El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 364 - Psicópatas: ¿Cómo detectarlos y protegerte? - Begoña del Campo y Marco Antonio Regil

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

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Hospital Angels Health System Presenter A man psychopata and a woman psychopata utilizes the same instruments because when I think in a psychopath, the really I think

in much more men. Carescent absolutely of empathy. They'll do what that are necessary to get what they want,

without, what you do you know what to do you to do that they're going. You can't to have a

a psychopata or a psychopata in your life and even to give to encanto, of the portas

to the house, maltrapa, and he's over the rights of her, of his wife, of his wife,

of his children. Is it that I'm characterisical the the environment? The environment to put a

un- un-money- if you do you do you. Sure, so I'm too,

if you don't work, you know, you know, you're not that you're more easy, that you're much

a person, you can't be a cop- a, how? The structure family can modulate the impact

to to come to the world with a structure cerebral of psychopata. That is a probatita of what we're going to learn today in the podcast because it's a very serious,

we've been paid much, it has talked in other occasions, but we don't we'd have the opportunity to talk about it

with a neuropos. The theme are the psychopat what's, what is the cellopata? A psychopata

is a psychopath is a psychopath or thinks that is a person perfectly equilibrated and that what does it

is normal? how is how it's whether it's a lot can sanar mentally, so they can't

help or if you have those tendencies, you can't help us, they can't be people, they're able,

they're people, men, or women, or people, or leaders, that the people,

they're not people, or they're they're in people, and they're to be very interesting

the conversation, because we're going that says the science about them, and we

analyze or we talk about the theme of some or some some psychopaths famous.

So, it's with us to go ahead from us from us from us in this

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364 The podcast of Mark Antonio Regil is a production of RGEL Entertainment and all his rights are reserved Well, well, so good.

Fantastic-s. Super-felid to be here. Now, we're going to a lot of a question about but I think is very important

to understand because we know we're in the movies, we know in the stories, we've been

in the news, but you can't a psychopata or a psychopata in your life and not

even to give to get it's correct. Correct. I mean, they're with a band of a

boy of a psychopata. Not all all of all of them not all of all the not.

You're all we're not. Just right. To start to clarify, we're not, what is a psychopata

and that's a sociopath because the two words appear very commonly. What is

and that's and that's a person. Okay, I tell you, the the trustor anti-social

of the personality that the DSM, the manual of psychology American has included,

is, including, is, it's like two sub-modal For say, it would be the psychopata and the sociopath. The difference

between both is that the psychopata, for saying with a language very simple and very very cercano, is more civilino, is less evident the psychopata.

The psychopata can be a person that is in an organization, that is the president of a country, that can be the

psychopathsomatically. We're going to talk to them. And the sociopath is the that's the that makes a

little the risk, the kind of conducts antisociales from a very young-cito, the is very evident.

The difference between a psychopata and a sociopath would be or would be the thing in the

thing of the evidence at the way to perceive those, of how they're

how they're how they are infinitely more civil and the psychopath than both, and

both have in common some those, like for example the

lack of empathy and other we're about. Falta of empathy, so

they're they're they they're they're doing So, but what they does it does it

is a good, I think it's a lot, it's a bit, simply and yeah, it's just like, simply and

yeah, now, like, as I'm, a question, the thing is that, for example, the amygdala, in the, that is the

central of the world, in the Cerebro-Lymposional, the amygdala, has a time more reduced in

psychopatas and sociopathas. It's the, the vincu- and the and the of the

fear, is that, they're less fear, is a absolutely impactant,

is the usencia of fear, and also even the minor capacity of empathy, to connecter

emotionally with the person. Yeah. MNor activity. Here says Journal of

Neuroscience, what you are saying, shows a psychopata in the amygdala and the

cortex prefrontal areas related with the empathy and the control of the impulsus.

Exactly. The empathy would be localized in the memory emotional, pardon,

in the amygdala, and the cortex prefrontal is the control the impulses of the mitralat. They're in a circuit different

to the rest of the people. Of the fact, is that is that you can perceive differences functionales

in resonance magnetica functional. The resonance magnetic is different in a person human

that has a psychopatia that's a one that is. There are differences structuralal and yet

inelubbles is that is something that is a time that he'll prove. Of course,

I'll tell you to a case that's brutal. One of the most the expert

in the study of the person named James Fallon decided to do

do you to see what different morphological had the brain

the people who the people that's so that made in a

machine to a machine and he used the subject's people to compare the

Cerebros of one with others. Between them, his family, known, he's the same. So, he did a lot of process both images, is the same, the psychopaths that are in the Correder of the Mewartes, in a series,

and the subject control, he did a point, that in the resonances of the subjects control, there one that had a structure of psychopata. Oh! Oh, he was he.

is he James Palon who is one of of the major experts in the study of the psychopatia it's very

very very is psychopata has a structure cerebral of what's what's what he's he moved

totally his world he said how I I'm I'm a part of my life

that result that I'm I'm with a mother and then he he said he's

so you when you you're sometimes atyipic now we're also

if you in the conducts, how is a child. And his mother he said,

you know, is that you're some conducts very llamativeness. For example,

maltratan animals, and in fin, they're this type of conducts.

