El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 236 - Cómo vivir con una persona con Alzheimer - Dr. Amador Macías

Episode Date: September 19, 2022

El Alzheimer es una enfermedad que poco a poco borra los recuerdos de nuestros seres queridos y conocer sobre ella es de gran ayuda cuando un ser querido la está viviendo. Para hablar de Alzheimer esta semana llega el Dr. Amador Macías, con él compartí mi experiencia con mi madre y espero de corazón que esta información te ayude a llevar mejor el camino con esa enfermedad.   El miedo, cuando un ser querido está enfermo, puede bloquearte para encontrar soluciones. Aprende a ganarle en mi clase gratis 👉: https://marcoantonioregil.com/miedo-pod        Sígueme en: Telegram: marcoantonioregil.com/telegram   El Dr. Macías colabora en la Asociación de Alzheimer en Monterrey. Síguelos en: Instagram: @alz.mty

Hotel Live Back to Monterey. Tewalzheimer and then he was the first felled of that. It's that for years, no I knew that we had.

And we desperated with her. We knowhavos with her. We got to talk very very hard.

Verla during the process and see in what in where it was very impactant for me.

And I see me allian the lardimas because it was a situation that no

we don't understand and that who has to change the chip to

get the the things we're doing the people as we're not the patient and that the responsibility

is of us as we're individuals, right, of our same we're we're saying in the association

that the best of the medicine is the love. The love, exactly. But I get the point where

I get that day that I'm one, it was a night, I remember. And it's

me kept being the eyes, and you who are you who are? In the month

of the adult or major in Mexico, we've wanted to give us an episode that we've been for the time of the disease of

Alzheimer. As you know, or maybe do you know, my mom, my mom, and more than the fear,

because it's a fear that we can't do to give to any other, or the fear, the question is,

what we're doing? The question is, what we're one of our other of our family, a friend, an friend,

an friend, an friend, the day, Alzheimer. The reality is that nobody is that nobody us prepare

for this, and we we know we know what do we know what's going to get to make a

many times that I know about it in this episode we're an expert the doctor amador

Macias that is internist and geriatra that we're going to the health,

of what it's about how understand and about how how to do it

how to care to a person to a person who we're we're we can

we can we can we can we can this is the episode 236. From the Hotel

Fiesta American, Aqua in Monterey, New Leone. We'll start. The podcast of Mark Antonio Regil

is a production of RGL and all his rights are reserved. The doctor Amador Macias is

a specialist in geriatria of high level. He formed as a medical ciruano

with specialty in medicine internal and sub-speciality in the university of Harvard.

He's founder of the association Alzheimer Monterrey with that he bus to informer,

educate and conscientize a society about the dementia and the treatment of the problem, the family's

and the people who are the Alzheimer. The Dr. Amador Macias, is there in the podcast.

Dr. Amador Macias, welcome to thank you. A pleasure, a good. A good.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The hotel, Acua,

the Monterey and I'm going to say that's on YouTube subscribe to the channel, denle like to the video, activate in the

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those episodes to get to more people. Well, my dear doctor, has a time that I've the good

to know to the organization Alzheimer of the Monterey and I see that are things marvellousas and you

have dedicated your life just to this time, the theme for the question.

Well, well, I'm I'm grateful with God, to be able to do something for the other, about all the adults major. And, you know,

when I gorego to do my speciality in States, you know, you know that there's a lack of a lack of conscience over the

and then you say, here we have to do something. And it's the fact of that when I go to the

first day that's the first day that's the thing that's so. Wow. And then it's the

of September of 1984. And then when when this situation, you know, it's the moment

of that we have to work in this. To me, the problem principal that I sent when my mom took Alzheimer

and then it was that for years I knew that he was up we had. We knowjavs with her.

