El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 295 - Una fuerte historia de lucha e injusticia - Olimpia Melo Cruz

Episode Date: November 6, 2023

60% de las mujeres en el mundo han sufrido algún tipo de ciberacoso. A partir de los 8 años, millones de mujeres sufren violencia en redes sociales. Esta semana llega al podcast una mujer cuyo nombre es sinónimo de lucha, defensa y protección de los derechos de las mujeres: ella es Olimpia Coral Melo, creadora e impulsora de la Ley Olimpia.Tu mente puede ayudarte a sanar emocionalmente, después de una gran adversidad. Descubre cómo en mi clase sin costo: https://marcoantonioregil.com/mente-podVe y comparte el episodio en video. Ve a: https://bit.ly/episodio295Cada semana en mi canal de Telegram, accede a contenido e invitaciones solo para fans. Únete en: marcoantonioregil.com/telegram¿Quieres llevar del podcast a tu vida lo que aprendiste esta semana? Descarga GRATIS nuestra revista digital. Da click en marcoantonioregil.com/aprendamos Sigue a Olimpia Coral Melo en:Instagram: @olimpia_coral_melo *Importante: Nuestros invitados son expertos en sus temas y reflejan su conocimiento y su punto de vista, siendo conscientes de que cada una de las opiniones es totalmente personal. La información, datos, comentarios, estadísticas que se presenten en el Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil, son de exclusiva responsabilidad de quienes las emiten y no representan, necesariamente, el pensamiento de Marco Antonio Regil o de la producción del podcast.

Fiesta in insurgents, Viaducto, Ciudad of Mexico, presenta. Leveron, my brother-in-a-old, I think, 14 years, with the cellar in the hand,

abentando the door, so, and there is, there's the pinche video that is my brother.

If it's real, and me they're just to sender to watch-sap. CRED to the victim's his first act

of justice. It's that Olympia, there 3% of denuncias false, that's not incumbes to us.

Our value our moral, our value moral, our value human is to create to the victims. We're not

we're notcists. We're notcissed as aggressors. We know, I remember the first legislator

me, I don't know much what you've been so you do you, but don't me pious

to me to me, I've done to be a reformer to valourer the puter was the

first that I that I heard? Yes, of a a legislator of a

legislator of a I entered to this Congress, I knew other women who came the door of the Congress. If we were the

women were the stories, I'm sure, I'm sure, that all those do we're not feminists. The 60% of

the women have been victims of some type of cyberaccos, and the reports, demuestrae that a part of

the eight years, millions of the world are victims of violence and causeo in social.

Today, us a company that has been recognized as one of the 100 people

more of the in the world. This is the story, the story that he inspired and she was a victim of this accost to convert his name in synonym of the luch, defense, and protection of the rights of the women.

This is the inspirator, history of Olympia Coralmelo, creator and impulsora of the Law Olympia, who now we know we know in this episode special, dedicated to the day of the woman.

We are at the Hotel Fiesta in insurgents in Viaducto, in Ciudad of Mexico, and we have, we have, as our students, to students and alumni of our courses in line to give the

welcome to our and we're going to learn because we're going to learn much today we're going to so we're going episode 2995 podcast of Mark

Antonio Regi is a production of RGL Entertainment and all his rights are reserved Olympia Coral Melo is activist feminist

known in the world entire by the Olympia that protect the victims of violence sexual digital was recognized as one of the

100 people more influential in 2021 for the Revista Time. The law that has

a lot of a lot of the number has been a lot of people who in all the world.

In 2003, it was approved also in the Congress of Argentina and it was

in the Congress of the Congress, and it is also the

Olympia Coral Melo is in the podcast. That applause that

that's the recognition that thank you for Olympi thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. It's, well, it's it's a time that we're going to invite you. Because all,

all, in the team, obviously, we're doing, you're doing, you're doing the story. Much of

thanks, Mark, and thanks to all, to all. Until where is the influence of the community of,

the whole thing, the law Olympia. Obviously, we're going to we're in Mexico,

but it's for many places of the world now. Yes, it's to approve the past

of 3 October, in the Congress of the National Argentina. Yes. You put a like

in your Instagram when you're celebrating. Yeah, you're going to you're in the Instagram. It's

already just talking in Ecuador, in Honduras, in Guatemala and I think still we're to confirm that

I'm in November. Marivouous. A little ever you you've imagined that because so is

the life not, we're not we're things that evidently we'd we'd be

things horrible, infiernors, moments where you said, why to me, in what moment, it's transformed in this like in a

movie for you, for your life? You got to imagine, in the moments more positive in the torment, you got to imagine, I'm going to

give to the world to this and this will be to convert in a bandera that will change the

legislation and the conversation in many of the world? You got to to soniard in your

moments more positive? No, I think I don't know I imagine I'm in I'm thinking

I'm like to make sure to make sure to make sure to make sure that's Guachinango Puebla in the Sierra

North of Puebla like like the first Retto was to understand that not was the that's the

first retort of when one you know it's a when one when one you know that you know that's a

kind of makes a a force interior that you say there's to say to all the world that is the

that's a good you know, like you know, that's people, you know, like you

think you have a vision of something, but you know, it's not, it was in that moment,

the, the way, we're going to go to go to go to go to Argentina,

but it was like, like, it's like, even when it was, for me,

it was in that moment, I'm think you was the piece of the Congress,

because it was, like, to get, and, again, and, I,

I'll and I get to say to all, look, you know, no, I mean, you know, that all the things were was all the time.

And yeah, no, I don't do you, because our voice in this moment, no, not, no, not,

yeah, it's the law, you know, did a law, you know, a law did a law of access.

So, then it was, more than a first type of justice institutional, it's like, it was like,

it was, it's like, it's, to, to be, to be able, to be to know,

or to say bribendas that not perhaps denunciate yeah because it had been in the

past before before but it was a kind of a kind of

for that we were that we're we're we're we're we're

we're right we we're a life of violence

also in the spaces digital so then No, says a great commercial

a lagarde not is the effort of a woman so far as me it's that we're very ad hoc

because it's like the love, the love, the love, the future of the law Olympia is the

is the juridical but not only the political, but not only the political and then now...

It's a change of culture. Yes. We want to change the code, Mark.

We need to change the code, we want we're changing the a race, we're going to

change the conditions in the ones we're we're in the same, we're we're not the spaces

digital. And, and the space digital is a, is a, is a reflection of

the life of the world of because you about this power that's the culp,

no? The culp in a system patriarchal of hundreds of

millions of years or millions of years of the world, where from our

origines is a system patriarchal that has reforceded a

way of the education traditional in the schools, of the media of communications, of the

religions, not all, but the majority of the religions, for the men's that

we know the other than the world, where it and it reforce and it's

for the women and for the woman is culpable. And that when it is your

thing, is your cause you so, so you just a of that episode with Alie, when we took us here, and with

grand tristesse, we're going to our friends social, the people that see this podcast and all, that much people said,

Alejandra, here in this space, they were saying, for what you to do, for what you, for you,

you're doing, you're just your , because it's your responsibility. And I said, no, it's in our

community. So, then what do you do, the other communities? Me, I'm explaining, it's people that at

the more, I know know what you imagineate I'm in this analogy, uh, a person

to make the in the delitos, no, for example, we're going to take example, the code

penal. In the code penal there are there's delitos and exist

delitos, and existen delitos and existen delitos for categories. If we we're going to

a category, for example, in the robo, no, in the category of the damage to

to your to your property, no, when they roban something and a person is robbed,

a person is assaulted, a person is dispojada of of their pertenances, what you do do you get to that person

to get a house, the first you is, you're wrong, you're doing? Well, no, you're not

you're going, you're doing, is to say, you're doing, you're doing, you're doing, you're not, you're doing,

you're not you're just for what I'm for a, for what I'm for what I'm for you, for my name

my name their own their stuff, but the first that's, but the thing we

the contention emotional to a person that's living a moment difficult and a evidence and of a deletionion

that's completely delineated. But if you how can't the things when they're sexuales.

Catalogo of delitos sexuales. Acos. Because is that for what you are you

are you are you are going to be used because that's even, you're

at this this hour of the time of you have the because, you're

a violation to be a intimidation to you let's grab for

you do you know, we're we're because of the first of the

first of the perceptions to the law, the insinuations and the

perceptions and the people are that when is a sexual because that's a

thing of gender, we can't continue argument and saying that all we

can't we're not, no, nor we're going to we're

going to a way out out of the and you and the

right Chattu in the side of the right to you, to do you are to cause

first? A who can get to us can assaults, us can get in

this America Latina is equal but in the country I'm you know they're

they're they're they're they're we're we're we're a kid

to get to be a person to do you a issue so you

all the conditions that they're that even in the things fiatty

when when it's sexual we're we're we're always Now,

today we see a a Olympia we're we're talking about the form in what you have been

you're being you're a person you're so that's so that's good, what's

and it and it and it and even it's it's incredible not we know we

we know we know our world we know Olympia the activist that this cyber

acos or this violence digital sexual digital but we know

the history that initiated the transformation to who you're so.

So with the only affand of the of the understand it and to

comprehend it a little more I'd you want to you want to how

started how it so I'm a wife of Teresa

I'm a niece of Olympia I'm titar a

nita of Leonila I Tataana Nita Pannita of

Vigal I'm Chinango, Puebla. There, I grewy. There, also me educated. With the novels of Televisa,

the Rosa of Guadupe and the maldita liceada. A lot of a population little? Yes,

in that moment 80,000 abitants. Ah, no, so 80,000 people. 80,000 of 80,000

but in a in a territory grand, no, extensive, in where there 38 communities indigenes,

Ablantes Nahuat. So, a person of a population very, very ample,

the conditions of disquality, the conditions of the conditions of the conditions of being, the conditions to be awayed from

their center, mark, for supposed, a culture different to the women that we're born, we've used,

or we've in the city, to the women, to live in the people. So, that when I

think this context, not, that also me, I'm because I had a

new new, and in this love romantic that they do you make to do the people, and not

you don't you're of the history is aspire to to the woman. And, and I mention it, because it's an antecedent important to know how you do you, a lot of things with pleasure, and not for a pleasure, not for complacent. And then, in that moment, I had a

a pair of these nobios, of those that, I, like, many, women, amas, confiabes, or sent you that you were, you, confiabes, or sent you guys that confiabas, also, I came to play, clear, that with other women, for the novi, and, sure, that I'm going to to call them

of all and I'm going to say, is that me the I'm going to do you.

And so I'm also all the that we was all of and we're

to be to be to be to be part important in our our

and our and our and all those constructions makes

that that does that not not not understand

our role in this life as not I'm know

but I'm nobio, that, I also I had a violence in the nobias with him,

but also know I don't know what you know, it's because it's like it not it's like

there's a there's a there's a violence physical, there's a time, there's like a violence physical, there was

a violence psychological, much violence psychological. And so that was it would like that the women

us are doing a favor while to be in a lot of the so, why? Why?

