El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 240 - Superando el cáncer de mama - Verónica Toussaint y Dr. Gerardo Castorena

Episode Date: October 17, 2022

Octubre es el mes de la concientización sobre el cáncer de mama y esta semana llega al podcast una mujer valiente y llena de amor que ha enfrentado una dura batalla contra la enfermedad y hoy inspira a miles de mujeres a salir adelante. Ella es Verónica Toussaint y la acompaña el Dr. Gerardo Castorena, quien nos comparte cómo reducir el riesgo de padecerla y qué hacer si se hace presente. El miedo, puede paralizarnos ante las situaciones más difíciles de la vida. Aprende a ganarle en mi clase gratis 👉: https://marcoantonioregil.com/miedo-pod       Sígueme en: Telegram: marcoantonioregil.com/telegram   Sigue a Verónica Toussaint en: Instagram: @veronicatouss    Sigue al Dr. Gerardo Castorena en: Instagram: @breastcentermx  Web: https://www.mexicobreastcenter.com 

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still not she to do you when I said this is cancer I'll do you know my

my poor enemy is the cancer my my peer enemy is his mom her mama

her her mom her mom her because all the a better advice,

and take this and come to this. So, so it's been very very good in this process,

has been very very but the only you've been in the that's... October is the MESRAE is the month

of the cancer of mama. Every year, more of two millions of in the world are diagnosed or detected with

cancer of mama. And the statistic is very interesting because if it detect a time, if it's

able to manage, more of 70% of these women could have a life. And of this

matter this episode. Today, a great actress famous, with her a heart

open to talk to our experience with the cancer of mama and also a medical expert that is going

to help just to understand to understand and to get to get to get to get back to the hotel

Fiesta America, his life to the television, the theater, the cinema, and recently, to the media digital. In 2017, participed in Oso Polar, the first film in Mexico filmed in their totality with a cellar, the which he valued the first

premium, Ariel, of his career. Actuality, Verro is to the air through the chain of image, television, and in your channel of YouTube. Today, here to tell us the inspirational story of how survived the cancer of Mama.

Veronica Tousaint is in the podcast. Verito, Hermosa, welcome to the program. How is it? Oh, that's emotion. For fin it's

until it's Mark Anthony. Markito. De Veras that's until I'm saying it's

I'm saying to be able to you. Well, I'm really I'm going to say, I mean, I'm

I'm sure, I'm sure, not from I'm sure. Dino, Dill, do it. No, no. I'm so

Chabelo, Dill. No, no, I said the Mago Frank, but no important of that.

It's another other costal. But, but, but, that I'm that I'm is a

communicator incredible and much to to learn to see that's a very good. Very much thanks.

Of all the whole of your words and I'm like to come as another to talk about a very intimate, very personal and

that I know that's the time to help to help to get to this or could be going to this or they're

a family that can't be a family, that can't be a lot that's a momentably is something

is something with the people, even to the even, even as to the perritts but how we don't accompany us, what

we're saying, what we're going to hear of someone, of usher, and, so what's the so that's what we're important, and for that's

super important, that there's this microphone and that's able to open your heart and to tell us these problems. So, so thank you,

thank you, all the person. To start, before, before you, I, I want to, I want to

when you're when you're talking, when you're talking, how you're what you're, what is for you, what has been

for you? Diggate that today, today, I'm just to me

just a question, and then they're like, we're going to talk about

to do your cancer. I'm, I'm, no, no, it's a tumor with cellulas. For me has been

very important not identification with the word and I say, my

cancer, no, I, I, took, the year last, me diagnostics

with, you know, You know, like to slind me? Because I don't want in my life. So, no,

I don't want to do it. But it is important that that's important, that's a thing to be a taboo.

And me also it's also important to say, I say, I prefer that you know, I think,

you have, every will find what he has more more sense, I prefer

deslindar me of the possession of the time. It's a experience of your

life. That's experimented the cancer. Yeah, it's like, no, no,

you know, you're going a legion of the knee, I know that I'm going to know that

nothing to but it's but from what me has a sense is, I've been a guise,

no, no, you know, you know, you're not so, I'm, so,

no, you know, not you're, not you're getting to know, like a little,

a little, a new year not is a condition of a , that's that's the life, but

all the time we're living things that we know that's that we're doing that's and we're

we're doing that we're to grow well, so I think that's the sense of being a

growing with this experience and to help to others to help us to not and not from

the, well I know I know I'm just I think this if you serve goodissimo and

you're you're and you understand what elections there there's a question I'm going to

because there's a question, because there people who are like cancer, you're going to be like cancer, you're my enemy, you're not going to

get to get it. And there's a great master. Even, of some way, thanks. But I don't want, obviously

I don't want to get a question, because that's, that's the final, like the conclusions, but there we're

just a sembrated. But, but, quote, us, obviously, when we know, when it's

when it's, when it's, when you know, it's what says, you're, Salen the news, he was going to

do you, but to you, how you did it, where you're when you when you're a lot,

when you're a lot and then I'm going to my study, my mastography, I don't

think it was the mastography and a ultrasound I don't I'm but I said,

it's a two or three months, because at the maybe it's for the

vaccine or is not been in that in that moment and I'm no me I'm I was I waited the three months.

At the two months, I said, this is to like this. It was a ballita. No, no, it was a ball. A pola.

A pola. A pola. A pola. But there was so I thought. No, this, no, this no. There's a

there's, there's a, mm-mm. This no. And, and, and I did the studio. And then the doctora was a marvell

and let's I can't say in the community, the doctors, the doctors, the specialists that were

in the community, were, were, were, were, were, And that doctora

I saw, no me I'm just I'm a really a so I'm a so that's like I'm

like this I'm like I'm a photo, I'm a see here the ballat so not it was a

kind of say I think there I think there a lot no no Dura? Or blandita

how I'm not I'm not I'm I don't I know I'm I'm

the really No no do you no that's this, like,

so, or the more if it's a lot of, but, well, so you know,

I'm going to be the question. In my case, no, I'm do it.

And so, so, so it was that my did the biopia. And, for example,

this is something that me, it's a doctor, the doctorate that I did a

still not he had to to be to know, when I said, this is

cancer, I, you know, I'm, and I did you I said, but if still don't me

do the result of pathology, because I've seen much of this and that's, no I do. But, you know, that's,

that maybe she can't have that that's a point of view as a patient, that they'd say that that's,

without the other, this more, you know, because then you're still you're the better.

