El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 242 - Estrés, el daño que hace a tu cerebro y cuerpo - Dr. Alexander Krouham

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

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Hotel Gamma in Santa Fe, City of Mexico, presenta. Mexico is the country most stressed of the planet Earth.

We're very accustomed to Marko to think that stress is nothing more dependent of something

that's in our environment. And that's stress can get to Alzheimer, stress

can get me to get me to get to a area of comfort. I don't want to

assume that you do you do you have to to be able to have in the mornings and have retos. I don't know I can't, I can't pretend

that I'm controlling my stress if not come I'm if I do, I'm well, if I don't have good relations interpersonal, if no, I'm

my body. How times we can't in the error of that we're going, we're going to do all for all the world,

and there is where more and more stress is generated. For millions and years, the stress has helped

the people have done the human to survive, is what it was to get to

a leon or to save our life. But the problem of the stress is that today not we

don't know we've only we're we're going to we've got to the time in the time with the

family, with the people, and that stress literally not being in Mexico, in America,

Latin, in States, in the United, in Japan, when the people do the person of the stress.

In the episode of today, the doctor, Alexander Krucham, How it's present, how it affects to your Cerebr and to your body, and the most important, how to manage it, for that you can't have a better quality of life. Episode 242, we'll,

we'll, comeons. The podcast of Mark, Antonio Regil, is a production of RGEL Entertainment, and all those whose rights are reserved. Since last of 20 years, the Dr. Alexander Kruham has helped to help us health.

It's a medical specialized in medicine internal, with a specialization in endocrinology in the States United, being one of the first doctors accredited in medicine functional and medicine of style of life. The Dr. Krueham consider it as a mission create health in the people

a through the development of a culture of well-star. He's author of the book Medicine Functional, The Revolution in the Treatment Medical. The Dr. Alexander Krueham is in the podcast. Welcome to podcast. Welcome to public in vivo. Here are puras students of our courses in line. Dr. Kruchamp is in the podcast.

Yes. You're a super-striya of the podcast and of the medicine obviously, Doctor, thanks for regressar No,

at the contrary, thanks to you, Mark. I'm so, I'm stressed when going to go to go? No, no,

no, do you. Oh, the stress is a disease? What is the stress? The stress,

no is a problem. The stress is a mechanism of superviency of the organism. Uh-huh.

But the problem is that we're that we're going to do the time, and that's

what you not is normal. But... Because the principle not was the stress us

would be able to you know, let me talk about a pair of things because it's very interesting. So, first,

that's the first thing, there's three types of stress. Okay. Do you? We have a stress

agued? What is a stress agude? Think, for example, that you go,

you're going to your car and it and it and you're that's obviously, you're going

to exaltar, your car, your car is a accelerate, you're to

you're to to tumble. That is a response that in your organism is a characterized

for the production of adrenaline and nor adrenalineina and more or less in the

course of 30 minutes to do so that's that you and you did it and I'm

served because could have been the ardued what it was what I'm what I'm but you tell you

this this response of okay now now we we're on the

stress chronic the stress chronic is that Well, it's

a characterizes for situations of very long-plast for example, we're going to think that's preoccupied for

a question family, a situation economic, political, what you want, but we're a very

problem. The human is the only species that has a stress for anticipation.

No other other species it can't. What does this? We're really a thing that

has been and probably never will be a to happen. And we're preoccupied for what can get to pass in a

month, in a year. It's like that I'm worried for the elections of the 2024. And so, me has stressed. And, well, this is marmando to my organism, me going to generate a problem in the

long-plast. Yeah, I'll say the syndrome of the ISI. And if me I'm wrong, and if I'm bad, and if no I'm don't have money, and if nobody me can't when it's a bigot, easy, easy, easy.

But is this stress. It's the stress of anticipation. So when the stress is a a goal of adrenaline to reactioning and to save me or someone else, there is

a lot of the stress. Yes, is part of a mechanism of the organism and that has to be with what the system

nervous autonomo. Okay. The system nervous autonomes that the control the

functions that we we can't we can governar. For example, I don't do,

for more that me consent, I can't make that my heart more rapidly or more less less

less so I'm not a sudden, or not I'm not sure my stomach so that my system

nervous autonomo, has two parts, a part that stimuler, that is the system

nervos sympathetic, and a part that relaxa that is the system nervous parasimpatio.

If it you see from a point of of stress, the system nervos or autonomo is the sympathetic, is the that has this response

characteristic of, ante an aggressor or a perception of something that is to do something with to use or to do you or luchar. That is the system

nervoso, sympathetic that finally generate stress. So that's... That is the problem. The problem is living in stress. But we do

do we do do all the time? For the work, for the political, here I have some statistics.

