El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 140 - Alimentación saludable para niños

Episode Date: November 9, 2020

Es muy común escuchar frases como “es niño, dale los dulces que quiera”, “entre más gordito y cachetón, más sanito” o “no exageres, está bien si come más pizza”. Pero la realidad es que el consumo de pastelitos, pizzas, galletas, refrescos y toda la comida chatarra llena de azúcar y grasas saturadas, está enfermando a los niños de esta generación en todo Estados Unidos y América Latina.   En el podcast de esta semana, tengo el gusto de platicar con la Dra. Andrea Péndola; ella es pediatra especializada en alimentación basada en plantas y desde Chile y nos comparte información suuuper valiosa sobre cómo prevenir la obesidad, el sobrepeso y la diabetes infantil para así construir generaciones mucho más saludables.   ¿Qué puedes aprender? ¿Cuáles son las consecuencias de alimentar a los niños (as) con azúcar y alimentos procesados? ¿Cuáles son los beneficios de que los niños (as) lleven una alimentación más saludable basada en los alimentos que la naturaleza nos regala? ¿Qué nutrientes son fundamentales para los niños (as) y cómo pueden obtenerlos en una alimentación basada en plantas?   Puedes seguir a la Dra. Andrea Péndola en sus redes sociales:   Instagram: @lapediatravegana 

What is the best gift that we can't do to our new generations? The new new

that's the people who are the people of the United, there's problems terrible of obesity, diabetes,

obesity, infantil, that we're going to get to the rest of the life or that they're going to carry for

if we're if we don't we're going to attack the problem from the reason. For that this episode,

and I've asked the gusto to have a pediatra exitosa, very good, scientific, from Chile,

the doctor, Andrea Pendola, in this episode that's called Alimentation Saludable for Nineos. Episode 140.

We'll The podcast of Mark Antonio Regil is a production of RGL Entertainment and all

his rights and all those things. To be a important, obviously, not I

know I'm not I'm a expert, but a person, a scientific, someone that's

someone who says this point of view of the science. So, so from

Austin, Texas, we're going to the other world and we're not to get to get to the

doctor, Andrea, welcomeita Andrea Pendola. You're in Santiago of Chile? Yes,

I'm in Santiago of Chile. Much of thank you thank you those mountains

small chelenaes me remember, I'm always Santiago, the city

precious and the mountainas there, the cordillera famous divina. Well, the doctora

Andrea Pendola, obviously Chile student with speciality in

pediatria And, also, is in this moment, cursing, a program that's called Infancies Plan Base, that is enfocated in the manage of the nutrition vegetarian in pediatria, dictated by the Academy of Professionals of Argentina and Avaled by the Society of Argentina of Medicine, of the Style of the Biddle.

And, Doctor, well, you have dedicated, you've dedicated for years to study, to analyze, to see the effects of the diet based in plants in the children and adolescents, to be able to to help them, to help them to help us, because the momas, because the mom's, obviously, obviously,

who are more for their kids. It's more easy that a mom, can't change their habits alimenticious as part of a plan to help to help us that change for her myself, no? It's more, it's more the love of mom, right? That's the more to her own to her own to her? to her myself.

What is your experience in this? And we know what you your question to get to get to

in this thing of the food of the children and the health of the children to do that a diet based

in plants or carried, then the diet based in plants. What what I was when I studied

medicine and then I said the speciality pedatria, a we, to us not us not used to

us. We were to go to die to die and that were and that was able to

and that so they passed on the the reality had to study this and know what is what is the evidence. And I began to investigate because

effectively all my colleagues and in all the places where I go, me said, no, is that no-se-pore. And studying, studying, I did into that in reality, the evidence said other thing. And that, lamentably, we're very desactualized at the point of view of the science scientific in the career, in the co-grader, and I decided to put him to study. And

I started to study, and no pari more. Until the day of today of today I'm studying, because I did that if you can't and that has many many people

and that's there are much that's there's a other reasons opting for this type of the

kind of they need that they're that they're that's expert the guide in the food and in

the supplementation and in the controls and the people have the children

that was my principal motivation at very that was that

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm that you spirit of service, that finally is the

that's the behind of the medical, not the not those who get in the medicine to do that's much good, that a medical

can't get much money, but that's this spirit of service to the other now. Now, the interesting is

that the food that the food based on plantas or cargada. And oh, my gosh,

we're in this podcast, we're going to talk to the benefits to go to a diet based on plants,

although you do you want to do you to do the benefits of to do it in form partial or in form a

complete with your children. But there much the word that's

that's that's that's that's the disinformation but when it's not your

love and responsibility for your children, for your children, for your not those

notes that are that are that's all the things. The curious of

the issue is that you have you have you have you You have you have

to eat vegetables, and no you have to the food rapid and to the frittangas, and to the and all the

and all, oh, no, but to eat more fruitas and what you need, but do you need to do, the little,

the new has clavado in Mexico, it's like, there's a man who said, no, so far,

no, let's see doing, do you know, to my children, to my, just,

that's new just, there's a I don't let I'm a chattara, that's

causing problems terrible, and I'm fear of the fruit and the vegetables. The avocado me will

matter or I'm a bit more that we're going for that time? It's impressive.

How is how you're going to eat more vegetables, how you going to eat um,

how you go to when in reality the problem health public that that exist

in the world, that is the problem that's the problem that we have in

adult. This is not something of adult. So, it's more consuming products vegetal that have a lot of benefits than to see that the CIFT is going to be able to be able to here. Here I have ciph over Mexico, but I want to me

say that in Chile, in Argentina, in Ecuador, in South America, how on the ciph? Because, at the more, they're not more than we're than we're more than we're just. Here the unicef, says, a thirdio of the children and adolescents Mexicans suffer

overpeas and obesity. One of every three. Then, one of every 20, nines and people, perece overpeas and obesity.