To me me have been found in the appendice, a tumor a 20 years before.

And then then what is that this this time when this year this this year

when this this year's, I'm I'm going to get to, in a while, you know, I'm going to work. It's a friend, I'm looking at, you know, in the consultory, and in the salient, and the way. And so, how much, it's the way. I mean, it's the way. I mean, it's just, it's, it. It's, it's, it's, it's never, it's a lot. It's, it's never, it's a lot. or that was fear it was anxiety there's

there. There's there there in images horrible of you know

I'm I'm I'm um what what what I'm what I'm

what I'm what I'm what I'm sure sure you're up you've heard a I've heard

I've seen a lot of a case of a and certainly when you you're you're

to be what you know what's I'm you know that's that's that moment

we've heard what's you have to do you do you have a mastography you know

you're in a ball you're doing and you're in a biopsy and then then then after

you know a doctor who they're in a old old or that's a child or that's a case of

or all they're all they're so all so all so all so all so everything

is much information is much information and then also in my case what I

was that what I did what I did what I diagnostic like the oncocasting

that was to go to go to see to doctor's with my studies in the

time. I'm in the terminal that's never you know, that's

the time of the that's the doctor to do the this doctor to do you this doctorate

so this how much time? It's a time. One a year.

One time. So, and that time psychologically I'm imagine, before,

before I to start to start to look, the I don't, no, I don't

know, it should have been Or maybe it's a lot a little bit, because always in your

head the stories are more for the night. Also there's where it's where it's

to attack the thing that's a big but they're in other other ways, but I know,

I know for what reason we've always the things, we're

and you and you and you do you do you do you know, I'm

think that what I'm not you don't you don't you don't know

I mean so I I think of that that I'm a couple. My mom is a

preteau I'm a question of a fortune to have a family, my family, my friends,

always were super-pendientes and tec with therapy psychological, for so I think that I

did I work that that same to be to come to prevent before before the

diagnosis, because that Bola not normal. But what I did I know.

And you did it the news the real you're in person in person and then

I'm and I have a friend doctor that me I said I'm

I'm I'm I'm to I'm that if you were my one

with with him you'd you'd so so so it was

so it was the long casting and I did

various options and for me because all coincide in the same treatment, that's

but there some of those some of the things that that said, that's not that's why was the

that was the with the and what were the things that were the things that I've had a triple

negative is the type of tumor so, so then all all coincidian

in that had to give to chemotherapy first to do more chico

and then then you can do it and then predisposion. I'm doing that you're doing a domesctomia

bilateral so to quit to the two mamas and so you take you're so you quits to these

other tumors so so I don't, I don't I'm quite with clarity the terms

medical, but what I do you do you can say, every every time, and then you say, is more,

even more, you're going to get to be very furious when they're saying that that's better,

good, good, good, good, good, and I, I'm, what I'm,

what I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, so, like, this,

to enter to say, I don't want to say, so we're not so we're to do with

but I'm going to give with that yeah, and it's very complicated one of you know,

and not living with that you know, I imagine that one of those questions to the medical

was, what possibilities I have to solve me of this, what possibilities I have to do that

what I'm going to be sure that the triple negative is a tumor very aggressive,

and however, it's a very well, it's a not a not really a notice to have

a triple negative, but thanks to the science, the chemotherapy has that the triple negative

has a little bit of a little to do that to do that and then then the radiation

then. Contemplastic or you didgeron to someone of some of a medicine

alternative because I don't, if when you do a carrow or it does it

all, they're a recipe, I'm I want to imagine when you a cancer. And there are

there are very alternative and that's better at the institute no-se-cant- and then they're in

some bombs of vitamin C and there cases of much-exit and then there was to where I

get to this point in where I'm I'm going. Because certainly there are therapies

alternatives that functioned to work to be the part medical and then then I

get to the part of what congruent. And it's, a me dole the

head and a day I'm a pomada of the tiger and another day I'm a aspirin

and I'm so I'm that I'm a campechano between the science and the what you

want to what you know. The traditional and the alternative. So, for me

it was important if to make the case of the science, for that is invented to be

to be to be or the surgeries too and the and And,

but, also, I mean, and what the, what passes I had I to continue,

in my style of life, too, to come to do you know, so your decision was...

To make chemotherapy, that were 16. To keep the program traditional that they were,

we're, we're going to make a tumor, and then we're He what he does is with with from, from, from,

from, from, from, um, cause, uh, and, camp magnetic,

also, also, you know, also, the, of the chemo and all, you know,

and so, you're not, uh, adios, ados, ados, ados, uh,

things processedasasas that, that has been much sense, that's very exactly, exactly. And that's,

and that's, in the way I did know that I'm a bit

like that I'm like a life to get to get to get to

the other so I'm a dix to eat to eat a pan dulce no me

doesn't no no but it I'm like I opto my health

and it's no I'm no and why because I'm because I'm

because I did it the six chemios no like 14

for there for December of the year last. Perviste your

cabellied your no. Adelazate because I'm going to try to try to the diet

and the and the you put more saner obviously. Yes, I sent I'm very

very yeah independently of the chemio that also that also

not I don't do you to work also something in October I

took the decision to make the process for the process for

that was that for that just because you never you're going to

you're going to always it's like, oh, what's that's what that's that's

that's you're all right so we're so we're so that's when you to talk to a me

to be a responsibility to have a cameras and microphones and do something so more

than you know I'm going to I'm so that's my and get some

masterphics and say revisensens and say let's your amigas, to his mom,

to your tias, to our and we take a action of this in the

month of October. So, for that's the year I'm that you're

that you did you? No, I'm put it also, there's a technology

that's a car to a three-crow-cabey to a three-garde or three- and

I per- and I per-and- but for me, I've been many years I've rapped for a day

for my birthday and so it's like I'm like I'm I'm a not quite because I'm

I'm rapped I see but no in this occasion I decided opting for the

way to put me the casco that he sum a three to four to five hours

more to reposette in the clinic because it's one hour before before

the treatment and four hours after so there are many hours inverted

lav me the hair me with much I mean, I mean, really

the but for me was really not never to be a spego and never never a

cancer. I don't want to I'm I don't want to feel a more more energy.