He's, he's, he's factor number one of stress is the insecurity. And that Mexico,

the OMS, the Organization World of the Health, in 2017, he said, he said, he's the

country, is the country, so, we can't we're that's there's

there up, and I think our America Latina that are not to get to

the people, we're, we, what What is it, we're stressed so,

we're going to China, the United and economies grandisimates of the planet? And it's curious,

no, but at the same time is a time, it's a time, we're we're doing, thanks a

God, we're not because if no, living what we've been, with the stress that we're

if we're just we're just we're not we're not we're all right for that we're just just exactly

the escapeatory not, the sense of the humor. And for we're just we're just a day

of mortals like the we have like the world. It's beautiful. Where we canals

our emotions and you're there's a mysticism. In the United see the statistics. The third

part of the population live in stress. Stress extreme, according the Association American

of psychology. Durrissim. The stress says in the United still in the amount affecting

every aspect of the life, travel, relations and the 77% of the

Americanes report to have experimented symptoms physical and psychological of

stress. 77% So that is common. It's most common. It's the most common of the world. Karoshi, the word Japanese, what means Karoshi?

Parabra Japanese to designar the idea of murder for excess of work. It's so common in Japan to die for excess of

work, that have a termino and in Japan to work work on different hours a week is a

normal and honorable. 10,000 people all year are for Karoshi in Japan.

and this is extended in the world, Doctor. That rare, no? So, what, what's tricky. But,

no, we know we not we don't know. We don't know we've got been quite we've been quite

so we're this episode of the podcast. But is that, is that we're much we're always

we're to think that stress is nothing more dependent of something in our

life in the environment. And that's not certain. The stress has many

cars, many, many, cars. You've showed I this. Just to

just for you think you know, all those are these are in stress? All these are cars?

Some cars? So, are you, the, the calificative that you want to you want to

each one of them, and we have stress, even for situations biologics.

What do this? It can be that I feel phenomenal, no, no,

there's a nothing in my life, no, no, no, there's any, no, there's any, no any circumstances that me preoccupies, and, in however, if there's

something that not a lot of not really, it's automatically, that's generating a stress, and I'm not conscious of it. So, and what

does, let's, let's be, we're, we're going to talk of the solutions and how to avoid it, and how to manage it, but we're going to take conscience,

because one of the great problems is not to understand the damage so great that can make a the brain that can't do my brain and a my

body, the stress, the living stress. A very,

I'm a moment of the stress agued, and I talk about the

production of the adrenaline and not adrenaline okay. We're to talk

of the stress chronic and there is a hormone that is the

responsible of this stress, that is the cortisol. Now, when I have that

stress agued, I'm to produce the adrenaline and I'm

I'm I'm to disminue and disappear. But the cortisol

is a hormone that you and I and all we do and all we're all the days.

And there's a cycle normal of production of this cortisol. Normally the production

more is in the morning. Because to start is a crisis. Because

you're a crisis. Someone that's somebody. Someone that's you're going to get to

the day and you have to try and to make a series of mechanisms of

protection. But But conform it's passing the day you have to go back into your levels of cortisol,

in the time you have to have a level more low, and in the night you have to have the

level more, say, we're not, because if not is so you, your mind no can't

and you can't enter to the time to the time. And then we're

we're doing to get us to turn to situations that are being in the mind and

obviously we're not we're we're Now, that cortisol is produced with a rhythm, with a certain, in a certain proportion,

but when there is an excess, that's a very important in many areas, particularly of the Cerebroseph, so there are different zones of the Cerebrose, that have receptors for this cortisol. The area that more receptors have is a, a zone in the part that's

back of the brain that's a hippocampo. And the hippocamp

is where integramos the memory. So, one of the main of the things

that will be going to be when we're going to the capacity of memory and this is

a factor of risk for problems like Alzheimer and other type of situations. That

explains much the epidemic that's there's also in the world.

And other other things. The Alzheimer not does

the This is one of the principales. So, a life super-stressada. But, figgate how what is the

organism? A-er, you know, you know, you know, this excess of cortisol, that's dawee

doing your hippocampo and you are affecting the production of memory. So, what does your

organism? He says, no, no, we're going to put a control in this sense. So,

then it's a production of cortisol. What's what's the situation? It's, it's equal to

your system immune, and in that moment, we're more sensible, and you can't

develop to start to start to develop a cancer, that you can't get to get to cancer.

So, one thing, you get to to get to Alzheimer, stress can't get me to cancer,

stress can get to a system immunological and of that's easy that's easy that's

any of the any of some thing. Let's put to be a little when I you say

when I think you What do you think? In the food that I chee to the stomach and it's

digriending. And if I think my system cardiovascular, in what you my my heart

well, and if I think you do you know immunocry immunological, in what you think?

Something in the Cerever that I think it's here up, it's here right, it's

here up. Well, a be, think it in this manner. So, finally

there are many there many there many there much systems of control

in the organization, okay, this Ege neuroendocrino immunological Significs, that our Cerebrough is

connected with the production of hormones and that's a sub-of-s is connected with a system of defense. So, in Cerebrose, all these

functions, okay? Not only just memory, but how we're perceivable the world, how we're connect us with the world.

Endocrino means hormones, and this means hormones of stress, adrenaline, noradrenalina, cortisol, but also, they're going to influenceer, for example, hormones thyroidias, hormones sexual,

and other, and system immune. Now, this is a relation bidirectional. It's in one sense, but also in the other. Thinksalo in a way very simple. When you're under stress, what time you tardas after this? No, it's succeeded to you with the COVID,

decared with a infection? Why? Because your system of defense you're just protected. You're always vulnerable in that moment.

