El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 344 - ¿Monógamos o infieles por naturaleza? - Adriana Reinking, Dra. Claudia Rampazzo y Marco Antonio Regil

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

¿Qué es más fuerte: la monogamia o nuestro deseo de libertad?En este episodio, me acompañan dos expertas en relaciones, Claudia Rampazzo, sexóloga clínica y psicoterapeuta, y Adriana Reinking, filósofa y autora, para hablar sobre uno de los temas más complejos en las relaciones: la infidelidad.Vamos a explorar qué hay detrás de una infidelidad: ¿es solo una traición física o una desconexión emocional más profunda? También discutimos cómo muchas parejas enfrentan este reto y si es posible perdonar y seguir adelante después de una traición. Además, nos comparten cómo la terapia de pareja puede ser una herramienta poderosa para sanar y reconstruir la confianza.Si alguna vez te has preguntado qué pasa cuando se rompe el acuerdo de exclusividad o cómo hablar con tu pareja sobre este tema tan delicado, este episodio es para ti.¿SIENTES QUE TU PANCITA TE ENVÍA SEÑALES DE AUXILIO?El estrés, el cansancio y esas molestias en el estómago no tienen que ser parte de tu día a día.IMAGINA empezar a sentirte mejor, con MÁS ENERGÍA y MENOS MALESTAR, haciendo solo pequeños cambios que son fáciles de seguir y sostenibles.Te invito a unirte al Reto de 21 días: Sana tu Pancita y Vive Feliz. Juntos, vamos a cuidar tu salud intestinal de manera natural, mejorando tu bienestar desde adentro y viendo RESULTADOS REALES, paso a paso.👉 INSCRÍBETE AQUÍ: https://bit.ly/Reto-Marco Comenzamos el 21 de octubre. ¡Tu pancita y tu mente te lo agradecerán!Mira el episodio en video en: Sigue a Adriana Reinking: https://www.instagram.com/adrianareinking/ Sigue a la Dra. Claudia Rampazzo: https://www.instagram.com/laverdaderaclaudiarampazzo/  En mi canal de Telegram, accede a contenido e invitaciones solo para fans. Únete en: marcoantonioregil.com/telegramDescarga GRATIS nuestra revista digital y encuentra información inédita del episodio de la semana. Da click en https://marcoantonioregil.com/aprendamos *Importante: Nuestros invitados son expertos en sus temas y reflejan su conocimiento y su punto de vista, siendo conscientes de que cada una de las opiniones es totalmente personal. La información, datos, comentarios, estadísticas que se presenten en el Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil, son de exclusiva responsabilidad de quienes las emiten y no representan, necesariamente, el pensamiento de Marco Antonio Regil o de la producción del podcast.

Issa Business Centers, Spacios of Work that you help to help to do you want to be we're doing

to try to do you know, I think so in terms of very biological you, you have always the

possibility to not encagare you have to have to be that all of the

life although we have we even to our family and we we're

in that we're in that when we're when we're when we're when we're the theme of how

I'm going to how I'm to find. How do I say to my partner that this accord of

no exclusivity yeah no I'm a lot of the people in a relationship not have

the intention to lastiming to lastime to but the intention not minimisa the

when it when it's a end up this is you know to recognize

when it after you do you do you do you want to you

you're you a question. What you're going? Of what you're going? What you're going? What you're going? Well,

so that's a little little bit of the program will be very good with our two experts. Because that

thing of infidelity, there's people that's horrible. If someone you're not you're not an accord,

to have a relationship exclusive and someone is an fiel, it's a thing to feel horrible.

The, it's, you're not the heart. The heart to do you, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's desgarra. Much people say that can't pardoner and

continue to a relation after a infidelity. Much people say no, that in any

way, that no, that can't. But what us impulsa to do the people are

un-fieles? We're naturally monogamos or we are more naturally liberes and

us have been this idea to be to be a one one person.

At the final of the day is a decision? How how is how can

how can how can how can be this situation when you want

to be with a one one other person in the other in the way to

how you're in a infidelity how you you know you're you're you're

you do you do you do you the thing is good

and more because we're a two super experts that not that

we know so sex doctor and adrian ren

ren think think a philosopher author of book

other of other we we So, we'll start us. Episode 344.

Podcast of Mark Antonio Regil is a production of RGL Entertainment and all his their own their own. Thank you.

Gravier, Rampas, no, Andrea Ranking. Welcome, that's good. No, the contrary,

much more thanks. Well, no. I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. Yeah,

we've done program of radio, our program of radio, formula, teleformula, but we we've said the

theme, we need to more time. It's a because the infididididididididid I mean, is a thing

that I don't know to nobody that not has been a question with this word, with the word

and the word and said you put it the quorum or you're the alcawete of the and also

it's a way and it involuntary and that's incoomod and so is incommod and so the same that's

that you think to all the people it impacta or has been impacted or has been

impacted some yeah at level that idea that's a idea that's

a regal a regal of exclusivity erotic and affective, no could have future, well,

is a fallacy. But how you want you like, I'm just, I'm really, I'm like you

going to go a good a good a good. Sure, there's to have to be

a practice, because certainly, in a party, in the a while there was

a where we didn't project in this concept of that we we're

a part we're two and we don't let we maintain in this

exclusivity, you and I if someone more to get to get a question, then I'm to get a

