El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 320 - ¿Quién elige a tu pareja?, ¿Tú o tu herida de la infancia? - Stephanie Essenfeld

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

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If I'm not so I'm to choose to the people from my people. The only person that

has to that's a limit effective, are you, I'm not they're not much.

No, me were not I'm not even was not. When you was a

time, you're not you're not even the time you're not even the word to

but one one is to have to be fear, you're going to to have to panic to be abandoned

there's there's a kind of and nobody he's committed a error I'm

human the people the people we're not you don't you you

you're to make you you're to say that's something something is the

uncertainty I'm I'm protect it's it's dangerous to

bring me another other person has a right I mean,

distress, frustration. My value is because I'm safe, because I'm sacrificial, and I'm sorry, that's a

realtor, in fact, you know, I'm going to I'm. I think all we've gone to a therapy,

in some moment the psychologist or the psychiatrist us will say, oh yeah, we have to

put us limits, the limits are sanos, limits, because there people who don't get

limits and literally it's put to put there are many limits and want to micro manage the

life and that also also it's put a person now the people who put many many times

or not put limits there's, there and all of where it comes. It's in the infancy.

In any therapy, we're going to say those famous heriders of the infancy that a

sometimes us impidens put us the limits adequate and repercut in the people that

we we're we're of the infancy that we've saned, that's not we're doing to the people that

we're going to people who a couple, super important from our and that's consequences. But also

also, it's also we have dedicated the program of today. This episode of the podcast

we're going to talk about the infancy, of the limits and about what most important is how

sanar, for that not say, hey, if you're a pair carida from

the or you have to to have to be to have to be a lot of it's been a lot of a lot of

you're in the place of the time you're not the time of the infanities of the time so it's what you're you could you're

doing this we're doing we're welcome to stephani feld that he went from us she's psychotherapist

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we'll get them. Episode 20. Production of RGL Entertainment and all his rights are reserved. And that applause is to give you the welcome to Stephanie

Essenfeld. Thank you for to be with us for taking an vanian from Miami to visit us for first best.

Bienvenida. What honor. What honor to be here with you. No, an honor for us to

have to because I think to you, you can't to talk to about the

Because it's important to have limits that's good. No, excess of limits, or absence of limits, Stephanie. Look, if no we're not we're limits, if there's like if we're just in a house that has a lot of the space, there can't be passed and can

do what it's ever in your space. If there are many very rigid, it's like if we're we're just, we're just we're just, but no there's a way, no, there's not there can't go to start. So, the limits

sanos, us help us what we need to what we need and what we need

within a space determined to make it's sure, to be able to be being,

to be authentic, to be able to bring the life that we're and we

know, and if no we we're we're we're so much we're

about to be the solutions. Exactly. How how do the way

the things. Now, we 95% of the programation that we're trying in our subconscious. The putting

us limits or not put us two comes, it's originate in the infancy. There's all. There's a we're going to

understand who we have to or who we don't we to be to be to be to make sure. And,

and so they're not those mechanisms of defense in our infancy and we're getting to the

adultes and now not we're and for that is we're that we

are here. Here I have data and very important, information important. Fickettigate that in 2021, investigators in psychology and psychiatry NERlandes

published an article that's called Atanglestart, a initial enredado. It's called the league or the chain between the infancy,

between the maltrap in the infancy and the relations as adults. And he says, surely you know you know this,

he says, after around 2,000 adults in a lapse of 12 years, fifte. A study realized to more

to 2,000 adults in 12 years, the studio confirmed that the adults with traumas infantiles tend to have

relations amorosos of a mal quality. What surprise? No, we need to a studio to

prove to do you, but it's been depression, angustia, absence of autoestim and anxiety and

severe. There in the infancy, we're mark. And obviously only we can't

attract what is similar to us if I'm not I'm so I'm so I'm I have

irides, I'm going to I'm going to my people. Exactly.

We're looking to sanar our their injuries in the adultes.

And for so much times we selects as a person, people that have

many similar to those that they have our people, we're

doing what we know we're doing, if you have a real

a man, I'm I'm a person I'm that's

incood, because it's not it It's more being comod. It's more

because it's familiar. It's what you're accustomed to, it was your reality of your life. So, to have a

little more to do it, and you're in the suffering and you are in the the luchy and in the

question, you're not you're that you've been all your life, you know, you know,

you know, you know, and for that's so sanar is so incomomod. Because

sanar means to start to start to start to come to be different.

And to form different to something that the human has much fear, that is the

uncertainty. Because if I go back to make the same errors, or me tropis

with the same pattern, or I do the same pattern, yeah I know what

what I'm going to know the future because yeah I've lived.

It's abusive or not not be abusive, yeah I've been

I've I've I'm to do. Sanar is I don't know I can't control. So, it's much more

incommon. Yes, the fantasy of the human is, I want the family and what can't control, because if I

can't control, I can't survive. So, that's something that's more beautiful, it can be more than

so I know so I'm not know this violence or these plaitos or this drama, because that's what I know.

I prefer for the familiar to the sano. Exactly. Until that to get to to be a therapy.

And for that's that's that is that to go to do sanar and and to

start to make decisions different to be able to have results different is required

of a component very important and for me of the most important that is the valentia sure.

The sanar is a sport of valiantes and to grow and transform you're

a bit because it's going to be you're to get to where you know to you're

to be to give to be to live different, to learn different and that

is completely disconocido and incommod. And you see, it's the part

incoomboa. It's very easy to point with a hand with who are the people who

are the and that we're doing a life that we want to it's, it's very

easy that and so, and so, and so, our parents have much

responsibility in the place in the time, but just the people,

the responsibilities, the the that we don't We're we're that's the

part that's a lot of that's the part that's we're doing what we're doing, what decisions we're

taking to live that that reality that we not we and if I'm so I'm

so, so from those areas, from that reality, I'm to look who

who complemented those areas? To try to try to try to to try

try to try to try, see, to try them, this is the problem.

