El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 076: ¿Rawvana come pescado porque es peligroso ser vegano?

Episode Date: November 12, 2017

Después de las declaraciones de mi queridísima amiga Yovana Mendoza (Rawvana) con relación a su salud y los motivos por los cuales decidió hacer cambios a su dieta basada en plantas e incluir alimentos de origen animal, hemos recibido muchas preguntas donde la principal inquietud es si realmente una alimentación basada en plantas es confiable y 100% segura. Para contestar estas dudas de forma directa, sin rodeos y con base en la evidencia científica, decidí invitar al Dr. Mauricio Gonzáles quien gracias a su profesión y a su propia experiencia de vida (ya que él es vegano) puede orientarnos de forma responsable y documentada para que salgamos de dudas de una vez por todas. El Dr. Mauricio nos explica con detalle por qué alguien vegano y aparentemente “sano”, puede caer en deficiencias alimenticias, no porque la alimentación basada en plantas sea insuficiente, sino más bien debido a errores y omisiones básicas en su dieta.

Episode 76. The podcast of Marko Antonio Regil is a production of RGL Entertainment, and all his rights are reserved. Amigos, what are you? I'm Mark Antonio Regil, and I salute here in casa, in Miami, Florida, and in this occasion, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, in New York,

also in your house, to my dear friend, the Dr. Mauricio, Gonsalice. Good afternoon. How are you? Hello, Mark, very good. Much thanks for this interview. You're very well, so... And so... And vestigo of Rosa.

And the besti of... more scientific that could have encountered the color of the veins and the arteries. It's the color of Florida,

I think. The color of Florida, exactly. Well, and you thank you give us the

time for this conversation, Mauricio, because, obviously, you know, what we motivate to

bring us is to bring clarity scientific to the time of the time of those

last time, Yovana Mendoza, and the more known in the social as Yobana,

like Yobana, where she she, um, so he's a video in YouTube where he's about the certain

conditions that is living and, and the reasons for the questions she, she, she, she,

she, she, she, was the food, so obviously, this desat many, I imagine,

that you, Maurice, in your social, like to me, has been been getting a quantity

of a number of questions, and no me refer to those who are no to her,

and to that is another thing, that is our thing, and not we're not we

we're going to get there, but in the thing medical, in the thing of

the time of the thing of I'm, I'm I'm going a diet

vegan or I'm getting my diet to based on on and I'm

getting with the crudy veganism or I'm my level

of my food and and I'm to what she

says me cause a confusion and and that's

what that's what not no Marisio to give

a you you you're medical, and to talk very clearly of that's for that there's a

question in the people that know I'm sure. Sure, Mark, definitely. My thought my

thought resuena the 100 with what you're saying. I'm going to start the introduction of that

interview saying that I know personally a Yobana. You know, you know, personally a Yobana. We know,

we know, we're a person of genuinely-nament, not, passing for a problem of health, of life

we'd And is trying to to find the best solution possible to this. And, well,

is, being she's a person that's highly, obviously, this is exposed at

a level basive and and it can't understand or understand or correctly. The

truth is that is that I don't know and I'm a judge of that because

that's only in their case of life and what particularly there is what I

can say with security Marko and this is I want to that's the theme central in

this interview is that a diet based on a practice, has

a travel a time a decade of the data of a day, we know,

with various declarations and the declaration of the Ant American Academy Nutrition

Dietetics where it's in in the 2016 where it is clear

a diet based in plantas well planned and sufficient is

is a good and can have the effects second beneficial to reduce

the cargo of the health generative in our society modern

where more of the health for the diseases for the there

are these are these so not only the

diet based in plantas has has done has

many many a victim a speculations infundated about if it's deficient,

not? But we know we know with studies well designed that's an adjuvante tremendous to reduce the

cargo of health care coronatives. And not only so that we also we also we

also now the society of nutrition Italian is very very concentrated in

publiced articles in the last two years have published two papers

that for me are tremendously utiles where it's where they're that's

that they have habits based on their children, to do you in all the life, with the

food with the plantas for that can't reunite all the nutrients

that they need, there's there's there's a movement tremendous to

to educate to the population to get this style of appropriate

properly. And the the thing here is that like it's

like, every all the days all those we know to families, to people that no

give a diet based on plants and that suffer a amount of and that they're in they're