little bit of the tapete, I'll do you know, I'm think the things end up

not, no, we're and finally decide they're in triangular the relation

for what there was a conflict because because the natural not we don't know

because the love is a day, and then one of the two or those two

need to a shot a an empuchon a endof a and we

we we would we'd that after that shot is a after the relationship

the relationship there's there's there's that they're to have to get to be with this

triangulation of the relation or this transgression of the agreement. And if

they're in therapy, for that many many people do that this triangulation

of the relation is a symptom of a mal-estar that not-sad- that's

that's that they're not, that's they're not they're not certain attraction

erotica or see- of other way that in your partner, no, they were in the time,

or that's the point. So this is the point, is what you know, in a therapy of a pair of a time,

we valorable a lot of a lot of, we don't, we put them to see, in what consists of the pair of,

there's, there are, thereotism, there, there are pacts, there, there are plans in common,

there a story to partied, a few, there's a lot, there's a lot of things, not only only is the

thing erotic and affective with the a pair. So, well, many people

decide they're rescat all the other than there's that they're that's a

16% that's you know, but you know, but you know, that's a interesting of

this of this people, that's were really with a coach professional.

Exactly. Because the majority of the people, according the statistics that I'm

in the case, I'm my perception of the life, the

the people not just okay, I'm, okay, I can, okay,

I can't Because it's a maldato social. Listen to this. So, you socially are you socially,

you're inpugated to not to keep a manned, a person if this person, you trycian

sexually, that is the infidelity. So the people around you say, the people and you

know, the people, because not that you're that you're going to say, it's an

imbecil, how is, that you're that's, you're that's, you've the

cerno. So, So you have your ideas, your creencers, of here's this is not can't function. This now can't

do. But I think that the majority of the people, we're going with the feelings with

a story of life. And you know, you know, injected, you know, for the

creencers in where not just you and you will be to do because you have to do me,

you, to do and as we're doing with that idea, we're very well, until that the passion

dure. Until that do you, but, but not the passion. The passion is a

pastant pretty pretty, so when you're when you mudas with the

person, when you have to get to all the days with you as

when you're when you start the that you molesta, the cotidianities

that of the reason that the end up that's there's no

magic. What there is something is something. Yes, but and if you see that

magic because some people that are a person of the they're

in a time there, I think, I think, there's there

there's a middle and the But it does very little. The

enamoramient is enamoramient and not you can love while you're not because you can't

even even can't even to be a person that's you know, because you are you

you're idealizing it. It's Edick Fromel who wrote the art of a

very good very pragmatic. Yes, that just about that just about that

the different of the different types of the thing we're what we're talking to have to have to have to have to have to be clear.

Because yeah when when it gets this point of infidelity, is that the infidelity is that we're doing like a entity that

gets to your partner, no, to be, it's a beginning to the idea of the fantasy.

The fantasy of, first, the disillusion of the, of the reality, the rompiment. This not

was what I thought. Well, no. Well, is that the enamelement Durr, during three years, say in some

studies, and it's a time in the which effectively we're drugated to chemically, we're inundated of substances. Dopated,

exactly, of substances, no, that's, that's virtuant what we feel what we know,

for that's a lot of in our mind, the qualities positive of the parja,

of the family, we're minimisamos the effects, maximisemes the qualities, no,

but this is an intoxication chemica. The fact is that is a bit. It's a bit of a little bit. It's a very disaffortunately it could do not

three years. I mean, because it's a lot of time. But be idealizing a person. No, that's one in three years.

Yeah, the family, I'm, I'm going to have people, there's people, especially women, who don't know,

they're all, they're all, they're all, they're in three years. In three years, they're casas, they're embalas, and they're

all, before, before, before, that it's a question, in the that it's,

in the the world, no, we have to take decisions relevantes of the

life. A bit of this is that it's a question we're in a question. We're trying to

we're not monogamous or we're not exclusive or not monogamous for natural we're

not sure we're noturales or we're infieles for natural in the person, not it's so it's so much the penguins are monogamos

not at a level of species but I but I think so let us Let us what we're not natural

is what we can do. No, not natural that the people, we're not, or that we're

not, that we're doing, that we're, that's just that's eight days a few days that's natural. No,

the other is natural. So, so we can't be able to do a two people simultaneously if we

can't be to love and to love to love a two persons that is what is what

is the people we're not, we're we're not we're humans. We're

We're We're mammophers But there are mammophers That's just Not just Not much Oh,

Very few The percentage is poxies It's very Of the Mammiferous That's Those

They're They're They're They're They're So But well For natural

For natural No No No No No So natural No

No So natural, no So We're We're It's We're Culturally

We're Culturally We're We're to do that's another And not it's a other So we're not

We're not We're not We're not We're not We're trying to Mnogamus We're nother We're nothernalism

I think So it's very Biologic-s- Yes We're We're Very biologic-s And we're

We're not We're not We're not We're Because we're Because of Because of Because of

Because of Because when When into That's the You know That's the You're To be

To be infididities are simply for calentura. No, it's for reproductions. No, no,

I know. Yeah, I know. I know. But my body intends to reproduce. Sure.