When we're at the college, we're doing, math, chemistry, chemical, physical, all that's,

you know, not they're the most vital of the human, that is to learn to learn to

that's that part, that's the most vital, because we're always we're always not the

, instruments of communication, no, no, no, no, no, no,

the language that, Limits, I, I, I've, I've, for first

first after my postgrad of therapy and a marriage, after my

postgrader is that I learned the word at the language. So how it's possible

that a word that a relationship, not we don't we are not they're

not they're not they're so, we're trying we're we're we're using

the mechanisms of defense. Imagineate that we we're a case of

a thing and we're we're we're all one of a

house of a problem is that the things that the thing the thing that the

things that we're that we're not in we're completely dependent of the

adult. So, to those things that today no not not function in

instead of having a rabia for being being being

for example, in instead of to have to be and just

we, we we're going to start because that that

is the that was the that lives. One a one we

we can we're doing we're going to okay, it's now, it's not a

different and put some newas. Right? One new ones that are now, from the place where

we're in the present. And to we're going to have solutions. Kedens because

more a lot of the program we're to talk to do how solutionar. Incluso

if you have you have been to the person who has elected to the people

are the solutions will be the children with the infanities they're in the

solution, the solution not is divorce there's there's there's a solution

to be a problem. It's important that both are both are quite

because, that can be that can't end but there can't do you

say much so very very very very literally, that is, you know, and not sanes for the

life. No, there's a point of a place. So, if you

are to expect a to get a to get to get to get to get to the fire

artificial is because sanas. Never. No. No. No. To be the

idea not is to be that perfection to sanamos to choose a no.

The idea is, in the place where you have a place, you know,

you start to revise, and take responsibility about those things,

that I see I'm the decision, what decisions I'm to start to

take to now to be in the life that I want to live. And much

of those decisions are going to have to have to limit with the so.

So, it's no, it's, no, it's, it's a relationship or

not you, it's a relation, if it's that's able to be to be to be to

advance from a place of a conscience and not of inconscience where only you're only you're in

a relation conscientious, just the relation could be the way of the situation. If the two persons

have the conscience and if the two people say we're going to use the dolors that are

those traumas that are those the gattillos that are here in the relation we're

we're using we're all the mission is sanar And that's a relation Conscient.

So, so, so it could be sanar into the relationship. I'm

like that's to say. The idea, that's the scenario ideal is that both both are

both we're not both are not born us and we're and be to be responsible in our

actions. That's is the best for a psychotheraper of a parent. When

when they're two people comprometious is you you're putting too

too easy. Now, not always is the case. Much

cases, even to the majority, one of the person wants to

not, because not, because it is so that is the moment?

You can't you can try, you can start to start to make a

person, not when your person, not coped, that's very common. And much

times the excuse that we put us to, the other is because the other not the other

doesn't, but you don't need the other that's you can't put put limits exitos. You can't

put limits exitos without that the other the other the only person that has to

your limit, for that is you. So, then the moment that you elize, what is the

limit that I need to establishes to be to be the respect of the other,

of what that you you're trying to honor in you, you put the limit

that's there's a good, because there's a dynamic established. All the

relations are the dynamic established. It's a not a same, it's a

dynamic to be a kind of a reality, a reglas established

and you you're to get to change the rules. In psychology

we we're we're the state of homeostasis of balance right?

Here is where how we're doing, when you when you're and you're going to assume this

role that I'm assume for no a few years, the the

the vincal in crisis like so right, right, how I'm really, I'm

and I know that is one of the fear of that's that's the thing,

is that the thing, we're going to get to to the abandon, the the restas,

all the all the things. It's very important, and for this

the process of therapy is so vital, to tolerate the crisis. That's going to present to inevitably. But if I have

a lot of no, I don't want to me to the area. So, no I want to put a limit because then

me going to talk to the abandon. But no, no, I don't put a limit because I don't want to

me abandoning, because I have a lot of a lot. But if sano my error of abandon, then

then I don't have me to me abandon. Or say, it's like, in, like,

synthesized. I think the fear of the abandon, it will be to be a lot of you can't

go to and you know that one can't more than to do through the action.

One is a one of the action. No, is that you are going to to be

to be to be to put a to put a limit. No, no. No. One

sanna of the man of the action and for that therapy is

so important because you can you in all the

emotions intense that you can you that you can't

you So, so is important. But one is, of course, nobody's like the idea of that they're going to to leave.

Sure. So, if the person if you do like, if you don't like, then I'm

a solution to a problem, no, better that we'll be to say, you know, you want to

you know, that's just to have to be panic, to get a to be a panic. So,

so I'm going to do you want to to be there to be a area of abandoning. Well,

we're we're in the area of abandoning. We're in the area of abandon. And we're going to the first of the area of the aridus. Perfect. So,

one of the five arides that's a least Bordeaux in his book, in the five herities.

And, like this adult that's a adult, of this dolor intense, traumatic, that is the

abandono and the abandoner not necessarily has to have to be that person was a physical emotional.

The person is like if it's like, it's like, it's like, a mom, it's from the

infancy so we're talking basically of the care of the people, the boy,

abel, boys, boys, I'm, I'm, I'm not they're not

me talking about. It was like you invisible. Or even even when when he's a man,

so many times the parents not those parents not, the parents not they do those parents not,

they do do, or through their their own through their their people,

or simply to be a situation retodora and has a new and you have

to put the attention to that that he has a little bit certain difficulties and you have to give more the attention

so the other other his first that's a time when you when that's a person who one of the

one of the people who has has a disability or has a problem of a problem and they're all the attention

and the other other man and I say oh yeah I'm okay I mean I'm also I also I'm

so I'm because I'm saying because I say my my brother is my brotherito is my to say, and he's

call it, he's he says and he's a little and you know, and you're

not a question. And it doesn't that this this is a question that

is useful in the relation with his mom, a father, they're

in mind. So, I'm a mechanism of a defences, that is the

role of Salvador where, and there is where you is where you know, how elige

to a If I elizabeth who is a person who elizabeth who of a person that's a addiction and

need to you know, or some difficulty financial and I come from that the role of Salvador and me make 100

percent useful, create a relation completely codependient where I depend on this person because

I want to me, depend emotionally and the other person also also depends of me because I

make extremely useful for the other person. So, so it generates that relation of necessity that,

that obviously affect. Because there there no there, there is different.

