El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 264 - Resiliencia: Cómo ser fuerte emocionalmente - Loretta Valle y Shulamit

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

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I'm from a story also very difficult of other type of violence, I'm sequestered. When I mean they said, put a price to your

life, the first thing is, my life no has a price. The transformation can be a lot of

transformation is a sport of valiant, not anyone he enter to take responsibility. The reality

is a thing with a thing, with what you say to you myself. No,

there's the reality. What you you can't of your life, that's, of a form

extrana, but it's more comodoo for the mind than to be able to get us in the victim.

Because when you start in you, then you don't create in the other. Our history

at the maybe, we know, we can't a lot of but never we condemn.

We're always be authors of the history that we want us for our life.

There are things that the people we're we're that never

not not sucedan. For example, the violence, especially in the

family or a sequestro. But if you get to pass that or any other episode difficult in your life, where it seems that all of the can't be able, how

we want to get us, how to have this famous power, the resilience. What is the resiliency? How is the resiliency? How can you can't reconstructure? You can't get. Well, Loretta Valle, that just was with us in the past, and us

told her story, well, accompanied of Shulamit Graber, who He also a episode very strong in his life. The two are women intelligent,

fertes, and with vulnerability. And with much love, we're parted how they reconstructed them after the

episodes very, very, very durus in your life, for that we can learn to learn to learn a hotel,

grand fiesta America, and the city of are they're reserved. Conductora, escriter and conferencinge international, Loretta Valle, vivied a terrible story of violence

family. Atraped in a relation toxic, during 16 years naviged over the violence physical and psychological. Until that one day

decided to find the key of the life of a family, with more to 40 years of experience

clinical. Shulamit Graber has been a speciality in trauma and resilience. Impartte tarrors and

conferences and create firmly in the idea of that not is what you what you pass in the life, what you define,

but what you do you know what you do you know, Shulamit Graber and Loretta Valle

are in the podcast. We're here we're in the episode, that honestly was planned as a

only one one of your story, Loretta I said, this, this,

no, this, we don't, we can't much, that you guys shared this story,

the two parts of the history, the difficult, the difficult, and the

consagration. welcome again. Thank you. Thank you. A good. Well, and the second part of that

is a podcast now that's now that's now that's a second episode, because is obviously with our expert

Shulamit Graber to give us a more more than this. Much more. Thank you. A lot of both.

Yes. Thank you. Thank you. You're sitting in first line, listening the story of Loretta.

The grand history. The grand history. The grand history. What you moved, you, you're like a therapist

professional, that has decided to dedicate your life to this, and I want to tell you to tell you what, what you sentista in your and what you thought at listening?

I felt that was listening a story in that I grew, and curiously, since I was the first of the story, and I said,

this story not will be there. I saw this part that you costed after you put it the

reflectors, I was, I started to know, your form of narrar her and your form of living it, me about

of a woman resilient. of, of course, I conmovio and I put in your

place, and I'm how much that it was to get to get to where you're to get,

in the really, in the world, I, I, I, that that that was,

I was going to get there. Me, me, it's very very much. And there many of

that's, is that. What is the difference between the resilience, that was a word

for you in a little one It's not so the model after less of 10 years

or more or less What is the difference between the resilience and the resistance not is the same.

No is the same. And I say, first with an arbor because it's the way

more easy to explain it. When you see those are those are the little bit and it

is a little, that is a old anddeble. That is a world resilient. When

you see those arboles robust and this is an arbor februity is a resistant. Because as

it's rigid until any that any the turbulence is it but those that have

the flexibility those are those are resilientes because because the resilience is the

capacity to get more fortleased of the adversity to recover

you have seen those rinkis resortitos yes well that

is the example of the fact is a word that used the psychology of the physical, that is the capacity of a body

to regresser to his form original. So, the slinky does that's so, you know, you know, but regress

to do, to get your resources and convert yourself in who you want to be after a thing,

adaptate, adaptate, and to and to get to your center, to do you, to do you to get to

where you? But even more more the, that is what is resilient, double, because it's recuperate more fortalecated of the adversity.

And I think that all the therapists that we're dedicamos to trauma and resilience, that is our objective final. No important the history that gets to us, but the objective is to be to intend to

this person the encounter a sense to the and the only form of encounter a for-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-sentied is convicting in a better version of

you-miss. What is your paraque today, Loretta? I think my parake definitively is the power to transmit it, to transformer and to talk to other lives. Definitely

that is my for because in, in some moment my parke was, I need to understand me, because I said,

I said to my psychologist, a bit, it's like if me put yourself a, a bit of a new,

let's make, no, I never had done classes of physics quantica, but if me

you trainas, then then then then you then you'll then I'll get to get a moment in

that I can't get to I'm going and I'm never and I devorable books and

me devoured things to understand me because I not just to change something. I'm

I'm going to transform what is the difference between change and transform that's

a one a grand question because when we're we're we're

we're an aspect of our life when we we're from us it's from

is this ser that emerge from from a new reality. And just I'm

kept thinking in, in what I identify with you, and I would like, just to

share this because this thing, me they're not in all, why not you're a therapist,

sexual? Because you're getting a question, to do you, the time of a trauma, in reality,

the population most important with the that I work is sequester, feminicide,

abuso, violence. And that's all the days. And I'd a little to share where came

my history. And the one with the question that you did, I mean, I'm going to a story

also very difficult, of other type of violence. I was sequestered a

after 15 years, a sequestro very very disaffortuned because it was an

error, they were going to be to be to be a car to that day. So in the moment that

me me sequestrated and they were and they were confonded their and that night me said it was a error but

I said, let me and I said go and I know, no, no, no no, it's done so that you just

you get here, gas of security, cellars, all, it's a much pain

that you have a life to be a but this is a question. And me made

a question my life, and me say, put a price to your life.