Well, then I'm a morrow. Oh, yeah, that was a justification, no,

of that is that I want to my, my genes. No, yeah is, right now,

we know, not, no, it's just not, so it's, so logically not,

no, now, socially, no, socialment. So, I think we're also consequence of

the crevencies of the religion, not only of the creedcius of the religion, and all the benefits of that a pair of a party's a

manned to make a name, the name is the conflict, no? Because a, so a conflict, so a conflict, are two forces in

opposition. If one is much more more force, the other, then there's a conflict, because one a push

to the other and it's a case. So, it's so it's things that we're when there's

when there's the grand conflict. So, for one that's for that's a other we're not

we're not we're socialally religiously for what we want to do you have to

and there's a hallone and it's a conflict because of another one how would

think you a person that a person that has a with a business a new

a new a day a day a day there's in a convention so

go to the Las Vegas a Capuc a Kornavaka a Congress

a A a congresso medical. And he says, me will, me, I'm going to risker to lose what I'm, my house,

my family, to be a, that's, to be in a family, I mean, why the person human,

so why the person is that or, let me know, or, let me that in that moment in where the

biology pesa, don't, you, the risk. You're impeded to calculate. For that

the enaboramoramation is so So, when you calentas, you know, you know, you know, you know,

because there's many, because there many, because there's people and that they said, is that,

I'm really, it's that, and in reality, is that no. In the moment,

they said, is that is that is going to get to get a so, yeah,

that just, that's the 188B modified, is the 18B modified, that's the

classification, know, that just that's all the point-orita, right, interruped the co-tho and then the nose and a cuckula out of it. Yeah, yeah.

And that corg-orrito not is so that really, that's, about that, about that,

let me say, you know, some biologists evolutionists that started because the penet has the form

that has because the penet because the vagina is a tunnel and has the metro

has to enter to the tunnel? Ah, no. No, not. No,

not, no, not, yes, but why it would have the gland the form that has

it has it's a way it's a wow, it would be a little. But it's me it

makes a precious for me too. But what they say those biologists or no? Well,

it's like a poste with casco, no so. But well for what so

why are you imagine that's for what? According these biologists for

that in case of the the vonging the the the fund of the

vagina is the semen, all ingress that pen it,

it's like it's like it's like a full of a like a yeah, I'm not

I've been yeah yeah wow so that the the the

the the for the for the for the genes exact I'm

I'm I'm I'm like the I'm going to come to pop

so I'm going to come a chion chelian chenot condor cheleno wow That interesting.

That's interesting. That's all that's all so it's about the podcast well, well, about talking about

of the pair of sexual and of penetration pennevagina. Of course there's other ways of vinculars and

there's there's different orientations but in the case specific man, woman, no?

Well, those who study, the form of the form of the world, that in the infidelidad

that if we're not to get to get because the pairas homosexuals. Exactly,

yes, they're they're, they're they're in the In the parages homosexuals is much more tolerable, more common, that not

are exclusive, that they're not exclusive. So, all the parages homosexuals are masculine. And also because we've had to have to romper certain things, the people that not are those people who are heterosexual, like you. So, you know,

you know, you know, you know, paradigmas. Uh-huh. So it's much more easy to start to talk with your a pair when

you have you know, you know, it's much more easy to start to

talk about the net, let's get to like to because not you

to go to offend or to do to or something like a one of

you you're this line is more easy to runper the

other yeah I think is an opinion okay

the infidelity the can a A a a

a a couple of an accord and someone rompe that

that's an error or he is a is a an abuse? So, can consider

violence in the infidelity? To me I'm that I think that

it depends of the intentionality. I think the majority of the people that

have a relation extra marital no has the intention to

to lastimed a the partner to the intention. But, as a

intention, as the intention is, no had the intention, the other person,

the that's the wrong, the that's yeah, that's,

yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For the thing of the infidelity.

Because not more, the true, that you creas to that you were,

that was, too, or, well, that were No, forget.

That's that I do in the It's terrible, but that you're going to but that but that

you're going to say the things that's that's that's not that's not in

the majority are implicit and you want to my nobio and you yeah

and it got it's and a person says ah so you

imagine that it's it's it's it's it's the

intention I'm I'm I'm I'm the intention, no minimisa the no, no, and not minimisa the

that you have, the possibility of not to not engage. To fail, valentia. To say the fact, to be able to.

To detainer, before you, I can't say to, here I don't stay content, yeah no I'm,

I, I'm, I'm, I'm profoundly, but, you know I'm, or me

attract, someone else and I want to talk about you. I love with or whatever or so I like it or whatever.

