El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 181 - Cómo curar un corazón roto - Gaby Pérez Islas

Episode Date: August 27, 2021

¿Has sentido que tu corazón se rompe al sufrir una pérdida? Cuando perdemos a un ser querido o terminamos con una relación de pareja o de trabajo, sentimos que nuestro mundo se viene abajo y nos preguntamos si volveremos a ser felices y salir adelante. Estos tiempos han sido de muchas pérdidas y Gaby Pérez Islas, experta en tanatología, nos acompaña para darnos un poco de luz en el camino y descubrir cómo curar un corazón roto. ¿Qué puedes aprender? Cómo manejar el dolor tras sufrir una pérdida. Cuáles son las etapas del duelo y cómo las puedes identificar. Cómo trabajar la culpa y el sufrimiento de perder a un ser querido. Sigue a Gaby Pérez Islas en sus redes sociales: Instagram: Gaby Tanatóloga Facebook: Gaby Tanatóloga Web: gabytanatologa.com.mx  La gratitud puede ser bálsamo para el dolor. Te invito a vivir mis 21 Días de Gratitud:  https://hotm.art/Sp-Gratitud Únete a mi canal de Telegram: marcoantonioregil.com/telegram 

Dear family, the peridities, as we know, have many rams, that dolor of a person of our

health, of the family, of a family, of a a perrita or catito or catito

that's been part of our family, of a work, of the stability economic.

Those peridas, when occur, we think we think we think we're we're

we're not over, and we sometimes our starts to believe that we are not to never

to never to be never to be happy? We'll be happy after this? There's a

way to retomar our lives and start from that we're the energy to get us

to get us this expert in the time, came to give us with much a more

a support to be to get to get to a heart

to episode 181 we'll, we'll, The podcast of Mark Antonio Regil is a production of RGL Entertainment and all his

rights are reserved Gabi Perezislas is a master in tanatology with specialities in codependency and family, logotherapy,

spirituality, and Suicidology. Gabi does consegeria tanatologic to people in process of duelo as

as infirmes terminales. It's conferencist motivational for companies, colleges, and institutions. Impart,

tarriers over duelo to all the Republic Mexican and the United Forma part

of the Council Medical of Fondation Cima. Also, is author of various

books like Convence me to live. Elige not to have your your way

to run. And how curing a heart. Gabby Presislas is in the podcast.

Gabi, thanks for to be with us on this podcast. So important

is the thing I think more we're more they're because, well, the

world, there's in the world, according to four. Three million of the fallacied,

nothing more with the situation of the COVID. So, tristently, all we're doing much more affected because

there's more people who is going of this planet. So, thanks for to be with us, Gavie.

Oh, I'm happy to be with all your audience. Thank you, Mark, for

to care this time and get to all the people, in effect, the tanatology has

been a sabbatica in this moment. All we need to know the duel, because the duelo provienes of a change that you no want to. Nobody has been to a therapy, never with mego, because they gave a better sullgo, because

he changed a better house. The duelo comes of the change, no desired. And, already, well, we're just we're simply in a duel collective for the world, as we know we're not. So, so there's absolutely

nobody that no need this podcast the day of day of today. Well, I I'm going to the entry. So, you can sanar that

heart? Because so, because so we know we're, when we're, a brother, a man, a man,

a man, a man, a man, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,

person, a, it's, it's, so, so, so can, can be

to be, to be to get, to be a person, totally, because you know,

you, a large, the The love pesa more than the And the image that I want to that everyone has been in the

case, is that a heart that's not a pedas, it's able and it's more love.

In that moment that's open and it is more we're able to learn the memory of who not

is that that you have been because you know, because, according to the

tanatology not is only the death of one person. You can have been my

emotions, could have been the love, could have I've been the work

that I had. It's all type of perthia. So, so you're

so you can't. If you have a more fructant of the life, I'd

be a testigo of the but not could do anything and

I'm and I know, I'm so I'm so I have lived,

the most part of the people we've been that

that that that that doesn't you know the life

yeah not will be here is broken something that not

will be going to be and it and it's a mind in the dialogue for what I'm

it's it's not the thing this is the question and they are all the

questions that are the of the dual and I think that one one

is that not to make the the can't my car

in my little per no no so no

he said you when the when the the heart can

come can also there I coincide with you, and I think, Mark, I do know, without a doubt, I've heard your platicate. I think all that we've heard. And I know perfectly that this is a thing

that's an issue and that's not you're trying from the theory. You have vivid on carnepropea the pern of a being of a being loved or of being very dearer for you. And here you are, looking with resilience, honer your memory.

Because this is a point that's not we can't forget. You, I without you I can't live and even you know,

and even you're that you're you're you're in you're in to learn to be in

this world without without the object of your and then the omelage that I

don't live without you or you are all for me respond to more to

a co-dependence than a more to a good factura so it is the moment

of the period the time in that one demuestra of what you're done you've done to do more for the long

of the duel to be able to someone with more than more than more than I remember. I remember that when I was four or five years, the day that you're

