El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 136 - ¿Cómo saber si tengo depresión?

Episode Date: October 12, 2020

La depresión es una enfermedad silenciosa que se ha extendido por todo el mundo y puede pasarle a cualquier persona, en cualquier edad o etapa de su vida. ¿Qué podemos hacer si nos sentimos emocionalmente mal y tenemos señales de una posible depresión? ¿Cómo detectarla a tiempo?, y ¿cómo ayudar a alguien de nuestra familia o círculo de amigos si están padeciendo esta enfermedad?  En este episodio del podcast, platicamos con el Dr. César Velasco, quien es un exitoso psiquiatra y terapeuta con más de 25 años de experiencia en materia de salud mental. Espero con todo mi corazón que esta charla conecte contigo si estás pasando por un momento difícil o si conoces a alguien que lo esté viviendo.   ¿Qué puedes aprender? ¿Por qué es importante normalizar decir cómo nos sentimos realmente cuando nos preguntan “cómo estás”? ¿Cuáles son los principales síntomas de depresión y cómo identificarlos? ¿Por qué es importante pedir ayuda y cómo puedes trabajar en ti para estar realmente mejor? ¿Cómo puedes ayudar a un ser querido con depresión?   Para contactar al Dr. César Velasco puedes escribirle por Instagram en @drcesarvelasco o por Facebook como Dr César Velasco Téllez.

This is a theme of the that not many times because it's a

difficult it's a problem it's a thing that a much people that much

people that I've lived the problem that is a directly connected with

with many many suicidies that they're going and it's a

thing that we're not for our good and for the people and for the

people that's the person to the we're we're we

we're especially cariio and we because we're going to to talk with a medical that we're going to

give a lot and we're how to know if we're about if we're the depression, what is the depression,

and how to be able to try it for your good and for the good of the people of

the episode 136, we'll start. The podcast of Mark Antonio Regil

is a production of RGL Entertainment and all his and all important.

I'm want to be the And welcome to the City of Mexico, from Austin, to the city of Mexico, to the doctor Cesar Velasco, who is an exitoso,

a psychiatrist, a therapist, sexual, and of a pairha, more of 25 years of experience in Mexico, in Spain, attending to patients with trastorns emotional and also,

obviously, in the area of psychotrapia sexual and of a pairha. He has imparted more of 150 conferences and talliers about the trastornos emotional, sexuality,

and relations of a pairja for the public general. for professionals of health in countries like Mexico, States,

United, Spain, and many other in America Latina. Invitado, very common to hear

in programs of radio, exitos-isimus, and, and also, he's the coordination of penitial

of the Parinatology of Mexico, Doctor. Good. How are you? Very well, Mark,

I'm, very, Mark, it's an honor to be here. No, man, thanks, to

another, a honor to have been with us and a thing important

because it's a thing that's a lot a problem a lot of a problem of

a lot of not a not the thing not the thing that is the thing that

always has been very important a thing that a that provok that you

don't you know that you know it but already in this moment is being

still still still to be even more relevancy what is what is the time of

the time of COVID 19 Doctor, tell us. Well, look,

Mark, evidently the pandemic has been an impact emotional in all the people.

You have got to or not. Basically for a series of aspects very concrete.

For example, the loss of the freedom of the not to be

to come to do you have to be with much restrictions, the being to be

not able to visit to the fear to the disease, to the contagion,

not only personal, but of someone of someone to be the uncertainty. At the

initial of the pandemic, for there, of the year of February,

the estimations in the news in the news, are two, three months,

we're we're starting the year and the pandemic still, it's there's

a second old of the we're seeing in Europe,

very probably we we'll see us, in America. And that uncertainty is in not knowing when will be to this, evidently, also also it affects because

it generates much anxiety. The por-in-a-de-for-siesion is a very that's a lotimed to many times. It's calculated that one of every 12 people in the world has depression.

Now, with the pandemic, what we're seeing is a repunt in the number of cases probably as not we've seen

in many years. It's patients that never had needed help are you

are looking patients of first and patients that have been been during

much time and they've been so has been with much work the

we're the impact major that we we're seeing is an

amount in the tax of suicidios in the world

as many many many years not it are direct with the pandemic.

I'd say I'd say, for example, the period of employment of of the time is taking the decision to quitars to the bill. That's a problem of the that's

a problem of the people, even to famous to the ex-integrate of Garibaldi, right? Yeah, in Mexico and this and it's going

and it's going going, we've seen doing, we've got to the tax of the desemploying in the States in Mexico,

in America Latina, and it's this desperation of what I know what was a

he came to what I'm or I'm to have to do you or me got to go to

find a work and and it's preferable this carted the game

like if it's a videojew to start to get to

the consequences and also the the mind the

and I imagine that this has to this has to be a I've talked much of

that's always in the podcasts and the courses. Not only is the suffering of what is the

story that I'm going to and I'm a story of a scenario terrorificic that is much more more

more than that's going to that's going in this moment, the that I do I'm

the same the way and the visualize is a more still still no,

doctor? And that's very interesting Marko because in the moment that we're we're

imagining this future terrorifico for our is like it's like it's like it's

it's the brain reaction and this situation of this situation of

a series of hormones that we would we're they're and the risk of

the risk because our our is like very basic

for the for the no there's no a scale of gray

so is black or is never superviven if you you

you you for what we say we're in fear to to lose the employer.