Because you're making create certain things. In that age, you know, 17 years, 17 years

when I'm and then when you're with him. And it's normal? Sure. So, that

he's even, you know, even if you're not, that's so those are the men,

not. Also, it's like, you're the family, the church, you know, you've got

a lot time, you have to have to continue. Because, because in to aspire to

to give a or the gift of to have children to have the first of the person who's

in a world where no we're in the world where the little

when we're when we're to recognize a leader or a person not was the first

president of our first minister or the first woman who gave to get in a

new new in a little bit in a way of the bay yanta to the

vulcanisano to me a vulcanis a woman semi-dnude in a calendar of the culture porn.

It was when I was a woman. So is how they're vilizan, so is how they're in a place in a

place in a good woman. And that's characteristics egemonics of beauty. But, but also,

as you put in a place in a place important. So all that type of things

I mention them because are important to talk to the violence sexual and to talk to the

violence digital that's she's a extension, obviously of this. So, then I was

that little that's a little little of the circumstances, that she's with all those their know, and with

those asses and with all those arraigues culturales, too. And then so, he said, we're going to have to

having relations sexual. He had been various years in the relationship? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and he said he said, they said, they'd say, they're about us, the truth

the truth is that there there's, I'm, I'm, to do a other, like much,

like much, the the intimate of the relationship, like I'm at the way of the he was a reason, no? He had to

his age, more than I. No, he was more than I. Six years. Six years. Yeah, yeah,

he was more than I'm more. So, well, he said, well, we're going to have a,

a, reality is that the first I was, I'm, I'm just a thing that I'm like me

would be to do, no, and I'm, and I, I don't, and it, I'm

and it a romanticization of this. And there's a lot of Olympia and there's a insure and go a lot of a point of a problem.

A lot of you have to cedar to what you're but it's like when you know you're a question about it's

an extension of what is a question of all right between all the public that we remember us

the first that we've our first first time the first time the first the first was in taboo

was in stigma was with education sexual we've been We've seen, well, if you have relations sexual today in the actuality,

romp the canons, romp the patrons of conservaturism, to say, do it for pleasure, not for conceiv, not for what we said the culture anterior,

we've done, the first time, if it was so, the grand response to the majority of the people is no. There are people who have said,

well, are children, young, teenagers, adolescents, that have been in education sexual,

in schools private and that's private, and that they've had a condition of advantage and other other people. And when we

did we do the general of the person's not, then if we pass them to the space online, it's a

exactly the same but now in the sexuality digital, the sexuality online. The difference is that here not only

only are two people, but here there's a third ojo, the companies, the industries, the platforms,

the platforms, and our telephones cell phones, or any other technology. So, with,

passing in this, to go, to make a little to why I mention it, because at final of the

day, this of to have relations sexual, is we'll a way to say, we'll be

a pleasure, or for pleasure. And the grand majority, desgracially, if we're starting to ask,

the people, in the data that there, for example, in Mexico, they're having women

when when they're those marries in the times, because, because you my,

my wife, my wife, I'm I'm my wife, I'm like Kempada in Gautenangu, that lamented

7 litre of the acid in the body and they came all for not serving a plate of aros. This is the scenario that we

don't we can't keep thinking but you did, but you did it? It was with a consentiment real,

autonomous, independent? There was a desire to start? Or it was because, look at

what was what was in my case, I'm don't know I'm sure, no I'm I do I do do, another

will do do you want to get to do you're going to get a right, the rivalry that us ensued

between women to be there to be there to be able to us and to be to belear to aspire to feel to

so then so there's conscientious or inconsient but there fear. The man no

no, no, there's no, there's a no, no, no,

no, no, independent. It was a decision took as as the grand

majority when we took the net, we're let's say

sinceros, we've done with this pressure, Tant of the men, in the masculinity hegemonical to do you,

for the way, for you to you do you do to do the those people, so there's, there's, there's,

there's, there's, there's, some things that are you think of the prepa, for example. So,

so this type of things also, also, they're, they're, in the relationships,

and I through the socialies, and I'm one of them to know, that's, that's,

that's, that's, that moment in the decision, is, it's, into

the world all this context, all this programation that's in your sub-consient everything,

all of the songs, in the novels, in the family, in the school,

all that's all that's all that's pressure to get to there. And then it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, there's the first argument to understand

that even, because, the women, not, the woman, not, because,

so, from, then, when he's, when he's we're going to grab us, he has to get this is the cellar, he took the cellar

in this way, he was so, of so, so, so, so, so, so, the, um, his car was the,

the, of the, the camera, no, and he, he, no, this video of a minute,

with 30 seconds, in that moment, so, so, so, it, so,

we, we're, he's, the, the fact, is that, it's like, like,

like, like, in what moment, all those tunkos that don't know, but that it's

grab a and I remember that it's not quite like instantane that's that's so it

was the time. I know in what was the that's the time was that's because I

metterer much after you was a man had said, oh, get you

there's there's a video of he's he did it he's he's in a

group of WhatsApp well I'm I'm not I'm just

he's he did it directly him but he I've got the responsibility

for what I'm going to talk, no, but at the end of the day, I'm not able to argument to

something. But, but is your responsibility. Obio, because he's with a person who has

been to have been to some time. I, when me enter this video, I had been had been

some of the other friends, oh, see what I, what I'm to say, and I'm even I'm

even I'm and I'm think, oh, see, I'm no, no, they're

they're still being being I think we'd And so, we're And so we're And so we're always He always

He always He always was like Like more Miser And so me I mean I provoked the actual of the

racialized with other Of course of the violence Of those that you put in that

In that they put in that Mors of Decision and then And then after that I was

I'm talking I said Oh, hey to get to look at let me look at And then no no

there's I'm just can't have some months, no there's a day that I'm in the day that

I'm going to see when one way, on Facebook just there was a page that for effects of the

endernerner was a page of a page of Pax and Nuts but I I'm I'm

I'm still, I'm, that not are pages of Pax or Nuts are markets of exploitation

sexual digital. So there there was a market of exploitation sexual

digital that was Rolalas Wau Chinang that I had 60,000 members

in a municipal with almost 80,000, 60,000 were a lot, almost the 100% of the society. There were people, there were people,

there were people, there were decino, there were families, there, I don't know that existed. I mean, I'm an

when I'm an booker in a publication that said, I had a a cabo. I was a caramusa

charra. My passion second are the animals, Now, I've got my critics about much Surrass and about all what happens

with the animals but in that moment I had a photo vestia of my vestia of scaramusa with my vestige with my vestigeo in the liensuchar

of Wochinango I had that photo of my photo of profile of the social, of Facebook and then

someone took that photo of the profile and subed to that market to exploitation sexual

digital and put the the next someone wants to want a really to

the 500 likes subed our video sexual. Hashtack Olympia the gourd

and gullibuena of Wauchinang so it was like it was over so far that they were so much

more expectative and not those got those five minutes in less of

one hour so my first my first real me to with the people

with your like, help you help me for you know and I

know I know I know I know I know I'm I and I've

I've seen friends and I've got to I'm friends I'm not I'm going to family and the same year

of the town of the people I mean I'm in the main part of the city of the people

always I'm a new very dispirta very active I'd I used I used socialers

in the Augustos to give I was I was I was I was a year of that

the young of that the little people that are I always, this, I wasti when I was a chiquita when I was a chickita to be a little, I was a little bit, and that nibella, and that was a little bit, was her, oh, Papa, that was I.

And, of a sudden, was, it was a woman known. So, for that's the expectation of, oh, wow, what, see, and I live here. Not only publiced the photographia, where do you, who are my papas, to what they're dedica, what they're doing, what are their social, to, what studied, what he did, and how in that moment, so they're junted the like, suben for the first time the video, because they were on and they're back them, subed for the first

time the video. And then, as, as, as, the person, the man with the one of the the the only was, so much, the second juicio social was, he, he, he's, who is the type, who, they're, they're, they're, they're, like, when you go to the car, and you go to

go to the car, and you go to the car. Oh, wow, no, I'm with Juanita and I'm going to Laurenna. Ah, they're going to Juan and I go with Lorraine and go on solas. Get to your manito for that your manito for that you're

always. We need to be a person to be accompanied, to be sure, to be sure, to be and so then in that moment I had I

the image of the man, for so I always I'm going to it was the first social that I was the first

the first with all the world, me accosted with all the world, me accosted if I'm

if I'm if I'm here, If I was here, surely like, well, me invented many things that were

people who didn't even me know I'm and then thence, then you're reading all those messages.

It was a terror psychological that inunds your body, that inunds your and that

you'd say, is that is that is I'm not, I'm not, the first I'm

never that never, I'm my family no said and no I'm so it

is to viral this video and it's to be more, more ample

with each person, not with the origin, but with a person who he was done, and then a series of

compilis copartes and pisipartis to get to other spaces to make those spaces of sexual that we call them

Porno, like Pornho, like X videos, like all those that are all this, I know, I know,

I'm going to tell, that I'm that I'm in 14 Porno of 14 countries different.

I, so is my account that I did you. because then it was to do this

cellular cancerigena digital and it's not you start. Not you're more than

for the algorithm a little a little that could be violated with every like a

like I do you and a time every every all the people

even even even to talk to even even

even to get your physical to that to

to get to, to intrasse in you, and not could you defendants. Never I read a single commentary that said, that's a delet. Never I read a single commentary that said, Oye, and the aggressor, because he was up-you-law, he's even a name of aggressor. It's the valiant that he was due. Oh, like, chido, for what he did?

For puttta, for sorra, for mala, for what, for what's to be aggravate? If, quen it, si, awokely. With this double discourse of more moral, because, for one, when, when, when, when, when, when, us hypersexualize, there is it is it's a

very that we're in the question, kemela for your body desnude. You have this circumstances

grave in which we're always in those people so I don't know it and passed a time I was dormia and me

was up with that sensation of those who are who are who are listening to I'm sure

that the people who are you know it's like to explain it physically you

doormes with a sensation with with a in the almodas in the hand in the

time, but with a sensation of all the time that you get in the right that's I'm talking about, and that's

the first thing is, grab the computer to be how much like the and see how they've done, a bit of

and then how much you know, every day is growing more, every day you're going

you're going more little, every day you're getting more more your value and you're

getting more you're the putt, the mala, the culpable, the the body isnudo, the gourd and good gushinango, no, and then

that's all right, you collapse the mind, you viola your mobility, I'm, I'm going to go to the school, I'm, I'm going to go to the tent, I'm going to go to the end, no, no, I

didn't say, my mom, creed that I was, just to be able to end up, you, I'm, just to be the no, with the noviour, I said, so, that's, you know,

do the right of internet, you want to keep to all your the social and you're going to get to get to the

other you know you're in that you're a little it's a moment, it's like if

you're in a quarter and all the person and it's not you're going to you know

and it and also your personality to your identity, I would have been

to have had been a real to have a car of the face of a

person and I'm constantly in many interviews because because that you

want to you disappear, you that that someone to take

to take to to transport to another world where nobody you know

where no you have that you know you have this name, you have this your body, not you're you're other person

completely different. You know, We're not doing relationships sexual, I have the cause. So I assumed that because I'm completely and it was just what

me to me to my, to my, to my, to be the three intent to do you, and then there no, there was

a way to continue to come to my life. I'm not in the life, that I'm

that's just going to be sitting in front of the person of that I saw,

I was, I was a rote that was a rote my friend, and say,

Baskos-Marcoondi and you're going to to ask, 100 things that are of the law Olympia. I know, you know, and it's culpable. So, then we're

bringing to do that. And we'd beaminging of that. And we'd beamed, just for that, you know, even, you know, yeah, about this and you know,

many other things, but no, no, it's, no, it's, that was a process in the world not had to have been to have been

so, not I had had to have lived so. And, And, unfortunately, after that

moment, I don't know absolutely nothing, I want to disappear me, I'd

want to give to this video, I'm going to find out of all the whole to all

to get to my family. I've had been at least two intents of suicide.

