El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 132 - Tu Segundo Cerebro, con Natalia Delgado y Paloma de la Fuente
Episode Date: September 14, 2020¿Sabías que tenemos dos cerebros? ¡Siiiii!, esto es algo que yo tampoco me hubiera imaginado, pero es real, y no solo eso... en este segundo cerebro habita toooooodo un ecosistema con alrededor d...e 30 trillones de habitantes diminutos que son como un ejército de soldados defendiendo a tu cuerpo de los terroristas...es decir, de las enfermedades, las infecciones y todo tipo de agresiones. ¿Tienes idea de “quién” es ese segundo cerebro? Es ni más ni menos que nuestro intestino y todos sus habitantes son bacterias buenas que forman lo que conocemos como microbiota, que es literal como un universo entero que nos ayuda a mantener sano y en equilibrio a todo nuestro cuerpo. Interesante ¿no? Para aprender más sobre todo ese ejército de “bichitos buenos”, cómo alimentarlo y cómo mantenerlo siempre fuerte, en este episodio 132 de El Podcast, tenemos dos invitadas de lujo: la Dra. Paloma de la Fuente, quien es especialista en salud intestinal y en nutrición basada en plantas y la Chef Natalia Delgado, quien es experta en cocina vegana, saludable y de-li-cio-sa.
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You've
heard of
your second
Cerebrough.
Obio
that no
I'm
refer to
the brain
right of the
right
right right
but
to what
the
people have
called to
our
system
digestive.
So,
you
say,
your
second
Cerebr,
the
Dr.
Paloma
of the
Fwente
and
the
chef
Natalia
us
have
an podcast
excellent,
because
we're
to learn
that
we're
that
directly
related
related
with
that
second
Cere
the
system
digestive. Episode 132,
we'll.
We'll.
The podcast of
Mark, Antonio
Regil is a
production of
RGL Entertainment,
and all his
rights are reserved
and I'm
and I'm
the good to
say to
Mexicoali,
Baja,
California,
a two cachanillas
beautiful,
the chef
Natalia Delgado
and the
doctora,
Paloma
of the Fent
in Mexicoali,
but separated
to care
to care.
How are
Chica?
Hello,
Mark,
very well,
very content
to be
to be
you're going to
and well,
I'm happy to
that time interesting that
we're going to come very well.
We're very well.
Doctora Paloma,
you know,
and I'm in front of
what's this
of the second
cerebral?
Because how,
how,
I'm,
I'm a second
cerebral?
What is that
the second
cerebral?
And why we're
going to
understand it?
What we're
going to
hear?
Hello,
Marquito.
Hello,
Natalia,
primarily.
Muchism
thank you.
It's very
much to be
to be here
to all
the person
that are
listening.
And, well,
this theme
of the
second
cerebral is a
thing that
is a very,
very interesting,
because
today is a
new in the
medicine
modern.
And basically,
our second
cerebral is
our system
digestive.
And why
it's the
second
cerebral?
Well,
basically,
in our
system
gastrointestinal,
about
primarily
of the
colon,
have been
many
many
bacteria that
have been
been
multiple functions in our organism,
not onlyly,
a level intestinal,
but in our health,
in general.
And when all these
bacteria,
are in equilibrium,
are capable of
the functions
fundamental for that
we're not
not sure we
don't want to
not only at
the level intestinal.
And to all this
group of microorganisms
is it as
microbiota
intestinal.
The microbiota,
which is like
what I've
I've read
and what
you
talk about
this podcast
is that
is like
a universe
entire.
Millions
and millions and
of planets
and people
that's all
a world that's
there's
and that's
we don't
we're getting
of a great
tool to
care our
health.
More now
that with
the coronavirus
we've
we've
we're all
that the
people
more vulnerable
obviously
always are
to be
those that
have
certain
certain
certain
certain
certain
and the
important
of this
is that
is that
can
can learn to prevent
those
infirmities with
this knowledge.
And the chef
Natalia,
well,
you know,
and knows
to give us
to do you
do this podcast
is that you
learn the
importance with
the doctor
Paloma,
but they can,
and what,
ah,
so,
that's,
Mark,
the fact,
the fact,
it's very
simple,
include
food,
things,
that nutran
our
flora
intestinal,
that those
bacteria
that's
that's,
the doctor,
we have
to come.
And then, what we've
to include?
Well,
are things
that surely
you're using
like the
onion and the
apple.
What's a
combination?
It's a combination.
What does it
make you
those,
the things?
But we're
going to
get to
there first.
Now,
we
didn't want to
disviar
Paloma,
but then
this macrobiota
or the
second
Cerebro
is like
an universe,
all a
life distinct,
a life
parallel
if it were
a series
of Netflix
salient
a
one of
the
in my stomach, in my intestines,
and let's tell us,
let's see,
the microbiota intestinal
basically are
microorganisms that
in form natural
abit to our
intestino.
And, all
about the microorganisms,
not only we
refer us to bacteria.
Also, there are
virus,
also there are
ongos,
and other
microorganisms.
What I've
studieded
are the
bacteria.
Because,
because if you
have seen
that's,
when they're
in the
equilibrium,
they're an
impact positive
in our
health.
And when
I mention
bacteria,
Bacterias, aha.
There are bacteria of the
Mises,
and there are the
Malas.
Justly.
Like the
like the
movie,
just there's
those good,
the bakers
good and
the bakers
badgers.
So,
we're
we're not
that we're
known as
as the
are known as
as
and bacteria
and
not so
good,
that's
that's
not so
that's
these bacteria
good
probioticas
are the
are the
people
different
functions
at
the
individual
for
that
a health intestinal
optimal,
but also
also in general,
because I've
been related to
multiple studies
that our
microbiota
intestinal has
has been
relation with
other
other
other than
other
things.