One of every three persons between the six and 19 years, padese to a piece of obesity.

One of eight children, menores of five years, it's denutrition chronic. So, is obesity and

desutrition just. Not because you're getting that's nutrido, no. That's said

the abuel, a bit, oh, my jitit, oh, what cachetton rojito, how

gordito and genit is to be able. And the ultimate, says in Mexico, only three of every 10 babies, they're onlyly with the mother during those first six months of life. It's saying, they're changing to the formula, or they're, they're, the food that Pachamama,

that's a mother, that God is for the baby, they're changing for other other thing. So, the statistics in Mexico of obesity, infantil, and adults, with the States, are terrible. Dime, Chile, surely is an example for the world and are better than us.

No, no we are. Lamentably, we're heart champions in obesity infantil and in in in in in adults, too. In Chile, also, also, does that the menor of six years, the 34% approximately have an malnutrition for excess, or they're in sort, that's overbecery. That's what you said, one every day, every year, we're doing, each, every year. We're exactly exactly equal. The problem is that, as a media that the increase in, this, augmenta. In the children, to more of six years,

until the 50% has overrepresion or obesity. and the adolescents also is a 46% more or less and of the fact it's expected that for the 2030 the 70% of the children are in the

projection that is the current with the different that is an important to try to try that is so important to prevent because in the

fund it's a problem health public that is real what the past is that the companies in general that vending these ultra-processed

not it doesn't it's very much that's about so it So it's a thing that not is the day-a-day.

And the I read also in Argentina and in other countries of America Latina, also the really is that we

are very similar. What is in Chile we have that is the thing of the lacktance maternal. More or

less than a 75% of the kids here get with with lacktance materna

after the six months. Yeah, it's a thing that is a better than the

that in our country because we're we're we're we're we're

to be to get to the child after the six months, thanks to this license

so that also the life of the lackance materna, and there's that the lacktance

maternal is a factor protector of obesity future. Yeah, the the

people who are more more protectors to avoidance and that so that is so that's a

important. So, that's we're doing, the problem is that is that the number

is in the phone, desinflin when they get the when they start to to come

to come to come other other other reprocessed. You, as a pediatra, how many

months do you do you know my friend a child, I'm a mom they're a mom two years or

more, no I'm a I'm a know what's. All the mom and the little is the first

six months in the pregnancy maternity exclusive. That's is like the minimum

that one says, ohal that's there's there's there's there

there's a mom's that's that's the woman and the the new that's the

time that's the time you want to the only to the The lactancy maternal

between the enormous benefits that you do that the God, that the universe, that Pachamama you are

in the leachemate is that there is that there if the little six months in the lactancy

maternal, is what you said. Correct? Yes, the more prologger, more than. Now,

we've seen that the cifras are terrible. What we want to get the champion at the

world of football, no? But we're we're going the championship World

of Obesida, the countries of America Latina and learning,

I live in the United, here is the matrix of the obesity, the,

where came to the the epicentro of the obesity, the the epicentro

of the restaurants of the food asucat of all the munchis that we

say we're the things, the Tan, tan, tan, tan, tan. The light of the force. The side of the water. It's in the food rapid that was created

and multiplied in States. And that's, has sparsed by America Latina and, and, well, literally, is

not being, that's the problem. But what are the consequences? Before, to go, the doctor is here to give us

to us to give us and can be, that's a lot. But what are the consequences? of this obesity and this terrible alimentation. Yes,

and lamentably is seen in the children that they've been in pathologies chronics that before were in the adult,

now as the children also, they're also they're in this disease. So, for example, we have

people, we're not people, we're people, people, with different pathologies

metabolical, with syndrome metabolic, that can have been to have a coronary, in the

when it's to start this plaque, in the arteries coronary that then that will

generate infartes to future, has seen that all this has advanced the age, because the children also

are also other alterations like for example the puberty precox, which is something of the point of view of course

the children obese, the people have been unobesos. Also, have alterations immunological, their system

immunological of defense functions better. There is a there a problemator permanent for

the obesity. For the so, also, they tend to make more more infections,

respiratorias, tending to more more more, tending to And also there is

something that nobody mentioned, but it's the impact psychological that has the children, the children suffer of bullying, the children do you know,

make many many times, and also suffer of the trastones of the health care, probably also secondaries to the obesity,

attempting to do you know, with a diet's super restrictive and then it's a circle of that doesn't

that are, and the impact of the fact is that are that time. So, we're in the

I'm in the body as organics of the things of the children not don't have to do you know consequences

psychologics. So the fact the consequences of the obesity, the way, there's more than

obesity, are the more than the consequences. I'm I'm talking a little of the why, but

I'm going to give the word to the word in this. We've what's what's

what's going, Cifras horrible in America Latin, in the United, in the

we've seen the consequences, but for not to I've mentioned some things, but you're

the doctor, not I'm going. Why? Principally, we're living in an ambient ovosogenical. It's like the Dr. Michael Greger

said in his book, How Not to Die. The obesity is a response normal to an normal. The problem are the factors

ambientalal. It's the excess of comidas hypercaloric of the lot of chattara that's

that's full, of gasas of sugar and the grass saturated, obviously are the

people, then those children, are in this type of of food, of this type of publicity,

that would be about in children, but that's not quite it's impossible. It's impossible

to say, like, no it's, if all the month, if you go to a whole thing

is that's not, if the people, they're that they're that they're

not that's things. So, this, this, this world, like,

the abundance, of this type of conducts alimenticies that are not quite and they they're

to take the side of all the food those other other

other other other those are more more because

they're because in the people don't do to eat

those those those those those and rick and

that's one of the factors and the other factor super

important is the activity physical and sedentarm the people

people and to talk the pandemic. The pandemic us brought that that other pandemic

of the because the kids are in classes online or are being playing or

they're because the people are to work and they're to be all in the

house. So, there activity physical, but there's there's

a excess of the times. So, so it has a centarism that

also also contribute much to this factor to the obesity.