But at the reverse, how you see when you're a infection? You're going to say,

you know, you know, you're going to say, the better of the more and you're not, you

feel deprimed, you're chasturrado. That's that relation between all this system

neuroendocrine immunology. So it's car or to live with stress? Very car.

Very car. is a situation that we have to learn to to identify and we have to canalize for that

in the schools around in Mexico there's a a lot of the only can't be making them to make a

to meditate to restate to breathe to make sure I mean I know me I imagine that I think to you too

in some of you guys they're teaching to manage the stress is something that should be part

of the system educational Oh, Mark, oh, forgett of the schools,

let me talk about it what is the formation of a residentia medical, what I

did I see, I'm to be a year, my poor seminar,

de that was when I was a second year, in medicine internal

in the stoy in the hospital of veterans in Miami in

Florida. The Lune in the morning that I went at the

7 of the morning, for the Friday in the night, that were like at 9 of the night, in total, the Lune's to the yearn, I've been I'd have been in five hours. Wow. What? What

that's what? That's what I've asked, why educum to the doctors that are, in theory, are who are who are people who are with systems that are not soundable? Like that? No,

to let's doorm. What? What you're? What? What? What? What? What? That's a You know, you can't. Yeah, for the law, you can't. That's good. That's the way.

That's the way. In the States in the United, of the United, right? Still are you doing many 24 hours. Oh, and that would have been a

day short in that in the career of medicine. The quantity of stress that you live is... But not just the medical, eh? A bit, all the world is

under stress. That is the reality. No, I know, my career, coming to radio and television, we're doing, to do-mings, days of

Fiesta, hours and hours and hours, a lot of every time, the people that work in the policeia,

the people who are, the people, the public, in this city, not is stress. Super-stressant. And mentioned, in your

statistics, Mexico is a place of a great stress. One of the problems fundamental is the stress

laboral. That's, that's, it's like before you before the time, like the city of

Mexico, or Bogotah, or Buenos Aires. to New York, or Los Angeles, the people, just to get to get to the

work, right we're going to get to work, you're in vehicle, or in a carmion or in metro or in what you get a super-stressada

because it's a luch. I remember in Tijuana when I was I was in the school, I had to do that people to get to

to get to the carmion and could get a time to get a time and all- everybody was to get-of- and all-n-

and all-a- and you're in the stress and the people and the before you're you're just you're being

you're getting you're getting But you get to the school, you're to sit on your

pupitre and it was a capacity to get a capacity of and the assimilation

perfected for that to do all what what was to be to enter to come

to be to get to come. Wow. And there there are people that

time to get to work and one or two hours or two hours or two hours

of day or two per the same to be a day and then more. And then you get to the

job and the job is a quantity of pressure. Because, there's a culture. So, neither in the school, there's a culture of a culture of manage the stress, and in the work, there's a culture to manage the stress. But mentioned, for example, Japan. Japan

is, you have some programs within the businesses, where the people see medita, if you take some minutes, each hour, for to do exercise, and there's a question

cultural, but the philosophies oriental, you know, the Quk, you have the Tai Chi are the techniques a time through those which are

you reconnected with you and you're a realactation Yeah, yeah, the meditation, the famous

mindfulness that is that is that simply to come to get to be to be a conscience of what you

is to be to be here. And notar my respiration and not to my body and

not to what is my around. It's very very very simple and that that is

that is very simple but we're we're enrolled in a process where it's

very difficult disconnecting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just the statistic is to clarify

it says, according a study done the university of the University of the Valley of Mexico, so three of

four Mexicans, suffer of stress at least one a day of a month in situations and the

situations most stressant are the insecurity, 73% of the Mexican is are preoccupied

for the insecurity. And the situation economic, and the the country, 65% of the Mexicans.

And me imagine, you know you're seeing in Ecuador, in Colombia, in Argentina, well, the United, the

thing, the thing is a thing that's very, quite, that the thing is a problem,

that's a problem, we have done we've done, with the family, because they're to do it,

or not they want to or they're part, or they're not, then you start a, a,

a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, the family or the

friends, it's a bit to become in a debate political, economic and in

amistavies. Because it has polarized the society. But in all the things, not just in the

thing about, in the thing about, it would be to talk about to talk, a dialogue, to expose

points of to know, that is what you think, a, that you know, you know,

you know, you know, you have the truth, I have the way, you, that there an element

of, say, so as like there's when the in the life, the same,

so we need to we need to the hygiene of the communication with our family and my and my I'm a

mom, my, my, friends, I don't come to talk to a debate

political here. We're, we're going to talk about things bonitas, let me to do you

do what you do you do something, we're we're going to put a discipline in not

convertive our reunions in places in places it's correct we're going to do it so that's a

solution a part of yeah a part of yeah of immediate what do you what we're

what we we're about the we're about the stress that's some of the

some of the some of some other what other other other other other of

the the other other of those organes margo that has

been that every we start to know more and have a relation very important in this sense is the

system digestive, the microbiote intestinal. So, the theme of permeability of the intestino