When me they're a point in a price to your life, the first that I'm

my life no has been and I'm and I think, I'm, if I'm

to answer that question, matame. No, I'm going to put a price of my

life. And then he said, the head of the band, I'm

I'm I'm but I want to do you do you do you do

you, I'm contest so. And so so It's all a

time where I took a violence emotional, no me did nothing physically

and when I was a psychologist I said, we're a time to have a

time, so why not you tell you who are? And I think,

what is the characteristic and I know I'm what more me define

as a therapist and I think the curiosity to me

the stories of my passionate. And for that I do I do with what

I'm every every way. Every I'm every every every

I'm to know how you get to you get to think of and then what you

do you so that so you did that that question that what needs a

sequestrator to do you started? And I started and you started

and then he's to start to respond? And he I'm to

ask a question and I'm question why you did

you know what was your response, never nobody in the

life, never never ever ever ever done and I've made to be to ask.

Me, me the question to a very disaffortunated. No justifies what

does. But a part of that I did what see, to have curiosity,

and I know in your story, much curiosity. A genuine

curiosity, although at the beginning was and I identified with you

like for out to be like, like for convert

to someone different. And I think that the last that time that I've had a lot of

that I'm a point important that I'm doing to make to be a therapist in some moment that he said

not cooperating your spouse no functioned not outside as well they're and then then I'm

to make to get with this episode and I need to try to someone to try to

this case and we just to the next victim this this is

a piece a pistol a carto cartoucho and in that moment that was sure that I could be made two questions

that I meaned, so, I'm going, so like a raffa, if it's the last minute of my life, what I felt for living? And if I'm going to be different? And there I promised to the second question, that

if I was alive and it was going to dedicate the rest of my days, to help to the people that live experiences traumatical to recoverer of them. And as I was alive and I was really

that's it's a that's a little that's not only I'm going to do you

go to be a way to a good that's a that's a that's a because I'm to find

an experience to have been in the place in the day that I'm not I'm

I'm I'm I'm a I'm a so I'm a

so I'm I'm I'm I'm a because I'm

because I work with a problem with my problem with a opportunity my life

is the before. Much I'm the people that I know I'm know

and I'm saying, I'm because what can be more more than you

do you can't be more that you can't be a limit in that you

know you're to when you when I see a front of me

no important the story that me no important

the story. I see the final. This person, if went to me, is sitting in front of me, will be resilient. It's my mission. So, I don't

work with the I'm not working. I'm re-significingingingar histories. Resignificingingstories. Because, finally, for that I go, that's what you pass, what you define. Of actually, I think only

that the 10% is what we're in the life. This woman, for what, for what, for what to talk more. The 90% is what you

do you do do you do this is a decision and that's a decision because to see we

don't know that much the word of many things that we can't be going to do that

but also but design and transform a history as you do you is a election

person you can you're you're so you're doing those

processer resignific and transform a history is responsibility of

who it live, of nobody more. And could you work in those steps to learn to

do you know so you're doing that you did you know, being a therapist, I'm going to a doctorpepte

and to be a telehealthia I think a companyment is important so. So, so how

we're going to do with that story? How I'm going to let go to to continue it's going

to a victim and from a place of a word of I'm really that Really, with me

there's people that come to stories, with a content emotional and a problem that when I'm when you

asked this tragedy, after 22 years, and you and the you're going that you

have been these 22 years. That's elaborar. We're to count her, but we

to accommodate that to come that's that's ready to be done even to

even that even that can be the same the same DOLOR. That's elaborar

and we processing. Processing is every when you you can't something, the mind

is like a carrette of a movie to see. Every every every

that you never the bad chiste that the therapy function a person

to be because if you assigns a space to talk to

you and you you can you you go

your bit your but now resignif that is

the I hear you. What I mean I do you? I'm a woman sequestered. I'm a woman that I live violence.

Much of people see a and I'm a lot much a phrase that says, nothing, and nobody

agotta your reality. You are more than what you did you do you're more than a woman

sequestered. Sure. I'm a mother of three nietos, mom of three three children,

this, a spouse professionalist. So, what does when we do you do you

did? It's so Firt that that is a form our identity.

I'm not true, no, you're in that's that you're that's, but in

a moment, you know, that you're that that woman that's that's

a woman that's a man, and you you'll you'll get to you're,

so that so that so that that's part that's that part that you

are more than what you're more than that's the part to resignific the

reality is a reality. With the reality, with what you do you say to you know, no exist

the reality. What you do you tell you that's, that's, what you're in the four

accords, no, that the reality is, so, so, what I say I'm going to say

I, that I'm that I'm going to be, I'm going, I'm going, that I'm a bit,

that's the day, to that day, to that day, that day, that day, that day, because,

and then those the desperanceada. Because, what you think? The life,

we're doing our life, in reality, not if the life is just or no, the life is incerted. So,

there's to find the for-ke. If I had to have been to have been there sequester

and have been there, for what? And I dedicated many years to my

to find the for what I've to have been to? For what? What? I had to

I'm to know? I'm, I'm not you can say, I conflictua

a little like your great masters because it was a limit in that I could not have

not been and it was a very difficult to survive while I'm still in the time. It's tremendous

the experience. So, it would say that I'd say that I'd like to say, but I would say,

I'd like I'd say that's a question. And that's a distinction very great. Very important.