There is there, there no there, there, there is a need intense to

not to not to survive without. So, me I'm so

I'm because I I'm doing, because I'm useful so when I'm used, me they're they're doing,

then I'm and I'm and I'm sorry, and then these people need to like a constant security of, no,

I'm abandoner, not you'll abandoner, not to abandoner, and for that they need to do you, more and more and more because the more

more complacent, more they sacrifice more they're more they're more they're more the other person them, they do

the validation of the thing. Valgo because I'm a little so

that's that idea that's that idea let's like to solve. If I salvo, if I'm going to solve, I'm going to find this,

yeah, it's all the carcels three times, perfect. I'll go to rehabilit. I'm going to change. And it's very hard, because if you talk to those people, and, oh, here, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no. This is

these are dynamics very common. And, um, that's we're doing not, that we're doing, but the excuse that we're metem to us to us we're

we're that's, is that I'm very good. Or I'm very good. We're

put them that tiquette and we're not that they're not they're not they're sure that

are people but they're not complacent for bond that complacens for even and not they're not

they put in limits. So if me pides, me pips, me pips, you do, I'm put,

because if I'm there are things, even for you, I'm sure that I don't know

that you or to to not me or to me or they're to be and then

I'm not those limits but I'm know that in the final I'm a lot of the thing is a

not being to be abandoned or not to be recognized to think to be good and that there's a

really because obviously the relationship that's completely disbalanceated so

so for that I always I always think reprimed there's to curiocees about

because the resentment is an indicator of that no there's exactly. Because if

if I enter to a, I'm going to see this podcast and I'm I'm going to

that person and you and you're you're hard to do you don't help you know,

we're to be curiouser not is not just not the not is the not what you

do for me for me the first is the auto-compassion is that

you can't connect with that connect with that you give the

love that you do you a friend, to that person that you am, you know, and that

if if I would be going to a situation difficult, you're there's a hand,

that's the type of that you want to you want to you can't be able to you do you

do you do that there's a there's there's a there's a and the very thing is that all that

that's that restimient is that frustration so that that frustration so not

no no the problem it's more. It's more. You know, you have two problems.

Exactly. You're one. Now, discover you've got that you've got that you've and you've used, you know,

you're just, you know, the ojo the fossa. Exactly. So, so if you were going to the first,

is how I can validate my dolor, valid that that's a problem of a space of love,

of bondad, of, me going to sustain my own. And I know that that's

sueners because not us they're not them to not the not the not used to

but I'm that you're in this podcast this podcast well if you're in the car for far

not you do but if you not stay in the car sustain your hand let's do let's do

those that we're those who are doing or operating or operating machinery perigrosa we're

those two hands and right we're right we're we're we're doing

in alt to you, I'm to me myself.

I'm to me myself. And I am able and I am able to create

a space secure to create a space secure in me to me to be

to be to be to be to start. To be see, again, take a

other way, so that's to get well, I'm I'm to me

myself. I'm to me myself and I am able and I'm

able to create a space secure. To create a space secure to

start to to start. To start to sanar. Well, so you have to

repeat many times. There's to repeat it many because

today we're in day we're in the era of the immediate and

I don't see has passed that's on Instagram and and find love property in

three paths. Very beautiful, very attractive. Probably probably he would make a click.

Well, I know. But other person and what so does it? You do? You know,

take those reds in the morning, be a spy and I know what? And you do you're

those three passes and you don't have a more and obviously

again the is, there's there, there's there So,

you're putting to the world then there's there are to be there are you

know, we're doing during all our life. So, so it is a

process. This is a process. But it has to start, you, putting

creating a space of your where you can't to be to make to talk

with a and that means, that's after having this practice that we

did you you go, you want to commit a error and you you're going to say, excuse me the

word, that idiot. No. No. No. You're going to say. But now

you're going to notar. And you can't say, okay, yeah, we're going to re-decy what

I've said. Cometed an error, I'm human. So, if you are you're able to observe the

manner as you're to do you do that a pause and re-decy there is where you

start to change to change your dialogue interior. But figure

what interesting. I've committed an error, I'm human. The beings, we're committing errors. And,

and also, I'm notating that I'm a error. Before, not I'm not. Now, I know.

I'm in the way of my salnation. I'm trying. And that is that is create a space

secure to start to start. And that space secure, where I can't

start, include the possibility to commit errors. Exactly. Because not

I'm perfect because no sano in form automatic because I'm in a podcast this idea is the principle, not the final, is the initial,

is the curiosity to start a time and if I have been a dialogue internal during years and years where I'm saying the contrary,

millions of times, millions of times, well, obviously, all saying it a part of in a podcast

not you don't you do you know, this is an idea, is the principle, is that curiosity,

that we're that we're trying or desperater in you who are you are you seeing a

little pause we've seen a first the first the first the end of you're like doing?

We're doing we're doing. Well, then you can't four erididas more. And remember

that more to talk to do that what do you do you do you do you're you're

you're going to this example the abandono you you're to do you and that you're

that you also you to be there there's there how we we can

let's start to start to start to But how to start to work with the

that's the next to we're going to the other four herders. We'll be a little pausita.

We're going to the podcast. Mark, the podcast continue to after a pause. I want to start using

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And if we see us in the passios, we'll hear us. Hello, hello, and now

continue we're on the podcast. We're talking about about the five eras of the infancia

and the consequences of the things to our little our new,

our new, Stephanie Essenfeld is with us and he's from us Miami.

You're from Venezuela, right? I'm I'm Venezuela and I'm

12 years in Miami. Caracas or of ? Caracas.

We send us a a lot of all the people of Venezuela. And to the Venezuelans that's one

for a cause, it's one of the nationalities where more people have and we're in the podcast.

The Venezuelans do you want. And we're also too, much, much. It's Mexico, States

Unites, Ecuador, Venezuela, practically in that in that order. I know we did we

do that more but we we're called to give us so much. Cretel. I'm me know.

I'm me abandon. No, no, no. Well, the eras the first, the, the erida

of abandon. Now, there are other four, for what do you say, this rechazzo, this humiliation,

this tradition, this injustice. Some other four. What do you want to? and

a... Rechaso? We can talk to do you do not the reason? No,

a bit very similar, but not the same, and, Oh, something that's

that I'm going to say, because I'm going to say, is that you can't identify with all in different

intensity. If you're there's a smoothie of your life, exactly. He said,

a me me made all the cocktail, what on? Who on? Who on? Exactly.