Our Cerebrough how, I'll say a example very basic, we're going to us and we're

going to not the period of the employment. And then it's a situation in the

that the brain that the life is in risk. At final, what we

know we is that these hormones that we're in situations

of stress, the response to the stress ague, they're they're they're

to that is what generates the symptoms of of the other people. It's fascinating. But at

the same time is very very important because we're living in an environment with a stress much more

more high to the habitual, that has a lot of time and so we we're seeing

many people people. If you you're doing or listening this podcast, has been

a pretty depressed, and deprimed or deprimed or deprimed or preoccupated you've been creating

in the stories that superiors that superan the incommodity that's really living because one

one thing is that reality that's living and the other is the other is the other is the thing.

If you have been a really, you've been even has been and what if I'm

going, what can if I'm going to my life, the first that is

to be to do you do and understand and for this podcast,

understand that you, you're you only is you only you're not just you don't

your family or your friend or someone or someone to you that can't be able to be living doctor. That's something

very common and I'd like you'd be first that before we enter into the solutions, to understand

this and how solution it how solution it dimensioning well. What we're in the world in

the pandemic of the COVID-19 there's another pandemic of depression of anxiety and of

ideas of suicide that much people is that's getting to at final of

the final of not only only not only just of the intent of suicidious but

of suicidios consumed of the year, so, after three months,

has emphasis in this thing, it's the day international for the prevention

of the suicide in the world. And the numbers are aterer

is so, it's die for suicide every year in the

world around of a million of people, so every

every every people. To do do make in the

last years have have been a murder for suicide. In Mexico, 65,000 persons approximately, these mortals of those that nobody talk. And, and also that is very important, is that the 80% of the cases have,

as an disorder emotional. Yeah, we've been to depression, addictions, a trastronoenolar, etc. And the suicide is a problem, and, especially of, of the only, of every 10 suicidios consumed, eight are men who are the die. And there are two groups, two groups in those

that's present this with a more frequency. Persons menores of 25 years and the only years. And there in these men, major, of 45 years is where we're seeing, over all the increment, because are the women that have been paid the employment or because they're separated or because they're in an addiction, etc. And that are those that are the people who are

who are the suicide? So, those numbers that You're doing Of those 10 people That are 8 are Those are

Before the COVID These are Numerous Yes, but now Now, Very probably We're going to A increment

A more In this Difference Between Hors and Mugres The first The first The first

The first I mean in the question Is because, in general, more than of COVID or before

of COVID Sooo do you Suicin Much more those men Because in the

Homs not we're not basically the difference is a not,

not is a not a difference that's we're we're we're that there's

that can determine the major probability of suicide we've we've

we're that's that's that's much more frequent than other is the

reality cruded and is that the people we're not

we're for our social that that's that that's the

thing that that the or affect a fact a a child a child

a lot he's a lot he he's enoched in his car and he's he says

and he says to the marriage but the man has this idea that I don't

show that I'm that I'm I'm sorry that's not the people don't he

has a personal no it's more to not yes presumed

present they to present the men, no, the men, we're we're going to because if a man

wants a help for his health emotional, what is that is someone is that someone is someone fragile,

vulnerable, tonto, incapac, chaffa, like we say in Mexico, that no correspond to

this stereotype of the masculinity, strong, resilient, capable, always is sure

of same valiant, etc. And this difference in not in not

in the stereotype terminate to the people. It's like all the men have to be like

as a man or like the Hulk. So, we have to be so we don't know not.

And it's and it's and it's true. In our our course in the course of

the 85% of the almost 10,000 people that are taking

the course are women this this this a lack of

this not a question, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm

I'm sure I'm I'm three, four therapists in my life and I

always I don't know what what I had made in moments difficult and in

moments apparently not difficult if had been the the thing I

have done to me myself of a one or a

therapist professional I every two two two religiously, in this moment, this year,

every two semans, I have my visit 90 minutes with my coach, and if pass something, I can't put to check a email or we can't gore electronic, because it's the that that can't erasersers and see the things with more peace and tranquillity. But it's really, this platica not is very common between

men, for the most until now. No, for sure, that no. And the issue is much more easy than what we're talking. I'm saying, the depression is a problem. If a problem not you know,

you know, diagnostics a time, the disease will be aggravating. The complication more grave of the depression, of the trastorovipolar

is the ideation suicide and the intent suicide. No, because not you know what you say that no exists. So, is so it's easy

and so. Absolutely. That's normal. Eight of 10 men, this was before the COVID. And this

of less of 25 years and more of 45 years, this is new? this incidences in the men? No,

but what we were we're going Mark, it was a tendency that the the intentos and the

murders for suicide was going to be those the men more young and

to the women and the pandemic is a moving other again

to the men to the men and the final is a disgrace

you know a one a one one one

a one imagine a a man that a

a child, a wife a person who a person and a boy, and the

people who have a person who have a person who are people who know the first man.

The first man. And it's horrible. So, so it's a pause,

the people, we're going to say that before the COVID and during the COVID, how

they're they're they're they're they're they're that's permitted

between or socially it's normal to hear a a woman that say, I'm sorry,

I'm depressed, I'm depressed, I need to start there's a problem, and that's something in that the women and the

women can't work together to change. So that's right, that's in a first election. Absolutely.

