El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 374 Sobreviví a un matrimonio con un psicópata narcisista y perdí a mis hijos - Loretta Valle

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

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In what moment you did you saw of what had said, I'm going to my kids never going to go back. There was a notary,

were in their escorted, he was in the right, I was trying to and he said and just, chchch, chich,

with him. The violence vicaria is... He was... He was, he'd be to be my and he no,

he said, no, he said, that's the first thing when you're to do when you're

going to you're a narcissist. And it's a moment in that you just you just you're not you're not you're in front of, you're just fragmented. They're what was the cause of divorce?

They were they're like the papas were alcoholized. They used them. They've lived episodes of violence. The objective of a narcissist is to do that. That's it. In what I'm equivoke? What is what I did?

For that you, that's an adeleant of what we're going to learn today in the podcast. And I think all the people who have separated, has separated

has been very many people, there's many there's quite people who are and they're to get to get us because they're

to get us in a need to get to get us some other but maybe the fear the dolor more great

is separate and then you know the most sagado that you're that are your kids. Today we

have much to learn and we're to get to get ridgrey in the podcast. From our studios in our

community of alma matters.com. We've invited, as always, to our students of our courses in line. Welcome. And we're doing this for a start,

so we're doing. So, we're goings. Episode 374. The podcast of Mark, Antonio Regil, is a production of RGEL Entertainment,

and all his rights are reserved. Welcome to, my dear Loretta Balle. We're going to talk to you're

You're vulnerable, that you abras, that you know what has lived, because there's

many people, there's people who are the moment living in the moment, you know, you're saying,

that this of what we want to talk about, you know, what you can't be in your

conversations, books, what you do you know, the episodes of the podcast, this is the time more

difficult of all. So, for all, the much more difficult. I'm a question,

I'm, the question, For that I said that I'm a little nervous. Yes, I'm a little nervous. But, let, let, let's go, pass to pass. This, so, this, so I've succeeded

after 20 years, yeah. Yes, me divorcee ago. You've divorced you? You've got to see to see 20? 14 years, 7 months. Okay.

So, when you're you're doing, you still still you still you being? Yes. And obviously, you know you don't expect that the

price of this divorce, or that the vengeance or the revenge of this man narcissistic, the that you know that's

the other episodes, was that's your kidate to your my life. In my mind I'm

that if you would have said in that moment I'm, I don't know I'm never the

right. That's the reason for those you know, but you know what I'm not even the American in psychology

says that the period of a child physically or emotional not always is the fallacyminton,

but that's apparent from your life, is considered as one of the duels more more complex and prolonging those

that a person can't have especially a woman, says the truth says the time, but it's not

he's actively in the resilience and the reconstruction of the purpose of that's a American

of psychology. And that's just what you have lived. That's is. And if it's the duel

more difficult, more complex to elaborate. So, you don't do it you saw you've seen. When

you divorce, you sent you're that your kids were to your side? At 100%. At 1,000. My kids, I was my kids, I thought that were mine, because, I was, I was, the

I was the time, I was the time, while they were not stood around from Mexico, but it was the that I was with them, in the mornings,

me enchantable, me despertable, I'd, I'd go to the recamara of my little, like, mom gorilla

and he was like like, uh, so he he'd like he like he and he

to get him to get him to get her and I'm a little yeah, yeah, yeah,

I don't see I'm a relationship and a connection with you incredible all the life,

I'm the whole of the school, the secretary, the other uh a person that a

other, well, I was I'm partied I'm I'm a my child to take

to my to my daughter, I mean really really really like Susanita,

no? What do you want to be mom? Yeah. And for me the power to be marvell

was marvell me was and it was nearer to them. They were they had done what he

did the father, I said in the other in the episode about the original you told

how you went to to live to the carcel with this marid narcissista how you

did you do you and you went to be and you put you're

what was the cause of the divorce? Yes no is that I don't know

explicitly. But they were the father of my kids have a problem between many one of alcoholism. They were

how the papa was alcoholized. They used they were, they were episodes of violence, they were

how the father me got me and we separated during almost a year because

he was being infiel. So, no I was to let us when you. It was

very easy to say, oh, it's much might have had done this in that moment there was

something that you think that he that he he made more in the mind of them to get

to gettel? I made a error garrafal. I said, me you can't do you

can't do what you want you but the only two things in the life that me

important, no you're not you're not you don't you're one is my

person and the other are my kids. And he he I went

to and me said no you'll see. You see, you know, you know,

like you like it's because your objective is to have a, to have a his children,

no. The objective of a narcissist like you have talked about many times in a podcast and in a

program of radio, is to make you is to control to do that, so if you could you can't

go back the time, no, you'd never said that no, well,

never so I mean, I mean, I don't know, I mean, the concept of violence

vicaria and even actually existia I'm not even I'm not not quite I'm

not quite I'm I'm he would have said and me had been and me would have

not really but he had made to think me was so that I'm so

so I'm so not just put to my children to not

those would have used as a arm to to

to continue to to understand. To understand well, to understand well, because it's a concept relatively new,

no, that's a coonial in different countries. The violence vicaria is? It's violence of gender.

