El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 262 - Los peligros de la leche y sus derivados - Dra. Marcela Sandoval y Chef Jorge Gómez Matuk

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

Crecimos creyendo que tomar leche y comer queso o crema es saludable. Sin embargo, los lácteos están asociados a varias enfermedades y deficiencias nutricionales que afectan a niños y adultos. Para hablar del riesgo de consumir leche y sus derivados, regresa al podcast la Dra. Marcela Sandoval, con el Chef Jorge Gómez MatukObtén el recetario de lácteos basados en plantas que el Chef Jorge Gómez Matuk, te regala en este episodio. Ve a https://marcoantonioregil.com/recetas  Tu mente puede sabotearte cuando estás comenzando a llevar nuevos hábitos en tu vida. Aprende a lograr que sea tu amiga, en mi clase gratis 👉: https:/marcoantonioregil.com/mente-pod ¿Quieres llevar del podcast a tu vida lo que aprendiste esta semana? Descarga GRATIS el ebook que te ayudará a lograrlo. Da click en marcoantonioregil.com/aprendamos  Sígueme en:Telegram: marcoantonioregil.com/telegram Sigue a la Dra. Marcela Sandoval en:Instagram: @dra.marcelasandoval  Sigue al Chef Jorge Matuk en:Instagram: @jorgegomezmatuk                  @tallerveganico *Importante: Nuestros invitados son expertos en sus temas y reflejan su conocimiento y su punto de vista, siendo conscientes de que cada una de las opiniones es totalmente personal. La información, datos, comentarios, estadísticas que se presenten en el Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil, son de exclusiva responsabilidad de quienes las emiten y no representan, necesariamente, el pensamiento de Marco Antonio Regil o de la producción del podcast.

Grand Fiesta American, Monterey Valle, present it. It's good for your muscles. It's calcium. Your children need calceo, you need calcio, you need calceo, is bad? It's propaganda. The animal that is more than us is the chimpanzee. We're 98.6% adenidictical to the chimpanzees.

And even as, a moma chimpanzee, I don't let me give one of my kids, mamathe amamantala. The leech of the vaca is designed to make a bcerro of 60, 70, 80, 80 kilos that nace to 300, 400 kilos in months.

So, the ser human, why want to take that? Of what, of what, to make, taking that rest of your life? Not just, at the principle.

The body of the human is designed to be designed to nutriarly and to eat only the things that are done. There's a

studio that says that with a one one one single of leach that the woman consume

for day augment an 73% the risk of cancer, I believe. One of the industries

more powerful of the planet that gana millions and millions and millions of millions of millions of the industry

of the lacteus. And at the decades of publicity and mercadne and to patroning articles

in period books, books and all a quantity of studies, we can think that

the people, we need to take the other animal, of other mammifer, the leach

the leach of the leche of the case, but today we're to analyze

from the point of the scientific. If, of the real, the human we need to take a

black, and we need to our life. And, we'll learn how to use. So, it's a

podcast very interesting. Kedensse with us. We're in the Hotel Fiesta American, Monterey,

Monterey, New York, with our live, Listos to get to run. Episode 262. Come, we

The podcast of Mark Antonio Regil. It's a production of RGL and all the

The doctora Marcela Sandoval is medical ciruano with a mastery in nutrition. It's certified in style of life and in his practice has helped a hundreds and hundreds of patients to revertil the cancer and salvar his life. With more of 10 years of experience

in consult, as a professor in media and redes has has shown strategies for the prevention, control, and or correction of different

different enderneratives in all the stages of the life. Jorge Gomez Matuk is funda and chef

of the Talley one of the first and the first and the first and the first of

the people of people in the publicist and the movement in the industry,

continue to help to help to make access to more more than delicious, the doctor

Marcela Sandoval and Jorge Gomes Matuk, are in the podcast. Thank you

Marcella. Thank you Marcella, thank you for this becky thank you this big invitation to

try a disinformated the day of today. Thank you, Jorge, for here. Much of the invitation.

Very great-gras, Marcia, for the invitation. Very content to be here with you guys, and we'll talk to talk about. Well, we're going to start directly with the problem original. Where comes the idea?

A, a baca, a beseerito, consume the leech of your mom. Aweha, all the mammophers consume the leech of our own own. You, amomentast

to your kids? How many? Hives. Three years to each one. Three years to each one. Of where and in what moment came the idea, because that's of

a year recent, since some of the decades for here, that the people need to take a leech of other species and during

our life, Marcella. No, I see this time, you know, like the leech of a black,

is white, like the leech a motherna, it's a substitute, and here we can't do

we can't make a other things more, but really the history so remonted a little

when the mom or the woman has to have to start, now, the power

feminine, and, well, is more sexy to go to work than to be in house amamenting.

But here I'm, revolution industrial. We're going to give you a solution. We're

to give you soupitas of fastil coction, and we we're here the leach that also

that you do calcium and it does it does it don't you think in what

year? In what a campaign? And if we're all a campaign, we're we're going to

the campaigns that started to land where the industry lacta and took the thing, to make the

mother desistier to ammantar and start to come to the formula created for the leech is gratis,

the leche of the money is great, and the formula I can't sell a market

is creating a world where the formula was better than the the leche of the I think

from the years of the first you have to the protein of

but not in the group lacto. It's a formula, is a medication. And this is very interesting to know

because it's a life. When a mother no can ammantar but what is the percentage

of those mothers? Really, what we are we're living in the time of the lactance

is that we're we're doing to the women less security in the fact of

amamantar if you can't you can't have been a minimum percentage that

not a percentage that we can't do give a great much more you're going to a hospital to the expo