And, and also, I'd want to talk rapidly, Mark, the theme of the

pocos solidarious that we are the men with our gender. If a woman, it's just a lot, immediately is the road-de-de- of women. That no they're going to to judge, that no they're going to say what has what has to do, but they're going to listen and they're going to

try to resolve what she has pita. The men are not so. No pelamos, no we don't do we're doing, we're talking, about, that's feel not. In the

best of the case, let's what we're going to get with someone,

no, you know, take a but no, we don't, we have this a depression, because, as

the doctor, if no say, how I'm going to try, if no I've done to find out me, if

not I'm identify the symptoms, how I'm to do you know, or I'm doing a third or a member of my family,

a friend, a major, a little you know, and tomorrow you know, and you know, you're going to

get to that. The first step would understand the problem, that we're we're doing, but the

second segment, I think we we'll deke us, doctor, if you understand to understand what are

specifically the symptoms, the signals of a depression, the signals of that there's a in potency, a probable or possible suicide, and obviously what do you do

when it's identifixos in us and in the other. We'll be able to a pause. This what we're living now not only it's a level

physical, a level pandemic, a virus that we have to control. It's a level mental and emotional. Because we're living what many experts

do say, an agotamient of the pandemic, agotados of not live, how we'd get to be, agotados,

to not be able to get out of and beavocas and beasas and give us and get us and upacharned and enjoy

of the life with certain and vacations reunions family. It's an agotamient of the

isolation. It's normal. It's normal and every every every time it's in a

great to manage our mind and our emotions. Because the more

the large this is a RETO more complicated. For that, today more than never, the first step is know if

our mind is not being being used to our friend or our enemy. It's just, it's doing the things

more difficult as long us stories that complicate more what is complicated or our mind is

trained to help us to help to be to manage better the things, to be

in this in community in the center, in our peace, in our creativity, in our possibilities infinite. If you're seeing this desperation, number one, I'll tell you, it's normal. You're a human and it's normal that you

see what you see. But number two, and very important, we have to learn. And for that you want to invite to that class gratuit, that millions and millions of people have seen, and has served much during this time that's difficult. The class gratuit that you can't see in line, in the

or the time and day that more you convene in your cellar and completely gratis or in your computer

or in your tablet is your call discover if your mind is your mind, what is your life?

What story you are talking? Dall click this in that you know and you

do the class and repit it's gratis and you can't be you know

we're we're we're going to know if I'm know if I'm

I'm depression Dr. Doctor, after after after we've

we've Contigo in the segment anterior, especially for the men, how to know how to know if I'm

not a contrary to what the symptoms more frequent of the depression are this what we call the state

of the feeling me me, sent me more emotionally. The second is the lack of

energy, is that can be manifestar in many ways, as a canstance

very great, the sensation of that all is cost-arriva, that that I'm

not I'm rendient, as as much people who tend to do not more than other than.

Another symptom very frequent is not to do you do not to do do you get to

the time. The point, the life, it's to get with people, the time, the time,

the programs of the television, for example, a symptom very common is the a period of

sexual, and that the point with this sensation that you not has a

chiste my life. There are others are much more more more

to identify that is the people that you know that the first there's a question,

there's a symptom that is very particular that would say, we'd like the equivalent

of the that the that is the irritability that is that's present

more in the man's this man, he's every bad humor,

every reaction with more intensity emotional and situations

that before had never have that generated that. Problems

to do with insomnia very frequent is what you want to ask you very

very frequent because they're in a sleep, and they're in the time,

your brain and then his things for the people are the bad

people or of that they are that I don't get to get to

get to get to get all these those these scenarios

of what you what is what is what is what is what what is

what to get a start and you and you start

you're there's there's there's a question but in English

it's you get to get you to get to the area and you you're

getting into into into into into so you in a

torbell you you're you're you're you're because you're

so the thing so the thing and I do you do it I'm

because I do I'm that I said it I'm when I when I

my mom I'm she was my mom I don't have my kids I'm not I'm not I'm

I'm I'm I'm yeah my life my life has been my life

I don't have the television for example is still so so so my my life

entire was my mom my mom that was my mother's my

and the television so so that not only that so more in times of public but

it's more in things for me because yeah the television

you don't I could have been to the things that I wanted to I'm

so I'm so I'm my life's my life's what I'm what I'm what I'm

doing it and more than a sensation Marko of soledat profound and so and of

not be understood that's that's that's too that's that's to say to

to who I can I'm to tell this the people not me

to be to me will be to we're we're we

we're so so I don't want to see that rechazzal because what I

see is like a spejo where I'm this monster or this fracass of person that I'm so I

so I'm so I'm and then it's the questionation to me pass about a

more me I'm I'm sure not I'm never I've had done that a more I'm a

thought a I'm a more a more and you and you and you you're

you're to get to excaate and to excavar like if you were a topo

to get to a little where the only that you're in it's more confusion, more depression,

so they're distortioning the realities and the things and you're to micro-analyz the other

years. I'd have been a man, I'm a lot of I'm a and of a time you

to get us the depression to those things, who knows, but then then there the mind,

for so I think so the mind starts literally like if it were a virus, like if it was your enemy, if you're

you're going to that's a because he's a new thing. That's the reason for the question. For example,

something we've also something from a depression, are the symptoms of the culp absolutely inadquado.

There's, there's like an interpretation erronea of my role in the life, where all it's making

me to feel that I'm the other. For example, so you said, is that I've had ever made a

question of people, the problem is, the problem of my children, I don't have wanted to have a father like

I'm not, I'm a poor of my spouse, or poor of my spouse, or my people, if I'm

explained, because I'm a bad person. And if he's in the mind to get more profound

and then he gets to questioner things like your value, is, is that not

value, is it no serve. Is it defectuoso? Is it not me

I'm meresco a more or I'm a maldition and I'm and then and then I'm

And of these and the and the things Marko probably probably the

most of all this is that I don't be there there's a very pretty.

