El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 312 - El otro lado del miedo - Marisa Lazo

Episode Date: March 4, 2024

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question, that the people exitos, no has you, then you think you, you,

you know, you're having your fear, if your peace, if your peace, if your satisfaction

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authentic, then you're going to say, this is what I want. If you know, if you know, but that's a very, that's a

very thing. There's a very to be able to be able to be able to. Of the other? To deceptionate to you to you?

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but, but, but, that I'm going to I'm going to to use, I'm going to say that nobody never

never to get to be impossible. All the people. All the people are sometimes

us do you know, fear to get to get to a carogon that's a bit of

a lot, you know, to be a lot of there's there's there's a problem

is the fear, that is a realational that you limit to to grow the fear

the fear that you don't want to do you want to be because, you're go

mal. I don't want to my heart. Because how if do you

do you do you do not to be not to do you do you we're going

to be to be to be going to get a Marisa Laso here in Guadrajara

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find pastelier Marisa in 1999 since has been able more of 100 sucursals Marisa Marisa

regress to go back hello Marisa oh Marco that's good that's good how beautiful

that's so beautiful to be in your city in Guadalajara Guadalajara is like

traditionally really modern. It has the part traditional, a beautiful, the center historical. What is the

what you're that's a way? Oh, many things. But if you have a reason. Guadalajara

has like the maraville to have a great idea of a great idea and with that great and architectural

and architectonica for the course. And at a base is a great city in a great

city of the city of Mexico, and where you where you where you can get to get

to the normally to the people don't the so much the art,

not you don't get to the culture, not you don't get so much your

your family so I'm still that's a very good climate. That's very very much so we're

very much to the people who go to go to this place and it's a little people

magical and more it's has a part hyper modern with edifices

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and we great characters like Guillermo of the Toro, like the golfista, like Jimena

Arabara, TV's universe, Marisalasso, not the pastels. Censucosal of Paso. Applaced, applause for your

sucursale, yeah, Marisa. Yeah, me did you my options veganas? Yeah,

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zero percent gluten, zero percent lactose and zero percent lightos and every good. With arananas.

Delicioso. When I went to the subcursal and I'm going to get a car and say, Marisa to get me, Marisa. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, I'm going to do. To do you, I'm going to do. To do. To have, right, right we're going to

be, right, we've got, that not are 50 sucursals of your business, but the

so-s- so-sucosalers. So, so I'm I'm going, that through your process, you've

had seen fear, not one, but one, but a sometimes times, because at some this creencia of that the

people exitosa nacio, that the people exitosa, because no see fear, and as they're so,

they're doing they're so you, you've seen you, you, you've seen a fear, I'm

sure, how you're the question, because not that we're, we're not we're not we're not

we're not we're not we're doing, but the people, and if you that's the error or

that's So you, you, at having you can't get to be successful. And no, the important is that you know,

well, you know, as a little bit it's important to have it, because we're to have some, because we're

to have this sense that you is intuition, that says, this person, this person, not with the person that should

do you know, or this case or this case of course, it's not where all the other

meads, fear of to learn to prepare, fear of fear of fear of the fear of

to regal all those your fears, not they've done to be able to do that. And I've

had to have many to the question, to a question, to the question, to the first, to the first, and the

first one of the first, before you're, your first thing, for the people, because there's a lot of that's,

that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, you know, that's, you're,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, was reading a statistic that's, that's, that's,

that's the people that that's a person in the world, not a He doesn't work in something

that's a good work in a work in a work on something to be but they're afraid to do

what you're in. So, let's be that's really, that's that's really, that's right. The grand

majority are the 15% of the people of the world. Well, according what says to these

studies, at the more the studio is not too, but we're to carry the middle of

the studio with that the person would be doing something that is sufficient for that

not the question. We're going to let's a 100 students. No. Quintan us

the mind. For you, what is the fear? How you know, how you know, in what moment you did

know what? What are the first fears you're the first fears? Tell us about the first fears

because you're to get to me first to be my story, of my

and maybe the first me fears were like, my kids were when I started

when I had one and two years. a mom present and a mom that was a woman that's and a little bit to keep growing the business.

But conform I was going to pass the time, it was going to that the problem and that other than a problem. And that also, I think

what, the most of the meadows is that have been with ideas that prejudiceds, ideas pre-established that we've gotramed

to the most of our fathers, of our fellows, of an friend, of some some people are many times

are our but not those creemos. So, So I, for so in my podcast, and I was the last last that we've seen together, I'm going to, I promote much that we'll sub our volume in our voice interior

and so we'll back him to those voices exterior, because many times are those who are those that men that sheen's left, you're going to, you're going to be a good mom and at the way, emprendent? Or you're going to continue creating this business, without discurial to your kids? And at

even if you've ever, you know, and it's to have occurred and you yeah with the pure question and with the pure doubt you have

to make a way to get a way to be a way to be a way to be able to be a good partner. And that's

really important. First, I'm to know that those fears of the people, they're doing. They're doing that you

are doing, or of something that they're not, they're they're doing or they're doing it

and they're something, Mark, is something is something that is something that's a passion and

when we've partick that's a thing in common of the two is the the to believe

more to us and believe more in us and in not enough congruent the sufficiently

strong, as sure of us to say, and put it a limit, to say, these is these

meos you're not me will drawer. Or these prejudices or these not

I'm going to me, no? And it has something to have something that's something you

do you know, that's with a process spiritual and a process and a

process and a Much of those fears implicate to put limits also to be the same but over

all the other people, and that's a thing that's that we can't that we're for, that we're going to

that passion and for that for many reasons, me caches very well, I'm really,

I'm going to see what has been the you, I'm, I'm, but for me every

every time that I'm every time every every time, if there if there

there's a thing to convince me to me me myself, obviously,

but the most difficult is to outside what I'm in, you know, yeah, we're going to

when I'm when I'm when I'm to get to do you, the most difficult not was convincing me,

the more the more difficult to began, is, explain to the people, to talk to, you're going to

you're going to get diabetes, you're going, you're going to fall to the protein, a, one,

one, one, a maquizzi in those times in those because you're going to

have to have to have to that's the part difficult. You're start to

get to get a not a way and also I'm not I'm I'm

don't want to depend on the television like I was I'm

what you do you do you do you you how you're

going to you blah blah blah blah the podcast right

that we we we're we we're we we've got we

we've we invest a country to have our public in live is very important.

I'm going to say something interesting. Pardon, terminate. No, and that's saying we're saying we're saying we're why you're doing

so. So, no, no, no, I'm just, I'm, I'm just, I'm about this thing, that's the point

the limites. Because you, when you when you decided that you not you're going to start with a contract

exclusive or when you're going to communicate, so it's so it's we're going to we're

is to say it, if the limit has to be with some relation abusive, if it has to be with some a relation of a realation of

that you don't you do you decide to put the limit, the most difficult not is to say it. The most

difficult is to stoper to and to those that they're not, they're not I don't want to my nietos

all the last times? Or yeah no I want to be the that always the food family.

And the those other people are going to make a like, like, like,

like, like, like, as it, you always, So, the important is,

although they say, that's a car in the cause of the person, that's a good, no, that's that they're that they're saying, or what you're

because you're going to go to the kids, that's that's not, that's important, so I think it's important to prepare us to put those

limits, know, to be coming in conformity, but that's not it means that we don't mean, we're going to

get to our limit, no? Yeah, like a woman to say to you know, you know, you know,

I'm trying, I'm trying, or I'm I want to be I'm going to have my independence financial.