We got to talk very because yeah me robber. We've got to the vacations to some

place. I'm, I'm robber the other people and I'm know about my mom to get the job, the

woman, and then you robes nothing. And of a lot of the cosmeticos that was what was a lot of

those cosmetics and they were in the money. They were they're just they're trying to do it because they're

getting to you to get to get into because you can't even a accusation of can't

be prejudic families and not the patient. And then we and then we're insisting in this to continue educating and to lexionar of what he has to do. So, then there's to say that you have the problem that can't. Well, no, it's not going to change. So,

so we have to continue working in education, in understanding this process or this infirmidad, for that we're going to be the 20. And that is the principal arm that we have as familyaries, that in the measure that we

eduke us and know the infirmidate, they're going, will be more a lot of the course. And that's

the purpose. I'm very much that's there's a there's, there's, there's, but if it's

a problem grave at level world. States U.S. United, more of six million

of people people who in day with Alzheimer's. For the 2050, it's a project that

that this number augmentes to get a number of people of 65 years or more.

So, is a thing, is a thing a Unreasonably, 1,300,000 people are in this infirmidate,

of those that's they're identified, because how many more do they know, and their families, and their families, they don't know, it's a reality,

and, you know, there's a problem also a reason of this pandemic, of COVID, how we're impacting, and what we

know we're in, the long COVID, where this situation is chronic, and the people still batallying with their

thinking, with your memory, with your work, so we're going to get to be able to make to

make to make to make, precisely these numbers that we're there's and there are studies

running, precisely, giving them to give me to this reality of what will pass.

So, so as like the people, I've got the and the person,

you know, it's not the people, and other they're getting it's

we're going that with the questions cognitive also this process of recuperation.

60 million of people in the world is the Cifra global. Imagineate, 60 million of people. And obviously,

me can give to me and it can do to do any, or any, or anyone we can't talk to a

family. For that's so it's so important to be educated about this thing. A be,

I'm what is the Alzheimer? Well, this is a process degenerative of the

neuronas of the Cerebro, progressive, irresible until the moment and that is affecting your

memory, your your thinking, that's you're doing your capacity to be independent. So,

to do the and I'm going to be and not you can't be that something. There's so,

so, so they're being to the person, and you say, I'm doing the memory and

not me in the numbers, well, this is part of the process

But when these situations are in the day day, but it's me old to say for what are the that's the

that's different in the context. There's a there's a because to all us pass that we can't get to get

to pass more. To who see the allude the things to get to get well and

many many of those young so it's not but how how is the difference

between how is this work of this work that year that particular a movie, when is simply memory

and when yeah is a symptom that is hmm, not this Alzheimer? This is, this is a process

paulatino as you say it's more frequent and there the way the because it

is a evaluation where actually with the investigations there are studies where we can't

see the cerebral, how is your metabolism cerebral and then then

in determined to perceive that And yet those, certain areas of your cerebral, that are characteristics

of the Alzheimer not are not working. It's like an scaneal of the brain? Exactly. I mean,

I can do, us, we can't do an exam. Well, at the point, if it's, or no

it is, it's, it's the recommendation actual, but if you have been symptoms and

these have been incrementing, then there's where it's where, because, because no we don't have a medicament

orita that to be to prevent and you to be to cure. So, what

you're going to do with this information in a certain moment, you'll be able to manage. If you had to have something, right, that's just about to approve a new substance in the

United, right, to try to enlente the progression of this situation, and right is controversial the use of this substance.

But if we don't have nothing definitive, then it's it's a pain really that I know that I'm what I'm going to

do with that. That's a problem. Because me can't angustia and I'm able, so can accelerate.

Sure. So, right now we know with the studies what are the biomarkadoes, we're doings,

we know how many, we've done studies of image, and then so, these markers are positive, you've got

to the end up. You know, you can't you can't have the , the, the,

the, the, the, I'm, the time, that I'm, that I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, know, see, I'm, there is where it's where it's a questionable

and investigate and that's I would think of every every one every every

but with how much time I'm to do you this situation that's conflictive me.