Okay. And also something that is that in the moment

that the patients that the people start with these ideas sooo in the moment

of fantasize with the idea of suicide, they're to feel less angustied. Because you know

in this in this an little bit of this thing, they're seeing a

a sounder a in this decision. And then then, but no so no

so they're not so they're so they're so, so they're all the idea of

the idea of the of the more they're they're So, so they're

accommodating with the idea. And as the end up and the end up every every

they're every they're so this idea and it's to be a

scenario real and then then they're to plan the suicide yeah

so how I do with pastillas me I'm I'm a

barranca I'm or I go or me I'm with 80%

of the of the suicidies are for aorcament. In the States with the facility that they're to get to receive arms of fire

is the use of arms of fire. But, tirars of edifices, tiracy, and then the emmenanament is more frequent in women,

in women, without. That's curious, no? So, so, so. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, Fault of energy, Dorming,

to more. I'm, I'm, I'm I'm, I'm don't know to doorming at the time I'm five of the

morning, well, I'm going to get a mannest, and I'm going to get up, that's another, not

only only that you're not you're not, or you're doing more for the morning, levantant and

you're in the eyes, I'm a when I'm when I'm super deprimed, I'd I'm,

I'm like, oh, Oh, another day. I'm to get to get to to be in a

for what I'm going to? It's the morning much more difficult for the people with

depression because it's another this, this, to confront me to this emotions,

to this, to this to, this, to this, to, this, and in the

moment that's on the sun, he's, they're, they're, they're,

it, it, it, it, it's, it, But it's terrible, this Luchy, day, because

every day is more difficult. Sure, because it's starting, I've recorded, I'm going to start another day of a life that I don't like. Where did my life? What's the way? What's the person? What's my job?

Where did my money? Or the people that's a divorce? Pyrgy to see a divorce. Or he fellacy to someone of COVID, or someone's a suicide, or someone's going to go, or someone's going to live to

other place, what whatever. preparation, perid, is, I'm a way, and for why I'm

a life that's not a lot of , I'm not really, that's all the contrary to when you're

doing, you're doing a work, and in a job that you're doing to do that's a

project that's a new time, and it's all the time, you're all right, and you're all right, and you're

just with the time to bea so much, so-and- if you're, And these symptoms together is altisimally

probable that you have a depression. Now, to have a depression is human. No is that

if I have a depression, not is that I'm a doctor, right? So, no, no,

no, no, no, no, it's an election to be Mark.

It's like no is an election to be to have to have to have

to have the cholesterol old, as a like, to have been to have the pressure an end up. A lot of it. It's a one of the

problem. And that's probably the major tragedy in this sense, of that, of that we're to do we're not terminated as a society. That is a new a problem. And there's, for the stigma around. But because

as it, because, as it's not, the end uproreda. So, no, there's a study, where I'm to take a a same and it's

something that I'm a lot of we're in we're going to this is

these are these are more about the way that's specific for depression

as like we don't we're an study of an

study at the final of the this of

the form changes in the care that they're saying

that the patient has the patient We still not we

don't know we have been we're in resonantia magnetic, that signaled, for example, certain areas of

the braines of the brain of the brain with the depression. So, so no there's the

interpretation of someone external, that says that you have the disease, the person,

it's a person to put in a lot, it's veryidissimo, there's veryidissimo people still in the

world that still negating the existence of the virus. A past of the quantity enormous,

this week pasted, the million of the people have died of the disease, seven million

of people not have got to the disease, and there are many people, because,

because no we don't know we've been. But the the symptoms still more profound, I

remember when was in plen, plen, the pressure, I, And because in the religions, in many of the religions, it's the thing of the duel, no,

of that you say, no, no, do you do not, no do you do not do you, no managees, no does not, because you're affected. So I, I saw, I, I decided, no, I don't take antidepressives, that's not, no is, no, I'm not, simply was a decision personal in my process

personal and with a coach professional that I was assorting, but no I'm recommending, and I do that say more, but I decided not to take medications because in the past I was taken

and had taken and had taken effect that I personally not even but what I did count is that I took two accidents in car

in two those two for my cause for distractions tontas I was in an alto and I thought that's I had put in a

light of and I was he came to the left the left I could have been made a car I could have made a person

the right and no, I was a person that was going to the car with, and not he

didn't, no, he could have passed, I could have been done in the carcel,

for to get a person. I'm, this is, no, I'm, what I'm

going to get a real, I'm going, that I'm that I'm that, this is normal,

doctor, in a depression? It's very frequent. We, we're, we're, we're,

we're a limit, of attention determined, let me, in someone that not is a not

the attention between the world internal and my thoughts and the

world external is going conform we're going to a person with a

person is a question. And then, the world that's not they're doing, they do they're

they're an interpretation what is what is what is what is what is This is the also

symptom of the And your And your And your And your And your So you're You know,

if you are you can't and the car in front front and it's there's and that you can't

you get you get you react you reaction as less Lent right? So the

Cerebron more and for example this this study precious that

demostro that the people with the people with less brillantees that

that's not a metaphor it's a fact. And, and,

for the, these, these, these, these, these, these,

generate more stress, generate more culp, they're they're another other way,

the, the, the person, the unutil that is, and that

the thing, that's, every be, it's, it's, it's very

delicate, is very delicado, if you are a depression, a a peridid

Ferdit, take much good with manage machinery, a vehicle, with whatever

thing delicate, where you can't put your life or make that someone

more that is really. In fact, Mark, exist this that in

psychology is called conducts for suicidas for the

things, but no elaborated a plan. But of I'm committed like

you committed I made a in a avenue very

concurrida. So at final, I'm doing something to quit me the life without, without having the conscience. But it's so that's so that's a part of me, that when was a part of me, that when I was pared in the altar, and I

thought that was in bed, and the car was caught, there was a part of me that he would have liked that that car had been doing, that was the thing that had been, of that my life, yeah no exists. What the best, the thing I can do. The best, the

The better that I could do it. That's not I've seen, that's a

question. I thought that my brain was disconnected, that I'm not I'm in my

five sense, but not I've thought that the could have been having been trying to

be, we're to get us and we let's and as not me going to suicide.