And,
a fact,
a data very,
very
interesting,
is that the
80%
of our
system
immunological
is in
our
intestino.
So,
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
that's,
so,
that's,
I'm,
I'm going to disminuilies
that I'm
the case
right it's
the coronavirus
but the virus
that's
I'm disminuer
my possibilities
so my
system immunological
has to be
the most
force and the
most musculos
possible
and the
actually
that 80%
that's
many
functions
that we
maintain to
us
that we're
generally
to
actually
to talk
to
talk of
our
intestine
we're
we're
we're
about
approximately
an
85%
of bacteria probioticas,
that are the good
and a 15% of
bacteria patogenas,
that are the malas.
When there's
an disequilibriot
in these
percentages,
is when
they're
to present to
certain symptoms,
intestinales
or some other
problems of
health.
The microbiota
intestinal
can't with
much
many times,
like
right that
mentioned about
the system
immunological,
is seen
that the
bacterias
are able
to activate
are
certain
reactions
immunologic
in all the
body,
they're
active to
the cells
defensory
of our
organism,
we're
also
to do the
synthesis
of
vitamins,
us do you
need to
even to
some bacteria
that are
malas
for our
organism,
and they
in inven,
and so
there's
not a
infection
infectious
also,
and
they're
also,
very,
very important
because if
we're
we're
trying to
keep
our
system
immunological,
we have
been
to be
nutrient is a
level
cellular.
And just
the microbiota
intestinal is
capable of
to do this
functions.
It's totally
an ecosystem
if we're
a comparison
in the
piece and
we'd
to put us
to all
that this
microbiota
intestinal,
we'd
we'd
approximately
of 1.5
to 2 kilos
of pure
microorganisms,
while
the cerebral
has a
person,
the Cerebron
2
grams.
So,
in our
Our organism, at least two kilos, are of pure microorganisms.
Wow.
I was saying, we're more of 30 trillion.
30 trillions.
30 trillions of microorganisms.
Of course, we have more microorganisms than cells.
For every cellular in our body, we have approximately
of 10 to 12 microorganisms.
So we're more microorganisms than cells.
It's really interesting.
It's a very interesting. It's a universe, a micro-universe,
that if
not we
understand us
and if
not we
we're in
pastillating us
in the emergencies
or captating
or captaining
that we're
we need to
get us
simply or
we can't
disminuir the
possibility
to be
to be
the part
of the medical
yendonel
so there's
there's
there are
there
there are
because we're
we're
we're not
those organisms
and those
They're attacking and those that are
attacking and those that are
depending
of what I'm,
I can't start
to give,
say,
more arms
to those who
me defend or more
arms to those
that are you
can be able to
be autosaboteing
and giving
this,
arms to the
terrorists
that want
to destroy my
my body
there into.
Yes,
so is,
Mark.
And many
people suffer
of malagestine,
of inflammation.
Are the
first signals
that
are giving
the intestino, when
is out of balance,
and as the doctor,
there's always
help you know,
and how we're going
to help with
with the animals
that are the
bacteria good.
So,
to the bakers
good.
And,
so are very
very simple.
It's an
economic.
Marco,
Doctor,
accessible that
in our
kitchen,
as I'm
the
same.
The onion,
the
I'm
the
same,
the
the base of
the
fiber,
that contain
the
sparrows,
that is an example,
they're going to
because they're
to fermenting
in the intestine,
and thanks to
that fermentation,
it's going to
take to this
food that
is going to
be very well
and they're
very content.
Something that
also we
include our
diet,
we have to
have to be
all the integral,
all the
animals
integral,
the arros
integral.
If we
do that
the consumption
of the
brown
black,
we can
we can be
easily
for
the
what
me
is that
my
intestine my intestine is
so much.
And there are
food and
things that
debilita
my intestine
and my
intestine so
the
macrobota
is not
my favor
and it's
more easy
that's more
that's more
that's what
the intestine.
So,
basically
the
the intestine
is able
debilited
for
multiple factors
but the
principal
are a
style of
not
a good
a mal
alimentation
the
consumption
chronic
of
medications
of
substances
toxic as alcohol,
like tobacco,
and already
mentioning the
medications,
the use
chronic of antibiotics.
Of course,
right,
that the chef
Natalia,
us mentioned about
about the
consumer of
fiber,
it's important
here to
clear two
concepts
important,
that is the
concept of
probiotics and
of prebiotic.
Normally,
when we
hear we're
not we're
related the
supplementation,
with the
sublimatical,
but no,
the probiotics,
basically
are the
bacteria
good,
vivas,
that us
help
to
make to
our
health
intestinal.
These
bacteria
we can
consume
if we're
a supplement
of a
probioticos
or
also
of
food
food
or
other
other
animals
as
mentioned
basically
is the
the
thing
of the
probiotic
the
prebiotico
is
the fiber
the
the
animal
the
thing
the
fiber.
We're not
we're able to
digerial
in their
totality.
Who are
they're
doing to
this process
are the
bacteria.
So,
to include
the
food,
that they
have
food, obviously
we're
to maintain
vivas
to these
bacterias
that are
good,
they're
to
do you,
the functions
that they
are
not to
manage,
and our
digestion
is excellent.
For that
is very
important
always include
fiber in
our
alimentation,
and where
we're
going to
find
fiber in
in
the
animals of
origin
vegetable.
The
the
meat,
the
meat,
the
food,
the
food,
it's
that
is,
it's
related
that
the
consumption
excessive
of
embutied
and
lactis
augmenting
in
quantity
the
number
of
pathogens
that
are
the
bacteria
that
are
that
can be
a
problem
let's
a
little
let's
we're
also
there's
there
your intestine and
be in a
maximum, in
a piece
ideal, or
if when I have
an intestine
a little and
un-
kind of a
little bit more
to be a
little pause-to
and we're going to
go to
the doctora
Paloma of
the Fenty and
the Chetalya
Delgado.
