El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 063: Las maravillas de la leche materna

Episode Date: July 30, 2017

Episode 63. The podcast of Marko Antonio Regil is a production of RGL Entertainment, and all his rights are reserved. Vineness at the podcast of Marko Antonio Regil. Amigos, I'm in the place perfect. I'd like to continue doing podcast here and the rest of my life. We're in Tulum, in the Hermoso Tulum, junto, along the sea,

if you can't listen the, the solas of the mar, or the music in the hotel, because we're literally front of the mar in a day precious, with two inviteos of super-luc. Apart of people that I'm in my heart of people who have been here in the podcast,

Claudita Lysaldi, creator of mom-natural, super-moma, grand amic, how you? Felice to be here just like you on the play, gozando of the

but, also, very emotional because today I talk a that I passionate profoundly, very gladysia to be able

to do it. The lactancy, because there's there's a there's a there's a mercadentia that's that's a

little of an animal is better than the leach of my mother? No! No, and Claudia, has been an activist in this And for that they can

That's a mom, then you know, Claudia is mom. So, you know, his experience property and the experience of many other moms and has been years dedicated to Correar the voice and has prepared and all. But for that no us say, that no us know we're going, that if we know we're not we're making,

we're not, we're making sure medical of the planet, to conquistador, the world, to the superman of the health, to Clark Kent of the hospitals. Here is Dr. Mauricio Gonzalez. Hello, Marco.

Hello, Claudia. How are you? It's an paradise. I hope that's this paradise. The ideas fluelly and we can't give information to first-money and the first world of the people that

listen to. You're so much. You're so much it's audio, obviously, but it's going to be able to see what I'm saying. He gave a penita,

the doctor. He gave a penita, the doctor. It's the maximum, ma'am. If is the Clark Kent of the health. The Clark King of the

Salute. But it's the Conquistator. Ah, sure, now, now, is the conquistator. Well,

to the gran, a me ammantar to be a unlawful and my mom, and my mom said,

and my mom said that the children, we're more more appellated to mom, we're more defenses,

but what I see, was that there was a campaign of the 50s or 60s.

Very very far in the 70s. 70s more, where the industry of the lacto

started the idea of that was the way or equal to Well, better

to do your children to your kids? For what you to do you doves? For what you

to be able to you're not a formula and it's better amamantar? It was more or so the

campaign? So, yeah, and still after many years, you you've got

with the many years I'm talking about about five years. You've found those medicals

that said but how he's doing the mom with a baby six months is a

baby, yeah it's water doctor's now the The topic with the doctors, with the history of medic,

is that in the classes of university, of medicine, and the doc, no me demer to mention, of gynecology, that they'd have to be experts, of pediatria, that they'd be, evidently those master, the mega-experts, no in the universities, no there was the class of lactancy. Today, in three universities, in Mexico, for the most, is optative.

The class of lactancy. It's that if you, as a medic who, medical, you want to talk about there's Horaceo

Ryees, that's the president A Prolam, which is the number one in terms of lactance in

Mexico, he's a program, he's where they can't find more information about

about this class of the unam. And if is a time very very because you

don't tryver to you know to say a thing when you don't

know that's that you know the people not even the

not even even even even they're they're not they're

optional then. As class is optional. It was what we talked about, no, Doctor, when in the Capitual of the Protein Vegetal, where you said, you, I mean, you're, that, tristently,

not you're done many classes of nutrition in the career of medicine. You studied in nutrition, apart, and, for your side, before you do that's not yet. Yes, it's correct.

What he says, Claudia, has a total, total sense. I remember very that in the years 60, 70, there was a campaign very strong when

industries of the the leech of aaca, Yeah. So, and hospitals of of countries of third

world to promote the formulas lacta, and this promulia that the women who had been

themmantable to do for their formulas, thinking that were in the quality, they were

they were inriquecised with vitamins, etc., etc. Now, the reality is that the

medical during much time, has been been away from the part

preventive of the medicine in all the where you know the

Claudia is in the nutrition and in things that natural as like the lactance mater. It's the first, first step important, the most important, of the creation of the health of the human, the health primigenea, the health primal,

is related to the type of part, for the support, is a part importantissima of, to, really, to take conscience because when a baby nace via vaginal, there's a whole

colonization that form the microbiota, that is the second cerebris. The microbiome human is the human is the that's the stable is hormonal

mentally, sanos, too a problem, the microbeimum human, and it starts from the type of part.

Then it's the point important which is the first time. As a lot of the person human no nace yet

the brain the brain to form after the seven years. The flora intestinal, which is

this filter contra the end of the virus and they're going to deteners with a plant

with a heart, that's 75% percent of the first when

when it's the first time to the stomach to the end up the first you know the

little the oil liquid. You vows the oil liquid. Because

really this first time that first time to enter to the baby, you you've

you've never and know that you know that you do you know that you can't

be a city, plan, desert, depending in where you're doing this

new system is a first a vaccine, a first injection for that baby that is formulated specifically for that baby. No, there's nothing, nothing that can enter to the stomach,

that's better for that baby than what you already for nine months for him, for what you were gestating in your organism for him. So, it's after this first time and then it begins to form a flora intestinal

of organisms vivos. That if we coulderamus to get a metaphor, it's like if you were little guerreroes to defend a child, that, they're, they're, they're,

now, are making, formations in all the tract digestive. Not just they're in the stomach and they

get there. Every time that your baby consume the leach materna, that's the first months

the demand is altissima and it's that my baby want to come every time. My love is that's the

that's not you know you'll get to do you don't want to those first months of the first time

because only take a leach matern't. It's just is a baby about the the child of my mind you

I'm not I've been I've got to go, I'm going to go to the way to my body of

my body and my d'n'tra and I'm going to be my cordon umbilical, so as I'm so it's a

carol, so it's only so it so it's so it's logical that my connection continue is being

to make sure to make sure so in the middle of my back to the back to the pecho of the mom

so that's that's the plan perfect of the naturalness for sure what it's

me makes a tantos is that in the 2017 we have there are reasons for those

the lactance maternal is superior to the lactance for other species of animals. It's really surprising. There I think

the logic should enter and and it's now the data, Claudia, are 100% certain.