emergencies and have paros carisos and Alzheimer's like the case of my mom etc but nobody

says ah it's because I'm because I'm it's because he's a catarro

to a vegan and ah it's because not he didn't come

a car no he Robin Williams that fellesio ah, is that it's that

it's that it's a bad of your or now in the case of our conditions that are saying this because it's

because it's there's a enormous injustice because because the fact the science is saying other thing is

another thing in the podcast just about this recommendation this recommendation international to reduce to the

middle respalded by the UNU if no me I'm not I'm not going to reduce to the middle of the consumer of

the United is the consumer to two to eight times more more than the necessary and to increase and to the

consumption of fruit and vegetables. So one thing is the life that we include that we we share

in our social, people, people that simply not we are not not we're not tricinists

and not we're not our style of life and other thing is the science. And for

so the question of this interview was to talk with a scientific, with a medical,

that's the doctor Maurice and so from the point of the question, pardon,

this preamble that long for the question is, we can't say, if a not,

that a diet based in plants, a diet vegan, is a healthy, is completely

solidable and that no, there's that not other people, that don't

have, that they don't get this diet. Sure, that we can't say,

a diet based in plant is a is a pattern nutritional that if

if you have done in a correct, is sufficient, and that's good, can prevent

infernalis for me this declaration is more than sufficient for not to have not to

do you're these extrapolations that when, for example, a person based on a plantas

has been a catarro, is because adopt a baton a batheh in plants. Well,

this is this is an extrapolation ridicula of the actually I think you and we

have to let us keep very in clear certain terms for that this

interview is that's probably appropriately and the people understand

the concept clear. The veganism is a style of

based in ethics the veganism is a style of where

where it is to to the animals to

not not they not they not not so for

for the foodation and for other things of use daily. The diet based on

plantas is a term nutritional and medical that can be confused with a diet

vegan, but in reality is a style, a pattern of style of life

that has been to be aballated medically scientifically scientifically. Today.

Today we we're to be the nutrition based in plants because about

the veganism would be to get us in other

thing. A nutrition based on plants led to a call for a professional with information fidegna is completely san. Completely san. Completely san.

Sano? No, they're absolutely nothing to be preoccupies, when when comps with the requisites elemental,

those which, in brevet, without meterns in words ambiguous, is to consume a diet that contain fruit, verduras,

cereals, cereals, cereals, cereals, leguminososas, semillas, leguminososos, and supplement of vitamin B-12 and vitamin D.

And, maybe in some occasions, and in some cases, Omega-3, of origin vegan, can be another supplement that's able to use, more than excess,

to stop, to do you, and really, that is what we can do humanly for maintaining to our health. So, so the people

that are confused with the video that Yobana expus, that think, well, is that Yovana took those problems in health, he was to start to eat those problems

in health. I think it's an extrapolation that not is clear, not is lineal, and no has a sense from my perspective. So, you as to say,

you know, and that's clarke-al-lars, you know, you're not, the medical of Yovanna, and Yovana no, when, I,

when, took those problems, you, as a medical, you, you as much, you would have recommended to eat,

I would have, Well, for If she had had problems gastrointestinales, she definitely has to go with a medical

qualified for this, I'm a medical internist and she has to go to a medical gastroenterologist. The medical gastroenterologist

not going to get to get to and say, you have to eat to eat to eat to

do this. No, it's a battery of studies, history clinical, studies of image, no.

So, really, I know, no see the case of Yobana. I don't know, but for I'm not

I'm not not quite this, of what he knew, but you get to a treatment

after a medical, the pathos normal is that all the people who see they're

that they know, a condition known as Cibo, that is small intestine

bacterial overgrowth, the growth, the no don't have a population

enormous of bacteria in the intestino delgated, and crees in the intestino

of the bacteria that are only only to have It can, not 100%, but

it can be associated to a infirmities of the health can be associated

to other pathologies for the so it's important that if the people that they

have seen or if have received a diagnostic of this for other medical,

etc. They're to submit to a manh to a evaluation concis

for a specialist in the material a to be to

make to make modifications dietarious in persons that this condition CIV, after that have been analyzed completely

for a gastroenterologist. I don't know what is the case of Yovana, but that's, that's the recommendation. Yeah, obviously.