For the so the things of the things, the are the things

of the things of obesity. And something that's a lot of people is that the best treatment finally of whatever thing is the prevention.

What one is preventing that the children get to be able to be very difficult. It's super difficult. It's not a treatment that's

aure of the exit. So, we're we're going to do the styles to be the obesity to the children.

And that requires, obviously, preoccupies of the food and the activity physical as are like the pillars fundamental.

And also the is another another thing that never but the children

should be the time that's a question of the question of the time of the time, apart to be the

part of the part of the thing that's that's also that's also that's also to be to be a

obviously, I know the new Marko that's dark to be a night

after the watching to be to be to be to be to be see

see nobien in the cell in the in the middle in the

the pandemic no it's we we do we we'reedamos. And we know

that nobody does with a bad intention. The thing of this is read us a little bit of this to be able to assimilar it with more

facility and make changes to the doctor. We'll make a pause. When we go back we we're going to

the solution. Yeah, okay, you know, the film of terror, Black Mirror, yeah, the cifras

me asusts. Amah, what I'm what I'm so I'm sure. I want my kids, my sobrino

or your future if you don't have been here. And if you don't have this,

this because we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, after the process.

After the the pause, we're the question key to the child, is possible, create a diet based on plant, yeah

say, at 100, at 70, the 50, the 50% based on plants, and also,

what are the myths? Because every that you say, to get a , I'm, I'm going to

come more more, food, you're, you're going to Then, then the doctorate, no I'm not I'm going to do

the light in the way. We'll come back. Before to continue with the podcast, I'm saying that I when I was thinking that the people that

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Saldable for children, the doctorate Andrea Pendola. I'm really the accent

Chilean. Figgate. I'm really, I'm not it's like like very very sweet.

It's like something like I'm like I'm know we've not we're not a accent and for

example I'm I'm sure that the question thank you thank you thank you

all yes we're obviously we're that music that psychologically we're we're part

of the same tribe. So, so it's so it's all psychologically. So if I talk with the

same accent that you, ah, it's it we're not we're in the same place, and if we're

we're going to those accents. And there are accents that obviously, some people are more than other.

And it's a theme of good of people. A me the Chile no me doesn't,

I'm like the accent Mexican. Also, it depends of the accent Mexican,

because if I'm to start like in the TV and you say, So, so you have

seen in the series on Netflix that they're they're so, I've seen.

That accent I'm so I'm so I'm a accent no more I'm doorme

I'm, I'm I'm with all respect. But well the but the

my is moderate too. Well, I have accent Mexican of the

North more more more more. So we let's let's

let's the first question. The first question is simple? Is

possible with a that I have a diet based on plants. My prima, Monica Sanchez, actress of television, that's living right in Valencia, Spain, with his husband. He gets to the little, Angie, my sobrinita, and he says,

Mommy, yeah no care. We don't want to be the animalities. The ganadrya is terrible for the world of conscience incredible. He said, why we come most animals?

We need to. And my prima, he does, Primo, what I do? My husband? Then, he gets to a court and he says

the husband. Go, Moni, go. I, go. I'm going to. a pediatra, a medic, and I'm,

and I'm, and I'm, I'm trying to hear of a doctor. So I'm to ask you, a number of all the

people who are the diet based in plants for their children? Is possible a diet based on plants

in the kids, without that the need the knee, and it's maybe it's possible.

It's possible. It's possible every when it's supervisable by an expert in the time, it's supplemented

and it is a food that in reality all the children should have an alimentation

well, the way of this is possible no, no, no, I don't know I do you, the science,

okay? The Academy American in Nutrition and Dietetic in their last position paper of 2016 it's not really

also, this is about for the society of the society Italian, of Nutrition Humana, for the

Association of Canada, for the Association of Canada, for the Association of Scientetic, there are a lot of social

based on plantas and have a plantas and have a growth and a accord is to your age,

yeah, but obviously have to do it's a planificing and to make the supplements that are necessary.

So the response is yes, yes, but there to do it. And obviously, no I do, I do, it's

the science, this is demonstrated that it's demonstrated. Sure. If you know you're like you're

like a little, as a child, it's the first thing, is the first part of now, there's a lot of

you say, it's much chistos, you know I'm not fum, but I'm I'm going to a cigarro

out of the family and the family, oh, it's, that's, yeah, it's a, yeah, it's like, I'm going to go to get a

, I'm going to get to come to a chattarry, and all know, and all right in the family is a tryvee to say,

oh, I'm, but I'm back you're a lot of, no, so, what I'm, I'm going to go to get a

to takequila, I'm going to go to chile, in Chile, what, in, in Peru, too, like,

I'm, I'm going to put on a put on a t'eq, I, to a chra, a bottle of wine and the family,

ah, it's a bit, divirtete, no pass a nothing. But you're to say to the people, I'm going to

get a diet based on plant and and say, you're going to you're going? So, all of a repent, are neuterologists.