I don't, I don't I've not, I don't, so, like this cinema

of horror that, there's there's there, there's a, I'm,

to be and I, and I went and I went and to do, I'm did the

times, I'm I was in the TV. What you were doing the TV? My program, that's called Quechulada, in image. Just, just,

I just, I just had my callation, or, or, you know, bochorn, and then, I'm normalized

the bochorn in the television Mexican, of, I, right, I'm going to have a bochorn with permission,

no? But, like, the people know what was going, so there was nothing,

nothing, nothing to there was, because this woman was, because this woman,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, but not know they'd

not have to know but I'm really a little bit of it's a little program,

then I'm doing a way to that's a idea, I'm I'm saying to try that I'm a passion and me

makes a sense and me a bit more to be more to be more than my car no,

obviously that's this and then for me it was an oasis and to come to work and to come from the

life and move from to one to the other and never I've ever to day my therapies I mean I'm

I did two times a week therapy psychological and acupuncture and the campbo magnetic but at the

leg of the So you did an combo a combo something integral I'm going to use in form combined

to all the things that they were the that they were the necessary and there there was

a ingredient very magic that never you've ever that I'm in the

way. You know you know you're in the middle of the of the chemios? Yes.

For there of the Chimio 2 yeah yeah I'm in an application

of a and I said I was going to go to total and to and to the

second set I was I was I'm to have to be to be

to I'm because I'm in the pastillo and she's

so he's so he's So, well, he said, And then I said, well, now is when you can't go ahead. And he, well, yeah.

Because if I didn't know what I'm going to confronter, he, imagineate, no. And, and, as, as, as, as, normally one, when starts to start you, you're in per-campaign.

No? Sure. You're in pre-campaign. And here, I started, like, in Lomas, taurinas. So, it was an horror. You wanted to, the candidate, you're dead.

Yeah, he was born. So, so, so I So, so I'm And so, decided, decided to accompany and, and,

was very interesting, because also the fact of the chemio, and then I said, hey, we're going to go,

we're going to and get me, and the day you, you had a day, too, you had a day,

too, wow. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But, but also, that's, but,

um, and, um, because, I'm going to now so, for one

a lot of what we're to be used to your version, but in the front, it's your

better version because no, I'm going to not, you're going to get to my way,

I'm going to get to my super vulnerable. Sin rimel. I know I could be to put a

rim, or those things that you say, that's, so, that's, so,

so, so, then, then, then, then I'm too, that's too,

the very beautiful. beautiful. And where you think this attitude? Because nobody's he's still

that's never and you came and you took to a form very be very very amorous for you? Where did

what came this? Who did you this? There's, there are there are some

images of the process in this clinic where I gave you the medicine

they said just that only can't just one I'm to all

my family that that was So my Papas were there those two It was a

very very beautiful because I did a little a bolsita and I asked the

people that I metier an object that for it was important in that they were

there so it's called the box of the and so that that I

did is every every I was I was I was I was on the

I'm you don't you You're going to say I'm going to say I'm going to Right,

we're going to And what I And what I said is that all the love that's transmutate the medicine and

curate to the cellulas. That's Mark, how are you going to do you're going? You're going to you're going?

The person that's not you're talking you're not you're not and it was and the first of the

the infirmary even said I'd you're I'm trying to my chemio and I'm put you

the box the chemio, the bolstita, and then my papas. And there always I

quivered because it's very beautiful. And we we'd just to that this would be

in an act of a great to have the medicine, for having to them. And because

we're just those 16. And there's a image that one that's in them, I'm

with my caskito and them and they and in those vanities one and over the other. And they're there and stood there

all my family and all the people that who me want. And not only that's the people that also the people that also knew, the people in red, the people that, I mean, I said, I mean, I said,

in the call on the call you, we're saying, we're saying, we're saying. So, so it's been very bendeced in this process. It's been very very strong.

But the only that I've been is love. So it's very It's very And also I've I've said That not because

I'm I'm I'm Riening No It's not It's not It's not

It's easy There's to Have to I'm much Garnas There Tochle Much

Cerebr And much For When when These And if I'm There's

And if It's I don't know, I'll say, I'll hear I'm going to I'm going to live this in my head,

until that I'm going to be going to be a pocus. Wow. I think we'll that we'd have a plaza

to your idea. How did you do you? I don't know. No, but it's that I know I think

we're going to we're going a story of a story of a lot. It's a story of of love. Because you decided to

live it like a story of love. And if I you to teach the things that's

that's you're you're in your love. A man. So, a friend

he said, he said, he was a mom before, that's a month of the

ballita, the lapis with, a piece, some, some, things that for the

people were really significant and that were there, and that for me this

is full of love. You know. And I thank you I'm for

for being so the aspects that you could have used to care to cure

the medicine the and the science obviously to eat sound or

to give love to a part of a party to ask to be because I

sometimes when I'm when I feel I'm know that just

the first the first that I mean I found in that tumor, I thought in therapy

and this, what I'm to learn? In this time, it was to learn to know how. Now,

I think was to let me be vulnerable. But that, from not to be able a bottle of

because you know you know, the, the, the, the, I'm not

to be, I'm not, no, do you know, car me, this, no, and when,

I, I know because when I divorcede I had to take the paper of going to get to start my own

and I'm my energy, a energy a energy very masculine to get to get to do and do you

and of I forgot to ask to say me help you do you guys me you're saying

who's who's who was in? Who did the abrara the bottle? Well thanks to

God I've always I've had been here in Daniela that he's

a time, she'd for example, she'd me chis my no,

even, we've went to a a new a Miami, and all the

piece was black of the department and I had just

and I'm, I, you, I, and, I, I, I, I, I'm, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, of my house and I went to live to a house of a house of

a house of I'm in remoderation all I'm not only my my body

but I'm my house and then my my family my what you

you know you just you just you know sub-rall that you did you

do you do you I'm I'm you could you you could you

do you is that normally the those those master's most

memorable What? What's what you of you, of the life, of the other, of God?

