El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 205 - Cómo puedo controlar los celos - Nilda Chiaraviglio

Episode Date: February 14, 2022

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Hotel Fiesta American, Mexico Toreo, Presented And I've been much of zealos. It's an infirm, the celos, Doctor. Insupportable. Insupportable. He had ojuretos? Yeah, but if I had ojuretos, then...

More chiquita. Ah. It's a need, an angustia. So, imagine one who, with who is that, to who he'scribe, who he called? It's a movie of terror, doctor. If you think that for that they have

you have to be to celar, forget it. There's a there's much curiosity, there's much people who

is partaking the topic of the problem. There are many people who are going to the

people that's the thing, that's the devil. If has has seen

a little celos or much zeal of those that don't don't don't

do you do to come to come to I think we all we have seen

especially when really we're Enamorated. We're in a relation. And today in this episode, we're about the celos. What are the celos? Can't manage?

Can't disminue? How to do you so-execkel? And, and, also, the relationship is poli-amorosos? Is it? That's what? It's not a lot of a problem? Is it? Is it a monogamia will disappear? Or, what is the future of the relations?

The doctora Nilea Charaville Regressal, Regress, the podcast, Episode 205. Comeensamos. Podcast of Mark Antonio Regil is a production of RGL Entertainment and all his

rights are reserved with his enormous with the greats hours of studio, the doctora Chalaviglio

is to help her to help her to find the way correct in their relations. Psychotheraper

with a mastery in sexology, Maestri in therapy familiar and master in programation

of neuro-linguistic. Nilda Nilda says, and does conference and,

and, has created the diplomat the pleasure of Amar. Mila Chiraviglio

is in the podcast. Doctora, welcome. That's good to have to go to Markito.

There's there's there's to get back to get back. Mark, askal to the doctor

of the celos, because the celos, I, I know, I was I was

I was a little a little so I grew a new a new soos

and I know so I'm so no insuppable. Insupportable. Insupportable.

No can't no one when you're when you're an angustia is imagine

one that's a one who's to get to a new year or a person who he's to give

who he's a little a film a doctora yes sir so far so it's easy to avoid

to be able to get to see how much there's if there's if you know so let's a little bit

so selfas so sure naturales not are not There's a part, the human is a a machine desiosa,

since we're from the we're not even we're so, so the desire a a certain

a certain necessity to abarcar, of contend, to get, to get, to

satisfy my necessities? To possessing my is my. That's my that, that's, that's not.

No, that's not. No. The baby, when when he when he he,

I don't want property private private no he's I'm

to learn but the kids is my and they're they're and they're they're

and they get more more they're so not so so that

so that's so that that's because because the

the thing because the the thing is when when we

know when we're not we're so so is that's playing

is the life and the life and the death no okay important

is that amamantam or I'm ammantam or amortem or if you know to give amortem to

let me so the need to be so the child so the child so the child so the that

years, was seeing that's protected that in the construction

of the own need, I mean my care the mother, me

how many people me care, if I do you care, because

two seven not but this other or not. The

thing is to survive not. No? Well, that that's desire

that is from, is from the utter materno after

that we we're we're the desire to survive and it generates

things marvellousous like the resilience of the brain the reconstruction

permanent, the death and regeneration cellular every every seven years

we don't we have no cell we're ninecitos ninecitos we we've

we've we're we're so well cell a cellular

a a a but a But, well. So, the celos or that the sensation

of, I need to, attention, it's from the instinct of supervvency from the since we're up we're

up. Until there not the time. So, we need of the other to survive but

we're going to go to get us, to get us, a part of the 18 years, now, no,

you know, you're so on, no? Not much before. But, but is natural,

it's normal, it's a normal, is a that a little bit of so much? It's that

is that is a basura. Because So, no, I can use no,

no, no, I use. But if is the example, the episode.

A very, let's let's say, me, and see, let's, the

The word, CELO, like the word of and other the and the cost of

their time. So, so they say, celos to whatever thing. What the

is the thing is this need to this necessity to that's that you, that if

someone not me attend, if someone not me care, if someone not me

then you, so you, so, you, but the little is a man's

so when mom he has a a new other other little

other I'll get another perro, and then, and then, then, like, to mark their terrain. There's a, there's a, there's a, to talk to, see, to,

call the attention, of the care is important. It's important. Because you know, if you're going, you're going to say, exactly, but, but,

but it's a way more difficult when there one one single person that's a me, a man, to be a other, to another,

to the other, and the number of years, okay, that's it's more difficult. In change, in communities agricultural in communities

that still there are 36 of these communities in the world today. A the children do you do you know

not the mom. In these communities the that is the that is the is the

mother says that they're not they're doing to that is who educates and also not is who

is who is who instructe So, so, are different people and there are many fathers and many moms that

are all the children. Originally, actually was in the tribus, in the communities,

before the before the civilization modern, we're not we're not the tribe, of the clan.