Se have seen multiple studies in great centers academical that when the child nace

for the vaginal, the colonization of bacteria in their intestino, in all your tract

intestinal, is completely distinct, Mark. It's completely distinct. The colonization

of bacteria. A bit more. When we're, we can't explain a lot of more. Okay? 100 trillions. This is it

this is more bacteria in the intestino than the cellulas in all the body. Yeah.

And bacteria not means that's negative. No. No. They're a species. They're a

In the commercial, in those say you're saying that they're to eliminate the bacteria.

So, so the bacteria. And the antibiotics, those they're and you mutton your

probiotata, you your probiotata correct is defending, and for so that's vulnerable, and for that's when you're talking

because when you're to take antibiotics. If you're a baby with a reason, lactance of maternal. There are bacteria that are there's good in your

body, so it's going to start from there. When we say microbiota, we're about us all the bacteria that exist in the

body of the human. When we say microbioma, we're not we're not, much people use the concepts

interchambablyablyment. Now, no me want to give, what I want to say is the when the

partto is for via vaginal, the the new has been bacteria different when it's for the case is there. You're the

things that you have to have done to make a mother natural that's not as for the vaginal. Correct. So,

we're going to start well. The new is colonized by bacteria protectors, those that protectors,

those that protect them in the interior of the intestinor, the immunity of the proper

intestino. And if to this, you add a leggation matron, Marko. So,

for the The love of God, is designed for millions of years to be the part more nutritive in the life of the human. Now, you and I we know about this in the power of the protein vegetal. We're talking about the grams of protein that have the leach maternal are 5

grams. 5% of the content of the leach maternal is protein. And even as it makes a child in a year, three times her peso his size original and double a suture in the first year. Because it's what it needs. Because it's what it needs. And it's what he needs. And it's a...

Claudia, well, the calostro, that is the goldolid, that's the monogloulin, etc.

It's like, I don't want to use the word gasoline, because the gasoline is a, but it's your

combustible. But it's your combustible designed in form perfected through, at the time, to

your mom, to you. Fidate, the perfection. Between the many, the much things that

we can't make sure, but look it to get to get to make that make

that means, what can't do you baby that they've made and they're doing the

two years to the this is lactancy tandem and then it's a good, it's done to be

a lot of the other or the other or the other. The one one side the formula perfect for the

baby and the other side of the way. Scientifically compromised. Comprovrovado. Now,

it's a cold, the light is more liquid, it's free it's more less expensive. It's fantastic.

It's a place where there's a way, there of a lot of the leche materna has adapted

to to that baby that's that's taking a leach materna. In times,

yeah we're talking about this, in the times, for example, in Venezuela,

that there's about the food of food. Yeah, the life maternity. The leech

maternal. Yeah, because then, Doctor, that's not, a back, that's been a lot of the set up

a percentage of protein or the percentage of aotee to a foxeser or an animal of no-se-quant-quant-kills that I, is another other thing.

For sure. To start the quantity of hormones that have both leaches is totally different. The leach maternal, the leach human, let's name it, this way,

is designed to make to grow adults, men, a piece of 70, 75 kilos, and women is to 45-55-kil.

When you goges a leach of another species animal, the that most commonly is the eva that we're about,

that are animals that are to be to be 300, 250 kilos. Now, aggregating more to this argument that says,

we're now studies prospectives, which are the best studios scientifics that existen. Is that you start a person

and you and you're you're doing it and you're the best type of science that you can't do you

because it's presential, no there are variables. We know know we know that the children that

have been non-incidence of obesity. Point and final. Point and final. So imagine the change in

the health public that we could we do, if all the children, we're doing, let us,

we're prebe with lactance. Sure, so then you don't me I'm not I'm doing,

and I'm do you know like this. You know, you're doing a black. So, all the

grass that needs a vaca, no, I need a I need to know, and when

I need to the need, but if I need, but if I'm the, the grass, and the

protein and the hormones, of an animal enormous. How many? How many pounds? 300. Approximately.

So, what me extrana? That's my extrana? The cheese is the concentra. The cheese is natural. It's a process

of the leech of that where it's a great and you know that's addictive. And the cassina. The cassene is addictive.

But, et cetera, but for that it engorda so it's not, for so much obesity. state-unidens, like Mexico, and other countries, the lacto is

meted in all parts. In all. No, no, well, when you convertes in vegetarian, in vegetarian, it's a because, well, consume products animals. I was 21 years vegetarian.