also is another element that is influenced by stress. Normally, the intestine is a filter,

but it's a filter that makes that enter to the organism to that your body

is you need, and what you need, you do you do you

Right? Ante situations of stress, augmenta that permeability. And then, it's not your organism that enter in things that

normally not should be able to get. Like, like, like, like,

bacteria, fragments bacterianos, or products toxic of the flora intestinal. And in the

moment that these things enter, then automatically it's a cause, there's a response of

your system immune, your system inune, attack those elements, produce anticuropos

that you're to generate what you, what you me say, arthritis, rhinitis, sinusitis,

asthma, problems of thyroid, problems neurological, et cetera. And all this is for the mechanism of

stress at level intestinal. And all this, other this, and the problem physical and

horrible and that's car to be productivity. Ah, but, but, but,

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Another statistic the organization World of the health says that the

excess of work and the stress laboral provok more

of seven four four months in the planet

for accident cerebral and cardi cardiopath ischemic that

is that is the mortes can occur even decades

after after after after the stress. That is another thing,

but well, what is saying there is infartes cardiacos and the people know

commonly as a drummed there they're from the stress also.

Okay. But, to be this time of stress we're we

think we in it simply for a vivency in immediate. Uh,

do they did for to demonstrate that the stress transcends generations were in

New York in the hospital Mount Sinai in the survivors of the

World War World people who was in the campos of concentration. Wow.

Fidate the interesting of this. Evaluated to people that were in

camps of concentration obviously women that were not were in

that moment. I So, no could you not have an embassau in those conditions in

a camp of concentration. This group of investigators what he did is, he did you, he did you,

a gen in particular, in a area that the region in the chromosomes, where is

the cortisol. So, we know that is that area where is that is a

place to all this information of the herence that regular

the response to this stress chronic. De So, I'm

giving a gene in particular, it's not just in the person, but in

his children, and it's and it's and it's there's there. There's mutations.

There's not. There's on the third generation and provienen of the stress that before the

end of the abel. So it's hereditorio. Tracient generations. The stress that

I was still experimenting I'm not said my mom yeah my mom my mom a manned a marid a marital

that abunded those women in our America Latina all those the kids of alcoholics or people

who have people who imagine the stress that have been we've been we've got we're trying we're we're

we're not we're that we're that I'm a predeterminism there's a mutation those make more

susceptible to the stress but if we we have conciences of it, well, we're going to

put a remedy and we'll do you, we're going to avoid that that's not. We've got to do a way

different. But we've got we're in our body of our organism. Yes, but we have to put more attention.

Totally. So, because here, when you say that, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm very very responsible and

that's not, for that I'm trying to stress me. Thanks, to the universe, I've discovered the meditation and

the yoga and other things that may help in the exercise. But, consciousness of wow, the stress that my mom or that lived my mom

or that lived my dad also he has also he has to put more attention in my life to this. Sure. So, at the final of the day,

and not only so, and you, what do you want to give to you know, the how you will have a repercussion in what going to pass

with your kids and what will pass with your kids too? So, so as if there programs, how is the norma,

the 035, the, that that, that that that's, that's a applause, of the

other, of the things positive of the government federal Mexican, the have put this

norm that, for those that we're in other other people, he'd to do the money to

do the money to do that the amount of stress. That's that's a great

a super applause. And also there'd to put our norma 035, let's be

a family. Yes. I mean, we're we're saying, hey, family, we understand how

we're not we're doing in family activities that we help them to to the grits,

to drama, to chism, to the malentendid, all being rummating things of the of the last, I was too. My mom,

my mom had an woman, yeah, too, I'm a man, and so they'd be able to, and so, I said,

mamita, but, why don't they get them to do you, the Tia-Mosal, we're saying, no,

my jit, is that when we're, in the, in the, in the secondaria, and me told,

he said, I'm, the, mom, the secondaria, you, you're, you,

That's how is possible that we're going to we're going to 30 years and that for so we're not we're not we're going to

we're still because that corajito, that of me not me I'm not quite a me made, a me

made me I present to the reunion family and I'm a talk about that's a problem.

That's a one of course I'm talking someone, well, no, it said that the pantions

were full of disculps that never they were they've been, the symphonies that never said,

think it in that's the things we're that we're that if they have done we're done, if they'd

them, we'd live much more desprended, much more relaxed, and really, with a much

more capacity of goos. And nobody, I, I, no, I don't know, I,

why, I, why, I, how, like, how, like,

how, I'd, like, All the world does the same. How no I'm

like I'm about, how no I'm relaxed, how no I'm relagued, how no I'm more

more time with the people, how no I'm going to lily the flowers more, like,

any, any other anything, but nobody says, let me go to

get a little but for what you said, I've said, I've

a, a, one thing a one, you know, the what is the

definition of infierno? What is the definition of In the

Inferno, doctor. The last day of your life, being who is, in front of who you're

to be in the time. Let me, let me, let's get it been in the last the last

day of your life, so, being who is, encounter or confront or confront

or you with who would be, he would, the, the, the, the,

the, you'd have taken decisions distinct, that you could have done

more felicity, and that depend on to you those decisions. Like, solter, soldar,

pardoner, to get, to come to say, oh, yeah? Look, the estes is a process

of adaptation, is a process of supervvency if it's a process biological, physiologic, that has

all these arista, if you want to see from the point of view medical. But at

final of the day, is responsible of that we've of that we live, of that we've got to gocemos, or no gocemos.

