El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 089: El caso Rawvana, ¿Qué opina una nutricionista profesional?

Episode Date: January 13, 2019

Para darle seguimiento a la controversia surgida a raíz de las declaraciones de Yovana Mendoza (Rawvana), con respecto a su salud y a la alimentación basada en plantas, entrevisté a Carla Zaplana, nutricionista profesional. Hablamos acerca de los problemas puedes encontrar tanto si eres vegano como si no lo eres, cuando descuidas tu alimentación ya sea por falta de la asesoría adecuada o porque dejas de consumir todos los nutrientes que tu cuerpo necesita para estar sano.

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a production of RGL Entertainment, and all his rights and all the time. From Miami,

I'm much carieieie my carlita Zappana from the Miami to Europe,

at the other side of the Charco. And my my dear friends, as we

have been we're going to make more video about this the theme of our great Robana

and her food and his change to eat to eat peskado, but over all of the confusions that

were around of this. We've used to talk with the doctor Mauricio Gonzalez the last last and

well, we've been a medical, a medical general, and now where to the medical

every time you're going with him and you have been with him and you get a

the nutritionist the person. That's there they van. So, now the logic is

with Carla, about all the things, not about the case specific of Yovana, because obviously Carla,

also is a notaryologist, right? And you know, you have in examines medical, and the

thing that's what you're going to about these circumstances that's that's happening with based

in your experience and with your education, professional. I'm going to respond to many

questions that also have been going surging, no, to many of the

symptoms that Yovana I have a, in your video, and to clarify, then are conditions, or conditions medical, or conditions

of health, that can't pass to all the world, not the motive principal for the which is passing by this

condition, is the thing of being a percent vegetable, no, save an food-based.

So I've many patients that have candida or that tend in sybo or other conditions and they're

they're eating protein of origin animal. And it's very important to talk of this, because, v. Vaya, it's not only in social,

that was the normal and the expected. It was about. It was in the television abjured, of Argentina, of Mexico, of the States,

in Spanish, and in English. Univision he dedicated 12 minutes to discuss the news, and then they did an interview

special, where also also, she also, she did in Fox in English. So, the,

the theme repercutue that was a, or is a blogger or a personality of social social, was based on in plants and was very known for this.

So, so it was a shock in the world, no? Because much people, it was molested. Others,

they were, they said, well, why not you me told me what you what's going, so you're

so you're going to do you're to make the things from the point of the point of

a diet based in plantas. I am with all my I'm a Yovanna, but

also I'm vegan, I'm a diet based in plants and I'm a question that things are

and I'm to make a great idea that you have you have you you know, and that's

disprestige, and it's what's what has been that's what has been a lot of the time

of the periodism is also very manipulated and only they're just are titulares

to do to do and now right now we're movement more vegan or the style of food of the style of

land-based, is in a moment of aouge, and only a little little motive for the part contrary, or the

people more oppositor to this, only a little a little hither to a little hilly to try and start a

big titular, and this not we need and in the case that we're talking that in particular no is

motive, or much or less for to point or to start critiquing or

to find that a limitation plan based is a motive of misquilibriors of health or a bad

or that is a sustainable in the life or a kind of an style of an

kind of that's that you can maintain for a now now you as a

nutritionist professional and if you want to do you want to do you

when you when you when you see the when you When you see the video and the declarations of Yovana with respect to the solution that she recommended and that she's

going to eat with food and pescado with the conditions that has, what you think, what is the first that came to your mind that you'd like to share with us? I, the first thing is that, well, also,

me, me, surprised you, but the first that is, no, in, not in good hands,

no, I do the professionality of the doctors, to the, to those that she acudeo, but are professionals of the health that have been formed

about a certain of an alimentation based in plants and that respondent. There are doctors and the doctor Mauricio and there are many other doctors

in the United who also that can be close to her or to be able that if they're in this style of alimentation

and are doctors equal. So I in the personal as a person that's that's a

the position of the would be used to a lot of a position of that's not a doctor more that's been used to a student more conventional

the same that I mean me mentioned are in the university I'm coming to have protein and be be be leech for your calpio so that

would have, uh, uh, uh, uh, professional of the, that's the,

this style, this style of this style of this style of the same, yeah, not just to, uh, for,

to put it in the record, she, she didn't, uh, this period, no, okay, perfect.

