El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 073: ¿Rawvana era o no era vegana? El punto de vista de un activista por los animales

Episode Date: October 15, 2017

Después de las declaraciones de mi querida amiga Yovana Mendoza (Rawana) con relación a los motivos por los que incluye alimentos de origen animal a su dieta, a muchos veganos les interesa escuchar el punto de vista de quienes defienden los derechos de los animales.   Existe una confusión en cuanto al concepto del veganismo, vegetarianismo y animalismo.  Por ello, mi amigo y tocayo Antonio Franyuti, director de Animal Heroes viene al podcast a explicarnos la diferencia entre estos conceptos y a darnos su punto de vista sobre el tema de Rawvana, ¿Era o no era vegana?

Episode 73. The podcast of Marko Antonio Regil is a production of RGL Entertainment and all his rights are reserved. Amigos, I'm Mark Antonio Regil and the I salute from the city of Miami to continue commenting about the topic of Robana, the case of Robana, that in the last days has generated much polemica,

many conversations. Yeah, we've got with Dr. Mauricio Gonzalez, that we gave his point of view 100% medical and scientific to respect. Also, we've got to Carla Zappaena, that we gave his point of view as a nutritionist professional

about the conditions specific as a robana mentioned and the theme of a diet based on plantas and the other visors interview, also you invite to

to see it. I think that from the point of view of medical and the nutrition it was more that's clear that no

connection between the conditions that he's been and the diet based in plants. But you

have been we've been that have been that we're being that from the point of vista, from the point of

of the activism vegan, from the point of of view of someone who defiant the people who you know the

first reason and the reason initial for the I adopted a style of a diet based in plants, but also a

style of a style of the city of Mexico, to the president of animal heroes, my dear animal heroes,

my good Antonio Antonio, Antonio, thank you, Marko, very well, much many,

much times for, for, for to talk to this topic this time so important

and the Robana, no, that is a very to be a very much to be a

surprise for all of to start to get to get to be there. So, thanks for

invite me. Thank you. I think a all that all we took a very, to us

have taken, for me with the heart divideded for the carino the love

that I have to I'm that I'm a other other I'm

a more to the animals to the planet to the of her,

coming peskado, because I think we're all in the people can do you know that's a

thing that that's not the point. But when you see his video, where he he's a

direct or indirect, kind of doing or not careying, does a connection between

his and the veganism or the diet based in plantas and generate

all these reactions of eno of confusion of

frustration, what is your point of what is your point of with you and with your entorn

in all the organization, in Animal Heroes and all the people that's a boy of this organization. Well, there's two things. The first is that there's that

there's not, because she's getting engaged, because I didn't me it was done and I was doing, and I was going, I was about my

health, also in what you said, and well, they're inojaro, and Carl, have done to you. I'm sorry veganism.

The veganism that has to be with the animals, that's the veganism, and I think the culp is of the power.

The culpana. The culean no is of Robana. Robana no was vegana. Robana had a alimentation based on plants but we've

confused these words, the veganism that is not consume products of origin animal, to make them

to make them to do this and the people have confused with the diet, but the diet is other

thing. Robana had a diet based in plants for her health and he's

he's not to come for her food. So, so it's the problem is that

the word veganism but no the word of it is that it's that is that we have

been clear. And the veganism is animals. Having done this that difference

Robana no it was made done it's not the activists. Well, we should be not we're

offended as far our family. When someone eat meat in our family and no I don't let to talk to

talk to my my son and he's a right to get to do you know no no

I don't know to understand Robana also because it's because it's for his situation is

that makes think for the people that not know that the veganism infirm and that

is the complicated, because the veganism was a very much. I've got a year old, 19 years, I don't know what I'm saying vegan, so for the animals. That's something super important.

Solo for the animals and no me importable. Well, in reality my first reason was the but not my the one of the

animals. So, no, I'm not even I could eat eat to come what were. I've

talked to you've been your perrito how's called? Pocholo, Pocholo, and you're there's,

I think what you're saying is very important because we have to learn and understand of this case, because not will be not be the first, nor the last time that this is suede. That someone who adopts a diet based on plants, of a sudden,

it's a deca. Like, someone who is carnivore, also, but that's not, so interesting. That's not, that's all the news.