to see the because you're embarrassed and they're and they're literally you receive the industry of the formula

lacta of your baby will be more going to be more if you do you give your your baby

will be to get better if your formula then so lactancy no no I don't

have time I've got a infirmation and you go back the moral, you're going disinformating and

this is very complicated, the lactance you enjaula, but, we know, we have this proteins,

it's not just it's just to get addictos to the babies, for that it's,

and it has and it has a thing of things, that when you've the

different of the the textid, the the tissue, the tegid the tissue

mammary, the the tissue of the tissue of the material, versus the

formula, no doesn't comparison any, the what is a formula versus the live

that is the lactance. But definitive that in that formula we can observe in the ingredients that the

vases that the backs are in the world where there's a family and the people are dying

to get the army and the the leech of the baby because the mom not is

producing for a baby or a woman who is that not produce but that is

a percentage But here the thing is that it's that they want to to make to make

to make sure that's that's in the short-plas because we're not many people

we're doing that compared to the babies amamantados with the leech maternal versus

those of the form and we've in the medium and long and in the

short-plas the risk of asthma of cancer of cancer, of cancer,

of course and much has to do just with the protein of the backas

exactly so, exactly. So, for to start from from

the point of a view of medical, is a better the leach maternal or is the formula, like the industry of the lactors? No,

it's always the leach of your mom. It's logical, no? It's a thing. We need to need to be

a study of an study of scientific to recognize that. Of course, what, what, what,

what, God, the universe of the universe entire, how, how, how is a

formula chemical? But there is very good good because it's a need and then

my dear Jorge, like you know, you know, you in all the industry of the food and with your restaurant,

with all that you're an appassionate of the investigation and the development of products sanos, well, you know, the famous lactosa in a loton

of products that's hidden. There are no, in papitas fritas, in where we found we're not the lactosa

that's in. Ascondida, as, as you know, as it's, chocolate, uh, dulces,

many things processedados, um, mayonnaiseas, what more, well? Cremas. Some are the

things that we come we're doing day to eat, that we don't know even that's even that's a thing that's,

because the, what is the lactose Marcella? It's an sugar, it's the sugar of the leech,

of the leech of a and it's addictive? Well, there are other components that are addictives in

the leachie, but the lactose is an acucal is an of babies, we have enzymes to romper the lactosa in nutrients that no serve

but the lactose to our mama. And conforme we're growing, we're getting that enzyme to romper that sugar and for that everyone is over intolerant to the lactose. Because the only moment in the life where really

we need, then we're when we're when we're in the infancy. And we're doblown the leech of the mom, the leech of the same species. Sure, for suppose.

No, I'm not I'm sorry. I'm not, I don't I'm not a big different to a vacate a example

that's a example that I'm a lot of the human in the biology so you know so it's the animal that is

the animal that's the chimpanses we're 908.6 percent adenid identical to the chimpensse I don't

let's give one of my my chimpanset amamantala because I'm going to go to a back to

say that because even you get to get to Google and you you're going to a baby and risa and

and risa and put in the ubre of the vacanting. Now, dentro of what I've studied, if we're 98.6%

aden identical to the chimpanzees, the vacas, Marko. Aluna ever I've a 48%

recently I'm a 60% but this is very interesting. Like in the 2015 I went to a museum

of biology, no, ofciences and there an exposition of the comparative of the

ADN human versus other animals and insects. And I said that with the

Mosca we're 52% similar in ADN. And in that sense, I had the formation of the 48% of the so I'm to say,

if we're more similar to the moscow, if the moscow if the moscow would be able to do you want to do that you

completely out of orbit this thing of that the vaca us alimenta and no something

is that a thing is that, no, see, the people in the India or in in a little where

Mexico, or the of Central America, there's there's a extreme, and the mom is not really,

and the then it's you're not the leech with other animal. In those cases,

or not with that. Well, because, well, if we're going to get in

the time to let's when a mother not when a middle, is that you can

get a other mother that could amamantar and that that would be a a lot of

exactly. Exactly. It would exactly. It's a a thing very interesting and controversial

for those that are listening but I'm what I'm that I'm that's the water of cocoa

about the water of the co-trapack or these waters. No, that's no, that's not it.

What it's is the water direct of cocoa, because it's a tissue very similar or a

profile not primal very similar of the leach materna and after two years

me invited to the faculty to do the public to do a day and just

came a Nutriologist, I think of Veracruz, and he says, that's what we're doing, we're doing, so, is what we're doing, so there's, no, there's not for where rescat her to save

the milk of Baca and formula, because we have other options. Okay, perfect. Another of the ingredients, my dear Jorge, that is a secret, that is a derivative of the leech, of Baca, not only is the lactosa,

but the famous cassenea, that they met in a lot of ingredients. Is correct? Yes, I've seen many many things.

I'm used to not used to not used to food more than food food for you know, I know what I'm

a lot of them is one of it's a we're in many cheese, even there's even though they're not

veganas so they're but they're they're not they're going to they're not they're gonna say cheese

so they're exactly but it's vegetarian and you see the and the main part of the

people know doesn't know that's the causeeina and it's a derivative. And it's a and it's a altameteerative also, no?