So, well, so, I'm, I'm a person who, someone who's, would immediately

recurried to you, to you, as a, because, when I was, when I was, when I was,

the condition the, uh, and, and, and, and, And although my medical no is vegan,

I said, I'm going to get with my nutritionist, and me said, perfect, me seems very well. I have a medical in this moment, a doctorate in Los Angeles, that practice the two medicines. It's really very abjointed, and she, although not is vegan,

and she, sure, perfect. It's what you have to do with someone that's not, because as I don't practice this style of life. I don't know I'm informed,

of where you can't get the nutrients, but the only that you have to do is to get to grass in the ligato. Not all those doctors doctories do they're

doing the most times directly recommend they're what they're they're doing and study

without to do a pass to do to other professionals that are more specialised in this. It's that

there's that doctora well, live in Los Angeles and he has a much patients that are vegan

and my Dr. Jose Luis Ybarrora Vibarrola gastroenterologist that mentioned in the interview in

the doctor's in Mexico are also more more is of mind very open.

The first recommendation would maybe that if you have a problem of health you have a person that

that's a person who that's a mind about. Exactly. That's that you the curation

or the solution from that this point of the point of your style of

your style of your style of the equipment that the person we need to a

food in a plantas for that that is that that's so

we're we're we'll get into this reign of the origin vegetal, the solution

or the ingredients that are to puter more of a nutrient or less to

other to help our needs to those those those those those

those we're having because people many people who see in

an alimentation carnivora or omnivora suffer of aminorrea

suffer of thyroid suffer, Cundidid, suffering of cardiopathies, suffering of cancers,

and not they're not of their style of their kind of a normal or a

problem, or with the end, all the world, all the world, this is the

thing, a person a person, a person should be a normal, it's normal,

to make a a pascilla to do you or it is normal a pildora

that to lower the tension arterial, this is normal. But, but you know, but you have been

normalized. So, so, the hundreds of patients that you've attended in your career as

a nutritionist professional, has attended people and not veganas that have had been problems of

hormones, SIbo, candida, aminorrea, desolens food, food, so,

so, not be the non- being the no, and you can't say,

and the majority of my patients not are vegan. If Yobano would

have professional, you had said, I'm going to these problems, those that you mentioned in your video,

what would have been your approximation professional to try this? The CIVO, which is the most, we know, it's

an alteration of the microflora intestinal, is a precarcement bacterial in the intestine

delgated. Normally, the majority of the microorganisms that we have in our system digestive,

they're all in the colon, in the intestino more gross. When we have used

of when we have, or if we suffer of colon or irritable, we have problems of evacuation or strain or many diarrhoea, but also when we have much, much, much stress and much anxiety or much tension

or much car, emotional, also can be altered the composition, the type of bacteria that we have in our system digestive, our colon, over all,

and also the displacement. Also, can be displaced some of these bacteria, and enter through a through the

shinter that unes that unes the intestine delgated and the intestine more gross

then for there some some some and I think I think

from my point of the first diagnostic or what what I can

what I have predominated in the patients that have had had been

this have been these are that what they do is provoke this alteration of the microflora

intestinal. The theme of the candidiasis, for example, that also is an over-cremient of this type of

on our system digestive or also in our system reproductor, in the vagina, in the case of the

women, also can be very related to stress emotional. This is what mentioned

this is very important because, the podcast of this time, we have

the Dr. Ernesto Gerger and the Dr. Dr. my head that

studied medicine China in in China, where is not only the symptoms of

the health, but it's not the food the food and the emotions and

the levels and the energy. And, we're doing three podcast, starting

with the time, the this summer, is the time, it's directly to

the emotions and the relationship with the health your next

time will be the the your and the next the next

week will be your life to your and the time to the things to

the other than the medical in the hospitales and in the medicine China

are not in the medicine that we know the medicine that we know because and

it's and it and so this what you are talking is exactly

the line of the line of the medicine that the medicine that

is in orient where they are they stress and the emotions that finally

I've lived and when you have tried to me to my, you've made, you've made a mape of what emotions

was going to my emotions in the morning, all the time, all the program of television, for the

time, the time, the time, the time, what was it was going to get to the, in my

house, in my house, what things me did you, you made a diagnostic where you

took much in my emotions, correct? So, I think that every more we're more signals that the health not depends

only only of our state physical, but also it also depends of our state mental, our thoughts have a great

influence as how we and also our emotions, without going more lex the effect placebo, not?