Oh, no? For many, that's a great threat. So, because it's the fear.

Mied to you degen. MEDA to no pertaincer. MEDA. MEDA. to move

the formula and it's a thing to you can't tell us of those, of those MEDs.

And just so, and just, and just those MEDOS and just those things that's time that we're

talking about about this time on this podcast. in the Paris, and in the books. Just I,

I, I, I don't, that we've been to, all these these fears, if not you

free, and it's a lot of comfort. Uh-huh. So, for example, I was, I was a

time, I remember, for 50, 100, people, and a lot of people,

and then, and then one of more of 500 people, and I'm remember, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to to give a conference or even I'm invited a little bit

to be a about a couple of 200 entrepreneurs in English and type I'm talking so that's shortita

so that's so they're more difficult still more difficult to me to be more more difficult because there

some way we're in a point but eight minutes or 10 no so then I then I have

to learn to learn all the memory and so then I'm so I'm remember that I'm more

I'm going to I'm going to have seen to be the scenario and a night before

having said But how I said that is it? That's nerve. And start there up up to be temlap in the time

my time. I'm in a question. I'm in Spanish. Oh, and I'm really nice. So, five million.

Yeah, no, me need any fear. Because I romp that, that fear of the auditors

enormous and I was out of my zone of comfort. And something I thought we talked about the time

pasted. That when you know, when you're when you're when you're you're doing things marvelous

and you can be things grand. But if you you're sitting or sent out in that zone where you you could have kind of got to have

kept out, I'm going to have said always, I'm going to have been much recognition, I'm going to have a lot of what you've grown

to do that you have seen, you have done to have done to do your way to interesting, much more profound and more real.

In the moment that you said, this is what I want. But there, there in this theme of, me going to

go to the zone of comfort, it's a person, it's in many conferencists,

this, you know, you know, salted to your zone to get to your softs, the one of your

sort of, the one of doesn't have to have done results different, and if is the

but when you want to get to your zone of comfort, the what you do you

do you do you know, you know, you know, that's the mind, you say,

ah, a, uh, where you go to talk, and how, and as

the and as the mind, you know, you know, he knows perfectly and you

say, what to say to Marisa, because it's the Marisa, that not is the same that would be a lot of me, to tell you,

you know, you know, you know what are your abilities, and you start to start and you start to be able to

that you know, that you're vulnerable to that fear, and you're to do that autosabotas, auto-saboters, that's what

impressionant, no? And I think it's a good question, because you know, is a term very trillated

to start of the zone of comfort. But you, but you can, start to your zone in

something, can start with a little different to to what always you know

and you need to have a conference for 50 people to give to give to give to $2,200 because of

50 to or a 10 or a 10 or a minute or a minute, but I think that the

important is that you know, because well you know, the fear you know, the mind

you know about you know how you're perfectly to do you know, I know

intimately exactly exactly. Intimely exactly so here so here so here

the important is that every piece of that you're going to the importance of

you're going to say, no I'm going to get sitting down to where I'm not going to live the

life that's never been living, or the emotions that's always I've never had to have been to be more

more than you to live more more in peace and so and so once that even though I'm

I'm sure, the people because normally there are two types of people, one that this is my

meta, I want to do a conference for 2,000 in English and I'm in 50 people in in Spanish.

And so if I do for 100, then I'm going to be applauding. And if I do for 200 or because there are people who are

because there are people who are until that they're even subcursals or even or even a million, or even if you

have a million, and in that moment, I'm going to and we're celebrating all the passes that we're doing all the so you know,

there's more and see that maris and that mark of six years. How it was? How has changed. Wow. So if you start to applauded, you

start to be a little bit, to hear you say, I'm going to recognize, I'm going to be, all the way to do you, and all the other that I could do. I remember when I'd 40 pastels, me sentia, at the last time, me sent to the grand pastelera, and I was happy, and me the

applauded, and I said, no, manches, what good pastelera are. And then, then, then, before were 400, and 4,000, and 40, and never, no, no, I'm to be able to have, to have the success, that like, the ideal, or the

the time of company a big company, with more than more than my cocine in my house. And so that

also also it's a lot of you know, and you motivate too because obviously they're going to get problems,

they're to get to not yet, but if you do you're doing and you do you're celebrating, it's much

more easy than the frontes. That's up your own your own time. Celebrate every try of

the form of the way. Exactly. Because it's for more imagine it's a little, imagineate to

you no, no, not you're going to celebrate until you know that's a what I'm

what I'm what I'm like that's a good thing that's just oh, oh, oh,

oh, how beautiful, me a bit that'sota, no, but no important, my re,

that's no way, and so so we're so we're to be with us with us

with us that's a little a piece we're to celebrate no, that's

we're not we're this idea is a book of Dan Sullivan that's the game

and the Gain and the Gap has the the the tramo like you like to get

to get to get to get to get to get to get to people with people with us. With us. Because if

not it does, the consequence is that you make your fear is that is being more grand the the fear of

then you do you make a few probably if you don't have celebrated those 40 pastels

other part of your mind enter, this, ah, 40, whoever those can't

get here to get at here, you're pastelera of the Colonia, but you're

to the city and you're and then you get to get to the mind. There's a

thing that about a about a about a minute that you take the control and metas

other dialogue, that other will be to see, that's the dialogue of the question

that's important to talk those things to talk the time that you're

not doing, they're going to be able to the first is to know, the first,

is to know, all those we're doing you know the moment you are you conscious those you're

not you're not going to growcing, but they're going to growcing, but they're you know, like you said you

with a more other ways to do you're doing but I'm trying to get to get to get to it's more

more. It's more. I'm sure that you're still to do you know, but you're but for

supposed like I'm like you. And sometimes you've got you've got got many times you're

so many times that I'm more of so much exactly. Exactly. Panic, because is that the

second path. I mean, I'm going to you, I'm going to you that's you can't you're going to

get to be a new new because our first time. We're not we're going to we're going to go to do

offices and we're going to do a new platform of education and we need to a studio to produce

our material. Podcast, classes, offices, physical, we think we we're not we're in

the world physical, we can't continue in the home office and I'm I remember

when I went to the first local, that was, I said, so, I started. So, after 25, rented that

first local. Pagable to $4,500 pesos of rent. And I was had to pay yeah, rent, to pay, you

need to be my cochera, because it was I was done a lot of a time. And then I went to a

second local, that was a time to be a lot of the first factory, and there was a renter was to do that

so, so, it's much. It's more than four times. And I remember that much

people me said, Marisa, but no, So, how you're going to to pay them? They're going to

these. They're going to sell in the need to get to the people like you. So if you do you do that's that's the

second step, never, never, you never, you know, I'm going to do those things like the

stuff, if the day of my idea of the people and the people like the I'm going to do it's

and I'm going to get to the and then I'm even the same the same the change of the change of my question,

I'm very I'm very orguliosa of having it and very contented to have you. I think it's important. It's curious

but in the video and I talked about I'm interviewed about about it's over so on the business and you're like a

scaleer and you're, at the first you were in the first stononcito in the podcast that was the last last

with us. No, before nothing. Before nothing. Pure audio. Then you then you've

got used to some people. And then we did we did we do we're doing in line during

during the saloncit. And to go to go. Exactly. Exactly. And then at the first escalon, you know, you

were a lot of and you're going to you're going to do another scale, I'm going to do this another scale. And I'm going to do a grand

investment in a regular the job, in to get a renta much more grand. But that you're going to the scale on the

scale on and make a lot of every time. I put it as a example, but I was a, I was a year,

I was just a year and maybe you're not even you're not across. And then you're

you're not other arno with other And at the first you say, ching, I'm going to to pay those

those sweldos, because I'm going to pay the money, and all the inversion. The costos not amends the amount.

