El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 238 - ¿Cuál es el sentido de tu vida? - Odin Dupeyron, P. Juan Antonio Ruiz, Lama Eduardo Herrera

Episode Date: October 3, 2022

¡El debate continúa! ¿Ciencia y fe van de la mano?, ¿Existe la verdad absoluta?, ¿Existen puntos de encuentro, aunque tengamos distintas religiones o creencias? Seguimos con el ateo rebelde Odin Dupeyron, el Padre Juan Antonio Ruiz y el Lama Eduardo Herrera, en la segunda parte de esta mesa donde la espiritualidad se hizo presente.    El miedo, puede bloquear nuestra creatividad en momentos complicados. Aprende a ganarle en mi clase gratis 👉: https://marcoantonioregil.com/miedo-pod        Sígueme en: Telegram: marcoantonioregil.com/telegram   Sigue a Odin Dupeyron en: Instagram: @odindupeyron   Sigue al P. Juan Antonio Ruiz en: Instagram: @pjuanruizjlc   Sigue al Lama Eduardo Herrera en: Instagram: @herreraheduardo

Hotel Gama in Santa Fe, City of Mexico, present it. Why, why not so not so, if, if nothing more is, then I'd say the

truth, me, it's terrible. Yeah. It's like, I think, I'm saying the life,

and it's that's the naturalness manifesting. For that, so it's, it's a, manifestation,

like in love. It's part of the, is part of the, it's part of the, I mean, we can't even understand it. No,

no, you can't even explain it. Regil, every that I say, but why, you know, you're not going to

start with your idea of God? And the rabbe no more salter with your idea because then every one of defend their idea of God

and there's there's a lot. That's move and what I'm I can't. I can't explain the capacity to explain it.

No is a human. No is a human. No, it's a person human. No, it's a person human.

No, it doesn't work to serve for something. We're going in terms of human's of something.

Okay. Because the people is he's more suyo, what is what less

They just of them, that's their meteduras of power. You know that force? I don't know. You've been, you've been to say, I'm not going to say. All this you've got to

do this. All this is what you do, because we're doing for the murder, so the questions universal is that all the people are we do we're doing.

We're doing, from my point of my point of view, and can't be completely bad, that is the problem that we have in the humanity, that we're going to

talk and conceptualize and that if exists, that if it's not exist, that's not That's what I'm... That's what I'm... That's...

And there's a solution. Gads de Mark, Antonio Regil. It's a production of RGEL Entertainment and all those their rights are reserved. In the episode anterior,

I was... ...asysing religion, until me they were to be a Catholic, because I'm not a family Catholic, then I'm recuperer. And that's

that after the we're going to be amados and we're going to be to be renacer, but not like a ser,

but not like a soul, The people religious of all the religions and creensions are very very aggressive. We're we need to Adeney Eve

existier. Alleluia. So, those forms that are you. I'm not I'm not in contra to you.

I'm not what you're saying and the idea of what I'm trying to do you. I'm trying to to let's get to let's get

the eggs here. It's very unjust that me compare that concept with a chiener that is going

with the and now the debate continue. I think I've known much

people religious that's that's the person and they're they're and they're

so they're very good people and they're and they're very much they're very so if I

don't have really, if I'm responsible of me myself and I have to action to act

to do the law and the logic to go according to the mark historical

because there there are things there are badas and there there are things there are

you're and of repent you and then you have to be things that might be things that are

you know, because you're looking to be a good not. And the example that I'm going to put in

this of Libra Pedrio that's where you you know, you put yourself to your example of the

father, that you was doing things that you know, he did the freedom of

to do the four boys, four men, and you're a woman, and you see that

these four men, they're being, they're violating constantly. And you are the father, and are your children, you're

you're saying, you're they're, they're they're going to, they're going to, they're not, she's not, she's not, she can't defend it. It's like they'd say to the liberty. They're not electing, no,

violate her, but, well, she doesn't, she doesn't. The fault. No, it's her your question, because God makes, because not, because no, because not more is, then the liberty,

my ped, me It seems terrible. I think that's the real to say the the truth and they're going to be able.

And then going to pass the love to get the question. And that's what I'm that's what I

think I'm did in the podcast anterior. When Odin that's this question that I

think it's super valid. I'm I'm a God human. It's an

example of a person human who obviously if it's not but it but I don't know

a God as a human that can't or that can't or that doesn't

I don't for use that that's a in the micro-manejo of the thing, to be, what you did you

did you, what you did you do you know, let me, let me, let me, let me be able to that, I'm,

I go to I don't think in that God. If I think it's a God, then I'd a conflict,

but as I know, I don't think in a human, of the body, that has, he has

and has invidias and he has and he's because all the human we're so this is

an omnipotent, omnisent, omnisent, no present, that is more like a grand energy creator that

that makes it that's the that's the thing, it's that's it's the natural that's manifesting. For that

it's a manifestation in a law. It's part of the is part of the, so we can't understand it

but well, we can't even explain it you know, but I'm saying I'm not the idea of

a person to say to to say to to do you to do you to do you to do it's to me

to be the question to me because of Exactly. So, then. It's an approximation deist. God's a dissonation.