I'm gonna do the day of my car, I mean I'm saying, oh my mom and my mom said, oh my amor, chiquito, no me digas

that, all of be good, I'm going to get to get much for to me mure. And my

mom, well, he was, he's, like, look, Mark, Antonio, but those

ideas that that are the kids, to get in green, to the hour that's the way of the thing, it's all

all, I mean, I don't, no, I mean, I'm like, I'm going to, but if I'm,

that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, so that's doing, how,

continue- live, can be a , a man- to be, there, there,

there, there, there, there, there, there's, there's different, we're,

we're, we're, we're, as you do Facebook, when you want to you get your new messages that you refresh, well, you have to do do it, because,

you know, that's the time, at the two years, a those three years, without your mom, probably if you're because the cachorro human is the animal

more inutil to be, to be able to live to so to at an time time. So, if there was

a moment of your life, in the you need to, you need to, you need to a mom, to survive,

But today, no. But you need to actualize your mind to know that I want to live with you and I'd like that you'd be in this world, it was a lot more

but even since you, I can't go ahead. And in your case, as the case of many of the kids, yeah was more a time of a child,

to care, more you to her, that she really to be able figures very important, cast and quasi,

almost, and monarchics in our life, where I think that I think I'm not going to power, how do I go. And there is the

discovery of day to day, to give a day, to be down to get up to you're going to philosophar, you're going to

to the life. Since we're not going to start in form regressive. We know we we're going to

do it. We're going to do you. But, we don't talk much of that we're we're doing,

we're making, no? No, we're not we're not we're not when someone says,

me go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not,

don't, do you say, cruus, cross, mado, mack, Tocomadera, exactly, no? No, no we're

not we're prepared, but the question is, if we can prepare, there are, there's tools, to confronts the pervades? Can you one prepare

for the murder? No, no, there's a vaccine against the if in the bottom what you're saying is,

Gabi, there's a way of that has been a minute, the response is no, for the

question, no, no, there no, there no way that's, but we're be formed,

if not prepared, because this is something that always happens, we're sure of a single cost in the life, we're

sure that we're to die. But, ante the certidum of that we have we're to be the uncertainty,

by what, under what circumstances? So the death always will be a surprise,

even a person, and be in a firm, and it's when finally suddenly succeed,

but how at the final, all was very rapid, no, it was not was

how I thought, you'll be, but if you you can't form to understand this. And the tannatology, the area of

the work in the area of the emotional is a way, to find out of to help me, to get you, first with the head and then

it's 30 centimeters more to the heart. And that distance takes time to recorrent. It's so so much.

So the the dolor natural of the perid is inevitable. That's part of the suffering.

I'll change the question. We can't prepare to manage that when you get? Oh, so,

for suffering less? Thank you. Thank you. For not say, me, that's not you've

not you the duration of the suffriment is what is the

in your mind Marro there what you do you do you do you

care to do you know how I amed with how time I'm

to get to there is the error me said a

other day in consult I go I'm to

I'm to the last the last the last the last the last the

last time you said well so for that is the most is the same, no? No, no is the same.

Amar to cry. If I am I am to someone, I'm going to go to be a good, I'm going to

be able to that person who had been that would have that would be that would mean so that's

so we need to get to the drama cultural that sometimes we have in our

country in Mexico of that nobody me has never made to do

my people because I am so I'm so that I with every

thing that's what's the and how not I'm going to suffer if my

mom and how he's the society that I want to my wife to be what you

know, you know, you know, that's that's that's that you have to

honor the person for your life. And if you I'm

to do you I think to the question, to have said, that you have been

to dole that to do to do your mom, you would have preferred

not to know to have never another with evitart the

suffering? No. Sure that no. Because if it's a price that you have to

pay, for having it's been, you know you pay. For that expression of the pain,

your mom was the pain, I don't with much respect, the my

also, valiered the pain that we did and the pain,

the the the loss of the not for having the

money. My mom value the and many things

that have I've been worth my abelos, the perrits that's

me have been gone those people who have been either sure, so,

yeah, if the price, if the recompenses okay, no, there's

not have lived, preferes not ever those know, because there's

there there a formula for those who want to get to

how they do to do the way, okay, put some

there putte, putte some want to putte doants of cirujan no

toque you don't talk to nobody, you know you know, blind your heart and met them in a cajita

of crystal for that you know, no, no you know, you know, you have relations significative,

not you don't, you know, you know, you know, then so, it's not suffer,

but you don't know you're, you're going to do you, and when you get to give to

your heart, what you you're to say, the being a being a this is

here's my my heart you know, it's not quite he, nobody me he's, and why

you think you I said, I said, I said, I wanted to I wanted to you know, I'd like you

know, so you know, it's not it's not a postia, well- well- it's not

because it's that we're like to you're like a- an auto with the yantas

newas. Here are these are the yentas new ones I'm don't do the

new-s- But it was to manage it. No, no, no. But, but you know, we know, we're saying, we're reimb, but so we've seen with my patients to get

the house of those papas or, no, I see, when someone died, and I went to work without preeners, perfummene,

sin-usar, things that are in a paper rosas, in the cajong of the leensery for an occasion special.

When the life is, the life is, then there to screener the things, there's to use them.

There are people who have in your house, there's those they're

not, I'm don't know when I'm when I'm know, you know, it's

because it was created for you to use it and you do it for a flowerer.