Here in the
podcast,
see them
on us.
And to
learn more
of this
theme, we
have a
master class
gratuit,
that I
recommend,
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What history
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talking.
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to learn to
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what is what
is what is
what you
can't
you're doing
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And
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in
the
Natalia Delgado and the Dr. Paloma of the Fwente,
chef and doctora, from Mexicali,
or are you, you know,
are you guys in Mexico?
No, no,
in the event of the Bienfest,
there we know, and we knew us
and we're just that we're going to be in Chicago.
No, man, you'll imagine.
Marcos, very, very felicit.
Two cachanillas.
Yes, two cachianillas.
Yes, I was in California.
I'm from California.
I'm from, exactly.
Well,
Arrive the north of Mexico.
Well,
Volvying to the
time.
Right,
that you're
to talk about
to the fiber,
before we're
to go to the
pause and
you know,
about the
much that
it's not
that's what
was what I
was what I
was the
result of a
human
no is
a
investigation
and proof
scientific.
Simply
I'm
I'm
I'm
my experience
personal.
I
I'm
I'm
talked about
in the
podcast, I
had been
gastritis,
esophitis,
and colitis
and colitis
of a
level number three. And my gastroenterologist
was it, before I was a lot of years
before me said, was what he said. It's that me said, no,
you know, it's almost fiber. You're eating,
you're having one of these, the famous diets
type Atkins, no? And South Beach, no,
that now, they're, they're doing the keto and,
to those derivatives of those diets that
that they said, come much protein
animal, no, without grass. And, um, and it
basically, it was, it was, if I mean, it's a
bit of vegetables and other things, but it was very
and a little
and I was super
infirm and when
adopted the
diet based
in plants when
me is vegan
no I'm
doing for my
health,
I did for a
question of
compassion with
the animals
but immediately
it's me
in the gastritis
and it was
in the esophagitis
and it's
me, it's
me fell in
the doctor,
that I'm not
about the
pastias antacidas
I could
and I'm
and he said
I'm saying
you know
I said a
he said
I said I'm
I said I'm
you're saying
I said a
is what you're
doing
So, from the point of
of view of medical, because apart
the colitis, the esophagitis,
and right I want to
that we'll be able to obesity,
that all this is related,
why me helped me help the fiber?
And why he could help the fiber
to eat food of origin vegetal
to the people that have
these diseases?
Yeah, for example,
the colitis,
his own name term,
it is signify inflammation.
So,
you had problems at the level
of colon,
of inflammation,
and this is relation a
directly with a
disequilibre in the
microbiota
intestinal.
You consummias
for what you
mentioned as
your dietas
anteriors,
consume you
animals of
an animal
excessively.
Much.
It's a
herbivorito
like those
pica
pietra,
like the
windstones
like
this.
Well,
this is
related to
that the
number of
the number of
the
number of
badterias
intestinor.
When the
bacteria
are the
question in
equilibrium,
it's
symbiosis intestinal.
So, the dysbiosis intestinal
causes all of these
problems of inflammation
at the level intestinal.
Also,
it causes strainiment
chronic,
diarrhea chronic,
syndrome of intestine
irritable.
All this has
related to
the disintegrate
intestinal.
And something
that I would
like to talk
too,
I'm trying,
too,
you mentioned
that you
you'd
that you consummied
many
many different
of
origin animal,
is that
right that
I'm
about the
consumption chronic
of antibiotics,
is there
is to
remember that
much of the
industry,
of the
the car,
of the lactos,
to the
animals,
they're injected
many,
so,
so this
also this
also is
related to
a
misalibre
in the
microbiote
intestinal.
The
industry of
the
lighties
not used
without
because,
because they
they're
they're
they're,
they're
they're
they're
like
to be
that's
infirm.
Asimbing, as in asinamient,
all together,
convivine with
their material fecal,
if one's
infirm,
if one's,
they can't
injects,
macrodosis,
of antibiotics for
that they're
and finally,
who's
coming,
those macrodosis
is the
human.
So,
here,
also,
there's a
problematica
important,
because,
the fact,
the
consumer chronic
antibiotic,
can generate
resistance to
the
resistance to
the
is when
you know,
those
bacteria
pathogenes
of your
body,
not respondent
to the
medication.
So it's
very important
to beigilant
also
factors.
There's a
new new
series in
Netflix that
is a
story 101
and one
and they
dedicate
an episode
I've
I've
every
every
every
episode
every
episode is
shortitut.
It was
a
circumstance
that's
a
super recommend to
those
that's
one of the
of the
things that
that's in the
episode of
the
food of the
rapid
just to the
thing of the
antibiotics.
Or I don't
recall if
is a
chapter
specific of the
antibiotics, but
what they
say they're
the
the medical and
the
statistics
that are
there is
the
next
pandemias
no,
I say the
coronavirus
we're
going to
get to
the
coronavirus
because the
real
problem
is
that
the
other
that have
that
have developed a
resistance
to the
antibiotics and
they
are just
what
what you
you're saying,
too,
paloma,
that the
animals are
pegated
for hundreds
of millions,
are just
just going to
and the
only way that
they're in
the only way
to get them
and they're
in their
kind of this
kind of
these
so that's
these
new things,
they're
doing a
really a
resistance
to the
anti-biotics.
So,
it's
it's highly
probably
that we
we're
to get to
the problems
that there
before
years where
there's
not exist
in the
anti-biotics
and
it'd
had a
a disease and
arrazzable
with millions of
humans of
in the world
because no
there are antibiotics
so right
although there
anti-biotics
the
resistance
that resisten
so they're
so you can't
you can't
you can't
control with
nothing
and so
that is
is going to
be a
attribute
just to
the enormous
quantity of
antibiotics
that receive
the
canada
the
the poeos
those
the
the pieces
even
that is
that is the
other
great
a
big
the
resistance
to the
anti-biotic
yes,
you have
contemplated
for that in
a future
the principal
problem of
the world
the resistance to
the antibiotics.