That's the position buddhist, presumably, that not is the position buddhist, presumably, and she'll go to attender other things. And I'm, and I see,

and I think, now is the postura Buddhist. What is the thing is to get a world and it's a moment. No, that is,

that is deist. I don't believe in that God. To me, okay. To me, to the element of mental. I think the

health mental is very important. Today I've been on Channel 11 about what is going to what I'm going to beheas biologically.

There's many elements of being about a adult. One is the reason that Odin represents a very clearly

and also is a rich, passionate to listen to listen. The reason. For other other side,

the empathy. The empathy to the other. Another, responsibility of the actos.

The equality in to be to be the other, because when we're notarred, inconsiente and cognitively, to a moment of trauma, as they say in the psychology, is that we're going to use the reason,

or in the moment that we no sopece us, a situation of the life, a fault of respect, we, we're going to, we're going to, the name of the

God, or in the number of the party political, or in the name of my business, we're going to keep the life that person. So, I what I want

to tryer, not the book not the neither the not quite the human but it's

the context of that the person human is a process complex

cultural historical, historical, social, but eminently psychological and

emotional. So, so, so, so, the compassion, of the

love bondadoo of this notion postmodern that that Odin

no doesn't no there's no there's not we can find

different forms of be able, valoring the most important that is the

aspect human. The human created ideas and those ideas they were a lot of and then

God, and now God to do you to make a God. So, that is God. Now,

now with the post- there is to do you do that we're not. And the liberalism,

we're not the people are getting the market to change the market to make the money.

Now, are, so you do you, I'm, you, I'm, you know, is that

partying. So, with you with me. God God. No. Okay.

No. No. It's that you know. It's not. It's a question. You know, no.

No, no. No, no. No, no. No. No. No. Well, to believe me

name you. No. How do you know, I? How do you? I don't know to the people that the people that

we call to know. No, because the people that depends what he thinks of God and it depends what other

thinks of you, then to what I go, to what I'm to do, you, something that exists,

this energy that's that's a that's a way, I don't have the capacity to explain it.

No, no, okay, no, help you know, does it, do you know, I think,

in that way, I'm, just, I'm just, I'm asking, I'm, in what I'm doing, okay,

okay, no, but no, no, you know, not, it's a person human,

we're not, no, no, it's a person, not it, not it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's serve for something. We're going in terms of human

of the other divine. I know if I'm going to explain. If you're to get that force, I'm

not so you know that person, Odin. You've been talking to think that so you know

I'm not I'm not I'm, I'm hear you don't think. I don't I'm not I'm not

I'm not to have to make a God to and say that I'm know, I'm I'm the

I'm the I'm the I'm the end here I'm not I'm completely abired to

the possibilities infinites and Piskita of the universe Entere. For that when you

use a Kortoli, he says, that prefer use the word universe. Because the people can

discuss it. Wait, no, that's not. It's not. Many people can say, my God,

no is your God. But nobody can say, my universe not your universe, because there's a

single universe or multiverse or what it and there no, I prefer the word

because there no, no there's very question. It's what I'm saying, it's something to be

a word, there's a little universe that can If it's multiverse, it's a multiverse, it's a lot of universe.

Well, in the science is that in this time. So I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to get a point. I'm going to get a

point. If you're going to do you. There's no. There's infinite. There's I'm going to be and I'm able to all of them.

So, then the only that I'd say, let me say, let me say, the telephone. That's is God. Also, I'm

a word. It's God to do you. God's responsible to you. I'm just, I'm just the I'm the word

that I use is the cognosible, that is what you can't know. And we don't know but we'll know know, but we're going to know. Or do you, or will be the 200

years after, or the cognosible. The universe and all of the years is cognoscibly. And before, not we know if were neuroscientifico, I don't study a chingada,

I'm an achingado, I'm an actor, but neurochimico, pharmacobiologist, no, no, I studied nothing, is what I think. I'm so, I'm, I'm saying,

I'm the new, for so I'm, I said, to say, this is a bad. For this, I'm going to know where you're going to

know where you're to know where you're right. So, if this is, if he's you know this, you know, I'm there's a

thing, there's a thing, the universe, the cosmos, the world, but then we know the cosmos. When the universe we know the universe, when it's God.