All right. All right. All right. And they're, to say, you and your children are to do you

want to get for more fruit and verdur. But not they know when you know when you you're doing

that's interesting, no, doctor? It's very curious, ah, the vegetarian or vegan,

all they're into experts in nutrition and all they're going to a lot of a lot of that's not really

and if it's a little, so there the the way the those prejudices are even more that's a in the way

you're going to do you're going to do the other but when they're done a McDonald and a

papas frit and nobody they're saying because he's doing the papas

at McDonald or the Coca-Cola with so car so it's because there is because there

is much they're not I'm to I'm I'm not so I'm very respectful, but if I'm saying, like, for a more, I don't even I'd say, but I'm saying,

Oye, this, like, even, I'm, even, in a tone sobe-sive-cite. I go, oh, yeah, that's, is, is, is, it's,

for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, I mean, they'd, and I, and I, and, you, all my life,

battalough, and, and, and, they, oh, yeah, the, the, the, the, he's, the, the, the,

he has clobed, or, the, the, The kid has to do you do you say a man to do you

a man? That's all the whole of the good to do you know, the idea is to try to explain that in the

phone there's there's a thing that's there's a time to come to be a day-a-day should be a

most healthy to make that's sure that the childable as a time. The children those are

not necessarily well-nuced very good-nutried and sanos. It has many consequences for the health, then

to try to always to always to be the need of the parents that's always want to do you know, the father

never want to do you so you'll let's say there other options to eat more and that's going to be

incorporating a little, so, it's that all the people, all the people,

don't know, but, but if it's a food, that's all more more animals

of origin vegetal. In the the fund, we'd say that one of the solutions

to this problem of the obesity, would adopt dietas that are altas in the animals of the animals,

eat more fruits, comas more vegetables, they're in day, if you ask you to ask them to the people, how many

the time the time? That's the thing that's all the time eating products of origin animal, altos in

grasses saturated, that's they can't replace for the time, to get to the time, to get them,

there's things that the people have never have tried, because the people today don't come

semilla, no come fruit secos. So, if if If you can incorporate, in the alimentation, that's the

food has a lot of food that's healthable and the consumption of the other animals ultra-processed. Well, we'll have, there's, we'll have to get to the next segment, but I want to go with the myths.

Let's talk about the most bit of the most common that we've seen in the social that they say, when when we're talking about this thing, they say, the babies need to consume milk of back and

also eggs. The kids have to consume leches and eggs. In the tele, in the commercials, it's like, leach, weas, leech, and weas, is basic for that the child thinks that it's that's associated much.

The leech, the consumption of leech has associated much to that if the children don't take leech, no, they're going to have calcium and not to have wets. That's like the typical myth. But the fact is that, no, in general, the first two years

of the day, like we said, the ideal would be that the alimentation was with lactance materna, and the lactance matthensate has all the nutrients that the children need, so that they

can get perfectly the calcio. And after the two years, in general, what is that they does is that they're not they need

to consume the of the water. They can't get the calcium of other

different of the other other options. There are many of different

and they're vegetables of and they they're they're all a much of a box, and we

have other things vegetables like the almonds the

semies of the salm, the broccoli and the repol

that also, they also they're taking milk for the

also we can also also also also of the associate the egg or the protein. It's like, if

no, it's not as a protein, that's more or less similar to the time of the carne. But the is that there's a lot of protein a vegetal, as we said a lot, the legumbrance. Some an alimentation, that one should be incorporated, habituality, so that can't afford enough proteins as much to not necessities.

So, in reality, the leech and the egg, are optional, and no, I do, I, also, the plate of Harvard, it mentioned, and also, there are many papers that about about plant in children, and that They say that in reality are absolutely optional and that the

children can grow without these animals. We're going an episode complete with the Dr. Mauricio

Gonzalez, that's called the power of the protein vegetable. And there he he profundice much in that

you know to you know to you I'm not you to think to the point of a pediatra,

this is another of the mythos. They're, ah, the protein vegetable exists,

but no is so good as the protein of the animals. And they is of

minor quality. Well, I don't know where they're this, but they're

people that's not not really, people who is like a myth of those that's that's a

in the chism popular. Yes, that's a concept super obsolete. And then it was

that the protein origin animal of the was of the natural

biological and the vegetable and the so, so so it about

this protein. This concept is obsolete, the the students

have done that the one the what you need, the

that are the structures complete of the protein. So I need each cadaverner. No, I need the protein complete, but obtain the different amino acids.

For the time, what you see is that the proteins vegetal and the animals that are all the amino acids that we need. So if I ingeer

during the day different animals of origin vegetal in an alimentation that's a that's veryada and that include many

things, I will be to be getting all the amino acids that I need, and that are of the

same quality that is the amino acion of the because it's an amino acid, is a structure that compone the protein. The only that changes is that much times it's different, and

so, one should be able to augmenting a little bit of the proteinas vegetal, because generally the legumes have other antinutrients that they're called asocied, and for so generally, always always is recommend to remodontas before, the legumbres generally be able to becould, but if one does remohant, there's no problem.

And in general, the children have a recital when they're a reason why obtain the amino acids of the legumes, of the fruit secos, of the seeds, of the cereals

integral, because they're obtaining all the aminoaceos that need. The body not distinguish if the aminoaceo comes to the

plant or of the animal. The body is to have the aminoaceo. So, for the that the cells can

functionar, he wants to do you do amino acids from where the body is to work and will

be to work and it is a concept that's super obsolete, but there are many people and people

and people that are demonstrated for the science that is obsolete so they should have to mention it.