Think that you're taking a medication and to feel better, simply for for

thinking that you're doing something good for your body. This thinking you're

and it's a lot of now right now I'm still I'm am about the

decision, the relation that is the way somatize and it's being every more

the relation between infartos or under paces in generatives like is

the cancer after after a problem, the murder of a or things that affect much and that

are that's traducin into the body in those cells degenerated or or that's not. Comer,

clean, is an alimentation for the body, for the mind and for the emotions. Because all

all end and all the end up, you're creating your unidad not only we're this, also we're

this, and this, and when there's an equilibrium and a balance of the three things,

we have a felicity or a un, a good matter of the time that we're talking is very important

because going to the case of Rovanna Yovanna Mendoza she comment justly in her video that she

had been going to a series of a change of San Diego to Los Angeles then he's

he's a Orange County and they're a series of a series of some very fertes

I know I know as a other my but I do you do what she is

what she's partying in his video of YouTube she mention that these changes

emotional were many. So this could, and I know that's a speculation,

but could have been part of the circumstance that was that was that's he transformed

in these symptoms. Without, no, Mark, has been changes of life,

changes of city, of moving but is that no has been these changes.

The work that's doing Yovana at the through the

REL the how is, to have to to tender to many,

millions of of the followers, this is much pressure, this is much stress. Here,

no has felt to move to do it, not it's it's like,

it's nothing of a job, but there much work, and you always

has also also also, there's much responsibility. So,

so, just, only this can, can create much stress and much anxiety,

and it's normal. Now, I, want to do two questions. One, from the point of view of

professional, as a nutritionist, you think it's just or unjust that's connected to the veganism or a diet based on plants

with the symptoms that had you have been a idea, that's that has been your intention to communicate to,

I don't think she has been able to communicate that. But, but, but, but,

the repercution in the social, well, it was a, a, a,

a, a, and, she, has had said, it's

about that it's doing it's, it's just that's that's

this is going to this is I'm miscar, yeah, has malinterpreted much,

I know was your intention, because I was defending also all the

good that a limitation based in plants he has done, but

if it has done a misperation even I've received many

many many questions on the Redes, Karla, is it's really that

the veganism or I'm going to to get a and I'm not, it's for nothing just that

that's related to certain things medical as veganism. The contrary, is that I

can't say that I'm my consulta have been guide to many people to see

a food more based on products of origin vegetable, even 10

percent vegetable, and cure curing, thyroid, curing, colesol,

tricididididis acid uric but also anemias, no, a lack of year, because a

sometimes when we come us, and I think that Yovana also the thing of the thing that

had suffered the amia, no, anemias is a of yerro and also they say,

come carne roger for to have given a many people, I've I have various patients,

the story of various patients, that came to my consult, trying to make sure their alimentation because they had some sort of, and that they were that they'd

learn more about a limitation based a 15% in vegetal, but they were they're a amia, a lack of

year. And I, with total security, I, I gave to give an limitation more

based in plantas, and so solutioned the problem. They're to eat carne,

they're many products of origin of animal and they're not there not they're

not they're not they're not used they're the problem was that they were the

the the psalalal they're some some those intestines

with so not not not not the not

the more you do you do you do you do you

not you're not absolutely the phrase that we

we could adjuster a little more and we we're just we're going to say that's what we're

literally because a very that's you can't be in some years. You can't be someies of semis of linazah

and a sometimes as all quite they're they're so we're really what we're really

what we come we're when someone when someone the diet in the diet based on plantas

that you recommend you consume cacao without this is the the

The food of the gods, for to start, but also the cacao, a dose of cacao that no chocolate, or if we come us chocolate, that's chocolate, negative, with a percentage of cacao very

elevated, more than 80%, is what I'd recommender. The cacao, this alimento, we've found originary also of Latin America, there we've

found much quantity of year. And, like, a racion, of some 28, 30 grams, of cacao,

we're the 300% of the necessities of the areas of the body need to be and we're

many many the fountes from the cacao, but passing also the vegetables, especially the

vegetables of the green, we have the legumbers, also we have semias,

fruit secos, all this also, also also consume, that we're that we're eating

100% a basis of the animals of origin vegetal, is that we're to make to

make those those things are rich in yerro, also with food, and the food that

because the vitamin C helps to the year to the year to the

food of the plant, that is the yearro no em. There are there are

two types of yearro emo that is exclusively in in the animals of origin animal, and the Yerro Noemo, which is the that we

find us only in the animals of origin vegetal. And to absorb it, much better, or to be able to absorb well, we, we're going to make those things that have in the yearro with the elements that have vitamin C. But what

is the naturalness is so saviour that in many occasions that we, you know, yeah has brought the pack complete. The animals, for example, like the sojas red, or the vegetal, are rich both in yearro, as in vitamin C.