This is God. Then we're not we're parted the mother because then we're resignificinging something in what we never

we're going to put into a so we're not so all those people say in the words and the people are

that you're that you They're just them. The etiquette is the way of to organize the knowledge this is mojado,

this is sec. This is durno. This is this is a organization. Organizamus the knowledge. And there's it

quitted and they put it. This is solid. This water is liquid. And it's liquid. And then it's liquida

and put it. And put it solid because it's and put it free. And then so we is resignificem

we'll, dejectes let us use this word for all. And we have a

new word that we can unes we can't I don't know. Dino is the same. We use the word to give to pass the word to the father

that's going to be waiting a good rata and showing grand paciency and self-control. Well, it's that God. That's,

that's, that's, to communicate us, we need to use words as God. Now, if I do it,

I know to God, and I know who is God, and I know the truth, and you know that you don't know that I'm not that I'm not

I'm not so yes. But I'm feel with all the power to use the word God to use the power to God,

possibilities infinites disconnocido, universe, multiverse, and what we're going to... That's... Because it's... Yes, but I'm human. So, but I'm expressing

something, something that I'm even to get to get me to the explanation real. But I have to be able to say, God.

And you know, I'm not the God's about, you do you know, I'm so I'm gonna do you know, and the end of the day, is what I'm

a relation with that I consider sacred andina, but let's, for favor. Thank you. I'm... I mean,

we, we're, we're... We know, we're... or, I mean, we're not, other thing, more than we're human, that's it's our

way to say, it's our mode to say it. I'd like, we've got to respond a little to the thing of the

thing, because we went to us we've got to us. God, is he respond to the

suffering but he's not, he's not he's going to say, respond to respond to other ways,

to find to find out, the mode of, to exercise of God is, no, so,

if you're you're to start to be to be to be to be mark and

they'll get to get to trompadas I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm

going to go to then the so the mode of of God to do the word of

that's that's that through the life that the the way to the people to

you know so that you don't you know so you don't you don't you don't

you know but we're not you know we're doing the no no it's the way it's the

but but if you don't you separate not is God, but if you know, but if you know, it's a lot of us.

If we're going to we're going to start in this idea that you you're saying, you're going to do you're going to do you, the reason,

the reason ultimate is because God me gave the liberty to do the freedom to to do it. That's the mode of the way. That's the mode of

that I'm going. But then it's not actuant, you're saying that you're doing, you're doing it's what you're doing, to be,

let's the question, the question, the mode is, so if I, if I, if I plant a a semia to put it

more practical. Planting a semilla. The semilla, is the the tree, is the tree, is, yes, or no? The arbor no. Okay, but it can get to be a normal. Normally, or not,

yeah, sure, because when I it's the same yeah, exactly. So, if I plant a semia, okay, when the arbor creces, in certain way, I can't you say, that

the rege, and I'm I'm here, the that's here, the thing, was I, in a certain way, is, no. No. But what is the cause? So, but if I don't plant the

tree, the arbor, no, it's there's a little, no, no, no. That's a concrete, I'll agarro the semilla, and I plant. Uh-huh. So, that action... You can't avoid that creak, if the arbor not grow, no, can't even if you let riggas, and it'll rinket and let's... But the cause, but the cause, but what I go, the cause

ultimate, of that that that's, of that tree is, because I sembre the seed. That's a art of secret. And also, that not creakest, because you put you to the sameia. Okay, de but the normal is that the the arbor

crecera. To that's to the way. The other, is that we're not going to, the thing

there's the thing. There's the argument. But exactly. That's the argument. Incluses. To what I

go is, the normal is that I'm a small. It's the is the normal. Well, it's a

way. It's a way. So, that's the model of God. That's the

is the mode of understanding to understand rationally. So, God. God Siambra

the liberty in the human and the and the people are the people are the people are the

detaining the death of the death of the but as the way of the way of the way that's the way

to do that that's my point. But the point is in this semilla that not that's

that's that's you're not you're putting the semilla in that's we're doing we're doing

we're we're doing we're I'm just we're actualizing that we're doing

we're doing just about just about the best of the bonded the love this this mess

this mess we did we this mess we're to learn to learn a practical what I'm practical that practical that can

do you know we're doing we're doing we're doing that's the thing that's we're interrisem to let's

we're interrisemos to what we're humans human beings bond compassion tolerance love

respect and that we could act, to work, to work, together in this planet

in the you know, we're going to get into but it's that's not, but it's that the argument in

but it's not, it's a problem of this, is precisely the suffering. I'm, and so, and that's what I think, and not just that's what you're saying to me,

for that's a father-simo, I think we'll do it. But the people don't do it's just to say just the concept culturals that we're trying of this God, equistrian, and tak, tat, tat, tat, ta.