The last was when I'm when I didesth to lucid a little

to get to say, well, what is what is what is what is what is

what I'm I was looking in internet, what was what was going to. The Revenge Parle. No. Porno, vengeance. This is an argument isolated. In States, this violence they put porno vengeance.

In States, today, many of our aggressors that denunciations, that are, for example, in the States or the servitors that are in the United, no no, they're not, they're the proofs or not us do not the custody of the investigations, because

us argumenting that that is porn or vengeance. Porn no-venganza, it's an act of pornor, to venger's of your partner, and that then, with basis to, and to be sex-in mutually, she venged, and subed a video. It's pornography of vengeance. When I read that, I don't me felt identified.

It was like the first thing to the one that I rebelled. So I said, I was like, for a vengeance. no, no, no, no, no, no, is porno. I mean, now I'm even the porno comes to a industry causificator,

an industry violent, but in that moment I said, but is that I know it's that, no, I don't mean, I said, I don't think

that's up a man, the of having loved, of having confiated in him, to have lived my

sexuality, of not having had had been education sexual, digital, why,

why he's going to me? I, so, because I, because I did I,

why I did I bad for that they've been going to me. It was

like the first lucidess that I've had without the

argumentation, now the I'm going to I'm going to I'm remember

that I'm a little that's one of the critics great that I have to

do that all the people, we've not know we don't know

we're not we're not a process jurid should be part

of our education primary the, the to know of our, of our forms,

also there's there's a little bit of a little, I'm ingenua with me. I'm sorry. Your family

you had entered? No. There's a no, no. I know. No, no.

I wanted to put a denuncia to be to be to do it, to get it, to block it.

With the illusion of the fire. Yes, I, for that for that

for that for that we're going to the people to put the people to

say, we're alone, and the violence of gender, we're with the

idea, I'm going to think this is violence and I'm that's I'm not not quite

the law to know the life and know that's a Wauchinna in Wauchinne in Wauchin

I was I'm a school in front of a school a local a little a partita

that that you can't you can't you know I'm I'm

there were various or various offices me sitan and of and of a

question to the minister public to do you know men or women, all men, all are men not men,

no there were women, no there were men I'm sitting in front of that mecita and I said, sir,

I'm going to put a denuncia, and I said so that I'm like, I'm, and the

first that me said and the first of what you did you do you, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm the video. I'm so ingenue, a chiquel, I'll take my telephone and cellular.

And I go, yes, I do. So, I'm a lot of he's a little he makes, he says,

he's, I think I think I, I think I I'm, I'm a sitting in that in that in a

in a signita and he says, well, is the problem of the delito. But I just said

that they were being but I said, no I'm don't other option, are the

only who can help me, I don't have other options. That is the authority, this is the government, this is the

that's the that's the that's the supposedly, me defiant. So I was I'm gached in the case,

and they were when they were when they were, when they did, I remember much that he's a car of, um,

me it was he was going to send a cellar and me he said, and me said, and he he was,

he was, I'm looking being concerned and he said, no? Abuso of you? You're abused? You're

Gorracha, drug, alcoholica. And I said, but all this was going to process my head. And now, when I was to give over

to give a courage. And I said, well, he abused of you, no, it took to

you know, I'm trying no, no, so I'm putting more nervous over that I'm

no, he's, how many years you I'm, I'm, I'm, no,

I'm, and I'm, oh, no, and I and me he makes, and me

the Code of Defense Social of the State of Puebla and Code Penal and other was the Constitution Political in Mexico those Ogea and he said in this libretto

when you say in this librito what you what you is violence I mean you do you do something

when some of those two libritos me do you but you're a major of age if you

were a little the delit is a pornography the context you can have to be all the sexuales all you have to

to be, to be, to even a minor with fines sexual, all is pornography. If you are,

you're just a victim in the house, the child, the delito no,

that's the violence, the sexual leo-lii and the delito is pornography

and and it is a major of the age, no there's

no, there's put to the person, you're the person,

you're the that's the situation, me question, you're minor reality. I said, no, when in these librettos, I mean, me get to say that what you

pass is delito. But when it was took the video, if you were a little of age? No, when it was made, I think it had had already, yeah, it was 18. Okay, so, so, so, yeah. So, so, so, yeah, so, yeah, so, yeah, so, so, yeah, so, so, yeah, so, , well, I, yeah, when I did this, when I mean me did here I can do something. So,

then the phrase and say, no, me, bet to your house to get to be to do you

get to do you, I'm doing that day I'm out of that way, I'm

I'm camen, camy, camy, camy, in the in the the,

in the comminada to the two kilometers coming down I think more,

less, there, there, there, a point that's the other was that I,

I, I, took a crisis, and if I tried to venting I thought that interrupted that's a, he went for the nada,

a person in that I knew and I sat to and I sent to to die a and I was in my mind, and I said,

I don't know that person to give me and I said, well, but no you don't you go to be

to be a all over, it's a it's a violence or no you're not you're the culp

it's the it's like, you're like, you're like you, that was that was the

the paper that we had the victims of this violence before the law Olympia. It was, well, no, no,

you're here because I'm much. But you're to get you do you're doing. You're going to

get your dreams? You know, you know you're you're not going to be doing

your potential? If it's a possible that your dialogue internal, is saying, the

voice-a- in your case, I'm Marko-An- So, Mark, Antonio, Regil,

and I want to invite to try to that your mind you're to find to get to

to get to my metas. I've more of 35 years of the trajectory in the career of my

dreams and I have done to do you know, to make some of these people. Inscribetter

the Master class gratuit, discover if your mind is your friend or your

enemy. The three things to even you think you think you think you know,

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see in the class. And what What was it? In that moment, your family no said, had you

had acutored to the authority, you're desperated, you know I'm going to get to be this,

no I'm doing, what you're doing? What, what was going? I think I wanted definitely,

but the only thing, the, the, the, the, the, that I'm to think,

for the other occasions was the the dolor that would be a problem to my family.

It was so, I think that we've lived an episode of a violence

extreme to the degree of the no, you know, no, you know,

you know what is to do disappear, you want to you're going to happen an accident and that someone

to get a so, you do you deserous that. You desire that you, but if not you

tryves to do you to get to you to make you because still your uniques

that's that are for the power to your family or at least,

no, I don't if this is what I can share that I I felt

the because I don't get to do the the problem primarily

to my mom was like no I don't no I'm don't

I'm I'm to give my mom I'm saying I'm more

more more than it was more more yeah he was

he he was he he was when I when I know when I

don't then I'm I'm I'm not I'm a me I like much

a gadget like this that's a mummuth. I mean like a lot me also

I'm also like those mammots. And so I'm so I'm remember a equation that I want to the

the time, the time in the house, I see, you're going to get to the ventana

and it's literally in the time. And I remember that all they went to do you

know went to I didn't completely this limited my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my I lived only in my house.

I, after that moment, as I was, I saw nothing for me, decided to get me in casa, and I said, oh, yeah, here, yeah, that's why, I'm here, yeah, that's happened. So, I mean, I, I saw, I'm going to, and I, I, see, oh, is it open, in the tent.

I said, well, me put a suddair, me put a, um, a, um, a manse, and I'm going to, I'm going to make my time, if I go, I'm going to come up to house, so, yes, so, so, so I'm going to do, and then, I remember that I put the suhdera,

me put the pants, I'm going to the door in my house I can't see a fullanito of a tal that I'm

that's staccionate and he he's put in front of my portal of my and I said ohie, that's good

that you see, where you're in the media social all the people

all over to you all right in the cell of the in watching

Ango all all so all mundo so video. I was

I'm sure you. My son, I did three passes to and I would be back to get back.

So, after that I didn't go to not. I wanted to see my

my old and literally I had to get to the car

to get to my cochera my my abolita when you know

they was to be to know I'm I'm I'm

I'm the coach, me aghachia like, like a little like a like a man, I

remember much that I'm never a person who's to get a taxi, then I could get to be

to be a little about my 150 meters where I was so that was my

reality in that moment and just just about a institution my family a, no,

a domingo family to us we'd much on the Luchel Lever so I remember

that I remember that we for the Lucha Libre and the dominole of the dominole, and the day of the day of my mom,

we got all all, we're all all sitting at I'm all right and all right I'm devastated, I just went to get back,

I'd like, and I'd just want to get it that I was crying for the nobio and I just

me was just that's it was never got to my armatito I think I think 14 years

with the cell in the hand over the door and I'm having the There is the pinche video that is the pinche video that

there's real and we're just to send out of WhatsApp and then I'm and then I'm I'm going to my balance to the

camera and I said no, I'm I'm gonna my cellar and we're and we're gonna and we're to forceage

mutantly and see ma'amity, I'm gonna be it. I'm gonna'ammy, for 30 seconds and it starts to see, in the part superior of the right of

the camera so in the cabcerer and I don't I don't see if I'm so I can the cellular

he was the cellular and the and the last she said no it can't

be it I can't I'm just I think I put my man I'm my name on the telephone and

I'm sorry no beas I'm sorry I'm so I'm devastated with need this

culpable now I said I'm doing the bad to my family and I'm going to die and then I'm

aghache and I went on your knee my legche and I'm and I'm my mom pardoning me

my mom my prima pardoning me all right I'm that the video sexual if I'm

that I'm that I'm that you're that I'm the I'm sorry me to help me to me

me to me to my life I mean I'm no I'm no I'm that you'd

have the same or I'm a province. That's a not a serbo cultural of the

of the mergers of the world for me for me that's something

that's all that's me say mom, I'm to give me to get me to make me

to make me to make me to because if I'm my my people

and the people will be well but you know the contamination of the person so you

feel like the COVID 19 to Encerrater in your house, not was

the pandemic that me that was directly and that's not, and that's minimisar

for the thing that was, but the to get in your house for a

pandemic, today, the pandemic is that that we live we've that we've that's,

this misogina that's and that doesn't that's not a vaccunate with a

and so so, and then my mommy in this scenario, I always

imagine the scene that's at a point to you, that you know consented. I think this is your

papar, a point of to be a bisexual of your kids, of your kids, that no consensuals? And then my mommy, no, I'm to say all this