My process, to begana, has been a simple in the theme of just chocolates, or a chocolate that's any kind of no I'm not, because no is vegan, because it's that

the leech is that the real, metida in all. I'd like, I'm going to what you said of the age, and of what you

did the leach when we need when we need, and when no. Because, okay, convinced we are we don't know. And then the mom

and say, well, I'm going to do you'll have to do this. No, they're going to do you. They're not. It's that,

that's a day is a lotcura. Yeah, it's a thing. I just want to think to think in this. About all the

benefits, and now we'll be more benefits in the measure of the leach materna. But, about this,

it's the normal, the natural, and the necessary that you go to a year and a year and a year, and that's a year,

and that's a peach of the that should be brinkarned because that is the age in the that we need that's the

question is what is the good, the leach is the mother that that's the or the they're in

powder to make a a baby that is the that contains what really needs to your baby.

And there is where we can't to make a conscience of the lactance prolonged

because there's there I said I said I'm a doctor Marko,

for example in Brazil there has demonstrated even we've to the science, we'll

go to the studio, we'll really to do it with lapis and paper in Brazil where if it's

it's been that the people who received a longed that's like the longed

are more to doce months of the lacktance than the money than those who are amamantated

what is the thing here what is the analysis yeah more profound there there's

a major development cognitive with the children that because things like

this a baby that receive leach of a bottle move four

muscles facial. That's a problem to be a synapsis neuronal. A baby that

is a man who makes about a man who move 38 muscles faciales. There's a thing of

synapsis that's in the way. The synapses that word. The synapses neuronals are the connections

that we're doing that our neurons endiannors. Dignances. Connections. Connections. Connections.

Uh-huh. At the three years is the velocity more than the two and the three

years, the velocity major that will the the rest of those our velocity

all the time. But the velocity more you're going to learn you're to learn,

if we're to grow to the year and the three years, we're gigante's bigante,

but not only only is physical the thing, the the cerebral. The brain is

in that moment of the development of absolute. So, when a baby is

amamentated with all the stimulation that this means, not that is that

more intelligent than the other is that can't the intelligence

that we should have to have to be in a general. But not because you have you have to know you have to

the foquitos to pick at the three years, no? I always I'm really this movie to be the

tableau and I'm to know that you know that you know, that you pickes in that age, between the two

and the three years, you know, you're at the three years, but we're about the two and 24

months, all what you pickes there is going to get to get to and the and what you

do so, for us so we're we're just we're just that's is that you're saying, Claude, doctor, is that we can't our maximum potential as

humans when we're taking the gasoline or the combustible that's designed for us. Yes, well, the potential cerebral envulve other factors, no? The development of abilities diverses, et cetera. But what did Claudia is completely

certain in the sense of that it's a relation, Mark. So, so it's a relation between what the that the child makes it that's from a certain

age, and you can promote the cresiment adequate to cerebral. Now, that if that

is a little bit of that's because there's other variables. Now, of that you are you're

doing the building blocks, the blocks, the blocks, the blocks of the construction necessary to be

that's, that's that's true. And now, what is the be what's the that's

that's that's that's that's that's that that's that doesn't

absolutely nothing. I mean, I'm I'm talking about this with my spouse because a sometimes we're to get us

and say, oh, is that this is too to ammantar to the manned to beavers and it's difficult,

irviened those, check the temperature that really is molest, no? Now, and Claudia still have

talked, that this we've talked much, that's still not not to talk the part

of the vincule emotional that's and that and that we're we're

we're behind right, the the universe of the universe of benefits that that's

that's the lacktance maternal is infinite. We're a pause and when we're going to talk about the

benefits. The benefit emotional can be a good thing for the second thing. And also, in some moment,

if we, we know the time, the relation of the consumption of the leech of other animals with the obesity

because we're talking about what we're what we're what is what is what is the does what? And what

what is what when you do you guys to give to the life that the life that you do you

do you do? So, we'll come back on a pause. I'm Mark Antonio Regil, and we're from from the Hermoso Tulum, Quintana Ro,

at the oria at the restaurant in the hotel Manzala, with Claudia Elisaldi. Activista, because no, I can't use

another name, Activists. The activist. Who does it activism for the lactancy, we know the activist. The activist.

Activista, or the activist, well, activist for the lactancy or the activist, the doctor, Mauricio Gonzalez,

is the superman of the Salud. That's here to say, if we're some MENTira.

Well, I know, because I know I say nothing. Oh, but I have a little bit. But you know amomantated? I'm a man.

My mom me said, my momat my mom and my talk about the doctor in the block that the kids who are more more

a more than a more. We have a connection with mom and we and it's a empathy with the world.

Because this vincal of the mom you do empathy with the world and then then you

then you're going to be vegan, see certain those documentals and you talk the heart,

and it doesn't empathy for the We are we are we're still in the world Furtimente. You see,

you see, what's the lack of empathy? No, he's like disconnected. Clearly, evidently,

was a little, you know, the child, the little the little Roto, what is what,

and I, he was the little comment, that's, quite, infancy is destiny.