It's violence of an woman violent to a woman when this anuncia his

release of the relation and she that he not will be able to control. This term

was a coo in the two12 for the psychologist Sonia Bacaro and she is that

as the depredator social, like the violentator yeah not will be able to violentar to the woman in the

relationship or of the matrimonial then then uses what more a woman that are

their children people, the mom or the mascotas but primarily to the

children to be using and that's violence so is violence a

so is that's because of that's because it's Vicaria. And there, you, without, you know, without, you know, you said, you said,

you said, yeah, I'm going to divorce, and yeah me go, I'm going. You, you're senticed very strong, and you know, unfortunately. So, that's the first path, what you know what you have to do, when you're going to start another physicist. Never, in the life. Jamas'amest you, no?

Jamas, you know, never you need to do something, what you know, because even, for example, if you're you say, you can you want to the paint of my

abuelito? Well, then then he wants the picture the little bit of that picture not that's

not even that's not. In this case, obviously are the children. So,

there is to make to make to think that he's he's that it down to

the floor, without without no, without resources, without,

so, then less you you're going to you're not, you know,

you're for to start. If you could have to the time you'd say you're

you're you're not I'm going to do you know what's to be to be never said

that's so. Yeah. So, so you you know, you know, you're

that's, now, you'll see, you'll be you're, you know? Now,

how it was tramando, how was he's doing this because in a divorce so,

alcoholic, violent, you, in some moment, perished the custody of

your your kids, legally? Never I've never. Until my two kids were

the majority of the age, I'm in jusgated and for so I kept practically without for

paying abogated and other. But never they did it not, nor him, and to you. It was

we had partied. Uh-huh. But he strategically managed to my son, to be a

little bit of and a my wife me let go in that moment. Then, uh,

my son, he was to study to New York and a my his in Atlanta.

So, put on the but they but they're convinced you to get to get to

now. Now it's so complicated to convince to a person young,

you're to go and you're to go to a country or not the idea.

They're fascinated to go to and that that was your strategy. So that

was a little I'm to get to me and then I'm let's

make you and then let's let's a wordomone to do that I'm not even

I'm but I don't have other networks So this of the communication so far not the communication so far

to be able to talk about to be able to imagineate not what they were not even I could I'm not even

to make a a country so it was it was very complex The the money was he

he he. Now when he he was he's to study to you

do you or even you're oh you that's oh you they're you

I'm you're never never never never No. No, no, he was to see a

He was in a form that strategic and obviously in that moment, to me there were certain things that

yeah, I'm a example is that he was that was a super chiquita. He had the

more 12 years and yeah, yeah, I remember of the blackberries? Yes,

so that one of the iPhones. Yes, before the things. And so, and

he was studying in In the United so BlackBerry and I said, well,

now, my way, my hita for you to have more than you to get a

little bit more so that's that's going to get to. Exactly. Now, your

kids what did when they're when they did you my my

my wife had a little she was a little she

was super chikita. When my my my my my my

she was she have been almost four years. So is 12

and 16 16 My son. My son. My son, I was studying at the 10 years out of

he was studying two years in England. Then he's a new york, man to my daughter, to my

was a little little, you know, that's what? A me didn't make a real, the fact,

because it was like, a way, he was what me said, it was a way of that my

kids could have been more opportunities, that could learn being English, that could

learn other cultures, I mean me it vendio super

well. It's just it's just very easy to say oh, how not you know,

how not you know, it's a thing you're and you too too a state psychological,

salienting from him, he's about, so I'm imagine you I'm going to and you yeah, it's

that's about this story of that's that you. So, no, you know, like,

many of them. Like, many of people, you know, then you're, but how is possible that you

know, not you're a form of manipulate and to of you, marvellous, magical.

So, so you know, so you're in a realesthm, it's very easy, it's like a picture,

but when you're in the middle of the problem and the emotion, then you know you know, things. So,

things that, typical, we're all we're saying, when the emotion is up and you're going to be

you're doing a infirno, you're, you're thinking in soverevere literally, now, he did you

do you know, what he's what did you the document, How did he that you did he's you know

after after after the pension alimenticia because we're we're not but he never that's the documento

the convene never did so I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna they're all the other until I'm

I'm used so I'm the banked the bankers because retrasable because retrasable those

my abogos my abogos so I was they gave money to to your abogas and those

And they'd come up. Yes. Recurried nine abogados, Mark. Nine.