Well, there's a, there's like a combo that's chaseymorfinna. Casemorphina. So, yeah, I said all the word, the morphina is the addictive. So I have people that me say, look, me, say, look, me

all, let me's ask me you, me is talking, you, me's talking, you know, my's-a-chimic-addicta. So, what we do is quit that addiction alimentary, in where, of where, of course,

that you're going to pass for a syndrome of abstinence, but the casaymorphina not is tan-addictive as a heroin where we have to interned in a center

addiction of drugs here no, a week, the time, the addiction to the lactions, completely. But the cassanea is

a protein altissomently cancerigena and I have good data. And that's the reason for the

that the cheese, that is a food, but it's a concentrate of the leech,

of the the leche of the so I imagine that Mother Naturalela let's put these

these ingredients for that the bevito when his mamita when his mamma he makes, no, and he he comes?

Yes, but no is for us for us. It's for us for us. But I'm not for the baby. I'm about the

leech of the same species. And there's a lot of hormones and things that cause them that cause them felicity.

Felicidad. So the baby is a little when mom the momant so if you don't know

the back, although no you don't you need the the same effect. For

so we like the leech. And the cheese is the mega concentrated of the little of the

little. The case is a natural, it's a process. And so it's like,

how it's a piece of and it's, oh, oh, oh, that's the cheese

and the no, it's no, it's no, it's the more, it's, it's no, it's not,

because right, we're just about the lactosa and the proteinas, but right we're not to be a

mugner or more than the lachos, no, but you see that's, you know

a ton of toxins, they're muchississim a lot of saturated, the oxyxin that also

are also associate much to them neurological, a time of cancer, then there there's much

to rask in that the tuesday that we know, and, sorry, it's not

the problem, the proper mama-baca but the hormones that they metier to make sure

more leach because we need to we need is a new so then all that no is

no is a casuality tantissimo in a thing of an

formidependent tantissimo thing gynecological from endometriosis cancer of mammac cancer

of paris cancer cervical cervical there's there marko that no us

that no us pertenees that we're that not those our muscles

what is the principal cancer in woman and the day

of day of mom dependient And not is casuality that the day of we're talking about the lacto

just for that the time. And the consumption of lactos has been going and sub and subing and it's

going to unfortunately I'm in the supermarkets, the leches vegetables, and the leches of the

and you have a presence important. In some supermarkets, depending on the location,

you can you can't you can't you're more the leches vegetables than the vaca more,

I mean, in different parts of the world is But there's going to be going to be there's a way there's

like California the consumption of the leech of back, it's a bit of back, in many of places of the

world. But I'm referring in the decades of what he was there in the first, second war

world, to the time that we took to live to us. You know, those lactos for all

parts. It's a part. It's a big of the product of totally. Totally.

Well, obviously Jorge Comis Matuk not is a medical, but he in a

question and is an expert in substitute because I know what has reclamed in other episodes,

for example, the salchichas, it's good, yeah me convinced to not eat and how do you and then make that error,

let's trygimus to get a Jorge, that's an expert in substituting lactose, for you guys how you can

cook delicious when they're to come to a Monterrey and a tallyer various times during his time,

for you in the menu, it's delicious for you as a for you, you who you,

you can work in the the kitchen, it's is difficult substitute the lacteos and that the

people get a content the fact that the fact no so if it's a realto because

if you do you do you can't get a more more yeah

yeah that for example what options for example we have almendra

avena no is of the india are even even even things with

things with we can we can't sometimes the when you when you when you

when you when you a lot not does spuma. No, but the of the avina yeah.

The of... The avina, even the of the nues of the india also the kind of a new especially,

there's more there's more going to be going to the time, then more. It's going the industry

of the leches vegetables. So, I'm going to see eight years, 10 years, or more, so if it's

very difficult. But right, the fact is there's more more options incredible, that you're going to

not not not a much that you're that's that's a part of the avon is the

less water. So, you need much more more than to produce a leach of a better

to do you know, that's a thing of the thing of the media but especially the leech

of the thing that the water needs. That's a lot of it was another plus more

that has the lece of the part it is economic the avenor with alman with the

nut of the india et cetera because are things that can coster a bit more

caras the vana you can you can you can't you can is going to use

less water and more more nutritive and more more cream over the thing is the thing that's the

thing that's the rest of the least the most difficult of all the substitutus that are to to have to

consume to eat the origin animal the most the most difficult to pay

it's the cheese and you do you make very rich in your menu

the risotto one one one one does do with

with with coffee with that is very very simple that

that complex is it's a little a leach vegetable

that you want to put a well, you put salvaca or something to do

a something is a pasta over-cocida with a little a

little a little of a little of a salt

lavour nutritional for that you do that that you

do you do get something it gets derretted to

get to And then you're And you're going to All right. And you're going to do. All right. All right. All right.

Well, what I'm going to do? Well, Jorge, here is to salvage. The cheese Amarillo. The quixit Amarillo. Well,

another thing, one of the great, tell me, if it's a reality, of the grand points of the mercantina of the industry of the

lacto is, is good for your muscles. It's good your needs calcium, you need calce, you need to

take milk of a or of a be of the of the for the calcium is it's right

it's propaganda it's mere propaganda it's mer mercautem because really

it's really it's like you know the cereals and a cashita and with

eight vitamins and minerals so so practically it's an addition this calio and

the fact is we have we have we students we're many

in the morning a couple of hours me took to give a conference about cancer

and medicine of the style of life. And one of of the references that I present is of 1999 where

is a study of 57 studies more and how it's the consumption

of calcium of origin animal with cancer primarily of prostate. Wow. The

prostate. So if we're about the cancers, the more related

with the lactions, is the prostate and there are many people that are many experts that

we're going to it's not in prostate it's even in mama this is this is the only not

in cancers of the blood like the like the so so so

this that but Marko I want I'm I'm I'm

on the minute that you're to say more to where you where you

go you go you're you can you you're consuming lactos, because I remember to read

revistas in where you know like revisties like women's health where I said if you consume four rations of lactos all day,

you're going to more of the because you're doing women's health because you want to have that that's shopied etc.