And his mother, or there is a example, of how the

structure family can modulate the impact to come

to the world, it's how the environment can modulate

the genetica of this is brutal. This have some

connotations brutal. James Fallon, this man, imagineate what he's supposed for him.

I mean a documental of his life and the fact he put those his pales of

because he lived. That that inquietude that he had him for studying

that of the psychopatia is precisely for that that pulsion that during the

very very very very important. I mean like three questions but

to be part so so so it's a psychopath. Is genetic or is experience? The two things. It's saying, there's a part

genetic and a part of ambient. How is it is a part genetic? In psychology, it's used much the gemelos monocytical, which are those that come with the same cargene genetic exact.

Mismusperma, same ovul. It's a genetic is identical. So, they're also in studies of psychology because when they're

separated at nace, because, for example, are adopted in different families, there's clearly

How the environment modula the genetic because they're in in a home different, the alimentation different, everything. What's what? What's happened? That's a lot of a 60% approximately 40 to 60, of the environment with respect to the genetic. It's like if there's a gene that predispone to the psychopatia, but that gen is active with the environment.

James Fallon, for example, had that gen, that has a gen, that's a gen, that's a sir, is alive, but the environment not was because it was in

a good very functional, is that very structured, with much love. At final, look at

what modula that that predisposition to damage is the love. What can stop,

that's the pushion is the amount. It's the epigenetic. It's is a

dispirate that the thing. The style of of life, the

love, the love, in this case, is the, the, the, the,

when a little when a moment that's, you can, or, or maybe

be more more, more, more, more, is and then, and then,

obviously, if you have a predisposition and you can't, in a hog , disfunctional,

the genetic. The American Psychological Association, AP, for their sighinges in English, estimates that the 1% of the population general present rasges psychopathic. This is that the 1% of the population nace with that genetic? Or the 1% of the population

manifest? Ambals. And fathie that the 4% in organizations. This, if I don't recall, is the 1% population general and in the world of the organizations, of the finances and the other.

It's the other. The organizations attract a a percentage more than a personage more of a psychopath.

The psychopata has like, for example, he doesn't the power, he doesn't the status. So,

so it's in places where there power and money. No, we're going to get in

an O-N-G. The psychopata has, where he's where he's, where there power,

where there power, where there are and, also, it's this type of institutions, because he does equal to cut her the

head to the other way to get to get to get. In positions of power, there is where are the psychopaths. That's not the sociopaths. The sociopaths,

you have been those who are those who are armed, they're saying, they're like, it's other modus operandi, it's

different. The psychopata is more civilino. Psychopata is, imagineate, that's a senior major, a man a manor

and the the thing is there in the ventonial he wants some of the actions that knows, he

will be to know, that's that he does a lot. Because he got a commission. That's a psychopata. When we're

about psychopat to the mind, it's a assesino in series and not necessarily is.

The 1% how hundreds of people you or you? I mean how many

psychopats know, much. Many are are perfectly integrated in the day to

that. is the sir of corbata that's to go to the bank and you and he's

a lot of a person or a man or a man or a a man who has been to that he

has a money, even a money, but it's the way, they're about,

that's the psychopata, no has been not no tally absolutely for nothing.

They're they're integrated so. So if the policy has power the policy attracts

a much psychopath to have many presidents, senators, senators, representatives, in the cameras.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Those are. The dictators are psychopaths. Fischapes.

Chavez in Venezuela, now Maduro, Fidel Castro in Cuba. Is that they're going Musolini,

all these, Franco, all the dictators, all the people, psychopats. Here we took a Porfiro Dias.

All the people that that takes the power and no let us let's and abuser

are psychopat now also it's there's a other people that maybe the story not even

have been been able to be psychopats and we know for example those people that are people who are

people who are people who is a lot of but of the doors for the house maltrap

and in the and he and he passed on the rights of the of her or of his

family or of his people are they're not they have

to be violent physically No, no. No, it's the man alcoholic to help the

woman. No, that's the no, they're going to not. No, no, no,

not for nothing. They can be the person physically, never, but that's so, they're going to

do that something is that what is that they're that they're they're doing that they're

they're doing to do to what they're to be and they're absolutely of empathy.

They're all what they're what they're what they're want, without for nothing,

what you do you know, what you're to do you, it's not not even. They're not necessarily

they're saying that they're not sure, but they're not. They're not they're not

really that's very important. They're can't think that they can't they're they're really

not they're they're they're not much but they're uncapac and they are in

not even of the characteristics differentials of the psychopata according the AP,

the association of the sociology American is that they have some just sexuales out of the common.

They're not, not are very typical. Then they're really much the money, the power, the status. They have

some characteristics that, you really, they put the skinned a lot of so they're not really,

they're in their romantic, and they're even't they're to get those people, to be to the

people, they're going to go to a person a good. A psychopath with a psychopaths, they're repelen, like the poloes

positive or negative of an imam. It's not because they're not. They're not. They're not. They're reconnoisse. They're looking. Sure.