It's all the time. And that's the diet carnivora for, for unerserer for unites a diet more saner, but that's not in the news, not so,

this, this, this person, he was to be a person, No, it doesn't, but that no, I don't know, or so, or so, they're in,

so, they're infirm, all the time, like anyire. Because, well, we're, but so no, it's not in the media, that's not, that's not fair me, a person, so,

if I'm a run- a-up-and-a- re-en-a-en-a- , no? I reprove, I reproved for being a vegan, so what happens,

when I was a vegan, no? Cabe to say, we have to beas-n't more in science, because I, like, I'm, because I,

if I'm, if I'm going to do with this, to lastime to the animals to make to make the people can

say, you know, I'm going to eat with my panace, I'm going to get a manned, me can't,

mehors of a version vegan, that's, there's many there's many there's much there's quite

because one says, I'm vegano and you're a lupon and a lup on the and the

person that's that's, and that's the cintuitive, no, no, it's just that just they're just trying, no?

But it's important to say to all the veganos, that it's important for the animals or the cause that that are also because if we

we're going to do you have to do a problem. Well, I hope that not you see that the television

with a fritoveano eat a fruit and a birdura for your health. And they're

doing this videos because Antonio trycian the fritoveanos and all

that I'm but something to make to make more more in the the understanding of this

style of that's the kind of there's a kind of a this is a good, and so God

do you know, the universe entire, he put to do it, what I'm going to do it, how it was the stories,

there's a she said, oh, is that I'm a realde to the cruelad of the chives and I decided to

give to me to come me, no, that was I was my stories in my Facebook, in this time

there was there was Instagram and I had a channel of YouTube, But you see my stories, I do

in the moment that's because I'm not for my health. Then there's other cases, like the

case of Leonardo DiCaprio and other people that's the way that's does a question what he's doing to

the planet and says, I'm to minimize or I don't completely of eating animals

for the ecology. And what what happens is that every person and then

we're we're we're we're in a place in a common, but in the center in your

heart, the motivation is very distinct, when it's for something that's more than more than you, of your health personal, without it's for the planet or for the animals, that when it's only for your health personal. No, I'm not I'm not saying anything to do not, but

there's a motivation distinct. And what we have to understand is that in the case of our carer robana, and to her motivation initial, was his health. The majority of the people who enter a diet

vegetarian, it's a very the 70, 80% the 20% and then result it's when one

it's not that one does for the animals and when one does it for their health,

and there's a difference very in the people that they deserta. Cabe

said, the majority of the people deserts they're a more

to more to one to be a more five, nine of they're going to go, probably

they're going to those they're they're they're in reality of

all. It's a whole. The grand majority, the great majority it's a good for your

health. The grand majority, but it's the are those who deserpan. Those are the those are

those who do do they're in, those who do they're that they're almost always always always always the

time. So, our work is to your health we're just we're coming the planet, we're making

a million of animals and to you know, it's to you know, that's the pastels with with the

way. It's that all is that all they're that they're not the question is

in the question is that we're in the image the that's in you know, you know,

I'm not you know I'm not it's, it's that there's a possibility that we

come and that's what does the difference between that someone enter or or deserte

of the diet. The to have a reason, how is, the to say,

I'd say, not could do you this is the question of the veganism

and that is what that There's a difference enormous of the people that deserts the veganism

or no and this only has to be with the reasons ethical. When

you incorporate a reason to your style of your your form to consume is very

distinct. Now, of those deserta and I know a much so,

much so among people, someone, someone my great friend

Karina Belasco that she she self denomina flexit

flexitarian or she that she enter and and out and

and he comes, the times that he wants, when he wants, according his your body, and it's all. She does for a thing

of the health. And she never has never said vegan. Never said that they're vegan, but those

who they don't and get and normally they're not at 100 but they they're a

diet ultimately cargated to the lab of the plants. 80% based on

plants, 70% and they're even as about in plants. I'm 80% crude and vegan. I'm, but, let's,

those enter and sell, not is that do they're not, for those cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, many places in Germany, in Switzerland, well, the same city in Mexico and in other capitals of America, Latina, they're going to be more

restaurants based on plants that no use the word vegan. And the 80-90% of those clients are people who are not veganos, but simply are minimizing their consumption of the car. And that's the statistic that is growing