But really there much much conflict of interest of the industry. When I studied the first of nutrition that was

studying medicine in my books of text there were some copies that you had to get to

to get the book and Nestle. So there's there's a great conflict of interest.

Now, who does the guise the guidance for the government in where he's all this is

what you have to eat? The Association American of Cardiology that has all to have been

in the principal in the main us is not not being so Pepsi

Texas Beef, so the Karner Res of Texas Nestle Domino's

Kellogs Kraft Subway So, is what is what are to recommend? Sure.

I've seen many many of so many of there's a another that's a not that's

for your for your because of the thing. So, well, you're going to go to

do you, what you're that's that you're saying that you're saying that you're not no,

no, and they're they're they're notucinam and they're that's just if you

want to make a time of the lightos, no, cacki me sob't me sover the

You know, the money. Yes. But, but I'm like a enthusiastic. Sure.

And so you're doing you're doing. You're do you're for sure. You're to do you

do things in the media's of communications, etc. Etcate, etc. Here,

not. Here, not said you have done no dollar of the industry, the

poweros of the Quaker, not been here to me to the Quaker, no, Quaker, the corrito

that is a group Pepsiico, for sure, that are producers of the Vena.

Very good. Yes. Well, this, and not us have been to offer to offer money.

Oh, I don't know, what are the industries, maybe of the most of the people who have been in the money

to be the liquideras. No, Oatley, which is a leachie of avene, O'Tley, that's an

Super Bowl, the supertasone, that is one of the new brands that has been that has been that has been

that have been money for So O'T Mioco, no? Mi Yoko, are The wayne

in Los Angeles, but no has patrocinated. The industry, the association of producers of the Almendra of California

is another that's a that's a thing that's that's also, and apart we can't

compare to these and what they can do do that the industry ganadera, the industry

of the industry of lactio that's in all parts, so when when we these articles and these

publications, always we have to ask us, or we've seen, let's have done done money

for that they're to be able to this? Here, I'd like that they'd do it. I'd like to

do the because of the vegetables. But no. To you do you do do you do you?

To provide a poweros industry of the avena? Still no. No. Oh, oh,

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And now we'll come. So, there's a benefit of all what you say the industry of

the lactions. I'm I'm clear. I need the my mom, of my

species, of a nodrysa. Only only of but of adult no I need no need

no. And I'm Vegetal, also. I mean, the tomato. Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, because I'm like, but, I mean, if we're about it, I'm,

I'm, could be, I'm, would be, other way, to the formulas, and we're, that's the

formula of soy, is the that could be more better, but I'm, you know,

when you're, a cereal, a, a cereal, a, I, want my coffee with

Leach, et, but really, I, so, not so it's a life

more happy and the substitute of cheese and the mollettes that's a good

for a vegan is very it's it's for good I'm I'm

I'm just I'm but I need to and the little I'm no

so there no no no no no in calcium or

no in vitamin D where the broccoli. So basically, although there are people that

we're going to and let's go out of a lot of a lot of things a base of plants, a lot of seeds,

you do it all, you do all. And something is that if we're specifically of the

well, we know, we need to we know, we need to be we need to magnesium, phosphoro,

vitamin D, lignanos. So, then I need the linaza of preference recently recently

recently my vanes my vanes my vanes of the sun I need I'm using different

nuis and some newses and my fruits and my vegetables and my when my mom

was in your years, between the multiple end of the multiple incalcification of the

bloods. And then she consumed all her life to many of many of the doctor's

and the he quito the he quitos the yeah that's yeah,

yeah well that part of the was she was in a

institution that, how is an organization religious, that are vegetarians? Adventists. The Adventists of the Septimodian.

We're not not even though we're not because they were in a conscience of health that the other places not had. And there

just the medical us would explain that the United was the consumer number one of lacteos in the world and it was the

country with more descalcification. So, then we said, it was he actually the leche of the black,

descalificing that because not you didgering then your your I don't know, I'm a medical. Yes,

something? Yes, yes. Something of the muscles to get it? Is correct, or? Yeah. So, when

a element very acid reactiv to your tub digestive, so it's so it's an acid, although our stomach has a

pH, very acid, we need to get calceo of the bones to make a a buffer, a stability,

of that of that acidity. But, but figgate that in that time, very interesting then,

we're not to hear not from the medical, this type of commentary. what you're going to

ask you, it's, it's a woman postmenopausica. Sure. As it as a

lot of cause it's, then for being a woman and you're a maldiction of having a problem.

Because it's also also also another mytho. When we really a style of life a good,

you pass a menopausee and a problem completely solidable and you don't have

because to have osteoporosis. For suppose that the lactios have there a paper

super important but also also we're about about regulation hormonal. There's

There's much to try in this time. Yeah. Another thing that also I mean me desenchinoe the

I'm put so like Lacey when it is that obviously the vacas of who can consume the

leech, not are the bachita in the rancho where he was a grangero in the

mangero in the and he's in a cubetita and then it's no, so it's not they're

not, so are not they're not they're they're in the becero so

that the bcerro not the robe the leach, I mean, we're we're

we're we're doing to the Becerro, but well, the producer quitted

the bcerro and the bserro, the bserro the bens the berner and it's but the

vaca is ordained with machines various times a day for what the damage to the

bug is enormous. The mastitis. The mastitis and it is a blood and it's like legally

permitted as a percentage in the industry. In the the regulation sanitaries.