Wow. Until that I'm even my kids I said, you know, that's my

different continents, what I mean me said, uh, desistete of this convene, we're going to

do a new convene, and if accedes to this, I'm going to facilitate

all what you need to need to economically to to be to be to be

to be to the , it's renegotiate the divorce. And what did you say the document? No, me he said to hear it.

I got to a despatche a new desk in where there a mess, like the king Arthur like for,

like, for, no, see, 14 people, 20 people, and so what's, and I'm sitting in middle,

it was full at the person, I know, of what, you're just I'm just only,

I'm doing because the condition was, the condition was, no, you can't an abogado, no, but you know, I

I came to sign that document, no me permitier, they were in a lotario, they were atras his scotas,

he was in my right, I was like, and just, so, just, chch, chit, just, without,

signal. He firm. And I still , I've, to be to all the other the abogos

that were, well, I don't see if they were not, but there were muchimus, and to me

they said, that all are an abugos. I'll I said, I'm going to have been my soul to

do you know, I'm not an instinct of I'm not I'm going to do you know I'm going to do you know

I'm going to there was fear. Tenies me I'm and also the only that I wanted to see my

my children, I don't see you have made a that you're saying you didn't to learn it

to go to you're going to do you when I never had firmed my my alma

my arm to be a and me he said something. What did he did so?

I said, no, I said, something, no, I mean, something and I'm, like I'm

put a frie and I'm, well, then I'm did it, you know? You did a copy of the

document? No, no, no, they did not any copy, nothing. After, then I'm

later I'm what I've signed, because, you a man, he had given me to know, he had affirmed, he had affirmed,

he had absolutely to all. And in that moment, he had to give approximately $350,000

$350,000. Imagineate how much time, he, of pension alimenticia, in the other than I

had to give $12,000. So, so I was, I don't mean to do what, well,

so what, what I had to do do you want to, I'm going to do, I'm,

what I'm really, I'm really really, I'd have given, I've Unfortunately, no

had nothing to with my children. I mean, I don't be said the guard and custody,

nothing. Legally, no, there was a way to get a reverse to this.

When there there's not a not me would be that I'm important, when there's

a lot of a lot, had been a menaceable, he had said that he was to be

to be able to be a drug, my mom, my papa that had been used to have been

found at alzheimer, and he had had said to my mom that if no, I

desistia I was doing, what he was to make in a silo of a government to my father to be

that they were to make to make to make to make a a can't make a a sanja for that she my mom

sufferer all the time. So imagine the terror psychological that we're we're living and the

loretta of this time not is the loretta of today. The lorette of me it

and that me it But in that moment, I if I was I was with a depression fortissima. I was I

deprimed, I was I like with a sense no had a career, no saw in what I'm

going to do absolutely everything all, I had had been diagnosed the diagnosis the

of the dementia senil. My mom was like seeing, I'm looking how

me could help. In reality me was in that moment I

felt that the world was that the Yeah, for So, for so you

have talked about in various occasions that a narcissist not a woman

that has a woman that's a person a person devil that has that

that's that you know, you know, you know you know you to be a

in that you know that you see you like a woman normal so you

know not you know and you can't make a but in

really has something they're they they're they're your way of

a rechance, the way of the rechastity, the, the way that's they were detecting, and they're in where toachurrard

to get, to govando your autoestim. How many years were together? 16. 16. So,

here we're talking to that you were, you were to be the man that during 16 years,

you had been been to be sure, basically, or me I'm not, no, no, you're so.

It's, I'm totally submitted to him. And it's as you know, as the other

episode of the podcast. It was a little to a little, and it's a moment that you're in a moment that you

get a divorce and even you're still psychologically or, or sighinged or, or sighinged or you're,

you're, you're not, you're saying, I'm going to get a lawyer, that's, that's illegal,

I'm going to a media of communication. I mean, you're not, you're not, the Loretta of today.

No. The women that are in a state, it's a name, indefension

Apprendited, me term, but it's that you're you know you don't you see you

don't you don't get you like you're an agotamement emotional and you're saying yeah, what you're

what I'm the only that I'm just like to have a momentit of a yeah you

got you you're you're your time to repition and repetition and

repetition and repetition of amazas intimidation and words create

confusion in your during a point in a point in a point in

that yeah you're you're redid I'm going I'm going to it's the

only that I'm I'm sorry I'm I'm sorry I'm not I'm now I'm

imagineate that amnaz my mom that says I'm I'm sure I'm so I'm

so I so I'm so I'm so I'm me I'm to make to make to make

because he he's over let's let's make in a in a in a in a

in a sonja my mom will be to be to be in the asylum, how I'm going to help?