It's where they can get, and, also, they're, are very intelligent, very encantadores. Those are rasles of the psychopata. It's a, it's a

thing very scalofrial. It's a thing that, again, to the people Fidate that It's a It's like

a morbo social, the theme of the thing of the same that's because there that mystery I remember

to learn a work of a work of Dostoevsky Grimeney and Custy and he said about Raskolnikov, the protagonist, that's, and I'm not, it's, a

Cipata of the book, because I'm atlipa, very this person but well this is a Ryevsky I've explained

to the way very but in the mohally the psychopath not necessarily has to

not necessarily need to get a humanizing to the humanizing to the people

not this is impossible to not to talk the time but the president of the United Donald Trump

that he entered and in the first day says we we're literally to cast indocumentate

so they can go to to trap them in the churches and in the So you can be a

doubt that it's a question, I'm not the neuropsychologist but I'm the whole the profile.

It's all the profile. You're able to be with the heart of the hand of a

house? No, I know. No, obviously, no. No, obviously no and me called much

the moment in where this was this was a obispa a post in the

church episcopal in Washington in the first day that does a discruce and he he's

a question with the people gay, with the people and the type of start to be

and he said it was a a pessimism a psalm no, no, there's empathy.

Empatia not we could be to write a Donald Trump as a human empathic

so. So, then it has the rasked clearissimo. Yes, is

I mean, Feehate, he cant to the power, he's the world, the world,

it's, it's not very common, is it's in a place where can't do you,

and then obviously, things, as nobias as so, as people suffering and and not

commovers in the minimal. As final, is... How about the women?

How about the women, it's, it's a lot of that's a kind of, it's a lot, it's a find

there. We're going to find in those strats. And that you do you do you

know, it's not occulted, you're supposed to adular it. And if you're critiqued then,

it's, then you're to do you. There's and they can't conquist a millions of

humans. That they are they're they're going. But conquist because the 80% of the

people, there's there's a studio, the studio of Timbar or Brachikera,

more more than the people are very manipulable it's just to that someone with

a uniform or he'll a button or peg a bit of a there's, there's there's.

There's a experiment. The one of the last the discargas electric is very long but the

question is that there's that they do they and that the majority of the people are

that they're that is just to let's this is this type of this type of person

to do this this is this is how could have there's many people

there's people they could do it. And it's because they'd discargated the responsibility to see them, because they had ordered to someone who has been a uniform. What happens?

If these people they're like the power, they're putting in a place of power and they're down to manipulate, is that people under their jug to manipulate, they're, they're not going to kill them directly they. Manipulam, for that others do they're the same.

So, at the final. And no we don't affect me. It's just, no me affect me. then as I don't I'm not sure the person when I'm

in the case I'm not effectively and that's indifference is what it what causes the

other people a lot of does it can do something because the most part of the population look to

look to be to look to look to look yeah yeah we've been in experiments

social no that are actors that fing an man trying to cause a

a woman in the parada in the carada of have done, I've seen in videos

Spanish, where nobody says nothing, and there's a guy who's a guy, in the parada of the bus,

and nobody says nothing, maybe a woman, go and so a matter, but the rest of the people,

no, I mean, I did another experiment also of a master, that's,

he's, you know, the first day class, and you, you know, you're going, and you,

he's, you know, so, you're, but why, you're, you're, not, you can't

try, and when when they when they they're asking to them they're going to and the students

start to be able to say, yes, yes, yes, I'm doing, I'm doing this. And they did nothing.

Why don't they defended? Sure. It was unjust. The chick had been not bad.

And it made me made sure that they did that and they didn't know. That's what

was what was going to say. What you're going to learn to tell you in many

classes. No, no, what a pedas of election of life. So those are the psychopatas

do they want and nobody protest. So we're always we're used to live in three psychopaths. We have normalized. You, see what I'm bullying in a college the kids, there's a bit of a bully, or two, or those who are those who are, and there's a

and then there are some that they second. It's that they're doing what the other does, for pertenance to the group, for what they're, for what they're, for what but are manipulables. And it's and it's

the society is. And for that are the injustice and at the end of the end of

a hypocrite there's a hypocrite is a being this podcast he says I'm a

psychopath and it's no no no no no no for that they're

they're they're they're they're they're they're they're it's a

misfunction of you're with more more and with at the final, what's what's they're

that they're normalize that they're that's a way of being in the world. No,

they're not they're not they're not to give help. If you do you do you

do you do you know, it's not you know. He's and he and you

know. No, you're doing the studio where they put you put them on a

situation, they put in a in a panace words neutras message

words like with about torture torture emotional, torture, love, and in his

cerebral, it's a plan. In your cerebral, in the brain, in the brain of persons empathic, when you hear or you hear words or you see words with content

emotional, your brain is different than when the content is neutral. In the suyo, it's not you can't say, it's

like if you are you talking a Japanese and you ask you to tell you, you can't tell you,

