El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 321 - Sana los acuerdos invisibles de tu familia - Anamar Orihuela

Episode Date: May 6, 2024

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Issa Business Centers, Spacios of Work, that you help in the business and the abuela,

the bared, obviously, it's a woman who's a new- and the nietta and the bidsnieta and she prostit

to do you. A hour to do a therapy with her and we did it was an

alliance with the women of the families. What are the the

people are the realties families? All the families have they have contracts

and not verbales. Nobody says They're established. In this family, the women

not confiamos in the family. In this family, nobody is exitoso economically. All this is inconscient.

Nobody knows that it's doing. And in the regular no-verbal is a always a alliance with the pain, the

carencia, is an alliance with what the system no has. That's very very strong. There's

there. There's experience of patients that I have taken that I'm still that I'm feel to

my mom. I mean, you can't have a relation because you have a relation

with a Subo to his his his level and he put to his wife

and a his wife to compete. So, so here nobody is always our

alliances, the reglas verbales are memorisated in the memory of

our memory of the episode of today has a very, very, very, very interesting

that has to be with secretes familyaries, with sombras with

traumas that were not in our life, but we're heredamos, is

that's the abuela, of mom, papal, abelos, tatarabuelos, we're not

only only the color of the color of the color of the color of the people,

but we're not, they've especially if not those resolved they're

in our lives, they can present in two, three generations after.

That's just sometimes sombras families, or secretes familyars or accuards not

verbales that's established to be be very interesting the theme, because they present them, is that's

for example, someone in the family, he prostitue, someone in the family, killed a person, someone in the

family, triedioned, violo, abused of someone, but it was a secret because it was

a verygues to be that so. So, although the children don't know, the niets

not know, the bidsnietos not know, can repeat a pattern of conducta of something that we don't even

know that what's it's interesting the time no? And obviously we're going to talk to

how sonar it for that's we're going to get a podcast Annamar Origuela psychotherapata tallyerista conferencist

a crator of the method era with more of 15 years dedicated to the study of the mental

humana expert in our children in our motherosa bella intelligent a time

through his consults of his conferences has given to millions and of people to to sanar

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Anamar Origuela, what good to get to get to the podcast. Ah, the good,

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and I'm sorry that this episode is equal to sanator that's that that give to the reasons of those

the people we we've been and that we don't understand we're not a lot of what I've given and what

I can't can't but this of the rules no verbal is that's establishes

in family the secretos family the matrimonios energetic that's super

interesting the thing, Namar. It's very important and is that really it's quite it's

that we're not we're individuals, or so that in reality we're part of a system

a living, our family, our families, our those generations that we are,

it's a system a system we're part of this system and many of the things

that today we're doing, we're in, we're doing as part of the herency of the system and as well

we're just not only we're done the eyes and oh, is that it's that the surprise,

the kind of that's a form of about of the abuel that you know,

there are there who there are even who know even who even who even who not lived

with their father and they have a series of the comportments of this herencia. So we're part

of a grand arbor, of a system and we have to investigate and be curious of what happened there.

The people indigernas when they're their their antepasasas are like God and they're resan

to the abelos to the mother, a vuel, they're they're asking to do

his antipasasas they do they they're they're a energy that is alive in the

present. Totally. So, really, there many cultures, no, in Japan, there are many cultures that have just this

conscience, to honor to the old people, to know their history. I've always thought,

how little and that would be that we'd would be that we'd know what what was in the history

of our ancestors. Because not have no doubt that we all we're reproducing that history,

those dolors, those nudes, and that we need we start we start investigating, always, to know,

and the fact that's that this is so this is too there's just there's many things. Why not we

start with this what are the the lealtities or the contracts invisible that's or the regulations,

nobody's says, but they're so, but you can't do those the families They have

contracts and regals no verbales. So, so, some situations, for example, in this

family, the women, we're not confiamos in the women, we're not,

we're, we're we're, we're not, we're not, we're, we're

we're just, we're, we're, in this family, nobody is exitoso economically

all, we, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're indeutados. In this family,

the, the men are the 30 years. Uh-huh. So, there are many, there are many, even when we're, famous,

like the, or, or, stories of, of persons that there's a real no-verbal, and it's a

situation where this in the system, no pass. Uh-huh. In the system, no, there's

abundance, in the system, the, the, the, the women are, are the women are

not confian in the women are they're not or they're or they're or they're or they're

in this family we we're in this family we're the infirmat is as part of the not of and that

this is not you don't you don't you in the family you no you don't you're not

you're going to you're you're you you try in your inconsiente an alliance with that's system of these

women, for example, that were violented? How, how many women were women we've been in families where

there was much violence? And today, you, for example, maybe not you're not the woman

violentada, but if you say, the regal is, I don't to permit, I mean, to me,

not to be to be a violentar, I'm going to be a violentator, because I want to

be part of my abuela, of my mother, who were they've been there's

a violentatoras so I will be to reproduce that I'm not know I'm not

I'm know how I'm my regal no-verbal I'm I'm

a regular no verbal with the women of my lineage or

with the men the men the men people

we're all we're we're in our masculinity we're

we're not we're controlled by the women so

here we we triarched. And you, of a repent, you can represent the obeja negra of the family, because,

this is a personage very interesting in systems. The oveja is that the person that represents something that is a problem. So, how?

You, you're going to be exitoso economically? How? You if you're going to have a family? A bit, no.

You, who you think is that is, no? Or, that represents the negated of the system. Here,

we're disciplined, we're perfectionists, and the Obeja Negra is the artist

destructurated, that no be deseclure the reglas, that is chaotic. So, really,

all we're we're representing a paper in the system. We're part of a system

and we serve to the rules no verbales of this system, of what

has been permitted, of the things that have done, of the those nudes that have, that's been there, of the nudes of the dolor that's been trapped, traumatizing our

system, because just in the chapter earlier, we about the areas, the areas of the individual, these dolores that have in the body, these, those

have to be at level individual, but those we have a level collective. Uh, so that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,

that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, , be women solas when you

are the the child of that mother and that that's that regla no-verbal here the

nobody me says that I'm it's a practice, it's a world, it's normalize

and for that's the thing, so so how you know, how you know how you know those

are the rules no verbales of your systems? are systems so systems

of repetitions that have been the people and the

people the people you don't question is part of the life.