It's a to appreciate the of the question that emerges the lesson and the version in the

in the version in that I'm in the right and every every time I'm a daughter I'm going to

get to get for this when I negotiate what is the thing the most that I

could have been over in the life I think yeah I'm yeah

it's yeah so so that's that is the part to resignific and

the part of transform well I don't have to explain because I have

here, here, I'm, you know, and I know, I'm the lot of the

idea of the because not the I'm the opportunity, that's, you're, in, in, in the where are all the people of

your life and all the things. How do you reacomodas today? Because you have to

have been past that people that is that was more far far. Yes. And people

that you think you think you are much more more more than definitely

so so. So, because we are we reorganizable our system

solar and we're really where is the people? Where is in the

situations that I have And today, I'm how I want to my

circle, my system solar? How I'm my sun,

that's in all my orbits and what what I do. And what

I want to do you did you did you, the transformation has to do that

kind of to me I want to how I'm how I'm that this

experience and this I do you do you there's a lot

of ways to do And, well, not everyone does, but, but a me do you

do a lot of, the transformation can be a lot of course, the transformation is a sport of valiantes.

So, no, any, he enter, to take responsibility, to go to get to get to get into,

a lot, to do a form extrana, but is more more, for the mind to be able to get us in the

victim. Muchissimo more, because then all, oh, you are the

woman that I'm Pover. Yes, I'm In our culture, more in our culture, that's like well seen,

that the moms we have to sacrifice, that the momas we have to give the life for the kids and quit us and quit us

and then when your kids decide that they don't want to be to get to your job? And so if you don't,

if you don't you know you don't have a identity, then then you're not nobody. So,

so for that is very very dolorous. And there many questions that we have questions

here I have some annoted, we're going flowing, but one of them, yeah, that's

talking to the thing is, why the victim, in your moment, not I'm

not I'm talking about the story of the person that's being victimized as,

as the was told Loretta and how it has talked to hear

in many stories similar because the victim tends

to feel because the person that is receiving the abuse

and the the person thinking that's the is the other person who is being aggressive.

Well, there are two vertientes in this. One is the terror psychological. I don't see if they were we're in these stories

of the war that they were saying, you're saying, you're you're making you're doing to

you're you're thinking that you did you're not a lot of movies and with a lot of

people of all the humanity. And a little what is a situation of violence is that

the terror psychological, the other has stability from the power and from the violence

of making that you're you're going to you're going to because apart is a lotura like you said no,

me asphyxia and me and I'd get it over and I'd get a moretone in the eye that

me were to see a that there's a testimony in my car no, that's this

part that you you're all the I'm I'm just I'm I'm

I'm I'm something to Be a instinct of supervivency I have I have

the instinct of supervience is the second partient because when we we're going to we're going to

a definition that's a mode so brevience that for us to imagineate that the

brainate that the cerebral classes of the remember, well, the is the that the

way to 250 kilos, is that my spouse, if my thinks, all this,

not she said in the expression, me came to the 20. After me my came to the

20. Because the brain, because the experience, it's a experience, and it's

in the mode soverevereverevere in the sense primitiva to survive and you

just after you, you're think. And if I provoked. And if I dipia that he, he not

so, he did I pee that he's this part and it's this part. There's there's a part very

very tricky that is the part culpigena of the society that we've that we say that the

not. That's that's not, that's not, that we're so we're that's two things,

for the mode over-ovency and for this part of the terror of these

people violent and with the power. And the and the is just a matter of, yeah,

parentices just for those who don't us know for those that's not, and they're that's

that they're that's the when it's the telephons antivos was a money of a money

that was you're in the money and sometimes if not it was not you

never to call the 20 like the like yeah yeah yeah yeah

yeah yeah yeah yeah I think I'm I'm trying. And it's

a little bit of exactly. Exactly. Pardon, you know, no, no, is that we're much in the comments

you're not, you're saying, you're saying, no, I know, yeah, I know, yeah, I know,

and the people, you know, the people, you know, because after the people, it's, and now,

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that I'm wanted to you know, I'm this thing you know also you also that's

also that he when he was that he was like me to be and so, and then so he'd

put in the tithe of the victim and he was a part of the know, so he'd

d'n't down to dopes against the and I'm saying, I'm malo, so I'm so my

you say, no, you're saying, you're going to get me to so it's a confusion between that you're the

culpable and then you're the question, and then I'm going to get in some,

in some manipulations terrible. The manipulation is an element important that you

do you to get to to live with him I don't want that's a poor. And,

more of that just the right, he's going to because I'm going to not going to him, I'm going to go to

help him. And also there's a other thing, like this idea of I going to say, it's

an idea, not more, because nobody no salve, we'll not we'll not us. Now,

when the victimario does that that's that's describing, is machiabelical, he's,

he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, has a training psychological and

know what is doing? No, no, never. No, never in this

training. There are two. There are many who are very trained to

do this type of violence. But there other that in their arrepentiment

instantan enloquesen. In a moment to be, they're to say, no,

no, how I'm doing this, how I'm doing this, but it's a a new

a new thing we're a lot of a lot of people and the violence is a

violence is a yeah and In this case, Shulamit, well, my psychologist me said that is a psychopate integrated, no?