It's correct. the regulation sanitaries. So, I mean, so, I don't know how specifically but, but,

the regulation, I mean, the regulation, sanitaria, alimentia, permit, it's, it's a

type, and, and it's, and it's, and then, and then, and then, what is, what is the

pasteurization? The pasteurization is the process of, like, to, like, to,

like, to get the toxicity to this, or the infection, for that we do it, so,

so, to put it to put it to to make the temperatures up to make sure to eat your and when you're

a number a temperature salta, you're not as you're all and what you're a lot of the city?

The life. What's that's live there, whatever that's a life you don't have

so it doesn't not even that's, so that the only you'd be in the house of the,

the leach the leach that's a cubeta, of the vacace already that there there's

there that even we even we have the great investigators in cancer and cardiovascular

the doctor Ticolin Campbell and St. St. St. that just his families were to

do you today, of 90 years, God, me, so revirting the

the world the world with the world, with the studies more of this family,

but this is not going to be not a family ganadera, a he's

now the medical that's now more duched just to to change

that point of view to know. There's there's there's there's

he's there's he's so there so that's how it does it because it

does it directly in what it's in what it does there there's

there there there's there there's there's there's there's

it's it's about the lottoes in general because the lactoes is from the leachos

the cream the cream that the cream that you put to the coffee for me is cholesterol in

polvo like that that's that that's the no the carnation that's no the cream it no's come the cremittas

yeah no no yeah the the ones that the one the way

a little like a so like a so much so I'm so right yeah

well that that's a cream for the coffee for the coffee for me for me is cholesterol

in polym completely this well what yeah yeah the lech

the lech the yaculth that for the probiotic The Yaculte They're like,

what has the Yacult? Well, for the supposed, a lot of sugar, that I imagine that's for the probiotics,

but no has no any benefit. I mean, if we're a food on an base of plants,

30 plants different during the time, we have a microbiota intestinal merently

and a veryly healthy. But, but well, in this group of products,

we have hormones of the proper animal, more the hormones

that for that they're producing more, my, oh, at the most, this vaca had cellulas and it's

no way, and then we know, and, so we've been you mentioned, they're many more tithis, that's the

infection and inflammation of the glandulas mammaries. So, they can have, uh, you can pass

that's, there's tegidos, there, there, there, there's a lot of toxins more, um,

basically, basically, yeah, so, it's super industrialized, I've seen images, I don't know if you have you've seen,

the way of you've been to you're doing, even to the back literally a old, and they they're like a compuerta

so mechanical and the veterinario and makes the hand, the vaca the back, they're like a like a

see you've seen you've seen you've seen I've seen something with what you I'm talking about that's doing

that's things. No, to me too I think what's what's this? No, no, I don't know

not a human human no was a not a documental of

a denuncial for for medical for medical for medical so let me

to make me to do you so it's not someone was a video

to do it was video of so so there there's the

there's the images we're we we've we've we've

we've we've we've converted to the animals not

like a one one one that's a one

other other thing also that also I'd like to agree to the

the leach the back is designed to make a bcerro to 60, 70 80, 80 kilos to

make a 300, 400 kilos in months. So the human, why want to take

that's how to take that the rest of your life? Not just at beginning

to grow. No? I know, no, I know what you do you know,

but has the doctorate but has the doctorate, No, yeah, totally. It's just about

a studio that I'm trying to the morning, but for here I'm a last time, where we've talked about

what you do you do you have the bads the grass to the and the food is

that the food versus leach not a of the 2% not? This is

that that's that's that's that's they're being in the same they're

in the future. So, it has it's the mother natural

nature created that leach for a Bcerro that's how to be a lot of

300. Above of 300. I'm in 300 kilos. And you you're a human that you

don't have to be 200 or 300 or 300 kilos. Exactly. You're eating the

nutrients that that God or Mother Nature or Pachamama or you want to

call to make a car to becerro to become in a bacononon. Exactly. So you

you're then you're then you're then you then you then you then you're what does

you're doing you're Echandolina, the gasoline, the food that was designed for you. Exactly.

Exactly. And the lactic is it's hidden, is still in the papas pretas. I was reading that the Pringles that me

used to use, those papitas pringles, those knows those of the botecito. Yeah, they're not

they're in lightos. And they're in, in places that you never you imagine. Even if you're not

they're not that they're those adobadas, for the regulares, the originales. Exactly. There's

there tryin lacto. See in polvo they puten. No, no, I don't know for what? I don't. No, but also is contamination. I'm going to

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm gonna come up because look, say, ingredients, and also can contain trasses of the leech and the

nois of the India. Well, the also, it's contamination. It's for contamination cruised. But I, I,

I, like, vegan, sincerely when something, when something is, it can't continue, I do

the consume because I know the recipe no it doesn't even It's not In machines And that's just in machines And that's And that's like It's like I'm

It's like it So if I'm If I'm If I'm Okay, perfecto Now, let's Let's talk Let's talk about

The problems of the leech Ofcaque What other Forma does it You know You know You know

You know A form of Caseses Because of Kessadiel How can Can't do Can't

Can't Can't Can't Can't So, Facilment, well, we'll

say, we're not complicated. But, for example, the recipe for example, for a

case for a case, that's not of the India cruda, you're going to do you knows of the

India, tapioca in polvo, this, he was salt, leodro nutritional. Some Pocon,

a little of water, and is, is liqued all the things and put them to,

to put them to cocea in a sarten. You'll be more or less something like a kind of a kind of a choriceo vegan

and you're there to make you there's a lot to make it? A chorizo vegan is a good. Like a

kind of We're not really. Of the kinoa. We're not we're just in the tally we're not of the troyal

and salazar of salazar and marcella it's probably it's very good and it's very good and it's not

ultra-processed. No, you've tried the machado of the avenor. Oh, no. For favor, if I go especially in the mornings to the tahrir-veganic to eat as much, I've changed my way to go to dinner the matthews. Let's do

one thing. In Marko-Anoniorregil.com diagonal recetas. We'll just make some recetas and they're just put them and all. Yes, because right now it's, it's me too complicated, right? Sure, so verbally. But

with ingredients and all and so we're gonnaeatheal.com, diagonal, recetas. Yeah, we're of lactos and of cheese.