And if you see you see a gorillas and the elephants, yeah a lot of

mammophers that are very very much based on plants, not come in carni and they're

demonstrating. In other species, there are species carnivores and there species

vegetarians and curiously the most great are the other. The other

myth is I'm have to have to come pes for the

omega three. Yes, well I don't see they of the

algas of the lot. The fishos not have omega 3 for six

solos. The people are in general have omega 3 because they're not they're

not the food because the food because the people sometimes are they

are sometimes are so because they don't they

not they not really so there's and that omega 3 in

the algas also there omega 3 in other other

elements of other animals of the seeds of the seeds of

the semies the seeds of various fruit is like the compost of the pescada, what has something is the epa-d-h-a that is to get and eat,

in case, the semis, they have to convert it in the body in EPA and H-A. That's the only difference, but in general, has seen that the conversion, although not so much it's sufficient, is sufficient for maintaining

the functions cellulares, because no has seen that there's any consequence in the health, properly, for consuming less omega-3. Yeah, no, no person that says,

if you no cemes and you comees a omega-3 vegetal, you're going to have

a lot of you're not a when one has to have a plantas, they have to eat to

the same because are the reines of the omega-3 and they can get easily our requirements

of the omega-3 from the semillas and it is necessary to consume pesk

for the doctor's. It's important, what you say that some medical and not- not-actualos

you're in this, I have been yeah vegan when a doctor in Guadalajara one has just a few

years. When you know you know you know what you with the major intention me said, Marko,

it's a good the what of the what of being but not more eating pesk because

the omega 3 and that doesn't your your brain your and you know

and I know I remember to come peskado some some many times

and then I'm and then he was and it and he did that so it

was more to 13 years of three years of that I mean not,

I'm going to give a year, but it's a doctor, that with a good idea, me the doctor,

so for that so I'm so very important to understand that as as we're not sure,

you know? That's what is what is a thing that's some thing that some not they

not really because his sexgo is this not so not so why I to study

if I'm I think that's not it's there's still, the evidence is to be there's

to continue repidient this information that we taught in the university about this 10, 15

years ago after, that's not actually, so we have to do you know, and if you know

to say, I don't know I'm specializing in this, and it's about that I'm more honest than that

more than that's an new new other myth that's my time that's in the next segment,

we're going to let's see a question, we're going to talk about the vitamin B12, obviously, it's important,

of the benefits of that a child adopt a diet based in plants, for example, at 30% or or 50%

or more, or at 80% or if there there are great differences or no, and what are some some of the

questions that you can give to the parents of how to do this transition, how to start, how to

get them metion. But there some other mytho that I've I've been in

the one, I've two shortitos. One is that if the the children not

don't have anemia, that generally is associated asocied as a little the legumbras

also the thing is that is a yearro is that a general, sure, so absorption we have to

optimize them to make sure and I'm and then a way of a font of vitamin C but the

studies demuestrains that the children not have more anemian than the

nonemian than it's a myth of because in the fund if one has a one has a lot of

probably not to have probably not to have problems to the year. And the other the

other which is a classic, that's like the soy is mala, the soyas is a bad puberty precox, the soy does cause of cancer,

because in general the alimentation in plant, is a lot of food, art of dea vegetable of soy, tempe, arto the food

of soy, that is a lot of the studies demonstrate that the soy, no produces puberty

precoce, no produces feminization in the children, is secure to consume not a cancer,

all the contrary, can get to get to the cancer of the cancer of the mother future,

and even the the nines in general, when consumed soya has a point that is more tardy than the

children that's a factor protector to future for cancer. For the time the soya is sure the the children.

The children can consume these animals and some good a super good a point of protein in this type of

of alimentation. Yeah, there's also the theme of the education. When I said vegan,

I remember that one I remember that a chica that was a book, that was, like the

the world of the side of the In-called me, that vegan, me he's so he did it, and with good intention. And then, there's to. And then I'm interred that this

book was patrocinaed, that had been, this, fonded, because for the industry of the carne. And for the industry of the economy, obviously, no, he wants to

make the money to make sure to the authors of books, they're done money, patrocina, insurcions

paid as in the periodical, in the TV. Of course, I, I, that I've in television, because many

times, you know, you could be not, you know, they were, they were the,

they were the We know that is that's that. But we don't we can't say that. Because our

partrosinator is a tal market or a supermarket that makes a carne or that's about about what you

are not the person. And soya, I'm doing that I'm going to and I'm thinking that

there was a effort that the other industries to to perjudic to the soy and create a mal

fame to because that's the point devil, no? Casy the major part of the

people to make a transition to the vegetarianism or the veganism,

it's a amounting their level of the soy. There's a whole a lot of

a lot of the soy genetically modified. Not the, I know, you know, you can't

what you do that's the guy or the GMOs famous, I know that's another thing, but your

point of your point of what you know, it depends on every kind of in the

soyas a soyas very modified, is a soyya that's a soyca that's a thing is

for the So, so, not never would never get to our

plate. No, no. In Chile, there's a lot of soy in the fond of

non-GMEO and GMO also, but what I always do to the parents is that, for example,

the meat is a processable of the soy, and that could be in the

food, is to try to to try to to be to get to the food,

the food, the in general, the majority are they're

not organics, but although not don't say non-gmeo, not necessarily

it's the origin trangenical as to the animal. So in general, we're at least in Chile,

we don't have that problem important, no, has seen that cause in effect in the health,

these other products. So it's a problem, but if the meat of soy, that's like,

I don't know, in other countries, it's like, it's like the concentrated of soy

that seems that they're doing salchichas, they're some lot of substitutes. Those are those are

those people in general we're not they processed as well and in the fund, are not so soluble. Well, we'll go to those and the benefits and

some tips to start the program. We'll make a pause. We continue with the doctor Andrea Pendola from the beautiful Santiago of Chile trying to light to this theme of the alimentation

recommendations for the children in a diet based on plants. Alimentation, good for children. We'll be able after a pause. This that we're living

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a professional of the health, a woman who dedic to the life, a science, and at

continue and investigating and investigating constantly. This is this is a talk about much in the development

personal. The theme no is, ah, yeah, I'm I'm gradue, yeah,

yeah, I've learned, no. The study and the study and the preparation is for

all the different between the people that have success in any area of

your life and the people who don't have the doctorate. It's a year. That's all. That's all.

Yeah, no, I know I'm going to do nothing. I'm going to continue studying. Always. So,

especially in medicine and in any career that scientific, the science advance very rapidly.