I've you all the kids of people of Alzheimer or or nietos of persons

with Alzheimer or sobrinos of Alzheimer because obviously you see what he does to your

care immediately between the thing of the not is not that I will

go to go to the same So, of a repent, you just to forget, where they're the keys or

you'll forget to the Alzheimer and then it's a, it's a, and it's a enter a paranoia definitively. And then I'm

going to be, we're going to do you know, we're going to do you, and you know, that we're going to make a

question of course, of you have you're to be a tranquillity and functionar adequately, but that

is normal, no, so the patient to be the patient, they're going to the patient, and what

on with the way on what's the when when when I going to talk to be a

very real because the we're going to get a little bit more the risk but not it's like

it's like cancer that you your mom had a not mean that you don't know that you

so it so it probably but not it's a guarantee and it and you

can not not us not not we're not not so

so I'm to get the the and we're to

see to be the day a day that's passing with

our person queried, and how I'm working as a my mom, who is the that's the care of my mom, that's the problem, right? For that no soresatur,

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understand the and I'm that my mom, that was a woman active, was the director

of a company, a champion national of ventas, dava in public, he was

he got a three children in the Mexico of the 70. I was a woman

super-capaz, leader, brilliant, and was, was a a, a cascabelito, me

explained, to see her during the process and see in what in where it's a very impactant for me

and also one of the center for patients of Alzheimer where they were I had I had to enter and I

had a code for that not so they're not coming down my mom no can't but there

many people there were many people you're going to visit to your family and me took to

know a a quantity of people and you invite to his abitations.

I mean, I see me in the dark because it's you're in to see a about the

and I'm a little to know what I'm a man, that's a pilot, aviator of the photos and

all you've got a little, you know, to be a baller an avion of these is a type of

and I took to know to know to know a medical that's that's that they

were a people and people and obviously you see in in where they're with the Alzheimer?

And it's impossible to not be it in a spego. And it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, is very very, very, very Dura. Totally. This has all

a stigma, and one of the things that we is that's the situation, the people don't want to show, it, it's a lot of

the situations and the restos that we have to be a society, to confronter this reality and we have to

continue to continue to continue to the world and continue it and see in a situation

aberrante, Well, no no, uh, to whatever us can't this situation. But if it's

a real thing to confrontate this, this, this, the people, the people that were

so there's, and we're doing, and you know, you know, there's a movie, the yearro, Ronald Reagan, so,

so, people that's people who are, so, so, so, no, it's people are,

are, oh, is that, are the, no, to the, to the most active

mentalment they can give. And there is where one question this situation, that much stress

not took on your cerebral that in a certain moment influenced in this situation. And why some some

and a others, because not they're not that they did, well, that's that's the situation, and I think

that's the things, but I'm that we'll we'll be that can't that can't it's like a

problem a bit of a single response, it's a is a whole thing to prevent

but before before to get there, I, I think the tap was the

beginning and the final. For the first was when I know the was there

was a down the and I'm and I'm saying, I was there was a for example,

we're in a city in San Diego that was where she passed those years,

and me you know, you know, you know, you know, so it's a cooacan in the

city of Mexico, no, it has never before I know, I'm

so I'm so I'm no, mom, for favor if we we're

we're we're that was in Mexico. How confunds California with Mexico? No, it's nothing to be. And then I wasia, what you're saying? That's going to be

going to be. And so, no, me's going to. And so, then I was going, for what he? He said, that he was telling clear that.

And he was a bad a verguyence and he gave an angusty enormous, that's a time was very difficult.

Then at the final, for the obvious, yeah, about the but yeah after that, like,

he, like, it, he, he, it did do it be like a

little a little we've got a few years we're like a little bit of like a little bit of me

you know, I'm like you all you know is that's me all right but the principle is a new

a time and that's that we're we're not we're not because one so you know and it

because you're you're not you're not getting that conversation fluid finally

you're you're you're trying to you're that's that's

that's where we we're stress precisely in the person, because, as you say, being intelligent, perceive that something not a good.

So, there's where I'm referring to this, to change the chip we're trying to understand, but clear, and here I'm going to

make clear that not allsheimer, so. So, so there people who gets to get a capacity of

the end up, and not gets to functionar as well than this, and this can be reversible.

And these are of the things, for the which, conviener to go to the

medical, right, that the Alzheimer Disease International, what he recommend is to have a

geriatra or the neurolog or or the psychiatrist, who are the most more capacit

in this situation, with the intention to see we have the problem of the

diabetes, problem of the thyroid, or things that can beversible, and in a

certain moment, it's a opportunity, and you will be a normal

the dementia and the Alzheimer is the well, good question,

because this is the frequent of the fact, now in the

way to say a use a term, it's a punerative for say it's

horrible, dementia senile. Trastorn neurocognitive major. It's very complicated.