Look, me, you're doing a lot because for that's so, for that for that

for that's the thing, the issue of the 200, million, more or less

that has the existence Uh-huh. Before the 9,000, before Christ, uh, no existia,

the, the pair of the communities. So, the woman was embarrassed of some of those

men, but he was, despite continued, and I'm, that's not, I didn't know,

that's about, doctora? Yeah, see? So, the, for so the,

the, the, is, is, is, is, is, is,

is, is, years before Christ, or in the clans and the people,

it's a from the people, and the one of the one of the right, oh,

yeah, I'm, oh, I'm, oh, so that's not modern. Nada,

nothing. Nothing modern. No, the polyamor no, no, no, the power,

is modern, but the sentiment and the way to share of the person human,

no, no, that's so that there was an exclusivity in the parages. No,

there's no, no, no, there no, any Parano.

No. Because there are some species if have a like the penguins. Yes, but also

there are much What? Many stil Penguins rebel, or what? There are there?

There are species animals that are monogamous? Caccy none. Cacin'nigua. Cacin'n't

because those who were they had been, it's has been confirmed that's

so, and we don't. And we're the exception. No. So, in what the

so the so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so that's it's that what's not

natural is what we've created this thing of living in a pair of and we we have a contract of

exclusivity exactly. Until that the murder no separate. Yeah. Never ever ever

never. Okay. So, it's always, much before the death but

well. And then so, a so, the cello so the cello so the cello

so Okay, then 9,000 years before Christ, uh-huh. And the agriculture? Uh-huh. And the property private? Exactly. This parcelita is my.

This mango is my. Exactly. And the degradation totally of the activity of the sexo feminine. To put a pot to the woman, to dominale? Because the woman had to keep to, the, the, the, catita, and the pedacito of the earth. Okay. There are you appear in the bards, and there

are there are in the exorcists, and there are the states. And the wars, and the conflicts, these are my, are your, that I was to conquer. Exactly.

The epoca of the Cinturn of Castita has to be with the same. I want to, I go, if I go when I go to the war, when

I go to the war, when I go to the war with more vaquitas, no? Yes. I want that those hered is

my son is my son is, no, there, no, there, this,

analysis of DNA. So, then what did they put the the cinturnon to castile to the woman.

But for a problem of herence. What thing more more than that's going to the war and

the wars were of three years, five years, seven years, seven years, in the the woman

with the how you go to the same, because... I'm going to get a gothirtos.

He had gothirtos? Yeah, but if had a little bit then... More

chiquito. Ah. What thing More than you If a carol normal Raspah Preeta You know,

Yeah, you know, To get the night That's can't. The liberty. That's a thing A statured What kind of More bad.

What's more Yeah, but not It was a problem That's not They'd be With that That's, And that

No, I was Or those Was, It was It was a thing of property private. It was a problem

of the herence. The herence. See, of that my little has been that he hered my backitas.

Yeah. See? Entient. There, there's... And so, the celos are in this

sense of, the herence, of the property, of what is my. The legado, the appellido, the

thing is the part, what he divides. Yes. That is pure identification with the ego. Pure.

that's a one word another that's no, no, I can't talk about it.

No, me he can't that I'm so, so the ego is the, is the,

is the, is the, I'm my body, I'm my family, I'm my car,

I'm my job, I'm, I'm, my, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm so, so, that one gets to a person, so, this is my barque-a-

is my, this parcelite is my, and then, and then, and so, and so, to that I refer.

Or let me refer to, let me have a little bit. Of course. Yeah, me have to be able to talk to. Yeah, me have to be able to be to talk to the doctorate. Well, then. Well, then the person, when gets, let's say, 18 years, for the 18, no,

there are chikos who are to work at the 10. But, well, when the person is going is going to it's it

is going to be good to be good there's some there are

to get to the and they're to care but well

that's other thing but when the person is

self sustainable so yeah it yeah no it

doesn't that nobody it doesn't to that the

women have to have to to have to have to have to do their

pleasure all those things are pure culture so for what for the

macho because for poser like that was a that that's the same

that but but that way those creed that

incite in a violence of a gender is so the woman is

so the inferior, but so inferior that neither that can't maintain, nor has

pleasure proper, it has to give the other or the other or the other,

so, so, so, is the woman to, uh, no, my mascot,

my perro, my my position. My possession. It's my only, my, so,

so, so I'm, so I'm, what you're what you do, what does, what he does,

what he does, Where's it? Why is it? Why do you do? If you're My, I decide, right? Sure.