You know, now I'm my conference. That's, for one I've been been reticent

to write to write, and for other side I think to do and to talk to

but to see the images is very strong. There's there's a part that's over-

to be to be a attack of a other of the person, I'm

just the rascuos that I've but I know how so far so far so

I think if it's for something is for to keep doing so all my platics

and all the money and all the money that I'm I'm they're just just a diagnostics

studies, treatments operations even how's how it's reconstructions reconstruction

okay and well there was a day that I was I was going to give to give to give to have my chemio

and I'm to have to have to play with this and I'm to thank the possibility to have the

medicine not only that the not only that the insurance so that so, well,

I think that like all the people that has passed something that has

changed the is to help to others and that that also

also also also I said to see to see these images of this last year,

see the day that I did public, see the quantity of flowers, the messages, and give

me to know that we're going to I'm only, or not me feel or not

you know if you a little more, the panoramica, you know, there's a person that are doing to

say, so I'm so I'm really a very much decided to be alive. Something changed in you? Before and then, how could you say

that was the Veronica? How is the Veronica of now? What is the Veronica of her? That is not. I'm a master of yoga for many years. So, I've been a couple very flexible. That's so me has done to do you, don't know,

I didn't even though, in this time. A past that I don't have I had I don't want to do. I say, but I know that's medicine and I have to par. So, all my side

is the work. You see that I'm doing that I'm going to work. But it's

like the conscience, and a past of the tumor that was the time that I had,

I'm really that I'm going to be able a bit of a vestige because no me

cuted the mama because we're with my team of the doctors that

not that not were that I can't do I, in those days, I imagine

and I'm playing with the brazos here up, celebrating the life, celebrating, being a full, and

free. And I think that the things, that are what are doing, that are that they're

that they're so I do you do a style of life that me permit to be

being being a spiritual and having a practice of yoga and I imagine

that I'm have had been you, have No, no, no, no, no, I didn't want to do you to do a word. Okay.

No, I wanted to be your amy, the meditation for me is a tool that also a grand salavidas. Every time that's me salons of the haula, to govers to

get it's impossible. So, the days that me costed more to work were the days that not meditaba, for some extraia reason. So,

more well, to me, the type of meditation that I used is of visualization. For example, the radiations, you know, that's there, how not you can't move, and how the

respiration, I tend to normally to make a respiration more long, more profound. In the radiations, no could, because then the pulmon was expandia,

and then it was to be in the camp to radiar. So it was, please, not you do that. So, they were,

respirations more chiquities, but that also, too, so, is to dream

well. So how all going to do this chain of the more

I'm more I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm better and my my body

and my question. Why not I'm think it was that what I wanted to

let but the the answer not the cancer, but the answerance that you absolutely.

Absolutely. No. It's that, you know, from what I'd tell you to what I'd

to come to enter to my papa. That's what it is. To see what is. Behrless to get with his bolstits. My mom had to bea fruit, nuisces, all the part of mom nutrition. My papa, And so, in three years, I'd have, I'd have, I'd have, I'd say, what I'd have to have my papas. What I'd, lamentably, to pass by this, but to be her, and that you're doing?

And to have a family and a family and a family, also elected, I'm feeling profoundly agnated. And so, I've said, I think that also, I think that's, at the more

you know, maybe you can't but also, no, of any stupidness that's you're trepess and bye.

Today, when, there's a phrase that I said, when I saw when I saw all those

flowers in my house, it's like if was I just was just being

my own funeral and I want that I want to sound

creepy and and obscure. But it was very beautiful. It was to say, what I'm saying,

if I do today the cut of the case, I'm going to go with much tranquillity. And today,

more than a year, because if programs like this, you know, to help a life,

we do a good, thank you, thank you, much, much thanks, in this, in this second

opportunity that you, that you did you, that did you, the love of your family, and the,

the science, and all the team, all the rompe heads that

was a second opportunity in the where you're a little

to help to help to get a to get a question for the questions. For the

women, there are some of some of some of some of men, but basically for

the people that not he has done and that you he's I'm to say, wow,

I'm to give to care me for people that they are they're

they're in this moment are with that angus terrible, of what I'm to do you know, what you

do you guys? For those who not they've done they're and that's so, me it's

to do your and with the doctor, the fact, to we know, to us and informarned because then it's with

the gynecologist no, go with an oncologist and do you do your mastography that they'll revising well, get

and be taken and in past, I think we we have much me too a

mastographies and I the other day, I said, I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going to a little bit a lot of a bit of that's. So, I think it's super important

to share, not of those idiots, that they're that's that they're to do you do you're

to do you do you do you, revisence, not fumen that me parece and

that's a part of prevention is basic to do exercise. What we've always heard and that's always say, oh, if there's but, well, it's, yeah, it's true. Tomartone in serious.

Yes, if it's not. For the people that are being diagnosticated, without how time I'm going to, me it's also there there's a lot of

where the doctors, a sometimes you say any, you know, that can be a lapidary, but also there many cases that not

necessarily what they do they do they're there's many people there's not very

they're independently of the diagnosis medical so to be more clear with

what I think it is very important is if is if is being diagnostic

you do do you do you do you do you do you take you take

a car one to take the time to take the not sobreinformart.

I don't me to internet. I don't revise nothing. Because that information and that's over-exposition

does panic. To take the things with calm. And for me, I think the message most important in

this process is what you do pass. Not what to do pass to your mom no, what he does

a part to your what to do you do do you do you do you and the

life that you have given and your and the you do pass chimio and

reza. But if I think the thing of how we're about the thing that

comes to how we do the decisiones that we're and for the people that are

people, I'd say, I'd ask you because I think that's

going to look to look at the person to say what you need

you, how you do you do? Because a Sometimes is of you're

going to do do you do you do you do you see abrumated as a

problem but then I don't know so I'm so don't want to be reganing there

there are people there don't they're so they don't they're

there's really question how you you're well you're then

then then we're not they're not so so

if if a you do you do you don't ask

you you you say to the person, how you help? In other than you to confront your own own. I don't know if

I'm saying about this. I think it's fundamental to say to the person in question. How do you do?

What do you need? What do you want to? You're going to get you? You're going to me call? You know,

you know, and it's going to say, no, I'm just going to do you know, because a me me enojews that I'm

be to be being. You know, because no we know. So, I think I'm like, oh,

everything, all all this, oh, I'm going to do you know, the, you're a great-

no, I think that a girlerer are the mothers and they're married, and they're

14 jobs, that are those are those are the but I'm not

I'm, but I'm to make less to the people that's doing for a

process of this nature. I don't me I don't I revient the

legad or that you say, it's like, no? Because, it's like not like it's like,

it's like, oh, thank you to say, oh, what I'm, it's a idea, no?

It's that there's like, I have to say a little, and no, is to talk less, to hear more.

Exactly. So, so I think there today are much people who are, and I'm

say, is that my mom, is that, and I hear, and I'm, I'm, because it's

what you do you do you do you of the, of the doctors, of the alimentation, to make you charge of your own process and what you have to learn. I chose the

for what? And why me? For what is the sense of this? And what can't take part of this? Also, no is it peleaded the apprenticeship with the madrina. And what is the conclusion of this, in this moment of your life, where still is in, still you're in treatment? Yes, still me felt.

months of chemo-tomata, that, for the same, but it's not different to have bochornos, it's not even to be too much of things.