It's more. It's more. It's a more. So, so it's

the term that want to want to call or castor cognitive minor or

this is when the person begins to to baty with the memory,

a little a little of a independent. You can continue doing his

things, but your agenda that's a period of because there is a day day. So when

you get to get your your abilities and depend of others, then we talk about a dementia

or a nonctuio. And then the term anterior is dementia senil. Or see,

an individual over of the 60 years that starts to get to their capacities they put

this termino. Actual actually not not it's this termino and then it's to

talk to be a cognitive major and the most common is Alzheimer. The Alzheimer is

one of the of the disorders cognitive major. That is. The 70% have you have been this

apeido. And so now we try to put the apeido, that if it's demencia vascular,

that if is the leg, that is frontal, and then they're different contexts

to be so so it's Alzheimer's, there are things that are reversible,

people over of the 60 years that starts that's it's a

I don't know different. To all this, that's a, I mean, definitely. The majority of the people that

present a Alzheimer's, the most common is adults major. But we have a percentage that's more

them more them. And then what you say, minor of 60 years, that's a

time, and there is where we're about the dementia of the family or the Alzheimer

family. And then we're we're a percent or two percent of the total,

well, is people that genetically is predisposed because it has a

chromosome altered and that's about the 50 years probably probably and then

then they begins with this deterior and already there are studies of families

where where for example here in Halisco there's various families

that have this situation or this and then they're

doing and they're in the end the thing

of the child that has the 40 years

that still still still still but that it

Demonstro in those studies of scan that there are alterations and these biomarkado that's

that's in so it's in so it's in so then see these substances can help to that

or that they're not those first symptoms that I'm put to put attention in a

person in a where I where I can't say um I'm

okay well I think I'm think it's one so it's one more

the most common that are the questions of language, you're repetitive,

extravias, things, you're you're you're different, you're different,

you know, you're to start, like a little, you know, and you know,

and then the house, you know, you're there's a lot of, that's

the people, who's, who's, who's, who's she's, she's,

the person that's the person who has, or the other, me robin, these

ideas, right, of that, that they're scondens, me quits, me robes

the things, no? First is the senior that is there, that's a year, and then

they're in the kids, right, that's, right, that's, there's, there's,

there's a other than, they're, they're for that they, for that to me, to me,

they're not, I don't, and I'm no, I'm no, so, then I'm so,

so, so, it's, a, a circle, so, so, first,

the, first, the, to discuss to this person. So, but if I'm doing that something not is good, then there's to evaluate it. With the intention of

we're, we're, we're, we're, there's something that here's something that can be reversible, modifiable, and then then, well, you know, there's a process that no's be well,

the time is going marking the things. And there are things that we can do to make sure those conditions or that conduct, because it can be a depression in a

determined moment. And then then Well, it's just to try the depression and it's a Alzheimer, then it's better the state of

but not as and then there go advancing. And our error as a family, the me and of my and of my and my friends

is that we never we've got with a time after we had been a problem major.

If we had been, to start to start to get to get to get to the geriatra? Well,

the recommendations of the 60 in it's that it can't you have your medical

of a cabesera, right? So a geriatra would be the suggestion. But, the people that get to

the 60, I'm very. And if I go with a geriatra yeah is for the years. Yeah, I'm not.

I don't know. I'm not. You know, they're so they're upending. They're up. I have a old city

and he gave a discount and he's enojo because they did a new a discount. And say, no,

wait, and say, take your discount and to me no me don't so that because,

clear, that's difficult to accept it. Even in the incoences that one gets to the groups of age, one is going to you're going to

more to start more than the side than the thing. Look, we know we're going to with the affand

that you don't you don't you don't you don't you I'm a geriatra for that I'm a mom after a

after a lot of pleitos and that me robbed and you think you're that I'm like I

know, you know the symptoms. One day that got her car living in San Diego

with my Sobrinita, she cruised to Tijuana, places of a pass-eo, and she said a little

about a man of 60-tantos years with a little little in Tijuana, perdida, in times that was when they were

when they were people of the Poundes in Tijuana. And so, how it came? Because he said

that I'm my mom. The senior language, I'm I'm sorry, I'm a my hither, I

went and they went to one of my men, and we're going to, and so it came to it's a