So, And so if you'll see to be someone more is an offence and is, and no me

is, and no you're not you're to be to be a life, you're going to do the infirm

Yeah, me and I'm like the man. Okay. Entiento, I'm

understanding the origin. So, that's the natural, the celos don't have nothing. The,

the celos are the infirmidate of the certidumbe. The celos are the

the certainty? I mean, I mean certain I'm, I'm sure. I'm

sure. But, but as the security no exists, it's a,

it's a way of the mind, yeah, trying to guarantee something

that can't guarantee Exactly. So, not crescent. So, not growing.

Continue being a kid and I need to be and I need to me value,

and I need to me value, and I need to recognize, I need to and I need to the other. Sure.

See? Now, the celos, I'm going understanding, but the celos also can be

manifest from the woman to the woman, not only only only from only from the woman.

So, so, so. So, so I'm going to And so, but that

no has no 50 years. The celos of the woman

to have no I'm not. Well, I'm because I had two years

I'm going to I'm I don't I don't I'm I'm I'm really

very celos very celos but I don't but I'm celositima clear

he said my abuel my abuel my abel my abelteable to be Fernandol here

I'm a a navagraga, I'm going to cut the car to see the see you're seeing the

beautiful and it's a drama and all the thing? Well, I think But it's

more modern the thing of the woman. Let's let's the woman

to the woman, has to have to have been with essentially the

how you know, one once that the woman is the

part of the 70s and then then all the thing

of the equality between the woman and woman. So the woman

says, ah, you can and you can and I, no. Ah, I don't

I don't a you don't a time. So, so my my

abel was a progressist because she said, I'm going to revolution

that she was a answer, I can't I'm my consultory attend

people I'm at this age and the men and the women are

but don't say, So, I mean, having relations extra-consugals, no? And the woman,

no? So, the women in your consultorial they say that they're in the carousel,

changing the... And now, I'm saying the ladies. And what they're the people? And what's the thing?

No, I'm not, that's me, they're going to say that. Of course. A-pook to do that. But,

well, better. If I'm going to revert if I'm not the cathedral, Yeah, it's like a No, it's like a word

no-awrower You, while I'm not Enteres, no And while no I'm not going to No, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, well, you, do all the, that's, you do the want to, when the when the

woman, when I came all this thing, the gender, then the woman says, ah,

I, I don't I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, you too, but right, yeah, is the

same, that's the generation of the the ages. The generations of now, also the

infidilitar of the right, exactly. Exactly. Cetto, all the do you know.

Cells without. No, I go, I'm going to a doctor. I go to a gymnasio,

no I'm going to say numbers, but I know a but I was a new in the city of

Mexico when I live here. And the gymnasio me said that the men are

that the young in the community and the So, they chaffed to the

trainers. Well, there, there, I'm there. I'm there. I'm going to train

my love. Ah, that's that's with who train you? And where

you're and then you know, and then there were that services where you said,

I, I'm, I'm going to the super and you go to the hotelitto and you and you're

and you're because they're because they're ha. Claudia said, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh, The thing of the women is, yeah is paroch. Tant to in celos, as in infidelity. Exactly.

Exactly. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, so. So, so, we're going to distinguish a little,

we're going to, let's say, to say, the word, so. Right. No? If,

if you, you go to another person, no, this, and you miras to a thirder, and your a

of a so enoja so that's not so you call, CELOS How's

how it yeah? Envydia. Yeah. What's that's that's that I

have a other that's that I think she she's she's you're looking

to the other because I me I'm a problem to have or not

to have so so. So the sonos would so as how

how a little mountain and say me oh that's like a

little mountain so Like four montares. Four montares. In a, in a parche a son,

no would have nothing to that she or or he or he, will, go to have a

person, and that's I mean, I don't like like, but, but, but no,

it's nothing a malo. No, it's all natural. It's natural. But, you with

your marid when you're when you're when they're a bit and say, look, That's what you're doing.

What you showed? That he he's detain in the end up in the signorita, because then he can't look at the right, from the

middle, and the and he he said, he confessed to that. He's a man very well that admire the beauty of the world.

I mean it seems valiant that you know but it's but that you do you do that you do do you do this

space and that you can't that depends that you you molest of the auto

image of the concept and of your auto self-esteem not you have to

make a person who will be a person who that you even that you can't

look that's that little little chica? No? Yeah, exactly. But it has to

be with your autoimagine you're content with your image you,

you're you're you're you're well you that's that that

that And the auto concept, so, who is I? I am I am I am capable with other person? No, I'm incomparable, because there's a single Nilda Charaville

in the world. No, there's another. So, so, so, so, so, and so, so, so, the comparison,

uh, no, has a sense, sure, because, because the other is the other, see, and it could be more more high, more

more shorter, more more, more beautiful, but, but it's the other. If I'm

content, orgulose, my auto image, my auto-concept, my auto-stim, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And, and also, autoestima is, no. Is it? The auto-estime Alta?