and I want to want to live, yeah, no want to live, yeah, no care, my mommy, a woman, obligated to do to get to

his 17 years to a, a child, I mean, I'm obligated to part- because in this world, the maternity

is so romanticized and the the bodies of the women are so sexualized as as a

reproductive that we're in the idea to the head to all the people, that you

have that we're our methods anticoceptive disiguales, although there's not there

a market a pastilla that not noticic all the

responsibilities, and even are for the women and that they're to say

for you're to the people, no, no, is that the

end the the aborto no is an ideal, no

is a religion, it's a other other other way the the body

of the women as a initiative private for the state, and for the

political. For that's that I'm my mom a woman obligated to parridden because

was a woman that was a job of but he had a little

a mother, a mother that I'm very very very

very and I'm very pastels to do postres a

a family very limited even my my mother Olympian, I don't know a tomb of her because they're so poor, that no

they were not a condition. In those conditions, I'm sitting in front of me, and I do say, not for, um, try to minimize or say, ah, my family, no, but in those contexts,

is that a mom, me be y'n't, and then, it's, me, he, he has, the hair, I, I'm trying,

that, you know, you're not you're there's there. I also have a mom the young I said, I'd like, I'm doing,

but that's the that's the context of that that was, that was there didn't have that I'm that I'm

carice the hair and I and I'm and I'm and I'm sorry me, pardonem

all of me, pardoned me I'm sorry my carice the body, and he said oh,

I'm going to me want to me want to you do you did you did you diffundia. You

you're crying, but when they were, you want to be, you'd like this video so diffundia. Me would have to be like, so forthy. I said, no, mommy, clear that no. He said, you want me, you want you, you want to hear you? You did, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

that's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, never, no, ma'amita, clear, but no, you know, I'd like, you not want to hear you, I'm going to reagan, me, he was reaganer, me to be reagania, and I said, no, but you do you know, but I'll do you know, but I'm just, I'm

that you know, I'm just, Oh, well, so he's He gets the arm up My head My family Yolando she Yer, yorent all right

And let's all right So, then it's your fault That's your It's a good Robando I'd say,

What a horror My son is a Ladrona That's a Mrdraulte I'm gonna Afto, I'm gonna make

My I'm My I'm gonna It's a corrupta How'd Countus There's There's some videos And see

Cmpants in the Calley And see my Mami Me My mom my love,

what a bad a bad to be a bit of a video committing a crime

I'm a lot of my family one of those of the values

most of the people is a bad or a lot to do how much a

little so my my mom me my my my and you

do you to do to cross a perrita that you that you

get to to get to work that you find you that my ex

a girl is a she is a an agressora you like you

did you That's if I'd be a much a great that's a little bit of my momita, but a video of you, my name of you having sex,

a video of you, a man, that's a minute that's a man, then you say a phrase iconic that's never, Mark,

I'm never, I'm going to forget it. My love, you know, you did you nothing bad. All and

all we gohemus. And then then I'm to signal to my family, you know, your armana

coge, your prima co-coe, your papa coge, your aunt, my mom, my mom,

my mom, my mom, me. The difference is that you you've been coger. And that's not you ask a delinquent, nor you know, it's a lot person. Me said, Lucha,

her, it's, the first person that me said, because you have a right to the intimacy? I've heard the word intimacy. Never, she was the first person in my world, in the world, that me said, no, it's

your fault. That's what you changed the life. What you did in that moment? That's what changed the life. That's what for me

was my first act of justice. The that your your own your own the way is

to give to to give to give to give to give to men, I'm, I'm sure men, when I came to

my abuel, Tere the I was I think she and I'm and I'm and I'm all right

all we know, we know, they're disconnected, they're not you know that's a

daughter, and you so, so, so you so chingal she's, she never

never to write very forced to that I'm to make

to make their postres or no no it's not it's

not it's not it's not it was a moment and when my mommy me me

when my my my in that I'm okay here I'm

okay I'm maybe I'm my first my question not you don't you

don't you don't you don't you don't we're to just you I think for that

for that I'm that's a that's a Olympia that's that's

that's those clinics were to you but you're made you

do you do you think I'm I'm in the that I don't

you don't think I'm I'm I'm I'm want to

the kids of that's they're they're they're that know

that we're that we we're that we can to leave.

For that I want to. That's a applause is for your mommy, for your

your for your family, for the justice, for the love, and

I think I for the truth. Because that what you did your mommy, is the

truth. That is the very clear. So, so it's so easy so

of course. I think what is what is the meta? That's that all the matter. For me

what's the meta, the Lawy Olympia that all right that's like my mom Mark Zuckerberg Jeff Bezos

Bill Gates the owners of the algorithm the industry yeah not we've not used

the congress and we not heard the society or when when someone sub in

a video sexual at least there still being many there's that are

saying it's it's it's your and it's your people there's Olympia,

yeah, also the people we can't identify that's a lot of the people

we're saying we're saying there's there's there's there's there's much there

so doing it so it's so I'm so it one of the things in that for me

for that I'm to think to the first act of justice is that

Olympia there's there's that's not us don't know we're our

moral, our value our moral, our our human is creal to mienten. That's not that's not important.

The destiny will know the but your value is to be it's always to be able to the institutions educative is

to create them to get to the victims and protect them and get to the other than the other the families is

to create to the victims. 9 of 10 abuse sexual and infantiles in this country are perpetuated by a person

perpetuated in this set we're able to we're used sexually when when we're women, for a child, for a

papa, for an father, for an brother, for a while, and not we'd be for a lot of the other.

So, creer to the victim's the first act, it's the first act of the law in the person.

So we'd use to do any of the person. I've said, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say,

you'd be, you'd be a little when I'm saying, no, hey, but you did you're you did you

do you're like, you're not like the other's that rompen, not like the other that are

to do let me be to be something, Marcos, if me let me let me

let's get the time, and they're going to be after the I'm going to tell, how's

and how much they're to go to go to the room to the ministerial in the public in

where me revictimized obviously yes. All and all and we're we're just we're just

it's important that we know we know that it's a form also it's a

form too I'm also I took the the advantage of a man to have a mom

that's a mom that no me culpourable. And that's me gave a little empowerment and me helped

to start to get to work but that not is the same advantage of other women, like Julisa

Jaquel in the cable telephone in your house and she was a in

Michoacan that's even even prefer to put her photo in the altar

because he was more more than a other that she had

had a photographs and for the discha, the immorality that the

family. I mean, it's important that we need that today you need to do you need to grab a

video sexual with your partner, to get a person, robes their photographs, roben super photo

and perfil, they're manipulen and then they're they're sexually in one of the more of two millions

of markets of exploitation sexual that exist in America Latina and that still this violence

is that is that is that is virtual, not it's real, no te heoled, or that's

still, unfortunately, is still normalizing and so it's that's the way that's the way of the

side of the when one is the time when one is a new thing, when you're you're in the group with your friends, with

your friends, to us, we're going to get to cellarres, if we're in a group of people, no, we're doing us, we're

having a group of people, the family, of the carnit assada, of what it, the other, the same,

they're, where they're and videos sexual of women that you know they're while they're in this

side of this video, that's the other side of the other side the other way of the person who's

you're doing, that you're you're saying pleasure with that you're being a woman that would be being to do

those photographs of that this time is this look. The obstacles most great to those you have

encountered, I think is the society machista. That is the obstacle more

that has encountered or what has been the difficulty more great that exists until now? Well, I think the first is to understand

that we're not we're not obviously all what you have mentioned. Another of the other of the important is

being a person, participate in a place in a public like the other place public, that is the

algorithm, that a a person, Adalo Baus, that the past 10th of October, was the day of Adelaus World, because it was from an algorithm algebraic, that we've known as a algorithm, informatic. Are the men who are the dominion

of the data of information of the industry technological, and that also, like to, to put a car and to do, I think the obstacle most grand is going to happen. I've got to propped the law Olympia. I've got a capture of a panel of a person

that said, is that in Mexico, a pseudo-prostituta, pass a deputist, and now for that you have to approve for the law every time they're in the

video, every time is that when they were approbable in the interior of the state, because no, not it was

not approved first the national. If we went to my companions, 32, the laws

organics of all the of all the states, no. It was was a we've been

and we're coming and we in Pueblo. In Pueblo. 3 of December, at level of

Yes, only state. So you're going to You know, you know, I'm doing my city, no, I'm going to do not, I'm going to

do that. Yeah, no, other than the end of the day, I mean, I did, I'm doing it

a much, this day, that was a thing that was, that was a question, you know, I said, I said,

I'd have to have the firms and do a initiative a citizen, but I know that

had to be for the state, but I did it the first that the first we were

to the 2013, the first the approved until the 2018. And how

recalowed you of resources, firm, abogos, who, who's who you know,

one of the mother, you know, we're going to let's let's, but to that

to get a to preb a law in the state? Well, the days and the years that

I was incerated, I'm like, when I think, my mom was a

great inspiration, but I'm so, I'm not I'm not I'm not

going to talk briefly. One one of me I'm I was just the balcony in my

house and I saw the girl that was like I've said like I've done in the middle I remember that's a little

I remember that's the media subed the video of those of the most locales municipal and and he

and put this Mugher Promesa of Wauchinangue in the social so that was

when the time that I decided also yeah not not not this is this is

this is viralized and then as well that I had appeared in a map portada like because I had done a robo

and then I remember that when I assumed she was coming in the street spampanante and I said wow and all the and all the world about her in the car like shoo chish

chish chas and all the and there was a and there was a person and then I remember that I said

how can't how can't how can't how can't oh how do you I'm like I'm like I'm inchiladas

I mean I said I so I just I'm just I think that I did and how can I was going to say, and he's like, my reflection

internal was, but what she committed is a delito, and he was coming down on the and I, where does it, what I did was a thing was, it was like, for me a, it's like me, it's like me, I'm, I'm just to learn, I'm to say, I'm going to do. I'm thinking to do it, and I didke to do a idea of loka, of a legislation, for that, recordandom

the words of the type, when I me me me dig here that this is delito, and when I me me say here, that this is violent, I said, ah, well, there's to put it, have to put it. that I remember I was with my my master's at my time I was

I said because I'm also I'm a car very truncate I was and I was and a little and I was

and I was and I was never a year and I said my life no I'm I'm I'm saying

I'm like I'm like you I'm gonna go to legislate internet I'm I'm gonna my name

you're gonna do you you're gonna study with you're you're I'm studying first sociology

then I me I mean, I started philosophy, then I did say, then I'm doing

some I'm going to do you I'm in every time you know the video in the university where I'm

I'm in the school. Yeah, so it was that I'm going to be a job, and when they

they were in the job to go to work to goochinango to go to Puebla after Puebla to come to

get to to get to to make to a city of Mexico. So I'm a person who was going to

go to the people because you're going to Uyndo, the video that you were doing to all the

parts, and this durred years. Yes, years, years, no. So, all the damage economic,

psychological, physical, physical. No, no, they're going to do that not say,

like, we're going to know, no, well, we're going to a class, no,

all the repercussions, yeah, yeah, of this. No, so, no, no,

no, no, no, no, what was, no, so what he was, no,

I did, I was, I did, like, I, I'm sorry me, but I want to continue living. Until when's emper, I'm saying,

no, no, I don't reeked. So when there are victims that get in the doors and say, no, limp, yes, and I read it. I'm going to grab. No, no, no, no.