I've got to get the keys of the car and it was a great thing. Because what with so a lot, your auto,

your target of a little they were to get a money. Because I was to buy things for

telephone, he called. There was a person in the family that was he gotrava the card

of the carer automatic and he in a casino. No, no, we passed for an

and I've got to get a cargette a car carnet. And that is the

point of that's that's some that are doing important. No,

after you the bomb? And then the reto is, how I going to convince her

to get to evaluate if you know for she says that's good and those that's the way,

and the so that's the time and many times I have to go to the house

to and say, well, so I'm my son, I'm like I'm talking,

how are the things and you make you and you make a thing with the

intention to this relation to be conscientent the family of that

this. the ridicule, and not say the syndrome of the ISI, and if I'm I'm equivocal, and if I'm I'm wrong,

and if I'm bad, and you get a paralice of the analysis. And there's where the fear, it's where

the fear, it's a difference into doing your reality or not to do it,

is to learn to the mind to that the mind you, for that I'm

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I'm to get a gyriatran it's it's it. Combine it.

And right not we're not even in Latin America to talk to prevention but even after that's a part of the

so that's a great error where precisely to say to be what is my baggage family that I'm

what are my conditions actual as how do I do you get to get to the great

that we're in Latin America is this fact of the individual that the individual that is going

that has been better and that has been sure four, five years, are very difficult to live.

Because you're very deteriorated. In the measure that you can't make you the best possible and you're the ideal,

right? So, not we're going to do so that the people are all. And so this

is for the children, precisely, that help to get to their parents, to their necessarily in

a time and that they live with with quality. And that the responsibilities of us as individuals,

of our health. And, over the only the woman costs more to visit and attenders. And then the woman is more

more sensibilized for this. And the woman is more frequent. And then that's more frequent that there are

more the people who are more longhebats. And then those men, then we know,

then it's done a lot, but it has been more the home to attenders to their

questions of the questions of to work with this situation to maintain me well and try to get the Alzheimer's to get you respitees

to this life can be a period short or it can be a period long, no? There's people that there's a different. There's people that

try processes more rapidos, because also try diabetes, try hypertension, there's a series of things that then then

then they're going complicating and that so that's aceler the process, but there can't say that me has done 20 years.

My mom my mom was are very much. They're very much. They've been very much in general. That's been

not trying much things. That was an manned to be not. I mean a badetess type two

had obesity and so but it was an in a good time. And it was a good a lot of

because you know, because you did you because you're because it is where we can't

we can't change our mentality to understand to understand and and show

with we we're we're That the best medicine is the love. The love.

Exactly. And having it said, there were years very beautiful. The crisis, as I mentioned,

was at the first, where I was, I knew, no, I didn't do it, but one that we

and a time I'm, and here I think, I think, this, you know, to give you

your advice, for me, the decision more difficult that I could take after, before

to try, but I try, four different solutions, was, to get her to a a house

for people that had Alzheimer's with a unfermer's, with medics, with medics, they were in the can bea

all, all, all, but I feel like a pessimie my mom, to my mom,

to get to get to me to get to me and it's a disaster I, I was

I've been because I have to be much. So, then I'm to get to get to

get to let's put her and then when I was was, she'd

she was enojave with them and they robbed the infirmaries I intended I'm going to I'm a car to my

brother and my brother and my family and a disaster with the man with the caro with the

conna with the disaster I said I get to the organization that I'm desperated

because yeah no could more and because he had been attempted all

and here is very very very so your testimony and where I

I'm I'm to the people that you have that transmit

that experience to sensibilize and understand how the people

that's doing a care can do do this other than the other also. I mean,

and I did that it had to be much with the irration of the brain and you're

eating processed things embutied that the the arteries are getting so they

get to get to the blood, there's there gets to the

Cerebro, and that is one of the factors. It's one of the factors that that has been with style of life, as you know, right? The tobacco is one of the things very important. But it's part of the embegecishment. So, in the measure that, well,

so, we'll have this little tapasone, then we'll have a time. And there's a moment has been a problem vascular, cerebral, or so, some a little infarct, and recuperate. And it's still maintaining. And then

how do they do one and others? That's part of the situation that not quite. But we're

to care precisely these things that are the tapasone of the little little vases where

not it will manifest with the paralysis of the or that you don't you can't

you don't about that's and not the other than the stuff. So,

the time, the time, this has, this has a little this has a little Men's

more more probabilities. What that affect the heart, affect the heart to the

heart. That's good. What affects the heart affect the brain, and then

there's precisely the diabetes, the hypertension, the obesity, sedentarism, the tobacco, the mal

nutrition, so are factors that sumam and in Latin America are we're champions, right?