No. So, what is what exists? Autostim. Autostim. Tap Tapok.

Tapok, or there is auto-estime or no? No. There's too auto-estim.

What is the autoestime? autoestim, the stima that I'm to make to me myself. Aftime

auto-aloration and how so it's so it's a structure to do you do it and the

more you know, and you know it you're you know and it is a

thing that that's there's that's something that's and that self-estime

no it not you not even no it's that you want to your

self Pond to metas and then and make the metas chisket and you're and it's a cumulah

in one one makes your own self-estim exactly well you you know you know

you know no no no no no see no we know we're of the

metas chiquities of the yeah just the so just the time is saying that

I'm doing that I'm that's the self because it doesn't the back and the

because it's a parameter impossible to medir. How I do you do you

know that your autoestim is a above or above of the of who? It's impossible

It's impossible. So, so that that's not I do you do you know I'm doing because I'm a

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so I know so can do you can make because I

know I'm I literally celosic and then I was

a nobio meageloso and connect me with puras obviously super celosas until that I suffered so that one day I said, this is horrible, yeah no, I was, me was to castar, I was celos, I was celos, no more,

I was deline, me dothalers of the back, me check, we'd check down those courteous electronic, we'd check down, it, it was horrible, but that, at having me kemated so forth with the celos, I said, no more. No more.

No more. And it's not for me. And it's not for me. When I have a stable and beautiful and we're doing we've

done to work. A bit about to do you to get to get to the job. A be to where you

know, I'm going to be in the consulta with the doctora. But I think it can't,

it's been, I've seen much. Because the celos not only only are with the

family, are you are with your family, with your family, with your perro,

because my perro, why my perry he festeho to be so when you are celosos

of the In the life you see in all parts? Yes, total horrible. And so

can't work. Yeah, totally. With self-estim. Travacando in my autoestim.

That is the part that is the part, let's the endvety. But there other part.

Other part? Yes. You're with your partner but your partner is to his house

or the job or I, to where they're, to where you're and you

have been just, and no, he regress and where and where

and where and then and then and so he no he's he's he's

he's and now he's and now he all that all so that's

so that is. Mio to the abandono. Mio to the abandono.

Okay. Ah. Okay. What are so, what are to be with the

property private? All what you did Me, me, me. Cells, fear to

get a property private. Exactly. And the other are fear to abandon. MEDA, or envidia. One combination.

Or, the three. That's what I had I, the fear of the abandon. Yes, it's a suffer horrible.

It's horrible. Yeah, because you think that in any moment, you know someone more and to God.

Yeah. Okay, so, so, that's to work to dolors of the infancy. Yes.

Who? Who was the first that you abandoned? But, there's another question. A little

incommod. How you do you abandon? Sure. No? Yes. Examples.

Like, how one person, because the other abandoning, because it's more logical, but you're

going to say, okay. But examples of how me can me put to abandoner. Dehando

to do not to looker to look your project personales, disconocing

totally what is your quality of life and what you're going to permit and what you're going to

to keep with the independence of the independence economic, independence emotional, independence sexual,

independence social, so when you are really autonomous, all that all that doesapparel and well

and, clear, as all to all all is so let's say so if the diagnostic is

equivocated, the treatment works well. It's a complex. It's a

rompe the other that's to be a care of and get a to learn, have to

learn, and we're to be to be doing it. Okay, no, I'm

but it but it's based on the primary that you did you know,

so first I have to know that's that's because if you think

that if if you don't they don't they don't they don't they they am,

then, then, then, so there's a job or the work. So,

so that's a person that's a way, I'm going to be able to a time, and I'm going to

a way to do a great, that's great, excellent, exit and all, oh,

is that I'm not a celos, and the infirm is the well, yeah, okay.

And obviously, when you're going to end as well, you know, attracts other people similar

to create that Inferno. Yeah. To say, Basta. Sure, because if you are celoso,

or you have bronches of abandon, only someone who also someone who can't even you can't be able to do it.

And as well, you need to another person like I, or a person like I to do. So, but

we're going to this, and this has to be so super simple. If the celos are the infirmity of the certidumbre,

who The uncertainty. The incertitude. If you accept that the human is immanently incertive, from the natural,

so, then all the thing is around the human is incert. Today is, and it's not it.