more the number of people that is consuming less food and more food and more food

and more of the more of the other people but what they're in their in their intentions basically is his health

versus the difference that you're saying to be a realvert an activist to say

I see I mean a animalito to my little peters I'm in all the

animals and I think I'm that for the very much that I would not me

would be a backita or the peace. The theme is to understand that there a different

philosophy and motivation in the core of the way of the place you're going, and there's our work. For,

for making the difference in this word of the veganism and the based on plantas. For yeah

not to make that not a confision, let us, let me make sure, one is an food based

in plants, the other is a philosophy of life. The veganism is that. And I want to

the activists, to the veganos, to back two rallities, as is the reason, because if

we're doing the reducetarianism is this philosophy of you go reducing my consumer and the activists, and the activists,

are they're going to beciful, there's a lot, there's there's there's certain, there's there's,

but if we know those reducetarianists are going much much the consumer and are much more

people than the veganos. So, they're just they're doing to move to do you

not that occasions that the people end up you know I'm not I'm getting

into my because they're locus. We're getting the reasons, we're making them as much a manner

amable, of the way they're doing what they're doing what they're doing that's normal, that their

families come in that's that they're going to questioner for the health,

we're having them we're having platforms. Now be you a platform new

is called Come Conciences and they're talking not, we're

things of things of things of those we'll share the information of Dr. Mauricio. We're going to also the questions

of the media animals, like the people want to be the people don't want to see the people not want to be the same, we're going to

the things bonitas of the veganism for that in some moment understand these reasons etical that's they're going to

beganos then we're going we're doing a change but not a time of violence, of noho to start

critiquing to be the same and the the head of Robana, because she quirked, and she

quirked and the person, he's a kind of the person, we're not, and that the

word vegan, but not was not, no, no, agredio to the veganism, even

without the word that's to be it, but no, the veganos are not we're not

opportunity now, we have to make sure to show us that we're a man is a case, and so

his practices that gave to get to get to But that the veganos are sanos. We're going to do our analysis,

we're going to present us, we're going to care more, we're going to keep doing a little of frittovegano but also sano.

Fritovegano, they've got to a product of an company that's called Beyond Meat that had a hamburger

deliciousa. Acabed to a salchita vegana without soy and gluten does it does it,

I mean, I'm sure, I was, I, I, I, I, and never I never

I thought I was, I'm going, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the color

and all the thing I'm, I've got getting more rechazz, obviously, because I'm not I'm

not I'm not going to the food, so I'm going, so I'm going to but the

flavor, I'm just about. I know, I don't know I'm not so I'm not so much that's

new flavors in the veganism that too I'm can't. Well, this salchiche

of Beyond meat, is the thing more more a lot, but it's the thing

more carnivora. I've been said, no, the proe because you can't

be a not a car to be a pork. It's incredible. It's I mean, I mean

I used, but the flavor, but my back. My years years, I said,

no, no, no, no, I'm not. It's has passed. It's been

that's passed, but that has been dedicated not for the veganos that you

don't want to the food of the animals, it's dedicated

for the car that They want to continue eating that's exactly like the

but are you know that it's not not matter and not contaminate the planet and that's more for their

health. So what we need to understand the veganos activists is that the the cresimient

more great of the consumption of animals not animals of actually not is done because

every person is going being in vegan if it's doing the

consumer general of the people not vegan that simply simply plantas.

So, what one of us does a veganism and we're going to be in a style of

life and we're a lot of that we're doing that we're that's the grand, the grand triumph, because the

statistic that you could you could you hear you say that we don't, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, we're going to the, the market and the market general of the consumer is a

current in form exponential of these markets, and there is where it's where it's Although not so

that's that's where is the grand triumph that we're we're in,

really. Totally. It's just a question to be the lot of the stuff and go one to

the same of the let's not not they're not from origin animal. They're all of

all right and one think, well, I think, it's people who it's people

that's generally for their because know that has done because you know,

so you then you then you start to start to and then we we're going growing

and how the vases there's how much the way? How many? How many? Because of the

places in those places in the world, they're going to be growing. And if the people start to

more leches vegetal, then for the number of the number of vacas torturated.

Sure. And many say, I don't let's that market that that's a

other market of the origin animal. I'm to do my money.