What's saying, Tony Robbins of Trump? Well, it's that all of all us

motivin things different, no? And the mother, Terese of Calcutta, he motivable

the suffering the people and she wanted to allow you know, and he

was the he was the number two and probably probably because the story that he never he never

he never never was ever he's never he's he's not because this this moment historical where

is with the presidents of the countries of the and he's he's he's still and he's

like a little little a little little he goes and he'll move it, he goes to he goes to

the president of France and he begins to say to the other, and this is enoja, I see the insecurity,

of that no me is to start demonstrating and being that I'm the number one. It's a insecurity of a lot very great for the endro. And it has been with the infancy,

it has been to be the first time. And, you know, that is Trump. It's in these schools, fintos, 40s, well, it's more

more than all respect, I'm sorry, I hope the he's not able to speak, because if no, Marcoe and I'm going to come to rest of

the U. Oh, imagine to start to to start to talk to talk about and we're going to be

fantastic. It's a long as far as the lunas with an abandoning and you can't do you

can't do the and I'm and I'm feeling compassion for a man who is you're you're going

you're you're just you're you're you're not and you're pass, you know

I'm not I'm don't want to keep that history we're we're we're

because this world you not because the world no no so moving to

there there's there's there you said, before, to go to the

pause? What is, that you can't talk about? Claudia, I'm sure that has been

a perspective in this aspect. What we're doing we in medicine, is that in the years,

I think, 30s, 40s, we're talking before the war world, we're

we're going when those dispegables to the mother at the hour of amamantar

these, even even if even even to the person with a with a

amount that were in nutrients, these they'd have to grow.

Wow. And yorrableably and his and his time were a minute. In the

moment that these animals, that these were still to talk for your mother,

these were they're again to grow. So I think, Mark, without to try to

be reductionist that is one of the greats problems of the science actual, the reductionism.

What is the reductionism? The reductionism is centrarned in a variable of a formula

enormous. No, for example, say that the obesity is only for this, this, this, when there's multiple

variables that have a role in a important. The lactance maternal is, is a vincalological,

biological, biological, and emotional. The only actual thing to your child, your color, that be a risa,

that's your feelings, I think it's a good to you can't definitely not we can't not the

people. The hours and hours that we're that one, that one, that one, that one,

that a man, that a Kita your baby at not darly and put her a mammil with

a formula. It's very very important. Because one part important about the assertion of the lactance

when the mom is reincerted the job. For that the system has to change and the kids have

to go to the world. Just the we talked about when we're talking about Trump and I'm

talking to talk to the time to get to the children. There was a education where they

did you have a year and this this this new so much, so much. So,

so much so, for that the pulmones they're going to be. The kids need need are an abrass. You know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, and you say, this theory of that the first night, no.

No. You know. No. No. You're romp the heart. Sure. You're feeling

abandoned. For sure. It's like, no, there's not, no, there's not, there's,

the other of the door of the door. And the doing the question of all this.

And where a culture of a country, where you have to live and you have to

because you have to reinsertate in the job, rapid, because you have to be in good another way, it's rapid. No, being a mother, it's a whole a change of life for ever. For ever. I've ever I heard a, our deareroye Peter Ferris DeKon,

saying justly that, he's like the first night. The child, if you're all right and you know, you're going to you know, you've got the battle, but with the world, because your

son, is not empathic, and he will be to think that's only about and that's going to make with a syndrome of abandonment for all their life and if it's very grave,

then it's become in Trump. But if not it's what you say you, there's what you're there's a lot of no,

zero empathy. So the part emotional that said Mauricio, of the lactance is very important to go to get to

back on the one and other and other in these first years of life and in the best of the most

I know that's very difficult. I did three years to my son of my my I'm two years

three months and we're probably probably even when you're when you when you're to get to

and when he's Well, ven, my princesses. The major part of the people would say that is an exaggeration. Sure.

Right. After that you know, because it's so little, why's so intelligent? Why, it's so no, no, it's a good.

No, no is that that's not really that's all right me said the chambaccio. No. It's multifactorial, as I'maul. No, it's

only the lactance but a factor in the first years of the time in the social, intellectual, and physical, is the

lack of, this one It's a Claudio, Marisol, me, it's a little

when you know of the climate that's the thing, that's the term,

correct, because we know that the climate also include enfriamient, so,

not only only the only the people, and that you know, I don't think that I'm

doing that I'm doing, who I'm going to get a risk, if they're good,

if they're well, but if they're bad, we're we're not, we're not the

change, the change, we're to clean the planet. If we're we're doing, we'll

we're going, we're doing we're just a moment, we're a risk is minimal. It's the same.

If Claudia, someone is saying, Claudia, is an exaggerate and it's a bad, then you're

going to get to get to the mass to, no, it's not there's a more to get to more.

No, there's a repercussion negative. In can't, if you don't get to amamantar,

if you're going to do you're a question to a quantity of a quantity of things,

The last night. I mean, I'mmauntating your child never never is a sure that I'm to make sure to say that my

my kids never never said. But it's the reality. But it's a guarantee. But it's not I mean, I mean, I mean, you know,

second step, because there are many factors that, that implicate this health, for example, and what I

want to say, because then I'm going to say, I say, I'm that you're never you're very sano.

My secretos with them always are the I would say, Swearter, for sure, my love.

For sure, because you never you're a factor. That's a factor mental, the form in the form in the way of the same.

The voice of mom manda. And not we're to talk about it. Pondt a sweater that you're going to get a but you know,

it's a, it's called it, you're going to get a unfermour. No, you're going to get up as you

to come back. I mean, me said, no sues, no suds because you're going to imagine. Let's go

interrompire. One of my memes favorite of mom natural, too. It's when the reasons for

the child the little the little bit of a sweater to the school. The 10% is because the little bit of the

90% is because the mom has free. That's true. That's my really. And the kids never

have free. And the the children don't get in health. For that Regilly

and we am we, to Marius because Mauriceio is those doctors that are the

doctor, that should be It should be able to see how patients have enchoshed with medicine. It would be how many people are the same

we're going to our doctor a menstruation while we're saying sanos and to pay him when we're so when we're so in China.