One,
for the
bad use of
the
most of the
most
we're
that we're
many people,
that the
animals,
we're muchissimos
in their
body.
We're going
to bring
with Natalia
and right
we're
going to
get to the
gastrititis
and the
Zofiatis
and
yeah
that we
see we
we've seen
for the
antibiotics
So I want to go with Natalia.
We're saying the doctora
that the theme is probioticos,
no?
That is evitantibioticos
and,
um,
to,
um,
to,
what are the,
the conseils that you
do you give to do
a person that
says,
okay,
I have to
give to
give to my
food or
things or things
that I can
prepare to
to start to
start to do
these changes
yeah and
that's a
experience,
that's an experience
delicious.
Sure.
Well,
let's start,
Mark,
and Dr.
with eliminate the
food chatara.
The food chatara
or the
food rapid or
the food processed
have to eliminate
the diet
because it's
the that we
cause many
problems,
for what we
we're talking
also.
Also, other
factor important
are the
are the sugars
refined.
The acucers
refinados
that for the
food.
Much of people
are being
liquid,
jugs,
teas, infusions,
that have
altas
quantities of
sugars
refined,
sugar that no
is good
for us,
that is
a good,
that is
not a
problem,
we're going
to create
problems
at the
intestinal
as we
are
we're
the ingest
of antibiotics.
The doctor
does it
does
put to
this,
that a
a lot
people,
we're
using
the antibiotics
for
quite
something.
So, we'll just move to this.
And the stress, Mark,
to, back again,
the levels of stress
us will help with our
health intestinal.
As I commented,
the doctor,
we can consume probioticos.
These probioticos
are 100%
vegetal,
it's,
because it's important
the doctora and
we were talking
to learn
that it's a
100%
vegetal,
because even
it can't
include the
probiotics
origin animal,
products
derived of
origin
animal.
then just,
not just
we're sure
that we're
to origin
vegetal.
The probiotics
are the
unalcancet.
They're
very much
food we're
to make sure
but for
to start
we're going
to get the
food
integrals.
The avena
that I see
that you're
two are
pans of
the avena
that is
marvellous
that the
fiber of
the avena
us will
do you
do that
the lineasa
also
all the
flowers
redes
spinacas
the
keel
all the
little the
reds
the color
of the
are the most
nutritive
those that
most
contain fiber
and the
most
that's
the
other
the
time
the
whole
the
fibras
all
those
fibro
are
those
those
are
to
and
our
bacteria
that
we
have
in our
intestines
now
now
one
something
I
I
know
I
I
have
heard
I
I
know
the
Tulum
Fes
Fes
that
always
very good
invited
I
have
conferences that resuennan
much with me
because they're
the medical or
the nutrition
says if you
come you come
a chatara
so say vegana
if you're
a gordyvegano
this frit
vegano chatari
vegano
in general
because if it's
less than
than that other
but still
eating
chatrress
so not is
not it's like
the
lastimal the animals
bravo
a plos
enormous
perfecto
you do you
do you
but also
the theme is
to help you
so those
are so are
so some
those are
some time
in a while. If you're
someone who comes chatara,
it's,
your body
will be to
pay more
chatarra.
If you
are eating
many fruits and
your body
to make more
fruit and
you know
that's a
make you
feel like
I'm saying
like I'm
like I'm
eating hambhats
veganas
veganas
and I'm
I'm
I'm up
my person
and apart
my body
is the
only that
I'm
already I'm
I've been
I've been
exactly
I'm
eight
quillito
about
I'm not here,
I'm eating
very sanely
my body
my body
me pere
the saladas
because I've
been eating
basically
many many
my
my body
me let's
these
salads with
with the
with the
same
with the
hamburgas
when I'm
eating hamburs
and burritos
and tacos
and right
for example
no me
it's not
so I'm
so I'm
so I'm
so I've
heard and
what I've
seen you can
you can't
help you
to turn
to your
body,
so they
want to
things
different,
depending on
of what you
are you
doing to the
question,
and for what's
this, doctor?
So,
is, Markito.
The
actual,
who are
people who are
more than salas,
more fruit,
more verdur,
are your
those bacteria
good.
The fact,
it has
related that
even the
anxiety that
we're not
for
to eat,
it's
food,
food,
it's because
we're
a number
of bacteria
patogenas
or
bacterias
that they
just
more
more
more
in our
intestino.
So if you
do you
give you
do you
do you
do you
have to do
that you're
to make you
do you're
your body
you're going to
be asking
and are your
bacteria
those that
are those
those
are those
those
are there
are
that are
other
that are
sometimes
more chatar
coma
those
those
bacteria
can
and
they're
just exactly
and
justam
exactly
is the
relationship
that
we're
that
we're
we're
we
we're
that
That is the
equilibrium of
bacteria,
of bacterias
probiotics,
good,
that they like
the fiber,
that they
like the fruit,
the verdures,
and bi-
bacteria that
not,
that they're
going to
eat a
other type of
food.
Natalia,
and we
just right
for the
last segment
of the
obesity,
that's
important-
but
I think
that we're
in the
food,
Natalia,
we
just in
some little
in this
segment.
And I
want to
you know
that you
that's
that's
because
so the
so the
the
thing
the
is temporal
no?
How
we're going to include
Alimentos integral.
I always
I always say
what ingredients
contain your
food?
Well, if we
we're
the world,
the sparrago
that contains,
sparras,
not?
Sparagos.