And so they're discovering more things, and they're to be trying to try to

to get to the day, a sometimes because one he's hard hard, but it's

super necessary to give a quality possible, because one should be

always from from the evidence, not from the experience personal, and from our questions.

So, we're going to let mehys you, I'm going to rematches, with benefits, with recommendations,

to talk about a little of supplement, is to say, I know you can't do you know,

and right at the doctor, and we're going to localize for the the momas

that want to want a and want an assororial in a little bit in a

minute- in what For example, that's the lactancy, menores possibilities of obesity. But what other benefits are for a new when it starts to augment the percentage of the elements based on plant?

And if there's a difference between to do it, 50, 80, and 100%. Well, the benefits principal are that's been seen that's been that's going to be the risk of having infermenaries

coronary to future. The risk of having diabetes melitus type 2, the risk of being pertenos, the risk of obesity diminue with this type of alimentation,

the risk of some of the risk of some of cancer. And in general, it's been in the examines, like, the same thing, when they're people with this type of alimentation, they're

less level of glucose, that's the sugar in the blood, they're less level of LDL, which is the cholesterol classical, that the people say the cholesterol mal or that tap

the arteries, well, they're more LDL in the blood. And in general, so perfilat metabolic is a very good of

view of the health is super beneficial. If there's an, obviously, there's a difference if one consume a 10%,

a 20%, a 50%, or a 50, 100%, because the food is a good one would say is the ideal

to make one to go to go to do to get to the community, is an food percent based in plants,

so that are that are animals of origin vegetal, like you just we have fruit, vegetables,

legumbres, semillas, cereals integrals, and fruit secos, like all this type of

alimentation, is the foodable that is always when it always when it's

when it's the animals are super-bash-boggles, in levels like inflammatory. So, the animals of origin animal tend to produce a level inflammatory, systemical in the body and in the

same thing that is the that we predispone to many other and the food-based in plants, and more, the microbiota,

we've discovered, you also, we've got a a chapter on the podcast, about the microbiota, that's,

it's, it's, it's, it's also for the health, that's a lot for the health, a lot of a food,

a food, a food, a plantas is perfect now the microbiota. So, it's very benefits. Well, but now, then recommendations, if I were a papy, and supponial

that you'd have here, a mom, and we'd come here and we'd say, doctora, no say nothing, and me da' me do you, how do I'm, give me those recommendations general to start this way, so basic, basic. The first would be how planifical the transition, how planificals to be, say, yeah,

we're going to do this transition, we're going to supervise for someone that know, and to get a little, part of the end of the

food, we're going to get a little, trying to consume more legumbres, as I'm saying, in a bit of

the one day a time, try to that it's two, three a time, and to

get used to get a microbiot to this fiber new, and try, and try, and try, that the

plato that one arm, has a great quantity of fruit, verduras, and to reduce,

in the the other things that are the other things that are the the products of origin animal, because I don't know if they've been

fixed, but the Ditas Occidental are like 100% based on animals. No, there's an equilibrium. So, intent that that 100% going to be going to the percentage of the animals of origin vegetal, aggregating more

fruits, aggregating more vegetables, and to be replacing these animals of origin animal for animals of origin vegetal. That is like the most basic,

as to start, like, to a little, to go, to incorporate the food. It's like the system

solar, the system solar, the solar, the solar, the sun is the center

and the world around in this culture that we're the animal is the

center. It's the petchuga of the poe or the little reds, the pedas,

the bird of the or the thing, the pesters, the so the

and around it's the arreididdle, a sometimes the fries, a little little bit

some little letchugias that they're these things what is that's what is that they're

they're trying three lechugas and two rebanadas of of hithomate that's like they're going to put the avocado and you put

an rebanadita of an avocado oh yeah I'm you'll give me my avocado and they're getting to get me

get me to get me one or you or how they say paltah palta yeah

but so so then so you're so you're saying is that the center the center not the

the pedasso of animal so not like insults but the center is the protein but vegetable. Exactly.

That's not that it's all the day to start. One can't do the transition and get to get used to get used to

the change of the food and it's used to the other other. And the other that's super

important is that if one is that you want to not replace for ultra-processed veganos,

for example. It's like a hamburgerza vegan than in the time. In the

the transition a that has benefits obviously environmental and for the animals but in the health no will have to have major repercussion here the important is opting for

food more natural original, that is like a wolf food plant-based diet in the fund so for that we interest us those fruits, the vegetables and

the vegetables of like you say the lechuga so, broccoli, coliflor to adder all the verdures that exist

repoes, spinacas, cal, chamins, a lot more ample as possible. And now, and I'm going to

pendent of the dulces that we're in the segment earlier or when the first when you say, oh, yeah, well, the

little bit more, oh, what do you do you know, why it has been to a piece empaquetada processed, and ingredients of origin animal?

Why not can't be a mango delicious? Doolse, mango delicious. I don't know how they say in Chile,

but the mango is equal, but the dathes is the same? Dattiles is the same thing? that are, I mean, not you're saying

that you're not going to come as a lot of datil before I'm going to eat at night, because I'm engordered, coming datil in the night, because it's concentrated on many calories. But are delicious. If you want a dulce, right? Why not take the dulce of the natural? That could be another recommendation, like, basic, for, to

start the transition? If the people have to meo, the fruit, no, it's like the fruit engorne, the plantarer engord, the manzana engorda. It's like, no, the fruit, is full of fiber, has a pic glycemic, much more more low than the dulces, because it has

fibrous associated. For the time, if someone wants to come something else, the children eat less fruit than what they

should be more, three fruit all day, no pass nothing. If it's remplace all those those

those foods that come for fruit, no problem. The fruit is a super good food.