Yes. It's a maligno. So, so... I'd say. Yes, yes, it is. I'll do a question.

Sure, or those what you want? Shulamit, how would you explain to the people, because many people we're not,

we're going to connect the reason with the heart when you're in a situation like. Because you can't say to do my

many ways, but it costs much a lot of work to give that pass?

A very, there's a disociation between what is the reason, the intellect

and the emotion, that has to be with the self-evency, that is part of

what I said, and it needs to a time considerable that that you

that you can be that the people, because the force came to not

feel, and it is a logic. Of the the force. This

part of the locura, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm compared to with the sense of the thing that I think of what I

agree to to the things that I think, I'm afraid to ask, and I thought, how I tried,

much people me had asked, and it was this law over living, for never for negotiating,

my liberty. And much of the things that you did I try I'm so,

I'm doing this and I'm going, I'm going, and I'm going to go to and I'm

to show, and me to show, let's let's say logical. when when when it's

this this impate when you're when you're there's there is when you're

when you're you're so much you're that you're you're you're it's a

thing a thing that we this is this thing to this thing to be

to have it has it's it's and I I'm I would

I would I think those that so is fundamental to ask you because to these conclusions in that moment

a no year. You're in the middle of the torment, no you're in the end of the hurricane and you're in the you're not you can't

see with clarity and there's where one the time of the time of there's a so, between

all only only between women, no, between everyone between everyone,

but I think we don't we don't we don't we don't we don't we don't we don't decimed the fact

of what we we've been It's a verguenza. It seems to be a verygonsant to share stories of a lot.

In a mess you have to share the exit, you have to do you do it. Because when

these stories are they're many people get a lot of people and what you're to tell us stories.

And so is to be true. The fear is obviously for the juice. The

what they're not, because then exactly they're going to say that's you're a

tont that you know you know, that's there, because you but

they're in not really how you emotionally and how the autoestiming the autoestim it's totally

completely qubrantada. So, imagine just to go to to the super, for example,

and not know what to buy. Because if no, there's a market that you love to

your person, you know, you know, you're going to you're so you're like,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

what you're going to do, all what you going to say, and all what you're going to go to get to knowh for something that

you're going to you're going, and then you get the restigant. And there's the reventure, you're not not really you're

a good husband because not you didn't try the leach the way to try the right you can't

you're so you're so you're so you're too you're so this autoestime. And every

bit you feel more more devil and every you're more with decisions that simple

like that's and that's the terror, the terror psychological of that the other you're going to you're

right, no I'm not I'm not trying the that's the only that me said. It's the

and it will be the and it's a circle of it's a circle of but this of this

this of this. I'm a need to do have to do have to have to talk our

stories. And to do you do you do it's the contrary to to

empathy and it has a a reason in much people. That's to tell your story for

that other we can't learn to learn we're going to listen to us and we know, we comevien with the

family, with the family, with the people, with the people, in the ability, is one of those

abilities, that's the empathy and that's other things, it's other is that you, the empathy is putt in

the other. not think that you're going to not think what you've been done you not you're going to be able to

not to give it's put you know and from your and from what the other lived you and that's

compassion also if you want to say compassion and not is right no no no no no

no no oh oh oh the compassion no no the compassion no no the compassion is precisely

this part like this part like if the energy emotional is emphatic and you you put

in the the other of what he's not only of what he is the kind of

it's like two levels I'm doing and I'm talking and me still putting in an impact

emotional that's the compassion and lastima not is the no is the not it

is a lastime you're oh poor poor porsito that that's

my lastima no and compassion is what experience this this woman what thing. I'm

I'm in your zapatos viviened with her and if you help you're very different

to help for lastime that's definitive and help and help and help you and then

that's and I'm I'm me explained and I understand that the help you

they're and it's one of and when rescatas so are much times and again

to do not even they're you can't you get the power to the other

person rescatant. So, I think it's very important to know what what's.

And we'll do the same for what I'm doing, if I'm asking, or not, listening,

with the curiosity, asking questions and when I do, if I do do the compassion,

not from the lastime, I can even help with admiration. With definitive. No,

I'm, I'm not. I'm not. I'm I'm not, I'm sure that you're doing,

you've got the life. And you're trying to to get to look at and that's the I'm sure. And from that's the more useful to say,

oh, poor little bit of the boy, I'm, I'm going to save. That's really nobody you said,

I just so much what you said about the about the life. But no, no,

a tribute. The people about the felicity. This is a good, this is, like if

nacierramus or not nascar- it's a conquest. And it's individual. No

you does happy nobody, and you you do you ask a nobody. I'm

so it you're to do you do you do you know, I'm in the episode

because that is the veraddera because that is the liberty. The liberty and so me go to

that is autonomy economic. I don't need to nobody. I'm free and

I'm with who I'm is something is something is something because I am

I'm a an anaranger complete. No, I want the media this idea this idea.