And we have to accept that so, to make the passes with that idea. Inclusible, to love

that idea. Because in the incertitumbe is what you to get to the creativity, to the ludic,

to the expansion, or so it's precisely the uncertainty, the data, the Eureka of all the science,

is based on that in the doubt, in the error, in how I discover in this

uncertainty, the uncertainty, the, the, the construction natural, the mechanisms

of the naturalness. Yes, is a life is incerted, the changes

are inevitable, I'm going to Abraiser this reality Yes I'm I'm And I'm

And I'm And I'm And And when one accept that the human

is incite and that is absolutely impossible control it so then

all this all this is going to but but but

here has to be the conciences minimum that your

life is what you think so so that for that they have to be in the way to celare,

forget it. What you see is, Inferno. So, repasando, the recipe, because it's a pass-a-past,

little triumphos, to start to keeper the power to those is to be uncierted, accept that

the life is incertive, that the incertitumbr and the changes are part of the life, not

to be not to say that is the life, and it's is a And so, and I'll

and if pass, pass. And if pass, it's like all the life.

Yeah. No? And the other is the thing of abandono, that's

can be in therapy, that's but the thing very important to not abandon me,

to not to be to be a person that's a person, or he has

to see his because is that my my partner not

I'm not only the other person to put on

you you are You're trying You're You're You're You're

You're You're And when you It's important When you When you're When you're You're

To say To you're To feel To your To get To your To your Or you're

infiel to you Because not you respect you You're You're You're

You're Even About about Because I'm And I'm It's like

You're It's It's very and spectacular changes of the night to the morning.

No, no, no, my friends me said, we're going to go to do you know,

but I'm traitioned because I'm, I'm, how I'm going to say that no, I'm going to be to say

my friends, and I'm going to be to say, and I'm to be able to to unrar me and say,

oh, I, those I'm really, I'm, I'm, I'm going to get to

and inventas something. It's that is that I'm that I'm working, is that my woman, is that I'm saying,

oh yeah, it's going to say, oh, yeah, it's going to keep to come to my, that's a real to me, no?

And it would be a little triumph. Sure. Ser fiel, to you, leal, also,

and be authentic. Authentico. Is a, it's a culture of masks, yes.

I'm put and I'm, I'm make so I'm that at the night me mirro to the

spejo and I don't see who I'm in because all are in the way of because all I'm

not I'm a moneyita of the order so to get to all the so the so I'm

but so I'm my mind my friends my people, fear to me my family fear to me

to not pertain to be then I'm doing things I'm so I'm so I'm this culture

our culture Latin Calid, we're more amables. We're more, well, no, I don't say more, but I mean, many things very

that the Anglo-Sajones a lot of them, are more freeos. Sin, however, there are other things that we can't learn to the Anglo-Sahones.

I, when I went to the United, I was a, so, is a country more free, and I am Mexico, and I adore Mexico, and I'm so,

but there is something that, that if you say to say, I, hey, oh, I don't want to say, I'm a,

No, there's a point. Oh, why? Oh, no, don't say, oh, why, don't say, there's a lot. There's, there. There's, there. There's, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And here's, like, the, the, like, this chantage, of if,

no, you're not my friend, if you're, if you're, it's, there's all, there's, there's a bloo,

there's abuel, oh, I, no, so, no, so, in a way, in a respect, well, say,

oh, because, because, because, because, It's important to respect to the

other and say, oh yeah. But why there's such a pressure? Because

at the same reunion there were some they were and they were.

If I say, if I am I think I'm saying, I'm I'm we're

we're we're we're we're so. So, those are

those are big great longers. Yeah. And I'm to honor now.

If I say, oh, is how I say to my my friend, the fact,

you know, and you know your friend, no? Because if you say, Mark, go, go,

my marital, invite to someone, let's get to be, I'm going to get to

get to get to and you you're not and you're so you're really my friend.

Or, see? Look, nobody can be or do what you don't have

so, so, so, so, so, so, if you don't

they can the license that that you don't have is because not they

are they are so so so so so you have

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not even because because to be making to do you do it's

not it's not not to be not not I'm

having to I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm you know you're

that's that that's that's that's The theme of, I think that I think of the question of the mentira systemica.

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in this new year. Now, this I think is the point of perfect because I want, much people,

no I've been having much curiosity, there's much a person who is practicant the theme of the

polyamor, or so, of having more of a marriage. I have friends and people who

practice in the polyamor. And the point of that they say is, here no there's

there's we say we we're saying we're saying, if I want to someone more,

I'm a no-roo no- no-a- problem? And they're oh, do you do you

go with my other, my other my other my other new, and so, Yes, but then that is an opportunity for I work with those zeal

and see where they're to be where they're to be able to grow. And, at times it's very very, but I'm increasing. The, no posseer to nobody, or not to think that nobody is me, or me.