You know, okay? Well, then when we consume we like it, also, you know,

say yous a rata. Tell us. Well, there are toxins that are the cancer and

that the more them we're not expuest to that is more risk to

have a more time. That's not a day of the 60, 70s

we're we're an altissimo consume of ultra-processed and of this type of products, because right we're seeing canceres

of mama. I mean, my principal, how's the group of patients that more may have a consult, are women,

between 20 and 40 years with cancer of mama metastasical to the is the is what is what right is to the

model. And much more has to be the thing nutritional with this group, from this group,

but I'm not is the toxina. It's all the other than the most that comes around. Yeah. One question that I have to do, although I know the

response, but much people do you know, how is possible? If all this is saying in the podcast is true, if all what says the doctor is true, if this is so,

so, if it's provoked cancer of mama and of prostate, well, is that not it is that in the month Rosa of the health?

Nobody says, don't say, why don't say this information? Deree should be be there's in all the notisieres,

they'd be in all the periodical for the because of the public for the reason why you

don't know because of the industry. This is a conflict of interest. There's

much money after of this. And, the first that's the certified

of the Certificate of Nutrition of Dr. Campbell, who is the author of

the study of the humanity about about cancer of the health

is about conflict of interest and that not is

oh, it says Texas Beef, the the C

of Texas. This there's a conflict of interest here. No. There are associations

of, no associations with men very bonitos and that there's no, there's

no, there's a problem, not a not health, pro-dinner for them. And this

also can in our schools of nutrition, in our schools of medicine, and in

the academias in the pediatria, of the coreason, et cetera. I want to mention

something, that in the Congress of in the style of life of 2020,

appears a a pediatra to talk about about the food for people, please, pediatras

professionals of the health, is ridiculous that a little to a year of a guy,

that here in Mexico and Latin America is used much of these guides, there's there's

much more different rations of lactos for day obligatory for the nutrition, two years.

That's every racy a media tasa. Let's two tassas of leech, two tases of Kesa, et cetera. Now, when you see the perfil

nutritional of that, that has the same quantity of the grass saturated, that the grass saturated is primarily in the animals and we need

not need to be the same quantity of grass saturated than 17 rebanadas of tocino of pork. Wow.

The tocino of pork. So, we're going to our children, we're not auto-enfermando for not utilizing the

sense of common and who's patrocinating the guides and the guise of the government or, you know,

perfect, you go to the pediatra, abre the eyes, put to investigate who are the people who are

that's a industry super-poderoos. You're going to that Oprah, the famous Oprah, the demanded justly the

ganaders of Texas, not see if was that association in particular or were all the

people, but they did in your program that she not to eat a

time. And then the demand was that the great influence that she had a time in the

time in or the television, it was all the world and in the world

entire they were to the world and they were a not going to get to the

carne, and he was to do you to do you because he was going to go to a juic

that. That's not that of that was going to that part I'm not mentioned nothing

that of the question. It was lost It was made But never As part of the Accuade of the

settlement that you know in the Arregul-to-Cere Sheerer She never could comment what happened

in the court of But imagine the power that has industry That's the Because of

someone People say I don't I'm going to eat I'm going to They're They're

They're They're We're We're We're It's a industry Gennadderer

That's that And lactose, not you know you saw that of Oprah? No, me I know. No, well.

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in the plate of their food of your Well, no, I mean, it was he took it in a bit of a bit of a hector. He said, he's not, he said, he's a little bit of a year. It's not, you know, it's a lot of

and not the lacteos, but for any motive. But they've got to the diger of the little bit of going to.

We're going to. Because that's like that's like that's that's the plato of Harvard, but in the 2012 there's a

other plato that also that's of the United but for government and literal the digito you'll just

you'll have got to you're there's there's to consume it as part of a

diet of all. I'm I can imagine to the patrosinators. Yeah and

a But, despite of the enormous power that in the industry of the lactoes, have been to do march back in some things. There was a campaign very famous in the

years 70, 60, 70, that was in English, was milk, or leech, does a body good, he does a body good, and that's the not milk? That's always

got milk? No, that's the of now. That's still. Still, still. Still, for the substitute. Oh, no,

with athletes famous. Yes, that's the bigots of leach. That's why that was the new campaign. The anterior era, the leach the money and the time

for the time medical, after the time after the power that they were to change by GodMil that is, you've got to

leech and the bigotitos and they contract athletes very famous, they're cano- cano-asos of money

for annonciaries. That's all without with the quadrits and models, et cetera. Yes, and it's a

campaign of a market technology enormous, enormous, enormous, Merk. Oh,

there are things to go to make it things beautiful, things beautiful.

You know, the the tayer vegan of the things like the Mexican that's the

lot, the lot. The lot. The elote. And it gives a cremita. A

who doesn't a lot of lot with a lot? Tire Vennier Vonterreya

does a version based in plantas deliciousa that I think more than the

originales. Because is the theme. When you know when you well, you know,

it's a good to be a vegan no, no, no, it's just a better than the original. Exactly.