But, Mark, we're talking of what the people can do in a moment that's not to try to do you?

What do you do you think if you're to identify if you have an stress or no? How identify the stress? The doctor

us brought a question. And we're to the people don't have no, they're not having them,

they can't know it and if you do it in their and the person and the people

they're doing the podcast it can do I'm going to do make my encuester to be

to do you know, to do you know, to do diagnostics with this document, in what level and how do stress?

This is called an question of stress perceived. Fisance. Fiscied in this,

because we're talking about of perception. So, not necessarily it has been to be a situation

real. So, no I have to have to be fronting a lion that

me being perciating or so if I perciv stress, for what You want.

That's what you want. That's the sueger. The leona or the gyrno. Today, the chief. The chief.

The chief. Exactly. The chief. Totally. But, well, it's, it's,

it's, all that you move your structures and you put in a situation of inquietude where you

don't you're not you're what you're what's what's what's is

stress. Okay. So, let's let's see the question. This

This encester is used it's used to it's and we need the question

and it's describe your things and sentiments during the last year to the next scale

zero means never one is almost never two

is in some occasions three is frequent and four is very frequent

a very zero never one one almost one Two, in

some occasions. Three, is frequent, and four is very frequent. Okay. So, are you? So, are you? Are you? The number one.

With what frequency has been affected for something that has occurred inoperately? Is it? The last days? The last month?

At the last time? With what what has been affected for something for something that has been

unesperately? Okay. The number two, with what frequency you have been able to control

the things important to the number three, with what frequency you have

felt you have seen nervous or stress the number four, with what frequency

has been sure on your capacity to manage your problems personal

that's that's in positive with some some some some

some positive. Okay. Okay. So the the four, with

what frequency you have felt secure about your capacity about your

problems personal okay okay okay the five with

what frequency has said that the things that you

want to okay the six with what you have you

don't you could you don't you have all the

things you see seven with what you have

you have difficulties of your life. Eight, with what frequency has

been you have been you know, you know, with what frequency has been been inojou

for things that were out of your control. And the 10, with what frequency

has seen that the difficulties are so much that you can't superas.

Okay. Okay. Now, how is how it three, six,

nine, and ten, they're directly the scale. One, two, three,

six, nine, and ten. So, they're like, there's you put it to zero

to four, you put some numbers. Uh-huh. Now, now the questions, four,

five, seven, and eight, so they're they're not different. If you put it

zero, it's going to say that you're going to a number four. So it's at the reverse. So the 0 is the 4. The 0 is the 4.

The 1 is the 3. 2 still 2. The 3 is the 1 and the 4 is equivalent to 0. It's all the reverse. Sure.

One are positive or other are negative. So we're going to let us do. We'll have we we just put it. We'll have all because we're going to

start doing stress of the exam. Oh, no, I don't I'm thinking, I'm doing, I'm going to do, I'm just me, I'm

thinking, how I'm callify, oh, no. So, more we'd degeable this,

but you do the numbers for that for that for that that's a kind of that's

a qualification total sumas to zero to six, it's not normal. Normal.

The the promed general is 13. Uh-huh. If you If you have 17 to 24, it means that you have a stress moderated.

And 25 to 40 is elevated and for the above of 34 is it's very important. Okay, up 40, very important. Arriva of 34, very important.

25, 40, elevated. Yes. But 34 to be 34 for up. Yeah, very important. Well,

it's not, not it's good, the examin? Who is going to do? Who is doing? Who is it? Perfect.

Who is it? Yeah. Who is stressed? No. That's not. But, to be, are you

stressed for the results or or they're for doing? For results? For the

two. For the two. Asia, ojo of good Kuboero, how many

in the public were in the public, they're not, okay. Who are

they're doing? Are you? Are you? Moderated to the middle of the way. Moderated

and too? No, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, we don't no no we're Present.

Present. Fiat, my master of yoga, Dharma, when I did my certification for a master

of yoga in New York, we're doing class, his salon, is in the middle of New York,

the third door, with the frontas with all the traffic and the road and the carolone

of New York there. And he said, it's very easy to to LUM or to

a, to be a time, and not have stress and and not any anxiety and be

a man, and be the life, The yoga and the meditation you need to help for that you, in the middle of the jungle,

in the car, in the metro, giving us codazos to compete for the life, there, if you can't get your practice to a place,

where in the jungle, you can't feel a lot of you there's a disaster, there's a gradation. That's interesting. Right?