So, what it's. Exactly. What is what I do what I do. Try to do you do

these strategies for that you know you ches to lose a relationship that you amas

to the you know you say because a person who has three children who has a

woman a business even and then they're and they they're they

have all they Or not to you're you're you're you're you're

you you're connectas profoundly with much other people that's what the

people don't know if you connectas no important at what level of this

level you can be at a minute a time we're we're gonna

we're we're gonna we're we're gonna so I'm so I'm so so much

because of every comment what are you are you are you are five five

questions or five things but I'm in these conversations but I think we

let me let me let me this of what the passion than the

that's is equal in all the cultures because we can we we're

we're we're we're how we manage this if I think

that passion that that curiosity how can be about

with a a pair with a couple with an agreement originally of exclusivity or how

you can you know when you don't desire to you know how present as that's so we have

some examples many practical what people play the the the confidence and also that we can

analyze we do the segment if the next the next the the

sexo the only the only the only the only type of the infidelity is the

sex or is it can be infiel without having sex. Because there will be who are people

because there are my, my genetic, or my body, no. Never, never, never did that.

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Very well. Well, we retom us, retomomomom the theme. Why peasant more the passion? Why gain

the calentura? A bit, to the people are people who are more the calentura? Or, in

terms of general, if well, the women, have been the women, and they're more in sex a long

of the day than the people, that's not means, that necessarily they're more relations

sexual than the more inclinated, to triangular a a relation or

are infieless. We're more infieles in other words. Or the women, you know, you know, that also

this has documented, that the women are the most they're in a relationship. Exactly, that

so is it. But they more, before they're not, they're not, they're more than the

majority still having more than more than the statistics they say, they're they're doing,

but they're because it's because it's more, because it's because The family The family

The family Depends Feregian Exactly But when the woman Yeah no Depends financially

Yeah no it's Not so No no No, exactly I'd Exactly They're

They're They're They're They're They're Much more Tranquility To get

these conversations incomodas Now You said Something In the Segment

In the Major Part of the people That's Infiel Not

It's Although You know Do you do it With the You're There are cases where

some desquite, yeah. There are cases, but in terms general is, the majority no, the terms of general

is calentura, variety of the opportunity. Of course there's there's there studies,

no, that are you do you do you know, that are men, men, so the

idea, the issue, the infidelity has very little to do that has more to be

with being seen seen me seen me listened, especially, important, admired,

admired, admired, so that is the sex no, and a But sometimes no

get or not get to have sex or they're much time in the game of the seducion

and surging amissaries profound. I'm hear from my wife, woman,

I recognize my wife. I appreciate. The appreciation is basic. The other day was having a meme

there in Instagram and he was a woman and and he said he said he

said he said he said he accept you give me the rest of the rest of the

life and he says yes yeah sure that chistoso, but it's not

not so it's not not so it's not not so why I'm it's like it's like

it's it's and that's that's ideal to take to make in

count how they're how the things those those things in a

relationship because it's true because it's that she's that she

she's that she's not not not so this

this this the control normalisis the You enter's to to be a

to be a a second to make immediately to be a get to say when what,

that's not. Oh, no, that's a not, it's a... No, imagine it's

a business where the two soios or soci principales, that's just just the family or the

pariah is a new a business. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Exactly, exactly.

It's a person, a person, a somebody is someone who not we're not not going to

do we're not going to we're not quite we're not we're not we're a new

a purpose in common us motivate us we're and we're we're and we're and then

the passion to sacuding to do that because that's I want to you want to

you to I'm to have I'm the certain to that I'm I'm

not you don't you don't you you go with other person because then

I tiemble of MEDA How me assurances that's no

there and the people want to sure but no there's

nothing of the guarantee zero guarantee when you're when you

do you do we have to make make you

make a of that uncertainty there insertitum Exactly exactly so

conscientious and accept it because it You can accept but if

not you adopt as amigablely you, you know you know a lot of I'm

accepto but I'm sure you think. The majority of the people to not you

don't you go to see a hotone to get a and and they concentrate

in the act sexual when the infidelity or the tangulation of the

relation if the triangulation of the relation or the the car

the grietta it is it since the communication now is a good in the parke,

and you start, or you start, that's, that's, that's intimidate in the communication

with other person, the infidial infidiality and it has to consider that in a partner that

a person, that's a person, we can get to a level of, you know, predisibility

and, quotidianity, without the effervescence, I, no? For the custom,

in the routine? But the custom, but you're about, sexual. No, no, no, in the interaction, in the communication, in the day-a-day.

It's a great paradox. Because the enamoramination solicita sercania. So, when we're not we're going to begotte-ed to the pair of the time. Because we're enamored, and because the same naturalization

to say, reproduce, so even though, women, or an woman, a woman, it's the same. The naturalness to push on, for so,

but so, but paradoxically, the most we're more we're we're we're we're

we're because we because we we're we're taking the oxygen the air exactly

and what is the oxygen the light the liberty for me is the liberty is the

is the is the no I'm I'm I'm I'm I've been

I've been I've been castada with Miguel 31 31 years but

I'm I'm totally totally freedom, you know, the distance that you

need to take. Well, I'm going. Okay. Totally. I'm sorry. What the

part is that when you want to do you want to make distance and you do, and you do

do it, and the other you know that's a liberty. It's that no, it's consensuous.