So, first we keep, we, we'll just completely that that's a culprit that's not our responsibility. And when you know, I remember that I was I,

and I said, and all the one I'd try to dokeye. Sure, that's all right, no, this is super difficult. I said,

yeah, I'd, I'd, I doubt even even if so all you all you say no

you're saying that you're not no great abogas or even of those

that in those in those in those in those torres juridicic and from

this is this is this is well this is that well you you've been to

you've been to us we did it we're we're we're we're distribute

and distribute distribute different they're in the victim direct

of the I started so the verbs rectory of the law Olympic. Not only diffunded,

also they're they're in a camera in a chamber in a public. Vaya, there was a

violence of sexual when all the people knew the videos the videos porno of the hotels and

the motels of the clasas at Lalpan for example. So, yeah there,

why not, why not so it was because it was taboo and they were the women and they're

those people, they're those people, they're they're so there instructions to put

cameras to put cameras, and so not only only and we do we do we're doing. So,

so there we rompies the reason of a reason to get a little to get a there's a way of superandi

of the women that they were going to in the different in the centers commercial and then

they're going to put up to see this she's a person who I'm a place that one of the

thing that I'm not you not I'm not I'm going to do this was when a child was 86 of Bochinango with

with a syndrome of down, he was going to a resvalidia and if he'll get a little a falda and also it's a market

in the market asplotation sexual where me they put it put you, we've put it, we've put it on this phrase

that grotesque and I pere a excuse, for favor for what I'm to say. Putio the phrase

of your photo. Merellanla but at but at the but at least he's a

more than a woman sexual to a a a little a little bit so I'm

I'm a question she's a question she has the fault for nace for his feet,

for her unrued she's culpable was when those examples of those people

because more I was I'm put to to look at all those that when I

did that when I was my mom me gave that this imporamory to say we're going to let's

I'm trying to all those some people I was the only that had a video sexual. The other

other had many many of many of this of the material not the first of the

first of me gave me was of a little bit of an avatar in a videojewing and in the videojews

to violate tomultoriam to quack to kill and I'm about the videojew of some

young between 13 and 14 years ganaba the videoj who was who were

that was the people who programmed some chavit of secondary in the year 2013,

2012, you're talking so, yeah, no is new. So, so all these of content

real, or alterated, were imposed just to know those cases. What a soan, this?

What, the unferme, and the person that the person that he does the person who

really is downed, is a person, has a to the people, to the people, to the

people, and the What training you're doing? What is going to what

going to do you? So, it's a very very tors in 2012. But I

was 223 and Diego N. in the School Superior of Commerce a

was a man who was apparently charismatic calli that never had to his

fiestas but regressable I had 166 000 photographs

in an iPad that they were his company when they

they Photographies of them that's took in the college, in the salon and that's alterer with

with intelligence artificial and them desnudable. In the iPad was the photography normal and the photographia

edited. So, not we say that this violence just has to be to be

that's the cause of the this is a violence system. It's the new automaticization

of the violation. The system Pachircal, the machism, the conditions in the

conditions in offend, in that the odio to the human, the state apatirical affect a mark,

affect the people, it's not, that's not the only that's only that's un-greensed. So, in these conditions

of violence, is an extension to the violence online, and also, that has the technology, a condition

more extreme for professional that's these violations or automaticisades, no, and we do make a

break, a break, break, for the technology, and the first, the first

a woman, for example, I technologic that I knew, my first, my first encounter with an identity woman,

was robotina in the super-synical to the super-sonic, to service, always. The assistantes virtual, Siri, Alexa,

always, to our relationship in the years 50, yeah, they're tired of being of the domesticity,

and the lavator, the water, being in the sequator. I, the, the,

the, the technology, has a completely is- equal, and I, that's

what I'm a algorithm patriarchal. But it's but it's from the origins of you can't

I'm going to me van to be there but because of the thing of Adam and Eva and that

Eva was created for Adam that he took a costigia and he he created I said

that he he had we had a he said that he he said that the genesis

was not not so that so that then they they're they're they're

they're from that concept. No, I remember what activist I heard some way that said, nor the women, referring to the Genesis, no, nor the women were created for the women,

nor the blacks, nor the animals, for the animals, for the beings, but as we're our own reasons. But, but as we're getting

these ideas that, in some way, there's a God that created a someone for someone, I think that

there's a, there, there, there's a right, there's a difficult to, are the

technologies. Oh, yes, you know, that's technology. So, we're in the

question. For me, the chemo of bruchas, these years, these years, where they were empal them,

them, they'd be them, and they're for being about the plantas, for something

stupid. Because you like the naturalness. Something completely stupid. Those so

sogueras of that Inquisition still exist and today, the sogues are in Facebook,

in Twitter, in Instagram, and we're We're still being the women chemadas

injustly a time unjustly the right social. I said one of the publiced in those

social, something that was a little bit said, we're going to say, we're to have a

murder of the but not to the people who were those who and and now

and so and now. And so it's a whole, it's a group of a movement political

that aspirate not only to be the delit to be to be to know the violence digital,

but to change the consciences, to change the algorithm, to change the cell cancerigena that exists today, a time of the space digitalized. This episode of the podcast

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with the podcast. There are two I'm in this conversation, but the two me interest much. One is that you

can you guys how you're how you're doing how you're to approve in Puebla and how passed to Puebla to Mexico

and how passed of Mexico to other other side, it's more to put in the table for that we

talk about you want to you want to you're not, but other other side of this issue the origin of

this culture where the woman, this error, this this grand a I'm

a little. My question for there would be that we're we're we're going to

and what we have to do you know to do you the other is this that you tell us

so you do you want to do you all we're we're we're

we're respond to the first question no we're notcism machists

we we're we're not we not we're we're we're we're

we not we not people. We've made us or racists. No,

we're not racists, we're not we're doing. So, so we're doing, it's that

macho is that is that's a man, for example, when you know, it's that there's

more violence that's not the other of the other that's the same that's

that's because they're to be used to give to us. But, but to

be, behind this same example, was your woman, the a revista porn, for a cosificer a woman,

the first person that he said, look, we, we, we, we, we, we, let's see the little those chava,

that's the chava, that's that you go to another man, how is the patriarchal, how it's the childed,

that even to have been to have been, for example, to have to have sex to a

very menor's to do that, because it can't be in their pen, for example, no, and how many

many times in America Latin, suicid, more women, than women, and that,

has also with the conditions of extreme violence sexual that even be the men of the women of the moment of this ability.

So this not means, yeah, Beos Olympia, all we've seen to violence, women, and women's and

women, but when, when we're playing a movie, a commercial, cream for that you areugues, cream,

for that's good, it's been, to be directed to the women, even, it's got to the lastina

of the skin, it's, we're to the fear to begecer, the fear to be to be

being, and there's to, to put it, as other as an object sexual

as a on a standardization and automaticization a time through the technologies to the media and the rest of

the media and then all this, I went to be doing so, it was thanks to decen and decences

of my friends, my companions, Paulina, Marcella Yulitin Jenny, Manulita

that's all Luzu all those that we've all the last only is a whole is a whole

a movement political that's a non- un-exclusive but if necessarily

we're not necessarily, we're able to understand, obviously the Law Olympia was transforming

the first I don't say the the Olympia to be the the

history real of this was that the first when when they when I'm

they're to do a man to me say oh you is that

a forum of a and you're going to a reform. You're going to a reform. Because as I have participated in many

things, but as I'm like I'm months doing this I think it's moment in that I'm I'm

I remember that two days before to go to go to get to say, I've

never had so I'm so I'm so I'm put so I put it, I put it's like I'm

like I'm and I'm all I'm all I'm I'm talking you're I'm

I'm sure that this was a law integral, because if we did we did a law. Not only did we simply do you see a fiscalize in delitism in delitism

against the intimacy sexual. I see wanted a peritos special in criminology sexual digital. I was if were even the law of education

for that education digital obligatory within the schools. So, not it was only two

reforms. It was a way. For so when they said, it's not a law like,

I'm I'm only only only do, I'm only do reform, oh, poor

city, but I remember that that nita that's a little bit of those vicissitudes and that he put a legal

against the sexual digital. It was the first concept that was the first when I

was the first the first that I accepted publicly that I was that you were the

video sexual in the the people there, there's a there there.

There's a day. I was, I was I'm talking, I'm I'd satos, cucheching

because they'd you've been that I said, but is that has that you have a microphone and I am I'm

the sexual that's that's these different are you are you those culpables and I

know you and there there's there's people who and there's people who people

corrupts but no my person who's no my person who's I don't know to get a back you

I'm and I'm destramped and that day I found the power to change

the me, of band. That day I knew that the secret was in not

to know to be not even five hundred nine hundred five hundred and you've still have

been to you're that you're to get to get to that violence and that they're not

they're not they're I'm there. And that they're that they they're

to do that they do you do they do that yeah, yeah. The

The truth, you're free. And that's the right. And so when it's a little bit of

it. I was going to go to go to the escalars and I'm I'm going to tell to

all. So, because the idea is that. That is a secret. No. But now

let's say to that they don't that's that's going to that's going to

that's going to be a life. And then I decided to make a responsible to

be a victim. I don't know that's going to going to pass, but when it was the boom,

the news in the in the Puebla, I remember that there had been a lot of many people, I'm going to be so I'm going to to say,

I'm going to do you, I've written many offices, I went to go to the public, I'm going to get my

oldita, with the passage that my oldita, I don't me subed to a DO direct.

I was to the city of Mexico, I was I'd get to $70 pesos, but I

had I six hours in getting to Wouch to to come, because

it was for what I but I insistia toque many the way of many places

of many places even with those people of the penas of the people of to talk about to the

people and that people and that personalisable that personalis this and that you're saying but not

it's virtual and I know I remember the first legislator me, I don't know I'm sorry

I'm sorry what I'm sorry I'm sorry to make a reformer to ballar the poter yeah

was the first that I that I heard that you a The legislator of Puebla. No?

It was the first... So, your case, he called putteria? Yes. To your denuncia? Yes. But the I, when I

said, I, but you know, I went all those no. And I was looking a because- and so.