It's a way to re-acustum to the part of the people, because the children sometimes the food,

but the ideal would be incorporated three fruit diaries, more parts of four portions of the

verdurals. The ideal is that are seven to eight portions between fruit of vegetables, for the less. Because in part of the children have other, other necessities. Those children need an ingest more health than the adult, no? Because

they're getting more calories. It's that it's that. It's like, because in the stages of high-crecement, so, you obviously, for so, always, for so, whenever one can't, uh, whether one, uh,

can't, uh, can't give them, uh, can't put up those macros, the micronutrients are to be covered, if it's that the alimentation is, if it's, that the alimentations like super varied.

If they're that they're like fruits, vegetables, vegetables, all the legumbrose and they're all the

food that they're going to have all the nutrients that they need. And that's that you're going to be

changing with time. One of the things that me me preoccupies that we don't per

those Latin Americans, say that you're in the States that we've that culture of the fruitas.

A man of a hotel and you're in the buffet of restaurant, all the

fruit deliciousas can't be some those food deliciouses. That's

no exist in the United. That culture that you get to the hotel Hyatt,

Hillton, to Marquis, all the Four Seasons. No you can you find

a buffet delicious of fruit no find the fruitas that you find you

find out of our America Latina. We have a culture to our

our food the the mama, the papaya the mango, the daltil. No

per He says, oh, no, the fruit not is food. If I'm a bowl like a huge of fruit, that's not a good. I'm going to be

the world. So, then we're in the culture American. I don't have anything in contra, the United.

I'm here. There are things positive of this country, but there things and one of the

food is the food. So, for the love of God, we're our

not we're that we're that we have the before the people to get them to

conquer the what now is America Latina, that we We had that connection with the earth and our fruits so delicious, no, doctor?

Yes, and, also, I find that, for the least in Chile, the fruitas are baratas, or so, respect to to the price of the people, it's more expensive. No, it's that a lot of foodst, no, the legumbrance, the fruit and the vegetables, are the most barrens, they're, like, are much more baratas than the

kind, for example, that the processed or the packet of frit, so, even for price, it's a little is a excuse, it's that I'm not, is that I can't buy fruit. I'll give, whatever fruit, All the fruit is good. And the kids

can, by the point of the issue of the issue of the issue, obviously, is pediatra? Is it a bit of a

diet based on plantas from the next? Yes, the children can be, well, the moms and

they say, like, they're like, they're not because the momas yeah,

they're in the time, and then when they know, obviously, all the first the

six months, the is the last thing, so the all the if they want to be able to an alimentation based on plantas.

And there, in the fond of the food of the food's, there's a lot of that's good good and in general it's been seen that in the growth

and the development are exactly like the children are very not there. I'm going to ask for the papillas,

no, that they're going to get them to these boys, I think still still existent, no, no, no,

Gerber, not, was the mark, and I remember that I remember that I'm remember that was very

So, and I've seen the etiquette and has it's, it's, the papilla in the botecito

of the gerber or of those or what is the difference versus to do the papilla of food,

and the always is doing the one is to make one of there's a while there there's

there's in this fracco of vidio that are naturales that not that are the children

not the children, not they'd not should not that's not that's not

that's sugar, because in the fond of the paladar to this stimuler to get a time.

But, it's always it's a better. That's the food with the ingredients known that one

knows and the most natural possible, without any additives, and even they put an

some addivable to some adderative to these collas, so, so, like,

so it's sometimes, if they're in some part and they don't have to come to

eat to eat, but in general, the the better, always is planification and make the food to the house. There's the key. Before, after the two years,

nothing that has sugar and salt, because you start to give to the child, a food, food, or they're processed-a-old, or they're in chemicals, and then so, so, it's atrofia of the broccoli, and not you want to eat a friol, or everything, or all, yeah, the only that you want is, sal and sugar,

and you're just giving to your sentence, with the while will have to live the rest of his life, and, at the more, battle in the future going to a therapy psychological and

with the nutriologist and with the food we're in the food that we're doing this because from the year, I said

that's it and I'm visualized I'm doing the new I'm there's a man there's there's a

me they're doing a me they're I'm just I'm sure that Gerber never we're never we're not

that this podcast yeah the important is that the part of the power is

that one is no it's no it is that the to eat with nothing, but if one starts a little to introduce these things,

credame that can train to the paladar and that then you can get to make. All we can change. The regal

more great that your child, to your kids, me is to be all the dulces, is darles

a paladar and a microbiota and food and food and prevent to get to

the problems of obesity and diabetes and of addictions for the food and the

anxiety. It's a grand regal that you can visualize when I

I heard. Yes, I think it's the best a more more. It's a whole of the

children. The children have the habits that are the parents. So, if the parents

start to change their habits, the the children, the people are the family.

Some supplement to start some some supplements that vitamin B12, the famous I'm

supplemented with B12 since that was super carnivor. My mom used B12

because it was a conferenceist and was a b12 and when I started

to try to me ensignoed and now as a veganito then I'm like a lot of my exam

the doctorate. The doctorate me says, no, you need a need a second. So I'm excesso of B12 because

me supplemented well, but you can recommend you? But you're super important. All the people, the children,

the children and the children who get to be an alimentation with B2 because the B2 the B12, because the B2 not is

of origin animal, it produces bacteria. And the B-12 is in products of origin animal today because supplementing to

the vases, and the other before they're because pasted in the earth but the vegetables not they're not. So when one

decides, you know, an alimentation in plantas, has to be super responsible, planifical, organize, and

to start to supplementar to be-2. In the the children, this is fundamental because the B-12 has

many functions in the world, both for adults and for children, and in the the children have much

relation with the development of the system nervous. For the so if a child gets a patient who has a lot of

a lot of plantas, but not receive B12, can't have a neurological severe,

irreversible, can be convulsionate, can alter their disorder, so a child, if a

mom, decide that a time, if a or si, or so, it has to

give to evaluate, to use, the B12. Yeah? At the the end of the use in polo,

in got, the presentation that is in a case, it's for via oral, not like the adults that generally some of those injections,

the children, the presentation is different. And this is used for all the life. And something super important that you mention to, a lot of times when one does examines of levels of B-12 and they're normal, it doesn't mean that one has to supplementars.