Exactly. But in that moment, you start, to sell 10, and this me permit to make to

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we're in the passillos, we're We'll hear us. Hello, Becino. And now

continue we're going to the podcast. But there are even books that you're in the

mind. Libros that are that you think you think you know, there's

about the benefits of the not to get to get to a little to get

that you don't you don't you know, it's that's not that is a

simple simply is someone is a person to have to have something

to be a what I'm what I do you and just going to the author of the

power of one or a thing that's like you that's that you can more than a new

a new thing but in the theme is that's there's there's there books

books, people, people, people, people, people, that with the

people, they're to be sure, and that also, and that's, I think it's a

part of this book or this concept that, that promote the author, that is it's

to review it, because the important is that, more than you questiones. A bit, I mean, I'm going to my house, and so I'm feeling in my house, and so I'm happy and and satisfied and tranquil? Well, yeah, because the people say, oh, yeah, why?

A me said, why don't you say, why don't you go to Monterey? Why don't you sit there? Why don't you know, despot? I don't, no, I don't have to keep always the ideas of the other,

and the, well, they do do with much carigno, many times, but I, but I remember that my kids were, and say, no, if me go to the city of Mexico, implicate that I'm

going to be here where they're going to be in the same city and in a little entire. So I think it's important that every being said very honest

not all are to do they're going, not all they're not all to do you and to be a business and there people who are people who are

just one. Yes, just one. I mean, I mean, I got a chico every, but what what was the what was the fear more

that's been to be able to in your life. In your as a movement as a woman emendent. Oh,

are many, so one one that I remember very great was that was the conference that I'm going to, but what I said your mind?

I said, one, I said that my audience were two thousand people who are, that's been heard that's a organization

of the people who's that's a education, so, so all the years has a reunion

world, in the which are various days of pure education, of pure content.

So I knew that they've heard that I've been I've been with them on the part of the public

and I had seen to the good authors, the best interviewers, the best people you can't imagine productors,

people are super interesting and then say, that I'm going to come to me, and also the people are going to do you to talk about my story of,

I'm saying, in the cochera, chat,ala. And I said, what I'm not I'm not not I'm very sure if my

story is going to inspire or if my story they're going to get a little bit like the symptom of the impostera

that in this then it was not too the word for because it's like seven years. So, no, today is it much more of,

but it was so, like, I'm sure, that my content was so valuable as well as the content of the other. And the fact, at the hour,

if you're an authentic, or authentic, and if you're parted with good, and you prepare well, we're we're going to

learn to the other, and there's there's someone there's going to be inseating to get to get to be able to

and I'm sorry, and I'm after being that's much, that's the all the pen. So I think

it's important the the, the no, the no, the no, the no,

we're going to think that we're not having podcasts or that's, or many people who are many people who are people who

have done, no, always there are many things and every one has their really,

that's a question, that's not my story, I'm going to talk to all those those

people, my story not the sufficiently good, they've had been much

I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to my pastelery in the garage of the house I'm not my story

not so much my story not my story that's too that's a fear you know what is a fear universal

to see how it a lot of and a sometimes you can't see that your story not

was part of the life you can't you can't do you not work but you can't but the only

way you you're a lot of you're a standing ovation there Felicities a

applause of a piece. We're supposed to put on you've been probably what you

would have happened is that simply have you have been that there have been that you

know, not only that your story is that is that is that you can't tell the

story. Absolutely. Because a good to stories can can't where there

where no there's you always have to tell a story he's a master of

a public, me I remember that I said, Marisa, I always talk about, platica it. Like, you know,

like, it's like, you know, the first batidora, the first wos, you're

and you know, and you know, that's another thing, you know, you know, you know, when you

talk about, you know, when you're about it's you know, if the ego is very great,

and the ego is the idea that's the that can't be super good, and that's the more

and the more and the last, the most the best, the truth is that's

that's that's the time, the sense of the time, the time,

for the podcast, for what you grabs, for what I'm like this desire to let me

see I'm to get to someone, let me get me to get us to give her to one or two persons

of those that they're not a that's called the podcast. So when your intention is honest,

positive, this, reallyarily genuinely, generous, the things are much, much better.

And when when you're honestity about you know, that's a I mean, no I don't have

no, I don't have a need to have to have a mean, I'm mean, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

I'm, I'm sure, so I'm, it's a honor to be able to you're doing because I've learned to do you

do you're going to do this thing, so there then you, so there you, know, so you know, absolutely,

and you know, and you know, that's, you know, that's, the manner in how, create sympathy

and, and the vincolus with when you connect us. When you connect, just in my book, the first chapter of my

story of my family and my father, and my father and my father, he's a man,

when I said, Marisa, when I said, when I'm, when I'm talking about problems in his house.

Marisa, also too too much a lot of you. Like I costed this job, or had this

time, or had this a badgues, so if we're never more with the ego, that you impede

to show to make your part So one of the of the claves would be, when I'm not to try to

the fear, or to be able to make more than I'm exactly. Reconnorsal. To start, so, can use the

need to be to make a effort? So, if the idea, no one of doesn't know, but if

is present, you can, or has used your mind, even like a vehicle of the

so I'm another of my other of my mind in my time was when

me invited to participate in Shartan. And I say, how I'm, what I mean? What, what I mean? What, I mean, what's a thing that do conferences and that's a

and that's a lot of an event, and another thing is that in a stand, in a set of a, a set of production, the cameras, all, and grab to those great

emperors that have years participating in Shartan. And I'm moria of fear. But I'm more of fear. But I said, because I had the

great illusion of inspiring to more women and demonstrate a type of leadership in the But you know, for what I mean? So I said,

I'm going to prepare a very well. And then I put to be a lot of many times here, the States the United, the London,

the country, and I'd not about the questions, I'd not about, the best questions, I read a book about the about how

inspire a person that's a preending, et cetera, et cetera. And so, I'm very prepared. I'm more of me of a fear, but I'm

prepared to do it. So, so you've learned in the process, better than the more than

you've never Because if I had had been given a bit of a good, I'd have said, I'm sitting here in the

chair, paint them, paint them, and you're to get them and then get them to get them to be more than

I'm sorry, I'm going to get super prepared. You're talking in a curve. So the fear can be very positive.

If you know you know you're so you're so you're going to get to and I'm

preparing me and preparing me for you to be so the the fear was neutral neither

was good or was no, and it and it's but one is the that's the

that's the thing or the that's the that's the it's the it's the it's really,

we've been in the football how many a, a team that's going going to, he's

going to go to the league and he a bigger, and he pegged a because the grandote

said, no, this these ratoncitos to me that me that's a lot of

the selection Mexican in that the world when he was, he was he was

he was he said when he's the anecdotes that the had been

that had been made women to have been made women in there's been some people people that were

those people those not even they're they're going because they're because they're because they've had been

to have been to be there to be a so you're so per you're super you're just you're just

you're just that you're that's a good example exactly I'm not you're all the right

you're all the right and I think something I'm I'll go back I'm going to go, because it's a

thing that me passionate. And I see that you also is a thing that you want to be in you know a

great and we're because we've made a lot of in some moment in the football or or exit in some program of television or

exit in some in a particular and we're I'm going to all right and I'm

not I'm going to not going to be to be a vulnerable I'm not I'm going to know this and you're

not because the problem of the ego is that you make that you don't know you're

to see more fregone, the more knows or the more able or the more capable or the more experimented.