They're permeing in who we're doing, if I'm so I pinto this pared, here, right, I'll do a cap of a picture, well, there's a mark here on

the mark of Mark, Anthony Regil, no? And if I'm going to be doing so a psaluret, but be doing so in the nature of what was in the area at the

thing, what you're trying to do it's to tap in the looo, no, we're going to to understand what was what is this oyo, to get it,

and start to do it to do you. I'm going to do you know, we're going to do you're saying, is that we're,

I'm, I'm, but, you know, you know, you're doing, when the father, you know, I'm really,

a great alibi, and I know if you're so you're when you're the, the garden of the Eden,

no is a little bit physical, neither the life, nor the sky, are places,

are things, so are, so, so, so, so, so, just,

They're explaining. Because they were in the modus written to the end up I'm going to be for me that's an enormous advance. Well,

I have questions today about that I'm asking so I'm like to read before I'm going to get a soliloquio

if no, if no if no let me that we can let us go back. The father

mentioned in terms of suffering and here and here in the practical there's something

something an individual, an human, that's a person, who passed for a suffering murder, so much of the first, what was the first of a the process meditative of seven years? When he commenced his exposition, said, Sarvatarmatuka, said, all the reality of suffering. Because, because the Samudaya,

what is the origin of the suffering. And the origin of the suffering just the just the we're here the four

with aferraming is the anel and the armion and the identity and the truth. And very very beautiful,

what you say when one's when one when one is open, and when one looks

your past with compassion, when one looks your and you when one can work

with the anel and the afferamient comes also the possibility cognitive, not religious,

transcendental, of power to eliminate that's a state cognitive of clarity, the acceptation

of one or of the other, and to be a part no dialogue meditative, that is the third noble truth.

The fourth is the method. Okay, some questions that I'm I'm in I'm in, that I'm

not all the religions, would be not the truth to say, are the different, to get,

to certain dogmas and the And that me, that's me, that's

much good because I'm in our culture, that's primarily Catholic,

Christian, the church can play a role in helping to help to help

us and doggmas that is that's that's that's really,

my heart, my heart so, because then in the moment that you know, that's a little bit of

a man, a, and alas, and col, and we're, think that is a thing

more internal, psychological. So, that's something more more practical with what

I'm a question, I'm a kind of a world that's not a way and

the I don't have no possibility to to make decisions and I

think I'm a victim of the circumstances versus a co-creator of a reality more

a more compasive that accept to the people gay, that accept

the differences of the form to think, the Papa

Francisco what he said when they asked about the people about the my objective

no, my objective, no, I mean he's he's not even that's

that's because the theme is a mar in best to be to be or just that is

it's not, or it's, the objective is to love, so what? So,

what you can't say about this opportunity that we have to let's

certain reglas very rigid that they're that they're they

separation. I mean, I mean, I think it's, it's something that's a lot we're doing if we're now.

Now, if it's real, I think I, that's, there are, there are things that are

things that's, I think, I mean, the evolution is a fact that is a probable and

that we can't negate, no, for putting a fact scientific, no? So,

there's certain things that we can't say in certain way, that are dogmas

scientifics, so, like the Big Bang in a certain way, or the evolution, or, or the fact

of that there are certain types of of the other than there's, so those are, those are

not, dogmas scientifics, are the are realties in si. Yes. So,

are the obviously, and for so I said I was I said I don't don't know

to help to help to help the evolution, for example, it helped much to the faith,

to The mode of create of God not is simply, there's a man, but it's a

creation evolutionary in the which is a way, because the science helps to understand it. The psychology,

for example, has helped to understand, for example, what is a depression. One person that is a,

that's a person that's that's a very little free in their mode of those elements emotional, the elements

emotionales that, they do things that, that not not, not, not, not,

they're in their capacity to do it. So the way in how the church to get to

those people, has changed, has changed, and has, to help us. So, all that go to

is, the science, a much to the faith, a, a, the church in

general, and I think to all of all this, but also, is what I

think, we think we could we're to understand all, that we can help

to the science to to go more than simply what I see, not to be osada in investigate

more or in to go to look to what I'm to get to my nose.

And in that aspect, the faith can help to help to help understand better to

human and can help to help to be to be to be a human. Because

not it's simply a cumul of atoms if it's a person that for what is

and what I think is created for God individually, amada for God individuallyally.