Yeah, I remember when I took my, my problems that were gastritis, colitis, yesofagitis, my gastroenterologist,

the doctor, Jose Luisio Barrola of the Hospital Angeles of Pedregal in the city of Mexico, that still he's,

he made a brazo with all carino, obviously me a colonoscopia, a endoscopia, he said literally

videos that me showed and we saw the, he was trying the cintre that was up the stomach, and me

he was made in level three, and I was there was a badest, and there was that he said, I,

I, I, I, I, I think you, I'm, I'm, I'm,

you know, I'm, I'm, other, I'm, arenas, aren't, and,

et, et, and not I did cause. No, I did a vegan

after I'm, I'm going to get a vegan for reasons of the when I did, me quit around the symptoms. and I was the way to get to take pasties, and when I was done to do you do

do a bit to do you, I'm going to live a long life. That's what me said, and he's a little. I'm saying, I'm going to be the

example. But, sure, it was after a series of studies. It's been months of studies, of the

treatments, et cetera. So, no can't do you know a say, the people that's a

person who does it say, I, I'm, I'm going to do it's a same, or me can't do you

are doing that's a question to many people. And I want to try to this line

that you put into to emphasize a little, I'm just soplica to all the people that us listen to listen, if you're in something, if you're in a

symptom or a series of symptoms, if you're signos, that are demonstrating that something is that's going to to take is to go to a medical qualified for that you know, to establishes a story

clinical, examines physical, examines for clinical, because that is the only form in the way you can't come to know what is what is going to

do it. It's better to go to the is sure, that's a good point of view of

scientific, there's, there's some relation between the Sivo, that's this is this

over-crecement bacterial in the intestino delgated? There, there's a relation

between this and be vegan, and get a diet based in plantas, or this

is something to be a person getting the diet that is something. This is something that

is something to be a person, and he can be other trastorn gastronal so,

the Sivo can be a manifestation of gastronous gastrointestinales subjacenties. Yeah. A person that has

had been other, a person that has been, for example, problems alimentisios, anorexia,

bulimia, or so, they can have been to have been done in the system digestive. They can

be part of, you can be a symptom of a problem more and of more fundamental. Yes,

it can be symptom of a problem more not necessarily those you mention generally

those the the transornes that are associated as civilities inflammatory intestinales and are various names

of the formality conceptual called a sombril as infirmities inflammatoryes. So, for that are

many possibilities Marco, muchiermas possibilities for what you have to have an evaluation with

a gastroenterologist calificated. Yeah. Also, she mentioned the thing of the vaginitis

and the candida. This is it related to some way with being vegan or get a diet

based on a plant and other other way it's something? It's something that's definitely what can't happen to

any person. The vaginitis for candy is the cause number two of vaginitis at a level and a

grand percentage of the people that are the that are not letal and that is fastel

and that's easily treatable with a medication that can pass and the majority of the

a person completely sanas without any type of problems nutrimental or of

deficiencies et cetera so so so you can't extrapolar an infection vaginal

for candida a a style of a life based on plantes definitely well

now there also there also there's that is the that's maybe has been fomentado

for some some bloggers some YouTubers with the most of the

intentions and is this is this is this is this that I'm ever

I'm a good I'm a lot of I'm I'm sure, I'm I'm know about my

I'm getting things that's real for me. Like, since I do a car no, I don't say, I'm a car,

I'm a, I'm a bad, and it has pegged me, I'm a bit more that I'm very soon.

No, I don't have no problems in the stomachas and inflammation and, I,

so I'm in general, a health much more than the more than the more than than I'm

I mean, it's a mytho also is a me I'm a new and I'm afermo and me get to get a then it's not that the veganism

or that the diet based on plant was the solution. What do you think is this to you're commenting? Definitely is a notion

very extended in all the community vegan that the veganism can protect against hundreds of the and if

it's been it's a strategy tremendous to prevent certain types of different types of different types of not means

that a person vegan or a person that's a a diet based on plant, is immune to the improprieties. For nothing, the diet based in plant,

is the style of a good healthy, Marco, in general, has a better the treatment of medical. No, it means eliminate the treatments medical and eliminate the

knowledge of scientific that the medicine modern has been been able to have been able to get into hundreds of years, and it's

to help you to reduce the incidence of immunoconinativeness. But it can pass. Nobody is perfect. And all we can't have been in a carous, I've had to be able to a catarrot,