But, no, they did a proposal? Also. No, no, I'm not

to be a pap, mom, no we're to do us to use.

J' a, a, a, a, a, a, Judgar,

CERO. We're in compassion with us and with us. Because there's one of the phrase that I say,

I think, this also can't be in order. And say, RONATO, yeah, see what.

That's the that we're doing the more that we're and all we can't do it always.

Always. Every. Even, even, until the day that we know we're we're doing

the better that we're with the things we we're the level of the ability to do the best.

For that's that that's that's that's the I'm like I'm I'm a and it's like

to say to I'm a little bit of right he's he's over the way in where he does it's like

to do you and it's like to do you and why you do you do you do you do you know

you know but it's the same we're the same we're we're doing we're doing the

experience and and I'm just go to my father just to do that's the poor of that's the

little bit he said he said he said with GANAS here whews

to get? Totally. Becky Kennedy, a psychologist that

me that's a example, I'm you know, you know, and they

they'll let them the first in the car, a racket, a racketa, you

don't know you're you're in the court and you say, you're

the way the way in the way that you know, and the same

the final all the final, all this is emotional. When those

kids or you you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

not you know, the words to be able to communicate, that's what you're that's necessarily,

that's that's arid, our parents, our caregivers, us made up to reprimed those emotions, to be the

manner in how verifikable how transited that emotion or see what emotions we're transitando

to be to be doing it. So, so, it's, that this society is an alphabeta emotionally. And no

I can't start more of a quarter. And it's for that many today have problems in our relations, because at the final, to be able to have relations satisfactorious, we have to be able to have certain maturity and conscience emotional.

Yes. Analfabetas emotionally, emotionally alphabets financially, an alphabetes in things of money, an alphabet, the system escolar traditional, in Venezuela, in Mexico, in States

United in Ecuador not us not they're not much the things

that we need to really to get to our maximum potential. The system school

educational, was created many years, many years to create workers and and what are

in common those workers and soldiers? Obede they're in order and it

doesn't not I'm not going about the the workers and the soldier and

is your son you do a very well the education that you

did because it cackate no questiones, you know what I'm going. Now, if you're doing

this podcast, no I think is this podcast not the podcast for o'redos and soldiers, for people that people who

want to get their maximum potential. So, so it's not a casuality that I know,

to be to reactionally to the things, because never there was this class. Never,

a bit, a bit, let's be, we're, we're going to see the that not a purpose,

but that our people, we're sometimes we can care. But we're to be Who, who

that class? Well, nobody. So, I'm going like a lot of the yorona,

no? No, I don't have education. So I'm so I'm I'm sorry emotional. Totally.

So, so we're to the herida of a rechasing. No, no, I'm not the

reason I'm, the area of retchase, is when you are trying to that's a, or that person

not necessarily necessarily has to be a a good and you rechasser that's a that's

that you put you put a vulnerable and the and the vulnerability has to be able to

know and and you repeat and no not not you're you have

to learn to learn so so so so so that

that I don't I'm not I'm no I'm not going to pay accompaniment emotional when

I'm going to pass over a moment a retodor it's a a general I'm going to learn to learn to do you

have to learn and I'm going to the time to be not being able to those relationships. are that type of people that you know,

to access to them emotionally and there's like a a partet and it's for that it's

because they're really a fear of not mean there's not there not

there's a need to establish a connection emotional of so to be being

there is there but their mechanism of defense no so it's

so I to be to to you to not to be to

you to be the First. I'm protect. It's a it's a it's a

very to be it. It's a bigosit to be exactly. So,

they tenden to choose people, not always but many times tend to

to choose people that also that also not are not done not not even

emotionally not. And, no, I'm going to give that he that

she or he or he does then it's perfect. Exactly. But there's much disconnection, there's much

distance, there's much frialdda in that relation. Now, one of the things

important is, because not always they're not always they are people, that are the contrary,

that are very necessitated emotionally. And, something I always recommend in the

sessions, is that for a person that is evitative, that has the style of pego

evitative, that emotionally for that person can be a person can be a

little to open to that's a vulnerability, that connection emotional, no could have been

a pressure. So, many times we think we we're going to be to pression

to be to express to express to pressioners to and that is the

only that is that is that is that no, no, no, no, alerta

roger for all parts. So, so what we can is, more

well, darles the liberty, that that that they need to

and they're and they're a little, while they're going to share you,

you create that you create that no there's there's no way that's

what most it's that's because it has to the trauma of infancy.

It has to be validation. If you're saying, I'm this

way, that could pass, that a repose that's that's a lot

that's a common but it's a biggah a yeah, I'm

a yeah, in instead of it's to be not the you're

to be a lot that's it's that's the typical that's the invalidation

emotional is he has a thing he has to part to feel if a

person when a person usually not usually not parted it's like

you know what's what's what's what's what's How does it respond? Or it has to solution.

It's a solution. It's a lot of person needs. It's validation. It's a space and it's wow. Thank you for me.

You want to tell me more? No. Wow, thanks. That's, that's, so you should be to be

every day. Ah, oh, that, oh, that's, oh, oh,

man, so, five, five years of five, five, five,

Basta, a way, a miracle, thank you God. This is the passive-agressivity. What I've

to show, Marko, is passive-agressivity. Oh, I've got a experience great in those things.

I'm here. Oh, yeah, let me, I'll be to, let's do the class. You do the class.

I'm, you know, I'm a little, and I'm, you know, you're going to do you're going to

do you're going to never. I'm never never you never. How? How did you well?

Well, how? How? How? So, tell me. So, it's, the day of the miracle, what's the

miracle, the man will be to talk. Well, well, well, so, more or less.

Mose or less. More or less. Well, in general. Well, well,

more or less. Quintam, me, me, you'd, me, I'd like, to be

to hear about, I'm a minute, I'm a bit, I'm a frustrated, but that's so,

so, so, so, so, so, Frustra. If you see in the car that

is frustrated. You've a day a redator? All those the days are retoders. But this in

particular you think was more Mm-hmm. Tue a discussion in the work.