Or I have to be consensualed. No, consensuado, how? So, we're, so we're

so we're people, and the person with the your companion of life and

not of CELda no like exactly like the like the part of the

the the chiste is that not the no no you force you know but

but but reversing the point of the distance the oxygen

is liberty of distance when when it after

the end the well it's going to the enorm the

thing that we're a three months and three years are

are diminuting these hormones and neurotransmisories in the Cerebrose, then we're seeing a Pairja distinct, so, yeah we've been with qualities negative, things that we saw during the enamoramination, and it's much more predesible, is made made by other substances in the Cerebroseph. And it's more, more cotidian, more predesible, more calmed.

And there is when they're when the ganas to be able to see that enumoramont. Eventually, can surge, with someone. With someone. And if they're more. Because, even, because, because, again,

because, the same person, not you can't even be able to love. That also is demonstrated Neurologically. They've done done studies with resonances magnetically.

Yeah. That's good that you know that's everybody me to be a me like saying you're the

only that's bad the notice. So, like, like, like I'm saying, but no,

me going to get a 25 years. Then I'm to get to five years. It's like yeah. The distance.

The distance. There is so, but when you're you, you're is to not

to do not to do everything is it's to have individuality that's so today

there are people that are to be used because they're not living to be together or decide to or have two recamars

or to have two recamars or are in different and all this or pairs of and all this

is for it's for I'm going to say a barbarity is it's it's

for the dismedited importance that we we're going to we're doing a parake

stable. I'm sure. Desmedita. So, it's like the most important

is the sex, no. No. In a a pair stable, no. And what is what is

the most important. And so, and also yeah, but not always with me.

Because with me it's to be to have to give, the four,

five, six, seven, as I know to me after me after me,

the well, there's a much For that I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, but,

about the infidelity, there's a, there's a lot of, because I, for example, I'm going to the infidelity. But the

people think that I'm that promote. Because, because I'm about that. I'm not to learn to

love, without. If you're talking about to not exclusivity. I'm I'm talking

that you never to the person that you amas. And that you could

and that you can't keep you can't build with this person, that you

have a purpose, that you have a connection with a That is more, I think the other day me said,

I think I think I did a much liberty. And I did. And I was, how did you? How did you? When did you?

When did you? It's a a lot of what you have you have and that you have to do. But, but to

love, that's the thing that I'm got to talk. There, I always I'm talking also

of infidelity. Yeah. I, Adriene, I, you have to have to question because the

program in Radio Formula I resisted much and I'm you know because I'm

trying to like I'm trying to get to you know but you're to ask you know

I'm because I said you're that you're sexual then you said

you're I'm I'm my orientation is bisexual I'm I mean I'm

I'm my first my first my my first okay 10 years 10 years

and you did you decide with a After many years, these 10 years, these 10 years, are from my adolescence,

until the 26. Then, like she, and I, with her, I'm trying to love without control.

It's with her that's, after five years, amandons profoundly, she, she,

without intention to damage, me, I'm in an arreggle of exclusivity. The, the,

the same, the the, the classic, the classic, the, classical, of,

but is implicit. It's implicit, right? So, so I'm so I'm about the heart rot. I can't

about how you're going to you know, you know, you know, it's brutal to think, it's a

fear of a horrible. Yeah, because you start, what I'm doing a lot of the sufficient.

Surely I don't know what she does, the other person is better than I now.

Now, how you have that clarity of to go to continue to continue with my

partner to my 21 years when we decided we pardoned. Peronast the infidililitary. Pardoned

I, I never, I never, I've got to pardoner, I've to understand what

was living, solter the truth, to, understand that, as she, I said, no it

had been not the thing, the thing I'm, you know, he had to say,

how me could do so do that because I thought all the time. Is that

how could do you do this idea? But how I'm not I'm doing I'm doing

that's asking him that's what she is what she is what she's what he

and what he needs in this moment? There I'm to learn to other

way. And he did, I'm I'm I'm I'm trying to

find to control you but no And I've seen and nobody me has seened

and there many many few examples in this life of how do you have to be super patient

How's years? 21 I was super chiquita? Super chiquita But I imagined when you

did a therapy? No, no no no no, I didn't know,

I don't I was, I didn't, I had a fascinated, but you'd but I knew,

but I did the goal that you entered the light of I was a questioner, Nat.

That's a-so-s-see. And I was just-sexual but not the love of a pair-a-law, the love familiar. The one of you go to the closet, me volted to be like, saying,

well, you know, I don't know. So, my question-a-mient about the love and it's not of the love of the power,

of the love, of the love for any person, for what you going to have to love to someone because no

can't your because no your well. Now when that's when that

when it's so I'm not going to I'm madurated my ideas.