not going to make that reflection of, oh, I'm going to do do you, I'm doing it, I'm doing no, they're doing, no, they're doing never, for that's reintegrate. So, all the people that trafficked with slaves, that those

would helpia, that was that he was plodata, with the Bible in the hand. With the Bible, the same, they're also, that's another thing, the cosificing to be human, he not, he'll give the rank or the condition of being human, that is,

they're like the is like the, and so, and so the formula is the same, no, the Jews are children, not are the non-sumannes. It's the

anti-semitism. Effectively. Or the the Afrikanos are like other species, another thing. Ah, then

those deshumanizing. Or the animals no, the animals, no, they're not, the corriers of to-

are, they're, they're, they're, they're, with their with their with their

under those pretexts, so, so, so, so, it just, there's,

there a reasonament. To care of to himself, yes. But is that the psychopata, even even,

even though sociallyly is disapproated because an assessinat obviously is socially disapprobate,

for him, under his point of the are able to be able to be able to placidably without any

non- type of consequence to their conscience because no, no, they're not

torturing animates. Yes, is the psychopata sadico, there's like two subty into the

psychopata, is the psychopata normal and the sadico. The normal is the is the careté absolutely of empathy and the psychopata

sadico is the that's the that's the that's the with the suffering of other being that's

so is. So, it's, they illuminate in the cerebris in the when it

yeah, a bird or a dog, be a a vaca be a human be a human

be that's the that's the human, that's making it psychopata sadic to

a child to do that's a person That's. So is. So, there's their areas

of pleasure in the cerebral every way that maltrata or does suffer to other human, or a other animal

or a, whatever, whatever's that's, there's, there's many, many many famous.

We're doing a pausus. We're going with Benoia the camp neuropos about the psychopata,

going, we're going, we're, we're, I'm going to talk about, you're going to talk,

you're going to be able to they're, they're they're, they're, they're still, the, the women and

psychopaths are there have been a childs that have been in psychopaths for abuse. Those have

rehabilitation or not there are, what are those conducts atypics of the children and have a list

here, there's a list here, but we're a pause. And we'll keep them and we're

getting to this to obviously, obviously, also, we'll be how identify to

someone, who is a psychopata, right, for to know, to know, and if

you're you're seeing this program and you say, is, is it? Is it? I'm, I'm kind of, how how to know how how to try it?

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Begoia of the camp, Neuropsychologist is with us. Then, a very,

uh, a, a, a, a, a, a woman, psychopata,

they use the same herraments. Because when I think in psychopata, the fact I think

in much more people, the most most famous of the world, the majority that I have

a list of some of some, but the majority are more in women? They're more

noise. It's is a person, the psychopata of a human, because hephor

more the psychopata a woman is a violence more civilina more psychological.

So, evidently has passed or has transcended more the

psychopath to a woman also also there's the theory of the testosterone

and that's that's like inhibes more the self-control

but no there's significant in the number in the percentage of

women and people manifest the un different but

but do it's about women women of psychopat

no no no no no there this this

this diary the world journal of personality disorders, the diary

of the disorder of personalities, says that the women psychopaths tend to use the manipulation emotional in

major measure than the men who are more propensos to the violence physical. So, is.

So, okay. Yes, and, they have, that they're that, yes,

they, have the, every one uses those their uses the own, the

manipulation is a form more civilina and the force physical is more masculine.

He says here, subraying what we said in the segment anterior, a study of the university of Cambridge

revealed that the psychopaths are a 25% more propensos to have success in careers of high risk

as finance or the money. We've talked about a little and tal quite,

fithes. They're in a 4% if I don't remember well, is that 1%

in a 1% in organizations. Always are going to where there money and where there's power.

And we're in that the psychopatists can be people who are people, like the anti-cristo

as you know, like you know, how to do you know, in the Bible, that's going to be a bit,

those are the psychopaths, tal-called. And can't people, and kind of, hyper-intelligent are,

sects religious too, they're very, manipulan to other, the, the leader of a secta,

is a psychopath, a psychopath, capable, to be that we've said, that is

suggestionable and manipulable. Okay. A bit, a bit, a parat, can't

recover? Or not can't? It's a very... No. No, no no

no. No, it's a eximente in a decision. Degate, no is a

a person. A psychopath is a human, that has a lot of different, but that is perfectly conscientious of

what he does, but he does it not an eximente. What happens? That's they don't recognize

that they can't a problem and they don't them because as they they're in they're in they're in

they're doing so they're so they're so they're so it's not they're not they're not they're

a priori ohho there could have some but generally generally

it's that they're not, they're there's this this this

this this is this suffered abuse for his father biologic, which is horrible,

and he's a lack of empathy, the fault of empathy, that not you have to do you get to

do you have been even more more more and compasive, but in the case of she developed

of empathy and incapacity to develop to develop vinculululul and show things,

like torturances, like tortur animals, that's, that's, that tortur animals is a rasm

is a real, it's the You see a a man who tortures animals that he gets a

dog, that torture a that's a that's a that's basic. The psychopath is a catta

he's like because when they're so they're so they're they're a

sure the way of a person to a person to be part of the parents, they're in

a good those ralgo because we're not some we're not sure, the As a measure that they're growing, as are so intelligent,

what they're doing, they're going to be to make those racers. They're saying, they're going to beattice, but no they're going to do with the other. Sure. They're not going to do. Practiccant with animals. And then they're going to... And then they're going to...