But you're just being, you're going to. Yes, sure. And yeah me urge that pass in these three months and

to be a soleer and to be these stupidas things that we're for a show. That, not do for a

not do for that we're doing, not for the we're doing, not for that we're that we're

that we're in this moment, what is the sense that has encountered? Well, it's very

chistos but I think a sometimes I'm distrable, but I'm to remember me and say it

to do the people that me're saying oh, no, not you're going to say,

oh, is that I'm not, there's a there's there's people that there's going to

be very well, cacki. Yeah. Um, um, I think I think

to be much more fiel and honest I think my body not me

not be chance to make mensa with what I'm for well if I

know I'm noja or me put a and what I do with that

and for so that that that that we're

that we're thank thank for to share. Thank you. For example,

Veronica Tussend, we'll give an applause with much, much a good, thank you. Very, no, he

got to be with this second part of the podcast came the Dr. Gerardo Castorena, that is one of

the menacees, is one of the medical most exitos in the treatment, in the management, and

the way of cancer, and we're going to know, but we're going to get here to the point of the point of

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in where convivive the medicine conventional and the medicine complementary. The doctor Gerardo.

Gerardo. We said we said that we said we're just Gerardo. Yes, here came

Gerardo. Gerardo. What do you want you want to say to Veronica

because I'm very, very, very convoyed to hear

my I'm I'm doing to do this I'm to do

to study the cancer of and what is the

way to the people how we have to

live and in 25 years never had been there

I have been so so so so of

the heart like I right. If all the women could live

their diseases, his lives with that philosophy, another guy us can't do you know,

thank you really, what thing more is a I was to say, what a beautiful

to be a beautiful. What a beautiful see that the science and the love and the

alternative? How is the word that you know, there's the word that there's a noncologist

alternative. I think, well, I think the I think the human is integral. I think

you can't you can't talk to a way or of the other. In

all we in all us in some moment of our things we've taken to has

functioned. So the radicalism are very bados. Toma what you serve in the moment that you

serve. And learn. In your clinic, just we're just we're saying this here in your

presentation. You're the director of the first clinic in Latin America where you're

not only the medicine traditional, but also with other options. So, I'm

I always I've created that the concept of that the health is merely

physically is incorrect. How many does dole nothing, we're doing, we're

doing, but not you're very, you're inhojated, you're inogated, you're in a know, you're something that's

a medicine is integral, the medicine is a total. Today you go to the cardiologist and result to see to

your car, and yeah, who is the daughter, with who is a car, to do you get a

got a that's the car, and so with all the specialities. So, when you

you have to know, that you with any any form that they're in medicine alternative

because not you're the number is impressive. The cifra was important, it was really with the doctor

with Gerardo no, he said, with Gerardo before, and if is true this,

70% if it's detecta and it can't be able to be able to be able to

maybe, we can't be cancer of mama. That's very difficult. It's, we can't

diminish risk, we can detect it terminably. what we're we can't do we're to avoid that

that's a way to that's a problem with a okay, with an intervention adequate.

Desafunately the cancer has much a lot of emotional, no? Cancer equal to cancer equal

to suffering cancer equal to and really, well, but not is so, really

I think when we when we we get this stigma, this car emotional we can't

have a work very, very fertile. Well, we're to give us no you,

so to avoid the fear of the most important. Tomar action and take responsibility

of your health. Today, the Mexican is loo very very in the environment in

that I'm mowow. So, do, what you say, no, to see, what you

going to be to do you going to be to do this, what you're going to be going to what are the

results? What are the complications? What is the future of this? If we're we're going to

we're going for here? Me, it seems that the patient has to participate actively in the time of decisions. How? With information. Information of internet?

No. Information of an phone confiable. And it was, who did peace, who to do that harmony in your life, to him is the time you have to ask. And it has to be the person most indiccated to manage your cancer. I always do,

in my consult, it's, in my conferences, and my people my peer enemy no is the cancer, eh? My peer enemy is your mom, her brother, her prima, her tia, his becina,

because all the whole world has the good thing, and take this, and come to this, and be to be a fulanito

and tal. And in a context, like the Mexican, in where all those those

those are of the love, to who's to do that to do that to do? I want to

to get a money or to my my mom, my and my person, to be a

my prime, that I know, before, before, before, to get to the

Tionita T' the water of Guanabana, that's all all year, so, if at a month, to be a revision,

just definitely. So, regress us, when you're in your period, or, without being a a revision

a maria? A part of what age, I mean, I always I think, what a moment to

know a organo than when it's starting to grow to, we're to our children,

to our women, caridias, that from the moment that's they're to

develop the moment to know to know them to be about the this is a

thing that's a thing of the this is a thing that's a time that's a thing that's we have to

us we're we're not a woman we're a woman but we're saying we're he's chichis

said, pesones no, pesones provisible and the exercise super interesting

in Instagram to keep a person in a in a mom of a woman and change's a

woman and then that's the taboo of a peasant, of a son, of a son, I think brutal what you say,

this is the thing of the desayune, the desalue, the descanso in the cafe in the work, of the

women's and the women's. I do many conferences, unfortunately, and it's impressionant how my

conferences 99.9 of the assistants are women. I'm, and where are the women, where are the children,

where are the brothers, the brothers, the husband, the other the

is the say, oh, you're going to that's the that's the idea that that's a question,

no important, it's a chichi, no, it's brutal, to get to the picture and

to have a picture, or not to have one or have one, or to have a bit

so, all that that's, that is that's where there's The health emotional is maybe

equal or more important than the health physical. How you're to sanar all those

things? And so that of no no, it's not a lot of a period a period

important, honoral, vivela, and superalal. The only equivalent that to me to come to

compare with the the other of the cancer testicular, not. So,

for there is, for there's to be the to say, to be that they're not important,

oh, no, they're they're going to to have to make even more

beautiful. It's the equivalent. It's brutal. Why we're just let us let us

to get to get to better a better than a better. Inconciency absolute. And I think I think

that's a word very clear that's empathy. No, it's not to put you

the lot of the person. You have to come with them because, we're

a society very done a I, I'm in your place I'd

see that I Bevel it, and then then you say, what you're in my place. And to make the questions,

to be the only that's saying, oh, no, not think that yeah, the humility and the curiosity of, hey,

how do you do you know, what's what's doing, we're going to let us, let me,

let me, you're doing your casting of oncologists, I remember the book, that's the last,