That's so me to growce. So, so that's not, so on the other side, no? For other side, I think it was in the 60s, in the 70s,

master and Johnson, were the psychiatrass, who did all these probes with a couple of and polyamorosas and the

conclusion was that a long long-plas I read that my mom me was my mom me was

my mom is your opinion of polyamor is the solution is the solution is

that is a monogamos then not natural according to what we know we're

to be to bring us to other style of the polyamor at the more no

there's and that's the most honest or what you of this controvert

There's a fortidissimo theme. There are many who are getting to get to the

people and the people. That's the thing, it's the thing of the

thing of the love is a long, but long. But,

but we're the culture we're we're we're we're so,

when we we're absolutely vulnerable so, or we don't or we

don't move so then then you go the school

the the is independent. In the next scale. What propone the culture?

After of the dependency and the independence, what propone the culture? The interdependence.

Interdependency. No? So, what you not solucinates here, you're going to do

do you, you're going to do you, okay. What is the idea of the to the

power adapt to the world that we know, dependency, independency,

inter-independency. So, entregartes to a experience of a partner

without your autonomy. That is the interdependency that is very different to the

co-dependency where you get your autonomy. Uh-huh. The co-dependency not is Anna,

obviously. Well The interdependency Is Anna? The interdependency What you mark is a Camino of Evolution

Okay, perfect Where does No, no Retrocedes No, but you You know, I'm going to

I'm sorry I'm part to Contigues That's the Interdependence Exactly Because if I don't

I have my I'm parted No That's That's the Codependence No Well,

Well, Quitate that Paterater Tapap Tapa Tuck No

I I don't like nothing. Publicate your dictionary, Doctor. You're not the

church. You're not going to, you're trying to, let me. It's that there's a There's a,

there's, I know, what you do you like, are the , it's the,

the, the, the, the, it's, it's that, is that, is that,

is that, is, are, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, , is-ke, the iske is that is that no do I'm

it's that I'm moving is that I'm not I'm conscious because because is that I'm

because I'm so so I'm so I'm am sure I'm I'm justicicant

as we like not evolutionar for not to not do do you're not sure

I'm did you I'm in your cause in your cause but it

so so so Well, so there's interdependency. Yes. Okay. After the interdependency comes a concept of

love very very beautiful that in reality it's a lot of but englova to all. What is the conversion

with P. De Pato. How? Compercion. That never never had heard. No,

never. Conversion. Comperion. What is? When I'm P. When I'm A pairha, all the

days I'm a plume to his asses to be really a great,

although no it's with me. I'm I'm not I'm include it.

What that's what you know, you know, you know, you're a lot of

you know, a point you know, you're when a friend he's very well

in something. Sure, it's a sentiment absolutely human less

with the marriage. No? So, no? So, no is a

real real. What is the problem what we're talking? Control, I'm

is my. It's my. No. No, not you get from

this here in Mexico. No? Okay. So, so if one

could dispeg these things, it's easy to conversion for your

pariah. Yes. I'm advanced in that way of that and there's a great thing. One descansa.

Exactly. It's one one descans. But now it can get in the polyamor it's can get to,

we're going to we're in a relationship polyamoros yeah, me go and Marko me go with my lover, with me,

no, and I'm talking to come a side. I've done a few people one when they

were to the visit. Oh, we can't live in Los Angeles We can stay in your house. Yes, I have

the room of visitas. And then I was I was going to go to go to get to get to dinner, and they're, to go,

oh, well, she's going to go to see to do this person. If it's going to see a problem, and I'm,

oh, caray, how is it? And the two were to have to be a secondar for separate. And then I

go to the house, they're going to be the house, they're talking, then the lover of the lover of the

friend of my my friend and I'm oh, what I'm oh, I said, well, for the

least someone is here, I'm trying to the house. So, so,

so, can get to get to where, how you went super very, me pegged

a revolk of the one, oh, so that great, oh, so good,

so good. Yeah, so it so much cheladas, oh, how rich that you're

that's et so you're to get to that's so. So can so, so,

can be, you, you're your concept of love. Because if you

amas, like Hollywood, like Disney, like the rancher and the novels, etc. If you

amas with an amount finito, abstract, and natural, not is possible.

There's to be to have to love. With a other way. With an

amount with an non- no. No. Tapok a lot of that's not

a lot of that. Tarno a prohibitive. Like, an A more A more, a

A more, an amor A more, an word, is a verb, is to do, is to

work, so, is equivalent to work, when you you're you're you know,

products, services, ideas, so, so, create a life when you're

when you work, right? Okay. And you they're for it.