And the actuan. No, we're not about of that because the regulations

are inconsient and we are, and are some, they're we're many

aspects. The first for pertenencia. So, we're we're we're,

we're, we're, we're not a natural of the tribe. Exactly. Nobody

wants said, the upestado, the desterado, the redasado,

nobody we're so. So, So, you see the regla no-verbal because you're

part of the system. You know that regal because as a little, you know,

you know, you know, you know, so you imagineate, you're a little in a

family where your mom you grew a little, your abuela you're

so- and then you, at, all, at that that's a the

that's a lot of that's where is where it's where it's and it's where the regla no verbal of the system

now I'm now I'm a woman that's the woman a woman, a woman, a woman, a woman, and with

this I'm trying to carry the the dolor of the mother of the I'm part of the the story. All this is inconsient.

Nobody nobody knows that's that's doing. So, because, a bit, we're going to

understand that we're that great part of what we're doing and act on the life is our

really, what we're doing, that's what we're that we've brought here to the, to the

that's that's all to be ready to be able to get to work, be disciplined, be disciplined,

to make decisions, but it's still still the grand majority of the aspects that govern in our

life, are in the inconsient and in in those regals no verbales, of things that

over all us are in the plan affective. For example, how was the money in your system? How were the

love? What were the people? How was it lived the love the life?

The success. The success. The liberty. Of the the liberty, of the person, in this family,

all are all are scientists, all are scientists, you have to be scientific. And you have to

and then if you did it list, well, you know are part of that system.

Or they're so they're not really, I don't want to have a religion. Yeah, I know, I know, I'm

not, I'm not, I'm not going to that religion of my family. I'm going to another religion or not

practice a religion? Yeah. Although it's is almost is the extreme? It's the extreme?

Uh-huh. So, when the family is a no, there's much religion. I'm ateo.

I'm am the, I'm, I'm the, I say, the, uh, the,

because as because as we've we're we're we're all we're in the

system in their necessity evolution our our our system advanced

with us so here nobody is nobody's so if you you're

you're you're with people with more because we're

we're we're talking the the reglas no verbal

and in the regular is a alliance with an

the pain the problem, the is an alliance with the, with the system

no has that's very very strong. So, that can have an alliance with the

problem, with the poverty, with the crisis, with the fracacacus, with the

misocrib, with the question, with a thing, there can't be alliances, although the

results are there can be there's a question that you know, that's not so it's not

difficult to get to what are the alliances that you have your

abelels and he's the creator that's the creator of the constellations familyaries

that after seven generations after. Seven generations after you can

be able you can be hered and you can't continue reproducing

this and you tell you I said reproducing this door and we're

this alliance because we're we're because we're Cargare the

Dolar of the system and for love to our parents. Here's

here the word Helinger, theologo and spiritualist Alemann, creator of the constellations

family. I imagine that this you refer to this said, and we know,

we're not sure we're notces of our own and ancestors, and our different,

we're we're just we're being conscious to them, and liberate to the

influence. So, so, so there's there's a solution. We're going to

talk to talk about the information. And you will say, is that really is very difficult see what you see. So,

really, uh, eyes that no, they're doing, says John Bradshaw, uh, eyes, uh,

so, this that no see, uh, uh, actually, uh, really,

not you're going to know, you're going to talk about that's, but we're doing the system today's is

actuando this and this alliance with the carencia, with the women solas, with the

women violent, with the alcoholism. With the suffering in general. With the suffering in general. Yeah. And there is

where, I mean, we accept them these alliances to be part of the dolor, to be part of the tribe, basically.

And also to repair them. To repair them. Because for that's repetimus. So, the compulsion of repetition

has to have to the opportunity to repair them. And this for the world spirituals

about when I sano I'm a generation as a way of

that's so is precious I've I've been patients working

a family family where his his his was

in his house and he said he he

did he in relation to a therapy a

therapy of the work to all all all

all the the no-verbales, are memorized in the memory of our body.

I, for example, I can't have to have a patient and we can't be working,

as a recent, we were working that she has a partner, but finally she has

an mante, no can't be comprometer is, is, but not is-

and then then, working this that she, for her, the more infiel, the most

bad person, at the hour to do a time to do a therapy with your we've done

that it was a alliance with the women dis-leal of the family

and how we know we know because corporalently without she she was

something that she said I'm I'm infiel to your papa no no

no those are those those those are the so inconsient

she inconsient she she he does do something that that needs

to need to and So then a therapy where emerge that is a a therapy that

is a work. Yeah, we're going to talk about with more more than the next segment we're to be able to

the secrets. So, sana she has a sad, and obviously sanas and and then your kids

or your not going to repeat that pattern. So, it's the liberate the energy and the nudo of

this system. Okay, get in the podcast because more about about to learn how liberate,

how to we're doing we're going to we're we're going to we're this. Before

to the first block, I'm going to talk to the matrimonies energetical, because that

also is a type of that's a kind of, and it's like very obvious, but of the

that's it's super common. Yes, it's a lot of okay. So,

then we're in that the system has his hierarchies, uh, has a has a

word, that's also the system of, the, the order of the, the,

So, the parents are in a gerarchy than a hierarchy than the kids. The kids are a genera major than a

general than the general has a little bit of the hierarchy within the system. So,

not it's not a not a little a or that even a one,

a brother to a manor a mano major. So, the children have to

get in a little and what is when, for example,

a matrimonio not have a relation a soodable then

the papa has a his his princess his love and the and he he he

considerate is that his mom and she put always this his

priority and is her and her and her and her husband

there she she's the she's she she she's

but this is her princess what does the father

is that is that sub to his to the same level of hierarchy. Or even or even

more up? That's a matrimonio energetic. That is a matrimonial because now he's

a little he put to his wife and his wife to his wife to and to feel that he has,

that has the relation with his papa. Are these women or have 30, 40 and that

they can't establish a relationship a because they're or they're a couple of a pair, that is your