Precisely of the sedentarism, the obesity, the diabetes, the not to be not to

do care and not about to question of prevention. So,

we have to care us or not to be in a time. And not be a carg for the other

sure, prevening, prevening, prevening, and when we're going to get to a geriata,

when it's to start to do we a time a time a time we're not I got it

and that I got to that I and it was like my my ha because it was and all

while they were all called and they they put in to come me the disrasasabab and

I was to be, I said, you're going to you're going to you're going to you. We're going

to be the father, you're going to get to be a child, but you're to get a child,

but you're to get a Marko an man, he's got and he and ha, ha, and there

and there was like 10 years and I'm and I'm a time but I'm but I'm the point,

after the shock initial, there were a year there was a very beautiful, was my my I'm

my I'm and what's that you did you did the point I get that day that's the time

that's I'm a never a I remember and I'm a I'm sure and I'm yeah I'm

he said you're my my friend no Irma I'm my oh yes

my but I'm a Navit was sent to I front of her with the

family and she and she's and I'm and you who who who are you I'm

you're I'm my mom you're my mom you're I'm Mark

Antonio He said, no, no, no. If you were my son, I'd be your son. He's, who I said, who I said, who you're, I'm going to be, to you've seen.

Yeah, so, it's very very, I'm, this. I'm going to, the, uh, the, uh, those, esposos, right? And where on

a certain moment, the senior, this, has, uh, has a, uh, and he, and he,

and he, and he, and he is, is my, he's, the, is my, He's the same.

Yes. He came to care me. He's here periodically. And his husband? No, my

is the photo, no, where is the car's over. That is the image that has the

past. No. And this is my husband. He went to to work. But he came and

me he's quite to do that. So the, the, the, the, the,

I'm sure, doctors, to any person, to do have done, to be able to be if you

get a curve, it's much more difficult. That is the podcast that I would have

liked to hear years before to be prepared psychologically. I think that we

think we a responsibility in our our health and we need to care

that would be part of my message of that that as, as,

as, as kids, as parents, in a time we're our responsibility to not

give our lot more to our our of the Serexed

and, well, we have to we need to care of the things that I insist because there's questions of

prevention, there's to try to manage the stress, using the audiophone, the people who

starts to have to get a diminution of the audition. We know we're a marker of

cognitive. So, then we to put to the person that has a person that has a

light to let's make the thing, that the person, for example, the hilo dental,

that are of the things that are the things that they're in the things that the people that have more than the endal

and the encas have more risk to have been a risk of having a because for the carnia

is that that's that you do that you know, that's if you know, you know,

in the day well, in the night, in the night, for the obviously, obviously if you're

more than less than five hours you're more risk to have more risk of So,

the situation of the stress, this is very difficult to measure and manage right. Now, we know that the contamination, the media

also are being factors that are in our question cognitive. So, apart of the exercise,

of the diabetes, the hypertension, all these things, then our diet and the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, that definitely has a impact, and they can reduce,

at a 35, 40% the risk of the of the and the doctor,

muchs thank you. We'll have a applause with all cario to do you the doctor amador Macias.

Where can find you the people or where can't encounter a association Alzheimer or where

they can find help in Mexico or in other places in the world. Well,

you can you're in the Facebook right? Association Alzheimer Montereyrey and there

can find information and also is in Twitter and they do you do you

obviously, conferences and a series of information. In TikTok, no, in TikTok, no? In,

still not. Well, because no? No, America, Kowen, at all. There's never.

We have to say, we, we know. And, well, my correo is doctor, complete,

arro, Amadoramacias. com, and in Facebook, there's too. Tardesco much, that has been

to be to us. It's a pleasure here, and with this public,

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