It's a decision that I go to then it's so you don't even we put

so acylitos for that something so much that it's super delicate and that

that that great is a sabiduried of I'm saying, I'm depressed, declarer it, and understand that's a new formidat,

and when I'm that I'm sure, then I'm going to do a lot. And we need to get the vergence, we have to know about this,

we have to know that we don't is that we'll get us or we're defectos or no, we don't have

no, we have done this positivism of the that I've been called in other episodes, is very

good, but it's when it convictive in toxic, you have to be strong and resilient and to you, the life, not you go. And then you say,

if I'm not I'm in there, then I'm sorry. No, what is to be like Superman all the time, or the

woman, maravilla all the time. That's, it's impossible. It's not, not it's human. No, no, I see

you, you know, so, you know, the creators of the comic of Superman, decided that

suicide. Yeah, because Superman decided suicide. because for to end up all the world he's not

he's not he's not he's not he could have a newia not could have had never a family

no could have never had different because there always someone bad doing to do

and he decided suicidars for the of the the the

the characters of the comic was terrible and at final

they had but even superman could never depression

He gave depression? He had depression. He had been many people exitosites in the life, many times, women,

women, women, entrepreneurs, actors, actresses, deportists, professionales, he's got to

with a president, in an interview that, who, he, he,

in an interview about, he, he said, the, of his own different,

there, there, there's people, who were criticed, for say abutamintamity

that was terrible that I'm critician many people me critiqued in red social when I know I'm when I'm sorry for my mom, when I'm

my perrita and said this, I'm going to say the words but they used there's these terms quite far as

or when I go to learn of him, this does taillers this day, he does this day and he's dying to

get to the mom, and he's I'm sorry to learn to get to me they're to get to say in

the certain that's that's that's that's person. And the and the

person includes the suffering. The life is so. But there are limits in the suffering. And part,

to be, the great exit of the human as this is this capacity to establishes social.

Because we have survived because we know we're we're doing we're doing. So, then in

a infirmidad, what we do we're to be somebody who know how how

you're to get to there from you're Well, we'll do a pause. When we go ahead. I hope

that's time because there are various questions that I'm going to do you want to what are the symptoms and we've seen what the problem.

It's not to know the depression as a problem. So, for that's, I can't know if I'm

or no I'm depression. Now, what I want to understand in the second segment that we

understand us that if it's a doctor that the doctor us platique, what is literallylyly, for that

the fact, of the really, to really, we understand what, rationalize, what

what is There are changes, if or no, in the Cerebrough when you're in a depression and obvious, how can you

can't help and how you can't help to the time to talk about of the medications. They're good, are bados,

when so, when no, how I'm that ralita of equilibrium between use those, when,

to do you need those I'm, how, how to know, how to know, how to know when I

start, I'm trying to use just, yeah, more being, a vation

of the reality, and me I'm brinkando my process of the cresement personal, in the while include the dolor and include a certain level of

a certain level of the rest of the last segment. Sure. We're trying. We've got to. A pause. We'll get us.

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there's, you're doing, you're just, and it's great you can't be right in your cellular, your

computer, and the doctor Cesar Delasco, how to see if I'm depression. Well, I'm going to try to

to give malgrano for that you can't explain because I think we could we should have a seminar with you, my dear doctor. What happens in the Cerebrum? Tengo depression, something changes in my Cerebrough? Scientifically, what is it happening in my the case? Well, you remember that at the principle, we've said, the

response to the stress of our body, generates, produce certain hormones that are the that are the ones that are making doing the brain, is that. Is what happens? If we're subject to a level of stress, is too

high for the time, we're doing these hormones all the time. The hormones, all decompone, these compounds

that are generated in the decomposition, destroying directly the neurons. These substances mutton to these neurons

of certain areas of the brain, basically I would say two. One, the part

of the part of the brain that control, the, under the communications, the system

limbical is there, it's there, in the the Cerebro, particularly a structure that's called amygdala. And the other part that is in the cortecese prefrontal, that is the responsible of the functions

executive, the juicy, the racocinio, the memory, the attention, etc. How do we know this? Because studies scientifics of image have demonstrated that the patients with depression chronic have structures more small, for example, one that's called the hippocampo, if you go, because it's a

caballito of mar. So, it's more small. But when you do this structure, this structure,

will be to recuperate their size. So, not it was a sad. It was for the

treatment. What is the treatment ideal for a patient with depression? Partamos of there.

What is what has to be a psychotapia? Always. Not all the psychotherapies function.

There are psychotherapies that if you have been in evidence scientific, there but

not, but I don't enter in many details to respect. A psychologist for

terminated the career not a doctorate. He has to study psychotrapia. That's

me also fundamental. No is any person. It's a psychotheraper. The evidence

scientific us says that in depressions leves, with the psychotapia is sufficient.

No you need medications. There the medications no doesn't any difference.