father or his mother. And that is something that, not is that, you know, is that you have you

know, is that you're going to do you and you're, and they're going to say, no, what you're here

with the back over a little, a point no. Like, whoa, the Cerebrough me is

being, wow, me's doing whiltas, I mean, you can't be in a relation, because you

have a relation with a mom. So, the places are, the place is

occupied. A bit of example, every one, every one of the places of our system,

has a kind of an energy, okay? So, the place of my

partner, if I do you, I, I occupied the place, I'm, I'm the

partner, or of my mother, then, then I don't have a responsibility. So,

I have to have to that contract that's a matrimon energetic with my

father, because, it's a question very dolorousa. So, if the father

and you do you do you do your woman, no, no, has to

have sex evidently is a matrimonio emotional. You know, this, you know,

this, he rompe your relation with your mother, because you put

to compete to compete with the love and the attention of

the, of the, I mean, the, I, let us put to compete,

so, the, it's, it's a, eternally, fiel to him,

in this matrimon, and in a life of much insatisfaction. All this is done

the inconsient. So, of a time, or they're in a therapy,

or they're saying, no, I'm, what more that's, but always that a person to come

to my father, or I I'm who I'm trying to or I'm feeling that

I'm there's I've even I've even though I'm I'm still I'm

am still that my mom my mom always this this also makes of the carency

no imagine you know imagineate you a that's a that

not has a relationship and that has how you know that's how you do you

do you do it's I'm my son I'm a man I'm a

his mom has divorced and the he said he said he said he said

he said he said he said all of his his wife oh Mark Antonio is like my

because I'm to all the reunions or the interviews when she had gained

premiums for his and he said that was his he was a he was a

part so so it was so so it for you not I'm

because I'm because I'm because I'm I'm so you

No, because, that's the the theme of the contracts. What? No, it's not a lot of when someone fallacy? No, it's

Oh, Christ Baja to the cross. For that. But, but we can't do do that therapy. No,

we'll do a pause. We'll see a pausita. When we're a pause, we're in the thing, no? We'll continue

about the matrimonios and how resolve that and how is this of that, and how is this that, no,

it's a God, oh, God, of what I'm going to and also

we're going to and we're about to talk about when in a generation before, the case

typical of the songs rancheras or the songs were in a cabaret where I found she

and he know a the vuela that's prostituia she was she was she was

she made a secret family and then and the nieto the bidsnieta even

they don't have an necessity economic and apparently not have no necessity,

it's prostitue. This is how it it's solosionate and continue. Continue. This episode of the podcast

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This, before to go to the secretes familyers, this of the matrimonios we're in

us, we're doing, us, especially. A bit of, let me say, that's quite say that's

because really we're supposed in families where the parents not are responsible and conscientious of their

needs, in matrimonios where in this idea of being felices for ever in

reality no there's no there's no there no there's

not a not much we're we're from our from our co-dependency

in relations that not you know and so it's

very common that in this in this entorn the father or the

mom take a a child to get that not

to get those how's how of us or how you've lived

mom's and papas that's they're talking about about and they're about

of your and the questions of father of a situation with the

money things that as you know you know you know you know you know

you don't you know the capacity to digerer and that that is the

form in that a a man to get to the same

the same So, you invite to talk about about about

about things that not have to be with your age, making you see,

a little an adult, an adult a little a little a exact, and lethando

see, your and so the and because as the

noblesa of the young that we we're the only that we're

we're a mother to hear his lachrimas, uh, send you have to do

something to do do you know, be a perfectionist for that she get to be yeah, get to be a get that

another example for a yeah, oh yeah, but with many different different women divorciated

well normally the children are the mother, normally the there are some there are some of the

people who are the woman who doesn't the one, two, three, four children,

she's only, is, it's, not that's not that's, especially if not have studied this or

if not received an orientation, it's very common that mom or pap or divorcedado , he'll,

come into, and looking the role of a pair of some of his kids. It's quite common

and I want to say, the thing has to be with the fact of the

factiva that we have been we're actually, effectively we're going to

see, but as you can't recargart in your children, because it's an abuse. Well, no, there's education, no education, psychological, emotional.

Nobody's prepare for that. And so, for so we're going to these examples of that my my mom, my mom, was in front in the coach and my spouse at last, no?

My mom is like the wow of the, the, the, the, my, the, you are a X, so that,

so, so, many times, they did some more, that they did a his

two because really not those they're not not they're not, but their

their amos and they my my hit, I'm my little and I'm

a very a man really, you get at the altitude like I and is

competing with the no or so to be to be you you do you

do you do you because try so the camis because it was

because it's her I mean, I'm... I'm going to hear all the rues that are here from... So, like when my perrito

is a keha, um, oh, oh, you know, so you're saying that they're talking of you?

Uh, uh, well, uh, welcome, so, it's very, it's very,

it's very, it's very, it's, it's, so, no, no, no,

no, with a suor , clear, or with a sure, of, so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

as it's suterrune and she's a matrimonio I've got to be a lot of one of the things more cabroses that I've seen one in therapy To be a bit of That's a bit more Chismessito spiritual

She was a She was a mother A very matriarcha He's a son He's super dependent Economically Economically I was she was the

Fuerre the first So it's the best Toes to cause to Toes to your kids to your fandas So, no you permit to develop

a individuality. So, I'm overprotectorate and so they're going to be able to keep up

your palm. Uh-huh. Never's going to go to be there a telenovela. Horrible.

Yeah. It's a macabro. But it's inconscientite, eh? I mean, it's for

a fear. I'm a fear, I'm not to be a fear, I'm getting a lot,

so I'm then so, I'm going to over- protect, those go to them,

I'm going to do. I'm with the money, as my mom, because also they're doing the patriarchs, as as they're going

to do you and they're going to and they're going to be in my palm and I'm under my control. If it's a many people,

where, ah, you're not, you know, the papa or the abelos you're a big, but that's a

department. It's a price. It's a no, no, no, no, no. The price is what?