Okay. No always. What is? There's a There's a job. There's a

well. What? What does? What's what? It's end. It's

end. It's no. It's no. Well, the love is

the life. If you do you have all the things, you

have to that for you do you of life, his job, the level of

the level of the and the , blah, so, so, every

everyone has different. If someone knows how he has

what does do all the days because has a

conduct amorous that that means that means. That

concept of love that no is a that

the other the other the other other is if

I do my love to you, it's a end up. It's because it's the

100%. And if I want to love to another, then I have to get a catch to

you. So, so you will say, why you can't you get a

of my quix? And the other and I'm going to keep so queso?

So, we're we're just we're a good catcho. No? And so

so, and then so, it's fastidio because then there no

nobody content. So, the Poli-Amor, vivid, from this concept of

to love, amor romantic, a pensament magical, four paradigmas, all that that's a package that

in a culture, the polyamor is impossible. Impossible. Impossible. For that the

studies of Masters and Johnson saw that the parches not functioned in the polyamor

because were from this final finito. Finito. Where they

They were, tardy or time or time were having zealos, they were feeling traisional, and

they were trying to exactly. At the first, it was very different, and then, a new then you know,

because someone or time, he's, he's, time or time, so, so if you know,

you're doing, you know, so much, in you, before, before, before. And,

before. Because if we're in a party, and it doesn't, we're about,

we're just, invite us, invite us, we, we're, we're, we're, We need someone to us

divirta. Because we're we're abhorri- We're not. Well, the possibility of the

heart is roto and that's infinite. Okay. And, and it's going to be based

in this, well, we're seeing more more, this, uh, every

the people can't be more time, we're, we're, we're, we're,

sometimes more education, less children, the people can't more time

in Europe, right? The people minimum, after the 30, minimum,

if it's that the 40 or more, and at those, they're not there's no,

a less education and more religion, there's more than they're more

children, they're more because it's part of the thing, it's

there, we're to have more, more, more, more fieles, no?

Yes, so, so. So, more fieles and more fieles.

And there there's more matrimonies and in second and two other they're in

the first of then the institution of the part of the parted, well, for the whole life

before the people were to get to the 20 or to the 10 or to do you do you guys with the

medicine and eating and moving and moving to do you do that is, is that the

institution of the matrimonio not has much future is that the polyamor

or is the future or is the the more, not is polyamor, I mean, not with more than a person

at the same time, but with relations short as, many, various matrimoners. You, how many times

you have you been, you know, one? One. Look, how many years I've got to

a castada? What do you important? Oh! Well, it's for the studio, doctor. The castada

I'm 17 years. And I've two two kids. Okay. And now I'm

of another 17 years, but... No, not casada. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Is it the future? Is it a more reasonable? No, is with a

party for the life, no matter how, no, and we don't we're separated because we

have two we're not the matrimonios that you not are notrimonies, but there are living together

for the children and the poor people, and the people that are that the

people of the people of So, so is. So is, so is. So, is. Is it. Is it.

That's going to be a, a, a mentality of, look, look, what is, I mean, I'm,

I'm, and evident, the model conventional, the model romantic, see, that model,

so, was, entered in agonia has been more of 50 years, and, and, and,

and it, and, it's, and, why? because all the context changed.

When the roles of gender, were so we're about the abuela, were very

very rigid, then the matrimonio had a sense and it was to

give to the children. It was to be with the love. But if

you were a woman you had to do you all these rules

if you're a man has to do these regals every

who had his regals, the woman was a very,

I don't say, she was a good, but valorated, I mean, she

had a good, and the woman would would do it with

all the rule. There was the model, absolutely complement

complementary but but not the women don't the rules,

and the women do you don't the women, there no,

there a model that we can't say, this is the this is the

good To all. The polyamor. That is the future. All those are those are things. But are not options that we should consider us?

Okay. Today, front of the agonia of the Patriarchado, what there are are many models. A me

I like to talk to a model to the idea of the the pairha. And, and,

in evolution. When the marriage has to be a pair of the woman and another of

the woman, or two men or two women, no, I mean, da but in the measure that this people evolution, the space of the pair has to have to be aggranding for that they're going to and making

making relationship between both, a part of that the two are transformers. The being human is essence, not is naturalness. The being human

is process. Process. Process. Because, from the next to get to die, since we're changing.