And you if you could if we could be if you could be elige, but if no,

that's good that exist in these marcas and that even if it's for market, that even if it's not the money, you know,

it's that's that's that's not the way of the way to do it. Because the people just we're doing the animals and no

me important for they're in the new thing. Orhala that they're not that's ethical, but if no,

if it's they're doing doing so, what we're we're doing is, salvar animals, salvage the

planet, to be able the object, I'm over the world, I'm I'm sure, I'm sure, And I'm

that the world ideal would be in a form but I'm sure I'm very practical if Lala Saka's a al Mada, I'm I'm like,

I'm going to that's open in the mind and instead of being to be trying to attack to the leches, to the leches, and that's,

we don't let's let's, and those, those tontteras that are other companies, and say, oh, yeah,

because I'm to be doing this money, they're doing this money, I'm making the other move the consumer, and the other,

back, back, the rata, companies, Tyson, that is the company producer of the more destressigated of the world. Cabe to be a problem there with with the poe. I know what material had there. The news

said some days, bidding that they'd have passed many times. Well, they've invested millions of dollars in companies that are producing things veganas. What I'm going to do? I'll do. Because that's money, in instead of going to go to the production of more food, so far away from plants. So, you're

I know that the world not is the world ideal that I wish it, but the practice, the things are going transforming

a little to I applaud any change for minimum that I'm that I'm think we're we're going to

advance us but I'm in my life I'm very pragmatic I'm very practical I'm very

so you too you're I'm so I'm so I'm all the type of

activism it's all that people that's all you're all summa but again another

other how many of how many of animals are and these people who are doing their consumption those who

do they're doing for those vegetarians are doing many things. And if they're to make

for us to get to get to to get to eat to eat to eat to let's

talk about what's what's going to but we don't use that we're going to be

that we're not, we was going to do things with the circus and animals are that of

that's celebrity not perfect. And then they're to be to use. And those

who are saying, are the most of the same activists, the same veganos but you

not are perfected, but you don't you know, then your veganism is to

make a perfection, to make sure to do and say I'm so I'm superior to

or it? Or is for help to help? If it's for help, comprehend that

person that person also that's also, give you know, give the

information but do do the more, do the of the real to do you, you can multiply

this what's going and do you do this is going to and save a planet and save a many people. I'm quite with you.

I'm very practical. If a celebrity me says, I'm like, I'm like this kind of that's a practical cruel for the

animals and the boy, come. Begivenito. I'm a organization, you organization is so animal heroes. The organization

most great of the world is a peta. It's exactly exactly. It's super practical. So imagine if only the

celebrities of 100-veganas participate in their campaigns, no, invite to celebrities of to do the

people, that are able to be able to a little a area of your life, a portecita, a ventana

to say, okay, in this area, I'm in this area, I'm sure, that's a place, that's the

place, you know, you're not a door, and you can't be a day, you can't

do you do you know does it, no matter, because you're doing the things are that they're

making, even, that's just, what's we're that we're the night of the

morning, but the reality of the life is so. It's an evolution, it's a

change, it's a adaptation, it's a transformation that's a in the world, in the planet,

a lot of years to make that way, so I'm I'm going with a little that's a

little that I'm too, I'm in, I'm know, oh'all that Robana, I'm

know what's doing with her with her she's she was she was going to

to look solutions in the world based on plantas, the medical based on plants,

first of the first of the and I'm like that's that I'm really a, I'm mean, I'm like, and I

think it's, and if he regress to the 80% also, I'm, I get with the hope,

I'm not that no, so I'm sure that's me would be much a thing, for the planet and for

this philosophy, no? to find, or one of us is giving a great opportunity to talk about the

health. It's a thing that many times as many as much we're not not really

so super important when we do do that we do not our health, we can provoke to do that the animal

and not we're not we're not we're not we're not we're that's not even

that's getting in the carerererer or they or it's in the carerererer

because because it's that reality is so we're to

get in the not the desmaya. Vegano is a man who

he did for favor, we can care of more than the other even because

we're not a lup on the same. I'm sorry what we have to understand

is that Robana was and I hope to do she's she's she's

a blogger of style of life that that I'm with much

enthusiasm his style of his style to come to come to

event of activism animal of I was, I invited to some of them to get to find out some of the

photo where went to find out of a new thing, but that was the center of your life. The center of it was a diet

based in plants a style of a athletic, different, brilliant, sano, no, that was a

diet based in plantas, not an activist vegan, and that his motivation, to the

way to have certain disjusts in their health, was to continue a way that

she's a way to you want to be aftarce this style of and do you do this is a lot of

you're not just to be your health but it's a decision personal but the thing is distinctier.