For so I think I'm a live think years after years after

years years years after 10 years after the one

he to Miguel to my life and I

have five years to have given a relationship a love

a all the relations are are there's or no or no you can't you can't you can't

so is abertita the door let's you can't you can't it's a so that's a so that's a

I think because if you want in any whatever moment you can't and that

I'm that you say that I'm that you're that's that you don't serve

to have a relationship because there's because there relations about the infidelity that

Obviously, no has been amorous. And the majority of the people that's another

that's the other people, that's the problem. That's the is the infidelity. That's

not you not the I'm not. Exactly. As well, as I think to give, I'm not

to give to our life, even we're to come up to that person, we can't give us. That's always

that's a possibility. That's always. Yeah, I'm detain. I'm, or not I enter or not I'll do you,

you know, you're going to. You're going to. You're not. The desire. Well, no, the desire. And that I don't

have sex or no to say that's that I'm doing that's having intimacy with someone. Exactly. And that's

or that you can't. Or that you can't. Because here the theme principal, I is,

is that no is possible that you ames to a person and at the same time. Or that you

love you to be able to the time. So when you, Because one of the of the questions

that I'm here is what the role is, because the confidence when we're to pardoning a infidelity, always is the

thing of how I'm going to and that's assuming that you going to go to get to the same

to the same to this what you've not is desechar the accord of

so so that the confidence the confidence of what? Of what? What?

What? We're not we're doing my very peculiar manner to think about the confidence. To be.

For me, the confidence is tolerar, not know to be. A me nobody me quits

my confidence. I'm to think in it. But my confidence I'm a person

supermating that's with this tolerances to the uncertainty. No, I know

what's going to be that's good. You know that you're

you're not, because to live without expectations. No, I, I'm, I'm

always. . Yes, always. But I know I know I know there's

that no I'm okay and that she she or I had we had to continue our

relation and we did we we're doing five years more learning learning much things

those okay no and I still I'm imagineate Mark

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm so I know I'm I'm sure I don't

a that quadritor. To that us an absence of a certain and I can live with that and I'm

going to certain expectations because it's human because of you know how you do you know

how you do you do you know impossible so when when when I

know I know I know I know I'm I'm never I'm nevered of him

and even I didn't care you know you're you're you're never

to have never no no No, I, in my bisexuality, tiento to enamoramore me much more more than men than women. It's something that

to learn to learn the bisexuality. As you know, it's 50-50. No, no, Flan. No. It's fluid.

It's fluid, but that in every person is different. I tend to end up to love to men. And obviously, you're saying to

Miguel, oh, Miguel, I've been in a relation with a child, a few years. The day, one, that I

know I, And I And I I'm I'm I'm at I'm I'm here

I'm here I'm but but he said what and he he's

me kept being so I'm that's that's not no it's of

not because he what? What? Yeah because I think he said what

what? If you went to he was his classes of English figure see that

he said he he was he is that you is that you

said he he surprised but I I, that he was very

enamored to me. We have to appreciate the enabornament. Yeah, when you know in the right.

Yeah. It's to use the intelligence always. Yeah. If, if,

if, so, I, so I, did it, I mean, I was, I mean,

I was, I'm going to say, I'm not, I'm, I'm not a question, of love.

Nothing more, that's the thing, he said, so it I said, and what you want,

a permissito? And he said, no, Mike. More like a beka, you know, a beka. No,

I'm, I'm sorry. Permanent. Permanent. But it's like, with this liberty,

with that I began talking, is with the I'm the clientes to get

to talk, because he let give chance totally to let me I was to let me

let me in the carce. He said. He said, he advirtee. Okay, and so

then you can't have infidelity because he he entered? We're not we're not. We're not we're not

we're not we're not we're just to have our without we're going to let's get when we're

we're going to ask if he also I'm talking about if he's not, you know, yeah, you maybe you're

if he's if he's because if you're of that now, you have to receive benefits

because there many people that just want to go to go to unilateral and the

country and the country and the other and that other so we're in the Mexico. No,

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of this? How can how can you can you really you really you're for being

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declarations of Adrian Rinking in the program. I'm always a book very.

No, but that's good that's good. Just all just to hear that

no no tranquillity yeah yeah, so how good how much

how so it's how they oh, yeah that that this person is

who I'm doing. And so I'm going to and I'm a quito obligation. And that I'm saying, no you're,

it's, it's what I'm doing. You know, it's what I'm there. But it's for all right. No,

in that I mean, I mean, I'm going to I mean, I don't want, I know, I'm a revolution,

but I'm, and I'm and you're to say it. Yeah, Clavie Rampato, so in your consulta,

what can you can't that can't that can't be able to be they're not at a time

of their in what sense? In that to affirm that they can't have interest

in a person, but they're in a relationship and a little and a

marriage if you could be I'm in terms general to this is a example

of a example of but that's not they are they because they're

that they're to get to come to a molde I'm going to I'm

going to me to get to a woman a beautiful a girl

really family really Bonita, of Monterey and I was a year year ago that's done

we're in a relationship and we're and when I did know that I was trying to not be I'm

a family that was a good and a good woman and a good woman

and all but I was trying to be who was trying to to callific to that I was

to this I'm here there no there there's simply that in your

consulta is common that the people try to be who is? I mean, in my experience,

probably the majority degen to be the person, but not with the conscience of that they

are doing that's being the rebelia to be to be to see to the consulta,

not, I want to I want to I. I'm not. The rebellion that's the rebel.

The rebeli that's when that rebeli not when that I'm a trater in therapy and I don't

concience then you manifest your infidelity exactly you're tired you're tired you're exactly

I'm tired of I'm tired of I'm trying to try to be you're trying to and then you do you go and there's

right and there's because I put in the corner and it's for a bottom of the water and a better

a better a more a more a more a friend with having so having so

for so I always I'm always I'm that's a responsibility to

it's a responsibility social. I mean, not atreve to reveling to be a half, because no me atreve to do it, I'm afraid to do any idea. It's fine? It's not being.