So, in patients with depression lebe, no we're If it's a depression moderate or a depression grave, then we're medications. What are in the antidepressives? Well, first, it's impossible to

an antidepressive. That's something fundamental. The antidepressive is a substance that in the moment of taking it, you change your state of animal. No, that's it. That is so does the alcohol, that iso the marijuana, that is it does the LSD, so if it does the cocaine. The antidepressibles, no, generate that. What is what they do? Actuant regulating the response to the stress in the Cerebr, of that that stress, yeah, no, has a

damage. And that can't that the Cerebrose to start to recover. Dege of being inflamed. The people say, and what the neurons that were

other thing that we've discovered in the last years is that in our brain, we're in a bank of Cerellas, Madre, these cells that can can be in the tissue that we need to need them. It's the impression that the antidepressives

activate in that bank. And then the structures that were neurons, to those structures get neurons new. For that's that's that increase the structure. For that is that the cerebrose

is that disappear in the symptoms. Because the symptom is something is a chemical. It's a neurobeo-chimic. It's like in the kitchen. You do, you do you do,

you do, you do, you do do you, you do, and, you, well, will change with the ingredients. So the ingredients of your brain

are the different. So the mind you know, because as the neurons, now there are no there are

not there's substances that we need to neurotransmissors and the people have heard serotoninia is very frequent

inoradrenalina glutamato, dopamine, etc. As far there are neurons that are there are these substances

disminuoles their concentration in the Cerebr. That is what generates the

symptoms. when there are neurons new that will be able to produce these substances, the symptoms disappear. For that is impossible to get an antidepressive. Now, how much time

do you have to take? One year. For no less one year. Why? Because what we know is that if at the three months, that the patients

should be in symptoms, that is very important. In the treatment of depression, that we call remission, the disappearance of all the symptoms. Disapparition. No, no, no. At the three months

have disappeared. If you're suspends in that moment, the probability of recalida is in the 90%. If you're suspends to the

six months, the probability of recalied from the 70%. Still, still the years of the 20% because we

because we know that the the organo that is the organo that time more in recuperation of the

is the organ more sensible to do then it It's tardy more. For that is that they have to

take a year. At a year, together with the psychiatrist, that we've said, fundamental psychotherapy. If it's a

depression moderate or severe, fundamental a psychiatrist, a medical that know of these medications, it's to get to the

medication. If the symptoms reappearce, we'll do we'll do three months more and we'll

go back. This, of the hand of sessions where you're talking with the psychotherapist where you're

talking about your process where you're learning where you're taking when you're taking some things like for

example, the I've to process I was, if I'm a child that has a that's

a, that's that's that's that's that are part of the origin of my depression.

Who's I'm more than the mission to be a great child to do

to help to in the sessions is where you limitant, that is like a virus that you're there's there. And, also, Mark,

another thing that is marvellous is that the psychotherapy also generate changes in the Cerebr. That's incredible. The pensions representings are like a way in the Cerebr. If a, a thoughtmintrable,

it's a little time, that in the Cerebrose, and then the Cerebron tends to use that the way in the major part of the time. In the psychotherapy, what we we do we do we do we do our alternatives.

Another possibilities. Of course. In the moment that you start to recorrent this new way, at the same time you're doing the

anterior. For that psychotrapia cure also. The psychotherapy also the psychotropy does the brainches in the brain.

It's incredible. For that's required the two when we're talking to a depression moderated and for the question when

there's a depression but there other things that also For suppose, a style of a life is a good.

Basically, what has evidence scientific? It has been evidence scientific in the meditation. What kind of? The thing is

mindfulness. Mindfulness. But what do the meditation in the brain? Does exactly the same

that the psychotherapy and the medications. They're going to create new things in the brain.

And, and, and the moment that you are you're doing, and you are

breathing profoundly, let's you're saying a message to your Cerebro, that all is a difference

of when you're anxiously, that's reprisis that's repiring very rapid, that your heart is latining very rapidly,

when you're when you're when you're when you're the oration also the thing is a type of

oration. If what what I'm saying is, God, I'm a poor little victim,

no, I'm going and salvame and help me. That's not to be undying more in

that. That's that's so, so if if I'm pass. If, if, if, if, if I'm the message to my brain, my

brain, my cerebral, de facto my brain, my brain, what more has to do you? The exercise aerobic. One, one, one, just you said that the mindfulness is the that's the more evidence. More evidence has, because

the mindfulness is the more evidence? Because there's the difference. But there's, Mark, that's, that's the difference. But what is, but what does the mindfulness that is, the reality is that

the mindfulness is, you're you're to meditate to someone but without

without not not association spiritual that not not

not is not not not is only the process

to learn to learn so it's very easy

to apply very easy it's very very easy

and for that has more evidence not because

not because not not there not there is to breathe and

enfocar your mind in something. So, for that your mind, it's like, ah,

to get to get to those things, many, that's that's deteriorating,

is to say, a pause, it's like to say, oh, I'm going to say,

and who's and who's meditamos, and we, we're not we're these things,

as the first, that's, that's, that's, that's incredible, From the first That's what happens

So it occurs So, So, So, So, Okay, To what I'm

refer to I'm refer to do you? Of 30 to 45 minutes, of three to four times per

time, with the only the only you have to prepare to the marathon

of the Olympiads. Camin' to 30 to 45 minutes, three to four

times per seven. What does that? It produces substances in the

brain that makes feel more. Who are you do you know in exercise

physical with frequency know this sense of the thing

that generate the exercise physical. If you just just a time just

to come to your car, to do you a car, to a car to

ride, a something something where something that's accelerate

the the car and sues a little is a

mind omega three also it is we let me,

I didn't, I was prepared my botecito of Omega 3 vegano. Goodsio. Here is. Here's just

right. The year last year was the first revision that demonstrated the omega 3 helps to

this recovery. Omega 3. The 6 and 9 no, because a many of them they're they're

they're getting this supplement for those for those who are doing in YouTube, the those who

are doing what I'm doing a that says omega-3 vegan because there are omega-3 of the peces and omega-3 of algae. But many

times in the supplements they're in omega-3-6-9. But the you need you really is the three, no? That's the good.