So I have to love and respect that person individuallyly for sure what is, be a who

be it. Practique what practique. Practique what practic. To the person, and that is one thing

that I really was a much when I did I'm going to talk. I think in the I don't know I'm here to

help to the people to be better. in my system of Crencies the Creeing in God

to help a person to get the God that really is a more and that's to help to help to to get a

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in my humilde opinion and I know I know I'm going to go over in YouTube that's

that doesn't not us that are that are that's these or dogmas very

that that doesn't to evolutionar the the concept of the and the

concept of the back autoestima okay is when I go and

I go for my my cause for my great culpable, the famous golpes

of the fecho, that's contrary to what the psychology modern does know.

Because it's because it is a lot of very basic. It's that I think that's the

man. So, is that when all exaggeration is a bad. And when

it's bad said, I said, Odin, I sometimes have to

reprend to my child, because I'm to be a good

to be a good good. The Culp in a good

is good, too to take responsibility Because if you know, to know, to know, to say that's going to be it. That's not, because if you know, you know, they're going to reprending to

their children, are creating little delinquents, but never nobody has said, no? That's responsibility. It's responsibility. Exactly. But the fact of you, recognize it, also, it's good. Yeah, because I said, oh, yeah, I'm going to

get the pata. Yeah. And if I don't know what I know what I'm, I know, I'm just to me do you, not just to you're saying, know, or so, if you're doing this mal, no.

I have to have to have to be the conscience of that I'm the way. When exageras

too the cause is what is what is bad. When you too, the goodism for to

put in a manner, also, it's a word clave in all the life is the

word equilibrium. In the moment, there's there's there and we

do we're in the way, we're to be, well, yes, the two

parts can set a san psychology and a faith well-vivied is when the person florese in that aspect.

And there is where the time of the compassion. Of ver me that I committed errors, I'm responsible of many errors that I've committed, but also be with compassion because I was doing the better effort

with what I saw so that's where I'm going to say, I'm culpable, I'm not, but I don't meresco. It's that, for example,

I, you know, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're we, we're sent us to confess and I

the first I do do I'm going to sit to confesser is you're to be because the

people are you're talking what is more suyo what is what they're what they're that they're

that's so I'm not going to just to the person I'm going to say to that person

you're much more than that you're you're much more than you can be

better than so so so so so so so If your error not you define no

you're your or your no you're no you're no you're like that but you're but you're

but it's part of your life because it's a reality so what you do you're so that's

so that's very important to say it but but you always based in you're very

very great for what you're because I do it's God does that God does

God does do you all this other one of us so that the time of

self important in that can help much when really

the accent in where it's a point in the in the budism how it's the time of the

self- the time of the new meresco to God or no I'm sorry I'm

having said not I'm not a question it's a question is it's a I'm not

not I'm when I'm not I'm when I'm when I'm when you're having to receive a

service devas that are the gods locales those the because

because they atrapados in that in-simimimement. Well, having a claried to this and even it's not

a little irrespectu- but it's a little the cosmovision budist, centralizing all in the

naturalness of the mind of the beings. So, basically, when it about the

thing, a little would be a notion and we enter into the concept of dignity.

The dignity basic of all the human, the biodiversity, the animals, what they are the

people, the So when you recognize dignity in you, not going to transgresser to the other because you have dignity and the other

has dignity. So if there models, from you transgress, you can't purification karma, not in a manner manipulative or

manipulator, but in arras of a health mental. Like you, I did this, as the father, a metedure

of pata, it's to enter like in being an adult. One, dignity, two, the second

this first is the first is the first time the second the second is a decency yeah

not just not just you know you're very decent you're compas you're unvers

you're patient um you know you're this ideal of compassion universal

is what we're we're we're just we're just decency in second is

the third is a important is the empoderation Abishika there have to empoderation

to say there poverty-cito is a bobo, I'm going to have a misericordia. No, have to empower

families, institutions, to women, and identities sexual. There are to empower to the

human to that cance that cance that but I'm back, but I'm subralliont

and that is the perfection natural. That's the name a Zochchen andyy yoga. And the perfection

natural is that you have that cognition basic, all the things in that context

we can to start but we have all these facets dignity, not transgreed

to the other, decency, be compassionate, be able to us and the other because,

as a trumper-rimpocheo said, grand part of the chaos in the world is

because not we not appreciate to us so you, it's that I'm that I'm

nobody me will care and the world is going to the world is

the universe can explain in terms of vibration frequency and energy. How

you're when you're mentally, the frequency that you trys and what you manifestes.