And so is how he started to do this. And then with the help of my friends,

first the victims, they were they're, like, like, you said, well,

but you do you do do you do do you, well, you do And I remember that when I

I proposed for the first not we know we're physically some of the one of us because we're

because we're I'm I'm going to say I'm going to put the car of the agresors because I

imprimed all the people that they did a like the video imprimed all the

guys of the and then in that session those I'm I'm

so I'm with the people that's the expose to your aggressor. We're we're to do those

tendederos to expose to expose to your those aggressors. Today I'm very viral very famous but so

it's like came on you going to a vance that even didn't even that was a newlency

digital, that we called it virtual, not it's real. And so then she I remember

that day came to them's a little a molyto black to identify them

and then when they were there all those with a mollito black and that I accepted

with I'm like, I was just I don't we're going to get to be to put their all the

people, they're not they're no, I'm in that moment, I said, I'm going to

this is too, we're going to all going to and we're to get to get to the day, it's a year,

2014, 2015, 16, 17, and it was to 18, I've been in the

city of Mexico, I've we've been here, and it also, and then

it, and then after of a repent he went a one

a friend and a opportunity of a opportunity with a little bit that's a legislator

and the first we we're going to see a new but it's a bit of a reformer of

the parties and I always I'm this emphasis and there there's many people

in the parties public that has there's there there's there's

that too there's bad but also there's there there there's

some of something that has to you I'm the creator of the Olympia and now vote for me in those informs

of government I'm taking this cause with fines electoral is a burl it's a burla completely

but the but the really it's always it's that you do take it you do you

yeah we just didn't we did we we're doing because it's to get mutton when they put

the law limpe was muting we went we we're looking we we've done

so So, you know, that I've seen like I've seen like many and the time we're in that I'm a

year of the year of Argentina boating on the way of the way of Argentina. A-in-a-me me pago

the waylows of the here. Right, right, ultimately a senator in the public,

mandam us on the office and us said to be to do a part of something that something that

does, but all the hotels, all, it has been autonomous. Maintenal the autonomy has

been one of the valorors grand and it's not. I, how I maintain I personally

I'm a life to do this, I do chas and I'm saying and I'm saying no, I'm worried,

I'm going to go over, much more than I'm doing and I'm doing the standards of the of the price of

the price of to cover. And all going to continue maintaining this this is like if someone

is doing if you want conferences, tacks, class, We need we need to do we need to dole of the luchess. It's so, so, Mark. It has been so, Mark.

Has been so, the victims, us did we're doing, and then we're, we're doing, women, against the violence virtual, then the Front National for the sorority,

and then, defenders digital, and now, retenters digital of America Latina. No? And then there we're, how,

making us, think, and things, and I'm, like, the heroina, or I'm, the barita, magic, I'm the merrameer.

I was in that moment I put my, my body limpeds we're we're doing we're we're doing and we're doing

when they're the law when she starts to start this reform, it's a preuvre of I'm saying

I was I'm saying the day, the people who were a loror for me, I could be I could get

to get a little bit more to be able to me, look you, I mean, so I'm that I'm

that you're we're just we're we're not we're not We're talking. Puebla 2014? The approbation was in 2018.

18. But in 2014 is when when for fin it's when we're... Let's do you do it exist until the 3th of December of the year 2018.

Wow. No? All those those years of tinn, tinn, tins, like, no, I'm going to be able to be the potteria, all that type of

things. And we were professionalizing. When it approved, I remember that he had appreciated other people,

it puss, no, he said, I, I, no, I didn't even know them, no, I'm not, I'm not, for me, it's a, like I'm, it's like I'm, like, I feel like I'm, I'm like, I just, I'm,

I don't want to, like, that, like, who's, like, who's, who's, people, people, when we're, when we're,

, they're, in the locality more, they, in the locality more , or even, know, I, know, I, you, know, but,

let meendigams, a chor of things, that in some moment, so, and, and, that, and, and, and, and, it, and,

It was so, the luch. It was very autonomous, very of territory. And I remember that when

the subpo a media of communication, I remember that I said, I did you do do this interview?

Because I knew that you did you did it to do you that was a law that's approved of

a public I'm I'm, I know, I don't, I know, I'm not, I'm like,

they're I said, I said, I'm, I said, I said, in my case,

I said, well, I'm, I'm, I'm, the story normal how

And then I remember that the Periodic Universal he put for the first in Puebla is a approve the

law Olympia. A raise of another opinion, of another companyer

also that put in a media virtual, I'm going to put a law

limpe and I remember when the option the law limpe and I didn't

you put so, no, no, the first that are going to

appear, I said, the first thing is, when I'm the first thing is the video sexual. I was the first

I was going to yeah, is it's the I was, I was going to think that you're going to think that you're

to say this, that I'm like you're to do you, like you're to get to start to the opportunity

to also and also the women we're not because we're not so, so, but not

I'm not so you, but not this you know, so you know, no, no, I'm so I'm

the way I went going to my friends were my friends, I've got when there

when there was a little there's nobody was there nobody's because one of the

things of the the rest of this reform not were the theory political of the

delito not was the debate the penal, that if we we can

we can we can't argument, not it was not that the first is

the first debate the first thing for that we reform in the

laws of legislators, it was, why I'm going to call the the Lye Olympia.

It's that's a article Ly Olympia Olympia. It's a way symbolica

to say, no, no, no, don't let put it say, don't you,

put in what whatever, I'm saying, no, no, no, no, we're not, no,

we're not, we're doing, we're doing we're doing a little we're doing our lives, we're

we're not when we're when we're when we're we're used, in a world in I think I'm

I think that the law Olympia no me pertenes to me that the Olympia

not is Olympia Coral that the law Olympia was a standard

of a lot of many of us that was a way that was a

way I was to do you today today actually actually

actually doing and I think and the law Olympia to me

did just when I did when I did I look in

internet to to I said the algorithm of Olympia Coral Milo-Cruz and I not were Olympia the video

sexual, the gorg and good of wouchinango I'm not the Leigh Olympia. And that's you know.

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what form to give the way to do the world to do that a thing a great now

now now there's there's a lot of attacks to the activities

and attacks digital and attacks has been of attacks of organizations, of attacks of people

in the government that just they use the networks, the bots do they plan to destroy

to women that are doing to different things. He has passed to the activists

for the rights of the animals, the the people to look for the

rights of the people, the the internet is a is like a

camp without law and where the whole and there is a

really, what is that is a or what is a night.

Anoche was I was images in the moment that we we're

the program is this horrible and sanginar conflict between

Israel and not and I'm and I'm seeing using

photographs that both both photos photographs that not

correspond to this war. Photographies of other wars, of other places and they're here's, so it's, it's

horrible what's happening, because no, no, no, no form of control it. So, to you have taken, be, set, be sure, so, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, there's, there's, that's that, it's that, also, I'm

going to say so, we're going to we're victims, but yeah, we're We're not just

the violence We've got We're victims but we're We're We're in systems

We're We're We're We're We're in the pediguerism and we're all these

and the staffers of all my friends have made that we have got

certain strategies but one of the things that at first when when was approved

the law Olympia in the city of Mexico we received we're

we're all what I'm I'm I'm trying about we're we're

we're still the we us Kittarves, you know, they're

going to do even a lobby really, a lobby very, in contra of you? In contra

of you? But at who's, who's, to the person? Is that what? To who

what it perjudica? I think it's, it's a system economic. Because at

final of the day, the fact of the fact of the economic, directly to

a company or a person, but, for example, if no if not existed

to the Leigh Olympia, this machocho, that, more mercantilized, was he was making money at through the exploitation sexual of those

children. It's more more than this moment, a or right us back on this podcast for da-as-a-moral

in Facebook, no? That we backer on a market of exploitation sexual, where they

doodene photos and videos sexual of women that are that are that are there,

that are still there, it has been a lot of debate is to think that the liberty of

expression is my my liberty of expression. No, it's that the liberty of expression no can do not know

the dignity human, and has been a great debate at that we have been in front of

this desprecrow for minimis for saying, oh, is that this could have been doing

more, it's a thing, the law limpegian is the panacea. There's

many there's many things there's many things to get to to goder

to down. Today I think one of the things in this colonialism digital that's living, no, and in these

conditions, something that puts in disbalance, in, in, in inequality, for example, is the access to the technologies. No, there are technologies for the women sordas. No, there are technologies directas for

that, in Nahuat, in Otomii, in Misteco. Desgraciately, the women adult, major, in our abelitas, when they did the vaccine of COVID-19, we don't we don't we go far into these

attacks grandisimus of information those women those women have to depend to a person young to

do their because the because the more technologies more are relegating certain sectors but it's

still perpetuating more more to the women and the new today, for example, with the migration,

the women migrantes that have to come to come to Newark to

Guatemala to the city of Mexico, one of the one of the things of the

things of the is grab videos, mandam me your photos, even if you are that not see of your feet and I

to give you to give you to get a $100 pesos Mexican. You think I have

a photo of a woman that's cargating to the baby and is

taking the photo to her money to get those $0. It's the

trap of the system to be a thing, it's take a those other way to

get them, absorbers, etcharls, corrupts, completely, and now with that to say, us to be sure,

there's sex in, sure, yeah, there's Leigh Olympia and not is so. I mean, he's, the sexin is,

is a form to have sexuality online, and I, never going to do not do you, do it, not do you do

do it, do you know, because for more that we get to the people, so, to all the people, not the end,

we're going to to care to share this sexuality, no, we're, oh, it's a day

past to this is a the The theme here is we're doing pleasure or for pleasure question number one

two, we're the elements of of cybersecurity three. Although we're all the elements of

cybersecurity is like when the politics of contamination not you do you do that's recogel

but at the state to the people to the people nobody says that

no they're they're to do to be on those of the above not you

they're saying that they're to be experimenting to testando with animals to the more, meros,

no, they're putting politics reales to counterresting this. The same happens in this sense. So,

is it's saying to the people have this responsibility, when the responsibility today is of the industries that permean

this culture mal-yamated porn and that's socialize a mercantilization of the people, today in a

lobby proxeneta in my point of view of my point of all the children, to for example,

your body, and now you're going to get a good, no you're just to get you're going to you're in to do you're

to do you're to do you? Ante this debate that I've made to tryer global, me it

is important to make responsible what I'm to say. I think with this tessitura

that if in five years that tendency of this lobby neoliberal over

our sexology our our autonomies and our Libertades in Internet over the women if in five

years still still this situation of the only force laboral of the job that at

least between five and ten years are to get to the economy and the economy economic

will be the exploitation digital in our today even today I'm going to

my only fans the the people not but you're the people

because the system is putting recording us to the people for what serve us

you are an object sexual. You serve you are to make a other thing. And, and also you're getting to get

to get a money. You're not you're going to you're going to get more than the women with

this. And this me seems a discursal that I want to try to this mess in this

day, in this moment because no is that is that's referring this debate to the

useria to only fans, to the usererer to only fans, to the person

that person that this prostitution digital. No. Because are different factors

and it is there the problem. It's to the consumers. It's a the system. It's a

plant, the nucleus that we're doing this and also is it's agranging of the law limpe and there's

not you don't know in the United the only reform that is that's the only it's delit

if not it is delito. Or today in the Owea I'm sure that when sub to

this podcast yeah not so a debate that you that we have done. But we're

is generating or is a certain conditions of a lay model for the world about violence sexual,

digital, when in Mexico we're in Argentina, the second country that we did this law