Yeah. Yeah, because it's very easy. We're going to get a return, and in the retiro you're sitting, you're,

you know, the Spirit Santo, descendio, and you Yeah, Herman, you love

and all you know, and just you're going, you know, you're going, you're going, you're going,

you're going to you're trying to get to try this. Sure. No, you get to a questioner, in what sect

and you're that you're in the retire? No, and you, ah! The family has like the

buttons, like the control remote that know, that's pickartte, you know,

you know, yeah? Well, yeah. Well, yeah. But, but there

we're here we're doing. It's the job and the family. So we need to develop our master's that we'll give to reduce the level of stress in those two places, that's where most we're most. The message is that we're the capacity,

but we need to start for the conscience. And for that I go so I'm so much emphasis in that this is a disease. The people think today that is a baddisciment.

It's a certain. It's a situation that we've permitted that out of control. I mean, I'm not I'm not going the existence of all these

agresors under the which we've used and that perception that that's affect. But if we have the

things, if we're we can't we're doing those things, we can't and this

is very variable, Marko. I mean, think it's a termino's very very simple.

Funcionable like we're a oya express. We're accumuland tension and every

more and more tension. And we is just waiting to when it's when it's

what we have to do this we're in our valve of the valve

of escape. The my valvula of the exercise. You medit there. There's

there who listen music the Tai Chi the Tai Chi the Quk a good conversation

with the kuchi Cooci no no no so

depending no no mark a palmadita in the part a caris

do if you do you do you For a drama, if you're in the present and if you're not you're not being concerned for obtain a certain result, because if that's also, you know, you can't be doing yoga and Tai Chi and be stressed because

you're trying to do it. So, that's where you have to have much careful with the mind. Totally. No, it's not, you pass, that's doing exercise, or I, I'm, you, I'm, you're, you're, you're going to, and you're going to, and, you're going to, and, you're

You know, you're You're going, you're doing, but you disconnected, you're going to you're not, you're going,

and you're saying, ah, caray, oh, the trajectory, and I'm there's a yeah, you

connected, you connected with you're connected, to the patients, then absolutely, so take a valveula of

escape. Muchs. Much. Much of the as much. And as much, and definitely move,

and do you say, the doctor Mauricio Gonzalez, it's a necessity, not a lugo, it's a necessity.

So, move, to sudar, because there's something that when you do when you make, so it's a other reality

in your mind and in your body. This is a medicine of style of life. And we've talked about it Marko,

is what you, what you propones all the time. So, there are six elements. Nutrition and

hydration, exercise, and movement, no you have to go to do that, with you, with you,

put, with, Punta. Caliade of Sueue, control of stress, relations interpersonals, and control or evita abuse of substances. Tabacco, drugs, alcohol, etc.

That's his style of life. And that is what that is what we need that first change of paradigm. We're very accustomed to treat a disease, not to create health. All the systems

medical are designed to treat a problem. No. What we want to make sure the version of us ourselves Now the

medical that do you of medicine of the style of obviously take into account all because this is a speciality

it's like like with the no see the doctor of the doctor of the stomach not a part of my

body of my body is integral no not it's a speciality? No is a speciality still

and unfortunately how how how works the medicine today fragment the organism so you

have to let's say a, let's say a, the gastroenterologist the gastroenterologist the neomologist the neomologist

the neurolog or the neurolog or what you want you finally they're content in their area of

know but not they present attention to what the rest of the organism

and that's an absurd because no no function We're working for systems. Functioning us,

we're a whole, where all is obviously perfectly vinculed. And the medicine integral,

the medicine of the style of life. Now, the symptoms, there are symptoms that I can identify

are those that in that in that in that question, so you think, first, that's,

first, that's, there, where you have this production of adrenaline and noradrenaline, if you

you're going to have for supposed, tachycardia, sudoration, anxiety, nervosism,

trastornos of the suing. Surelyly you're going there's some things. When you

think in cortisol, there's a enormous variety of things. So, let me

say, to get to even to get to simply essentially, two three parts

of the people that are under a stress chronic and they have a

more production of cortisol accumulate, accumulate more a level abdominal. Why? A augment the

appetite, and other things, and for mechanisms physiological if it's deposit more gas in cellulas abdominal.

That's for so that the people that is doing diet and diet and so stress and and it's and it's

and it's and it's not a better of that's more more more complex than that's

one of the factors. But you can you can't you can't you can't you have more

because I'm I'm sorry every that I've done the exercise has to have been

with my levels of glucose are going to go to grow up to develop diabetes. Yeah, I said I was

to have problems of thyroid, you can't have problems cardiovascular, you're going to have a heartburns of the

sleep. It's a great variety of things in those who can be affected in our organism. You can't

do you know, the basketballist of the Lakers of the Angeles that then after they

went to Miami Hits and when was in the Miami Hitt had many had many problems

of stress just recently and she was lesionado, and lesionado and and leonisone. And when he

went to the Phoenix Sons. And when he went to do to do you know to doger and meditation.

And he has to talk to hear the interview where it's a time after the time after the time.

And then it was going to get to get to the yoga and meditation. I go, I was

he was a little biterano. He was didn't do you did you last year the whole he was very well.