Samstron, the cyclist that he got all the time the money, but when

he did cancer testicular, what what I did in the the responsibility of the

infirmat and the doctor, he was, he was investigated, I spoke with a lot of the medical, I remember this much the case,

because the same form, the same co-responsibility with what he was, I always, you always give to my patients, you want a good

medical and the response invariably is yes. Well, I want, a good patient. Miguel, Angel,

no, had been able to sculptor David, if not had had been a good a bit of

marmour. Sure. If you've had taken a piece, Pemus, and let let us

to be those both, from your point of how you can't you know a good oncologist I think he's over

but what you do you ask you a little oncologist because more when I gotrava drugated before the chemo because they'd have an

anti-estaminical then you and you go to check on and then I said things brutal but then in a moment of

these of fury in where you have you're this permission of I'm I can't I can't

I'm I'm I'm sorry that the doctors are making the children to presume

some to others that's fregones are and more preoccupies for the patient. I just

just said, but I'm sorry but I'm but the repent, it's always the patient in a

other to say, well, this case is a lot of years, this cancer, blah, blah, blah.

In other to be doing to put in other words, the cedula professional. Sure. But what,

and what question? Conso is to find a one of this podcast and will go to

this podcast and to to be to be No, there's no, there's a person there's a lot of information,

there's a little information, there's, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I'm I'm going to, I'm going to,

what you need, what you need, what, what you want to what you're doing? Because there people, that's,

I think, I've got a patient, I'm, because she had a mutation like the Angelina Jolie, and the

imminence that had to be cancer of a bilateral was of the 96%, and I said,

that there, exist the possibility to do a mastectomia bilateral. Well, well, she

was a panicada and she was and wasco who was who was unfortunately 15 years after this

cancer and he got it but also I'm going to do you let's do a little because

your cancer is badrissive to do something to do you can't do and that we can't

do you and he he got he got to the one he was irresponsible that he was

doing the gland the mammary a problem. So, a bit, the first is establish a communication.

What you need? What are you? What are you? Where do we don't know. I can't talk to all my patients

equal. No? And there people that a lot to be a old. Exactly.

Exactly. The fact there's a person that like, as well as Angelina Yolin no is

a referent for any, yeah, because has a cancer of mom, all the cancer of of mom are

like that's the correct. So I think so I'm sure that I'm sure that you know that's a person who

you're going to give the tranquillity of what you need to do. But obviously that's a specialist in

this. And that's part of the first of when you when you're when you're a name

and a name and that's specifically. And have patience. The prises in oncology

in oncology in oncology in the urgencies in oncology are your a little

poor consangor. So, take the time to know who is the who's the

care of your health and you're in your I'm not I'm not a lot of

the doctors taking the same the same the same the opuration

and radios to me for example was the well this is the treatment I just

I want to I'm to runcar the car because if you know

you're you're super alter we need and to runcar to make more

closer to the same and so to have certain to have certain because what you

matter is the cancer is the uncertainty what you know is not

know what is when when when we when we put

the people the people the the most they

they really when they they're they they're not

not it's not not not not not not

not so what he did so what it did do

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we're doing we're going to get to get our dreams, but something when we're going to do that something is that

we have to change our habits, we have to get to the famous zone of comfort and

try to something and it's very emotional. But the problem is that in the reality,

when we want to give those first things, the the need that

the us attack. Our mind is where in the un-knownstead is where we're trying to do the ridicule, and we're doing

the syndrome of the ISI, and if me I'm quix, and if I think I'm bad, and if I go bad, and you're all,

you're in the paralysis of the analysis, and there's where the fear and it's a detenerted. For that,

the grand difference between to do your reality or not to do it, is to learn to

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And what you do you know that you all care of and with respect and careno

because a me one of me ever made for example to a St. Jude's Children's Hospital that's in

Memphis, Tennessee, in the United. Curen to a muchimous to do you do things

incredible, marvellousas and things and all my respect. I'm done the tour and when

we get us the plant a place, the food in the St. Jutes Domino's Pizza

the most the most sano was a Starbucks but all over pizza salami

tocinoes, hamones, you're in Memphis, Tennessee. I know that's the culture, I'm a lot of the carnes

processed and cheeses. And I remember that I said a public relationalist that super really a tour and I had impressedionate

with the St. Jutes. And I'm doing, wow. And you're doing eating on the plant a

back, where you're doing very much in any in any in a time your diet about you

you're your sandwichit with pan black, a soft. A fresh. A bit. All.

A bit. in the cell of the center of the centers of chemiotherapy are doing

beverages food food that's food and the patient that's internaid we have

connected a chemio and for other we we're doing to eat to come to get

that so that that's that's that and his family chones

and his cigarette out because that disconniction of that

so well let me tell me I do why I

I took the I did the area of the

plan strategic of cancer of mama in one of the hospitals famous of Mexico. And I was a day with the chef and I said something different. We need to change

and design them a menu and the first ones that were the patients and the families. Well, yeah, because not they're not accustomed to

because it's a lot of education before to be implementing a thing. And nobody has said. And I'd want to retomar

this that did you. The reason for the which I don't have many those effects

secondary. It was for? For the food that it was not not fucaries, no lactos, no products

of origin animal, much fiber, no processed those things are not endvenendating. Because when we were

children, I have 54 years. When I were a little, you know, that a

woman, that was a woman, in my case, was a person, a mom of a man of

a man of the primary, when we were in the primary, the Becina is, the genetic

changed? No. No. No, can be changing in 50 years. What happened? The food

came to. The first generation of children of 20 to 30 years with cancer of colon. 20 years or

25 years before what we diagnosed before what we let us let us in the luncheras.

The baby acidated, the pastelito with sugar, the salinas processed And I do the amorcito,

no, you're just try to make the paletita because that's a sukittar you do you do it's

changed the life, well so we're doing so chichas tocinosin hamones, all processed so it's

so is hereditary the cancer? 90 to 95% of the cancers of the mammac that we're not no component

hereditary wow 90 to 95 90% so so is the is the style of life? It's the style of

the alcohol, tobacco, tobacco, environmental, animals, processed. The my,

for example, no was a genetic. In the study genetic that I did,

I don't have... A gen mutated. It's a style of life. Yeah, because I'm not formal.