I mean, I know, what is what going to happen? A man a man with a man with money.

Very powerful and with much money. It was a other world. No, there was the other world.

No. It was not so easy as well, I don't, it's easy, but someone can take a

telephone and denunciate this and here and here and it's and there no existia absolutely

nothing of this. And even I think you had been not really you'd have to

do it amazas were many in that moment no. And for

so now they're the facility to all of these women who are that they have done

the time, and then don't know and then even even even there never even there's

there never when someone has lived that's very easy to use out of

there. Oh, it's possible how you do you do you because you don't

say you not you because not you go to be that you from outside

without understand the context and the that's that you that's that you

did you about you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, that's

the first that was the first, that's it's very to be to get it and not understand it.

Yeah. I mean, I mean, I was a moment, I don't idea of terms,

for example, like, reforce intermittent, disonance cognitive, disconance, cognitive,

vinculation for trauma, dependence, indefension an aprendida. Today, I know. Oh,

I know exactly what I'm going to be so I'm, I know, I know a through the preemio and

the castigue, how me went, like you you say, entranando. And then I, and

I, for so much stress psychological that I, decided, inconsientement as much

eliminate the actual, minimize the issue, minimisal or evadir to be to be

kind of mental. And then every every time me vinculable more for trauma

with him. Every he log that I were more and more dependent in all the

aspects, not more in the economic. And so every every I'm

more in this state of indefenion aprende. This is what he is what is the

person that with a narcissist with a depredator social. So,

then we are lecionand us we're not we're being

and training and there's a moment in you

you you you're not you're fragmented, are you, are there

some pedacet of you that's like a rompecabes with all the pieces desperdigated

and a person so it's very easy to say, or to say, or that's a person

to be that you know, but you know, so you know, you've

seen, you know, and you can't you know, we're, we're, let's be

a little pauseita and me would be we're in some of those terms

that mentioned because just you know you, those

I know I don't know what this signify this for the people that you can

be able to understand that you know, I'm you're that you would have you

understand and know the loretta of the last 20 years but me

go just with that that example a people that

people and you see a a a a

a elephant and why why not he don't do

and why not they don't they don't because they

the food, that they're doing something, they're they're they're in their own, they're in the

thing, they're that's an animal that's the violence, grits, grotes, negarles the food,

negarles their things basic, encadensers, encarles, and it's the most that many narcissists do the

do the do they're just exactly little, a little, a little, just to you know,

just to know you're, it's, you're, so you're, she's, you're, you forgot,

that you You just submitted you're you doblegare. Totally of the that's exactly what you

go to see. Well, we're doing a pause and we're saying we're going to let's make some some terms and some concepts

that you'd like that someone to explain to that's the years because today there's there's a person who no

is a lot that's not and he's doing what you did a last year or we've been to be doing

what you a pause. A pauseita and we continue with the podcast. You have done

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what previous that's what you know how a little to talk you're a man a

greatomomach charismatic he was he was he and he never and of

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with him literally and then and then and then and then

to this process, there's the episode. So we'll leave for here in the channel of YouTube, or if you know, it's your only option. Well, we're going. Loretta, we're talking in the court

anterior, in the segment anterior, of terms, that, you're, that's, and that the women who are

victims of, of narcissists or of psychopatas, this, no know they, because if those were they were, if we were

not, we'd be a car, Canastastasica I'd be in the primary to say, us to be

little little little little there's there's a lot of the and there's psychopaths,

sociopaths, narcissists and this. So, I'd be a class, a new to know,

100. 100. Yeah, and to talk about of the violence family

and I remember in the primary, I never in the school, nobody me about

in the family. It were like secrets no, my my papa was a

violent, or to you're they're I don't even there's, the difference, for example,

between violence economic, violence patrimonial, emotional, affective. I mean, I didn't even

have seen. Now, after the divorce, and after of all this you know, we're going to

we're going, we're going to how gestionate the the perid of your kids,

you, you know, you've talked in other podcasts in our program of radio

formula, you, you, you're you're to study. And you you're just

you're at point to get your your cedula and And your title

is your title is in psychology in psychology in psychology but I'm a therapist I'm not a

doctorpecate so I'm but you know I'm metty to do you to study all this because I said my

psychologist I need to understand that's so because if I don't understand I'm going to

repeat and I want to re-signific and my story I want I'm

want to start the world and I want to integrate my because I

I felt like a certain. Sure. Studias. Always say those experts say that

we're saying we're we're doing to find your passion. I have to find your responses for me and it's logical

that you say, now want to give us to other women to be to be to be

to do it and that I don't know in 20 years in in saying to start to start in

let's let's be let's come to get some in what you did you know the moment you the light

and you said a car and all this was a plan to quit me my kids and you're going to go back. But let me ask

mentioned a reforso intermitent what is the reforso intermittent. In all the relations of risk there's

there's a preemio and castigo so when the depredator social you premia for example