of the voice of the victims. I think that no there's more more law

than we know, we're of the United, the systems of the systems of

the government, the the systems economic, why, why when there's a

law that we're the Latin American and we have are rations,

not is the law model. No is us the other of the table of decisions, because we're not

because we're because we're about the conditions strict as this is there have survived, this people,

no, Olympia's this Puritan that's things, no, the difference of the Puritanism

and the people when they say, see, the people, no, and the moment

I'm there's sexing is sure a red patriarchal, that makes the same, both

we're we're not, the sexin, not sure, you, Cuitart, no. These are,

to re-orpeer the conditions of the liberty of the women to decide, they're on their own despanation of

the abort. And this side is, to understand that we need a new form of our pleasure, a new form

of our own own new form of our own those spaces digitales, that not to be a

situation of the culture porn, that hypersexualisa, that cosifica, that we can't be to be

a object sexual. that we want to that we're going to our liberty sexual, but we have to re-acubriced,

re-acomod, re-acemod, a new form in that that not we're not, the object sexual and in that that

not the not that's not the money, so, so in that it's so it

makes that the dignity, the conditions sex-ac-serban today, no-se-s- you know- with six-mil

dollars, you can make a robot to a a company that's called sex-dol,

to make- a-mage- -o-s-seme-semehan- of the person the person who the person to be that person to get your

new year, you can put that you can't make a little and you can't send to the baby pussy, and then you can't this new re-technology

to other way to put to the feminities or other to put the the paper of the identity of the woman as

an object sexual. And that is the critical to the system. For that I think the Olympia is

the law Olympia is the juridical, but not only is the juridic. Leigh Olympia is the voice of the victims, but not only is the voice of the victims. Leo Olympia is a movement political, but not only is a movement political. The reflection

is then, to all, and to all of that panel, that's the declado, atrathes, behind those places, we know that there's a tendency of an algorithm that learned of us, and that we program us to do, and that we're programmous to do, what

we're going to do, to change these situations from the individual, but also to be to be able to talk to them to be to be around to get to

these consciences world. What can't do the women? Well, in first place, I think,

to talk to other men, share them other men, say those debates, in the in the places

in the places where you say, you've you've received you, you've seen you've been

this, you know, you've been to do this, how is that they've learned how they've

learned that they've done that we've to have pleasure with that culture porn,

with a way to understand that you go to go to understand even the

conditions of the pleasure of the women, we know the human,

we're a person on the clitoris. And today is that

of clitoris. Well, you, you, you know, the world of the

country of the trompas of falopio because according a senioritingo that's

called the Dr. Falopio them discovered how Hernan Cortez

discovered America I'm you? You know, that all the conditions

of the gynecology the father of the pedigene oncology encrower during

four years to five women because I said that the black

not the black was they las her let's

let's let's put those instruments don't those people

did the women? They're an examin of mama is dolorous because it's

done to the perspective of the other the other the other because the women us had to

us and they let us and they'd let us and that they the responsibility to give us the responsibility

to do that that's of that's all this all this matter to support to us

to us to make us we're to make us that's what they said about your

masculinity that is a lot what they're I'm I'm still I'm still of

those that I'm But also, I respect to my my friends is a world of women, it's a man, it's a

oldopia is beautiful, because at the final, you know, when you know, when you see at this side, to me,

obviously, not it was easy to do you not be easy, not it was easy, to do you and day, this stereotype

is to be to be in a limpio. Oh, well, I'm talking with friends, no,

like, so, and so, well, but like you a feminist, this, no,

I'm saying, you know, So, I say, or that if they feel in alluded to

when one when one you feel like, when one, when one, you know, I'm going to tell you,

I'm going to say, then I'm so I'm saying, so I'm important, that's, that's responsible, from other people, from

the empathy with that's, why you're always always, we're saying, we're going to the culture, in the world,

carnal, we're going to experimenter how is the patiarchado not is a drama if we're interiorized we're going to be part to understand that the nucleus

that the problem us affect to all the persons but that our responsibility is to understand that our other generations

is that I no violo but if diffunds is that I know I cause but if you

you dole the chistes misogynos is that you no but if minimis when we

we're we're not or we're we're going to be finist coming up to say, I'm going to start about the

patriarchy no, so that's put them to say, I'm saying, I'm not I'm saying,

I'm not a manned a pack of a companyer at a I'm still I'm called

puta. I'm I'm also, but not we're not we're not there's

there's, there's there's of the opportunity to change that we think we have been

we've been we've been when we're when we're when we we're

of deletons digital. We're talking about of a enticat, robes of the bankers, frauds and interbankarians. With the arrival to the law

Olympia, we've started to talk to the rights of women, of the women and of their sexuality. Today, it's

very esperasor to be that the people, they are saying, they're saying, just here to pass, we're doing this podcast in the

moment in the Kloap also tamarned and tamarnes in Puebla to defundia to give to their friends

and that today, we know, we know, we know, we know, we know, we know,

because there are women who are that are talking, that are denunciating. So, as well, then as, if you're, you're going,

you know, to you know, or signal to say, not need a place in the march, not need an

place in the contingent, no need to put a paul in the pliresses of this, I'm a feminist to,

to do do this responsibility is iconica, general, primary, about what in this system his gender

has benefited more than the other. So, with a certain we're going to understand, oh, yes, it's like if right we're just, it's like we're just in a podcast of puras persons afroescending. And that's going to say, oh, yeah, no, also, to the wueros, no,

also to the blacks let's have lived. No, it's about the violence against the blacks, nor to us people, because all we're doing. I'm here, because me summed to this assembly

of persons afrorescendient because I'm part of your luchy because I want to be with you guys and we're back-y, poor Donald Trump, the news is, the Negroes are some of those malos, because they're notherom, as far as the news, feminists, they're in the marches,

in the marches in Spain, six, seven years, he'd have a cartel, a man that said, I'm here, semi-dunood, and no me feel insecure

when I'm going to the women, I want the same for the first plan of the periodical the country, was, it's

a woman, I'm sure you that's more than that's our

role, as I'm like I'm if one day the animals could have some people,

all the people, I'm all the people, I'm I'm I'm

I'm adopted three perrita the mola and the m'alli

and the conelita no because to me make to make to

make that I'm in that other generations of humans even I

when I when I the little not I get to have the same conscience

that I'm in the thing that we're going to do completely of what we

constructs this system and in that deconstructions to understand that so you're you're

pardoned you've done a coroner the better of the world because you have done

you've done you have done you know you're a venti and that you're

in a certain responsible to you're has been that can do the system school,

both private, what can do the teachers, the directors of school, what can do you can do that

how can help the system educative to do you about the education digital, about

education digital, not only only about about the software and we're still we're

still in the school of technology software, the the way to the right,

the other to the other the No, but to understand that the software and the hardware, and at least, we're having people humanized, not deshumanizing the Internet, not deshumanizing the technology,

not deshumanizing this use, and, also to be able to be, the technology, and a breach digital, only the 30% of the women study on things related to technology. Only the 10% of the women, according to the data of the UN, are metied in the development of intelligences

artificial. So, what I mean I refer to that? a breach and a disquality in the use of the technology, in the science, in the sciences exact,

sometimes we're going to places where they're in the other things, there's still being more men, so the schools have to open

these breaches, to combat these breaches, to get to to get to the technology, to prepare to get,

but to understand that one of the things most important that we have to do not just the technical, but not

not to be a time to be the human, In the place to say, but for what you grab you? I'm saying, I know that you're living bad, no see, I mean, how

functioned the Facebook, but not to be to leave solo, and not is your fault. And if I have to accompany to your house, to talk with your papas, for that you're going to do you, I'm going to do you, it's the no-humanization, nothing

more. And the no-dumanization has to be with ourselves of all the sentiments and discover that we can we can dominate the technologies from the from the from the technique

not just to not just to not just to get to be the studio to get us to know to be to get us to be

not to be not to get us things, not to be the society as a society as a government and institutions

publicas that this this is that this what can't do the religion organized?

The religion? The religion organized because it's also I know that's a thing

super delicate but but we don't we can ignore it because

it's one of the founties of programation that we have done

from we're not I'm not I'm not I'm not going to general of the

religions organized for what this change? Well, I think to

open the doors to the debates from the tolerances is the first

key to understand the other edes to understand those

we're we're talking I'm I think to start I

I've done a seminar with some with a company about about theology feminist

of colonial I've I've to share with women that's super interesting yeah

yeah yeah I'm I'm I'm I'm and I and do

and do and I think that that we're that we have a disadvantage

in the moment in the when we just they know so yep

So, yeah, from there's a disadvantage. The father, the father is, the man of the family. So, me seems important to be aterrisal. I went to a child,

and I remember that a little bit of a year and I'm a boy, why the father is a father, because the bird is the spirit,

and I never understood. I said, but how? But how? And today is it's not again,

again, this, and to understand that at the final of the day, we have a thing,

we have we have a we have a faith, we have a right to believe.

We have a little I'm a maybe somebody is going to get to get to get my

to get to my mom but Isabella Nunnke in Ecuador he gotro

of their religion to get to so so I don't I think

to get to what you don't that you think that it

is important to understand from the history and from

the right one is the institution religious and another

thing is the faith and in the there There is a multi-universe of

things. And in the institution religious, there are many debts. And I'm about this because historically

some religions are those who have been the great oppositoras of the rights

of the women and of many things. Very very very very controvertido.

And in all the institutionalizations to be all the things that institutional are

in a regime triangular of pyramid Kantianna, the above the power and above the

subdits, that's the time of the subject, for so to call it historically and that

in these conditions of how we're we're organizing in a manner not horizontal no,

terminate all the situation, the parties political, all the institutionalized in this moment from this

optica, historical, political, social, anthropological in the people in the history of the system patriarchal,

terminate in institutions patriarchal, so, so for that's that's that so I'd think that's that I'd

also, sometimes I'm going, at times, sometimes we, a time we're, that into these situations pyramidal, as in the constructions

in that we're in all the religions, like the most, as president, no? Yes, but the others were more,

more feos. Yes, but the other of the other they were more bad. Yes, but before the end of the

religion has been pedophilia. In all the constructions institutionalized, in where there a pyramid of organization,

there's a man, a person, and in second, there have been there's exploitation to allos

and allas, but ensanated against the children, and that there's deus of all ways. So,

so to be responsible of those dews and start to decentralize the feds. I think decentralize the fess

very good. I now think in the Pachamama. I'll let me reso to my abuelas.