And, and also, I'll say a thing, we say a thing, we're on the title, natural,

organical, and automatically accept us that it is. And it's impressive. Because I don't me

had done And now that I'm going to know the empaques, all of sugar added. With synonyms.

Aha. And sodium. What is the other? Sodio. A lot of sodium. Sal, then.

Now, let us also. Canceled. The man. The manse not even with the

same quantity of the same quantity of material. In the adolescence, the hormones feminine,

are making that's the thing and the hormones masculine impid that they're

But this Tejid there's a place for the years of our life.

So, the men also can't give a cancer of mama, clare. And at

a certain there is, there's a tendency in that the people start this area.

There is more risk? There's more risk, there's more risk, the more to get a

exercise, to get a good, to get a exercise of that's the thing that's what you're

what you're asking that's a, an study a studio interesting that says

that the men's over the 40, the cardio, well, if you're but that's the serve, is the force.

They're more quality of life. The men, that's the people are the 40s were that they were doing

to get a production of testosterone in your body. That's that's going to and the mass

muscular and the muscles and the then all of that is prevention. All of this is diminution of factors

of this. So, prevencion me The prevention no exists. Okay. No,

there's a way to get a cancer or a man. I can't allow you. I'm going to do you know,

avoid it. Fumar. That's horrible the time. It's horrible the tabacco. I don't know. The chista

the end of the alcohol. And that's, that's, and all the and all the those, you know, the toxic,

is impressive. Because you know, with the photographs atroces, and so, and so, I'm going to what you

always is, what you want to or you want to you to wait to your

time when you do you know, but you know, there's a thing that's really chistosa that's not that's,

oh, no, well, I don't want to get cancer. All, we're going to answer

that's always, so that's always, and the contrary. The contrary. So,

all we have to eat more sano, no, no, we have to be able to get in excess,

no, I'm to, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, because

no, of cancer. Because all the world thinks the same that the people are the to have a me

to be a man to be able to that's the that's the thing you you're not you're doings you're not

to be a lot my old my old was my my boy was and he's my family no

in my family no you're you're gonna you you're cutate you're that's the that's the

that's the reason for the that's just and so it's and so it's it's it's just it's not

It's easy to start your and say now I talk to me because just one thinks that when

me gave a second years and I'm in that time at the 20-tant years, to me

I'm so you're immortal and he says. Fernando Landerer's president of foundation

Teletone Javan two times that he pegged two times that he two cases

but it's this part of why we think we're we're we're we're

we're a psychologist The thing that we about us about us there are there's there are not

no, no, no, there's nothing approved for the science no, no matter of the other

other side there there's a lot of a lot of people that people and the superaliments and the

curcum and of the cacao and you in where you're for who for who

that's the cause because chia superfood and all the people to chia lique

all the most a lot to you don't don't you don't know So, so, there's

to be what are your deficiencies specific. Ah, well, you need manganese

and you you need a lot of and you need selenio. And the selenio we're in, for example,

the patients that take tamoxypheno for cancer, the curcuma has effect contrary, anti-estrogenicic.

Pardon, estrogenic. So, in Spanish? In Spanish, in Spanish, is the curcuma evita

that the medications that they do do their function. So, to the patients that we're

doing certain medical matters for the cancer, no less a curcuma. That's interesting because then you say, I'm

so I'm so I'm so much, I'm going to do the cormo, and I'm going to do the curcum, and I'm

going to get the cancer. The super smoothie in YouTube, the recipe, and a me no me. For who?

For who? I think the supermen are so many people, but there are to individualize them. The problem

is that we have 122 million of people that have a little oncologist so all the

whole world you know a 122 million in Mexico in Mexico in America no more we're not

in all exactly multiplical the little the little the little uncologo that all

the world and I that I'm to call to call a real when you when you

know how you you're how you how you how you how you do you but you

but you but you in the Institute Mexico Breast Cancer Breast Center there

there Usen the two functions, the things naturists. We're doing a studio padrissom. That's a few pelitos to the nucca and then those

us will be about to your epigenetic. What is the epigenetic? It's what is on the genetic. You made with a group of genes that those can't

modify, nor you, nor anybody. But, above of those genes, there's all what you do you do

activate, desactivar component or decompone those genes. That's the alimentation, how do you're

to doormes to doxical that's exposed, radiation, et cetera, etc. All this is a copter

in a foliculo in the follicle in the follicle. So, so he took a photo of

exactly in where you are in so I can say, ah, well, you need

to do you need to take it and then we do something a supplementation and

nutrition natural. It's a great. And, and more to do you do a study epigenetic no is nothing

car. It's what you want to ask. It's car. No. No, no, it's not the

security. We don't know in the security. The security is a security of health. It's a

good. Nothing is not is made to go. No? So, so as all these

things not are part of a new thing, then you don't you cover.

But, fiftate, what interesting because this of how

to eat how supplement it's incredible that I have to pass for chemotherapy to give me to be in

chemo, it would be better than never because this moment was that I did care of my

food to my food. Correct. What I was that you can't be that you can't

be able to the pint of the no, no, it's not not the security,

no, it's not even doesn't a non a money,

the has many a year a my spouse of the super and me's

saying, I want to get to get this, but it's not very car. He's how much

value? He said, he's not more far to a chemio. I think that is to buy it's a

argument classic. Ah, you put a every rata in the radio, and you

put you, because it's vegan and it's a way, so it's vegan than than a

keymium. Repitel to get it to get to a alimenting a little

a living a more it's more a more a lot more than a correct, oh no,

cause frioles lentejas. Yeah, a tortilla, a tortilla, all right, a diet of the

mealpa, the diet of the Pueblit is more another thing. Another other thing we're

we're we're trying that we're not you don't you know, what are

those those are those are the things you're not the not you know,

no a lot a tortie you say, oh, I'm see, a

all we know, we know that we know that we know that we can't be saddened all we know we don't let us to get a gruas

the real need a expert that you say but also not to us not all the most no the same

so so so that's I always I'm absolutely I'm always I'm going to know why because the mole

is good because the mole is and as well and as you have to me me can't the mollie I'm going to

say oh you is that me I'm sorry I guess. Oh, well, but is that the mole is

marvellous so you what you have to do you and start to think that the mole is the whole whole

so we're going to do you. No. That clarity. Fiatty, to me, the time of the processos

so I'm asked, to be, you know, what you care well, I'm

the same pastada I, I've perished in the last three months,

I've done 10 kilos above. You're thank you. Thank you. I was, I was I was a month

in Mexico and I was going to be back, to be back, back, back, back. I got the avion me go to Los Angeles and I'm going to eat my

food food food and those those that are very good, this substitute of the carne vegan, all the processed

and then I'm to get to what I did, what I did, what I did, what I'm from Mexico to the United

and I'm because the United is the the reed of the processed even even even, even,

I'm, I'm, I'm I'm going to imagine me that I'm in Mexico and that

not exist in those products and I'm and I'm going to get into natural and I'm going to back again

and I'm and I'm so I'm incredibly and we're going to do you're a processado

a processado is any whatever anything in plastic in latin in paper in what you

want you whatever whatever something that that can that has that has for the

one five ingredients and that one you can not that's very

one doctor One. One. No. Oh, let's let us let's go. Okay.