No, I'm not saying, I'm divided. For example, if you would have said to, Miguel, look, I want, I want my beca, no? I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm maybe not, I didn't know, would have been that he

said it would be I'm thank you thank you thank you so I'm so I'm

so I'm so I'm what I'm know what we're saying we're talking we're we're talking

our relationship until the day of today of today still being a conversation

never we never we're and he what I said in the segment he also

he also he also you can not you can't you can't have a

relation like I have with Mike of a unilateral. No is amoros. We're not

a relation amorousal not abirta. It's, I'm I'm, you honor like a

person and I'm like that people who me to say, I'm to say,

and this you have to be thinking when we know what are the things you did you

what are what are the rules? The whole thing that's I'm a tragic. I've I've got

10 years five of to prove that the rules not function not for all the

end of that I think of you know if you want to put your put them you're going to

you're going to you're I'm really and you're you're you

but you you're that you're doing you're you're you're you know

you you know so you so you don't you're when you you're

you're you need to protect. Oh, but I'm going to tell me, tell me me, I'm saying, has to be

some limit? Limit always. Let's know. Let's say, let's know, not it's the same,

I'm like, no? No? No? No. No. It's the same, you

know, you're a question. That's what? That's what I'm going to. That's, that's a

question. Sure, of that and for that's the question there's a question.

Because not the And the same that you what I want is, well, I'm going to get me to vacations. I'll give to give a,

a lot of, I'm going to say, I'm going to say a barbarity. Let's say a bad bad. A me no costed

so much because I don't me consider a very much sexual. Ah. And there can be many

things. I'm, I'm, I'm, I don't have sexo casual. For me, it has to

have a connection. If, de missexual, is that you to be to be feeling something. Totally. So,

so, affective. So, something. So, and so I was, I mean,

I, I did, I did, I did I, I said, I'm really, I'm really,

and the enamoramination is exclusive. Aorita, no I have a agenda, no I'm

no I'm important, no I'm about, but I want to do this, I'm

want, to be that am, is a more, if it's free.

And if you you're going going to condos, now is free. And you know I'm

you know is a more. You know is polyamorosa. I'm not polyamorosa. Because I have a capacity

polyamorosa like I think you you know you're but what's the difference

between being polyamoros and not because I'm I'm pretty

it's but we're not exclusive no exclusive no polyamoros so in

my house I never I never I've where and my jita

that we were we're having we're we're not we're that's we're

that's going to do you know this story of love that

live in his parents but there's other in the polyamor if there

other I've had other I've had other I

don't know my has had not our question

and it and it for me I I don't I

don't have to And no I want to I'm not. Apart of the part of the

part of the is not the other. A bit of I'm a mind of you. See how

you do you do you get to the house and Mike says you know I'm content and

I'm sorry no no no that's that says a person with fear

so so my fear is talking who thinks who is who is who is

who who is he's my Mike me said you feel

Felice. Ben, Abrasame, pass me. I mean, I mean, but I'm not it.

No, I mean, I mean, not even so I'm not so I'm not sure.

No, no, no, no, no, no, so I'm so much

times, fickate what I'm saying. So, so many times that it

was easy to get it to do the long of the years, because already,

I'm I'm I'm, if I'm, but the same, the same, but the same,

to just to just to have to get back to get, it's basically a, so, not is that

you're doing, your beca, if it's more a sensation of liberty. It's that. It's that. It's that.

It's that. You know, you have to get to exercise. I'm going to say, I'm going to be able. The limit.

Yes, the limit. I see a limit. It's a non-negotiable. What is the limit? The violence.

Ah, okay, in the violence, ah, when I said, this is my limit, to Mike, me said, ah, no,

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm doing, and I'm sorry, prohibit, is a form of violence?

Hakeemate. Hakeemate. Hakeemate. Prohibit is a form of violence. Exactly. There's, let me,

I know, that's that, is that is that is. It's that is a form of a form of a problem of

a problem of question, why, why, Why prohibit is a form of violence? Because I'm sorry, because I'm restringinginging to the person and to his desires to do whatever whatever of their life.

No, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm repriminginging. I'm limiting. I'm, say, aplasting the necessities of other person. I'm basically, of all what they say. We're talking about other world, other civilization. It's another paradigm.

This is another paradigm. It's the life alternative. And it's not for all. And in that other reality, right, and not's for all the other reality,

no, there's a question like, if you're you're doing you're doing if you

prohibits, this is violence. Because I, I'm visualized saying something and I'm a problem. How would

say that? Sure. For restinginger. If you, if me restringes, it's violent for me. A me

I'd like, to know, don't know how, that the people would have been to do

like a video of my video of my life in rapid, for that they're what normal,

let's, I mean, don't think that there fiestas in where there were swingers and

polyamoros to my house, and I have friends swingers, and I have friends

polyamoros and I know, I'm friends of all, because I'm really a

diversity. But our life was very normalita, let us, the only extraordinary is the

form in that Miguel and us amos. That's out of the is out of the

ordinary because no we're not. We're we're going to talk about the podcast but give me

the advice finales so very practical here me quite I think

the the joy there many many joys but the joy

of this conversation is you be you be honest honest

with and if not you don't you don't the

paradigm of the society or the religion or the

religion or the If you're like it, if you're a little, if you're happy, perfect. No, no problem. And, there's, there's a lot of people that will be be able to be able to be.