Who manned in the family? As he is. The person the is. And this fulano vivied with his

mother. The mom, for the supposed, he said, in his his terrano various

houses, I had his children. I said, in some my patient, is that the mom

is so inferman that when we when we're, when we're when we're when we're when we're

going to, no, no. She entered to the no, don't, don't,

no. How when they're doing the love the mom the mom the mom

enter. imagineate in a time when she started much to be in banning to be here my hitho

yeah tallyate yeah salgance bruce so horrible so it that's like a

vienna to be a vienna yeah I mean these things pass so it's like a

like Ursula like the the mansal the blacknanaves so so that is

and this has to have to with the matrimonio and I'm

saying the kuchy-cucci. And also like to, uh, sootava the door and it's out of the door and it's salia. No I said nothing, but it wasot a lot of the door and it's not, you imagine

the level of suffering of a system collapsed in this sense. That horrible. But, to let's go to say,

this don't think that's something very common, eh? It's very common? It's a common. It's a lot common. It's a lot

common that the moms, uh, make children dependents affectives and economic or that

the papas do you do not evenes affectives and they're a dependency that then then you can't

you can't your own your own because that the place you're because you know

you're you're you're you're not so you so then we're so really we

we're we're if you if you you're if you you're you're

you're you're your mom and your mom and you're your maximum you have a matrimonial

energy. Very probably I had a noviour that I'm that I said when we were like we're doing

like carandos so. So, so I said is that is that I to go to confess

and I'm saying I'm just that I'm not I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm and I'm

and I'm sure that's that's right but why because we don't we don't

do we're not only those that we're we'd have we'd have done of my papas.

Oh! Imagine at the level of control. Aha! So, yeah, suffraised

to be avergonsabat that we had been done to the other than his father. And I said,

confiast you, you're very agust and I was and I was and she confessed about

and we was a is an example of an education based on the

in the in the fault of and the part. It was like with

the kind of energetic, it was like with a mom. So, so, so,

so, so, yeah, because, when the papas, they were, they're, they're,

they're, exactly. So, when the parents not connection and have to be

together, they're using, they're they're so, and then all his

energy is a turn to in the child. So, the he's,

the child is the great pretext for that they're so that's just the this

is a kind of in a dysfunctional, no. Oh, then we're

a person who's a lot of a new and then that's, imagine two people who

have been a matrimon an energy and they and then they're

and then they're that's after you know, so when you put you

put to your mother front to your family when you know

when you know you know you when you when you you're a

adult you you your family nuclear your priority

you are your fathers. No. Yeah, no is your mother.

It's your wife, your husband, your son, your children, they're your family,

you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, when you still, you're

when you do you do this, you know, then you have a matrimonion energetic.

You can't be between or among someone that's someone

that I can't, but I'm a matrimon with my Anna, that with my marino or the

other than I'm absolutely. We can we're doing we're in not, so, because finally,

what is what is what is in a matrimonial that really you feel as like a priority, should be the

people, the people, the people, and the people, are like, all doing some of the little bit of

doing yoga facial here. Sire, you, you see, you're saying, you're going to

keep on. Siviv you're going to all of us so, you're going. because more we'll talk about

about the sanation so can't be done you know divorcee of the matrimon energetic never is

a lot of solutions just in this question in this question I said a little I had a

question a consultant that said that said I was I wanted to work

because not could do your own your family if it was what

was that and and on a little in the really

her brother always had been his protector her support, she was she was

always been very very alliated and then when a party when she

had when she had always always with the brother for the

brother never never was never never never and she

she was giving the major power to her

and but in reality she was was disposed to to leave that

that, that, that, that, that's, that he doesn't, or he's

culpability. No, in, in reality, for she, she, she, she has,

she has more benefits, for the protection, the connection, and the vincal

that this he did, and I, what, what I did, is, if you

you, you, maintain this this lot, comod, with

this a relationship comod with the one, you you're

going to do you were that, because those matrimonies have those their own and is that

in reality never can reconstructs your life that is very frustrating for who you because never

you're at final, at 100 with you. And because in reality you can't you can't

you can't and you can't because it's like a form of ataske you know and it's you know

and apart that's horrible to be to get to someone or start with someone or start

with a priority and our family not is the priority your priority is your your brother is your your brother is your your mom your mom

and here what's so why we're so for that we're for what we're for that's family so that's so really we we have to do

we're doing we're in the little the the child the new interior so can be so can do make a divorce

of the matrimony energetic that's because the case was the woman the adult or no well in the

next segment we're going to let's talk of how we're in the matrimonions energetic although the

other person has fallen. Yes. It's a question that's a question.

Okay, but the secretos familiares, yeah, we're not we're but the

secretos familiares, this, why, what's the abuela, the abel, the abelalal,

the abelal how and why he could have affected, no, the example that I said I was,

that I, that I just in a book very famous that is called secretes secretes familiares.

We studied some one a book horrible, so, because it about about about

How is possible that if the was a prostituta and nobody knew it's up in the family, and now there's reasons, yeah the conditions changed, why the nietta, why the bisnieta

could have done with this? Okay. This has to be with the, the not, the not to be verbalize

the things that don't know. Uh, so, all those secrets, for example, think you're what are the

secrets that never have said to the parents? Uh, what are the are the secrets that are

the secretos between brothers or the secrets that never you're to say to your

family. The secrets are things are that you guard that you guard

energetically for that and that that if they if they were a

person or if they were that my brother or if they were those

secrets are they're so I know I don't I'm not I'm

not going to let me my family someone she's suicide and and that my nieters know the

system borre those figures because what's that's that they're that's

those secrets are for a and they and they're and they're so it's a sentiment

of indignity so the thing not just not just not just not just with what

it's what there what there is what there is to this me does it

because no because I'm, because they're to rechazz because no me van to make a secret.