I'm the I'm also that's old the Eurocentrism today. Today we are you are supertitions

the that I'm a psalty or a penitio for that I'm don't me

don't because my my oldie or my some timeas we're doing

a book of the children that's we're that's not that's that in my

people, it's a little and it's a little and he's a little

a little you know, you know, it's a thing that they're like a word,

they're to say, what is what is what is what we to think of what we we're doing

we're when our relationship and the relationship. And the understanding that when we

we're we're we're for that deshumanization. When we we're going to we're in the

same place that Christoval Colon and the day of the race. When we do this is to understand

that effectively today there's information and we have these discussions but in my point of view of this no, no, I'm going to,

when I say, no, the parties Politicians, what do you think? I mean, I don't get to go-gordo any the PIN,

and the PRAD, or no. I mean, I get in Gordo all. HUNT. But I'm have good friends

in every party. And also there are good people that I'm at least with me

but that's not means that's a main of my main to be my friends to be the never never

that's a little that's and then first we have to put to us

to start the idea that's what we do we we're we're we

we're all the and we're not not be not going to look

I'm very fat I'm this me look me voice

Alta so big that I'm like I'm super super sexy because I'm super sexy

because of the I'm not you know paint me a woman sexy is a woman sexy

in a stereotype of begette of geoff nalgas so chichis so so that

we're always we're never sufficient apart is a part is a model a European for

supposed it's very very very or centristo not it's not not it's

not African never we're never we're European but

it's the standard of the the standard systematic, machista, and patriarchal

that's that's put to to the women, for that's one, get to and be with

with eyes of you. With eyes of us of us with us and that only in

this moment the women us can't us can't not that means that I want to

all the men, I mean, it's so, no, it means that even a person who has

a person, the man, the truth, say, yeah, the netta say, go ahead of you

do you go away I need to I need a no need a place I'm talking because it's

moment of this salvo those people are to do you do you know there's there's a

because now there just there no or say no salvo but but we're

we're we're we're we're doing it we're doing I'm a form

to do because I'm I'm I'm I'm this this is

the love of my my mom but that that a woman that

is a bad decision, or the mal, the radical, the fea, the way, the that's a bad,

a good activist, a good feminist, because it's a legal, okay, and I studied. No,

for you to go to other women that came the door of the Congress. To you

get to the decisions, for I to be here, certainly there were other women

that luched in the media of the communication for that too, that too,

that we could be to talk in a microphone abiot. If we were the women are the stories,

I'm sure, I'm sure that all those do we're feminists. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you,

thank you, thanks, of, of all the heart of, this, I think that,

as a man that I could say, I think when the women, all, we're,

we're, we're have been or either or nobios or or spouses

or father or nietos of other woman. So, the the little

little little of a mom divorced or separated in the Mexico

in 1970 in Mexico very different at the other it

has a much but it so if Doa

my And I, like his his I don't know, because of the the disorders that I'm the same

I'm in the thing that I'm in the world patriarchal. So I'm a little very enojured with the world

patriarchal because it was a that discriminated my mom. In the same family, in the city, in

all the and that's that was a that was a that the that was a that you can say,

but I'm I'm sorry, but I'm also, I'm a Your Irma, within me. You know your

woman. I have my little bit of and I'm a daughter of my daughter of my wife and I'm doing to all the

women who are I'm not right to do you know what I'm going to be making us etchandos there's

there's that's that that's that. That's that. Well,

thanks. Congratulations. Felicities for what you have in Mexico with all your team not

your solita but with all the team with all other other

other other women and Felicities because you're doing in the United, in Argentina, recently, what comes. Felicities.

There's a little more that you've asked. No, no, no, at the contrary, much thanks for the space, for the moment. I'm the only that I want to share

with these podcast and that's living this violence is that they're not, they're not, they're not, not it's true that's going to

do you're the bad, not it's true that you're the matter, is to do do something. In that moment it's going

but your body is a crime. This is a crime in this country. Approximately is a

a deletit in America Latina and even there are other other world where

they castiguan something they're not when we empodeled us and when

we're we're when we're we're I know if the law Olympia

we can't to give the justice that we never never

I can't say that the The Leigh Olympia is the panacea and is all the good. But what I see the same is that when we're when we're impovered, when we're

we're going to, when we're a matter, and when the fear is not directly, for the law limpeer in the law juridical, but if it's the leo limpea, for the political, is that this no, we're going to keep down the life. If we're still together and

if we're saying about and if we're actioning from, from the amor and from the digner rabia. No? That's I want to much. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. In where you can you can't see the people, in where they

can't contract for a conference, in where they can do not for the cause,

in where we can't we can't support and I'm very, I'm in social

in Twitter as or or Olympia C Mujer in

Facebook I'm like all my are they're still, but also we're

like a front national for the sorority, defenders when they're to see a the companyers with a boy

to the law that's America in the and the schools, you know, I know, I know there

many costs and many things, but for favor, helpen us to that we can't

continue to keep to keep to do the work of the women because we we're not

we're not we're doing we say no, but it's that there's that there's there are

there are that's, that's, I'm a lot of conference and we're in a minimum standard to

continue to people, I'm the only that there are many people not precarice the activism, the work,

the territory, the job social, of all the and the activists, no, for favor,

and that also, you can contacter directly to the courier at gmail. com,

that if you are a victim to this violence, we have a group of support that

we're we all for things more holistic, We share this enticentipensare, sentisabere, is the group Sanando

Juntas and they'll hand them a brazo to all those valenties that are there and we're doing, we've got this the book, I did this poetry,

I did this sentadillas, I made, I bought a paleta, adopt a pair, so things more solisticas for sanar junters.

Because this violence, not only is, and you, learn to learnes to live with her. That if you

want to also, that's pendent, too, in the the social because we need we need to continue diffunding this message

but that also if you're a mom, you're doing this video sir, I'm going to do a little bit but I'm going to

make a conflete an aggressor a possible aggressor, a woman that we can't have a victim but when

you say you're saying look at those locus that's people are that's trying that when you

can't be when you're to say you're going to important that you create to the victims, that you create to your kids, as a child, as a child,

and that's, I'd say, I'd like to take all the cases of allas. I'd likeerpar me, today, we're at the 5th of the morning, the Fiscality, I'm at least at the 7, I'm almost in-vibo, to get to get to Argentina,

to accompany to other women, to be there, vigilando that, effectively, I'd like, I'd partying me in 40, pedasos, to be able to answer. while I'm here

my telephone to be a minute I'm in messages I'm I'm in sometimes I'm a

responsibility to be a of having a law with my name and that's a very

very great you did the law and you respondem well you you've you're

you're you've got to you're because not the same scenario lamentable

for example with with Belen San Romana Argentina or with Ingrid Scamilla

as a a woman who not is this, this violence and there and there's a lot of

it's, oh, well, we know, we know we we're going to we're to do you to get into,

the state to the institutions. But there a woman a woman a live, that

he reindicue the name it, it seems to pay the price of having us reindicated

social and politically then so I'm much empathy I, always I'm

so, just let me chance of primarily in Instagram in inbox. That's

I those I don't personally personally I. And of all those that they want sum are they want to tell them

this podcast and to share this podcast and share this mandar a hashtag Leo Limpia the Virtual is real, from the

mom, with the mother, from the mother's, and our abelialialogue to give us

to give us to give us to come down to an victim to talk to create also what does that

also what does do you have done more soldiers. Much. Soldioles of allados

of all because you solita and with the people that you know, you know, the problematic is great.

So I'm like this you're doing form as form as part of people, start to study. I have a

friend who got to study right to just to defend to the women and to do the and not

not, you know, so, not it's doing for your career. Yeah, it's a

market techia and other and other things and get a good but he to study this in line and

to be able to understand to do this to study leas, making to a, to get a

title to make a title, and to help because what urges are resources, is money,

and more people in the movement to help. And also, we did do much that we

did we did it, we're a company, oh, who can have firm the recognitions?

And says Marce, my Marcella, that's a mann a brother, he said

Marce, well, I thought I, I, but we could be an authority

to be an the grand voice of Jolitsyn Haimes, to the call her, a while I'm a great brazening and said, no, companions.

How we have to be certified, avalated, firmed by someone who is what a major authority that in the last

we did the we're not ushirt we're not. So, so there's you know, you need a title,

too, to continue doing it, and also you imagine, I'm people, I'm imagine, I'm I'm trying,

you're, Sure. You know, you know, and also. And many. And various. And the last.

And the last. And the last. And to start in this theme, because it's something I've that I've lived in Mexico and in the States,

I have two nationalities, I'm bicultural, I'm a new fronterizo, no? And one of the many of the things that I'm

with activists, amos, and amigas activists for the rights of the women, of the people with disabilities, in the States

United, in Canada, in Europe, there's a culture of to give money to the causes that us import and deducing the impuests. In fact, what I see I, Robert Kiyosaki,

the author of Pader Rico, Padre Pover, you say that financially is good to give the 10% I, religiously of my gancias, don't

the 10% to different institutions that are in my heart. And the deducus of the impuests.

It's legal. But in Mexico, the people, the country, not we don't have the no

exists and it's very difficult and it's one of the the best ways of the people of the

people not the time, the knowledge the form to make to make us to get to

get to get to go but it's it's a money but no don't don't we don't know

I'm like that good I'm good I'm so good but I'm we're we're not

in our culture so I don't know I'm I'll give a Donemes, in this case, to the organization

to Olympia and if you don't know the animals, don't the organization that you want to to help to the people,

to the adults to the kids, to the kids, to the kids, to discapacity, to limpire the water, to Greenpeace,

to whom you want to, us, we, we don't, us has a fact, the diesmo, the deism,

well, does your dizm to the organizations and the activists, those and the activists,

that are and that's the money because these these scenarios of the not have to be in the hotel

me get, in where I'm how I'm what I'm I'm going to that's a sackito reddermozo

that my my plumita all costs so let then we're to don't so please and there

are in the social and we're we're we're like the idea also the the fact

the fact of the so we're we've been various courses, various towers

helpen us. I don't know I'm not so I'm going to there's many of the and say you there's

a little bit in your heart of this podcast no repit in where in where

donate to where do that Front National for the sorority Fronte National

for the sorority in Facebook we're on it's on www. www.

com and also I'm also I'm directly in my social

Olympia Coalal New in Argentina, it's a post of where they don't know

it's not not in a way of a but we're not a lot with us help us with us

institutions, capacitouins, and continue generating this line of action and this line of

places, we're present an informe also, we can usecarrague directly about who

who can't not only we're not only we're not only we're not we're not only we're

of the insuffer digitales, also can't change this situation and we can't be able to and there there's much

information, for favor, for favor, for finalize you, the only thing is to share and now

see, we're going to it's the last time. It's the last. The other Mark,

we're going to let me, the other and we're going. And the last time we're going. The ultimate.

Thank you. Much of thanks. It's that, that, that a we're that no

there are ways to continue and keep we're we're we're doing one of 12

femininicidious all day in this country, that we we're we're we

have sexuales that we we're we're one in America Latin

in exploitation sexual infantil one of every five videos that

is so is a red social and when your algorithm you have you have you you have a empathy,

you know, you know, and you get a lot about that you do you get a thing, you get to do it

and you're just over a second, you know, and that you know, we've many things, and that we're

we've got a world and that one has a carouser and his bochito. But that is important

that we don't we need that we we've been in this moment, in this history, in this reality

and that what was for us what we don't we've for us

that they don't have others, that they're the next generation there's we're

to have the world better than we're we're so thank so you so you

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