So in some other countries. So what are you going to say something? No, it's to start the cycle of

the cycle academic or residencies medics in my hospital in New York and we took the pleasure

to receive a new intern a child a child family in Rein Unito And I had And I talked about

They're paying A bono annual Revising the cases And if they have Colesterole more They're paying If they're They're able to

Do you know To make By your Bounder All that's a All that's a That's That's the

That's the style And I was I'm saying Marisio Marcio This chick Sheka Originaria of

Iraq But yeah I'm I said I know I see I'm a I'm

The name of his Sposos, the name of his children, I know where he where he

where he know, I'm absolutely all the factors. All the factors to do it. Absolutely. It's that

is that connected. But now, we're going to the advantages. I want to make a cutation

rapid to go to get a impact on the time of the people who are the

people who don't know and they have this problem with the problem. It's

very difficult lactate and but if is possible. And you have to start

thinking it because Because, because, of the things then are your actions,

et cetera, that's going to that's going to that's a going to be a lot of that's not a lot of

it's a way, but also there's not that we're in Mexico, even the not that you

don't know to make our lactance to investigate. In mom natural, there's much information

to respect because is complex and you need a need to a rep of a parent

a child a suitor, a suitor, if there's a suitor, a lactancy and how you're conscientess to share this

information? Because if you do you do you know you're going to you're going to you're going to never ever

never ever get to you're doing your leg's not you know it's a little bit of the a cube a urs and a

and so paulatina it's going to grow the time of the stomach and here's the doctor not

to me to be to to a baby of four months is a you're no see it's a

yeah it to clean me it's and it's like this calorie because it's actually actually

more rapid, because he he diggered more rapidly, but that's what he needs, energy rapid, and then he needs to eat, energy rapid, because is in this process of growing, growing, and growing. And for that, and so, and so, also, too,

his metabolism will be the correct when it's a great, and will have less incidence of obesity, et cetera, et cetera. Sure. Imagineate, if we're to buy a perforter, the food, adequate, for a

catchorro, and the adult, for an adult, and the perro gourd, for a perro gourd, or a perro big, or a girl I agree. So imagine that your son's

doing the formula of another species completely different than that's a thing that's

not a not really. And the leech not not is water. No, it's a word.

It's a myth. And there's a doctor that says water. For favor,

be and that you get the cellular to you know the doctor, the

leach does it water? No, it's no, but the musklo

so can't become in grass but so it so so it's the

the no. No, well, what, what is what is the What is the The famous The Leche is a new

in water is a form is an analogy that has used a lot of many people supposedly to make more

the entendiment that the nutrients are that are that is that can be but they're that can be

but obviously it's a manner super simplista to explain this is totally

erroneo now. Now, well, Ficate Barco right that was

I was talking to talk about. I was trying to record my first cladies of pediatria in second year of

medicine. And I remember very well the book of pediatria in Nelson, that was the most famous that

in the universities of medicine we study us. I remember that the organization world recommend about the lactance

materna minimum six months, maximum two years. And, the fact, the recommendation

of the organization of the health, exclusive to six months, the fact the

only six months, and the form yeah combined with food with a 24

months. Yes. 24 24 months, papilla and the be chesh with a blacktace.

Exactly. The end is the ablactation that could be a liberate to mind. The what the baby starts

to come. A things blandas. A black tation. Okay. And it can be a libera

demand that are things that are getting to a boc like a broccoli well a bitabel

a bitabel well. What is the thing? The muscles the muscles facials and begins

to be more rapidly. Yeah. Because you see, you know they're not talking. They're 24

months, 136 months and they're with problems to be able to get to be not stimulated because they're

much a papilla. So, oh, with this too. But, well, going to the lacktance, I was so.

The first six months is absolute nutrition. Nutrition, nutrition, nutrition, nutrition. Situente's six

months, until the two, it has to be with a little bit of because also this is going to

do something is being important the lactance, but you do part with the food,

more things and it has a thing cognitive, of the development of because

they're in these synapsis connections neuronal down to the 12 months to

the 24 I think for me is the thing more important, that is the emotional.

It's the thing that you know, that you can't make that you're going to start,

you're going, and you start, there there's there's to be there's because you're

there's a mind of the but here you're you're you're just yore and you pegs to the pegas my part-terer me said when I was up when I'm, my first

son, Claudia, the pecho is pass. And I don't know it until my my son took more than a year. And it's paced. The peasant. Fittierme, and I'm pretty, and I'm going to get to get to yell. And so now my spouser, like, y'allie, and me la patser and me la patsy, because he's a psalm, because he's

protection. Yes, the pectoral is peace. So, really the theme emotional, and here I want to involucral a theme chemical, that we dock, but it's my

part favorite of the lactance as my part of a little bit of a felicity to be a hearticicid and there's a

acerotonina that's a triptophano or triptophano or triptophano right? Triptophano I think.