I don't call to my orientation sexual. Because that that's, that's, that's,

I'm so, and that has a need a need to get, because, because then

it's an energy torada into, into your own, the, so,

the things, the thing has to have to have been to be with

this sentiment of being to be to beckon it's for that we're

we're we're we're because we're we're we're we've

we've been the dignity so the so the so the that's that's

that that's of that that that and what what is that

a past that that be a a secret to the

abuela of the abel then there there there generation that

a person a person who is the Obeja that's the secret. Actual the secret. Actual the secret.

For example, I had a case of a patient that always had asthma that always sentia that was always

problems with the garganta and well, it's incredible how we get there, but we get to the

story of an abelah aorcared for her parja she was she was reproducing a nudo

of a situation dolorosa and how they got she didn't she didn't she didn't

know not sure not that not how they knew how it was for that

it was it was very interesting because when we were we're we're

revisando the symptom because I work with the symptom

the body the the the person to give I'm, I'm

like if me arekaren, I see a woman here, and she's she's a description, the symptom of the thing, of the,

that was like to hear of the symptom. Ah, was to hear the symptom. A part of the symptom,

we started to see the image of that they were and a part of there, she could do a

investigation of what was what was. He was to ask, to investigate, that's super interesting.

We, we were in this program we've seen the book of the

secretes of the of the of the of the exactly exactly in a

record so I'm a and the time to do you to do to visit

to all our all of all the people all the people all the people

obviously not this is we have weh and we we can't we can't

we we can we can we can we can about how how

to verify because you say my mom, my papa, they're married, the abelos were like,

so it's like you like you're like you're like you're like you're like you're that's the story.

But here the interesting is that when you're going to be past with my father to my years, you

they're they're going to tell you they're just they're to have ever when you're they're like

and they're so my mom that's not so no, no, no, look, look, what happens is

that you no, nothing to have nothing to many years, and many

those boys or those boys are people who don't know there's a nobody who there's and they're a

idea of the stories and so we did we're doing and we did it. It was very interesting

what each one of the people we're going to say all over aubel

no you goy don't you goy yeah yeah yeah yeah

because really really we know really we really We know the history official.

Aha, the that we the acceptable. The acceptable. When you're a child, but adult and they're young, you're just a great story that's the story

official. The grand majority of our parents have an history not-contated that has been with secrets of situations

that we're reproducing so, for example, as you never you never to say to you're going to do you want to to be able to

okay, but generally not. Normally not. I mean, no, no, no, not, no, no, not. Normally no, but my mom was very, this, this,

a, okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, imagine us that the mom, no, so the mother not, they'd,

I'm, I'm up to aborting. I'm, I'm up to aborting. I'm, you're going to

say, oh, you, abusable, abusable, of me, not, not, you're,

you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, You know, these stories, generally not

we're going to say to our children. Or the boyle, was prostitutes, I was there, or we were the uppedrados of the people, because in reality, the abuela had with all the people, no? So, what a verguenza! What a verguenza, because we're

the most povres and we always trailed the sapato rotos. And then, nobody was we're going. What a verguenza, no? So we're, we're not? We're, we're, that we, that all these aspects

us make guard a very much you're you're not you're so you're doing so

you're doing something in a way of our need to make a carpaz status

and all these things finally they're that's what are that's making

making making making you in terms of our in terms of our

and the and the fact that all that when a mom

was he was was at point to aborting to

that that that's he could have much predisposition to the

murder. And he no know the is a secret. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. So, how? Like, if they were, if they were to be

a possibility to aborting to, how the he can't have a pre-disposion to be a

very, oh, because no has to do it all depends the context. Oh,

these episodes always end up me therapy to me. It has to be

to because not the same, everything everything all has to

your mom. But if you were at a point of to move and you were in

a situation where you took as energetically the death, so you can't have

a predisposition to the death, a that's a place, to, we're,

we're in the world, let's predisposion to the most we're no,

no, no, but I'm referring to that, I'm not, to suicide, to a that a conflict with the

life, with accept the, for example, the time of biars respiratories, a thing very very strong with the skin, a thing like a

conflict with the life. Okay, yeah. That's, we can be. We can't go.

So, so, but all this can be sanar. All this is. So, it's, we can't have to be

to give us a lot, and it's you can't sanar. What do you see in the second and

the last segment of the podcast? Okay. We're about how sanar, then those

these secrets family and how to end up those matrimonies energetic, of how to cover conscience and to let us

for that not we're going to our own our life. Because if we're not that we're

in a pariah, with someone that's trying the same that's where it's where it does it.

Well, after the pausa, we'll be ideas, tips, to help to be able sanar,

advice, to be able to do this that maybe we've been herdating generations an mara

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we're going to the podcast. We're going to we're going to we're going to we're going to talk about it was interesting

that's interesting the conversation yeah what they're the moment honestly how do you

know about what they're saying don't don't they're not they're there's

the majority that they're there's there's inconsientes or that No, no, they don't know. No,

and apart, also one could hereder things marvellousas. So, not everything is as well, there's a lot of

those are those are problems, but, so, that's so that's a beautiful. And that's

important to validate, and I think that I think that I think, I think, I think,

that nobody can accept those dones without, without, without, first, the,

the, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, in the same

partetitit totally. When you you're enoched or when you know that's

inconsient of a part of this, for example, a person enoched with the

never will be able to accept the don'ts that you have the when you when you

you have a problem, it's a form of disconnection and of this and you

you're not you're not you're not you're going to get to you're to get to

your conflict and then they then the what is what a lot of

a person the point he reconciled with her mother, he

he's things that were marvellousas and that their nojo never let's

them so that's so that so interesting fifte the psychologist francis Anne An

Anselin Schutzenberg does that is the number or no yeah? Yes Yes

it's says determined realities are so difficult what we we're

talking of the secretes of family no Dicestered Determinades

are so difficult that the parents decide call them in the first generation is something is something

is something a secret of family in the third is it in an impensable

genealogical is that that is that is it's not prohibited you know you know

the movie a very of cocoa yeah coco that just that just

about that a lian family where they can the abuela,

the abuela the bula co- the mother, the mom of cocoa the mom of co-to

this, odia to his party because she went because she abandoned her music,

so she doesn't that the guitar and nobody can't talk the guitar

that's a little what is the phrase, in this family no, in this

family in this family, we we're that is something because the abelel

abandoned to the bula abandoned to the mother so you no

is to talk a guitar. So, so the system reprimed the music and then always is the Oveja Negra.