Busk someone with who run together who they're making a complete and me kept

thinking that you you've this a part of this because the abundance, not from

the the difference. The is, totally. And it's very distinct.

When we're we're a person and that's the liberty and that

when we look us from you are someone you're in abundance

there you can't when you when you're in when you're in you're doing you're looking that's being in

you're looking or complete and you not you're doing nobody that you're rescinding and that's simply I'm very okay you too

you're trying people when you're when you're so you're so that's incomplete and that's the that's the chaos no I'm

I'm completely this is an disaster a guarantee guarantee Right. Exactly. Oh,

because I try to you give, but then we we're going to we're going to and then we don't know what we're going to

because it's impossible. No, and I'm going to because if I'm going to come to do you, I'm going to like a carger automatic

to see? And I'm you take to you? And then we we're just both. And as we're

not to do you're all to don't know to say you don't know. And so I'm

me complemento my media naranha no. No. No, no, no, no,

no, No, no, for favor, no. And figgate that me is record the importance of a trauma

because if you you don't work as a experience traumatic with the exelencing of this woman,

that I'm a doctor to the sombrero, is a job of a job of a

completeito, yeah. If not you do your destiny is to find out of the carencia because

in this is someone that's someone you're victim, because someone poor-o- I've lived

something and I I want to want to I'm a papacha and me of a temperate and me of the little, not

of great. And that's that's, that I'm compensed, no? That's, and I, and I,

I wanted my not, but of quality of exportation. That's all. Juicata. Completa.

Quality of exportation. And so, it was like it's, no? So, I said,

it's good naranjad with him? Magnosososos. Mariguesan. Marangas. Vierananan. Viererer the

Marangas that are. If they were. And No, man. That's the good.

Yeah, we we know. After me saw the sonrised. Yeah. About of the

positive, one of of the questions, is what can be a woman? No, that was the question with that we

asked, you know, that's from your point of Shulamit, what can be a woman that

still still still a complete? Because it's part of the process. Yeah. It's not

you're not. To start. You're they've done you've seen, it's what you did you, you're

in the religion, in your in the noveles, well, obviously we're

not doing us incompletes. So, what can be a woman? Definitely.

The first is not to know that. But you say, culturally, not they

have done have to have the creencies. We're a

pyramid. As a I'm a think, in what I think, I'm going to think,

and I'm to be to be to do the life more important

is because that is our mark of reference so I'm what I'm going to be the question to your creencies

for what you think you're in what you're going to get a time in the life that you have you have to generate

the creencers that no you're going you're that you are you and that one of the

one of the one of the one of the things that's that's that's asking

for you are curious being so you're so that I'm that something

that someone has to because if not it's from from the curiosity and from from from your own

you're going to you've been to repeat those patterns that's heard and I've seen now

now unfortunately and I do you do you do a lot of the

people that I'm the people change a time the life that

I'm that we're that we're to come we're we

we're we we're that I'm that I'm different of my

life but are these stories the things that's that I

transform and I'm there's more stories that they're to be going to

get to but it's optional I'm not I'm I'm doing that I know that I'm going to

I'm to learn I'm no perem no let me mehom better me

better go tooperating better go to yeah better I'm better I'm

I'm so sure that's sure that is optional but but ohal

there would have more that think they're like they've said, but there's like, maybe they're saying, you know, I'm going to

more battle. Yeah. But that's that they're not in the end up exactly. Exactly.

The other is that they have been and for so they're they're because something.

Because something, I'm not, I'm sure, I'm quite the first part I did to do to put

to transform was to transform my creencers because I did, a bit, if it

is certain that I have to get to get casted after the death

me separate, a that I'm a person. And then another creenance that I

have I'm that I'm that's, I'm, there's, there are many there's many people,

and it's certain that's of a very because they don't see a good man, or,

I'm a good to do you, have to realize these creencers, and if you're because the creency, it's

still being there. No, the desenraised to power and modify and start replying patterns.

No, no, you know, changed nothing more of, or you know, you know, but no

you transformed, you know, so you're not sanast the codependency. So, you know, you know,

you're doing the same, and with the other extreme. Or you're going, or you're going to other extreme, no?

So, because at the more, I'd have been with a maltratator and that's, and then

you get a little a manita, no, a minute a momita, that then you

have to be the mom of that child. Well, of that's a man that says this sir,

but that's, you know, you're going, you're going and the first pair that I've took after,

no, because in 19 years I had been three pairs, and I did it, and I'm

so I'm, and so I'm, the first I know, I'm, I'm, but I

know, but I did quite a, I'm, I'm But, I mean, I said, I repeated the same pattern,

and the second me got a little to get a manita, that I was to put up to go, and I'm really a little

with me, I'd be a much and all you want to you want. But I was like your mom.

So, until that no repere all what I had to repair all the I was, I'm able

to make to my larange of exportation. But, is saying, the more sadio,

de sabio and important for those us are listening. The

people repeat the same stories. One and other other time.

You know know, I'm a day of my consultor and I'm going to be the people

the same story. Yeah, the party to work to me, they're going to the second

and it's the same but you know? But you know, because not is to be

because it's you, and why not in the third? And what you're

you? You know how How many generations are to turn to for that so they're

repetitions that's not a lot of the same and that's science, because the psychology has

made more science of what we're five generations. What? I've I've worked

with menores infractors in an investigation in this time of violence

that we got us just that they're not more they're for this investigation.