But the life like us us us didn't the

people, we're to do all to to use to to do

to this life and if we we're going to

do it the past of the time, complete a submission. Complier's unition. I'm going to when I'm rio, the other day in a podcast anterior,

where we're talking of this there's, there there's a person who's and they're and what you do you're

and they're you're saying about the murder. For me to be a form of a power of

power. We're talking about something of something about something that's super serious, super-doroso

obviously to talk to be all my part of my part of the is like a form

to alivianar this conversation to put a and if I'm rio, no me I'm not really it's like

it's almost like you're it's other form of that's a way of the in the funerals and all the people start

to tell chis and the ria is a scapatory a little the risa said our great German of this

is symbol inexhivocal of intelligence because one knows when what is living is a

lot of and the mind needs a escape so it's totally

saner in my conferences Marko always that I'm a conference the

people say we have a conversation this is a serious

not not and don't and they are really

they're so because no there don't because not

there things just what I want to I'm dedicated 24

years is to create culture of the duelo. Because in effect no we're about this, because the thing we put nervous, us put

bad. In the moment that really we can't talk, we're going to talk, we can't record a someone with more love than the dolor. So, have we've done. Have we elaborated the duel and has gone to the other side of the tunnel to say, here I'm

costed a job, but I can't go to smile. And you have some carcathas, hermosas. All them, we love this rita, that us has made to pass too when you

do you do you know, when you do you do you're because the reason we're that we're

that we're not really, and then you see you and I'll so you'll and I'm and I'm

so I'm sorry we're desos and sedient of reels. Thank you and you and you're and you're

normal. It's part of the life. Now I want to let me talk about the duelo,

what is the duelo? And also mention us a what is this cultural,

the murder and the dole, not is the same for a Mexican than a Canadian

than a fanlendez that for a Spanish or a when my mom felleceo

I was in a course post-graduation in the University Santa Monica

Psychology Spirituali and my my my master doctors in

psychology Ron and Mary Holnick me said and no there was

there I want to you want to you you me,

they're saying, not is the same, Mark Antonio, you're you're in a culture emotionally

very intense. No is the same that you to you to go from the world physical your mommy

that for us to us not that's not the people, our parents, so culturally the duels

we live different and we're of different nationalities and why to be to be

to be the latitude there. The people the people that is more calida,

the people who we're more of connections, other nationalities, other places, other places, you know, don't understand why

we're paying us because the figure of the abuela or the abuelo in the families, you know, but why, if you just are grandes,

yes, but one, no, no, they want them and for greats, nor do you

want them because are your abuelos, in the family Mexican. Every member of the family has a

particular, and if not for it sufficient, we do we're for that, there's a

comrade, no, and there's the padrino and the madrina and we're making a family,

because we're families, tritement, we're not, a lot of, you think, you're saying, and I'm

a megano for who's in other countries, and it's, it's a little that's,

are made, so, are cubits of the so, so much meat, no,

but when when you run, uh, so, so, no, no,

do it, do it, do it, no, no, no, pegs, they're broken,

they're they're when they're when they're when they're exactly. That's the family and we're going to.

we're going to we're going to we're going to and the age that they're making this newcels and the family's ironsor and we're going to

them's around of them. We're we're we're backers in your house and so so it

so it that we're not we're that's any kind of I'm but the Mexican

Gabi she's the marie the she says the name of a

little and she he they're they they're they're they're

they're they're they're they're they're they're memes for those we're

but but no the movie cocoa but but but

but not we we're No, Mark, Antonio. Reimms of her to let her

but we're not we're not we're not we're not doing because in the fond of we have much

fear to how I go to get me to ask me the other part of the question

what is the duel? The duel is a process adaptative to my new

reality after after after after then then so all

the cumul is a process adaptative to my new

reality after after having a perth. The formula is very simple.

I'm I'm know. That dolor me will get in a process

called a process of duels for the different stages and it's a mountain

rusa of emotion. After I, I don't have no this

so I'm so that so I can't decide something when it when it

doesn't you can decide if that you can to do to

to be done with the sabiduria, because you're to pass a through the pain or you're to get to

get a basure emotional, evading the duelo, and that's you do it. So, you know,

you know, but if you do you do you, you'll do you do you know. What do you

have in common this and your dreams? Well, this is a one of a football

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don't know you can just you're going to expulsar of the game. And that is just what what's suede with your dreams when you know know where to start. Or your mind

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tapas of the duel? Fittsate that you know because now are six.

Now are six because the disciple of Elizabeth Kubler-Ros, a woman marvellous

that we have to mention because is the mother of the panatology.

Julio past would have completed 90-tant years but now

no- yet- no- young of the most influential of the

year. She said said that were five those identified in the

His work and investigations that they did extensive to the familyaries of the infirm terminal and also to any person

that's in a process of the duke. And then David Kessler, that was his disciple, he,

he, he, he, he's, the authorization of the Fubbler

Ross, the his son, Elizabeth, Kubler Ross, he did, he could use the name

as the next the next the death of the duels. The last, yes, the first is the

negation. It's the, no It's not true. How is possible? No, no, no. But here I'm here.

No, I don't know I don't accept that's happening. No, no, no. This is not not going to be going to be a result to

opinion. No, it's a mechanism of your own your own brain, your psyche, you know, that's not

you're not not you're not you'll be low or not you'll be recompense. Yes, the negation is also when

literally when someone is not so is entering in an age,

yeah very adult and is going mentally, or physically you're not you're

not you don't you're not you don't know those these moments very dramatic

not only in the death. I've been a member of my family for respect

no I don't know where the rest, one part of the family they said they're

not they not they they're not they the guys the guys the the

guys for satisfy to the family to this, he's a

no, no, to be, a bit, but it's a more, but it's a love,

it's, it's, for favor not you do you know, it's an act desperate, but it's

negation. It's negation. Because you have, you know, you know, that your people,

are going to be certain, they're going to have all these and it's a gritty of this no,

you know, I'm not you know, I'm not you're not, no, for favor

I'm, I'm, you know, I'm, that you were and we're no we're oh, and so you're just, you know, you're to repeat, to be, how to get you to forget, concentrate

and even more, we're getting to the malpracto for not care to accept the pass of the time and the deterioro of faculties. You're all the reason. That's a negation. Very well.