The Oveja Negra is Miguel. Miguel, the boy, is the little.

So, for example, in another other movie that about about this that we

about. It's in can't. Encanto. Incant, so, the, no,

he's not about, every one of the characters of this movie has the

the paper that we've We've got done of the systems.

Uh-huh. There's, for example, Luisa, that's the future. In a system,

she's the rescatara or the rescat or the hero. Yeah. It's always the

obeha that's she the other the star of the film. But in both

cases, according when they go and discover the real real history, no,

it's like like when Miguel Baik busks and he and all,

and so, and it's and it and it's it was like. No, no, because we're not because we're we're talking with the

interpretation of the problem and with many resources. And with a story. And with a story. Of course, there's a other movie also that about just the memories, of how one can

go editing the memories that you put in a chip and then when you you'd be you, it was all your story within this chip. And how,

at the hour of this person, and to revisit the memories that record about with much blood, with much aspects,

he'd have found that in reality was a interpretation of the mirada of that manned that's a story.

And it's for that we're, when we're when we're trying our history, we have to

get with the adult to actualize these realities and what is what in the movies.

So, so, so, it's, it's, it's a look, a

man, of the new I'm going to talk about I'm going to be about.

I'm I'm I'm going to I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

and I'm and I remember the that that that's a house when I was a new year

I was a that I'm a little I'm a normal no? It was the

place where we're my year I saw it two years my brother

my brother for a reason was to that house and we and we sent it a photo and

the triangle was a little bit of a little bit of this is an example of what we know what we

know what we're doing it's all it's a huge more great, enormous, it's dolorous and reconcilable

if we want to our history and going with the mind of our children then will

be going going to be able being the world that the world that the same to the

but what we need is to learn to develop a a mirrored an a adult.

the adult is the adult. the adult is curious. has a, has a car of arrements a lot of the years and the experience. So, an element

fundamental to sanar is construct us an adult because the great majority we're going for the life, being

children of 40, of 50, how you know you're a kid? Because always the

other. Because you never assume the responsibility. Because over-dimension all.

Because nothing has because you need someone that you do you

do because it has has a vision like infantilized

so so, so we're living the life from

that the thing, very enchud, and passive. So, so we're living... Indefenso. In defense. A person, me has to rescat.

Someone, mom, someone has to do you, to do you know, we're doing to do you. To us. God,ito, salvame. Jesus. So, you know,

my mom, virginita, Jesus, or whatever say, salvame. Cargame, salvame. Totally. So, today we are,

we have, we have a narcissism, a narcissism spiritual, no? So, the narsisicism spiritual. So,

The children are narcissists for naturalize. They're just, their mom, her father is of them. My mom, my father is of them. My mom.

My father's for me. My father's, my mom. My, my, me, me, me, me. That's, that's,

that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, but in reality, so, many times

we're living the life as a little times personal, thinking that God's, we're going

to do you doga, the yoga, the meditation, all the that's the knowledge that I have and I'm really

the responsibility of, to be, of what it's it's, of that you end up your camera, no? I mean, that you, that's, that you're responsible of the things more,

more common is like your reactions violentas, that you are responsible of your fear, of the form in the

way in the you're talking, of how has relevado to your parents with you about your kind of

you, these these doleons and those are you're reproducing without and question to

not you're question about why why all the women of your systems are so why the

people always have things with the alcohol because there's an abuse there there's an abuse

we're we're never to negate what what's and we convertamos in adults

in adults that they are that they investigate that are curiousos, that assume the responsibility and that

know that there's a first thing. So, passu number one, would be, I'm the intention to sanar. That's my intention. My intention is sanar. To who's the intention? If you're just to

stop it? I mean, I said, to go to pay to suffer, to give a $100, then I'm going to do my $100 dollars.

Or those invest in therapy or I go, I have the intention to sanar. If I have the intention to sanar, I'm disposed to disposed to

have what I think is the truth with new eyes. Yes. I would

say the intention and the intention and the intention but one day I'm going to go to get to

get a thing I'm my hitho we have the grand intention of many things but to

when? The lunace uh the lunace now for the year

now for the new the new the the intention the the

disposition the the Voluntad and the and I would say I'd

say the love the I'm saying the motor the motor the motor that

we're to move for for the really think there there's that there

a reality more more more amourous is the love you know

we know we're and appreciate for we and visualizern

with this merceiment and in those realities that

we're we're not we're not doing not so those, standing with with parishes only for

money. No, we're not we're in positions where always I'm always I'm doing something

something that never you're not, you're always you're doing you're playing with the life,

not you the life really, no, I mean, we can't be able to be able to

and of all and of all right, but not live so I

think we need we need to create a auto-compassion that is a mode

of a model proper that we help to get the motor and the

that that that that's that that we think we're we're

really very intentioned so this this world is

this and the and the love and also sometimes means

I'm going to go to go the desire because

I'm because if I'm a And I'm a lot, full of pus and all. Well, I'm going to put a and the doctor me will be able to be

a pus, me going to be something to sanar, and me will dole. But it will do, but it's a matter of that, because that's a more. Amor not is to avoid the dolor. Yeah. A lot, I don't know

I'm going to always, but a sometimes the dolor is necessary for sanar. And see this, ver the secrets familyarers, darkewarmness, that you're going to be, you know, it's a lotrimonio. It's.