Triptophano yeah. This aminoacid precursor of the acerotonina has a major presence in the leachematerna

which chemically that's like what magic is the lactancy that chemically is designed for your your son's

that's you know, and see the little bit of the pecha, see a bit of a bit about and it's like

it's like they're like they're to get up to know, they're to go to the sky, they're in this carita,

still the got a gotita scurriedoliened you know, it's so it's so this peace that this

protection, so no, it's an extra- so, just no, no, no more more

more than a bit more that's a little bit of a pause, but before the Pausa,

and, Maricio, the podcast not to try to us to make to get to the next to the same.

There's the point of the point of the point of the question of the leech of a other animal, of a vac,

what he will pass to the when he was doing the when he's doing a little bit there.

There's a doctor Thomas Samaras, that has a laboratory in San Diego that's am atropia and I'm a

lot of many studies, for many years, is an epidemiologist of class world, has been demonstrating that the animals in general, of origin animal,

promote the cresminton, so we know about the 70 years. The problem is that, at the problem is that, they're doing an crescent

accelerated. So, when you're a cresiming a celerate, Mark, you, is the mortality

premature. The increase accelerated, is mortality premature, because, we have

talked about in the diversions medics, Baby Power, after the 22 years the only

that's the only that's or the panza or a tumor. Because after that our needs of

their needs of their needs of their needs to make sure. So the animals are precursorsors of the

cresmence of because they're full of hormones because their because those proteins

because not for you. Because not you're not you're a specie not you many many people not tend

and we know it's people we're humans come animal and evolution, totally correct. Totally correct.

Those come us, but those in the majority of the occasions as a method of supervivience. In emergencies. In emergencies.

For that we're, the being obnibro is not a demer. It's a possibility. You can be omnibro in moments of urgency,

as well, because much people say that in the media social. It's that there are communities that could

survive and survive and it's probably. It's probably. And not We're not saying to the community

But the But the But the No, it's For the But the other thing is a other

form, no, not they're not going to be in Boathe or the city of Mexico, in Los Angeles, in Miami.

For favor, no, we're not, we're doing in supervience. If we're we're doing or doing a

podcast, so it's that. Every every time has a reason to be,

no? The fact that I'm going to do the Tulum Vigant is about how the diet was based on plants is maybe the penicillina in the new

single. Every time has its needs. Marco, it's good. You have to know, Marko and Claudia,

have to know that the medicine modern not will let me get to die young. We're going to make them possible for maintain them with we know,

we're doinglysis, we're curgias to a heart abiot, we're many of proceedings to prolonging the chronological of the human.

But not the quality of the life is other thing. So, when you consume a diet

that is free in your totality or in your majority of of the animals, you're going to make it for more time the quality of life.

And that's what you want? For what you live many years? That's what that's what was what

was my mom? What I did my mom was to see that from the 70 years to the 84, 85 that

he was, he was a horrible quality of life. With obesity, with problems of

osteoporosis, with problems mental. And now that I I was I was in the training that I recommend, I recommend,

the inertia medical of Dr. Maricio Gonzalez, Vegi Power, and where you about how was also, that's being the

bloods, so, that the arteries are still that's all the caraces, and not only is the circulation that's the

heart, but that's it can get to provoke a dementia or an Alzheimer's, and I remember,

and I was you were, while you said, and I remember that my mom, no, I was,

not a lot, no, I was, not consumed nothing, all that all all right all right

was frit was cooked it was it was it was it was a new a generation

where not they were water and I'm but I'm with the water because now

it's the thing to get you because the water because the water

we're not they're not they're they're they're in Mexico

it in Mexico it's a whatever or the coffee or the

whatever was a whatever was a but it's it's it's

like Oh, a trygitto, like a recompens, no, that was the water. So, so, my mom,

no, no, my mom, no, my mom, so I'm really really to the 70, no?

Yeah, the other 15 years that were a lot of a lot of enormous. Supervivence. And no

I want to that me and I want to that's going to get to that's so much

my time. Thank you. That's, that is the central motive of this, no, but,

but, regressando, the thing is that, that will live, for the least 75, 80 years. So, it's like, I'm a kid

you know, you know, you know, Claudia not talked about the way, his ideas for I am, no?

Yes, is that you're to start to plan your your life. Yes, and, and, not you know,

you can't say, that I'm going to know, these, these, studios epidemiological for example,

the doctor Samaras has demonstrated when the growth in the human is major.

Yes. The probabilities of the Mert prematura are major. He has demonstrated, he has mentioned

in those studies epidemiological how when, for example, you know, those chaperitas vivable more? Yes.

Yes. Correct. It's totally a fact scientific. The person of a minor time,

live more. The theory is because we have less cells. So, as we have less

cells, less tissues, it's probable that, as the the tissues that are

less probable that there's a defect in the problem with the I don't want to compare us

with other species, but, well, the perrits is the same. The racas little are the 20 years,

labraders, pastors like Lucy, 8, 12, 14, 14. In fact, if I'm,

I remember, in the studios of Samaras, also that's in perros, in humans, in other

species, animals, and even in the time no us come vien. And the and the

leach you make to be to be a problem of the what you is very

very it's is very it's You put it like a vac. Yes, car. We have to change the obesity. No, no, I'll clear, I.

I'm clear, I'm not. I'm not referring to those obeseos that we're normally in America, Latin. No, morbid. I'm, I refer to the people that a lot of times not

cabbing in the avioners. No, no. I'm doing my heart. And I have an enormous compassion with them. But those you're seeing with the double cheeseburger, no?

With the carne moly, the tocino, three queso, and all the refresh. No, it's normal. It's a, one, a thing is a gordito ponson-cito,

Cerellas, like my friends in Sonora that are like like a lot of little gaito, like perros, milperos.