I'm or I'm not you're the woman of my life or the woman of female you are the

woman of my life etc there there's you can reforzance with a but then

the castigue you know you know you're going to see you're you're going to you know what you're to do you're

to get it so then then you start you're so like wait a minute you can't I'm not

I'm not I'm this per when there this price and this you enter

in other thing that's disonance cognitive cognitive okay okay

yeah because one is one is like ligated to then your

mind not you can support the stress psychological of that three

elements not coincide that is the fact, the fact of the information.

Echro and the source of information. So your mind, to be to be

calm, because if you know, it's more, needs to eliminate

something, minimisar something or evadir that. That's what needs to your

mind. So, then the a parke with the castigue

of that you're a, who's you're like the and the next

and the next you know, you what you have to do you know to do

you is disociar the dissonance cognitive. So, you have to minimize.

Ah, no is so much is that what is that was that was that was

that was that was that was that he was the other is with the

you adored, there again the time the time. When you accept this is to

have to have a mental and in that moment you you've you've

been you do you and that you're you connects more, you connectas

more of your emotionally and effectively. And so this is a cycle vicious that you

go I'm going to a way to a term that's indefension learned about

the indefension learned about you know, all the Jews with Hitler and them as well they were

to go to the horns just not not they're not, yeah no, yeah, nothing,

they said they were they're they're and they're so you don't know, then you

don't know because you are got to because you got to get got to emotionally

you, you know you is the cycle that is perpetuating the and that you go to keep your own own

your own and they're doing this abuse knows perfectly what is doing yeah it's done it's done it's

it's a system it's a that they're that repite and they're that's so and then you get a

moment in that you know you know you know you're a moment in that you you're just

so you're so you're so you If, if you did something bad or if no did something You know, you know, you know,

literally, you know, you know, literally, it's a thing to do you. So, yeah, I'm going to

say, no, you know, if you're doing so, you're so much, you know, and then you just to

to cedar, to cedar, and to try to to not make, nohack, totally. So, then you,

see, you know, you know, you know, he said, if the he was, he was,

he was, he was, you, you see, better to order me. I didn't go to

see. I didn't even go to look at the messeros. I mean, I was never to be a part.

That's not to be able to the house and so, and so you know, you know, you know, so you know, when you know,

that I was free, to go to a restaurant and I said, I mean, I want that I,

want, because I'm not was in this state that I'm doing, but when

you're a victim, neither you can't you is gradual. Not is that they hauled

and then you're getting and then you're and then you're and then you're doing, it's gradual. If you're doing the

first in the first during much time they're much time they're like charismatic, kind of tienties or tianas until that

they're getting and a little to get to and you know you know you know you know you know

you're not you're going to know now? Now, in what moment to get into

the time of what you've said you you've got to you? my kids never going to

go to not there's no, fiatte what's my my

my my he was back backgions of New York was a

period that so he he wanted he he was he was

I was cuting some tels for I'm because I'm many

many manual so my so I'm so my my son

my son my son he's my other again so I

I said, I'm a my son, hey, yeah, it's it's called Valentina. Valentina, another time, Pipi, Ben, for favor. And then, then, then I go, soelted the titherto, so I'm going to do with my son, I'm going to do with your father is so bad, there's the

door. And me said, well, I'm going to go. Marco, I thought that he was going, and that I

would have to go to what all the moms do you say. And I'm, and I'm still, yeah,

so I'm, so I'm, and I'm a typical. And I don't know to be. And at

the 15 days, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, because I'm

not, no, because I'm not, no, because I'm, I don't know, that I didn't know to go to go back.

I thought I was doing a berych and that I was going to go to get to get to the

other than my wife, to the visit with her and when I went to her, then I

opened a door. No, an explanation, no, nothing. But, is nothing. And for

you know, that's I think that's something very difficult to resignificing because I

wrote, I was I'd to my daughter for the Facebook, for the

messenger and he said, soledicito you did something what happened tell you

didn't silence he was desperated I was I was I was my son

he was my child I don't I don't I don't the light of

the yellow literally and you know and you know with my

I mean I was obviously no but with my I don't I don't

know I was what was what was what I mean, it was, what What's what did, what did you?

Because imagineate, I just, I said solecito, because I always he said that was the sun that was that was the

so, so if it's very complex, not know and not know what you know, because as

my mom, obviously, I was I said, I think, but we're the culpe? Muchs.