Those are
ingredients
integrals,
that not
have been processed
that you
not more
in your
house,
the
cosines,
because
if you
have to
do
the
many
of the
things
to be
able
to
our
system
digestive.
those that
can't
to get
to get
the fiber
that is the
that is the
that is the
that is the
we're going to
we're doing
in this
day that
the fact
is something
but
we have to
have been
being
conscientient
to be
being
to be
that we
have
we're
we're
a
good
to make
a
more
so how
can't
do you
do
so how can't
include
the
The chile is a marvellous, a semilita
a margium, a semittia, too.
And Mark, also can't do
fermentos.
No, they're to be chefs
or cociners professionals
for doing a fermento in
house.
Surely you've been
heard of the chukrut
and for the people
that are listening
nothing more,
I'm showing a frasco
of crystal with
repoll or coal
that's fermenteded.
The fermentation
is a way natural.
It's a maradilla.
just we just we just a temperature
ambient a product
like this,
that is the coal,
with a little
of salt and
water, and in three
days,
will start the process
of fermentation.
And those are
the probioticos
that are
to our flora,
our bacteria
good,
that are avidas
to eat,
so we're
to do an
food,
and this is the
food of
our flora
intestinal.
So,
so that I
have to
buy pastillas
of probiotics
necessarily
those I
can
to buy,
and
assure me
that
are of
the origin
100
vegetable,
no?
Yes.
A market
a very
very
known that
is of
a origin
animal in
Mexico,
for the
name is
a yacult,
no,
that are
these
bottleettes
that's
that's
that's
it's of the,
it's pure
sugar.
And,
in fact,
not I
don't me
to make
to make
to make,
many,
much
many times
they're
nottes
like the
yogurt,
we're
they're
not used
on old
that's, in
the
moment, in the
so,
the bacteria
good are
and the
only that
is the lactose.
So,
no,
no, no,
no,
if they're in
a lotto,
they're in
a lotto, they're
to have
to be
to make a
temperature
altissimas,
and there is
where it
is where
it's the
good,
what good
that would have,
to have,
this,
that's not
the point
of probiotics
that we're
we're just,
we're
or pastillas
100
vegetal,
that the
capsule
is a
particular,
because that
the
gelatina
of that
capsules is of
the wosos
of the
whole.
So that
has to
say a capsule
vegetable or
better
even.
So what's
what?
So what
other
other thing?
What other
other thing?
I'm,
you're
talking and
being,
you're
saying, Natalia,
the
repolle
no me
enter,
no me
doesn't,
I'm
I'm
the tepache.
The tepach
this
beverage,
this is
marvellousousa,
that's a
base of the
skin,
the pi
that's
also
we're doing is no
desperdicying nothing. Zero
in the kitchen. No, we're
the peel of the piya and we
do we do with a bit of fermented
full of probioticos. We're going to
put a little of piña, that's the
skin, a little of pyloncillo,
that is a sugar that not is refined.
We're going to put a little
a little bit of canela
and clavo in a frasco.
In a frasco like this,
very limpio.
A frasco of crystal, yes.
A frasco of crystal,
justly with tap hermetic,
we put water and we
do we have to temperature
ambient for three days.
And in three days
we'll have a
beautiful,
full of probioticos
that we're going to
be able to be the
result.
I really,
so I'll guarantee
that what you
take a sorbite
of this
tapache,
they're going to
be very
very well.
And I'm
a barrage
with the
people, the
people is emborrache
no?
No, that's
a process
more
long.
The fermentation can
can get to
be an alcoholic
but that's
very,
very tardable
a lot of
many years
to get a
vinegar
that's in
fermentation
alcohol,
vinegar.
That's
three days
and in three
days,
all the
microbes
that have
the
bacteria
that has
the
the
the
skin of the
panning
naturally
and then
they're
to
let's
your tepache
you're
going to
let's
the recipe
in
my
reds
chef Natalia
Delg
for
that you
do
they do
to
pass
a
pass
and they're in the
maravits
to consume
food food
fermenteded.
Well,
no,
you're just
here we're
on the
podcast,
no,
for,
yeah,
it's,
it's,
it's very interesting.
Let's be,
rapidly,
let's,
let me,
let me,
let me,
let me,
there's,
there's a
different
there's an
different from a
person who
can't come
in salas,
the thing
more than
an salad,
someone who
can't do
make,
someone
that's
some little
letchugas,
a rebanaditas
of tomato and
and the tomato and
is what is that
that's a
very difficult
at a
time in the
restaurants that
they're not
they're not
a lot of
a thing that's
a thing that
they're not
a thing you
and they're
and like matures
and like
d'nithuas
a saladas
a insaladas
a saladas
a salad
can be a
a
a food
completely
and delicious
a salad
a ensalada
a delicious
like
a meal
yeah so
we're
we're
no
doctor.
Yeah, me
yeah no
an
encelada,
a smallada,
like you
a mark
complete,
they have
certain characteristics
like the
base,
the ojas,
no,
ojas,
of preferences
between
more red,
more obscure,
more nutritive
are,
then it's
letchuga,
arugula,
espinacas,
kale,
a good
base
of lechuga,
of col,
inclusive,
they can
also,
can come
also,
can come
also,
And then we'll include
legumes.
Recurred that
the legumbres
and the
semillas are
the protein
vegetal.
Of that we
going to
eat in this
ensalada.
That's going
to be our
protein,
what we're
going to
give us
the frihol,
the garbanzos,
the lentegas,
and semittittas,
semillas
that not
are costosas
because
a lot
that's,
lamentably,
the video
no is
the India,
almendras
that are
super-costosos
not is necessary
that gastes
or that we
have our
our bols
we can't
include semillas
like the honjoli
that is
marvellous
economical,
the cereals
also are
very economical
the linazas
is accessible
the chia is
accessible and
we have to
include in
our ensalada
a base
of the
leaves
and a
little of
texture
and include
more fiber
all the
vegetables
that's
other
something
are very interesting
are
fruit
we
can
to add a
time.