So, there we have that samebiosis, that win-win, no? You, me help, I do you do,

I do with the same package of the nutrients, and yeah, that's, or for example, if we come

let's let's eat a little of chili or of pimentoo in the ensalada

and the redos is a great font of vitamin C, and yeah. If we

come we come us a confet of vegetables, we can to linear with a chorrito of lemon, and there we have the vitamin C. So, it's about to comeer

natural, eat, live, eat, eat, eat, and, the less processed possible, and there are you. And then we're in the video of the super smoothie mañenero, that Carlita Zappaena me, me showed, justly there are those ingredients, more the maca,

there, there, vitamin C, there, there's, there, no, this, this is a explosion. for going to go, for the day super energy. Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, without, uh, without, uh, without,

uh, question, but the time of the Cibo, uh, said Yobana in his video, that no,

I was, that was a, yeah, that the fiber and that was done in plantas

just that was a base of fiber. So, not I'm, I'm going to get a chica with

you, no, Yobana, because she not is your patient, but if

a girl with you and you say, you would you want to eat to eat? Or what's,

for what how do you would be? No, no, he'd not be to eat

a food. First, first, first, first, first, to know,

to do a , and do a, that, to know, what type, no,

what type of bacteria is, has done, it's has done, that's, so, that's,

so, and a time, you know, many, many times, the protocol, is

, is to antibiotic specific for that, to re-bucked the quantity of those, of those bacteria, of these sepas. And what he's

is to do it, is to keep, a level of diet, is to keep an aliment that what is what is some types of

fiber and olive elements. And, and, and there, we'd be eliminating some elements that if,

that if they're more fiber, but But, I mean, no I would continue

maintaining a alimentation 100 vegetable, but vigilance also

the consumption of the certain micronutrientes and and mirand also

the quality of the fiber, more fiber insolubly and not sollub

that is that is that can that congement. I don't recetary to

eat to eat to eat to be to sanar that

condition and And, over all, over all, to manage, no,

and equilibrium the levels of anxiety and stress, and the body, it's equilibrium,

so. And I've been talking with many some coaches of a nutritionists

or chefs or practice in the crudy veganism. And what they're saying,

is Mark, is that Jovan was in a diet very restrictive in

calories. With with what she, with what she recommended, and with

what she I've shared in their social, obviously none of us was there all the day

to be there was coming, that I'm not going to not even so these are speculations. But what

what they say specifically those crudy veganos me say, hey, no, they're going to

not not the problem the veganism or not the problem is the crudy veganism because

me say, I'm, I'm very, I'm much calories and I'm marathones and I go triathlones

and I'm I'm crud and I'm so many years and it's unjust that not

it's because that's crude and vegan is a malo. It's more a thing of restriction of calories

what they're these other bloggers and my they're but your opinion from your

without and without you don't have the data that I'm that I'm not coming, that no

I'm not there's some what is your point of the question of what is

I'm I'm want to mention it one one one one

is what is the other is the other is the other is the really, we don't

we don't we're in every one of the food to have always but

what I mean, what we can't see, or what we can't see a

food a food and was based in plants so

with a content with a much, much vegetable, not a carbohydrate or

a well, yes a part of calories, but what we see we've been

also is that she she practices a lot about a much sport, and submitte to your

body to a stress oxidative with that so, so, see, without

or be the quantity exact of what he he, no we can say

if he's coming more or less of the necessary, but could

be a a great reason or a great cause for the while also also suffered as amenorrea. Ammonorrea is

the absence of regla and this happens when the levels of the body are below of the normales

and this also is a condition very silenciated that many athletes, women, are they

say and they're not not it's something not is something of what it's but

many many athletes or chicas who practice the sport of high intensity they're having their regular their menstruation

with what are sterile I've I've done the case of the sportists paralympics

or I've known the sportists that have been rid of retidars for to be

momas and it has costed a job to get to get because

their levels of the body were very very

were and first you have to regulate the regal to make that your

cyclos menstrual are in normality and then you can you can't you can't

you recommend you simply the as far as you've talked about you have talked about you've

talked about my recommendation in these cases is it come more calories more

quantity and put more more in your in the consumption of the

gasas are essential we need we need because the from our

cellulas also are made of the other and the hormones also if not we have sufficient

grass our system hormonal also also very much very much very

but you don't you about the the the the the

or the or the or the fat of the or that's not

we're we're we're not chifel the avocado. We're we can't

we're having about we're about also of noces and someias,

any type of fruit seco. The seeds also us also us are a amount of

protein of origin vegetal at the way that those those grasses

good, the those also the also, also, also, you can

mention the seeds of chia, the semias of the tinae all of

all this are some some some I'm I'm can't

the sometimes I recommend that we're to include

that we a grand fount of omega-3. And this is what more you're going to do you're