I've had other palli of the same thing, and are common and coriants in the population. And for nothing, it means that because your diet is based on plant, and it's a lot. And also, a part, is a minute that we're protected against all those types of therapies, because that's not true. So, you know, to get a condition of life and you disminuels the possibility of certain therapies. Correct. The other one, in Telemundo, in a new day, I've had two medicos,

and we're talking of this, it's a, it's a, it's a, that's sufficiency that's suiting of the people young that they're

going to them to be them because it's more common that's more that's more that's a

thing that something more more than a carriac and basically at the interview the recommendation

of them and one of both was a medical a person was a

person more than it was not more saner. It was obviously to do you have a

life active, consultar a medical and come more more san and they

about to reduce the levels of grass. And I was the air, and I go, so obviously,

the more grass like, tucinosin, chamones, and this grass animal, is forming part of my, all my

body, circulate less the and it's more probably that me do a paro-cardiac or a, how it's

a, how's a, an embolia, an embolia, exactly, an attack. An event vascular cerebral.

Exactly. So, less, less anger, the brain of the brain of the and they're

more, and they're they're they're they're, and they're they, the

And the grasses, especially animals, are more dangerous, et cetera. But not is that you guarantee. I mean, me, I mean, Marcos, he's, oh, Marcos, he's more, because he was a vegan. No.

No, no, no, I'm mori because it was a vaguely of a paro cardiacos and me get to talk to, because any one's can't happen. But me disminuely the possibilities of that me do

a paro cardiac or an embolia. Is correct? It's totally correct. No, I don't know to adder it. You know a manor phenomenal. Now, Antonio Fran Yuti

the Animal Heroes me encargo this question. Me, go, I wonder the doctor, Mauricio, this is with based in studies, but today

all the world has studies, how do you do do you do? How do you do I go to? Because all me says,

according studies, eat more peskos, according studies, eat more san, etc. To what

do you do do you do? This requires a question large, but not all those studies have

the same methodology. There are some studies that have methodologies than other. Today for

today, we have to know, we was revised by pares. We have to know if this studio was prospectives and was randomized, double-siego. Not all those studios are equal. In general, the studies that are taken as the standard of

of the order, Markos, are those that me I'm encantan that, unfortunately, are many in the epidemiology nutritional, are the studies double-siego randomized. An example very, very simple. Imagine us that a pharmaceutical develop a new medicament for the pressure arterial.

We just we take a group of persons that have the pressure arterial and we're two groups.

These two groups have characteristics like the same number of women and women and the same

the same the same medium of groups, the same levels of cholesterol, the same the same

grade socioe we're not we're not that we're very similar and a group receive the

medication that we we're trying to experiment and the other group receive a placebo and

And then several weeks or or a better than years, we're going to the result

of a major reduction in pressure in the heart of heart to use to do you cardiovascular,

menor infidency of infestive in bollias et cetera, et cetera, et so. That is the

form of validation scientific more credible, more fidegna, more more, more,

more more, more in the world scientific actual. The world nutritional

is a world, I'll say, is like a old this, everything

is fair game. like, as we want, as we want, as we can't talk about, and that's quite a lot of confusion. Of fact,

when I'm to do conferences, to talk in videos, I've always thought that my job was to educate to the person and after

I made a point that my job was to quit mites urban of the minds of the persons. So, and so.

And that's an interview. We don't think we think a myth urban of that vaginitis,

the candida and the Cibon and the diet based in plants, that's a clear, that's not

there's clear, that I'm doing questions of other than other than other than other than

the rest social is, it was the crudy veganism because Yovana started

a new a diet no vegan but not really very pox calories. I remember

that when I knew it, we could even to not even even to not

not come nothing, that not, that not, that not, that's not, uh, with limon

around around and us we're going to to eat a whole foods or a jimbos there, to do it, to make us

a salad because we don't go to a restaurant and so it's he's done a year, eating

food and vegano. What is the difference between the crudy veganism and the veganism?