For example, the people that torture animals in a sport, between commies, because there are many sports that are based in torturing and to kill, but they're saying that's art... Yes, camphaled. ...sexual. It's a... ...secustifican the conscience, defraffat... of art, but really

is a barbarity. You're doing to a person, you're doing to do you know, and you can't make you do the want, it's that you're going to, it's a man, but you're maltreating an animal. But they're saying that the toro

naceo for that, and it's a part conscientious. It's a part conscientious. But it's a racco-in-law, then? No, no, no, no. They don't have to be psychopatas. It's a person who matthos, no-tina- not-to-its-you-croped because it's a hypocrite

justifies that violence umparada in an art is that he'll he'll call art and that way he

self-justificing to make that but it's like the causification of the animal it's like if you pass a

mosquito and you you say well it's a mosquito you don't you don't you know

you're with the toro or even with other animals to those they're

maltrating amparated in let me let's the deport We'll, let's hearth,

let's call them to, let's do you, but not have to be psychopaths, so what's, so what's, in the brain, or in the ganadery, that they mark with a yearro

and they're quen, or they're or they're or they're or they're to torturing or they're to do you.

It's culture. That's not psychopatia. Is, where we put the ralita? It's delicate. That's a culture. That's a culture.

It's like, for them, As they've seen of his parents, of his abuelos, it's normal. So, for them, it's normal. It's normal. And it's something that has normalized. Like who had enslaved? Like the people. And so forth. It's a lot.

It's a lot of those. It's a bit of day of day of day. And I think in that, I hope that in a future is, I hope in a future immediate, be a disparate, maltreat. And so that's all right. In Spain, they're in a cabra of a campanario. You're just, you're just, you're trying to turn.

Forgues, the... the foo, the porno. To the poor stupers, it's incultura. I call it culture, but is incultura, really. Because that is in fact, it's

a thing, but not they're the way to be because they're doing for a culture. In what moment the torture animal or the torture to another being a human,

we know that is a psychopata versus something cultural when no it's a culture when no the culture and when

when no is un, no, not is un, no, the paraguas of the social,

the paraguas of the socially accepted, if here were normal, we'd normalized,

maltratar perils, in China they're in the countries, Korea, yeah,

for God. So, if here was a something normalized, not we'd not be a

disparate, because it would normal. At the finalize all the type of

but when something not is a normalized culturallyly and implicate, the suffering of other being, then we're talking

yeah of a psychopath so, it's not, they're doing it's not, they're doing, what they're doing, what they're,

what they're, so they're so they're , so the kids, Thomas, pardon, let me terminate with the example,

no, no, no, no, we're, also, we're talking about this. Well, and said, tortured animals, he had

a mano his arm no and he also expressed he asked and he expressed a desire to make a

his parents adoptive. Beth Thomas was submitted to a treatment and he recupered.

Well, that's that's that is that she was that was a was a anger

was being an being abusated by her biologic and he had the

poor creature, a great and a but he had a cyclotot

then she she Or, there'd have to be her No, I know would have to be able to see, I'm

going to investigate if that Cerebrough has a structure of psychopata because I'm convinced that if she

has been has been studied. Because reverting a psychopatia that's very... But here here says that

it's not a sciopata so... So, so it's It's a could revertire It's could revertit

Exactly. It's very interesting. It's very interesting. There's, there are many, Ted Bundy, assessing, in series, confessed to have been metado at least 30

women in the decade of the 70. One of the best, she was caught, was, and was assassinated, was manipulator, but it was charismatic, no had empathy,

he maintained an image of a good a good person, nobody suspecting what was doing. Typical. It's typical.

Charles Manson. I, I, in Topanga Canyon, in Los Angeles, there where I was Charles, Not in the house,

but in the area, it's a little bit of a little and there's a much more a lot of

people, because this thing is very attractive much. It's very attractive. You fiftate that the

movies of psychopat and the series, it's something really, very, very,

man so it's not much, Manson, not made the family Manson in 1969, and manipulated

to do his followers for that they were manipulator, it was

a character, and was good to control the people. There's many of

those sects and groups, not? You know, those that were the people, because I

said we were to go to go to a lot of a lot of religions.