And that's you're doing like being like, like, insensible to that all we're doing

a, so you're going to be up to a little bit of a little to say, no, I'm

sure that I'm not me had never me never been to be to be to be

to be the great, the great conferences to the those those are people, I'm a

little bit a little a little that coincidemes that you're doing in front of me

I'm sure you're going to you're going to you're going to you're going to you're going to even though I'm also my third year

to do you're also always every time I'm saying I'm going to see who's I'm going to get a little that's still

not make the the fat that's right you know we imagine we're in we're in Mexico in the

studios of the state and was in a studio Shark Tank and in the yeah in the

Djunct was the escape perfect we're we're now now

now now you Shark Tank I'm seen Shark Tank? If you know have seen it see it,

be it for a favor but it's a but it's a class, it's a it's a personal,

especially if you like, you like the best, the I can imagine the need that they're

in a party of participants before to get the time. Totally. And some some are

so they're so they're and they they say a one or two or or not they don't fluently and

they're we're saying the other I'm going to be more than you're going to not you don't you

know this moment is like you're sure you're really your tiburon you're not yeah I'm really

to be afraid to be able to so that's so I'm going to let's but it's super vulnerable because you

you're to expose your you know you're you're you're going to ask

you're so that you're not you can't be that you can't say because

you're to be not you're not you're always you they're

always they're you can you can The four you can say, I'm not just that's you know,

and it's what we do you know, and it's what you know, this, the fact is that not, and the television international.

Uh-huh. An product that's, many, many of them are the end up the and they're

and you, yeah, and your clients can be able to see, and you know, and you're

all the reason, it's a moment, very much more thanable for then they're, so they put in, oh, so, and they're all in those nervous, you're quite in the world,

your product is marvellous and your opportunity in the business is marvellous, but not you know, you know, you know, exactly, exactly. What thing?

Yeah, exactly. I had thought in this part that's so vulnerable that they're in front of us, and it's true, and there's a lot of, and there's much people that are you,

they're making like you, these jugs or these stuff, or these and they're not to be able to be you're here. You're a great opportunity.

No, you're a good much of Shark Tank on the thing of the idea, is that you have to be

a decision rapid. So at the more you say, I'm going paying many years of money and

I'm going to the 20% of my company. And I'm there, you imagine, you see, you

know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, I'm, you know, I,

know, I, know, I'm, I'm, also, I'm also, you're, you did you do you

uppegast to the number, to invent a number, 10 million of pesos, and do

the 20% and Marisa you contest. You do 10 million but I'm the 50%

of your company. And what what is? There are some some some of some there are some

good for and there some people there are some of me convienes to let's

not quite normally from we're normally from we're asking or they're to get to some of the

numbers some of the people do they're they're they're they're Others,

you can't do some call. Others are and say, no, no, no, the fear. The fear. No, no, no, no.

And no, no, no. And there's never figured for the fear, no, they're even they're even in particular,

and their offer not is so inadequate or not is too or not too much than to be to be in

their idea. Because like, I think, there's a thing, because, because, because, of course,

because, if you're you're getting 30, and you, and you don't reasonas, not you

you maintain frio, you can't do it when to happen, you know, that's a don't know,

or they're to hear the offer of the other and then you're the other you're getting like the perro of the two torts., right?-a-one. And you're going to do not. So, what I'm a lot of Shark Tank, is that you're, to put in the TV, And also in the life is

to be in frontenances to restasos and to be those people who are, I think the people who are the people who are the people are

the entrepreneurs that are they present to us, you know, that's more probable that we say, are the projects that we're not

we're doing to get us, to the time we're doing, to present us, to present them, to show us, to be vulnerable

to even to die of and receive the recastor or receive the fracaso that we could that for,

that for me not, the fact of being present in Shartang and to be in the television is a good,

it's a good, but I think is the life, and so are the and so the and the

and the people are, so you know that when you know, and when a business, will be

there's there's there's there's and you're going to you're going to these

difficulties and in your life, you're with you with your new that you're

with the if we we're going to be we're we're we're going to you're

not you so I don't you do you wait as that's not you know it's like that's no, no, no,

I'm going to my life or I'm going to whatever I'm doing this thing to do this fracos? Well, let's be that I'm going to

because I was to have to fear, because I was going to be a rechazzed or rechasado. So I think the being

that the life has good, things, things difficult, that there are moments and moments

and moments Buddhist, those philosophies more spiritual, that constantly not they're still. The life is difficult. The life is full of meads, and then when you

do they're all preempted because you're going to and that's prepared. And that we're going to to get us to move. And all this type of things that normally we don't know

not even when you talk, when you know, it's not you're surprised because you're not to happen. I said, I said, I don't ask you.

I said, I don't know. I said, I can't get to do. It's, you you want to have I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going to do you know, I'm going to rejects. Impossible. And it's very common. And you know,

I'm so I'm really that you know, because I think when we're going to start to grab the podcast,

I'd be thinking that a fear that a lot and a very strong, that's too that's tangible, but is the

fear of the fear of the fear of the that they're, and much people, for the fear of

that they're, because me juskine to mal a mom, me shugled of a male

a part of the whole of my time. I'm just they're to do you do you know

about what I'm amoe I'm going to get in my zone of conform, me get a

and I'm so I'm so I'm that I live I'm for a years. No,

you know that's a time, Al-Qaran. Al-ke- much- and I did, and

I'm and about when I when I'm when I when I'm when when I'm

angustied of what they'll be what did they're to me in the people, what did they're to me in the organizations in those people who

in the organizations, or in those they're going to me of my mom. So I'd do you know, I'm going to be the bestido the

that's a play with the pastel and with the ballo and with all to do you to get to the time?

And so it's the fear of that I'm that's the those voices exteriors, I'm to have to be

the volume and I'm to think more more than because if no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, not will be never in peace, no, and, and,

again, it's sufficient if you're, if your exit and your, uh, uh, uh,

your, uh, your life, and your satisfaction is put in the approbation of the

after, then, then you can't get to get to get to you, or you know, so,

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Visit Guadalajara. So, if you mentioned three MEDOS, that are impossible, you're going to judge, so to have

to be afraid, to, pardon, a fear, to be sure, to be sure, to do you, that's going to

be sure, that's, that will be to say things to say things that not you're to be

and you are justly, and they're going to talk like if they're all of you. Exactly.