And that's, and that's a level of suffering of who, and of the person that's there, that also, that also, because you're feeling that's going,

that's going, of some, but, but, the ultimate that's the stepation. The duelo is

the recorried from that negation to get to the ultimate that is the acceptation. So,

first you need you, you know, when you start, when you get to make sense that's

you're going you're in Ravis furious, with who, with who can't get, you know, you're not with

the infirm, you know, you knows with God, you knows you knows with you not you

got to you that retroflexion of the enoho is called a culp,

and you culp, you're you're you're in this step so why,

there are all the why he's why he's because he's this way, every

that you think you think you you know, you know, identifications that you this is an

step that's not it not it not it's not it God

me because okay okay I'm and then and remember

and remember that these not they're not you

back you many many many many Bees and the

Corrence. Exactly. Monta Russo of emotion. The third step is the negotiation.

It's when you start to trance with the life. I mean, let you do it. A bit, let's be

well, I'm going to eat, I'm going to take me to talk, I don't say that I'm to say

to nobody more. Okay, I'm going to accept that this is going to but now

now I'm a day to do that with the life. The targetas the credit are not a negotiation,

the medicine alternative. all with what you you think you can't you can't get a

in the life for that this is but that is going to not you're not going to not you're

not going more than you're going to because it's that you can you can you can't

you can't you can't let you go to get to negotiate to be let's let's

I'm going to let's I'm let's go ahead two a more and yeah

never never has never has never been that when it So, so it's

Okay. After the negotiation, then it's going. Viener the depression. But, oh, the depression

that's because just the negotiation, not came to you know, you know, you got the prorrogue

that you're of good negotiators, but not you got you. So, then you deprimed.

But the depression in the duel is a depression reactivate. It's you're saying,

reaction with depression for having pergid to be the object

to the effect. Not necessarily is a chemical or biologic, and no

you need to take antidepressives a less of the less of you know, you

can't, if we're equipped with what we need to need to get to the

problem, the of the problem, is a problem, that you

is a sequest, if it's a suicide, if it's a, no, a disappearance,

could appear anti- natural you, you see what you do you

do, so, no, we have to fugarns to fugitives and antidepressives and anxiolitical a men,

that you have recetated a psychiatrist. Not a anatologist, because the canatologists not recetam not recetable.

It has been a psychiatrist expert in these things of depression and when a depression now is

reactive and it's reactive, and you just a question, is myth or reality that depending of the

circumstances of the peridid, the depression should be more intense or can be less intense, is to say, if you're

an advanced, well, of some way, it's natural. So, my papa, my mom, my abelos,

well, they're going to go. But at the other way, someone, he's a man,

a man, someone who's maybe a death, is more great, the depression? No,

necessarily because not just who who's only what you're when you're when you're that person

or that that's a person, or that's a I've known users, so they call to

the patients in tanatology that collapse because he's a man other person

insensible could say oh, oh, it's a man, are there are

not, are the because that perr not a person, that's

a family, that perrower that's the person was your because

so that's the person was the thing he was he was the

he was a car, a a measure. You have to do it.

The tanatology not the generalities but you're particularities, in each case. Finally, in the

tapas Cubber-Ros has the Cepsacion. It's when you say, it's what it's,

and you start to start to this new step to say, okay, it's so it's

how it resignifico in my life, how I'm going to how I'm this,

you know that's that's that's that's that's that's But I want to work with this

to grow, to demonstrate that I'm a amyamante and not a carbon. When you somet, that pressure, it's a pulverized. I can't continue ahead

because I've learned of you and you're going to appreciate also the presence of that person in your life,

like I said, the is the price of the absence is what that you have to pay for having to

have you pay. And you do you do you say, that you des like a life to the life. No

it's like what what happened or what's the best of or that's the thing you know, it's like you know,

like the little bit of your life and decide to go to the fact that we're a realer acceptation

yeah is the point of no regress but this takes time because no there's no delos

of microondas and duels and no it's just yeah that you're dead yeah I'm you're all

to work and to to continue Adelaide and here no that's no, that's me

preoccupy much much it's a question, my question, my friend the

name the name of the life and that's that way to give to a place to

a person more resilient more empathic with the other and the second

chapter of the that you talk about the David Hitler is the

busk for much of us for many of this chapter

to the school of Victor Frank that is, well,

to decide with with what attitude in front you know that's, you know, your perdida,

Marco, no has a significate. What you do with the perid is what you have done.