Only it just means that, thanks to the supplementation, one maintains levels normal, and that the supplementation should be maintained for all the day in that doses. If it's that deficit, the dosy is much major, so for that also

also, also, also, also, also, also, also, too, is important to take the levels, to know how is one. And the vitamin B2 is super secure. It's a vitamin

that is hydro-soluble, for the time, it's eliminate in the urine, the excess. So, in the worst of the case, if you tomas an excess, as you said, you're going to eliminate it for the urine. No, it's a supplement super secure. For the time,

if you get a alimentation based on plant, for favor, v. V. V.S., that's a doctor, , v. A.O., because they're in a B-12, because the deficit is demoral to appear in no intentany, not not from a day for another. It's

It can take one year, two years, five years. It's super variable. So, as it's so variable, one will be going to be able to be a B-12. No, there's to take the B-20. And for the children is fundamental because, if not, your crescento is a only supplementer of all the children.

So it's not of the animals. It's not of the bacteria, the vases, the v. And all when pasted, like in the ranchitos, that the v. he's liming the pasto and he's lamiened the the pasto and he's the

he's coming the B-12 of the year and there's that comes the animals now when the people were not hyper-limpegivable the fruit and the verdurias and

those cochiners and pesticides that they put on today and that the COVID now, the more t'artit we're to relavars when we didn't

we'd be able a life more natural, also the also we we'd be the vitamin B-12 of that the

that yearita it was very it's very common that the people's just for coming that you

you're you're just and I see, I see, I see, I see, I veerny, a my perrito also, that's, that's a form natural, that you're going in some form, certain cosillas that are in the, in the

earth, no? But today, yeah not is so, because the people, the people, of a moment, say, ah, but you're going to have to have to supplementarty, so how you're going to get this alimentation? But in reality, the carne also is that's supplemented, the person is that the people don't know what is, and

the person, it's, and it's, it's, it's to take the supplement that's a back. And, and, in reality, to take a

supplement a daily I'm going to the minimum versus all the benefits that we're talking about, that's the not only

in the moment of now, but the health of future. So, these children can't be able to

and they're un-uptuels of yerro, no, the yearro, the year, you can't be the

different, the year, in Chile, for example, the norm ministerial indicates that that all

the children, between the four years, After that, after the year in Chile, when the children get an alimentation based on plants, depends. If it's that they have their levels

normal, no need supplement to yerror, no need supplement to calcium, no need any other supplement. And the omega-3, in reality, no, there's much consensus if there are to take supplement, no. The embalasas and the mothers

in lactancy, if they have to take supplement omega-3, also the B-12, but the children could have obtained from the alimentation. So, the only

supplement, so, the regular, for all the children is the B-12. Yeah, okay. Also, you've got, you've got to

do you get a first vegetarian and now you're going to get a lot? Has 21 years that I'm doing this year.

Yeah, in that time no way nobody knew that. I was the I was the bit more rabe

because you were doing, because you're doing to make eating to eat meat, well, so it's

so I'm going to so much time yeah, and so I'm a little three years

that I did a very good felicit Oh, something that has asked,

some any other recommendation, that I have asked, and I'm you know that you can't

get a little bit of a lot of more than more based on something that's, always supervise with a

professional that's ever planificing with time and simply supplementarce with B12, even the

people, sometimes need B2 so, so, not create that because they're

eating pesk they're there's there's there's there's there's there

when you consulten with a professional, put your hands at the back to the car and

they'll consult with a professional like you. Because the people, much people want a

pediatra that they recommend and they'll get in the way in the diet based on

and you do you get to internet in whatever on the planet

on where you can't you can you can't in my Instagram

the pediatra vegan that is my that is my account that I

know much about the B12 for that you don't get any there

there can have me can send a message if they need. There, even, where I say consulta, there's all the stories of how I pedicryana in Instagram. Any other, no, does sitas for a corretre electronic,

or not, the people that say, no, in general, in where I work, there's a secretary that is a secretary that, I'm, to see a pediatra vegan for that,

to be able to keep up in their education and the, and, and, you know, you know, who consultar when they're

a lot of situation. And obviously, a large distance the examines of any kind of whatever stuff, you're doing

you're doing a lot of the job of the person and you're not you know, so you know, the time of personally to

be a doctor is an option. And for the pandemic has been this possibility to do teleconsulta like using

Zoom, like it was a thing that that's a that's a that's a that's much that we can

get to how we can how we can't but but for the problem how is

The question is the part where you have to talk or be, no, no, we can do a examin physical for Zoom. That one can

look at the camera to see that the little bit more that has a disorder psychototor normal, but the examines physical or medical

no you can't do you can't do it for Zoom. So, in general, what we do we live in Santiago,

that no me can't be to be presential, they have to have even have a particular,

and they're an piece and a tuesday, and me can, that's a time, so I'm, I said,

I'll be, let's see, that's good. It's a complicated. It's a complicated. Doctora,

much, much, much, thanks, I'm a brother to all the people of

Chichichi, Le, Le, Viva, Chile. Cuyate much and thanks for having been being the podcast for

first occasion and I hope you you'll be soon. No, much thanks for

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some words chilterns, like Pololo some of voculario clasical for learning us Pololo and Pololo

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come pronto Yapo. Echate a phrase, etchate a a despeded very Chilean

like you like you're like your family and all the so just that's there's

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get to you know you're in the school with your friends and you know yeah

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