So, so all the days, that's not that the omega-3, the exercise, the mindfulness, substitute you're to the therapy

and to the, and the, and the medications. No, are, they're not. the,

that's, that's, that's, that that's, that's, what I said,

a moment, start to have a kind of a style of a life more and that's,

that also has, not only in a short-plas but, but that a long-

plasio, and that that causes, that the risk of to be a episode of

depresive disminue. If you you go to a psychotapia and you understand, redefinest

your existence a through the therapy, that's what you get to

have to never more to do you never more to do you because you know for that's

the therapy. For that's what you is what you is a style of life is to come things

things that next week we're going a nutrition and a new great carina

belasco we're about about about the food that you can't help

to help to to get to get to do a different to come

a and me get from the depression. No, but to help. No. But that style

of life where I'll get a style of active, I'm going to eat sanely, I'm going to take therapy,

I'm going to take, um, food, um, um, if I'm a depression

under supervision medical, I can't decide, take antidepressivos, below supervision medical and

with a plan, and then this does it that you do that when he gets to the depression,

my dear, my my dearer doctor, we're do this contrary. Not we're trying. You're just

a trice. Tristristic. Trastriste. You're, you're just you're eating a chatarra.

So, no, exercise. Comed to eaterce. I'm going to therapy. No, I'm to talk to

nobody. I'm I'm doing to rumy these destructives and limitants that your

mind you not because it's not because it's not simply because they're reacting to some way to

what so it's normal. It's normal, that's a normal, that's a condition medical, is a

disease, it's a mental, then the mind of the time you're to give the question of the question of the contrary to what

to do you do that you do you're doing that you're going to put more. Has it you know, where is the

free? A bit, I'm going to get to the friopos to get to get the best

respiratories of the more mucosid and I will do and I'm going to do you

do it all the contrary to you get to put you to make all the pastels that you

want to where you want to where you where I'm where I'm so I'm injected

you're so undying, you're you're going to every more horrible, you're

to have attacks of anxiety. I'm I'm I'm I'm in the

night with attacks of feeling that I'm that I'm that I'm

that's a meditation that I've practiced I'm I'm I'm I'm feeling

And I said, no, no, no, no. If I don't have studied what I've studied, I don't know what I've been pasted. So I said, I'm saying, I'm still, no, if I'm still responding. And I was, and I was,

so I'd have been to the camera, I'd have been to the window, and me put me to breathe nothing more, conscientently, so parado. And that so much, that's,

me, so were that attack of anxiety. But it was of the things more horrible, if not is the most horrible that experimented to me. You know,

to say that, to be to, so, to start, that this in reality is a experience of suffering terrible. The people suffer. For that's why decide

the quit of the because what they want is to end with this pain that they're experimenting. I mean, not is that not that not want to live, what I want to be this that's spantoso.

Now, if we have to someone who has been this, that has been to talk about the issue of the suicide or the murder, that now in social

is very common because, because, nine of every 10 people that are people who are

nine of 10. How do they do they say? So, they're saying to say, they're

to say, to say to us, vera that I am a person, I'm a pessimist,

I'm a person, I'm a personer, I'm a person who's you're more without me.

That's all the antenas they're to for for favor, not just

not to not say is that you're a cobarde you're a bad person because the

only that you're doing is reaffirm the idea that you have to that's going to

get to get to the something in nothing is to say what is

what is what is what is you're you're you're saying that your

life the that's the other is that you're a

another person so you you're Well, yes, you sobras here. So, you know,

that's the, that is, that is, that's, I'm going to accompany to help, I'm to get to get to get,

I've got, I've got to, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to, go, but, but,

but for, but for to start, there, there'd, say, that I'm, I'm,

I'm, so you're, so you're, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I don't have no, I don't want to say, the first of before I'm saying,

wow, I'm, not it's not not means I'm not not quite, or is, wow, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, so I'm, my, so, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, it's,

me, me, The empathy, the empathy in reality not is, not is putting you in the

lapis of the other, is putting to the chapatts and come in those the same, you know,

because you know, I'm not, I'm, how you know, how you do you know, you know,

you can't say, me can't imagine, or, or, or, or,

I don't know I'm, I'm doing, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I respect, your

And respect your suffering. And then we're going to to look help for you. We're together. We're together.

We're together. We're just. And not contradice, nor do you do not

but it's that all is that all right. Right. Right. It's all is all right.

It's all is to be all right. You're going to be a tacho. That's like a tacho,

no? That's like to create the skin, to cut the process. But it's that if we're talking to someone

about us to hear of murder, much people say so what I'm to start the conversation, you know, because that conversation

me is tuesdaying. No, no, no, no, we're saying, all going to be. All right. All right, all right,

it's all right. It's all right. Now you're, not going to be all right. I'd say, I'd say, if you'd say,

if you have a, a, a, a, a, a friend, a, who has cancer, you say,

don't you don't you don't you, and they'll be a help a medical to try the cancer?

So, what's the what's it? We're going to get the help. We're

to question. If you have a cancer of a pulmon, you're a, the

men, we're we're so we're so. But if is of the

emotions, not we so that's the best way to

help. We're going to we're going to not to not care of not not care

to make like no not going to do you I'm going to this, I'm a when my

mom fellesia and when I said to I'm good but that

not I said you don't me say you don't me don't know but you you're just

you're you're you're thank you thank you I'm if I'm if I'm

not I'm I'm not I'm trying because I don't think my mamita is my momita I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry

I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry let me get to the conclusion when I'm

when I'm after my depression when pass for my process that my mom is an angelito that me in the

sky that I'm honestly honestly I'm honestly I'm honestly but no me

you know when I'm when I'm in my depression that I'm I'm that I'm

not you know you do you not you Solidarize, he's, I'm, I'm going to do you,

we're going to what you're doing, what's what you're doing? What do you need to be? How can't be able to

do you? It's more easy than what you imagine. No, you know, you have to have the

solution, right? And the question, Mark, what is fundamental? If I suspect of

someone, the suspect I don't have certain to ask to ask to get the

life? Yeah. Nothing substitutes that question. What is the worst that could pass? That's the that's what? That's

we can't. We can't. We can't do. We've got to do. And you have thought to quit your life? It's very distinct to

you're going to you're going to get the life. So, I passed for moments in that I'm

in that I'm never, I never I'm, I'm, and I consider it like something,

for many reasons. No, there's a question. But, but it but it

cruza the idea, absolutely. but you're receiving help, what was fundamental in

your process. We're talking to someone that's receiving help. So, for that's to ask you

to ask them directly. Sure. Not only, not only, I'm thinking, I'm to clear this

because this is good, not only for the people that can be a depression in this moment, but if

you're saying, you're you're saying, you're doing, you know, I'm doing, I'm, well,

that's what that's your case, so it's that's the what I would have done if I don't

have been a practice of meditation. I don't know what I'm done for years and years yoga if not I had gone to

psychotherapy, a therapy with a therapy with a psychiatrist with life coach. I don't know that I've

done to three years of psychology spiritual. I don't know what I'm if not had been

had been the things. When when if you you're in a depression there's

to do have to have to ask you to pay you to pay you

you trainas. For that is that you going to course, for that's that you go to be

to be a therapy, for that's that you you're to do you you're going to you're

because time or not I'm not quite to do the apocalypse or much but

time or you're a time it's a human you're to talk something

you're to use that you are using that you're you're not just

I'm not just I'm doing a time in this time

years of preparation that me helped to survive it

other way. And even a way, the I don't know I know I'm sure

the mark the mark Antonio of 10 years or 15 years ago. We know. No,

no, it would be to be a not existio. No, it's not it. No,

it's not unfortunately was this other Marko and that was receiving help and

that's permitted help. That me permitted to receive help. And

fifte that one that was I think it, today I'm going to be, I'm

a good atcheter goodyce good, I'm doing the third year, I was doing a course

advanced yeah for graduations in psychology spiritual in the University of Santa

Monica in Los Angeles was a course where we were literally with

making, with making, to make, it was a, it was a course where

it was not for people that had an emergency psychological. It was

a for the people that was stable, but that could go more profoundly to his inconsient to sanar whatever thing that was a thing and we did a process very emososos of meditation and we pediams,

we visualized, like the inconsciente had a guardia that guard there the things that we could not tolerar and we'd be able to the door and that was that was to show us that in this moment

we're ready to to work, onrar, and learn, and learn. that was the course. I had you inscribed before the my mom,

then I took to be there. And I remember that you're trying, soyo-sand I'd have three days

of my my mom, I said to Ron Holnick, that was our master, doctor in psychology,

he said, is that Ron, I'm, I'm sure, that my life, I'm sure that with

my my mom, all the all of my thing, I'm not has a thing,

like I had a mission, and I And I'm that it's and for what I'm

here. And then he said he the game the jugator that I made sure that I'm

contradicted him. No, how you think you? No, you know, you know, you know,

he said, no, of that of that. He said, it's true, he's right,

he's you know, you're a question, to do you a way, is a game that

is a thing, but as it has been, would be to ask for what you're going to

because at the way there another movie, at the more there's a other possibility because if

not, if you it would have been, but if you are here, for you you're but it's

that, so, no, I don't resisted to my idea of that my

life, of that that was that was with much intelligence to say, okay,

no, I don't I'm, I, I'm, I, I, I,

is that I used a way to say it's perfect. Not is the why I'm not the for-ke-

but- that's- why I'm that. That's that means that that's a mission

new. And that's something that is something when one is an time when one

is the work to get the people recuperated, you know? So, so it's

very emosionate. see how, of they're, oh, they're forms, and they're ways, and they're new, and

they're in this manner to be to see them, to be asimis distinct, much more more more compasive,

much more more, um, amorosa. And, I insist, this has a impact a

long-plast in the life. There's a always. For more a day, for more,

it's, being this, seeing this, being this, listening this, tell you this doctor.

If there's someone who is there is this video or listening this audio and saying there's a real there's a

soundid? No, but is that my problem, because the mind you think so no, no, no, is that

my problem no problem is a solution. My problem is different. It's that you know your problem.

That is something also also also something fundamental. You know is your problem.

Your problem is external to you. Always there always a always there will be a

we're to look to No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, a personal community. And so is also, too, we're going to incredible of this work. We're going to find a, but we're going to say,

here, there's someone that's, with all the things that we're, to, to our, to, our, to, our, to, to our, to, to, ask us, to get to them. Thanks, doctor. In where you can't find the people that can't, continue to in, in

social, or, or to talk to, or to talk to you. I don't see if you have in your agenda. I would like. I would like. In Instagram, a. DR,

the doctor, D.R. Cesar Velasco, with S. In Facebook, D.R. Cesar Velasco Tejys. There,

me can sender a message direct and I'm kind of. I'm in contact with you. And, well, in Instagram

I do many many lives almost every every year. This, but this, this, this experience

with you, Mark, me, me, me, has, has been a very pleasure.

I mean, like that's about to talk about you. Like, and we could here make us we chasmast the podcast more

long of the year. Rompy all my promises to do the podcast more short. But I

think that's a matter that not can't, to me to the, yeah, with this we're

we're we're still we desperable much and for so I decided to dedicate me

to communicate me to communicate me in the media digitales. is the thing we we're going

to this. We're going to say to the suicidious. You're four minutes. Three questions and we're going to do. And how, if we're even, we've got to start to profundize, I hope that we're getting to a place that, really,

to really, de really, to have been served. And thanks, thanks to new, Doctor. For having been with us. Thanks, thanks to you, for your generosity, Mark. Wulbe, Prong. The day that you want,

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