It's what you know, because how me chock that the people to say, that you

know, because something, for something, you know, they're done, you know,

I'm a little because it's very, it's very delicate, there's a line

very finita. So, me I'd like to elaborate more in that. Yes, because,

look, one has the option to extract the thing to do you know, and you know,

to learn of what you know, but no that's, I'm going, I'm not, I'm doing

a lot to do you so it's a way, so it's a operas the world. The

things pass. And you can't express significate and you can't make you're in the librileadry

marvellouso that we can't do not to change and continue being a person superficial or banal

and also not necessarily the perid the period but you decide if you can be for good

to change for bad or no you can be and I can't and I can't and I can't decide

I'd say preferrier that this no has been I'm really,

me irritate, me entriste and never, God, universe, I'm myself,

if there's something to learn to learn something, I'm not, I'm not I'm

want to be to be it for, like, Victor Frankl, the of the

person, the right, to find to this, to find to find a little

to finder a piece or every that's to be so, I can work

a lecture voluntarily But that's different to to believe that that someone to make a question. There's that

this is that this in the life are some proofs that they're not there's time and God to give to

give to give us to say oh, oh, well, what's this? No? No,

it's, no, it's not, that they say, to you know, to give to

God, God, God is so it's a moment to come to come to someone,

but not they'll have to to dole, what we're doing with this episode of the podcast, what I intend to

do with my books, that we know the realities of the life and the mind of this mental and not this

you're, I'm not you're, because no you're, because no you're not you're going, oh, so on this

the pain, no, you know, because if I'm he doesn't he, he doesn't, no, no,

no, no, no, no. For that the tanatology is science contra culture is, it's in

contrae in many of the things that we have created to talk about

to the real to the life and the life. Reyes to the

question of the duels. The duel is different in different

in different cultures. For example, I don't understand until my mom

went, because in the culture Jewish when you do you do you

literally no does not and I don't I'm so I'm know

I've seen how I have seen how you're you do you

do you have to do you have rassurar, no you have to do anything

and the family entire is a cargo of you and you and they're and they're you're in

you're in what you do the the family is there and the support. I don't

think because I've been minimized of my facultes during my duel I'm

I'm literally but I keep working and doing doing things and

I'm I've two accidents in car that were my cause

thanks thanks a God, or for fortune, no no past it, but it was my sense,

I mean, I mean, I'm not it's not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not I'm not,

I'm, during a time, minimum the first year, I was, I was, I'm not

I'm not I, not I, not I. So, then I'm so I'm so much, and other

cultures, you're, they're, but I was only, I, I, I don't have that structure.

Fittate that those first eight days, Shiba, that are living the duelo, just the moment not is that not you do

them make you do you have, what you have to dolear, and duelar is a verb. That much us want to

talk, and we do not even a activism, like if me detengo, me I can't,

I'm not to get to emotionallyly, then I've been doing many things, but they're

they've been in all with the most important, I am I this of the culture

that is to get to sit to get to contes to be to get to do

your to come in it to simply to be there, to say I can't

you can you can you manifest to you see that you do you do you do you

do you get to you're more more than you you're more than

nobody in this moment and I do the the place of the dolient and respect

your dolor and I'm going to get a food special for that not you make a care and make a pan

without your and they get in the eggs, and you get many things to get to many things,

and we know, when I say, I'm refer to those Catholic that of we're just

we're just these bellurios where there nole, or time to eat a moment of duels

that's sensible of the stomach, sensible of the heart, and you get to

this food super irritant super, for distractor you know, I know, I know,

I know, so it's an moment, you know, you need to do you do you do you

don't get to work, you do you do you do do you do and we're we're in that's more

time, no? So, so all that first year so this first year, because part of

what is the duels during the duel is this sensation of That is so, in my case,

no appeared, because me kept very tranquill with what had done, but much people would have been a good he could have been

better than a good mother, not have been a visitable, not was not visited so much, the cause of what you could

have done and that's a part very dolorous of the world. The brain, the brain, the

feeling's impotent and sentire and feel like to be able to feel like, because he's the impotence, and with the

world we're impotent. So, no, there's nothing that you've had to have done or to have to change the result of the things, and we're that we're going to the culp,

as a way of distractorne, because the fault also is a cortinita that no, is a cortin'n't to be able, and I'm culpable and for not

feel the pain, and it's a trackto normal in the process of duelo, totally, no is sano, and we're going to

make 20 rounds with the because a little and it's going to be and it's because

we're going because we're not we're not we're we're not we're not we're we're not

we're we did we did we we're just we're we're and the circumstances in those

we're to this I'm a satisfaction of the need to and when one has

that satisfaction not means that you're perfected it means that you your

effort and that's that's my better effort with the experience that I'm in the

I'm sure exactly, exactly and right that you say I'm going to think you're to make a time I'm going to

go to make to make a time and I'm going to get to get me have to distracter me have to me have to

get to get and being back back I'm doing I'm doing the more that I'm doing the I'm the

thing that was the correct and it was contraproduce because I was what I I want to be

more tranquil, reflectioner, going to go to get to get in contact with me

and then to be meted in this train of the time, me, me,

I made more more the process. Totally. No, I'm, not I'm, with the

good, and the, the, the, the, the, the, I'm,

I'm made, I'm, I'm, I'm, chamb, work hard Mark Antonio,

so is what we is what we're doing we're doing we're doing let's go ahead let's get let's get on let's get on let's

let's live new to what yeah a year a year I mean I'm that's and I did that

good because the body you know because when no you do you get a and you

you're great because you need you need you need you the world is the world

you know you know you know you know you know you know you know because of

the when she was and it was a world much more secure with in him than when she's not and there's

a space but now we have to you know, you're just you know, you've got to you know, who's about,

who's the teacher, who's your grand maester of many things, also was your

master of the dolor more grand and of how live it, and how give it, and how

to give it to get the duel in our agenda to be to pass to our

activities. not evad them, but to be it, but to be it. What are you? What are you? Here I'm, I'm here I'm going to.