Well, then the empowerment social, individual, and finally the perfection natural,

that comes from the perspective of to get to get to the genuine condition of

the one and of all the people, without the necessity of that that someone

to be observing, and very respectable, who create

for Before to continue with the podcast I want to ask you think you think that

you're doing we're going to get to get to our own but something when

we're going to do that we're doing our own our habits we need to we're we're

to start us and then try to all right sound very but the problem is that in the

problem is that in the reality, all care that's our mind that in the noncino

is where we can't tracassar, to do the ridicule, and not say the syndrome of the ISI, and if me equivocal, and

if I'm bad, and if I'm bad, and you get a paralysis of the analysis. And there's where the fear, it

is where the great difference between your dreams of reality or not to do it, is to learn to the mind

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And now continue we're with this episode. Something that I want to put in the mess about those things about the

stuff, that are things that are is the religion historically has put it in the case. The fault is correct. One has to feel

a problem. I think you can't, me it seems that can't quit the cause to quit the emotions of the human, those emotions.

And, um, I think, every time I'm a demadden, then then I'm a better, I'm going to get them to get them to,

because if we're in a, not you're going to do you, not you're doing, I'm talking to do, I'm talking, I'm talking,

I'm, dialogue, it's dialogue, it's dialogue, Of the new. Okay. I'm sorry, every other

every other every other every other every other no, no, no, the real, if I'm sorry,

to say I'm well, digarmel, you, don't know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm able to

say, I'm able to say, I'm asking, then you're just to how I'm how I'm

if I'm, if I'm, if I'm, let me ask, let me, let's the present, let's say, let's say,

is, what's the, This is the present. Since the past is in this moment exact. Here. Here. So, the present.

The present is here. We'll go. We'll start. Because no. No. 1.45 value pito because

right I don't understand. Regrease us to the question. No, we can. Exist. The past. And exists. And the present

is a very very great. I don't think that all those postures are respectable. I think that there are

unhingas for the human and for the society. I think so much much more with this

positiveism of if he is that is it is a well,

we're not. There are things subjectivas, there are things subjectivis, and there things subjetives

that can be able to be able to the way and the way and the thing. I question these things

because, for that's not I'm in nothing, because the responses not me satisfy.

And I think the great problem of the human and the religions is that we we're trying

to try a tool and a thing that not us resolve all to do. What we

will be all is, reasoned every one of the things that

we've I'm in the way we're we're living and for that we're not a Bible where you're going to you're not a religion and a

postulat where it's got to you need a basic where no where not so you actuess so it's basically where there's

there's a castig or there's or no no or there a response of you're going to you're going to the end of

the time no, but there's simply here in this life the the result of your

fact's what I what I think is what what I'm that I'm don't know for so I I'm partidary and for

so I don't like it. There are things that can't respecters and one has to get to get

in arms to do it and to do you know and I'm to do with that totally

because I don't permit certain things that for me are that is evident

that are that's not a no, I don't me never no more I'm not

but I'm can't try to go to I'm I'm I'm totally I'm

I'm I'm here I'm I'm I'm going to say because me going to reagan.

You're going to say, I'm going to no, but it's no, I'm going to do, I'm to do this. I mean,

then I'd refutania and it's an, so like you don't do you know it's like because if it is it's

when we're there's listen, listen, listen, you're still, you're saying to say,

you're just you know, that's the God, that's the that's about, that's all that's the

every time you're doing, because you I don't believe. For that. So, so, for that we're doing religious.

And so we're talking of that concept. If not we're doing between primos and our people, we present as well, we present as well, we're saying,

we're talking, we're talking, of what we're talking. Well, don't, we're talking to God, then I'm sorry, I'm saying

that was that I'm saying that's that was the thing, we're saying, we're talking, we're talking we're talking about the experience

of the life, of the, of my way, to, to what I'm, what I'm doing, what is, how I can't functionar in a world

of tantas ideas encountered. The episode, no, the episode, no, the episode, it's not a name, there's a matter, there's a matter. But we're, we're,

we're in postures of a religion. All this that you have to say, what you're doing, all this, because we're here, what we're the

murder, ta, tat, so the questions universal is that all the beings that we're doing the response, in a religion or in a book or in your experience proper or into or to be it.

But, you know, the people, not us, we don't ask us all the time, especially when we're going to be a good, especially when no there's money and we're going to do things, especially when the things difficult

and you're going to, you're going to say, how, how arm this rompecabas? Of that's the matter, not it's not about God. It's, it's about, to find, explore, responses in different forms

to think, that us that helps to function better as a human in this

experience physical, unique, or that's going to be to repeat or material or spiritual

or spiritual as far. But here we are, the that's the matter of the world,

when it's when it's when it's when it is the question about, the questionament the questionament

yeah from the rational, what is my origin, what is the purpose of my

life and what is the ultimate, what is the idea of the absolute.

So this that's what you about the when we're when we're in the ultimate last year the first

the first the first thing in a place in Turkey that's called Gubeckli Tepe is to make a temple dedicated to

the murder in Gubeckli Tepe is the temple religious more ancient of the humanity and what has to be

with the death. Why? Not because there you know that was the not.