Hix of people who said, never, never, children of sequestrators, of the

malachshores, never I'm going to do that's, I'm doing this. They're doing the same. Five generations.

Five generations. Erredamos. Erredamos creencers. For that's what you're saying is very important. It's erredamos creensias

that we don't we're able to wealthat. We're liable to our creences. That is a time

to, for what we're we're we're repetim for loyalty. You know, you know,

you know, you're that's a lot of the humanity for lealtat so you've been made to pro-mogenituras. The lealted

is tremendous. We're lialal to our progenitors. And we're perpetuando patrons until that

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are very romantic and I don't see if it's, if it's meditated in the traditions that they tend to romanticize. So, for example,

Mexico, that is a place, a beautiful, Colombia, Ecuador, we all have our

different, but we're much the thing of Mexico and the things. And you

put in the commercials. Not a mentira. Because in Mexico, there are many traditions that no no serve for nothing, in Colombia, and Ecuador and in Guatemala,

that no no serve or in the States. But we're in the idea of that we're not our traditions. And, and in a way, if you live

those traditions, you're Mexican, no. And so I put because so it's in the commercials. Well, you see in the,

those spectaculars and traditions, traditions, traditions. I always say, my compromise no is with the

tradition. My compromise is with my transformation. Definitely. And that is one of the enganyos more of the part of romanticize,

no, your pertinence to something. Yes. Because so you accept and you know you're not to feel you

have been excluded. Yes, so are our traditions. So in the people, the day of the virgin, I know,

so that's that they're getting corretteando and torturing animals because is the the fiesta of the patron

and it's a thing cruel and violent? Ah, no. But it's our tradition. And so what?

A Colpear Mugres has been a tradition Ser infieles has been a tradition And ancestral

And it And it And it's And it's The corruption is A tradition Sure So that

Because no trance No Ah, those Ditches Yes Those Dichos That's So, all

Everyone those And really We're always We're We're We're We're

We're We're We're To make To make And then In the Cauts

house, creating children is a child. Totally. Another the creencia

of the question is, is no nobody if you know I'm not I'm not not I'm

know what I'm not because you started being a little what you did you do you

did you pulliste and you pulliste and you put up all the resources

that you see I'm like like I'm like so

I'm I'm not I'm no I'm that I'm

that I heard that you heard and then the so the zapat, the souffle dech, charron. I mean, all do you know, so incredible,

incredible. And still have you studied. No, that's not. No, I've seen. And what you and what you're

and what you're , so you're that you're doing what you studied, but no, I don't see the highlight of your story. The highlight

of your story is in the resources that you got asked of this woman resilient. I those I'm in the maletta of

Meripopmus, not in the titles. And is that you you know, I never had

valored that I had done a mess and that's I'm not a because,

because for me it was normal, no? For me to put a one of a mess spectacular

and do that and do that's all I never studied for chef but for me it was like

that so we we're all we're not sure. No, it's not you

don't you don't let the crency no you're not you're not you because no

you've studied it was not no, you're no, that's grandiosity

Not what It was what I'm saying Until the To get a lot To get a Mermado for this

Crencia And then I'm I've studied I'm too I've tutored But all of the Cretionsions Yeah

Exactly And so we're We're saying That's To go to School But not Not

Not all The person Have got to graduate To be Graduates To have Master

and not it's for all No, it is for all if I know people

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm much and

There are people that I'm also that I'm sure, but not that relation that if you know, not you're the no, the

most part of the grand entrepreneurs they're going to and they're now they're now. Now, if

I'm going to the doctor, I'm going to the school. And more if you're going to operate. And more

if you're my car, my account, I want to that you're a chemical,

the, I'm going to make you, I'm doing the question? The university is valiosisimus

but I don't terminate the school. No, I'm And I'm And I'm, and I'm And I'm,

It's a, It's a, The best, because apart it's accompanied of the Culpate. If not,

you did it, you're not culpable and you You're not I'm not studied. And I'm And I'm

it's, and I'm that you that's a phrase that I love much, that necessity

generate potential, until you you've had the necessity and now that's, I think

that's a question to another and you said, Vend, I'll, I'll,

the salo, the alas, and there's, and there you fortletesies as a woman, no? And that's

good you could you study after but the essence of your, of your transformation

comes in the necessity that you've been to be a part of a title. Because the father of

my son- because the father of my people like you were we're we're just you're

a tonta, you know you don't study. of actually he was a a university

here very prestigious of these this is this, could say what? The IPA

okay was to do a thing and me said that I'm saying that you know,

you know, you can't go to I need to find me to find out that and no, no

I'm not so I'm not so but you know no I'm A question, A woman, a woman who that says that's a woman,

is because really he has a fear to your potential. No? I, I imagine this type of saying, he's, he has been

to go to risk to go to an reunion of those and that's and that's, and that's, me, I'm right?