Wow. A discussion with who? With who? With who? With my hefe? With your

jeff? What what did? It's a despotar, no know,

know, you know, and always is a more, and he's a lot of

and you know, so, but it's all good, it's all all right. Hey, this,

what, we're going, we're going to go. Thank you. Thank you, I'm really, no,

me imagine what is to have a head, that has a type of attitudes. Yeah,

if you can't, we can't send out, and if you want to to be talking about.

I don't, I want to want to no, thanks for, for, for, I'm

a count of, I'm no, no, there's no, there's a

car in the car, here, I'm oh, oh, oh, oh, I,

do you know, that, that's, you've been, you know, all the days,

so, so, so, so, and, and, and, and,

they, and, and this is, the, this, it's, the,

the, this is, the, I'm, I, , with 21 techniques of assertivity,

so I can share. We'll give the league and we'll put them the technique spejo. And basically

is repeat what the other person you know, and thinker you're in the post of that person,

how you see when you do you do another person to do it's to get back. Me

heard. Because we've in a society where it's easy to feel to hearse heard

and the people pay for to feel to be heard of

the and then today in day in therapy so when you have

a conversation and you and your wife you do you do you see

you know, and that you are in a other person to be listening and is

an invitation to get a more. And not only only

you didn't what I was you're with the technique of the

technique of to be to talk more. Exactly. It's very important. And that's, and that part not repeated,

but could you say it? No, you want to say, no. No. No. Okay. If in

some moment you want to talk, here's perfect. But then that's, I feel

an alibi because you know, you respect that's the limit, there's a limit,

that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm not want to live in this day, what I'm

just, just get to get to get to let's to be a other other

other I'm going to a session of therapy right. Exactly. And I'm going to

do you know what I'm doing. If you did you not only the need the need to

the need to not the need to that's and I know, I'm here my process.

And if I don't want to talk, no, I don't want. And then the information

that I hear you do you? No, I'm that. And that I said,

no because they said, that no. But what information? Acquarensse, there's something that's called the metacomunication. And there's the information

that we're in fact to the words, but also is what we're what we're trying at level of who am I for you. So, all this,

that we've got to actual, I'm ready for Oscar. That's... The information that I gave to Marko is, I'm a space

sure. And if you get to you get to share more in a future, I don't to have to be able

to give more than you're to be able to be able to do you. I'm going to to be able

to be to look at you know to be to be to listen that. That's

all. Yes. That's that. We're we're just we're we're talking

no, it's not we're not going to have to resisted the tentation

because I'm I'm I want to Arrigal I'll say what I do you have

to do do you know a little I'm going to hear of a smile, the life is positive to come and

to you know, no no no, shh hey, resist to your barbara of regil

internal, tell more more later, more later. And if that person I,

I, in this case in the actuation, if I have the end of abandono and

I want to be your salvation who for so it's

so it's important to understand this concept. Because if I'm conscious of

my patron, I'm I'm able observe and not reaction to him. Because there a difference

very great. Between an a think a in English called an

urge. An urgency a necessity, a necessity to act to act to a

action. There's an space. There's an urgency or the

impulse and the action. And there it's my the author is excellent. An author that

is an author that is that. In that is our power to change the direction of our history.

Yes, that's the space is the conscience. In the space that there's, it's a thing, and

no reaction I, I have the possibility of not react to, there's the conscience. Exactly. Well,

that's, more than who has been the budism, this is, uh, no,

he said it. It's, it's, is, this, the The sabidurian ancestral. That is the conscience.

Exactly. That's if you, I go, if you, I don't know, all the great masters spirituals have shown that if you,

for example, for who can't say, for example, for you know, is Christian or Catholic, if you read the episodes where they were

to come to the Christ and they said, you said, you're a child. And there's a place,

he said, you know, no. No, he's got, no, no, there's there's a

grand ensnance. The case, the same the church not we're not

not the but there is just what you are just what you're in the Judaism, in the

Hinduism in the Buddhism in the religions, in all the religions, it's like this

this sabidurial of not you have to respond no I have to reactionar I'm

my independence my liber albedri and I can't respire to

and not respond or simply say you you know I don't did that and for

that's very important think if I do I do I do

my impulse me will to get to my objective or me go to

my idea of my intention in this practice and if my intention is having

a a relation a so then then then not

not just not so how it's so Marko said Christo

he said you you know you know you now you you know

you you you you you're you you're you

the intention the neutrality, the absence of the juice, that's that. I don't, I don't,

I don't, I don't say that. You know, you know, I mentioned to already, but I don't say that.

Versus the other, no, that's more being, education of telenovela, that no no sir,

we'll see a pauseita. When we reese, we're going to we're back we're three years of

the infancy. It's that one's could be a a documental, a podcast, a podcast, a podcast,

no, the humiliation, the tradition, and the injustice. But, before I go, before I'm going to the public, how many of you think you're thinking that when Stephanie was talking

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on the podcast. We're back. Stephanie S.M. Felt. We've talked of two eras of the infancy, the rechazo, and

how can make it make. We're not three. We're still in the recta final of the podcast and we

we're going to do the questions, hacks, of what to do you know that I

I'm going to I'm a my wife I'm a I'm a I'm a whatever I'm I'm a

that I'm like I'm there's of a solution and what's the questions but we're going to let's

let's get to let's get let's make a third because we we're going we're gocised in each one

of the one of the third erita is the humiliation. How's present this erita? How reprecute

the erita of the infancy of the humiliation? Here probably You've never been

ridiculized in the infancy be your your body, your opinion, your manner

to talk, your manner to think, your preference sexual. Your preference sexual. Your not

in the college. And... Your religion, your color of your color of

your nationality. Exactly. And you do you do it's a very Trista this

area because you start you feel you merceder of this

type of that's so it says that as you the area the

abandono create this role of this this her

this role is of masochism so so these are

these are these are usually not always that prefer

they are ridiculis to say to before that you

umyels. They're those are the are that are the they're always they're they're

and they're I'm I'm going to I'm I'm sure check check check check see that's

a little a little I'm a little I'm a little bit so I'm so on

so I'm so far so I'm so much so you know so much you all over but it

but it's but I'm so you I'm burrow of my naris. Yes, a

point? No, and that's a mechanism of supervivency. It's a mechanism to defense

totally. And what what? These people tend are, they can go to

two sides. One is the complacency because not they don't be

mercedores, not they're not they're not they're and and the other is

to choose people that those ridiculis to to them.