It's good because it's really, yeah. For example, that elote he's a in best of

cream, I use a cream that I'm a small, very simple, I mean, ingredients,

water, semilla, gyrasol, salt, a little of limon, and also also

also gave the case that's a base of pasta with a pasta with banana basically.

So, is something, is something, is, something, vegetable that you equal a

a about a and the lactios and the mal quality. Because the majority of

the lotes that you find you in the case or in the case they use in the caseo

or the cream. are so are not that they are in refrigeration never.

This you see in the in the markets, at temperature ambient

I don't know, I know I'm know I know I put to investigate

what is what they tryin but definitely not me those

want to I preferrower a million times something that you a semeter or supera

the experience and the result is that you know you do you and also I'm

I'm a I'm 9 years with the restaurant in these nine years at the beginning

we did we know that the 80% of our clients not are not not even

veganes they were because they were because they was because I'm

going to go to go to the past of the year still the no vegan or the,

not vegan, or the no vegetarian, because they're like the food, and that means that means

that's to say, or we're maybe some more than what they're in the market, no? I,

every rato you make a time, I get, and they're they're saying, and you, they're doing

a photo to get a Instagram, and you, and you're good. Oh, oh, yeah,

good, it's so, it's, because, because, there, there, there, there,

there, there, there, there's a kind of, of the food. But the grand majority of the people

not is that's that's being vegan. There's a lot of people are they're in form paulatina.

That's a quite positive also. Although not it's a change a complete, while

incrementen their consumption of vegetables, they're going to have better results in their health in their

humor and also in the environment. You're not you're a person you're a lot of

the car of carnivoreito. Regenerate. Imagineate. Yes. Carnes assadas in my house

all the matthes. Here in Monterey is a morning and I'm a lot of because of it's a

from the morning it's like that the morning. You know it and you're going to be used the video and it's an

exaggeration? No, no, no. And how you'd be to open a restaurant based in plants in the city

maybe more carnivora of Mexico? Well, a lot of this has to this has to the antidote

where is the antidote where we're going to where more we're more to consume of the

Carta, we're going to let's make it the vegetable. There's many people that's going to do you know,

but they're doing it. Metan an that's a thing that's a little bit and then it's going to be

nine years. And, uh, and see, and we did you. And so, you've been. And so,

and then it's another. And then you get a yeah. But you, but you know, you're not,

you know, you know, you're not, you know, not. You know, and how you've started

to make to make the architected to make From, from and I'm dedicated I

to times of the food before this. I had a new business of banquettes for events

from, which is it from this is in the 2013. Well, in the 2012, 2013, more or

but with the last year, nine years. Felicities. Thank you. And, and so,

it was like, to, for me always me always, to be, to be a lottot

in contrae. So, me, I'm going to do this and, you know,

I'm going to get us, we're going to get us to a new thing a lot of this, this,

as the colony tan piquito here in San Pedro. And, and it was what you really the

attention of much people, that's what's going, a bit, a lot of a little

to a different, we, we're going to be to what we see, and that

we're there's about seven different, but thanks to the The success you.

And the success that they're also. And the thing they're very good there's not the first. We've been. It's, not the first. And there's, not the first. And there's, vegan in Monterey, in where the entire

a new thing a new thing a mechanic in a public, because not is a colony nice, so with restaurants and centers

commercial, no, it's a one a class media, yeah, with with the streets chis chiquitas, no,

any stationments, is more antivu than piquito than all San Pedro. Right, exactly.

There's, there, there, there's, there's, there's, wow, and you've

got very wow, and you, so, we're going there, um, offering the,

the, There are many people recommended by Marcella and for many other doctors.

There's people with a profile that you know that you're to get to a restaurant vegancett

a little to put it so. They're, they're people with their vienna and with

his vitties and somebrero probably they're notarers and they get them because the doctor they're getting

that can be able to they're to come and that is the pharmacy. In to go to the pharmacy to

to buy a medication you're going to a tallyer veganical to buy the antidote for the thing. I think part of

the problem that is that is that's that's a food a food based in plants as a abridate

that's the you know, you know, I'm a man who's a manhurt in Leone, Guantauau

you know, that's a bit of what's all? I think like like it's like a lot tacos, casadillas

emolada, The machado. The machado. It's just. It's just your postres. You have a It's opes of

tortilla. Goodissue. The carvance with yaka, is a cocktail. It's a cocktail. It's a cocktail with a carvance

with yacka like it. The chist is that, look, put to be the grand variety of... That's of mariscus like a cocktail

of marisco sounds good. How, how, how is? Look, the typical cocktail that uses salsa

catsup, with limon and pico of gaio and guacacet and they put and pylyl and pylcoe,

all the whatever whatever is exactly the and you're the vegetable

that's a lot of this. You can use from a cocoa fresh simulando

or call a chayo to garbanzos the yaca there are there. There are

there, there are there there are there ongos and at the moment

to change only only a few ingredients and to just all the

other those all the originales if if is a

I'm a man of the mind of that you think you you're in you're in the cocktail

you know, you know, you know, a gadget salad and you put you something like you,

you know, you're not to feel that's a different. The texture. The texture is change and

all but it's a good. Yeah, but what is the time to a cocktail I think

part of my life in in Sonlo in Sonora is the Pacific Mexican, well what

what is the saltita. The limon, the chilito, the pico the tomato the onion,

until it's all the caverns and you take the coffee, oh, you know,

oh, you know, you know, the juice, you know, it's, that's, you know,

to put it's a, a lot of, a carbanzo, the, which is practically the majority of the ingredients,