The fring for the
fring for the
fraser,
the mango
that's
a temporary
now,
sandia,
because no.
And the
vinegretta,
very important,
that no
they use,
it's a
fatosos,
of grass
saturated,
it has
to be a
migerer
and to
maintain it
that's
important.
If you
want to
use the
oil,
a
little
quantity,
that is
marvellous
the
idea of
little
quantities,
one
a cup,
a
of lemon,
pinnagre
of mannana
with the
mother,
that also
will help
to help
to get a
different
to get
to get
ingredients,
we're
to give
to give to
the
sour to
the salad,
right?
Like the
this melosid
that the
does the
oil or
we can
exclude the
the
only to
put a
wine,
put a
vinegar,
very
condimented
sal,
pat,
ryan,
ral,
a
little of
a
lot of
some
there's
there's
there
infinity
of
salads.
It's
is
the mind to
understand
that's an
salad,
because you're
when the salad,
the penises can't have
omegas, no, what is what they're,
is that you need of the pescad of the mugs,
three, six, nine. No, the semillas,
you can't do you give the omegas,
that's an amount of protein,
but the cerebrose, you're thinking, in the seeds,
and it's thinking
in fruits,
So, in aquacete, in mango, in sandia,
this, yeah, is other thing that salad.
Yeah, it's an salad that you're going to
feel super-satisfichael.
Who has eaten,
or frioles, that has felt satisfied?
Nobody, no exists.
It's like re-chamviar the history
that you tell us in your mind
about what is an salad.
And to understand that,
you can't be a food
complete-ism.
I know, the only thing,
is that,
as much,
ensaladas,
come, more a delgasso.
It's automatic.
even if in the morning or in the
afternoon or in the afternoon
or in the time,
and what I'm saying
is a super-ensalada,
I mean,
at the other day
I'm feeling incredibly
well.
Amazes is nigero,
no?
With much energy.
And other ingredient
that also
we can include
are the germinators
that are you
are those germinators
that also
we can't do
and make remodeling
the lentee
eight hours
to collarla
and the
naturalness
is going to
be to
carry and
is germinar
this semilita
that was
super-nutritiva
the lenteja
Yeah, it was nutritive.
Now they're alive.
So,
all that marvellia,
all those enzymes,
the protein,
that fiber that
will help
is better even.
And we can
do it in
house.
We don't have
to get that
money extra.
We can do
our own
our own
and just
the food
that you're
to mentionar
is an
animal for the
bacterias
probioticas.
It's fiber.
So,
all that
all this
all this
barteritos
good,
the barteritos
the barquets,
defending,
this,
you serve for
your health.
Well,
we're going to
go to the
pause.
We're going to
talk in the
last time of
this of your
second cerebral,
your second
cerebral,
that's in,
in the
into you, are in
your intestines,
how you
it affect to
to do that
the
question,
if you want to
you want to
do that
or get to
get to
but there's
not more
with a
little bit,
what are
what are the
things that we
have to
say,
the law,
the lay,
okay?
, we'll
let me
a pause.
I'm here
in the mountains
of Cedona,
Arizona, in
where I see
the maradillas
infinites of
our universe.
And so is your
mind, and
so is your
life, and
so are your
possibilities,
a less
that the
ideas in your
mind, that
the history
that you're
telling,
you're limiting.
For that,
I'm
want to
invite you
from this
place so
one of my
two of my
other
favorite
in the
planet,
to get
to our
life,
that's
discover
if you
is your
friend or is your
enemy?
What history
you are
that you are
that you can
change that
that you
can't make
that's the
first that's
the path
one, for you
can't have the
health financial,
of your
health financial,
of your
health spiritual,
of the creation
of your own
your own
your own
so you,
make click
here in this
league and
then to the
class,
registrates
is completely
gratis
and it
can't
take
today.
Discover if
if your
mind is
your
friend is your
enemy, what story
you're telling?
I'm going.
We're going.
We're going to the
rest of final
of this episode,
your second
Cerever,
with the chef
Natalia Delgado and
the doctora
Paloma
of the Fenty,
ambas
Cachanilla,
and I'm
near the
Cerro of
the Centinela.
I'm
I'm just
Austin,
Texas.
Chicas,
what he
really a
lot of people,
the famous
overpeas,
because from
the time it
because it's
the time
the end of
the end
the,
this is a
problem
recent.
I know
that if you
nasiste,
the 60
to the 70
or the 70
or the 80
to the
90 to
you think
it's a
whole the
life,
but this
of the
obesity,
the number of the
people of
in the planet,
this has
been so
before.
Before the
the problem
was the
problem was the
ambruna
and
right.
And right,
the
people,
and then
Paloma,
what is
the relation
of this
second
Cerebrough
and the
obesity
and the
subiro
to be
the
Markito, look,
the
actually,
what more
is the
microbiote
intestinal is
that relation
that exists
with the
overpeas
and with the
obesity.
We're
we're in
our colon
many
groups of
bacteria,
many bacteria,
but there
are two
groups that
abunded
more in
our colon,
they're
the name
of firm
and bacteroidates.
In the
column,
we have
approximately
60% of
more firm
cutes.
The rest
is of
bacteriotes
and other
bacteria.
So,
so it has
seen that
people
with obesity
and overpeas
have a
disequilibri
in this
relation
of firmicutes
bacteroidates.
No,
it's not
that one
is a
bad or one
is a
well,
simply
there's
a
disequilibrio
in these
bacteria.
Of
actually,
they've
studied to
people
that are
people who
have been
there
there
an article
very
interesting
in
where it
was
a
group of
people
who
are
that
So, it's
an study
of microbiota
intestinal.
It was
that they'd
an amount
significantative
of firmicutes
in their
microbiota
intestinal.