Other possibility is that they'll choose all the contrary, that are people that are the constant of validation. The extremes. The extrems.

Oh, your naris too monitae, and thanks. Exactly. And the reverse. Yeah. So, so

here, there's to be being, to be sure of if this mechanism is something

is something that really do you do you do you, if you is a portando, if you

are irying and how you'd try this this pattern. And the retort here is

that, remember we that all we're all we our identity. And the most difficult to sanar is

that's that and the entity not the identity not the is the

real. It's what you create that you're a personer or you wrote you are the

person who is a personage but not the Belda. No is the

belad. No, the belda. It's a belda. It's a story. It's a

story, literal. So, sanar is very retador because a right of this

identity, you construised you, that, that's that they just asked

for this identity. Or not necessarily they just didn't necessarily you're

so that so that really to get to constantly attract to

certain characters. Yes. So, So, to humiliation to you

mean to mean you a possibility that you're that's people that are that's a time,

they're going. And if apart I've got a way of abandon, no, you know,

no, no, no, no, no. Two smoothies of hered of infancy to get, for favor,

for favor, with all. Exactly. So, one of the things that I work

much, food of students is that idea of not definite to put to putt to putt

to get to get to get to so so I'm to make to do an exercise

and those they can make you they're to write all the etiquette

that you see examples of the examples of the I'm let's

let's let's oh damn it no no let's I'm I'm

I'm sensible is an It's an etiquette. It's an etiquette. Okay. So, me they've got from

a little. Okay. The sensibility me quitted me because when me said, you're sensible, no, they're

like, what sensible you're, that's, how simple, you're a supertable, he'd be able to

be so sensible. So, then I'm I'm through to that that for for, for you,

to be supportive, accepted, I, to diminish my sensibility. No, I'm,

no, I'm, no, but my sensibility is part of me. I mean, I know, I'm not see

with that sensibility. There's there's people who are people who are people who are not

so sensible. So, in a way to put me that's a tiquely, I'm transform a

I, I have the capacity to feel emotions more intensely. Imagine

that Beethoven he would have been said, ah, you are Oh, no, if I'm

not, if I'm not, no. Sure, because all the characteristics that we have have those aspects light and those aspects sombre.

But you know, canalisal, for example, in the music, is a way. Exactly. It's a form. No, and the

sensibility not bad. No, no more, we have to learn to get to get to learn to

get to to know, I'm just to say, I'm today, I'm glad for my sensitivity. I don't

would be here with you if I was not were sensitive. Sure. But that's the idea with the etiquette

is to grab and transform them, of I'm sorry to I'm not the etiquette I have the

capacity, I have tendency to people, for example desordinated, I have I have a

not prioritized that the things are in their place. And we could we adderger

something we'd say to say until the moment I've been

the tendency to not order the because after the moment

it means that I'm changing or I can change or I can't or I can't change.

And the change has to come to be or not my function or no me function? I don't work to make

the things regas? Sure. My function or no it works ridiculize ridiculisarm.

Now, it's the ego, to the ego, but to the life that I want to live,

to the type of relations that I want to create, to the way I want to

feel in a world social, no me is The ego is what

is what we to survive in this planet in this life so the ego needs to the ego needs the ego is the

love in the characters because all you can be predictable and manageable The ego is what we to survive

in some moment So right so right I'm not my apporting me a my help to live the

life that I want to do you not me does what I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm

you can't transformer if you're meted in a car for the so you have to

to get to you have to give the welcome to say, I know who I'm going to and I'm going to

start to discover who I'm going to start who and it's not not to know who's it. And it's well not

know what is my mission. And it's not to know to know to what I'm going to do you know

that's I'm not the uncertainty. Exactly. A lego no he doesn't because no because no

I'm saying how I'm what I'm what I do what I'm what I'm do? I'm not I'm

Well, is the voice-cissita. That's the ego. For that I always I always say, no procrastin, you know, have to put limits with

you know procrastin the therapy, no procrastinens the programs of well- that know because for the

ego, it's going to procrastinate. The ego not going to get to get you because they're

going to do you're and the ego and the end up and the no. And when they're

they're, umah, me's you're you're you're I want to I want to

I'm going to see that podcast it's a car it's a song of a

sure in conscience in conscience I'm in a I'm not I'm not he doesn't

in the lego no he doesn't a good a lego no a good a good a podcast where we're

talking to that we're at least that that you go that

you go ahead that's he does listen to the same podcast and you want to

more than that person. There is the ego spiritual. Let me, you know, I mean, I tell me, I think I'm, you know, I'm, and I'm

show the five herities of infancy. Sure. I'm, I'm, you make, the podcast of Mark, the Aislin, the,

the, they're all, they're gonna do , the, all the podcasts, me, all the podcast, me know,

I'm gonna say. You know, I'm gonna say, how sanar. You know, I'll give five passes that I've learned,

because, look, mm, mm, mm, Alvador. You're a irida

of humiliation. Mm-hmm. Yes. You. Because the problem is you. Sure. If the ego

spiritual, is when you're doing yoga, and you're doing yoga and you, no, I'm, no, I'm not,

I'm going to do you. So, I'm more compasible than you. That's notricer we're going. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Well, herida of tradition. How is the idea of tradition? Consequences of the erie of tradition?

Here is when you confiababas much in those people, in those and the

repent you're a bit of or you were because you're because they said they

were a certain type of person and you did you know, after they had those

in a pedestal that that not they're that they're saying something

or they're saying other thing and and they were and they're

they're they're they're not Count? Yes, it's much

with the parents that they're going to do you in your in your

game to do I'm in the same promise and they were to be the not

not get, or the infidelity of the parents when they were

much infidelity in the parents all that create a

mechanism of a defense that is for me of the

most retowers to the If I have control and I have power and I'm constantly and I'm stilling that I can't manage, that I have complete control over your life, and what you do you do is, me protect to be a setaried.