Dole. Dole the therapy and the Sanation is the thing is the thing. I always I always say to my students, it's going to get a moment in that you're going to want to want to want to

any kind of any kind of the money, the traffic and I think that's something that also is very common I mean, many times

it's a job to investir a in a therapy or invests in a job of a job of a service but a

bolza and some the lot you know another other stuff another iPhone vending

oh because that's me do see you know the status so you a new

a little yeah yeah yeah here's my value so here so here

and so and then really we're we're I know I was I know

a person a yeah a little so a guy so a

very he's very car is lim or no no

No, not so, not so, not this, who? Not so, but it's a, it's a person who, that, that, uh, be a story full of infidelities,

of abuse with women, of noho with them, of the rechazz. And I thought, how can, how can we dedicate us

the life to, do a, and not to, a, a, a, a, a, a, one's a dorm,

but it's a dorm, not? Because it's a, do it's a, do it, to do a, do it, to do

Lujo, could be a form of evading the reality. But at final,

the reality you'll get a reality. I think that it could be that all

we're doing that we say a thing. The A VG is, it's, to do,

to us will get. And to all us get that factura. And it's there

we're going to be what we do we really what we need because the

aspects dolorosos and all these alliances and all these situations that

we don't we're our disorders and our their injuries, they're they're in the veges. And so

they're more great. It's, as it like we never me, I never me,

I never me dole here, never me tronable here, and it's a moment in that you

get a physically, so it happens with the world emotional. And the no,

no, no, it's cargating with more more things not sanadas. And then those

erred us. And then you are you're going to because, that's a reder, because not because not because not those have said,

it's not because not they're, it's in the system to the system to we're I always in that,

I mean, me, I think, in the sanation, in my sanation, putting

to liberate to my her and putting to give more permissions to give me

a couple of a model like a reference that's me inspired to be something.

I mean you know heredes casas no hered this money, you know,

an life of a life of a personal full of respect of

love, of compromise and and the really you've invested into

so you have not so her Salud emotional Herodd

good habits, the habit of communicate to talk to explore, to revisit to say,

and see me read them a casita also, no, no, no, not we're

not we're not even but that's full of phantasm and it doesn't that's

that's an that that's an that has that has that has that has a

particular, no, because then then now, you're you're to have

to represent to the abuel, no, if you you're is what

you're doing the constellations I've never you've done a constellation familiar, who's been to the man? Who has done?

Who, no, have done the hand? Who, who didn't even have heard of a constellation

familiar? Here, there are many that no. I never I've done, I've heard, but I've heard

stories, Claudia, Alcarazaki, here in our producer, there are various people of the people, they've done

a maraville that they're doing and they do a voice to other people in the family is, like a

gestalt, that, massive, not? as as as, as,

what happens, what happens is that this camp of the we've been this camp of the

is represented for these people who are the people who this, of this interpretation.

So when we're about us, of how with the murder not they're not

the contractors in this representation you can you can just the

because the people actuant the camp but you how they're

they're how they're they didn't even know, and you're my family, or not just you're the

abuela, you're the mother, you're the, the mom, oh, my, you're,

no? Just because they're at the disposition of the camp. And there's a

time, the camp, of the camp, of who's that's the energy. The energy. It's the,

is the, it's the, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we,

we're, we, we're, we're, and we, and we, and we, we,

evidence scientific. I mean, just, just because then the end in the crucifions

that's that's a thing, that's a yeah, that's no, that's, I think,

I think, there have been many, many, many, many, many, many,

many, many, many, many, people, of this type of theories,

but are so, so, how, how, how you can make, you know,

how can, in relation to the camp and how so it there scientific?

So, no, evidence scientific, but if there, for example, grandes like Verheelinger

that's a job, to work to work with the camp. Of course, of there came the

concept, no, John Bradshaw or all these that have dedicated all his life to

work to work with this energy and that really really, not, no,

not, not, not, not, but who people were we're with the

alma, with trauma, with nudes energetical. I mean has been very clear that I

know that I need to prepare me not only only for for comprehend and to work

psychologically to be able to be to help it's and able to have to have some

sometimes even even after some because of the you really, those need you

you want to be really at the service of someone for example

I had a a a patient that a asthma, a situation that had a day

since that's a new a car, I really like I'm working with the symptom of her

she said, she was was a exeated that since well, total, the case is that

a, a woman was fixied in the house where she got and in a way

she was she le like, in what the matter of the school you're

they're the more to know? Well, no. So, really, no. It's something that you have to

learn, because if it's because if we don't know, because if we're trying energetically, if we're to find us to our patients and

we're doing, and there the only that we is our service, the faith, and you, and you understand that these

realities are not are scientifics and that are, and that are to validate them, because no, because no-se- because not-se-mitted,

No, no more it's responsible to say this this is a evidence scientific, but a much

people have done a result and you know, if you have a mind abirate and you want to and then you

know, now also, making justice to this thing of the science, well the psychology

was recognized as a 150 years. Not not mean says that so 50 years

not served the psychology. Or the meditation, the mindfulness he has recently in the

last few decades. Sure. Scientifically but it's It's just more

than 2,000 years, more than 2,000 years of that we're practically in the India, in Asia. So,

the science little to have been to prove some things, others not. And there's always

there's a thing that not is recognized scientifically that maybe that's that's

not, so, so, because also because for the investigations scientific

are required presuppest that many sometimes not, the, the,

the, those, the, those, the, It has to be someone. It has to be

someone with an grand presupposed to create to find out of that that reality exists like what

what's in the mindfulness and that that's we can't do it but that

that existed and I know. I think we know that we can generate that

investigation but but without people we're we're we're we're

we're we're and that's real and there many many doctors psychologists

that have have been done books that are these realities and that have done

these things and that are very profound and that it's like that it's like the thing of the thing of the thing of the

things, no, the things that exist. It's also the years youngs, now the psychology

modern, it's a, I'm, how, when you know, when you're when you're

when you're when you're when you're so, thanks. So, Suions Lusid, so you're

the name that the psychology modern and the So, you're yogicos is the

name that received from since many of years. But it's a camp incredibly interesting.

But to who is an interest about that? Who will do you do that people

have a life? So, the people are motivated and have millions of dollars to put

to do you? The science, it has been demonstrated, what has this is very important.