What I'm going? So, if you see someone that's in duels, no, no, no,

don't you go ahead. Let's get, let's get, let's get, let's say, no. How good

that is that. I'm it's true. And the society tending to to press you to that you to get,

but not for your but for the good of them. A a way,

how much time you're going to go to keep that I'm

that you know that we're going to we're going to there's there

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a time

you're a time of your time of you're you're to

you better to but the duels but the

but so there There is to continue advancing, not get to atorado

in a time but that's because there's like you like you're like you're like that's all right

yeah sunate yeah yeah yeah rapidito no rapidito

quit quit this this no not it's not so not so

not so not it's not you know you and I'm and I'm and I

want to remember to that the first number one to manifest

what you to make the from the path from the inside is synchronize in the gratitude as a style

of life. The style of of the life of say, of our time, when we're thinking in what we're not we need,

that's what the mind does automatically, especially when there problems and there's pressure and that we're living

times of retos, is concentrate in what he has in what he has to create that story, and

if you're the only story that you tell you you're not you know the bestions that you

you have the bestions to Agrades the blessings that you have. For that we're we're not

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We're questions of our family, of our community that They just knew that

I was going to be here with us and we're doing some questions. Mailing

of the social us says it's two months two months he's a

last year my mom and I feel and I'm feel because I'm in

my mind the word would how I'm how

can't more more more more I'm better let's

let me what is a run you're reputable when

you when you the other part perid. And then it's just a jump,

it's terrible. And the Wibre and the D is other form of to be a way. You're going to

the movie of what you did you find you the point exact to where you did you're

and if you do you do you're you're going to change the result final. And that

is. The Wibirah and the BIDE are serious. Pekhate in what if you

did you and I did you do it do a exercise and I'll offer to

all the world, that's very simple, in a other

to say, if I would have done this, no would be this,

or if I had had given he, he he's

he, he's he for a past to, a past

that I don't he never to do this, time

to time to before to he was to all

that would never was a much more empathic that not you justs.

And the other you're just you're in the duels you're a friend and if you don't have that your own

your own your own and not you know, you're doing so important so important Alejandro Reyes Veltran

of Ecuador us left this question says my brother he's a year and I'm

so I'm so I'm sorry that's all the other way how I'm that

I'm never I never could say. I mean, it's a little in the tintero. When someone

decided to quit the life, he's thinking primarily in alhars to do it. A

sometimes, not they want to do you, he wants, he wants to get to live the

way, and not know, so, so what needs to do it is a

time, to do you know, to the person, he's, he was, he had

a lot, because if had given the had been he, he was, he,

we've respect that. It was a error, and I'm going to say in a very emphatic because the

suicide is an error. It's to be a motion to be emotions and problems temporal. And no

solosions nothing. You know, you're a cause of a great dose of and the pain and the

he's equivocal. I was a little that's called depression that you generate a thing that

chueko and he's not you you're going to be to get to someone who and you

have to have to you've had been help, you know have done.

But not we're soberious. No we can deten to get a person

when that person yeah no want to get to get it. In our

group of telegram, Monica Rios, how to we're going because you are saying or you

are you are talking that the codependency is directly related with

the problem. The term codependency surgio when we talked about

about about we a that is addicted, your life entire is around

to consume. The codependient is the person that was a person that was a person around of the addicts.

And all of the time is to come to get, where he will be, and then so it's

a person that's a person who's aidict. Today we extend us that of the codependence

for any of the other person, your life your life not is possible like

if they're not they're co-s, unidos, and so you can can't

go two pacharos and let's at one an a la and the other, for that they're unites, never going to get a little. Necessitas to do doils parallel,

but with your independence. So, no, no, it's not, it's not, I'm not,

I'm going to a life property, having your own interests, and partying, for moments, the life of

other, but without to be you, because the realteality not is being the other, it's

you. One once, be the Lego and no the Muega no. Segul Lego, no says Muegano. Excellent.

Excellent. Excellent. A friend of there's a, there's there's a. Fernando Villaronga of Santiago

of Chile, that is one of our students, one of our courses in line, we've sent this

this message. And they have passed nine months since that the

relation with my first time, it's another type of perid,

no. It was a relation of six years of Parenthood, no I'm

to know to think in her, to year, to year, and I would be to know,

how I know how I'm superer. Look, in tanatology, not we talk about because

superar is to get at that, I don't want to I'm not that I'm

doing, and all what I think, I'm that's the thing, that's the

word that we just the acceptation. I think is tarrated, I'm that's

Aterridden of going to because were many years and when

he said the relationship I think not he was the love

to the other person and the and the other person is very complex.

Because if they're in the view the the other person

not he's he took to go because he was

but in the separation she I want to then

then you you can't you kept with that you And the way

to be able to do that is to start the cycle with that person and thank you what did in your life,

pardoningla for avers have been for what that has passed, piddhending if,

for some that's that this more, that we're that we're in the routine, in the

customary, in nat of mortgit with the other and we've done to put the other,

and we're saying all what I feel for the person and then to say to do

in an exercise of a card, of a stia, to be a blacker to talk about it, and be able to talk about the opportunity to and desugars

and to get aelance. Is that when someone is bad of our lives or something or something

disappears in our lives, the question is, who is who is this person?