No, no. For suppose that no. What I want to point to do I think

know that nobody have the knowledge of this but it's a inquietto profoundly

human. So I'm coincid with that they put in craneos and put in one,

one, one, one, one, one, and they're men paleolitical.

Is it is a very interesting to recognize this part in the plenocel 21

that if we're we're we're unquieted desconnected traumatized and

and profoundly we're going to say anxious to to be able to exist to the origin and the origin and the person is always

the reason and the time. But it's a man. Now what I want to make to understand here,

what is what you want to understand to you, is that when you're to say, you're

you're you're stills you're not you're not going to you're not going to and you're

not going to start you every time that you're not you're to say, you're going to you're

you're you're going to you're you're not we're talking of God. We're talking the postura that we're

a postura that we're a and there's a geodocristian or Catholic or tal and there's a rabbi no

he's not because in that postura this this this issue that we're this thing is call it

another thing is you'll call it because if you say you're because I'm you're going to talk with your idea of

God and the rabbi no back salta with your idea of God because then every people to defend

their idea of God and there there as people. And if, if you're going to be a religious, then you have to

your book, you know, is that this book is that bad. I mean, but the new not castigua, but the Mio

premia, but the Mio has to be, so, so, then when those are you there's, there's, there, there's,

there's a, there's a reason, to be, based on your things, you know, I'll say

a thing, I'm saying a thing, I'm just, I'm just, what he's, what he's, what's the

thing, is this thing, I'm, the thing, I have all the responses and here I

have all the and then it's it's like it's like, but I'm like there's there's a rigidess of not

to not put fluid and flexibilize to other ideas. It's that for that's I'm ateo

because that's an idea is an thing of a set up not a thing of creencers is this system of

this system of this is not I don't know that we're doing I think that I'm gonna no I'm no idea

What I'm saying is not you put in a number that you're talking, like every time that I say, you're saying, because you're not you God.

So, no cares to use the word of God because for you God is something. So, no I can't say, because then you can't do

when I'm going to say, but how God said, but how God did this in the Antigua when you say, you say,

that's not you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, so you know,

I'll say let's talk, and I'm to say, and you ask them to something more analyzing.

Or at the concept of different from you're just we're getting to you. We're going to we're getting to the more of the way from from

it's different. Someone's going to get a one of course from the world. It's like the thing I'm in all the world.

I feel like you see that's very good representation of a state of a not God. And we're again.

We're going to get to be one of the first questions. We're talking about the we're talking about the aspects

of the aspects of the stories. I mean to never serve if Mujalaya Maraguan said

or something two hundred thousand years. No, you can't because you're saying that you are the reason and you're herder of a culture.

So, also in that context, the same language that you know, he said, and we're doing this

knowledge. Well, but... But... But... No. I've tried a

little to move the postes to not centrars only in something in something, I'm,

insist, respectableissimo, as the concept of God, but in the one and another other way, we're going to but we're going to,

but we'll go to God. But we'll, let's see we we're going to go to see what we're not. If you're saying,

no. If you're going to, because the sky's respect. So, because I don't know what I'm going to do you know what

after the life. My apportes, no, I don't know all the questions that you have no idea. But of that you say,

to do you think what you think the you think the that we're saying, and that we we know, and we're not and we're not.

Perfect. No, no question. From my point of to be my point of And I'm completely that's the

problem that we have in the humanity that we're we're going to discusses and we're that's not

that's not God, that's God, that's that's Him Maoma, that's right and there's there's a solution.

Okay, the can't that's just what does do you think the scientists? You think of the people are all

to say, yes, yes, yes, it's respectable. No, the scientifics to garran a gulpes and the

great scientists in the illustration were religiousos. And Manuel Kant was a religious. Baruch Spinoza was religious.

Yes, Isaac Newton also was really a so. No, so it's it's a

important to understand a little what I'm also that also there's a element

spiritual respectabilism and is what we're trying to evocate the respectability of the people of the

people, always when you say, there's there's a toleration, no, there's

a positiveism categorical. Now, now the father, I'm not the idea. The idea

The idea is that we're not that we're not obsesionated in Padre. Padre Yodin and playing ping pong God, no, God, God, no, God.

There are other elements more enquequeeerers and less polarisantees. Exactly. What I wanted I said I was that I'm very

that's important and I think what I'm going to be doing right to think I to even I don't to convince you to convince

to absolutely nobody because every every person is in the postura and not going to do this in the debate.