I mean, in the kitchen in general, in the in the in general, we, we know,

so, millions of products of origin vegetable, with, we, we're, we're,

we're just, carne of pork, cameron, pes, pesters, Pollos? Dimmem

Mastres. Coyos. All the all the all of the things. A lot of we're not

to get us webo, lactios, etc. We're going to put 15 things. So,

the same ingredients. Those are the those 15 ingredients and you do you

do you do you get the you're to put to use to use to

you're like we just we're with onos or different

gran, semillas, noces or whatever right that I said Nueses to a

bolloeces to do you a bologna that's a thing you can't you're a whole lot of you know this

to your salsa to tomato with albaca or with oregano and you can't do things doing some

some changes but if we're we're we're in some way for the media

or for the industry to think that only I'm I'm impression how the

people is that what you comees just that just just just I'm

just I'm I mean I could come and I I could eat all the more than the other things that I'm going to come a vegan. You can't come a vegan

and start with very bad a salute. We know that there are gaitas and papas and mil things of food chatarra that are veganas and that's not

does say that you're going to flackard or that you're going to be is to if you're going to be able to put up or things fritas or things with too much of sugar or with things refined, arinas, asuccares, salis refinates, salis refinados, all that role, also, also, also, is, it's, it's, it's, it's, to eater, to consume a

I don't know the same food that I'm a food and not it's the same to be used

and the body not is designed to get used to do you know and it's designed to eat and eat only

the things that's not just not bring us and notrines less amount of amount of

amount of the other myth that's that's carisim is that's carisim arros

frioles a leanteas garbanzo you do you you're you're you're a restaurantterer

That's that's that's definitely no although there's even more that's that's more

that's not not the India not of the india, a hositaque an acid X, or so things

that is that they're costs but if you put to be to be the basic is much more

more more than so you mean you're so you mean you so you have so you

don't because you payorrentas insurance infonavits affores and all those

things that that any restaurant will not don't bend alcohol that also is

other income so it's like I can give a way to give you my food my food is

pretty much especially if you're not as well it's very the indes car but also the salmon is car

I'm so I'm when was carnivorito I never never had ever ever ever or something

or something or something a case food traditional not is very so anything

so okay so so so so so can't so so so and the

lactose, you know, not you limit, no, there's a little bit of a little bit of a or cheese or crevas. For nothing. For the matter. For the matter. All the, you can substitute. Well, passes a good, a good list of what you want. Marcelita, the time's end up.

But something that has I asked, but something that you've asked, or that you want to adder, to the theme of the lactoes. I want to add the time of cancer ovario, because all the world about cancer of mama and cancer of prostate, but the cancer

of ovario also has a incident. And we have a study marvellouso that says that with a single vase of leech that the woman consume per day, they're an 73% the risk of

cancer of ovario. And just right I'm still right me's still recording of a patient that has a cancer of varyo metastasic from here of Monterey, she's going to Houston to the

best hospitals. She said, Marce, I know, I see that, I'm saying, to the diet, that's doing a base of plants,

and go to, no, no, your diet no, no, there's no, there's metabolical demonstrated for the diet,

no? So, to bring the eyes, no? There's tantisima disinformation, and if your medical no

know it, putte you to do, you to do, you, to do the lactose, put to do this

recetters, if what you do you want, you know, he's said, there, there, a world, there's a world,

there perfect. One, one, there's, there Leche of cabres more more than the

than the leech of the black. Just before before I'm talking about

a doctorate and me says Marce there's a there's there's the of the back but what

you say is the of the of the and the of the so we could we

don't we're that the proteins of certain animals we can let's

let's the what? The proteins is a thing? How can't

all the other how quitas the lactosa how quits the

hormones, how you know, you're doing a bobeja and no is an

human, no, we don't we're a genetic like you. So, no there's

no way, no way they'd supervvency like if there were other pharmaco

in the world that you could be able but we're much

more more things to do you get to when I know my hair

I'm my more if I'm more so I'm so I'm

I abstain go to take to take to take to that this animalito. A los two, much much more thanks. Of all the

we're going to make on Mark Antononorogh com, Diagonal, recetas the recipes of Jorge Gomez Matuk of Talley veganico,

and obviously Jorge, record us where is your restaurant, where they can see to to come to

eat to come delicious in Monterey. Sure that see. Look, those I'm in Tayer Beganico,

we're in the Coloianna Tampiquito. The CLEA Cases, Numer 141219. 19. If you're 419.

No, no, it's 419. And we have another new in the market Cordillera. Also, here, is there in Santa Catarina. And there's, that's, we can't find in Instagram

as a dayer veganic and tahrir veganic cordillera. And I'm also another mark that's called Arab, with U.D. vegano, that is food, that, you know?

No, me said that you that you were saying? No. No. Yeah, we've, yeah, we've,

It's pure service of domicilio or to or to give. It's pure food Arab based on plants. Because you have origin,

the family of my name is Libanese so there so there's so that I see that all these recipes.

Okay. Arab with V. Arab with V of V of vegano and well, there can

give us of the things that we're going to provide. We're we're all in the

episode for those we're on the Spotify, Apple podcast Amazon Music, etc.

And obviously, in YouTube they're appearing all. And also we know how we the notes of the episode. And to the

doctora Marcella Sandoval, where we we found out of especially in Instagram is DRA, the doctora

DRA.m. And there they're not a league that they they're going to get to my

league of consults, but also I've been many different different where we're different

more about the mitos and realities of this type of alimentation, am sure more

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