Because so is the criticism and the chism and that's, she's how it's how it's

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and if you know You know, but establishes a whole of

my. But that's a case or see. So, okay. The rechazzo. So,

if you, someone to be rechasing your product, or will rechazer to do you to do this

your collaborator, or be to be your podcast, be your social, to be your podcast,

so- or so, you're going to be to be a fracacacacacacus? Yes, or

you, you're going to do you, you're going to be in the in the So if we're

our children, to our children, to the people who are people who are people who are we're doing this the moment that's the moment what happens

and you take it's like that something like that's like that's that's a lot and they're just they're just they're going to

launch the quet this that supposedly some day will get to a marty and he troned and he

he was celebrated like a triumpho and with millions of dollars and decences of years preparing Because they're

because they have to tronarles various cohetes to be able to a day to Mars because if no they're in that new technology

because this is the nav more great that has been launched the time and the nass and all who's no,

who's, well, yeah, it's a example. I'm very much, I'm gonna you know,

those examples most pragmatic of the world and exactly is exactly is so. If you know

you know you have to do you want to do you to learn to Marrter. If you know, I always think you know, to do you know, to do you know, to do you go,

with a, with a juger, emphaken, in this time, of a mid-liter, and the, those, the sharks, or where you go to pitcher, you say, no, the what's the vend, is what's, it's, it's a comprobate in the super. No, is that my is good in 500. No, but, no, is that my is more delicious. And it's, well, but it's that you, and that's a people that

you're in not you have to be able to get to do you know to start to listen to the

client or the other people to make a and then you to change the things. You in Shark Tank,

for example, has decided to go opportunities of the business and you say, the product

is interesting, if there's a market for that the offer that's interesting but this this cabasadura

that he's so far that's too so I'm that I'm going to do you

I'm absolutely no, I'm in the emperned also, also,

the product obviously and the number of the thing, is that the person is that the entrepreneur

me will be to be to be able to work in the people, valor the the work of the

people, I think, my questions, many are in function to know more to her or

to them, or to them, because of those are two men, or a

couple, or to be to be able to be to do you do you see your

car, a-s- -er- ar-er- a-ferrr- Aperrado, that no That's been So I'm going to pass

On one. In this Gravation, in this gravation, I'm gonna be, to hear of my and the person to say,

Maury, no, me is there's not you're not, no, no, no, not me's

listening, so he's so much I'm, so I'm, so I'm going to do things because I'm

so much years, where the person I'm talking talking with quite, I'm talking with the podcast,

no-sepa-to-the- it's a big-d-d-d-a-d-d-d- and you I said, is that that niche of the market, yeah,

yeah, yeah, that's I'm able to the business, I said, no, no,

do examples specific, because if you know, see, this, I'm doing this, this,

it's going to Europe, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This niche of the market, the more

sounded when we start up, but we're to be able, no, no, no, no, no, no,

and said, and I've done, and all, and all, we've done, and all we're, and there

and there, not because I'm a magos, if you're not you're not you're going in the market, you're going

to where the way the but the thing you're and here you do you're and you're to do you

and you're not you know you've no, there no, there was nothing that's I mean,

I'm terrible and also that's a socio that we're to try to find to who's

soci yeah yeah soci perfect. Socii that's soci that's

that's that was what was there you know, fear. Mied to not have a

reason, fear to be able to you know, to you know, that you know, that's, that's, that's farraught,

intransigente with who can't work, there's fear, there so, so you have invested,

in some of names, in some in a new business, in Shark Tank, we've, where the

business not so but you this person I'm can't work with him or

with her, is entranable, me late, It's how it works. Absolutely. Absolutely.

And how has out of that's done? For sure that's because it's that's good. because it's that it's not, for that's, and I think the value of this type of podcast that's for that for that

I'm like your podcast because I know that we can't keep us those those those people.

I'm really I'm really I'm really more to get a fear of the opinion of the other

the other I'm so it's so that me a lot until that I'm

never I'm going to love to everyone never there's there's there's

there's there's there's there's that I'm that's one is all what

what you that's has been legated, will disappear. You're going to get to get a

unethical manner, I'm going to say it's going to in a few times but I'm going to you're going to to get to beheas and then you're

to be going to be to die. It's totally certain. And then the day that I'm so the day that I'm a

very I'm because I'm I'm a I'm a courage no see what I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm

not so I'm never to do you're no, no I'm going to get to I'm not going to I'm going to have

I'm going to think I'm going to never have to have the reason. And that's not all the world will be applauding and all the world

and everyone will be not be able to be realist. It's more than to be realistic and it's going to go to get in a curve.

And you think that if you don't know you're going to go to happen like the most people. Much of

I don't do I'm I don't know I don't let go out because in that moment it's a reality.

And it's better because then just only it's going and growing and and grow up you.

Because not it's important to talk about the fear of the things. It's not that there's there's a

really little between being a positive because that's, if I'm to be a going to

money, me be with two hundred, six, scursals, look, I'm saying positive,

affirmations, and be realistic. Because you're talking to not going to go to the life, I'm going to

be to faller, I'm going to be a no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, No, for nothing. That's not that you put. No, for nothing. For nothing,

not for the intention, but I'm, to be the, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, super positive, and I'm going to be

very very, and I'm going to be able to and I'm going to love it, I'm going to get to be, and I'm going to, I'm going to be, I'm going to be

much, I'm sure, or another person, we're going to be very good with this person, because I think that one, one, you know, with the energy that

you're generating, but one, one is that, I'm going, I'm going, me will go be good but I'm

to work but I'm going to prepare me and I'm prepared and he's much more exactly that's

that's equilibrium because you're a you're a woman positive but I also know a much people,

I do with the fan of to learn I know, I know a lot of I know

that's positive and not revisa those numbers that's positive and that's positive and

not has a positive and neither doesn't know to explain what they're

to manifestar. And you say, positive, the world, the universe, no, we're going to do it,

but no is your a plan, oh, and if this is not not a plan B, and a other than you have a plan

C and a for if the three first first first falled. So that this positiveism

of a repent is a wayco like, like, like, of,

like, of motivation personal barata, yeah, I'm yeah, and,

and, yeah, and, And, also, it's like any good idea of business, while not is an issue.

And much people have a great idea and I think that with that with that's a great idea of a good or a good is to execute it.

The most important is to execute it. The most important to get to get to get to get to start to earner and reinvertit.

So, the most important is the perseverance and the constantia. But do it always with a attitude

positive. No, quehantot and renegating but chambi- and re-Negando, but chambi- chambi-a,

moving the pastels. You do your bagel your gadget new vegan without and you know

and you're very well to be very to make a marco and to all those who come

in lacteos they've been to your a day you've got you've done you've

you've talked with chefs with experts so you know not you don't how you

can't about us about that yeah yeah I'm I'm like

with the example of we we're we're we're we're

we're more more more can more canela No, I see what's that's happened. Or not even.

We're in one. It's a very very small. Exactly. It's very chiquita. It's quite darked. Keddograded. Bachera.

So, sometimes there are products that can't take six months in that can't. But, but until I

convince the 100 that's a no, you know, you know, does it. You do? You do it.

Not just a my mom because, and my mom's to make sure to try porras. If no, we have to

try to all the people that the people that the person that says, and you have to tropicalize and hear you have to hear, we have to hear,

and not like that socia that you've got, that ex-society, that you've got, that's not, that's quite that's, many times is that,

so those great fears, and that great necessity of, even that's I'm not, but never I'm going to

say that no I'm going to, that's that's putting there, so I'm that's good, until when you

you're going to ask, you, to choose a a pair of that's that I'm that's

that's flexible, that make an quest of the market no? Oh, yeah,

that's you're that's about you know? And how has been, Mark, with the other know what?

Yeah, that's your no, that's one. But no, also,

also, I'm, I'm trying, I'm, I'm I'm going to be going to do you

want to the, but I'm, because, there, there, there people, there are

people, I'm I think the matrimonial five years. Devers a an accord of five years.