I, we're not we're just calificing to the science. We're just about

saying that for that there's studies scientifics has to be someone with much money very motivated

to get to study that's and why I'm what I'm going to what I'm going to to do you do that product I want to

do you know to the benefit? To the to the humanity us benefit but there

no there no I'm a company private or maybe there is there we know we're doing

just doing you're doing it's responsible to say oh yeah this is responsible to say it's personal, decided

to maintain me with the mind very abjured because I know, but what don't,

but what do if tomorrow is? Yeah. And also he presta much to chat,

a charlataner yeah. Just for the natural so I always, I think it's very delicate

to work with energy and with the camp I know a much constellators, I know

a much constellators, I know many close to you know very very camp, if

you know what can't get to get to because in the camp

is all. This this body energy that we we're that we

have all the different and from all malditions to brusions,

after brus to bads vbras then so that you put

to you put to the camp of a person that you know Well,

you can connect with that energetically. I mean, not is anything. I think that you have to have to have

much because there are many options that you do you can do you do that's the time.

And that's the problem. And the fact is that we've done years and years studying to be able

to do the better and with the more resources, no? So we we have to

be very selectives, very adultos at the way to choose a solution.

The The advice final is to dissolve accords, no verbales, matrimonios energetic, even if the

person and the person and so secretos familiares because I know, I can't like

barnisar to all, this is the solution. There's a therapy, there's a job

internal, but some some tips that you can make to do you do this?

Yes, for example, they're a, a, a, a, a,

a system familiar, to his abuelos, to his fathers, his brothers, and making

this the different of the system of repetitions that they're in relation to things like

the money, like the children, the patrons, that are they're they're

they're what are the patterns that's the and you see that you're

you those patterns. The fact is to observe in what areas of your

life you're allied with your system. I I think we could

do even exercises like when you're when you're a kind of a question

that you know a a man with your mom with your mom, then you would you

a ritual, you know, a ritual of divorce. A ritual of divorce literal. So,

do you know, ask us something that's something that's something that's something that's something that's I'm saying

me, so. You know, you know, we're doing. We do we. We do. We're doing,

in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, energy of the people who

came to run per the accord. So, is something that you know, I'm explained, you know,

we've done quite, intuitive, and perceptive. And because you have to do, say,

ah, yeah, I'm, the difference. The difference is that you don't know the difference is that

you know, is the person, who has to go to the encounter with that with that contract

you know you don't you're going to do you know for so I'm I'll say I'll give

this tip no then the general see your well you write a letter and at

the maybe you'll say but I'm saying if the

if the work that that's not you're not not

but you know but for the question but I'm that's what we

do you just is is to get to the child with your body, your emotions, and your

sensations, from your cerebral reptilian and your cerebral limbical to the contract, because if the

child is the child, he has to know that he will be to be a good, that has in

you, someone who he will be to be a that is dis-leal, that no is culpable, that can

give us that responsibility to his mother or a father, and that he will be be

being. And that's something that's a thing is a little to be the little bit of the connection

that has the that's a manned you know, you know, you know, you're going to do you

don't you do that we're going to run per this accord but you're not to get a

your momita, to your brother, to your brother, because we're going to renegotiar. So,

is. We're going to renegotiate. That is the clave, the word clave.

So, the the child, only can't the contract if you you do

you do you do you do that's a real of a thing to get a change. Something he's going to

not to get to nothing because he has done the way. And now I want to say you know is a

metaphor a beautiful that is a system of that has has a has been the power

executive of many and that we need to learn to know, I always to be

to be much more to do to know our systems lastimated that's

sanarlos, me I'm explained some day we'll be some of them but to know but to know so the

the new is who did the contract, the alliance, the accord, that's the that we're to have to work and

you'll say, you need to work to the therapy. Not it not easy to sitat

a doming that not you're doing that's doing nothing and put to write to

give you it's really you know you know you know it's it's

it's that toques things that you can't do you can't be you're in really

you're doing mentally and not serve of anything or serve a little or is the expert is the

therapist a professional a professional of the health qualified to put to put

to the podcast is a point of the podcast not the podcast is the podcast is the point of the

that you can that it's to make a recorrent to

and to the Pess to that, you know, to cause a lot, and a

time you know, it's the real thing, it's the thing. Ooh, because on the other

other side there's there's that you. Sure. In the other other side,

recuperas your real real you, on the other thing you have to, always be a always the

thing, the thing, the do you know, the doctorate, these mechanisms are very, much castrante, liberate

of that to discover that you have done to do you know, and to be a process. And to live your process. And you have to

you have a choice. Yes. You have a disordering. You have a, to have to have a torment. Yes.

And you have to be able to be there in the torment. That is precious. And it's urgent to be, just here's,

here's so. That's, that is, that's, to know, that's, to be, to be,

to be, to be in a torment accompanied of you know, when you you're you're

staying your torment, you know, you know, you know, Dr. is in psychology spiritual,

always us said, in the masteria, they said, all the people are we our dignity to live our

own own process. Yeah. So, no carryer in a nobody, and you carerreirest

you, the dignity to live your process, no, because you did you have to

get to do you, and your friends have to no, no, no, no. No.

Every every no, proposal. To live your process. And there's a the process a year.

And there's a process to do you do a year. And every in their process. The theme is that if you

metas to the process. Exactly. That's not. No, I know, I know, I'm not there's

not right. It's not. The dignity is disconnected no, I'm not. I'm not. So,

it's not. It's that I'm, oh, no, it's like, it's like, it's like,

it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, because something, well, that's

right. Exactly. Bendita Ignorance. No, no, no, it's bendita. I'm

sure that never is bendita. And really to lose the fear to to end up

to get us because we're going to be all the life and we're

and to get to get the fear is is to understand

that the is to that that's that the most important,

no is a Cancun or Spain, or Vancouver. It's to be it.

It's like that it's so simple, like that morning that you just made

you're a fraud like that you're that you were you you were to be able to

care. And that moment, to be a testigo of that reality, no.

That's that really is the time. No, it's so that's so

Mara Origuela, we have an applause with much love, a good thank you thank you.

Bravo. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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