It was
a plan
of the
plan to
a plan
high in fiber
and at
terminated
this protocol
alimentisio
so he
did it
was a
analysis
of your
microbiota
intestinal
and yeah
with various
kilos
disminuited.
So the
surprise
was that
this number
of bacteroidates
that
was very
elevated,
disminuio.
Pardon,
of Firmicutes.
Firmicutes
was very
elevated, then
it's
diminished, and
the number of
bacteriottes
augmented.
So,
it's seen
that in
people
delgated or
that they
have been
a
person a
healthy,
that's
a good
that's
in equilibrium.
So,
at a
certain
point,
it has
done,
as a
function of
protection
to the
obesity or
the
over-
person,
all the
bacteria are important, but if you have
seen that when there's a
disequilberer in these two groups,
the people usually
are over-pessor. And not
only it's studied in persons
adult, also in children.
Here, this is something
very, very important, because
the microbiota intestinal is basically
like our waya microbiana.
And because a way, I'm referring,
for example, the way digital.
The microbiota
intestinal is to
define from the moment
in the time we're
we're nacemos.
Why?
At the moment of the
nascimento,
at past
by the canal
of the
canal of
there is
the first
in the
the baby has
contact with
microorganisms.
These
these microorganisms
that are
in a
level vaginal,
like for
example,
the lactobacilus,
is a
microbiota normal
of that area,
but are
bacteria good for the
intestino
of the
the best
so they have
done
in where they
compared to babies
that have
been born
has been born
part of normal,
part of vaginal
and it's been
that the
children have
been born
vial,
have a major
number of
bacteriotidates
at the
level intestinal
a difference
of who
are the
people who are
I mentioned
to a certain
point,
it has
seen that
this group
of bacteria
has
a certain
protection
to the
obesity and
the
overpeas.
And other
point
important
also
is the
lactancy
materna. For example, the
children that receive
the food of the leachematerna,
in that leachian maternity, there are
millions of microorganisms
that are beneficial for our
system, for our microbiota
intestinal. So, since we're
babies, if we receive a lactancy
materna, if we've got to
a part of via vaginal,
we're just defining our
microbiota intestinal. So,
this information really is very
interesting, because
also
it's
seen
that the
children
that
the cancer
maternal
are less
propensors
to be
to be
diseases
and
those
and they're
that's
the rest of our life,
including the
of the medicine modern,
although there's
a new tendency
that is to
regress to
the origines,
of this
we're talking,
to the lactance,
to the part of
natural,
there's a new
tendency, but
the tendency
during decades in
that's the
most part of
the people.
There's a
book,
no,
that's a
book, no,
where the
business of,
where the
hospitales
it's,
it's come
more than,
the new
needs the
first thing
and that
the formula
of inmediate,
because
is the
thing,
Menos, that have
medics,
that have this tendency
natural,
that they're
a,
a education,
and literally
principles that
are you're
making the
not only only
what the
laboratories and the
industry of
the medicine,
you know,
but really
do what is
more for the
people,
you're going to
do that
you're going to
make a cesare
and that
you give
a formula
to the
little, and
just that
we're doing
more semials
for the
obesity
infantil
and for
other
problems.
I'm a
new
of cesaria
and the
formula.
I'm sorry
obviously.
Obviously
there are
situations
extraordinary
very specific
that the
baby has
been to
be a
but
but
the ideal
is that
is that
is that
you
you can
you think
you think
that's
the
the
fall
of the
the
question
because
does
make
the
thing
that's the scientifics that invented those antibiotics, no?
Obviously, probably we're going to be dead
if not exist were the antibiotics.
No, we're not here.
But the antibiotic, when it's abuser,
the reason for that it was for the genera was for sure,
was that the 70%,
is something like the 70% of the antibiotics that's produced in the world,
not are to salvage the life to the people,
are to give to the ganado,
to the guillas, to the porcos, to the animals,
to create those in these situations
that are completely distinct as
the distance amount that we're
have been to the humans
that we have to the coronavirus.
So, it's for that if,
if not they're in that quantity of antibiotics,
the animals,
not would be,
to get to the matadero.
So the problem
not is the antibiotic.
The antivotic is a bendicion
of the science.
An advance of scientific,
incredible.
I,
I see,
I have an infection,
I have a problem,
but,
but for suppose,
that me tom an antibiotic.
For sure.
And I do
thanks to the doctor and to
God,
but when the
abuso,
the use of the
antibiotic without
the insuriation,
that is the same
that's the
good,
at a more,
I'm not
not would be
a lot of
the same,
I'm not
my case,
in the
of you're
the other of
you're necessary,
but when it's
a solution to
a problem,
but it
is the
fault of a
nonciences,
that's the
no,
so no,
if it's
exploit,
something,
it's,
we're doing,
we're doing,
we're doing
anti-biotics
of a
way
inconsientient,
not we don't we don't
know
the carne or the
packet of the
content of the
anti-biotics,
no,
no,
it's the industry
no no,
it's not
the consumer
of hormones,
not,
that has much
a lot of
exactly.
Exactly.
The hormones
for that
for that are,
so,
if all this
we're doing
a way
inconsient,
not is that
not we're
not being
not getting
into the
industry,
is that
we're not
we're doing
not we're
not we're
we're
there are pretexts in this
time.
All we can
investigate.
It's a question
of introduce
some words in
our cellular,
and the internet
us will give
all the
fact of what
the answer of what
is going to
do we're doing
to eliminate
of our
diet,
all the
protein that
is animal,
although,
the packet
this animal
has been
grass fed,
no?
Also,
to this animal
I'm sure
that they
did,
they took
to have
submitted
has submitted antibiotics and other
things more.