He was a level, not your level of the game of the Lakers because yeah was a

other but his level to be able to be able to play. And it was meditation and yoga is to try,

meditation, yoga and it was to do you know, to the other people, we know, not is that not that's the

only cause, but one is super propensos to the lesions and others never are and they're in the same

partidos. And, well, we'd say, oh, but also, but also, but also,

what is what is what you do you do? What is, what is, what conscience you have

of your body. Now, if I don't any of those symptoms, it means that I'm

don't have a very good question I'm a question, I think we're we're doing, that's

good, that that stress is the that's the that's the way, I don't want to

live in an area of comfort. I don't want to assume that I do you

do you know I'm going to get to get to the morning and I'm to be

the stress is good is positive to a certain point. So, no I have

to feel to feel to make those repos and confronts and those

changes in my life, do you? But if I'm still I'm having symptoms, there is

I have to say, surely I have been a problem. I've passed a line that you

can be going to be in the time, and of the thing,

and there suddenly there's a lot, there's something that there there

there to do you do with that. There's but the thing is to start it. It's encasular

it, yeah, here, it's not cargaring me the stress all the rest of the

day and the rest of the time. And you go to plan to a way different.

Howtas times we're seeing to what is going to the what we're doing

we're doing that we're doing things or we we're doing we're doing things that we

don't do you and we're we're we're doing those that's

I mean, I mean, I pass it in, well, no it's important, but in some moment, in a little relation laboral, where me I'd know that I was I was in the officeina, and I was I, very a disgust

when that other person was also I was too, I had my body, until that one day I said, oh, this, no can't go, so, yeah, we're separated, and I felt much

more tranquil. I mean, we're to have, those canals that are sure, that can't to give us We're

doing what really we're seeing. So, so, is it is not you know

to get a non- you know it's a not you get a energy? Yes.

And you know how that's another thing. That is other thing we're very

accustomed to think, a bit, look at this, where where it is this

capacity say of sentiment and of communication. Generally, we think about in the Cerebro.

But romantically we say it's the heart. Is it? Right, or no? Well, there's a problem. It's a question of the

other person. And this has a radio of up three meters. Wow. So, a example very interesting.

A mother and a mother and you mides an electrocardiogram of the mother and an electrocardiogram

of the baby and if there a good relation, they have a perfect synchronia. Okay? The two,

the frequency of the baby and the frequency of the mother. But if you topas with someone,

you know, it's a doing mal vibra. That mal vibra is a

incongruency of that frequency cardiac, that variability of the frequency cardiac. And that's

something that's more and the way we're doing the way we we're doing to learn us

and say, no I have to share time with this person. And not it's like I say I'm

and you're not, simply no there's no, we're not we're doing we're not

we're doing we're able to now. Now it's more difficult when it's a person that's

in a circle of a family. But it's our health. And you know, it's your mechanisms of defense, then.

Tend conscience of this, and do all the necessary for that no to do you. Evita all the most that you can't, and if you're going to expose to that, be prepared. Well, yeah. For that's the time. If you let's the mind, who's, let's the

person, who has been a member in the family, a friend, a friend, no, how it's called? Oh, no, no, no, but But if it's so it's And a Sometimes it's It's like

Oh, Oh, Oh, well, oh, well, it's fulanita or and then it's part of

the circle or part of, how I want to invite or not I'm going to be that culpability

Entra this thing of this thing of love, is the and I'm you're

you're coming with that person and you're doing much damage. And you you're

getting energy and life to learn to learn to this all of a time.

Yes. Before to continue with the podcast I want to say that if in these days or

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other recommendation to alleviate stress, to avoid the stress? Because we have we about symptoms, of characteristics

of the damage. I think, I think Marko, that the best recommendation definitely

has to have to have to this this this conscience of all these elements that you have

to manage simultaneously. I don't I can't pretend that I'm not I'm doing my stress if not I'm

doing, if I do do care, if I don't have good relations interpersonal and I don't do my

body of abuse of substances. So I think that there are the responses. I mean, it's a recetta magic

but all the world to have consciousness of each one of these elements and in the

major the major of the capacities that we can't, to do all the better that that's that's in our

possibilities for a better to all those areas. Exactly. And I'll one more the concept

of learning to learn to do you? Honrarte to you to be a to be to do you?

I'm going to what me convienes and that is egoism is a good. Our culture

has things precious but one where the I'm the most great is there.

That sometimes we're very mueganitos, like we're like we're like we're like we're we're always

we're a little bit, we're a little bit more of individuality to say, this is what me

convien and this is what me convienes no important me. I'm not I think, I think if

you do you do you do you do you do you do okay? And you how much

people know know live to live with myself. How people

know really that's that is that islamient if you know, then that

certainly to be to have much better relations because you

guard that that's that you myself when you

you're and when you you're you can't you can't

give, you can receive of the other. I

think that's the secret so how in the error, that we're trying

to help a world, we're going to be a lot, and there's where more and more stress is general. With pleasure

to the other. Caerle well. Yes. You know, the thing, the thing is, and not for

what you really want to. That all of me approve. No? He wants to be kind of

what you do you do and resulta that a person who you know, and that's a lot of stress

to get a because it's to go, to be, and to to agradarly to all. Yes.

Tratando to care to get to help a and to help us and to not going to think to

me. And a sometimes we're in that trap because in the form in

the way in the way. And so, oh, don't say this, let's do this.