So the, the vinclusive for them is a person that they can control. It's the complacent. It's the person that has fear to the abandon. Sure. If you have a fear to the abandon, and if you have this way to complacent,

of satisfacetive. My necessities. If you not you not you know you are the person perfect for me

because I can't control. I don't I'm going to abandoner, I guarantee that I will be able to

you're going to bedecer. Exactly. You have to bedecer. No. No. My

heart is that was he... No, to be they're going to be saying to

becky repitient literally you have to be said you can be able to you're going

with their actions. There's much manipulation in this role there's much manipulation. What is

the manipulation? The manipulation is an intent of control with certain words or certain like,

like what is me, let me, control me. Before I to tell you it's not to let's say

but before I do you are two sensations that I want to you're

doing what you want what are those two sensations? fear and and culpa.

If I can say something for you see a fear and then you will be to

you're going to the way I want to you're going to what you know what the worda the adjective

of this type of person the narcissist is what is a narcissist is what a narcissist is expert on

that but no necessity is a narcissist to be you can't have to have patterns narcissists

also. The majority of the people in this world have been, here nobody, here, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

But, so, we know, we know certain of those patterns and part of those patterns is the ability to manipulate

and it's a matter inconscient. The majority of the times. Since, the child, you know, exactly.

My perro me manipula. My perro put in the car and I, oh, I'm, oh,

because we're to learn things to and if not you those you don't the Pids direct and

logas do you do you do your objective, then the ego also, then the ego

learn to learn the right. And the manipulation is one of the barrenas

important in the possibility to put a limit because I know, because I

have taken the course of the limits and you put in the you're you're

my mom I'm you're my mom okay after my my gita

let me let me let me let me let me my my life entire, my my

health, my time, my time, I've cuted the food of the book for

alimentar to my wife, you're going to you're going so much. It's really, it's

really, it's really, me changed to eat to eat to eat, I'm never,

I'm going to go. I'm I'm I'm made made my my life.

I'm I'm I'm made my life for you, but but,

but no, because who can who can't be I'm just I'm I'm

I'm just only for you, and now you're going to abandoner? That's a retort, in

that you didn't not to to get to for me. The fact is that I'm would have

so much, if I would have said to be both and probably you've said that you

have said that you know, so now now I'm now. Now, I'm an

stupied and guys, eh, and wapos wapos, who, there were one,

but, but, but, but now, now, now, now,

now, No, no, it's fine. Not you're going to do you're going to because I'm a stupid. It's the cold. It's the cold. It's all right, my hitha.

It's the, you know, your psychology and your podcasts, those that are you doing. I don't know where there. But, look, there's a God.

There's a God. There's a God. There's a God. There's a God. There's a lot of your life. I'm going to you're going to be

because you're because you're going. You're, so you're talking? Me, you're just going. Stephanie, me is just

just going to be I'm very grateful. Valor also I do I know. And at the same

time I'm this a set that I'm to get to get to get to get and it's

good and it is well. It's good so well I'm here I'm okay and I'm

and I'm and so and it's and it's and so I say what you do you're

to do you to put a limit so need so this not this not is the

situation with my mom mommy and I'm I'm I'm not I'm not

I'm not no, no more reaction I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like you

know you're not you're not that's my case. But, there are two things

that we're making this this scenario magistral that's I'm just to be

your mother. Me I was me I'm I'm very

diso I'm I'm put you I put you my When you have your

tussiresses you need to be a mother you know, I'm doing I'm a little bit in one of my specialities.

It's good it's a therapeutic, it's really, it's a word to be able to do you get a

right at the podcast here all you are all to be there's a all the world you're

to have to have to have to be but well, it's between the humor and

the yanto there's there's because I'm just trying to say something.

You're saying yeah yeah yeah but No, what I wanted to say is that there's two components important that are that's used to lead to

the impugue of your limits. When you put limits, usually when they're people that are people that want the power and the control, as this person, it's very important that you have these two components. Validation, limits.

Validation, limits. Validation, limits. And no, to convert it another technique of communication assertive

in a disc rulled literally let's let's go a car a disc

ralliating if I have to express my limit 10 times I'm

going to express until to be to express because I'm not the

decision, I can't you know the amount of the other person the other person has

a right to feel ira, trestice, frustration, how so Juanita, if you're doing what I'm

doing the 20 years, you're going to a day to your 20 years and you're to say, you're going to

do you like so? How so? So, validation of that frustration, of that intensity

emotional that's living your partner, your mom, any person that no is that's care

to accept your limit, that's it's, it's, It's good that you don't understand it's

that's frustrated. I see that you're going to generate a tristesse that not going to pass the Naviadas

with you, and all the same time, this is what I want to do this is what I need to this is what

I'm with what I'm with you and that's you're going to do validas you're going to

do you do not just not simply validar I'm the example of the year of

the year or the year I'm I don't know much that you feel like you feel as so you're going to

You can't say, I'm doing to be able to see. I'm doing to be able to see.

Sin however, I'm going to be to be able to this Christmas. Because it's what we've

decided as what we're that we're that we're doing. And I'm my intention that I'm

I'm, but I'm going to do you know. How is it is and you amas? I'm can't

you can't you can't you know I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm here do you

do you understand to do that you know, there's not a form in that they're trying to getcha.

They're and you don't those are getting to be getting your reaction. Because one

one thing that's much in this process of limits is you can put a bravo

with me and then you're you're you're to start to the other

person if you get to you're you're you're not you not.

No, is luchar is valid. No, you're the last the infancy, the injustice.