and the things. It's always that the fishado as well is a great

source of a great because that has a negative a negative-and-

where that's the omega-3 the pesk the so that we can't

we can't include a fencing and the including more that's all-and- so that

all this that men that's all-of- men-strosion and so they're in athletes that that get in a diet carnivora and a diet

based in plant. This one way more no has no to be with being with a person vegan. No, it's not to

any of any of any that's a that's coming less of the quantity of the calories of the

that he needs and he a lot of those of those people that have an indice of

a gross corporal for the below of the normal. Yeah. Okay,

perfect. Well, one once we make this acclaration, now from the point of

of a nutritionist professional, some advice, Carlita, for the chikas that people that are preoccupied, that this

thing has confunded, something that you want to you and that you want to say, and that you want to

consider, and the same, the message that said the doctor, Mauritio, is that we have to

have to have a food plan based, a, a implementation based on plants, because this, when it's

when it's when it's well planificated, is a good and sustainable for all the life. So, so we don't know about this. But what I recommend

is informart. Informart, assessor, and to look sources of information fiable that you can have with

certainty and security of that what you're doing is correct. Not it's not it product of origin animal or

vegetal, but the equilibrium, how well structured is your diet or your alimentation.

And present attention to this is an act of care of personal, of love or of care. Two questions.

Just two questions rapid. I know, we know, two questions rapid, because me, right,

I remember the people, I've been talking, the detoxes that recommend Yovana, the people,

I don't, I don't me go to see the calories, but they're mentioning much in

radio social that were like that were, that are, like, what, What do you

of these desintoxications of 1,200 calories a day? Yeah, if you're coming, to depurate the body,

I don't recommend restringing calories, but eat super limpio. Comer quantity, eat in abundantia,

but if do it do it through those things that you helperan to clean

your igado or to clean also a little your blood, oxygenar more your

So, I don't know exactly, I've seen any of the detox of Yovana, but what you see, always that you sometas a type of these depurations, that know, or, or, or that they'll give it in form personalized, or that you can't have a,

I've done a lot of personal have done to do segments of, of, of, groups of Facebook, or that you can't a point where you can't recurrure in case of

to feel some symptom to be able to get correctly that you need to be a deputation

epitically that's not a thing I'm really a lot of much rice and much

vegetables and I'm super satisfied but it was a different you know you know

you know you're the restriction of calories so restriction of calories no and in

some moments when they have been a adjunos for example of

some or of batidos that is that is controlled and that not

for many days if one does it a level personal, but always having like a man or having a experience previous prior and a professional, and this is the most important.

And also to say that the word detox is a mal-usaduct and depuration. Because really depurar or to clean your body,

or to put a attention or give a descanso, how we do a car to do our coach because we do we

we'll have a other things, it's a well, but if with a rigor scientific or with a

basis or with an accompaniment. But when when the word detox, I'll also because

they're now in the news, not that the tumours detox, because also has

used this word of detox to whatever sumo, no, what is is pure

sugar, because it's pure sugar of manzan and pure a sum of manzana.

Here has been has been pervertido a little the word detox or depuration, not?

To do you doorms in the body to be to do you to do with what you do with to make a

little reset is good when when but we're we're going about how it's done. That's right.

And finally your opinion about the social, that obviously not are not being not done

what you are things that are things that we could not could say in television

definitely For one One side is good For other other side No, it's It depends of the point

of view that we're But know what is your opinion about all this coach of style of

life that are there are giving advice but that not are not nutritionists and medical

what is your advice to the people not to not to say anybody simply okay we're

going to we're going to how we can how can we're how can

we all these people that sometimes are very And many of the

of the conseil are good that's good. But I always you always

you're to do you want to do you want to your food always take

a man to your doctor, always consults with your doctor and always

consult a doctor or with a nutritionist specialized in this type of food

for that can can collaborate that is doing that's what I'm

So many coaches are doing good tips, good recommendations and not I want to keep the value of all the

job, but always have in the hand of the man of a professional of the health.

Much thanks, Karlita, you know a person, to Europe, that's very well

and I hope that soon as the other side of the world because here,

we're we're very. Much thank you, Marquit, a pleasure as

always and, you can contribute to this, no, to this cause and say that nothing to see a a food-a- because we're doing

all the information of the world and we have many cases, many cases, many cases of and not of success,

no, of the health, not only only only of the success, no, and superation of many

conditions medical, all to continue and to make a a little a hundred a hundred

people. Carlasaplanna. com, there can find for their programs and for coaching personal

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