And the pancita of the pancita of the che of the beer, but you see this obesity where no can't even

and go back to the side to do you that's a form human. And the sufferingmient, you imagine

what you do you do you know with all compassion but if you do the body

we have we have much more more conscience in what we come we're we have to

to have conscience as women. That if if we're going to our life

will change. And mom and papa, because here there's unfortunately the time of the time of

the father. A guy that's a paul is, and the thing, I'm saying simple with the

change of a panial, is the best thing that can be a person because

you know to my marid, that's a person, this relation that has been to

his family, that has generated you, that he's this love that they have my kids when when

when more my little my master to name at the three years he said papamam mom ma had the equilibrium

perfect in general the children say mom mom and for my kids always have been my mom

is the same mom so there there's a lacktance patern't the papa can participate

in a lactance if the mom so the mom and the paper in the night in the

the night because is very can't be my mom and if the papa

no then you you're this It's the sex, it's, it's a lot. And, of the really, as you have to do,

you know, because you're in this period so can't to the first months, the first 24 months, in where at the four months, of your

first baby, in general, at the second, you know, your life is that's about? Yeah. And it can't come a depression

just postparto, because, because no, you know, you know, the information correct. Not only,

a through the tryptophan, generate oxytocin, the baby, when you're them amamand, when you're amamantantando,

too you know, you're going to oxytocina, because there's stimulation. And that stimulation genera

peace in this mom and patience. The baby yore, naturally, you know, you know,

you know, a lot of a lot of a lot of a man who's doing a piece, and there's sacred.

It's sacred. There's there. There's a power, there's, there's, there.

Because just they're in these hormones, making the time to do you do this

these months these months, it's has to have a recopence. It's the

Retroalimentation of Mother Naturalese, of Pachamama that says, this is good. We're going to make the last

pause and when we're going to talk about the point of from the point of a mother natural and from the point of view of

a medical, because this is, I'm it's like when you're going to began. The most difficult is

to learn to eat a the food, and educate you to educate. The more difficult is lidier with

the world, lidier with the people, with the family, with the family, with the work, and with the

people. And, and to continue. And, So how how manage us with the society,

with our family, when they're saying we're saying we're doing that we're going to more information and more

education and what do you do? When the medical, even the medical not is informed and you start

to give us to what is mom, naturalness. So, we'll be after the pause.

I'm Mark Antonio Rejik. We continue on the podcast from the precious Tulun, Kintana Ro,

at the beach of the mar in a restaurantc with the Dr. Mauricio Gonzalez

and with Claudia Elisdi Kriod Mar natural and we're few minutes

but the time for our people to find us when we're the kids who are the

people are people are or are to be mame's or are probably going to be mamas in the

next years so how how do you doctor if I'm going to be to say I'm not

I'm saying because I'm not so okay today today we're every every

there's more than the lactance materly thank you thank you thank you thank you

thank you thank you If you're the felicity and the opportunity to have one

that promote this it's good no. If not it's now,

Marco, today the education is everywhere. We have internet, we have places like a man

natural, we have access to other experts in platforms online. You can get,

they can investigate, can get those sites, and find good other thing

we need to do we need to do you do you very well, Claudia, as a man, you have to support. For example, in my hospital,

I have friends that are amamanting and always, hey, Mauricio, me can, for favor, me can't, I can't be 25 minutes with the patients

for the people? So, the men have to cooperate. We have to be co-operators. Corresponsable. Corresponsal. Because, you know,

this is a world new, where this is a family, to be your family, my family, and my family, and is a family

of all. The planet is our house. And we have to support. To be every every mom,

to your mom. And to every and a child, and to your little, in the other other people, in the other

cabinas of lactancy, lactations. Lactarios. I don't know, I know the concept of and I'm taught you,

lactarios. So, but if the doctor me is saying, the doctor is educated, the doctor is educated, and me

says that no, that he de formula, what is, like, as a medical, what is the doctor?

Well, also, a person to say, the the person, no? For example,

I get a a The senior, and he said to the pediatra, or he said the gynecala, you know, you know, my peso, my peso, my peso me my peso, me dole, this is so. A-becer, well, no, it's, it's known that

we're not, we're making this sense paternalist, that you know, my love, he's not necessary, that's costing so, that's cost to, that's, for what? For what?

So, to, it's, it's good reconsidering, now the medical, has the responsibility to know the science actual, the science actual, us,

we must that the prolongation with the lactation of the bloodation of the body, it's a

called disbiose, which is an dis-equilibrillery between the bacteria good and the malas. It's a

case. There are certain studies that show that's certain types of cancer. So,

so it's the thing, you know, I'm what I'm what I'm to do you do this

moment more placentero? With who you want to want to want to talk

to be you know, you're is quit a benefit to your That's a good

good for the medical. Exactly. So, so it's, I'm what I'm

to do you I'm doing, I'm doing but I'm doing it because I'm so I'm doing it.

If I were a mom, or I was a day that I'm to be a number one,

to make responsibility of my education. Not think that what I think the

doctor me know to see I'm a single, I'm I'm to verify

the information in sites in a natural, for example, in

YouTube, Number two, not not to do it. Oh, I imagine that it's it's a but I'm sure

I'm sure but I'm I've got lactances very much to get back to me really I'm really I'm not

I'm both Ambas Amb it was easy it's beautiful beautiful beautiful I'm

I'm so I'm so I'm little bit of my pecha but so I'm having

have suffered much have been sprenimento of penning spentiment of blood and they've had to

have to have to have to every person and to pass her, to over them, can't superar,

it's hard. Logar a natural, a lottance sana, are the loggers of the woman, to be a wonder woman.