He has that that's a incant is that are very

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so

so, they're to dominate to the rest of personalities

more more manipulables. Yes, Jeffrey Dammer in the United called the Carnicerro of

Milwaukee assassino a 17 men around between the 78 and the modus

superandi including abuse sexual dismemberment and cannibalism and then was part of the

the world that's like Hannibal Lecter no yeah they're thinking yeah

yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah so so so so

so Clarice so those are those are those are those

are we know one in our life. It's very curious, you know,

there's you know, there's how you know, a little right, when you

know, when you know, but a few minutes, boasted about, the, if you

have been to think, if you you have done a psychopata and you bostezas,

the who, the, the, he's psychopata, no is a psychopath,

possibilities, for not to say, no, I'd say, no norah, they're saying, if you want to detect a

psychopath, buste, sus, And if not boasted, you know boasted? No,

it's something infallible, but, but they've done that it is a percentage,

if not they're not not they, because, because they have less neurons spego,

because the thing of, the of, the empathy, the fact, empathy,

the you bostezas and the delante no bosteza it. It's been it's a hyperactive because

I've done that I've done to be boasted and I've said, you're very active. I'm going

to sell like the doctor that's exactly. Like James Fallon me going to make a

reason yeah to let's the rutas between the mictala

and the short frontal but I'm boste but it's because

I'm because I'm because I'm in beta beta alto and

and because she because she also. I'm oh, he's boasted

and me has been to the head to the study, in plural, because this is it's a trinity

also, the world, he has been more probabilities to bosteastern when the person that has been

so I'm never he never never, the marid that's that's dangerous that

how dangerous now, now bocestev before to start because we did we did

we did we did this is the second podcast of the day then you're

You're agotado. A bit agotado. Now, what is the difference between, well, we'll make a pause-to. When we go ahead, we'll rebecca, and we'll be the difference

between a psychopata and a manipulator, because are two things different, no? The psychopata manipula. But not because someone manipulator and say that's a psychopath.

The manipulation is a characteristic of the psychopata, but no signific it that the same manipulator, necessarily. Well, we're doing

in the peace and we'll let us a little to enter us more in how

to know a psychopath and if you are doing the program and you say oh yeah I'm

that I'm so you're you're asking is that you're not you're because no it's

it's not not it's not a client of this podcast for no no no no no

no no no no in the minute three I think I'm I'm

this part this part of this part of effectively of Well, how to help us.

So, if you think you think you have some risk or you know, can receive help, what is the difference

with a manipulator? And well, and we're we're doing with the thing. It's very,

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understanding that is a psychopata, is with us, de Goa of Camp a neuropsychologist. And, and before I go to the court,

we said, what is the difference of a person manipulator, is a manipulator, me you're just manipuling, to be a person, you're a psychopath.

The manipulation is a rass of personality of the psychopath, but no it's implicate, no signific that the person that's a manipulatory carethca absolutely of empathy, that is a ralgo, sin a quackle. You can be manipulator

for that person that you have to do what you do you comevien, but to feel empathy, is a part of a certain moment, if the person can move, you're suffer, you,

to feel your pain, you can connect to emotionally with the person, and regular, even.

Yeah. The psychopata, you know, has no has in any aspect of his life, no it has

with his children, with his wife, with people, with the no, they don't

have any other other thing, is that culturalally they're not a cultureal

to a company. Now, I've been to the a head on a scene,

imagineate, a series of narcotracacantes where they're the family is, or the mafia Italian, for

example, the family is the family. And then they're to carry a lot of people and

they're and they're eating their pasta with the people. They were to go to

them. And then what's the thing? What's, they're they're, they're,

they're, they're, they're a person, to be a public to their people,

but the psychopaths is a psychopaths of their in a moment they can protect the

structure family, for put an example, because culturally is the accepted, but to be there

to feel empathy, no. For example, the movies happens to the person and they get a

time, they they're not they don't have that that capacity of the suffering a general.

So, then once to close the program, how I distinguish, what raskes I

do to to be to be a me around Well, the psychopata as we

said, according the APA has a series of characteristics if not I recall

well, I think were 12 or 14 or I don't remember and if you can't

say that the person is a psychopath me come in the case I've been to some of

the most characteristic and differential is the lack of empathy

is the fact the affiation to the thing the

money, the luxury, the power, the being in places where can benefit of the

other, are super manipulators, gusts sexual, extravagantes, is another characteristic.

To be with extravagantes? Degenerabon, the issue? Yes. Raretes. No,

see, that are in the conventional. Here, there are there. There's interpretation.

Yes. No, no, I mean, when you lees, when you lees when you're in the DMS, you're saying, well, that's rare it. I think the same. One,

one, a lot of fascinating that was said when I studied the career, the assinature of psychopatology, the professor, that was marvellous

the first of, you know, you're going to be rascos in all the trasker of the personality. But a

two or three. If you have seven, if you're plent, if you're a plent, to do you

famous some years of a personage of fiction obviously Christian

Gray, the of the 50 sombras of Grey that that was

using to give to give a handol to the and that he

would that that that that that is a that

a psychopata but but that he that that that

that's that that that's no that now that

that he's a lot he He's a luxury. Oh, what is. The power. He has to firm an contract. Yeah, the Tio Psychopaths of a book.

Well, like his nobias. And he has regals. Yeah. So, Christian Gray... It's a... It's a personage fictitious, but... But there are many of those. There are many grays.

In the world... There's a lot of... In a world. So, that's... Now, no, I've been never, but now that you said, Mark, it's all right, it's... And, well, the...