What is the mastography? Because it's necessary to do when it to do one of to do? Basically, today is

an study that is an study that cancer before that's before that's if it's it's just

it's not things littleititititit that just that just that can't be able. The good

those good good places in the world that's always make an evaluation from two

points of a single study, mastography ultrasound music, tomography, mammography,

mammaria not you need two. The more specific for detecter cancer is the mastography

that has a sensibility of 95% this signific that of every

every 100 patient that has a diagnostic to 95. Agwas

the good mastographies. The good. The good. What is a good? Disafortunately, Mark, the cars,

the costosas. But a good mastography not you super to the $3,600 pesos. So, like 150 dollars,

170 dollars. Here in Mexico. I mean, for those that those that are for those that are those for those.

It's correct. There are there. No, you know, it's, it's a good, not you

don't gettes one of 200 pesos. See? Ahorra 200 dollars during a whole

a year to do it. That's a very good good study. No, it's a not a

look at a look at a look at a problem that we can't it's the this is that you this is that

this is that this is that you know I'm a because it's a mal mastography of what it

depends of the technology that you the equipment preventive of the

the maintenance corrective of the technical that per the equipment and of the medical

the study the the last I used a example very similar to you did you

when I was talking about and I said oh, is that I'm that's un-sagradable the

mastographies and I occupy the same example but in a way of and I'm

a good a chateate a chipper so it so it not it that's a very

in a chichie like in a very much more disagraphable but am there more there

technologies emergent we have a current of because they say they they're they're

Oh, carrie? Yes, and every we're more people we're that's, that's, I'm going to

make a mastography because for the radiation me will have done cancer. Nobody, nobody's

nobody's a little feet of to do you the majority of the world of

the publicions, the radiation that comes on the windows, most

the people of telecommunication, more the cellulares and computers, the

people, you get exactly the same the same the same the same, the

mastography. It's that's a lot to London's. You like that's nine hours? It's just in Mexico,

Tijuana. In Mexico, three hours. Three hours. You've received the radisson of a mastography. Sin fines

of health. Sin fines of health. So I'm that I'm going like four mastographies a week.

I'm not right. Correct. No, no. But never I've never seen a patient that

for a mastography he led to no. So this is a but if you're in that

but you there technologies emergent. It's that the theories of the conspiracy and the groups WhatsAppers are but well. And the tias

of Piolines. Yes, the tias Piolin of Facebook, exactly. So, if you have

demastography, if not you have a motion with the astrocy, has to a soundoid, this is a

retronia, make a lot of act you. I'm sorry, I don't I want to do a mastography.

It's a, it's a for For fines of investigation, a ultrasonial? No. The ultrasonido

no suple the mastography. The ultasoneer us does information different although many cancers can't be diagnostic for ultasone

but always two studies. No, always to make two. Two mastographies or two, two,

two studies different. Like the the resonance magnetic, the mastogical like the tomography mammography. Now, and if no

there's no cover, and if we do it, so we make coperacha for the kinsiaia for the

Salvation. Be to the medical, explore it, espirate, and you guard 200 pesos every month.

200 pesos per cent per cent. You'll do you like, I want to be a mastography. Help me.

Help me. I'll be. I'm going to me. You're going to get a very much a boch

than a Mercedes. Yes, the technology. The technology is another. If you put us to

go to a coach and Mercedes, yeah. Oh, one once that you get to

the cancer, what is the recommendations? Number one, patience and calm. Tomeat that you need is

to know, who's going to do you know what's informate and participate. Every case. Every case

is particular. Every case is different. What is a woman, no, it's different. Then,

define what is what you need to, what you want to be to do you want. An applause

for the doctor Gerardo Caserna. For a job. In where you can find your

clinic? I'm going to go to get to the exam I'm we're we.

We're we. We're as aroba Breast Center MX. It's scribe Breast Center MX. And we're in the city of Mexico very close to the Fwente Petroleum, very centric.

But, but, again, before the pandemic, we did we doorkencers, but the pandemic came to fortalec the fact that you don't need to be in Mexico,

nor the territory national to have a second opinion. What we need to information. We can't assessor, guide, direct, orientar, asia,

what is what you need to because many times the patient no entient, so if you make you know, we try that's

information, we can't make a little you don't you talk to us, we can't even

to get to and get to what you have to ask. There's a lot of people. A. Padult. Oh,

God. So, so that is where you can't find to put them on the social

here in the website. In Facebook, in Instagram, in TikTok, and YouTube. Are you TikTokero?

A little, do you know? No, a little. No, a potho no, no. Nobody's no, no. No,

we want to be able to. No, we'll put them the press and in the other questions of the episode, there's put them.

And my great Veronica, obviously, to you know we're a person public, you know, you know,

well, I've, I'm, my life, that is in YouTube, I'm my channel,

per-a, oh, okay. There's all the Lonez, I have a love life, which is the month at the 8.5. And then, I think this, this, this,

this is this, this, place where we can't play and, I'm reading and we end up contorreing, all the lunas of October, all the money that enters to that chat, go direct to donation, also, for, for, diagnostics and

treatments. And, this, well, and that has, it, it's, it's, eight and the morning? 8.m.m. the night. The night. Uh, yeah. Uh, this, I'm a podcast, too, that's called Brabass.

But, well, what I mean me really is to be in contact with the people. So, see them in my Instagram and in my

media and then there's going to be not going to be not quite. I'm going to be all the media and in other people.

For those that's the other people. And not the time. And not it's a pleasure to be here.

And, and it's very important that I'm very much, tantas hours of the time you're

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