I'm a case with you for five years. But the five years, if no renovated the

contract, so this would be there a lot of a new we're a so you're saying,

oh, Marisa, well, we've been three years, it's about the renovation,

count me how I'm going. I'm, I'm sort of my part of my part of

that you that you like, that's I'd I'd to hear to hear

I'm in so I'm renegotiary and it would have to have that because much people don't

because yeah yeah, I'm casse and I'm and I'm and I'm I'm arrae so you

you know you know you're not you're not you're just like for a fact like you

like something and I'm like the advantage that's poter yeah yeah yeah so yeah so

yeah so yeah so so much And then you don't to charned because you know, because you know, because you know,

because you're going to to be able to to say, and say, ah, if I'm saying, ah, si me latio, continue with you,

or no, for this and this, but if I know that they can recasasar, that they've made, I'm not, so I'm cruz

of the braus to that you're and you're gonna, and then, you're gonna be the way, because if that person

me important, and at the five years, there's me can be able there more, there more there's,

there's there's the contract And so every five years, there's a every year,

every year a new generation of a new generation of tiburoncitos and tiburonsit that are to be able to becese. This cyrenita

yeah I've seen to be a little bit of so I'm so I'm a so there's a mind, it's a idea,

it's a fear positive. Exactly. So, not have to have to have much more to have to

fear of the mind. Lettikens to your book. The ambition also, the ambition,

the ambition, too, the authenticity the generosity and the intuition as a tool to help you're in

your book, your photo precious. Tell us to your book. Ablas here about the fear?

Yes, I'm sure. I'm about all the time that's that I'm thinking my thing in the

book is a movie. It's a book written for women, but for Fortuna he has really a

people and inspired also to many people. And I'm people who people who have made

five of your books for all my team. It's super good,

me it's other. But my intention, and why I'm about the fears? Because I feel that the women, in particular, but for suppose, too, the men, the culpies and the fears, are the two situations

that more are in-prendenance, and for all, no, just, not just for the people, it's for everybody, it's for that one that's suen. And for the fear, the rechazzo, for the fear of the fracaso, for the fear of being to be different, for the fear in that your house, your papas, not

to prove, for the fear of that your partner's to moleste, for n-n-mil, No, you know what you're doing and not you're going to

the world. The fear is a different. That's a great. Uh-huh. That is one great and

I think so it's much much more. The city is the city or the population where you live is, the people

and a little. Absolutely. Because then you have to get to get to come to quite.

And how many times we do how many people do you have seen that they're doing their for the

people, for what they're saying that was a being, I'm going, to come in

committal for the mom not as not as much, not as far being a mnegas, being a present, be generous,

to care to the other, put the needs of the other before the other thanes the way, you say,

I want, I want to my needs of, I want my my time to do you my time to do that

my time for what I'm a lot of, my time, a mal, a mother, I'm a mal woman, so,

so I'm just, so, all those are, to do you, to not do, to not do, the an chos

career equivoked. We've much, for these fears Mark, we've been much in a

career in the whole I'm never a lot of I'm sure that I'm going to keep more to get more than my family

political, get well, keep well with my business, get well, and you get back in the

person, and one of the words that is the authenticity is the subtitle, because in the moment in

that you're authentic and then you're you're doing, this is what I want. If you know, but that's

that's being very, that's to be happy, you have to be very much. Sure. Because the risk is that they

expulsed to the tribe. If you know, it's more, it's more, it's more, a guarantee,

in some circles, that if you want to be different, and you're from the guacal, as we're from the

corralito, you're going to be to get to and they're to be exulses to my family or

me expulsed to my people, is one of the fears more than the the world,

absolutely. And that's something human it. It's a very, but as

Glennon Doyle that's an author American that I'm really, does it the question to deception

to the person to you know, to question to do you know, repitelah. To deception to the

other to to be to you, to which is because a someone is to get to absolutely.

Because someone if you if you know if you if you trycinous to you, you're

infiel to you exception as to you. Exactly. And at the most of the encuctor that you're doing,

that are you are very much, because they're doing what they're doing what they're doing what they're that they're working with your

father or her mom. But they're they're doing be ballerines or they're being, or work in the radio

in other other side and no, and no, and no, and they're not, and they're not, they're doing we've been to

look to look at and look at more what what each one does it. And no important that you're completely different to your family

or to your friends or to your group. Capitulo 8 in the first part says, we need to learn to say no. Decir that no. It's a fear to say that no.

Exactly. And I don't decimals, I mean, I don't think. I'm too. Because for me, one of my great retos in the life has been to teach

that no. You know, because me never a need to make a year to say, if you say, if you're saying,

oh, you're saying, oh, yeah, I said, oh, but if you didn't us help us, because no here.

Oh, but if it's always it's a time, but I'm going to be going to be

available. And then I'm going to to do you, to do you to get to to be in a lot of

to be 16, I'm going to 16, at the same time. Wow, four bankers,

so I'm going to get to all the carrier. Because, he's, how he's going to say, no,

if, and also, you're you're not Marisis, you're not, you're not in the ego and

you're not, well, wow, of the other people say to the other you say to the other times

to you know, so I'm a little bit of the whole of the whole thing you know, we're going to say that's a little, even the

people don't, to say no, even more we're to say that and say it and then to say that's all the times I'm

like like two two hours of it's that, it's that, it's not, it's not, nothing, no, no, no,

not something I'm interested to this moment, to this moment, to this moment, with education with the but at

the say to to all, there's a they're done a to expulsed to the tribe? To that

expulsed or that's or that they're to get back or to you're not to get

to do you not not not perteness that is another one of the the

the fears not I don't I'm not I'm I'm going to

get only a blah blah and you know so I'm

so I so I'm so I'm talking about that we don't know that the

When I When I started to say When I started to say No, for my grand surprise the people I respect

more. And no there's more attractive than a person authentic. And if you are authentic,

it's a that you're authentic, is much more, you're going to invite more and much more

more attractive than a person that's belete and that's all the time just trying for

for fear to the or the redhast or the getting getting better.

You're that it too is too too time to to get your times? You know

you have the control of your life? You're not to not to take up

your potential? If it's possible that your dialogue internal, is saying

the voice in your head to do you see I'm making and I

want invite to to tell you to come to come back to come to get

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Now, also it's an art. Now, to learn to communicate to form a clear,

effective, conscious because because to say that no, has a technique.

No, no, no, No, it's a no. You have to manage it to

do you know, you can't say, for example, I read like five books about how I said, the job that I'm cost about,

eh? Wow. I was mentioned in the biography because the really has been a thing in my life. I know that

I'm not. I'm not. Yes. Good. Goodsimus. Good. That's good. That's not,

no, no, not because you have you in your agenda live, for example, I mean,

I'm much to pass tars in my studio, leading, I'm I like to be trying to

to be the music classical and she was the most really to be a little a reunion or a interview

or a interviewer or a interviewer and say, well, if I'm going to say that's like no. And then it's like, no, it's

that I'm not, so it's a or that's so it's so it's a thing, so a little bit of a time, it's

a time for you, it's a time that's it's a time that's like it has been to be able to be able to be

a podcast or or whatever so. And so what you say you say you're saying, no, I've I've got a commitment. No, the compromise is with me myself. No, no, no, you need to add ties. Exactly. It's more easy to say that no, mientras less details does. Exactly.

But normally, for the fear to fall to fall, for the fear to be used to be repotent or as well, as no accessible, or as sangrona, says if you do you ask, explanations of mass, and it's necessary. And it's cultural, too. There are populations, there cultures in that they're more

a more than they're to say and there's there's where the no is super common.

The Anglo-Sahones in a Americanian's, a Canadianian a canadiance a English no is

the most normal. No. No, thanks. No, and even you say, I don't feel like it.