And it's, this thing, and it's, this thing, of that, that's, that's, that's,

because he a story, of a story of a woman that has in the house and I'm the

more, more, and so if the point he's a that you're going to what's going to what he's going to

with all the question, that's the that's the thing that's that's the super to buy the money to

do that I mean to I think like, well, well, I'm if I'm my,

but I'm not I'm a woman, I know, but I'm but I'm a little a woman

that was I'm I'm living a through my mom many things there's there's a

there's there there. And I'm what I think I'm studied, and I've studied and I've

read, that historically, has been a fear of the energy feminine. And that's historically,

government, religion, traditions, has been a complot, no I want to sound to be a

political, has been a plot, to put the patte on the energy femininina

systematically, by design, for design, for that the woman is quite reprimed. And it

is a many ways. It's manifest in many many other ways, and I think that's energy of the you

about is the sabidure emotional. The woman has a sabiduity emotional very aguda. And it's very curious because

that question I did get to study where can come this. And I'm a conclusion. The time of the

caverns. What was in that time? The woman recollecta amamantaba

to the food, about, told stories, multitask. What had to do the

man? The woman in silence had to look at the presa. Ser Abil, ganarly to get a

dejunct casar that person because it was the family. So the men,

not about until that they had to and then they were and then. And I

think the man was growing, not is a thing genetic, it's a condition

social. The man, the woman, the woman can't, the woman,

and in that to tell emotionally is he has been very able

think to the people, get the people, you know, yeah, that they're you know,

the woman yeah, I've been, and I'm about the 23 amygas, yeah, for that's

we've got abelis emotionally because we know our stories when we, to,

to, to opinar and we do all the time. But also have taken to do

because they've put so the paten on the if you if they're

doing to dominate to work physical, you have to find the form of to survive

and give the problem. But the man, for not platical, it has

been more emotionally. I'm very much more more more than this part

that you say, that you do you say, to be the things. Except those the

men we're three because there were very very, very

very asserted nobody me me Very acercato. For that's a chillon and platy-y-y-o. That sensibility, that sensibility, no, is that's very certain what you say.

That's what you're in there. Sure. Because when you see that that's normal, I mean, I didn't tell me in the house of anybody that said, that'd be sure of my emotions was bad, or that was all the days. I mean, I was a dramaticito in our

issue, but it was, but for that, for that can be so empathic, you have you know, because the empathy comes from there.

And, and many people who are you, I'm going to my wife, but to be how you do you know, because he

not a question. It's a keyha common. And for that not I'm talking of the energy feminine, that

also the that's present in the women, but there's a repression to the energy feminine.

So, so, to the fact, the, oh, I, obviously, I'm,

obviously, I'm, there's, but there people that you say, that if it's

it's has been proved so the intuition and the discovery and what you can't, what you can't,

what you can't, you're not no, no, no, it's a unso if if you're in those

so that still still putting the patency on the sacred energy feminine. Because it's

not. To me, no, but if those who are very machito yeah. It's

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like it's like

it was a sort of, it's like, it was a thing they're, because to go to the to the body of the world, to see, the energy, the natural of the other, that's, it's a

true, it's true, very, very, very assertive. And so, the, of what do we're doing this information? Because not is that we're doing, that we're doing, that's the way that's going to beaught of energy masculine, that's the sacred energy masculine, that's all the whole, the Yin Yang, well.

I think those who are you're to do you have to do the first that's a same way,

this sabia woman, me and what he correspond to him and in my case I'm going to say okay for that

there's problems it's required of two people what is my 50% of responsibility in this

for I'm to do so and then then modify and then modify and that is another something

something is a co-responsibility even even a co-dependency when you saw my responsibility

not is that the other is malo and I'm the poor but what is my in this story.

I, I'll I look at you. What is my 50% of responsibility? And even

you know you know you're going to that's a 50% of responsibility. Today, years

after you can't when you go to get to live? When you do you do you know, because

there's a part of you. Yeah. And then you're you're the resilience

is going to do the autoestim or the love that is very

important for what we're listening. The resilience is It's

It's All we have the capacity to be resilient It's like the same he's a

resilient and the other not it's not it's not really a lot of this is a very good news. So, it's

been used to the pandemic that there's a memory resilient what I mean in our disc do you

when we were resilient when we're resilientes of an episode difficult in an art of archivocytes

that the memory resilient than the memories of the And when you'll

to live another situation, difficult, that archive brot of immediate and you're much

more resilient. The resilience is a new much more more more than there. There's a

moment that we're resilient. So, it's a way the pain to be resilient.

So that's the same that when there's a memory muscular, when you go to

the gymnasio and you just, you you've still you've you know, you know,

but you're going to the gymnasium, the memory muscular, has that more rapid to gain muscle. Exactly the

example. And the same. And the same. And it's discovered in neurociencia, yeah scientifically. That's great.

So, so it was right in the pandemic that people that people that were other type of times,

other type of moments difficult, was much more resilient in this moment. And so started to do research

of neuroscience and today are still and then the resilience is a your own your

love is the security in your your emprendidora internal or an entrepreneur interno

so everything you have you're a master of you know, you're a more more we're condition

a lot of times but never no, never. Always we can be authors

of the history that we're for our life only only your mind

you can you can you can dictate sentencing there for that, for that's

much careful with our discussions what we're in what we're a lot of the thing we're

a time that we're a final of the first of this conversation, the time of the absence

of your kids, no, that you, we said with the eyes with you know,

they're, they sabotied the relationship, or this man, saboted the person, he was

the thing, and you, and you didn't do the reason, how can a

woman affront the or the absence of a child for any other that's a cause?

Well, what I see in your story is there's there's to be able the delos

and the peridas. At the long our life we we can we're to make a

many people and you think you you elaborated the duel you?