Correct. What what? What, what, what, what I'm doing,

and I, and I, I did I don't know I've seen this if I didn't this is

not I know the when I'm when I'm when I'm so what I'm so that's what I've

said so that is what I decided that's the role that's the avatar that I'm put I'm a

I'm an I'm a little I'm a story that me was my mission

to be my mission to my life is to make a good I'm going to show

I'm being being a good I'm me am being

good I'm being a good and then I'm and then I'm saying, I'm sure you

know, I'm like you're, you're like you know, and you're all you're in a little you this role

of the hero of the child that he's back to the other the way, so I'm the way I'mbrace

and of a right of he's going to be mom and then you let you know if you're not I'm not

can't be the child or the father or the father who's who's who's so you And that is like,

yeah, that's a lot very great, no? Sure, you're quite, you're in the topet and the moment of

to bolt, bolted the reflector that has been front to other person, put it in another person, bolted to

see to you, because that was the role, but you did you know, you're much more than

that role, as we're more than the job that we're we're more than other

other thing. And nothing of that, is the sense of the because the life in

the same has been a bit of our life in a person in a not we know not us

not know in someone that's in someone that's in someone that we don't

you can't put there you can't put there the city has a thing even has a

personificated in someone and then so then so I think I know I'm back

more profound there's there's the philosophy of that you have when you

ask you about you you're in the world that you know, what you when you're

little you're quite like all that's all the people are we're me,

my mom here I'm here I'm I'm in the bike I'm

my my clavable and my clavable and if you you're you validable

your existence and you you're you're you're you're you're but

when we we're we're we're to be a part to our

our Yeah, for so I'm part of the day, because when when we're going to do the

thing that's this big brother tremendous that that's a real real of me is not you know, no,

no, I don't see, because he has got a because he is a good, is

he's the same time that wasia, care to do you, look at the , considerate,

me, see you your proper father and your own your own orphaned, there's the option

that you can't have. And renunciar to this role or to one thought that you defined, well, I can't talk for me, no,

no, I can't not be able to. Dejare this role also is a process of lute. It's a process of duels. So,

is the negation of the, not only is the mom that's the mom that's going, and I think, I'm

going to be quite quite quite quite more, no, not only only is my mom, it was my

role of his also, my ego, me do a rabia, I'm to doce,

I'm deprimed, until that I'm to make a signify to that you not I'm

a lot of the life of the life of the role, the death of the history,

the murder, the murder of because at the day, I made to know, so,

so, all what all the, I was, I was being, I'm her,

she, he was she were the she was the mom of the Marco, Anthony

Regel. So, so like Galli. How beautiful. What beautiful. What you were

happy, vying her. I was happy vyingla. The lady that was she was she was

so I'm more for her than her than me. It was more for wow, to see the carita

and you have that that's a spejo. And now you're you're you're not

you're that you don't know that you can't that you to do you the life?

To be to her to be that you No, because I'm about, because I thought that the life was

so he wanted to bring you to get you to make you, and when one is a good omenagent. That is what

that's what gives to other level the things. And in Sanatology, we say that the

perdida of the parents is a burden necessary, because you not get to to be the

adult that's called to do, until they're when you when you're when you're

when you you're you, you're you're that role with the with the you're in the

you're you're much more than you're in that you have much more things to give you

then it's to say to the life no and one one way we're not we're not

we're not we're we're the the only when I'm to the I was gonna

and me I said the day that you're gonna you're to get you're gonna this tauts

that's this tauts that's and here I'm and here I'm shilland. All right

all of the mamas we have a little of Doha no? Because the day

that I'm a matter sure there's there I'm a lot of a lot of so I

so I think that in our life is in our life is in our and the

bad and the real love inconditional Mark Antonio it's not in the life because

we're just but not is certain. We're we're doing we're we're doing.

We're not we're we're doing that they're we're doing the time we're doing the when they're

we're not we're not we're just we're doing for being for being in our heart. The

death finally not so mala is the that you know, it's a master

to do a greatero love in condition I'm I'm I'm

I'm a part of questions more more and Dalia Marroquin of

Monterey New We know that one of his brothers, he separated of her spouse and to her did a depression

and then he diagnosed they were a cancer of mama and he fellesio. He is he's still culpable and

now live with depression thinking that if not he would have separated of her, nothing

had been about. Yeah, you, I think we put us some rounds with

the cause, a bit, not can be responsible or the herence genetic of

a person and of the habits and although there a correlation in the question emotional

with that you have a cancer, no signific that he generated a cancer in the other person.

We have to understand that we don't have superpowers and that what we can do we

do that is limited. Yeah, we have to make us more in a reality of that

we are not we are the only factor for the people and well

so, but if he feels that has that has that he has that

So, so we ever We need that barita magic in the in our hand would have been able to get the things and this would have

done. I think no. Necessita a work of a duelo, a job of a work of a good thing

for the reasons that we can't not understand, but so there. There are people who doesn't,

I want to separate but if me, I have my guys that have said that

I'm going to do you, I'm sorry, I'm not, I don't know it because it's going to

get to depriming or no I'm and what I'm and it. And what you know is that

is he would be the life or no, is that he's a he's not

and more than to get to him and that codependency need to be a help

to be a person in the company of and not to get to be

life. Maria Ramos of San Diego California knows we know that the

same day that the same the year seven of March, also, she

did the She asks if there's a little, if there can be a relation between these murders and how over-over-over- one and other

duels. She now is to redacted to the carriots of the car. In honor, that's the

thing to re-significate. Transmutar something that did the life and to bring it something to get a

good of a man, the one who one create a fundation, the that you

dedicate to per is to honor the part of this person for the life. I

think a me would be much, Consuelo to think that they're two

two are that's that's a little, that's not quite, I think there's

a, a co-sidensia with some sort of a coincidence in feches, but of that they're

together at an level energetic, they're and that does that we're thinking

that's that they're that's that's that they're a point, and a

question that has to the media, the character of this actor, the

series, The Casa of the Flores. Well, it has been very sonned the case, no, because some years suffered a trombosis for the one who they had to put upuntar a, one, for a child. Because if it was a

person, it was two, and, well. And, yeah, and it's, has mentioned much in the media's of communication that's cruxing for a profound depression.