I don't feel like it. No, no, no, it's not a even a, even even

even a even, even even, we're all, we're we're doing, we're just, nobody,

nobody too, Oh, we've been to be a cup after the job. No, thanks. I'm going to be with my... No, no, no, no, no, no, so, no, no,

say, oh, don't, no, no, don't be, let's be, let's, let's, let's, let's, no, okay, no, I'm okay, yeah, okay, yeah.

But here, but here, oh, okay, there, I'm, there, there's, there's a little, so,

come to, not you're, not you're, not so you're, not said, let's, for this you know,

to put limit is, the difficult not is to say it. The difficult is sottener. Because there's a shantage when we're

doing it's on the other side. When one you know, you know, you're saying, oh, no

you're a lot of, that's a form of asking a thing. No, because there's a

chantage. There's a manipulation. So, then we're just we're just we're just that we're

there's there's also, because if you're not when they they're just more difficult to say

that's, because you you have that mentality of chantage, decided that no, there's a there's a there's a

and to say, and that's to get a maturice and to say, when you're when you're chantageas or when you're to try to chantage-a-

and then you get to say, that's... That's... And no, in a lot of in a tone of no, no.

Or, yeah, no, or I'm not, you know. Because, if you de tonne things, for example,

when I'm coming and me peter in a photo, in a little, if you're you're coming to ask me to see me the photo

yeah no more I can't come to take a photo but I'm I'm gonna take the photo

but once to talk a photo a little a little I know that's like I'm coming

but look who who's you're manned automatically because you're gonna

you're a photo you know I'm the photo not me I'm that I'm

so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm I'm I'm gonna take me I'm a

I'm not to take me not because it's a famous it means that I'm a little

it's so it's soo it's soo it's just it's not you know yeah, we're to be

more directs in Mexico no we're not directs and to say those things we're we're

we're justicamos no time oh my myisa a little a favor a little

a favorstito I know I'm all this no is no what we're and we

we use more the women yes the women, we're seven times

more than the other than that's just a more than a minute more than five minutes of your time, so a little

or pardon in the junta, let me, let me, let me, talk about this idea. And before to talk about,

you're you're doing it and you're there's a thing, absolutely. So, what you what you

mean, what you know, what you know, I'm, I'm just about that I'm that's a question,

that's a question, of how the women, many times in the different, we're, we don't,

we're, we're, not we're not luched for a place major or for the direction of the direction of the direction of the

direction of the people to be in the people to us a much more when, oh, how ambiciosa? Hey,

that's how you like the power? So it's like very bad seen, all this, so it's the thing,

no, me going to say that's a person, me going to say that's a credida, me going to say

I'm a maddon, me say I'm going to say I'm a bitch, that's because it's impressionate and studios

that demuctor that if you do you do the same that I'm a group with a order with a job with a order to a lot of people

normally is durisima no it's a bitch no no no no it's very ambiciosa so all that all the women us make much

many times the fear of because we don't we have many many people that have been successful before women

that were president of women that were governors of governors of government and then it's like oh I'm

going to you're going to I'm going to I think I'm I was past with you that I'm always that

I'm intervie you I'm they're they're going to my and they're

and you're so you know and your I'm the question no, I'm not you don't know

I'm not so I'm not because I'm really you're so it's but it's it's important it's

a prejuice of you ohy if you're you're so much you're not,

something you're not not you're not used you're not so all those those prejudices

us are much to be to be in the reflectors because we're

more reflectors than the women is a reality. Yes, if we're a first president of a country, is much more,

has more reflectors, a governorer, because a woman because a man has been a lot, and if someone's not, this is not well, this is a

woman, is it's a woman, the women, don't, it's that it's that the women, not, is that the women are

for this. Or the women are not not are the people, so, so there's, so there's, so there's

so this podcast I think that is more pertinent for the women, for that those, to the

of the those fears, to the people, to the way of the idea of the way of the people,

not you're in, mandals to the frugated. Exactly. To do you no. To do you. To do.

Yes. If our podcast is directed to a women of the renacimient. So,

those men abirtia, that not are the classic macho, retrograd, and that we understand

that we we're not we're not that we're that does a good so it. But we

We're talking to that market specifically. Now, that's what you said, you can't have much careful as I'm an anecdote to not also say names.

A friend, a friend, a friend, very dearida, who is directora regional of a company, a company

a very known and very great, is the only directora, is the first and unica director,

a woman, regional in that company. Dirige a state for that company. I'm,

I'm trying to be all the other are men. woman. All those are women.

His other directors regionales, all the other people, so, I'm the and me tell

anecdotes, I'm the one more that's the one more than that's, for what he's,

but he's, but I'm mean they're, I'm, but I'm really, but I'm sure, but I'm sure,

but I'm so it's because it's a month he said, he said, he's more, me, the vice president

national in all garro and he said, oh, yeah, for favor, of directors regional

of a of a very very very public so it's like yeah

imagine she's she's it's a this is a this is a we're doing this

we're we're doing this and this and this and this and this and this

and the response no is we're going to let's we're about

you just you not contract more people with the way so

despite so so so all ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. And she's all the micromanchism. Sure, that I say, that I say,

come to work with us other. Just that's just not that no more I'm not able to still the money to pay. No, but I'll say that's good that because it has to

show that we're not we're saying to show that we can't and have to put in their place to all those people. And it's a lotgirm as,

yeah. And that's the microachism, exactly. Totally. I mean, you know, because it's like,

all they're like, and as the it's like a agression profound, it's a great, super, super,

a ball of lambiscone is that they're not, they're not, they're because they're to have to be because they're because they're

and they're and they're and there there's a one way the reflectors that they're there's,

uh, there's a not a women, not a because all to be a all they're going to

be to say and they're not to get to say yeah, yeah. No, gravissimo,

gravissim, And in companies of high level. And then it's normal that the woman have a fear to be sure.

I'm more I'm still in this post in this post where I'm back to be more sure and I'm expung to

a junta where all are men and the director also and the subdirector are the men and they're going to be

to do that I'm going, better I'm better than you do you know from the the stateistic is the

85% of the people that not is a very that's not is your work.

And for so also Mexico and many many countries of Latin America have been of the 50

percent of your talent. The women is part of what I'm in my book, that we'll

let us get us to get them to do that things different. This book help to get us a

little to get us much. Much, much. You're about your family? Yes.

There was when I was when I was vulnerable that I did the question I about

about about the mindfulness of the Conscience Plenna, of the meditation,

that I know that's a part important about a part important about your work.

The first of the thing is that you're doing this. Until recet at final. At that that's the

level. The three spheres of a new final, there's one of the first time, there's a

one that's the part of the Paird with alMendras that's the recita, recetas recetes of

recitals. Cospinin Cipolverones of there's the there's there's the how

how to how to Here is a recipe. How to construct, to legate and confiare. This is the way to study with my team. Yes,

you're going to be able to. Yes. My team are almost, no, so, are pure women. Yes. You're an example.