...the women... ...fascenated with the person... Well, there's a lot of women fascinated with psychopaths that are encarceled in the corridor of the murder of the murderous of their and they're going to to get them.

There are people with with a lot of an attraction absolutely absurd to the psychopaths. Why? How? Why?

No, we don't understand very well those personalities. That's... Okay, no empathy, let's encante the luge, they encante the power,

are manipulators, They have gusses sexual special, not very common. And then what more? What other, so you remember? So, what's typical? You as, you as per capita, you're as a doctor in.

Look, for example, in a pair, when are people, when are when are, and other, this, that's a time recurrent and so trillated and so trillated, and so trillated, that's so fonding,

persons absolutely normal, is that my ex is a psychopath. This is all the rata. And I, the question, that I do you have you've let's you have solded because the

psychopath not no sulta no swelta pass an year two, five and will be going to the door and then

because he needs reaffirmar their ego are super egocentric and narcissists that's they're saying they're in a

concept telita now let us now let's let's say to you know what to what would

what would say you'd that I'd say they'd that gire in 180 degrees over

his talones and get to the maximum velocity that they can. But there's many people and not

can't be, or not it's not really, the people, because the psychopath

put those condos, no? Envolve. From from, from that's

a place, but from the way to the children or I'm to go to the per the psychopaths

they're much with the animals with the animals. With the with the money

because violence. Violence. Yeah. Violence with with the money.

Yes. Yeah. Vyndia vicaria. Yeah. Is that what I would do you do the first of

the margins of your possibilities go running. But if you can't start going to start going to do you

do you. The psychop a other rask that is that you apart from your nuclear. You apart of your

environment. You apart from your entire with your because your environment. You're to be to be a problem

to be to to be able to do you to be to end up the autoestima. your entorno

can't amortiguar that that's manipulation so he interests with your

entire you're going to be isolated. For the end up you're going to the possible

and if you know to do help to the end of your time

to the people to be to the help to the that in the

case of the women in the the case of the the final is that

is that you intend to to, intends to start from those

reds because they're like anibal with the elephant, there's where they're

to get to get a yearba. So, there's if you have the bad fortune

to cross with a little before and if you're the grand malafortune

to share with a psychopath there still more complicated but

but it's a world very scalofriante because are

people are doing they're they're doing, but they don't know it's a

ex-imente in a whole. They're perfectly conscientious. For the time ala- alhate, my,

my advice is that they're that's a that they're that's protection. And, you know,

because they're the characteristics you're to start with someone and you say, no, I'm going to

your family or not to do you but he he's a to do, this am a friend

no, a this amina too a man no, a, uh, vent to come me

to be to be, to And that's to is one of the characteristics. Yes,

you're going to because the environment is a manned a mannacleation. If I don't want to work for example.

Sure. So, so you don't work, you know you're not you know, you're not to make sure,

that you're more easy, that you're not to be able to castarse with a mannate with a

line a international and he said, he said, he's going to to be my person, you you're going to

do you, you're going to do all the you want, but I want that you're going to be my spouse and me accompanies to all the

whole of the I need to you're in the rest of the president, duke, one of the soces greats of

one of the company poweros. There we we're going the caninito. Yes, yeah, totally.

You have isolated. Of that that way, you can't have to be under his yugo,

under his foot, under his power, that is inversely proportional to the tuesday. At the

way that you you're going is going and then you can't you can't

you can't and you can't and not you don't you're doing you take you're doing so you're

it's going to the violence vicaria so you're so you know when money money

money money you get to get to your money you're what you

do you do you're a presuppost because if I was a Christian grain no

I'd do a because you're you're you're you're to have you, you

buy the roppa of that type here's your stylist, for that's a little bit, like a little cosified,

the person super cosified. The cinema no helps. Now you've been to the house too, you know,

you know? Yeah, pretty woman, is that is that it was like a infrastructure absolutely

marvellousous and the women of the people, we're that's, oh, that's we're going to

but then then again when you're a day of day of a woman, yeah, Echay and Deges, this is a tremendous barbarity,

because you're there, can be a man stupendor. But if is a psychopath? It's that can't.

And then the movie's romantic much of that, like in Christian Gray, like a pretty woman. And I'm,

my prince blue, that came to get a little over with the limousina and trepando

and rescat you, and they're a lot of flowers and and give a lot of me

I like to me conquisten. Not all those who are the non-no, no, no, no, no. Absolutely. We're just

we're doing the characteristics. We're doing an puzzle with little pieces. Yes, a rompecabes. That's,

exactly. Exactly. Okay, very interesting. Now, the last question. For that

a psychopata you take, has to have an self-estimates in you? There's more numbers.