You you had to have to Today, they're a time of their

story, are a unrar to that mom that's not a story that's a

case, I'm my question, some day, we'll be we're going to I'm here, I think

that these kids need to do that more than what they're going to to get this moma. But there

to doleos unfortunately in the life to create, and I can do this dover you

dole, and I think you do you do dole? How's it's a When you elaborates a duel is honor,

I imagine your part of mom, to have those tried to this world, to give them, but give to you the permission to be free. In your case, I see that she

elaborated a duel is, when we're we're saying, you know, that's physical or for some a reason, they're,

they're, because peridas ambiguous? Because not, they're living. But they're not, they're living. and socially

not we've done value to these peridities that are the years. The peridates are the murders. And no.

At the long of the problem, we're to get a health emotional, and we have to dole of that that's that

we're not we're not more convienes is unrar. This is a form of laboring, unrar what

you've, what you've, what how I how I I'm having it and

and I'll let's let's and pardoner to give that's that's exactly what

I did so I know I'm I'm I'm my gift of my gift

me my I'm a I'm know I so I'll

the I'm the he had said he had said what did

what did what I did this what did it did it did the word no

I re-signify my story. And now I'm, because I'm because many people, many women, want to be mom, and they're not able to be moms. And I do you see amma. And I'm...

And I've... Exactly. And I lived 14 years with a little and precious that me left my coffre, Tesoro's full of memories magicas, and almost 18 years with a chabre, no? So, I have the record

of that child and of that chava, And I have my coffre Tesoro's that is over the magic and of the and that every that I want I can do,

it can't make to record that's a so, no? So, that's a baddition. That's the is elaboration.

And when we're getting yurraught, the people get of the burdened is, what you do you what you do you do you know

that story of that's anobuel of that father, of that's brother, of that what you're what you're that you

you're you're going to you and you you're going to be you're going to but we're

to know that the things when those know we're the coffer the house, have been

a man have had had been the opportunity to have these children, there's

a number to honor and to do you can't repeat that that phrase?

There's there have to have a number to these the perididies

that we have in us to the people that we're going that's what we're because then

they're never. In reality she sold those kids but never they've never because

she has the coffre when she want to that's that's elaborated and I'm and I'm

my my life of the life with all the pulcerita the

those arretes the medallettes the I'm with a joyero and I did

I want you want you you do you he did a yawr. And then

that is the key of my liberty and for that the day that I'm the I'm going to

I'm that I'm that's a name the day that I decided to because it was a

decision and the collier me said you don't so no so you can say you

I'm you know I'm you're not I'm a new that I'm a

question you and when you're when you you can't how you with

I'm in the other I'm the little of the chair of the so I'm the so I'm in my kids

there's all in the whole years and all the time I'm all the those questions that I'm

and I say all the what I'm what I'm want to a photographia of them and I'm going

when I want you want you and as you know never said never said never they're

never they're going to be and I and I'm so I'm so much I'm I'm

I'm a one thing if you because I'm I think I think in the Diocidences

and the universe and I think in all of this. I'm not the podcast the great marvilla

difference the television is that's that's that's for ever living in the internet

on YouTube and never you never know the algorithm that you can't appear to

someone to know if this video, if this podcast get in the algorithm

of your children and if you had to have done this episode and

Stubiering this until the final. And they were you and they're in this

moment? What are you there? There's, there's, I'm going to the camera. Now

is going to make me quiver, because... Well, it's that. All the life

I'm love. I mean, so, are my children, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, all in a ritual, that you know, in what play,

I, I, they've , I, I, and the cenicitas and put in the mar and those

I'm trying I'm trying and I'm and I'm spying because I have the illusion of that me spian

in redes they're very orgoyos of all what I've done to do this because I always have

always I've always the example of how if can and if it's can't get to the

barrotes mental of the violence of the abuse the money

not all in the life, many things not are all in the life.

What is more important in the life is that you're that you're not in you're

and that never they're that they're what they have to do you do that

you know, I'm that you maybe, that's the time you don't know, because

it's floating in front of you and that when you do you do you

do you decide be able and the doors are open

Yes, the Yeah, the of the of the course, and you know, and you know, and you know,

and you know, there's, there's a something that I think we need to know it, and are the

rituals. Yes. We have we have to rituals in the life to elaborate the

duels to your question and the rituals that you did of the life, of the

genisas, there are to do doels, when they want to give us their

Khamen the Crencies that not they're they're they're and write to

the people that are the people who go to the stums of their and they're a card

of what were for you, of what they're what they and that and those

and those rituals are the example most of the form to

that that that that's that very very very

very very I from the If the if the oration is effective, I'm

I'm going to I think all we're all right. A intention or what they want to give you, for that this history continue

and that this that's what you said, look, that the university of YouTube and the algorithms

us all over. And that they're going to get to be to the final and that the message and as

the message spiritual, that that that's that or something more for the

more salt, good, Tewo, and of them, of those involved, that so is. Amen, amen,

amen, amen. That so that's it. Because we know we're the good. But from my point of

view of the human, I go, I think that that's the best, but no I know. So, so, that

so that's it, that's all heart. Thank you, that's, so on the women, so much,

thank, thank you, thank you, thank you, for having us invited. Thank you. Thank you.

Ah, how beautiful. But, beautiful. Where do you can't even see, I'll be able to be

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