Mucher. Mucher, because I was question about and I said in what I'm

I'm what I'm what I'm so that you know they're to be my

my boy was a young and I'm a all the of all the all the

kids and I considerable that I was doing in putting a limit in saying

to be in this house in this house in this way and it

not is possible that you can do you don't that in my

life I know or he or he I'm in a

way I'm and I'm not to be no I mean so that

no yeah that that's that's that's that's when we're

when we don't we're defiantes yeah you you're you're

to do you get to the right and while you're there's sometimes that's

common to me to me me me me me they're many And also,

I mean they did do it and I'm doing the way to get in the door and I'm going to

in this case, if they were. But here they were because you're going to have a

work psychological that the papa had prepared. And I know that he was much.

Because I, I mean, he was, he was, he gave the things to he was

he knew, he knew, he said, he knew, so, for example, a his,

before to come, to he gave the American Express Black, something that that's legal. So he had and he paid to eat

to come in the vacations. Sushi, pizza. I mean, I said, no, no, no, a little, in this house, not you're going to be that's

things. If you want, the Saturday or the Wednesday, encant to the but here, I do you do do a gazade

and a thing, and then then the typical phrase. My papa says that the pay Amanda and he pays the

card. So, So it was a lot of a lot of my my child my child

my child a lot of the 12 13 years she was I'm to make sure to make sure

I'm using using the chavit in the child she could go and the

vacations to the center commercial to with the friends to the

and this I said I'm I'm I'm I'm and the response

always was with the father of my kids the pay Amanda

and I am the I'm that I'm going to. And I'm going to say, I'm going to say, Bette.

So I'm with Jesus in the book, no? Of that my my wife is all in the center commercial to this age. Yeah. It's very complex.

It's very complex to educate. Yes. And with a depredator social, never in the life you're going to do that's right?

And when the other part not is thinking in the bien of the children, is my objective is robarselos.

So here his objective not the good of them or not,

nor that they they're to be in my mom no, he, he,

he, he, he, he, he, he, he, was,

man, manipulal and and so, and so, and so, and that they're

not, that's, that, that, that, they're, they're, so,

they're they're saying, your mom, your mom, no, your mom, you,

then, then, so, then, you, , because the other part you're not

you're not going to because those who are sembrating is sodium is a crisis I remember my my papa is alcoholic but my mom

never me said your father is a bad old the alcoholism is a alcoholical that is an alcoholic

that's a because you don't know you don't never me said your dad is a man is a man

he's a man's my dad is he's so because it's because it's different

the interest when of the of your kids, that when you want to just to

do you, I'm going to do it. Totally. Totally. We're a pause and in the

last segment I'd like you know you're how you how you're how you you're

you're not I'm not that's you can't put the energy of the role and the

love to your identity, of a repent, they're they're robbed your

people, you're to robbered your role, your personage, your identity,

how you how you do you and what you do you do you can't

start us being or listening, that the more just the fear of

separate to be in a relation toxic or a or a narcissist or of

a psychopata for fear that's or someone that's just living a

a separation a separation toxic in where you can be something

that you do you do that we're a little we're we're we're

here in the podcast to be a look. Your body is your Alcans to your maximum potential. Lunes to

Thursday, 10 the morning, the channel of YouTube of the Group Formula. We'll continue on the podcast

with Loretta Valle I thank much much your vulnerability like your your valentia your vulnerability

I'm I'm I'm I'm glad the world to the things for what

you're studying and what you are doing through the conferences that you have programs of radio,

that has resignified your life, that's resignified your no, no, no, but for the less, you know,

does it, you know, it's a but it's in the but it's, no, no, no,

there's, there's, there's, there's, there, there's, there, there,

you know, you're, you adapt, to, you, adapt, so, if,

if, if you're, to, learn, to, different, different, I,

I was, distinct, is, distinct, no is what I no has no

to be more. Sure. Distinted no doesn't have to be bad.

And I'm like, I'm no more I'm I'm going to be so I'm

going to do you, I'm just, I'm going to the example, I'm imagine it

just that just you're an unputed in the brazo. It's not that

you know it's not you're you're you're there. You're so you're

so you so you're so you let's be there's a there I know know

that's microchimerism maternal fetal. What is this of the microchimerism maternal

fetal? What does this? Fiatte that this is a maraville. I don't

me could explain because I'm this connection with my kids and it.. I'm, you,

it's a time. of cellulas with your baby. This interchamble of cellulas you can't during all the life.