So,
a manner very
simple to
to see a
life, I
more
felon, is
consuming
ingredients that
us does the
the earth,
ingredients that
are interiors,
that no
have to
do you have to
do things,
that are
not that
the processos
of production
also we
are in
favor of
them,
for
the
we're in
the
production,
but when
it's
in a
refinement,
when it's excessive, this
animal, that yet is avina,
that yet is trigo,
what we're eating,
the indusque,
it processes,
and it processes,
and it's nothing.
We're eating ingredients
or products
vacuos,
that just are
more than perjudicating
our health.
How can we avoid
it,
taking the health
in our hands,
being responsible
how,
all the days,
for example,
in the theme
that we're talking
today,
I'm going to
consume fiber.
Now, we know that the fiber
It's been in the vegetables
and in the cereals
integrals and we're
more than we're more
felices,
comying products
fermentas,
that also in the market
are in the market
are you, for example,
the miso,
the pasta mizo,
we can't
have got us a topita
miso,
we can consume
also ascentunas,
the peppinillos
also,
are probioticos,
all those animals
that are there
out of,
for example,
the Tempe,
the kites,
Chi, that also
we can't
find out.
But if we
do we're doing
in the
house,
we're going to
get into the
ingredients
fermentated,
that are
to give a
life and they're
to be the
human more
more felices,
more conscientious,
and responsible
I think I'm
I'm,
our second
cerebral,
that is just
that macroviota,
or microbiote,
or microbiote.
Microorganism.
Microbiota.
Microbiota.
But,
so,
the macrobota
no exists.
is microbiota. Microbiota intestinal,
so is.
Microbiota, is the
the word correct.
Well,
the repas
a three times
more and you can
go to go
to comment with
education.
The good
news in all this,
I know that
people can't
think,
oh,
maybe I consume
many medications,
I'm problems
of strainimient,
no I've
never done
a style of
life
a good
I'm a
disbiosis
intestinal,
I'm
a disequilibry,
what I'm
a good
The first of the newtice is that the microbiota intestinal, if you
give you a lot of good quality, in a lapse of 10 days,
it can't be able to better radically the
health intestinal and then will be in equilibrium our
microbiota.
So, number one, and as we've been
commenting, since we've started this, this, this,
this a platic is to augment all the
days the consumption of fruit, of
vegetables, cereals, integrals, legumbers,
nuses, and semillas.
But this is of all the days.
All these groups of
animals have fiber.
And remember
that the fiber is the
animal favorite
of the bacteria
good,
of those that
they're going to
defend.
For other
other side,
we need to
eliminate in
their totality,
embutied,
meat roger,
and lacteos.
These animals
are in quantity
the number of
bacteria
pathogenas
that can
cause in a
infirmate
in our
intestine.
Something
also is
to be
to be
to be
to live
to 9 hours.
It's related to
people that
are given
that are
more
indice of
disease of
obesity and
overpeas.
So this
will causeion
obviously
desequilibrary
our microbiota
intestinal and
also
will debilitar
to our
system
immunological.
To do
exercise.
The
exercise
does
make active
us,
we
help
to liberate
endorphinas
that
are
substances
that are
to
help us
and so
the
levels of
stress and anxiety,
they're going to
disminuil.
The stress is
a
problem
silenciosa,
that a
reason of
that's
a problem
that's
end up in
other
other
other
things.
So it's
important
that I
always
I'm
that I'm
my work
and because
I know
that many
people
that it
does
it's the
practice
of the
meditation and
the yoga.
What we
need to
do we need
to have
is to
get levels of
the
most
possible
to
listen to
to
learn
to
learn to
manage those
levels of stress.
Because,
as I
like it
does it
debilita
our microbiota
intestinal
and to our
system
immunological.
So,
so the
stress,
dormer
mal,
eat,
eat,
eat,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
my,
my second
Cerebr.
Counsel,
finales,
Natalia,
to
despondy
because
you're
going to
feel
when they're
to
start their
their
own
their own
little
in
house.
It's
very
simple,
it's
good,
health, deliciousos,
following a rich
recipe, and
you're going to
be responsible
of your own
their own
not to get
something in
the industries or
of restaurants
of cadenas,
of cadenas,
of the
different,
that we're
that we're not
not really,
that we're
that we're
just to have
a little bit
a little
little bit
to be
all the day
to be
to be
all the
more
manner.
and no is necessary
to spend more
money,
because all the world
now still
still still
is thinking
this,
the ingredients
naturales
are more
more than the
contrary.
We're going to
consume products
of the
time.
The products
of the
time are
more
accessible,
more
economical,
and we
want to
include
all the
days.
And with
those
they're
going to
be very
very
very.
I'm
sure
that your
am
going to
do
much
will
be
much,
they're
going to
they're
convenient for
your style of
life, not
more for
their system
immune,
that no,
there's the
human
wants to be
the human
want to be
the way,
but they're
to be in
their
state of
their
feeling
very content
to be
responsible
of your
their own
to be
caro,
caro
is being
that's
caro,
caro is
in past
in pastillas
exactly
caros
to get to
the
40,
50
years
full of
pastillas
coming
to
my mom
I remember
my mom
I
remember
I remember
I
they'd have
for the
depression,
for the
gastritis,
for the diabetes,
it was a
cocktail of
pasties,
it was the
thing most
horrible
of the world.
I've
seen, I've
seen,
people who are
that they're
that they're
that
that's
that's
that's
that's the
issue.
That's
that's the
good,
that's
the medicine,
we're to
use it when
that's necessary, but
we're not
to preventer,
that's the
prevention of
the prevention of
the
prevention of
today we have to dedicate us to that.
And right that we're talking
of the microbiota intestinal,
well, these microorganisms
are related with
with the microorganisms,
and it's not seen that
are related with diabetes,
with disabilities,
with depression,
anxieties,
schizophrenia,
and other other
in other therapies
mental and neurologics.
But,
still still studying.
Shekas,
thank you,
thank you,
thank you,
Dr. Paloma.
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Immediately,
they're going to
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Well,
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