That injustice are, mehita. What injustice is? It's that is that's a smooth and

they're all just a lot of injustice You know injustice You know, you know, when you're

a question You're in many people They're They're They're They're Or they're

Some certain situations That, like, like, for example, that you did you

something, that you did you something and your parents not they're not they

they're or of you're not you're for those cuitors

that of a sudden there was a type of abuse and nobody you

and nobody you and what what's what people is that first

they're that first people very very perfectionist it's like they have to

make perfect and to make the perfect and not to make error

errors for that so that so not for that's not for

that they're for that me treat them and for that not so commit a other

injustice and the other thing. And the other thing is that they're being being

people who are people who are they're that they're that are living injustices to save those of

that of the abandoner. Exactly. Ah, and they are allas. Yeah,

a smooty. Fikate that we're going to let's let's be that we're just about

because no, one, is that is that's, is it common that's super common. Because they're one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one,

my, my, my mom, so, my mom, so, my mom's, my mom, and my mom, she was, she was,

she cast, with, the, she was, my mom, he was, because he saw, he got, he got,

he got, he got, he, he said, and then they they'd be in Tijuana, and they, they'd

They got to get a and no they said never never he's never he

never he's never and they're never and they're so I'm feel like the life with the

other children so I'm not there no humiliation tradition and just

just in that pure anecdote and I I'm I'm because

no they're not they're they're they they're so

pardon Rulahel and Jorge for having those just well

you you're you you're that you you want to you want to you want to

you want to you know, and that you know, and that's that's a vulnerable, well,

how? For that's that's that's not the other people have your injuries,

every person has a mechanism of defense and if a person not is putting a

having a relation and comprometer's with the repent has been he's and he

doesn't know that's not even that he's so don't

take the personal no doesn't no doesn't No,

you know, and this person, the that's not, you think, that's the

way, it's where it's where the compassion, the conscience, the compassion, and that space of

that I'm saying, or this person at that I'm just doing, like, this is,

that's, like, has, the end, the life, the end,

not one, the five, and not that's, and it's for that for that.

And the compassion, no, no, no, so, don't, so,

are things very different, You can't really be compassionate with a person and understand where you're to find a

pattern of control, of manipulation, of what and at the same time, establishes limits.

So, for that's that the sanation not comes to try to change to the other.

The sanation comes to responsibility to your life. Sure. To start

with you. And that doesn't question to start the podcast. How they're

the parents that's found wow, Stephanie you I was

I'm from my and you you, I'm from your because you know, we

we're doing we're doing. How do we do? No, no, because the tendency is, ah,

I'm going to look to get a person and what's is that is that is that

is that is the story with other personage. They can they're working in

a team. The idea with a idea with a part of is that can

be part of the same equipment. And that when there's conflict, that usually with all these eras, tend to have conflict, what happens with the conflict, is that's that you're the enemy. And now, you're

the enemy. So, mutuament, they're in kind of the enemy. One of the things that I recommend is that when it's sucea that, to be a certain, and verbalize, you and you are part of the same team, leading

with this problem. So, no is that you are the problem. So, no is that you you are the problem or I am the problem is that you and I'm doing we're

dealing with this problem externalize the problem and turn to us and see the problem like an

entity external. No, you're, no, no, no. We're we're just, we're we're doing,

we're doing, we're doing, we're we're doing, exactly, there's a question of here has to

very curiosity genuine, much curiosity genuine, questions, validation, validation,

the technique of the spejo, Mediante that conversation, you start to understand that you

think that you think that was going, no has nothing to be with what is the

thing that is of the things most spectacular that are when you are able

to put the ego al-al and to bring to the curiosity to to

hear the question amoros of your person, of the why is the

part that's vice versa. So, curiosity. Curiosity. So, so from there,

that they're to talk things more sensible, more vulnerable, and for that that's, I'll say,

I'll have to exist a space secure, zero-juice, we can't make the decision to

create accrued that that word is vital. It's that's what, what accrues

we have to generate together to to feel us sure in the relation.

Okay? So, for example, patron evitative, I need that if you need to

you know time to do you respect, that's that's a accord. Okay, goodissimo.

If we're in a conflict and you need a pause, of a repose, we can

think in a word that that that is a word we need a

pause. Cueba. Perfect. Cueba. Cueba, Cueba, Cueba, Cueba, Cueba, Cueba, and basically, you know, perfect. If I have the pattern, if I have abandoned, I feel like to abandoning, I'm abandoning, to a repent, I need more words of security

of your part, for I feel that, a person, to be able to take your time to solos, no me will abandoning. And you still, you're committed with the relation. Yeah. So, of a repent, a Accuardo, my life, me going to

take a pause of two hours, that is another accord, not simply say, we're going to take a pause, because the

pause will be going to be going to be two hours, we're going to take five hours, what that's

that is defined for that the person that has been a abandon, have the tranquillity that will

occurrary a conversation reparator after the five hours. Yes, but we've been not about

to be what's what's abandon. So, so an accord can be, we're going to

take the pause, we're going to talk about in this. That's, for the person that has me

to have the abandon, is, who, so, like, like the radio, like the a radio,

like the one of the this relationship is putting very rispida, this conversation I'm just,

a pauseita, continue to the pause. So, but I'm going to go to That's in form a conscientious, because

many people take the pause with the amante, with the amante, and say, a pause, a minute, I'm going to be a pause, and you have to be two problems. You know,

you've got to be with another person, now you have two problems. Exactly. And that's, manage the things in form inconscientet. Exactly.

I have a master class Yeah, recommend it. A master class spectacular. It's been a lot of five,000

people around the world. It's called the seven Regals of Oro for that a

relation, functions. Spectacular, jen of examples. I recommend that they see it.

If they're having a same, if they're in the same, see them the time.

In where we we're doing my profile to Instagram is more

pass mental, so my profile atroba more path mental in

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with the word relation. Okay, with accent, without

I don't know. I put the word of relation and it's a very much that's very well

so you're then. So, take it's lookenla, look at hour and and I

sure that the, the claves, all the strategies that I'm going to give there more

the examples and they're to change your relation. So so a more

pass mental. In Instagram? In Instagram. And there you can continue.

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return of parishes. The fact is that we have much resources spectacular to continue

this process of sanation and that be effective. All, we want to be able with a

peace mental, both we want to do this of times we don't know how, how I've got that I'm trying to this conversation

retodora, how transit my emotions incommod, how I do to leave the ego to a little so it's very very beautiful

to say it, but how do you do that I offer you in the different spaces. Manavios. I thank you much that you

have been from all the people that's to talk and that you have to keep talking and to help to do you

to do this all Venezuela, with much, much, much, much, carino. I'm the first of many

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