There's an example. There's a lot. No, no, here. Here, we're not. Here,

we're not. We're not we're not. We're not this. Reto's to work with your people,

constructing your reputation. Okay. And fiatie that you're very interesting. You know, you're talking about this

about we're talking to how for meadow to that we're not doing, not we're doing you're going to you know? And I'm

in that part of the reputation, I remember, I mean, I'm talking in the book, after three years about,

ago, so four years, we're inaugurable, Our foundation, we have our foundation Marisa, that's just to work with the inequity that exist in the

negotiations, in many areas for the women, the violence, all what we're living today in our country, in Mexico. And I remember, we had two or three

months to have, we're talking, we're doing, in, prepare, in, in, launch the foundation, we did we do the way more professional,

we've done with much much of what the women we'd be able to try to, let them, a directorer professional, all,

to do it and one of of the person who was working in the council was Paola my

brother, she is a feminist super congruent and she has defended the abortion,

the decision, not the abortion but the decision to to finish to decide you what

in your body. Exactly. So she she's she's in October to have

been launched in August and in October they're and in October they're

the reasons for the reasons for the question, and I'm a person that's a other person

of the interview, I'm completely in the interview, and the questions, and the question, all they were,

they're like, so they're, they're all, they're all to do it, and at the end of the interview,

it's a interview in the radio, and then these people, that are in pro, in contra

of this and in pro to not to not have to talk us and to say that Paola

was my first one said that was my my and that was the director of the foundation, it was a matter of the foundation. And that we're a foundation,

what we're dedicated to promote the abortion. And then they, they're, they're notions of Marisa with the letters in rojo, in the same. And they're saying,

if you're compas in Marisa, your hands are going to be bashed in the same. So, soo. That's socio,

and sooce. And sooge, and so you know, so did it, no, it's allioleo. It was a lot was a lot of

very difficult. For fortune, the things came out, entro much people to defendants, because, the more we didn't even talk about that.

Don't you doves to do you need to do you? That's what they're doing. Exactly. When you're they're

when they're going to talk, they're going to make more than. Exactly. No, we did it were they're doing. I said, I don't

be to be important what they're doing the other things, even, etchandle all my intelligence, my energy, the

of the people that were going to the council, the money, all for a cause positive, that was more in our country,

in our city, first in our city, just got us, we just got to you said at the principle of the problem,

you're just going without, without ever about who are you. Simply they're so I think here and the message that's

the message that's also, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to today. And they've created a,

one, like a community, or have created a reality in the which, detrase in my

behind my page, I'm I can't, neither, even even, they can't, even even,

they're, they're, they're, they're, they're attacking and and and

and then there's if there's there's some of the that we're that we're that we're

to have to let's let's let's a little to get them in criticing and in

just that and in disbarat the people we're we're doing we're we're just

let's let's see that if not you're so you don't you don't

so you're so then I'm I'm to say to the gomom I'm

not going to not going to not going to be Because for fear, for fear, I could have said, no, just like we,

we don't get us or, yeah we're just with the foundation, or there's to say this. Yes, because it's humiliation public.

And the humiliation public is another of the great fears that the human, that we have the people, that

them are you umillian publicly. And now it's publicly that you humiliation. It's a

manita, a calumia, not like, San Pablo, I think the said that the calumner was like the

costal of plums that you can't go to every one of the people who know that's in that's not you know the article

saw that you know that's you know that you know that that's impact that no it's really no, and it's

and it's and it's an misjusto, it's a calumia and it's, but it's like to make to make

to manchart to the man to because it's part of the and it's a and it's a fear that

not we don't know that's a guarantee to the security that they're to criticize.

Algin will be a bad to you? Algin will be able to you? So is that not you

don't be inventing something? Someone will get to attack? Especially if if you're

a activist or you're to change the things, someone to be to make a lot of people,

saying a lot of people, saying, mentire, absolutely. And as it is not not,

so, for that's to get a company and they were to say, in the tele,

then, so they could be in problems legal, but in RET social,

whatever could say whatever cause. Exactly. But that the fear that's the

exact. That's the important. And that we're that we're not even even if we're things,

we're going to get to be bad. So, the more you're better than you for that's for that's,

serve the and it's that's that's not that's always and you're going to and solting and solting

and so that and you're so that's you're never so, then you're going to be going to

me going to be able to be able to me going to Are you to judge? They're going to They're going to Exactly.

That's not They're going to All the most All right of the And so is part of the life and not for that we're to get to our

heart and to do our own own and make, and I think that grand part of what I promote with my libres is, of

really that each one we create and we're just the life that we're we're going to we're feeling

satisheached and not like that's 85% that he that works without and it's

that we're that we appassion, that we do we really does, and also when the people are happy, Mark, and you

know you know and you know you know what when the people when the people do you do the thing is the where you know,

where you know, does much more, muchissimo more than if you not you feeled or accepted or accepted or you know, it's

impressive, the little we do we do when no we feel we're feeling or not we don't we're doing,

or not we're in the area that we're doing where we're going to be that's a question. I'm going to a question that's

a question that's a very interesting to see what after the pandemic where much people did you know and decided not

to go to the work and then has been back the cipher. We'll have changed, ohhala that's it. Oh,hala

that with the time, go and that the people that can't be going to be and the and the time

and go back and go and and going and going and you and going to start with those fears

Construiting the life that's really to make to feel like to get a or at the end in the night

that you go ahead and you know, you know, this problem but what's the problem, but what's the what I'm doing

do you know what I'm doing to do you do that's a person who is doing this podcast and our

people who's our people that's you know you're still that you want to you're doing

and the need to you're doing and with this podcast this platy that's identifying

that's identifying that there's to be to be I don't know if you can't do it, but simply intend it.

What is that person that's a person who is that person who is battling with your fear. And I'm going to because I'm like much to repeat

because I'm convinced that the things have to repeat to us to learn us and learn we and I'm so when I know what I'm

on a podcast I'm a lot of my copy and I'm going to my box and there in all all the world's there in all

I'm going to go to let me hear you that you know that's that you know the person who is the

that's the listening. Marco, those took, I was and that you do you get the volume to the voice

of the voice to give you. And so, that revises if that is your really, well,

it's a fear that that someone that you more of your education, for something that you

you're and you you know? And then you say, you know, you're saying you're

there's there's there, but no me going to be to find out. I'm

Moraeererer to get my first plant of production and, but I'm going to inventer. Me going to inventer. Perfect.

Marrizona. Marisa, much, much thanks. They've got the conversation with Marisa Lazo. And you know what we're doing. No. Thank you, thanks,

thank you, all the heart. Also, to go to your cincursals of gadgets and pastels, obviously, that we know,

where we can't talk about, in where we can't see, in where we can find the book, the book that's called The Ambition

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in all, and the podcast, I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm sorry, on Marisa Lazo, on official,

in Instagram, Facebook, and all. Yes, and your pastelaryas and pastelaryas, marisa. com,

and Dolceanatura. com, and Tialola, and are the three marcas that we have option veganita? Ah,

when I'm I'm, I'll... Prometo here publicly. Compromiso of Compania. That's a

that I'm going to like to make a because you're a expert in food vegan. Meterre to your group. Metser to your group there to come. I'll bet in the

next year, that's in this year, a guyeta 0% that is without sugar, without gluten and without lighties. Okay,

ideal for people. And very rich. Because it's a whole because it's all of because it's because we've done to get rid of that.

I know, but it has got to do and it has to do that it has done because of those days

that day, but the day the next not the day after the day after the problem that's more than it's because the gluten is the pigmentation.

And when you get the sugar. And the sugar he does a good thing, the sugar le decryal and the sugar is the conservator

natural for excellence. And the ingredients cost them more also. Also, it's a retort to do you do a get

a lot of, but it's but it's that even though it's not that they're going to receive very well

because there a lot of people that we want to want to come more sano or a people who have

certain conditions and that want to try to try your some people or people who are people who have used to do a condition in a good

we do you know to do that this guy. We'll giveaway. I'm a good idea. I'm just too. And we're going to giveaway with books.

We're going to with the books. We're going with the 10 books. You decide how they're going to do you want to be there.

Well, we're going to be going to do you to participate people of of America, Latin, the United,

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