No, To Galle. I want to invite to Robana if you see this video of

Robana, vent to the festivals veganos again, now as she also all the

conferences, and listen to all the reasons for the that are to be vegan,

listen to the medical, listen to other things, because you are like any of us like you're like you're

on the other those who, well, you know, they're not to go, get to the people,

acer to the doctors, listen to the questions, listen to the other people, the other the reasons for

those that we we're doing, and I'm sure, that you're going to go back and you're going to be a

sound, because you're going to have you, you're a new possibility. So, I want to invite Arubana

and to all those who are like she like she because me I gave also

people that's that I'm a bit I'm a little bit of because I'm a

very much I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so much informants, we're

we're a great opportunity. Thank you Robana for giving us to give us

that there's that we don't we're taking that we we're not that's

those details activists activists alert I to keep to care these

good there's the doctor Marizio Gonzalez Sala Cola Cola

Cola Cola com, no? P.org. That's a... Comet.org. is a site that's a in development and that

about just about in the style of life based in plants, but from the point of a point of view, 100 scientific, the podcast, that's here in the

channel of YouTube and Mark Antone, R.gill.com. There's a lot of episodes with Dr. Morris-Monsales and with Carlita Zapplana

and other specialists. We're already in a series with two doctors of medicine China. Yeah, we've been

the first episode. Talves when you see this video and it's the second. No, I don't know, but the medicine

China that incorporates the the thing of the emotions, of the alimentation, and of the energy, and this is in hospitals of China. And these two doctors,

pardon, in medicine, China, we're claring this. So there's much information that we've put that's available for that all us inform us.

I thank you much, Tocayo, your time. And I think I'm thank you, I think you, I'm a organization and a movement

that has been pacifico and that's in these vegans, that are the people are the when you're when you're

in the publicia vegan, in the vegan inojaro, that crucifes to all, that is the most leal

that we can do it for the animals. It's when we're we're not to get us and I

know, I know, I'm very to do you, and I'm also I'm other organizations similar, for

much, thank you, so Kyo, just is invite then also to the activists,

to all, to those to the other, to do you guys, know the organization. Also, there are much other organizations

that I'm that I'm going to thank you that I'm doing what we're doing. The movement is growing much too.

There's to not it's all to be friends and all to be working together. It's going to be so.

I'm going to respect to all the causes, respect to Robana, respect in all, no? Surely we'll have we're

to get them to get us. Dugn't them we're doing in Mexico, a planet more in peace. If you

are a person, you're in aftoado, you can't say to the to what we're to say,

to do you don't know, not you have to be not you're because then you're not going to give to

another, you can't I would have been I'd have been glad and I

feel defrauded and I'm a second I'm a second sure that you know you can say that's

it's all that's all that retrolimitation but you're a tal for quade blah blah blah and that's

the that's the that's the thing is the that's contaminatinging so you don't you

not you're not you're you're you're you're you can't we're in accord

in in this agree, in doing, to give us retro-alimentation, critiqued us,

but in peace, without that violence, that's the only we're not we're defending it,

we're not we're doing to nobody, nor justifying nothing, simply we're we're not our point of

view of a place, so I'm so thank so, thank you, so, when someone

when someone insults in the social, one thinks that's that's very,

and it's I'm, I'm know, no. The fact is that no, you see as someone who knows who knows that's not

that's really to insult to others and make them to see. So, you see, no, see. So that recommendation

too. And thanks, Mark, for this space, thanks Robana for the opportunity to talk of this time.

And thanks to all the activists that are their life, that are their hours, that voluntarily make their

work, because the animals, because the planet live a better, because nobody those

everybody, so thank, thank, thank, Thank you, Mark, for that activism that's also and for dar boss to all this. See in Animal Heroes in Instagram

and in Facebook and look us also in your site of internet. And thanks, Antonio Fran Yuti. Subscribe to, subscribe to the channel of YouTube. Much thanks.

Until the next.