But, not say, so, if, if I'm not I mean, you know, I'm not

you say, I'm not to say, one of the one of the life is to learn to to say

to say to say, that, to say, to say, that not to what external in what I don't want to participate and not me convine is to say to my

health, see, to my life, see, to my, a my, a, my felicity. Yeah. No, it's like the most like, as like, like,

I want, without erring to you know, but respectatantly to you myself. And that's an equilibrium very so.

So, we've got to learn to to be with, now that now that's isolated and my people, oh, yeah,

I, I'm, you I'm, I'm, you're, you're in a hotel and incerra. And the

really, that's a problem. The problem in the COVID, right, and the symptoms and that I and I'd have

to get an energy. But I'm so much so I'm not so I'm so I'm I'm just, I didn't even

I needed to be able to be just to be getting of the things and I'm still with the and I'm

so I'm just to I'm just to get to get to me to get incered here only. I'm

I think that if you if you do those spaces, really I think you can't communicate more and I think you

more capacity of the good for the values more, the moments in that you are with other people.

Yes, thanks, Doctor. Any other question that we have been you know? Anna.

Anna, Anna, what is your question? There is there difference between the

anxiety and the anxiety is one of the manifestations of the stress. So,

don't don't you take in count like if it's the stress is that

response of your organism the how you this this caskata

of events of the production of these hormones all of these changes

what what is a level cerebral and one of the consequences is the

anxiety so so are or or that yeah

that yeah so so that it's so it's

it's it's so we learned much, doctor. I learned a level

more profound that's the stress and how you know, and how do you know, we're doing all a applause to

the doctor for having us parted all. Because the the worst in that we can't be is the

ignorance. If not I know how it I'm going to give the importance. So I'm

that this podcast of all caroson serve for that so for that we're to get

that's a thing not a little important in my life, it's a very important

and I'm put to to put attention. Recurances in where you can find out. Recurances in

where we can learn more to you. The book of medicine functional, that really not was

written for professionals of the health, but for the public in general. And the intention was

simply to demonstrate, not to say to to say to the people, there are options.

And this that I did two times and that I want to repeat in this moment,

we are the consumers, we have to demand that attention. So, me parece that is very important. If we have the instruments, the knowledge, the book, no, not try recetas,

but simply about the situations where we have the capacity to decide what is what we can't and we do we're doing with these. Do you? Don't coaching. Don't a line. How can I say to my doctor

if I'm not trying to is that is trying integrally if I'm doing all the aspects of my health

without, without to find him because I'm going to get to nothing to do you

do you know, you're to go to you were to your doctor and you were the patient how me

you'd you know I mean I'm going I'm a consumer that we're not a

service at the final of day so so I so I'm

so I'm so more I'm more the more than the medication, or so, what more

I can do over my problem of health? And if the medical, not you're not going to know who

is really, not you know, he knows it and not is having an aperture to give up to give up

other type of to think, if it's the medical, okay, thanks, doctor, for this medication, but what more

we can do? to work in the origin of the problem? That is the point. Just what you just what you have to say. A bit, the medicine conventional,

what is what he does, typically, obtain the information of your, let's see, your history, of your exploration, probably of some

the moment that has all those those data, those encahona in a diagnostic, and a part of that, what you decide is what will be

the medication, it's, medicament, and says, what, in the other of these,

are the those, are the question, but the medicine functional, the medicine

of the style of of the life, not they, they're they, because then

they're there, and where it's what was the process biological, what was

the system that's that's that's that's that's that what's

what I'm what you I'm I'm, I think, that's, I think, that's,

we have to make to make to our medical because not with what will

not what will be a not what is what you you're because I came in this.

And if not you don't have a response then there is where one

has question if really we're doing the correct or we

have to think on a question that's my responsibility because is my

responsibility because it I'm the I'm the question and my medical

then I want to look in other other other medical, and another

expert. In a book, in a little place, but I have to take responsibility of my

health. I'm going to the doctor and what I'm doing the doctor and yeah, with that

let me have been mentioned you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

two hundred? Look, you know, you know, I'm a couple, I'm a quote, okay? And I

I said, and I was, and I said, and I said, labors is like the you're doing health. You're

abriending consciences. So, this is just just to hear it just to go to come to come and that come and I'm

out of the way, that's really the essence of the health. And you thank you. And I'm

going to this year, we've grown to the collaboration of experts like you, who have been with all the heart to

help us. So, so thank you, thanks, thanks, of our heart our questions. We'll give

an applause with carino to Dr. Dr. Krujan. something. Algo more that you

do you to add? No. Nothing more anything for communication a time to the page

web www. www. That is your there's your there. There's your place.

I want to the doctor the doctor no, not you work as you only, you know,

you're a series of experts, you can't attend to the the page of the

internet here and in the not you we're talking for we're doing we're doing

we're and we'd be a course in line of medicine of the style of life, they'd like, encabesado

obviously for the doctor Krugam, well, we're going to do we're going to do that practice, doctor.

We're going to work and we going to launcher. Well, thanks to all. Thanks, I hope much the podcast

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