What I'm doing this about what I am that is for the people that is for the people who is

is with the pressure on on the time that someone is saying, or he's just going to be to do you know, and that's

the time in the silence of your computer of their son, or irasputs to their and he's question a

question a religion and that question the question in the reason, what he resue like the reason, but,

but it's on the way, from the way, you know, you can't know you can't

know, you're you're doing, because the thing to get a not just for the reason,

it's not just for the person, it's my dad's is doing this because What you want, what you What is what you're doing? What is what you're saying?

I'm not going to be inojured. One has to be able to conventer to your mother, but surelyly, some alcoholic that's our discussion will say, a cabron, a little bit of a lot more to do you have to do that. That's the chishter. Not convincing us to not even if we're going to convince us.

We're going to conclude. We're going to come to hear. If we're going to go ahead. We're going to start. Well, we're all together in that we're all in that we're going to make a world. We're going to make more. tolerance,

acceptation, compassion, and evolutionar as a human, with an intention to create peace,

with the animals, with the animals, and with the planet? We're in that?

From the from the point of each of the people, what are the pathos, to what we

finally would the ensignance original of the great masters spiritual of all the

story, the Buddha, Christ, and there there are others in other creencers.

What could we do start? I'm going to start. So, I'm going to say what I've said, it's

been a thing. It's been a question, but I think it's been a thing we need to see, to see, to be

going to our people, because, of really, we're in a world very polarized and very

very serrado in that I think this and point. One, two, so, if, see,

uh, to, to be to be a other person like someone who needs of me in the sense of positive of the

word, to which I can't to put to something and not a rival, no, and not a

rival. And I can't do put to all what I think that is the best. I think

are two points fundamental. And third, I would also, also to think

to be so that you think you because then, for the least I see the, the

anarchy spiritual, for when it's a way it's a way, it's too a good

for the point of because if not all is not all is permitted, so I think that's a

thing, I think it's about the first I'm you're a so, you're in that aspect

of what you think, but at the same time, be to the other as someone

has been and not like someone and you're and then you're to help

to help to help to the person because this world can

change a heart to a person to change in what you think

you can help you're not because you're not because you're that's a way

so you're a better but you're in the way of the question to be a question. your point of this point to me

is very important because that we subrrails, the fact that, even the felicity property,

depend also of fact, and give a good or dignity to the other. That is an element very

important. The second point is the compassion. And there a compassion that is directed to

the senses, a compassion directed to the reality that is also,

that's also, in where we have been heard, we've heard,

we've wanted to take more the microphone, no, we've seen as the

guion, but I think that we're in really a really good so I'm not pretending that someone

will be able to say to look at the conclusion of conclusions, as well, the opportunity to hear us. And finally,

the compassion without referent, that is the part mystic, yeah is the mindfulness, where all

the people, all the people, just a through the process, yeah, so through the mur of the

moment, just to the movement, just a from the music or of the art can enter in a state

that's that's the way and finally the third is the respect. And I

think it's something from the human has got to the capacity to produce food

and unfortunately to produce arms of producing technology also to

try for us more dignity human so so I think

respect compassion and interdependences are the three points that

I want to to give to the question Rodin? A me

my is important to get to a better to get a not a topic, because I think

the human is going to think it's going to and we're learning we're a lot of our future

to be able to be but I know that is angustiant for the people, a bit of

a lot of sometimes we don't think we're the person, what I'm accept the angstia, accept in the

angstead of unsperated we're we're trying to do solosos the life and if

not we're we're in contra to put us in the other than someone else, no,

of God, no, of Maoma, no, of our hands. We can't get

to get a angustia. We know we know the things that we're not the certainces,

with those you have to medire other people, that you serve, and that the other

them, the word to the no more, but you respect, no, but, that's

actively in the sense of to be tollerer what is tolerable and not

tolerable, and not tolerable, the the the maltrato, the violation of the rights, to use a woman and these things terrible,

these things terrible, in all the religions and in all parts, atheos or not, to try to understand that what you creas, is what you think. Agarate of you. And, for the last, if you're going to believe in God and you want to believe in God,

it's a good, that's a good that's a good that's a good that you help, that you can't, that can't make a regla, that you help to the

the other, that your God not separate of the other, that is a God that's a God that's a other, that's

a good a good is permissive, a God a chance of a car to get a person, and that's a other,

a God, a other. A God, separatista, and that's a life in the angustient. Thank you.

Much thanks to the three. We're just a lot of all the time. We're not people,

and it was to be to be to be there moments algios, It was to

be able to be interruption. It was to be able to chocker. But as as well you know,

that's the exercise. It's what we're to do that's the talk, to be able to do that's because I'm

sure that you're doing us in case, you're in live and the four, we're going to think to

this. I'm going to get to the three today and my case. Surely I'm

certainly during the four, 48 hours repasas repasant and trying and and looking

to learn. And I'm doing these these exercises. Thanks. I'm a brother with much carino.

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