of triumph, wow, me move in the heart, me inspire, and I'm, I'm connected with that person.

Sure, because you're a person who did you guys this, I think to my patients, we're going to

to you're going to your family this time. This time. After the case we're not we're going to we're going to

all the life for this. How can't be going to be rationales? This is a an inversion. How's time you're going to

do you know? What I think we need to learn in the life to not have always always with the problem?

But so it's always a bit bit more. A addiction. Exactly. So you have to understand. Muriel my

mom and is a dolor and I'm this dolor and every time that does it mean It means

that I have to transform how I'm going to transformer? What I'm going to do you have

to make to make a more more more than I'm about this, less this, men's the other more assertive

whatever, whatever, whatever, that's the secret of the that's repeated, I'll be

to repeat. Every that you know, it's a signal of that you have

to turnus it's a problem. It's like when you're a doctor, you the doctor's the medical

the You know the pastilla, sentity better. The homeopaths, the acupuncturists, the racetrists, the curate to

you know, change to your body, your food, and then that's the cure just to do it. One thing is to work in the

symptom and other thing. In the the root. In the the race of where it's an emergency,

I can't work. I'm a to work to the, to the right. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. There's, there. The, the, the can be your grand maestro. The dolor is the grand maestro.

Where did you that someone grew up? Let me. Think a moment of a legre that you've creased. Not you've

done. You're 100% reason. But still being a election. For that I go because if is definitely.

I'm sure. The dolor is the great maestro. It's that is that you're going to put in situations dolorousas.

No, will exist. But the suffriment is optional. How do you you're going to put to do you?

You're a lot horrible? What's you're doing? That's is the task

that you're What I'm going to do with this? What I'm going to How am I going to help? What I'm going to do? Because many the things are focusing on

you're going to be more in you know, you know, you know, is pure egoism. You know, when one is when you're

thinking you're to think you to do you. Help to help. Exactly. And then to serve. And then you

serve. Because there's an egoist because the depressed. The depriments, the deprimed? The deprimed are

all the day, blah, blah. Blah, blah. And they're all the day, all the day listening to your ego. Let's get a minute,

five minutes, out of your and go to help him. Because you know, everyone suffer, Mark. All the

world has a whole world has a lot of a lot of people. And a sometimes you need to you know,

but sometimes you need to get to the front and get to the time the life that you're trying

to be the master because, oh yeah, you know, I'm what I'm what's

I'm I'm into mental and in stories of victim and suffer, I'm sure, I'm too

I'm too I'm used to sufferer, I'm too the trampoling that you send me to the other

other side. So the the pain so they're greats. And they're great masters.

If you you think God is good and all what you try it and all what you

does it has to there's there's there's there's so there that's

not it not my mom my mom no, no, no poor of me

my my mom me me I dole. That's sad. But not for poverty of me.

I have to experimented this dolor. Now, in what I'm going to transformer in a little more?

I, you know, what for me me passed to the life, the time of this is the

best of my life. The best of my life. I'm the question that I

do you, every that I feel this this suffering that my mind a

sometimes generates is what is or what is the lesson? That the universe,

that I the same, that my mom, that all, all the, all the, all the,

all the, all the, all the thing is, what is the lesson that is a very easy,

no, it's very very easy. Pone your priorities, on check, how's it says, you

think, you know, you're, where you're, where you're putting your attention and your time?

Second, a valor the people, because you can't be a nobody is, nobody is

all the other, third, living your life, like if every day you

you're how you decide, Decid your life. Because the people not decide.

It's in automatic and a rat like a rat down the world like in those carminergated. A bit

where I'm my energy. I said, I don't need to get a million of dollars. I have to

get this to have this life that me me satisfy, no I have because I'm because I'm

because I have to do something more more interesting than that for me. Okay? Because to

have 10,000 cars enormous huge, and 40, million of cars and that's,

and 10, million of the And I mean, that's that's a little me the secret of the life.

So this is to change your your priorities. And if you know do you do you do you know the change of the lesson,

then the election is intensified. You try more and more and more lection. Because the universe you're facilitating

the possibility to be saying hey, hey, hey, okay, listen me, you've seen, see what you

what you're and you well, so, no, no, no, no,

you don't know, now. Now, now. And it's, and it's, and it's, but I always

say, so I'm always a ticket to the area out of comfort. The ticket. Okay, I want,

where I'm, where I'm, but if not the way, you're going to get out of your area

of comfort. It's or you put a bed. Or me go, or me,

or you get to you, so, flohito and cooperating or the life to

and you're going because cooperating is less. Look, to me, the most fictoso. For me, the most dolorous

that I could have passed on this voyage and the most atemortiseant is to have my time. I'm sure you all the

life accompanied, all the life to get us. to get ridgap. where I was in the way to visit them and where I'm going to be able to

start solo. In the middle of the four days, at the four days I'm in the hospital. No, about the I don't know, I'm not

in the idiom I'm talking to the Greek, I don't know what I'm going to get to the hospital I'm going to I'm in a

hospital and I'm like you know I'm not I'm saying but I'm sorry but it's to learn it's to learn how

you go and I'm really good no matter no matter no me pass on the people yeah the I'm really

I'm really super accompanied I'm sorry I'm super so I'm sorry one never never is only one never

you know to connect us all the everybody Then they were into a cause and no me put in a lot of

a question I'm going to this. Here you know, I'm going to say, I'm going to say I'm going to

see, comey, you're going to see that you're going to get in 10 minutes you're going to you're going to go to

get to the hospital. No, me give the attention when I'm going to I'm going to

get to be in 10 minutes to the 10 minutes to winiering and me they're not because no but that

that experience that experience that you was an attitude of apprenticeship of

that's the way that the universe me had made that's the that's the question of the

I'm sure, I can't be, I'm going to be what I'm seeing what I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm yeah, I'm thinking,

ah, ha, ha, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna be sure, I'm gonna be sure, that's,

that's, that's a sort of, exactly, or for your mind, or your emotions,

but you're so, but I'm that's a question and the way, thank, Lelianna.

No, of all. For a good. Guse to be here and we're going to and we're going to and continue to keep talking

and creasing together. This was a lesson precious. Thank you. What good. That's great. To have been to the doctor,

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