There are much more probabilities. That there or even that the mined, that's the cargues, the autoestime, or even that you've been you know, of

a time, they're in a lot ofeastern, they're, they're, for the people with a back-autosthema, because they're victims much more manipulable. If you have a good autoestime, not you're going to, you're going to make, according to, in the moment that someone who says, hey, I don't want to

see, I've seen, come, I've seen, how I've seen, how me da the real gana. So, there directly directly, yeah, no be presa. is that the psychopata is there's where I'm a preser so that's a person

that has a personal a person who has more probability to be a victim of a psychopath for suppositism

so there the being your porto and the and to have a lot of many

many people to do many people but so women when when you

when you when you when you talk about you what you you you're

you guys with you you're in a a world that say, Uy,

there's no a rendition where you go to be a way, if you're in a lot of my family,

me get a fatal with my family, and I'm too, victim, fast. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

So, there's a victim perfect for this type of personalities. And if you not you get you,

you know, you know, you're going to you know but you're but in the end of you know,

you're perfect, me yellow, I'm a lot of phenomenal. I've got a lot of I have friends. That, for

favor, that describe an an enthron a woman very independent. I'm a good very

good with my family, me love my independence financial. I have three three brothers of a

90 of altitude. That they parted the car to various people. So the

psychopath says, here no is. I go to other side. I'm three three

two people that. He's he's he's to be to be exactly.

Look, I'm this. If he he No, that's not

But, but you get you get you is that the life I'm done with

my father and my my men don't make so much I'm many many people they're

they're they're and then you know you're a you're a sort of saliv

like the salivate like the like the like the like the like the like the

little bit like the caperousita so total so you then you you have to describe

a an entomero because that ispant to spanker to be a true, describe a environment doesn't know

because apart you have people who he has a little bit of inventate a man who he's a

in the government in the policeia I have a a man a man a man he's a

big he's a and me he's a sobrina that that's that's

so is very selosissimo eh celosissimo the man that's that's

very very good It's very good. And my good. The other the other the

guy. And if is a woman psychopath as a woman about, how does it

is a very is a not no, no, that's not, it's the

manipulation is the common they're to tend to apart to the family

there describe a a so I'm okay, I'm

I'm I'm I'm there maybe the suhous the spanked the

psychopath the psychopata also also will try to separate the woman psychopata not can't even if you're like to say to the well it's,

well it's, it's, it would be more common that would say, it would be more rather than, it would be more rather than usual.

It would be more more. It's more. It's more manipulare to other manner. Because that's what we do you say,

it's not the two sides that that are that you want to work and normally, but it's more normalized

normalized the side of the woman, not the part of the culturally is more normalized. We've been

to the movie as far as time memorable. But if the woman will be the

same will be the same will be to say to say to say to not be

she's she to control to polarizate to polarizate yeah yeah of

you to get in a moment to open the eyes

to be to be the other is another another way to

function but are It's also, equally of daniness. With personalities very daniness. You're known

as a professional as a... At the final you know, yeah, I've known. Women psychopat. Women psychopatas. Women psychopat are

those who, they're in a way, for example, the law to ruin the life to a person. For example,

the law of protection, the women, and the most. If it's a person psychopata, utilizes your instruments.

The man in the force physical, the woman but also to use other type of other type of other type of I think there are

men, I think there are people, I think there's like, who more do, man, men, people are women, and people are bad, and the people are bad, they're

to use their things, that are they're in, to be a law of violence of gender, for example, that protect to the women,

that they need and it's necessary that way, and they're using, for example, for example, for to get to the father of his

children, I've seen. So that's terrible, because it's a injustice very great. So, at final, I don't think that there are psychopaths,

women, that there are that there are to use the tools that have to be in their most minimum.

And if I've known, men, psychopatas and women psychopaths. And I, I don't,

those, I'm, I'm fission in, it's, for me, it's simple, relatively simple.

You, you know, those deters? Those wuel. Those, those wuel. Those, those wets.

You, if you're dedks to this. Yes, and, and also, I'm also, and the formation that one could have, or the information that one could have, my the trajectory vital, also when I did

the examines of this signature that I think to do, of psychopatology, had a person, a car for every tristurn of the personality. Oh, wow. But I was that I

started the career with 41 years. Not the same that my friends of class that had been 20. No, they had had given time to know this type of personalities,

I did, that he had lived I've been. Ate a psychopata not so they're to get

to get to know, he's going to be going to be going to and I'm going to and I'm and I'm

and a man and a man who I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to do you know no, it's a tipus.

No, no matter. And you have a program where where you can talk about where I'm where I'm

so I'm talking all the people, I'm going to Campo, thanks. Something that you want to add that you have asked about

about the about the psychopaths? Well, now right not. No. We're

that they're that they're that they're and that and that's really much of this type of

personalities because unfortunately exist and there are to care and to be care and have always a

environment a network a red sure. I always I say when one has a

red, I can do those the trapecists in the circus can the piruetas

that that they want, that no that they'll get that red, that nobody let's keep that that's a family, family, friends,

and if it's all right, then we're with the eyes with the other people about the abrams,

because, we're really that they're really that they're to get to a place in the history of the world.

We're not doing. And it's and they're exactly. But, but, but,

but, Tristently, a little, we're just we're just put up in what we do you.

That's, yes, be responsible Thank you, my great Gagena El Campo. Recurten us your

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