So, we have to be present with our process. The felicity is today here in my process. Not when when I get to the result. To no,

to get to be in going to be in tomorrow. So, then, then, then, no,

then I'm for to think I'm like to be going to be and I want to and I'm want to do do you,

I'd like, I'd like, I'd like, I'm going, not you, don't you don't know, we're

for we're doing we're doing we're we're a little we're a day

one day another day another with more more there there's we're

we're doing we're we're a little to get a little our culture no

yeah but but well if one one we can

change the concept of love to let's to

make of a thing is a thing that's a that I know

that's going to believe that will be going to that's not going to not happen. No,

example. Example, we've lived felices for ever. Yeah, I know,

that's going to pass. But, no, but I see. You too too

with me? We're not the we're not us. We're not to say, you know,

to say, you're going to do, and we're going to live always for

always, for That is a How is a How is a How are you? Yes. Today.

And that's what is it's a beautiful? Why? Because the future I don't exist, no?

No. We're in order. Okay. So, if you have a present continual,

really nutritive, harmonical, expansive, expansive, and passion- What's the important?

What is going to pass tomorrow? The future is the present continual, where you are the best of your well-estan. That's the future. And the future

with the I'm going to be a way to happen of present. And if not I can't be in the present never

I'll enjoy any type of future. Exactly. You've said. You know, Eckart Tolly, the

of the authors more recognized of that the power of the power of

the hour, the new me he's done, I'm Right? Right. Right. We have to be a Yeah.

Yeah. So, all the society of consumer to get to that you never

you always so what I've said, Nilda, then is it is not, it's

price? No? No? It's not being, no, I don't

see, a a parraiserable, with sexuality exclusive? No. Well, it's a price. No important what model you do you guys. All have pressure.

And it's valid to choose models. As like when we're to the school, no no, they can be an entrepreneur or can be

an employee. It's an option valid, but never they're never they're not they're not the, well, the matrimonio is

an option, but it can be the solteria is another option. being a being one gomom

for a tapas is an option or various matrimonious is an option to have polyamor

is an option and be monogam and then the polyamor and then again are those

these options and it and it's valid see see so

so it's to be there there because when you you think

that you think is the Yes, well. Yeah, and I think, I know, I know, I know is a thing delicatism, and I do with all respect and carino, but there's the,

the time of, to reclomar our liberty, because if, at some religions, you say, this is, and if not is so, and so, does God, and if not is so,

you're going to be in a Culp. And there's where, you know, because you know consider you other options? Because, at the more, culturally, because, for the religion

what you're, you're like, you're like a Like, like you're failing to God to the life, like you're not, it's a,

it's a, it's a, it's a, my, I'm going to to do you go to do and I'm going to

do a lot. If I don't take the option traditional, that is, me casso with someone, I intend to

be a fiel. I'm going the effort. I go the effort and I'm keep for the life

with the person, pass, the person, and what is, and it's, and it's,

factible. Today, the 50% of the divorcees are in the first year of the

first year and the 70% of the matrimony terminus a model

that has failures and that has disfunctional of this time, in

any other science would have disappeared. In the science of the

relations of the relations of a relationship. It still being vigente

and every less. And I think one of the things more of the concept of some kind of

something of God, is to think that God only is in the matrimonio traditional. God

God also. God, God, God, God, what interesting is what is what you

is, because here is, bet to the Middle Orient, bette to go to the

client, let's Alaska, and it result that it's different. Well, for our

our tribes were different. Totally distinct. So in here we're here here.

Here and today 36 communities in the world still are still still

are, we're like, the type pre-agricola. So, and polyamorososos

well, no, no, no, no, no, so, every

can make with who it's the endtoj no, no, no, that the

a pair that the marriage, that the marriage, that's in the community?

One of the 136? There's, there's, there's, I'm going to the list. No,

I know, I see that there's in the world. But the thing is to have

that the of the podcast of elections for repasas is,

celos or envy a, a a bit bit a private or

properly celos, a bit of abandon. Abandon. There are. There's three forms and the

three can't try to work. Okay. I'm options. I'm options. I'm notrimonio, solteria,

polyamor, this monogam there are options and all right and it's a measure to that I have to be honest

and to work in me first to for living not in an life, sinito, without a

love that can't do you can't continue. I'm even, I have even

even I'm That's what I have to be. Infinite. It has nothing to be with, with an unconditional. It has to do you have to say, let's say,

let's say, we're going to do you, what you want? For you? How do you feel the love? How you know?

How am you? How amas? Because if the love that all the day you're going to practice, to pay a

tabriquet of all the days, he aggregates seducion permanent, that is the best is the most argamasa

to peg that's the thing. That rich. What a beautiful. What a word.

And, again, and also, if to that you sumas the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, how we can,

a be, sambugier in the pleasure of the gos, in the mar,

of the pleasure, so if, if, if really we're to that the

development of the auto-o-o-o-e- of both parts. So, that's the better remedy for that no

has an infidelity. Because we're passing too that's too. That's that's been in an o'hjero.

The pleasure of love. The pleasure of love. So, so it's called your diplomat. So,

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