You can't do you're in five years, 27 years, all the life and they're in the brain,

in the heart and in the the child and create a connection that is a connection

that nobody can't destroy. For that is that when you don't you're you're

you're this desgare but still the other you see out

because literally there are cellul of them it's a great, it's a marvillia. It's a

marvilla and at the same time it's a great when they are the that's the

real thing. It's the real thing. But I insist it's re-signify it's that I'm

the world in the other that it for me that's terrible that I have

that I'm that I'm so that I'm like how beautiful that I can't they can

keep in reality. That's that's the outside you're they're in you're not you're going to

you know, you know, you know, you've been we've got to us have been in the podcast but in radio

us can't say what you mean that that's that's called in your cooel in your

I'm going to see the cellular in my in my bureau in my bureau and I'm just

that were the day that my people me had made a message that me had been

something to know, know, to be something to I was

was the was the first that I was and I had a a coffre

with all the medallet plceras et cetera of my my and my my

and my and my my so it then it was a day in the

the that I was I'm my cofretes I goer

and I did for favor fundem all this in a

and I did I did it I did what was

loca. If you I do I'm in no way there's a way to get to you're

going to be you're going to the thing. So the heart has the heart here and it

and it's it's the heart of the three interlaces is my love

to them and the love to me because I know and it and it is,

and it a back a cross that is the divinidad

and it's like all in what I think my

I think and the of them. So, with this I'm and I'm

and I'm all the things that I'm and start. And it's the symbol of my

liberation. I'm I'm a Capulco that is a place that I

went I went to me, because I did a ritual. I was I'm

I'm a and I know, and the and the I'm then I

did this in the mar, so I gave to the virgin. And yeah,

after having done this with my key, I can do you can do you know,

all what I want to do. All right, what I want to be here. I want, I want to

you know, you know, how you know, the emotions when you're like, like, whirls,

like, like, a manner of a way of a way, to know, that you know,

that you know, that's the experience, of the for the people that not being listening,

and what does it when get the angustia, because I imagine that still getting to get you. At the more

you know, you know, but how manage you're when you're when you're when you're when you get,

when you're when you're when you're the eyes on the morning and you don't get and they're

and they're going to and they're and they're that I'm not, because I'm not I'm

what I'm what I'm what I did this or why you're the torment mental? to not

to get a to get a at the I'm going to get to I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm

with the cutter, no? With the cutter here trying to me had seen in that then I

had to get to get to five five so it was a I'm

a lot I'm I'm I'm in this moment I had a

house of two plantas of my house and I'm

to the house to my my I'm I'm I'm going I'm

my mom my mom had much my mother's I'm going to my car and my

I'm not there because I think I even that me going to robes a lot

I'm past I'm back my my person I'm and I

I'm I'm I think that I had had I've had

I said I sent me in the camera in the board of the

camera so balancions me if were like with the photographs

of my kids, I mean, I was, I don't know if I was I don't know if I was like,

I was gonna me, I was gonna the sameade, and I wasoled. I don't I'd that the allora

to them were. I don't I was sure. I mean, I feltia that had had been

the reason, but, but, more of all, no, I didn't my

life yeah, because I knew me, I'm to be a mom. And then in the moment in

they went, they were with my identity. I said, and now what, what's going to? What do you? I'm how

I'm going to I don't, I don't, no, I, I didn't, the way to, I, you know I was, you know,

I was justerick, because, I felt like they were to robar the essence, the of the allor, no?

It was the last that was. It was the last, what difficult that is for a mom, the

that just you know the loo? I mean I can't imagine me.

I mean, I mean, you know, you know, I'm like I'm like a depression,

but... I was very deprimed no, I'm very I'm many years without,

but in that moment, I was, I'm, I was, I'm a coffee, and no

I'm never ever absolutely nothing, I'm I'm I'm just I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm so I'm in contra of my religions

religious. But there was a moment in that the suffering me supered and I'm really enoaged

with God I'm really because you I'm castigas this manner? Why? So,

what you do you for you have you had to my kids? And why

you're you're so you're so it's like I just like so I'm just

I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just the only that I did say

literally to think. I was with the cutter I'm here and I did the last and I did. No, I

did. My mom. Me imagined to my mom my mom. I imagined that I was seeing that I

was doing, so it was to make to make a and more to be sure that she is the way

to find. That was my first thought. And my second thought were my

my second I was going to let me because they want to know that I'm made

I had left cartes dramatic to no. But I said, it's obvious.

They're going to know that I'm not a I'm not I'm not so much

they're this car to be not. So, so I did, in that

I'm to say, Mame, for favor, Ben, I need, I need,

I'm, he and me to go to go to go to the psychologist. But I

said, I'm was a little chitit in pyjama and and I

I went to my psychologist and I did I'm how I think I'm I'm going to I'm going to

I'm going so I'm so that's that's so that's that into your that's you're thinking

in your your mom and that you've got the value to say no I'm I'm going to

give but I know no no I'm going to give them to give a

but you obviously obviously my psychologist in that moment me manded with the psychiatrist. With the psychiatrist, what I'm saying, obviously, because this is the psychiatrist, not it's what he said to my

mom, has to go to the psychiatrist. Yes, because you say, medication, for you know, the chemics in your cerebrose, it's an emergency. That's a psychologist. It's a psychiatrist. Between the two, me to try. I'm going to medica.