De Verda, a super-mugher. And are, and my husband said, after my first part, and well,

yeah, after she said, I'm, I'm quite impacted, in what he got in shock after the

part of the part of you I was a manco, you're going to you'll, you're going to do you,

you're doing, you're connected to God, I never sent you to God so much the God's the point of divine, the intelligence divina, how they

want to be and they're going to do more than the time of my partos. You know, you're just a child. And as much

you're more cedes, it's more the part of the part of natural, but with many conditions outside, and some day

we'll be parted, it's very difficult. The hospital complique the parto natural because there many factors

external, the light, the light, intense, blank, that they're being You know, you're just parading, you'll

say, a leona. And you have to go to an little bit of a little bit of a little bit of the doctor not to

say, the poor postura to paris that like the sturtugutas like in Toulouk that's, and if see in a light, it's

regress. It's a moment's sacred. It's a moment's agraro and it is a moment that's a good that

exist for the part of the part of natural. I'd like it's a time a good I want to hear about about Octavio Paz, we've already many years, that's written of the lactancy,

and that for me is of the things that, I don't see, me, me regress, I'm going to be able to have to have the pecho with my wife, maybe is a few months more, maybe when I regressive to Mexico, but for me, is that great regal of your kids after the life. There are many things that really you can't do you have really to give them to your kids. And the lactance is one of those regals.

So, let's hear this, that me me talk the alma. It says, Commensar to grow is a process Doloroso Our life is a

a new a reprimediment and culminate in a deserrague in the world prenatal, and deseo and satisfaction are

and so on the Leche Maternal. In her, the pleasure and the necessity are conjugated. The lactance attenua, the distinction between subject and object. The unity is restablexe, and for one instant, the one is the other.

In an image doblement admirable, for its exactitude visual and for his penetration spiritual, Holderlin, says that the the child pende of the his mother, as the fruit of the ram. Asy is, the

little, will be to do the new part of the the body of the caracted. The substance that the heart is the leg, the sabia

maternal. Octavio Paz Sir Juan and Ina Ines the Cruz in the tramps of the

1989. Aplauso That's a great that's this is a great, it's a great that

permit you to give to concience with information empodeling to you never to say,

no doctor and the suhra or the mother's any nobody. Ah,

for you suffres my jita. No, no. It's that no, is that

suffer it, abandonate the or not is for ever, if you think in a

30, 90 years, or for the 75 years, what are the two years? Exactly. What are?

What are? What are? It's not immediate. We're all all so much. We're going to do a lotation.

I'm going to go to get a little. Dapeach, because you're going to get to get more more rapidly.

So, so in this I can't I'm going to get to the question, but the women are

they're, and when they're ammantanting so they're so they're more feminine. It's more. I mean, I mean,

I'm like. I'm like. But the men are we goperer much, no? We have to cooperate much, no? We have to cooperate. We have,

we need to do we have to do. We have to understand that the women not, for example, in the

hospital, the, the women are, they're, they're, but when they're they're,

they're able to do, man, they're having to amantar. And we, And we're

those Homs we're going to protect them. Protected. Protected them. Protected. Let's be

machos inconsientes that are in the peach for them and they're looking to be there with more

or offended because they're there's a process sacred. We're not we're not the process

sacred of mother that makes that make so much. That's that not not be a

image that bring a image a good like a woman that's on the

On the, on the, and if you'll get to see the little bit to see her, you guineas the eye and you're gonna'clock. Because it's serving to your nation, because it's a new son who not will be a co-cobrard of those impuests for their health. And if you're a chief of a woman

that's lactando, darly the space sacred to do it. We have to work. We need to ask us to be the women, and we're notherous. And if you're

this woman that has to work in the lactance, you, you're going to have a great for the rest of the time. Super lear. UF.

Super lears. Commentario to To be a cerra, something more that you want to add the lactancy, the importance of the heart pecho versus dar to give to the child? No, well, I think

we're the points most important for that the people remember. I think if something is that Clau is an expert. How you have learned? I've learned it, Claude, impressionately,

this day. So, I think is what most I can't do I'm doing. And, and, the bris in my car, me is doing like,

like, yeah. And is, is that we're talking also of a time that that carice the soul

that's this caris this caris of the son a caris for our children

and we think we think we and I'm like to that's so, the children

that are they're they're people, we're we're we're going to create

a society much more empathic and we need we need we need we need

and I know I'm a man that's a mamantado and I'm

I'm I'm I'm that momented for long time that connection that's in my mom

all the life and that I'm trying that I'm sure that had you have had been with her

with her and I'mamantated and I thank you that I'm that I'm a mom a work

a three nine in 1969 in a Mexico in a Mexico that no be a very of the

women solteras and less divorcied two and with three and trying

and he did a great of I appreciate. Bravo. A guerrera. An Amazon. A masone.

Thank you. Maricio. Thank you. You're a papa. For you're a man. Yes. Totally a favor. Not only a favor,

but not only a favor, but this yeah, it's a reality. Yeah. Normal. That's normal. How it is?

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I. I'm. I'm. Thank you.

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