Because is what the people are the people are asking because that is the style of the even you

even even went co-cicnada, in its major part, still giving a diet basically crude-divagan. You, what do you think

is the crude-veganism, the difference between these two things, not of this stuff, that the people is what I'm saying, well,

what I do with my life? I can't give my opinion, as a medic, a diet crudy-vegana. I've seen,

in my experience, many people that have adopted a diet based in plants in a way crudy-ve-

and not consume the quantity of the calories and and all of the other

they're not, no, not they not, not the definitely is a mode

more, you know, for more, so it's the life routine a little bit more difficult.

If I mean you're a point of a point of a bit of a diet that has a , you're a

good and plans, of organisms like the Ant not you don't they don't don't they're they're not

they're not they're not they're recommend that if you're to opt out in plants have to be

a vegan so so so I think not think to adopt aivna for afts ari-vegana

for that not going to not about other people I know many people that are many people who

are many people and obviously carnivorous of my amic and veganas,

I know a various, that in this circle is very common to be presuminging that's

the menstruation. Me said Crudy vegana, yeah no I'm do it every month, I'm that's good

that's you're going to the menstruation? When there a menorrea that is the term right, that's the

lack of menstruation in a person who had menstruated in a life, definitive is synonym

of something of something. This interview is more to a displeia the

disclos the to the menorreysa secondary, but a men a minute when a woman experiment a menorrea

secondary, it can bevers to a deficit caloric important, a deficit caloric important and

a deficit of a physical or important that generate causes hormonals that generate a

other and this can't bring effects not desiables to the body human,

no, a back in the density osia, a reduction of the mass muscular,

etc, and many So, a diet based on plants, Mark, no, has to be restrictive. Nobody said that a diet based on plants is restrictive. You have to eat the calories that you need to have a good functionation corporal.

Okay? Cable to mention that many women experimented this, not only in the world based on plants, but in other types of dietas restrictive, no? Ah, also in other types of restrictive. Yeah, calories are very bad. And no, for much time, and your percentage of

a grass is a the level a level of a sure that's if a if a woman

said it if a exerer for you for you to be a attender to attender to

immediately. You know, you need to get with a gynecologist or a general a way

rapid and establish the cause of this. And something that I'm have confiated too,

is that normally what comes is a partida of the appetite of sexual.

I know don't want to have relations, you know, has been relations, and has

coociano problems with problems with his spouse, in their life personal, because it's that you know

it's that the end uptoe can be a effect of the secondary, the minor rea secondary, yeah,

it's definitely someone that would be to be able to a person specialist, in this case, is a

gynecologist, a gynecologist. My dear Dr. Morris and that's To start, what you

want you say? Well, Mark, the message final is the message of the

first of a diet based in plantas sufficient, varied, is an approximation

a sound for the population, for the population that has

been to be very useful to make to prevent in the health

in the society that we live in day of today,

no they proteins, fibra, do you, fomber, and not get in any kind of

any kind of of excess, no have absolutely nothing to have to have. And for some of the

diet based on plants, it can be rapid and for others can be very gradual and very

despacito and for some of a more not going to be a 100% simply

it's a minimization of the animals of the animal and maximis

the origin vegetable. Every who has their has their has a process, and have to go,

you have to check on, no, we're going to with the doctor, you're going to check on, examines of the same,

see your different your different, but you're monitoringing, little to little, no has been

to happen to not expect to be that, not you pass in years for you get the symptoms of

something, then in form of a desperate, uh, to be a solution. For support,

for that's super important. If you have a problem of the health, they're,

they're, I know that sometimes us help us to hear our our mothers, to our

friends, our friends, our friends, our friends, our people that's not I'm not going to

all the people have to be a lot of but at final of day you want a time you want

a way a way of a response for some symptoms that's tenient

and no there's other person more do you have been and then you

have been on your medical if you have some question

Yeah, there. There's a studio, there's a studio randomized, double-sego that demuestre that the cold you can't

when you know. I mean, that no. No, I know. No, I know. Well,

I don't know. I don't know. Of the vegetables, and they're doing some of the studio chaffa. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Really. Mark. Bye. Thanks, amy. God.

Cueides. There's all. All right. Thank you. I hope this interview. I'm going to subscribe to my

channel of YouTube because we're going to continue doing videos. And also we'll like. Leave comments. And I remember

that we have two episodes of podcast of Dr. Mauricio Gonzales that I recommend. The episode number 46

that's called five Concegos of Dr. for a life san and a life and the episode

499 that is the power of the protein vegetable. They're are here in my

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