How to help me a person that per die, not a person, not a person, but a part, decia, a person, a, a, one brother,

a, you, pids the capacity to come in, you're, you know, as a consequence to your

career, how to help to a person that's in that natural and profound and

depression? I think that's that the life is a life, and that

the part not are all the and you are you are more than a

person, or you much more than the case of the women, that they

get a son, a son, you're much more than that is, and the is,

he in he is, is here, and is here. And that is so is intact.

The other is a stuch to the we have a big appell. Apego, but the bad idea

is there. So I think to talk with him and also, expose it to the biographies

of people that so much, and you have been in the podcast invited, with discapacities that I

put into commies, because we're really we know that the only discapacities in the

eyes in the people that are people who are they're just can

do you much more with this spirit that we're called. Of course, not it's the life that you want you're, not the one of the

you're the and there's the and have to re-significingingingingar and accompany of a process therapeutic for that this

could, but the life is it. There's a time it's a cure to all. There's a person who

does it turn three years, five years, 10 years, a me will be to do for all the life,

like the the useria that you said that you you'd, what was what does but no

can't when you know when you know, the only, not the

cure to the time the time a little a little but not the cure. If you

do you do your chamba, your disinfection, above always will get there.

You, if you not you can't not be to know, you're not the

time, and your time, the memory of this person and to keep

with the thing, that's that's what you're to help, you can't have to

care, and you have to understand that there's the a real

great homelage and the respect to put in practice all what we know,

because if the other he's forced for making us to make us for the we're going to make your

life with our infelicity. And it's reinventing that relation, right? Like you to work

to find the sense. I, I'm, I'm literally. Not only only only

I'm not only I'm done a type culture indigen to talk to my little

abelita, abelita, mom, Papa, you're that's that you

to help me, give me creativity what I'm orientem get me get me

for the way, help me to be what I'm what I'm what I'm I'm

and it's you I think you know I know we're we're we're

we're a lot not a motivation you have a great perid you have

you've had been this desperation you has have been in

that tunnel of the time a time there is a

time there I'm a sure that I'm not that I'm a good I'm know that I'm going to

do you to do that the way there's a good a great other vocation of a

mission to to traducing a very complex how is the murder

and to do it's accessible for all the world that

has been my and I'm when I did when I my

For suppose, that the panatology was in my life. No, I'm living like a thanatologist. It was like a child. I mean, I'm molestable.

That's that you are an expert. I'm, but, I'm going to be. I'm expert in the pain. No? No?

But, although the other not the other don't know, I'm sorry, I'm very very proud of this, that the

panatology me helped. And it was a tool. And the people that are so dindas,

you know more than nobody, what us does the people that the people that the people that want, the

people that they're, how they're to give them, and to give them to give them in reds, I'm going to

go to have a robba, Gabi, I'm recommend a book, read how curate a heart,

Rok, that was my book. And the people, and the people, and it's

like, I'm like the person that I had written a year before, but I

didn't, and me I'm, me, I'm so I'm very content, very happy of

to have been the parents that I've seen the situations that I've lived onro, that I'm I'm,

I'm going to my, I find I'm never, I'm going to me find out, I'm going to get a,

oh, that's the good that you're going to do you're going to do that I'm going to be able

to the last the minute of my life that has, as the Dr. KENDR

Marko, 60 seconds Zendend Felis. Felicides, for sure, that your

book is doing 10 years, not, of having to have been to be able to how curate

a carol rot. Here, here's, here's, there's, I don't, there's,

in where we in where we know, in where we can't, because all the people who are watching the podcast or listening the

podcast, then you're going to do it, it's in libraries, it's in Amazon,

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I'm an author of of six and all my books there are you see my and my tautotips in YouTube and my

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create this content to to say to the people that can't that we can we can't get

about it goty tanatologist in my page of internet gabitanatologist dot com.m.X. There are you going to

know, and we're going to to continue and together to get to continue to this space given to this time that

I consider, as I said the Dr. Cueble-Ross, that the death is of vital importance. De vital importance.

Gadi, some advice final to give us that's that time to put through the

duels and retomar our lives, to be something that you want to start

this podcast? For sure. First, first, record to this concept that I said. The heart

that's rompe not so it's a little bit and it never to make more love.

We're we're we're much with the semilla, but the semia has to

make a plant to give a plant, to give us to the we're not we're

not we don't get that's the potential. So, then I to say to the life,

even we're even we we're we're able to be that what we what we

passed us will destroy in reality we're going to a better person

so that's to say to the life under whatever circumstance

to make of construction and record that the duel not is

a single in the you can't present to you and it's what you is what

to be a trampoling you you're you're you're to

you're you're you're put turbulence, but you know, you'll forgets.

Thank you, thank you a question very amorous. I know, I'm sorry, and I'm thank you

about this thing with a sonrisa, with a positiveism, with a great, but with

much and delicadeza and that is a time, it's a thing, it's a very,

very special. You know know, perfectly. And I thank you can't, that you

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