The majority. But if you, not you feel as a gusto with this, it's like a, it's a piece of, that's the joy. See, you,

honrate to you, and with whom your relation is as a, and it's true or a betterer or a betterer with you.

Now, now, we're going with the questions finales. How I'm I'm

how I'm put words to this communication? Well, the communication is a whole a theme as we can

imagine, so that's like there's like a licenseatura of communication because finally

what is what is a pain to a pair of is to try to be a certain and that

I'm what I think and what I'm and that the time of transmit it not you not you

not you not you maltreatating or not you're not you're not you classifical

so what it's a pain to say is to talk in in a first person, no, of what I

desire, of what I want to know, of what I feel a comod, of how I feel comod, of what I'm doing this

relationship. So, not to be what about what you do you know. Or, to say that you are a

part of what you know, the way, that is the most way to communicate it.

In the other way, in the other adjectives, is dismembering those adjectives and transform them in what

they're in me, those conducts you are what you are saying what you or how you

you're trying, not to, not to talk about me in that communication. That's a much more to the other

person than if I'm a catalogue or the classific in an adjective, you know, of an in- an egoist,

you're a technics, a form of a flogation effective. Exactly. But I, I see

have a, it's what they're they're constantly how I can I say to

my partner that this accord of no exclusivity yeah not I'm

I'm I'm that I'm not about not about what you know that's

what you know what you're doing about what you're how much you're more you're

doing with her do you tell the part positive does let's

make the sure and invite to let's let's a if you invite to

other eight years but but we need to do certain changes because we've evolutioned and we're not

those most or at least I know not I'm and I know that you don't because the only that

is the change. So, and there you can't say you want to we're going to we're going

to do it and you know and tomorrow and we know we're not so not it's not easy

so there no there no it doesn't but I think to talk to

talk of you have to let's let's let's a question about a

question about that's the other person is I don't want to I'm not not a

question not want a not really an relation exclusive, I want to the subconsient

or the voice in the mind to say it's going to be a sufficient

not not you're because the relationship amortos is distinct that and if

if you try is this is a thing this is not what will

say my family, blah, blah, let's say and I'm going to I'm going to know I'm

doing this, I'm going to because of because of this. Because of a very frequently confunded we

confunded it with a relationship or we're diversification. That point is the most important

of what you have to talk the chist is detect, identifying if your relationship is

amorous or no. If you see live, if if you're if you know,

If no, but if we're, if we're going to see, we're going to say, you're not even, for what, you're infiel? Of no, of all, we're going to, we're going to, let's go to be in the program. Many people can't

be astustar for these conversations. But this is million times better than being because being infiel. Because being infiel, is violent. And it's very violent. It's aggressive.

It's romper an accord. So, no, do you make us accrues, not gregers, that's not, it's a decision. unilateral when there's one

that's supposed that they're doing a take me in count, not to make decisions for me.

To me I'm not really. I'm not sure. I'm not that's we're not we're not

we're not we're we're and as a time ago that he's a podcast and we're about

because he is abertamity not exclusive. He's Marko you're you're

very very valient because I'm like very many say And when

for the fin me a person, the 99.99% of probability is that

when I say that I'm not going to not be exclusive. No, who is not going to

many. Many, many, they say, if I'm, they say, I'm going to be the

feel, I'm going to be a person, to be a so I'm to be because I'm

going to this person. And there we're going to be there. There's a infidelity.

There And then the infidelity. And the double life and the double life, I'm going to let's make a

go to get a little bit of the yeah, exactly. Yeah, and then we'll see, we're going to do you know,

exactly. I'm very much more than, the contrary, there's to continue this conversation. Yes,

I'm very interesting. No, I think it I'm going to think we're starting. Exactly. Because they

are there many things. Clavia Rampatso if the people want to talk to go, get to

get a to the conseils, to be in a space in where there's no way to be

a lot of you can't help to help to get a honest, first of not to

get to find out of the media social. Like the The Verda Claudia

Rampazzo. In the city of Mexico I'm in the hospital Spanish,

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know I'm going to to do you know he's and he's a webinar to say. A webinar.

A webinar. A webinar. I don't want to bring to webinars. No, no.

That he decides if he comes and he's his liberty or no.

He decides. It would be very would be to hear his opinion. It's precious.

How how so how it transformed of the shock of hey, no I want to say

I'm, but I want to be exclusive. It's that it's exclusive. Sure, that no, no,

not took a shock. That's that's another episode. Thermalizal the reality. Thank you. I mean, me can't

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comments. Yeah, I'll read. No, because here he's about the pure love.

The pure love. It's about. It's no, all this is all

when when I'm the thing of the religious of a very much

there's that we there's there no, I'm a lot of I'm sorry

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