Therapy and medication. And I, at the beginning, I said, I still, I still seeing this sincentee of life. But, little, a little, I started to recouped the sense of the and in that moment

my motor were my my mother. And how you did you the world? I mean, I know,

I see that not was to do you to do you to use to the life, agrar,

of what you did, that's, of what you started to get to get to the natural,

you know, you know, you're the son of your life, and the way, the way

you're how it started, how it's so, I'm, I'm, first

was a woman, then then I was a spouse and then I'm a so in therapy

I'm saying that I'm a person a woman to me my psychologist I know I know

me I know that I could find a sense of a different different

different so so the first that I was to do understand the

thing and this concept so basic that first first you

first you to give to sell to my and my and me. And I think I'm from my,

from my, I've been said to me, that I'm to have to have to be those words, but I'm

them to use them to be them to get an identity a, a race, of having perided to

my kids, but yeah like Loretta. And that was part importantissima, no,

the having understood, the have had had had gotten at having started to

to build my identity as a woman and start from the most basic, Markanton.

Of what I like to do in the life, no? I mean I didn't know,

I was I had converted, I was a I was a I was to get to

because I know, I was going to make a or at the maybe they'd be to come to

my life. Yeah, no, I was I'm, I'm the hell the

me, no. No, I didn't know what I liked. So, start to

recuperer this, this sense, no, of what I like, who I'm

to know, start me to get well, because not me came to, start.

Start. And start all this process marvellous to go to be and

me, and with a mind. I'm I'm going to get a

distance. In the the other of that they have an

example of a mother that's that's that that's that's

that's there and I'm a mother that I'm that I'm that I'm

resignificing and that and that is your inspiration so. And other

things because today you do you do you do you know to do you but

there's there's you're saying you I'm I'm I'm you're

in the distance how you can you can't do you a

life. 100. Today, they, they're in, that I then I'm they're in

they're in an example of a woman of a woman that's a man. Well, one of those two

you contacted after the podcast that he, not? After two years, where you made this

a person, someone has someone has someone has someone has, I know, so, no knows if

they've been the episode, but after that one of them two, the man, the man,

the man, the man, you contacto. The I also, I'm the message that I'm.

Yeah, I'm a I'm in Instagram of a account that's a yeah,

and then he's back to disappear. Fortunately, yes, but I with that

I'm, what you did the I'm, and you did you know, and verificate that was

your that's, that I had regated that I'm to

to clean my my call, me, me, me, me,

I because, because, and, in that conversation you know the other

I'm in the question, I'm I'm not, I'm and I'm think, I'm

I'm I'm a question, and I'm really, I'm repented much, is to

have you put to study that in a , and to have been more in patinet

to you. I'm putting, I know, I know, I know, you know, I'm, you know,

I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm just, I'm, much sense of

the cause, to have been to have been to have been

to be to be to study because his father he had good

qualifications so, so I felt this pressure and I said,

no, that not, that he could be able to be in

the school, etc. So, so, I I had

got to much, I said, I more more in the

school, that my my little abilities marvellousas my my son my son

a little a little and he has a question, but I'm so that's that I'm

doing that had been to learn matematic had been more more in a

and he and he I did give a took very

very profound that conversation and that I said that

you know that that no that is invaluable.

That's valuable. because Loretta, as you know you know, now that's you know, you know what you

did the best that's, you know, that's the version my, so he's, he's all the correct. The best is,

with the things with the things, you had said something, you'd have done a but you'd have done,

but no, you know, and it's what that's what they're, they're, they're, they're trying to

we're, because the life out of then it's normal to ask you to give to make the the best of

us to be and I'm much and I'm very I'm sure that you have contacted for the most

one of the other then you know has taken no contact to the moment she's not

she no nothing yeah and all this was for Instagram no you've seen

in person yeah if you did in person to yeah but you

but but yeah but Yeah. You got to see a in person to

your son to see they were in a little bit of a so I'm

very my mom too. Oh, wow. No, you've said that

you know, I've been so we're so we're really very rich that

that's that's after the last. One a what's your

heart she's it's it yeah it imagine it

was something it's a so a an Abraise

that I do for a I'm a a

one of a one of a one of what you yeah yeah

yeah I'm and my my 28 28 28 well

I'm so I'm that you have that you have that you

have been that so that even that you know that you do you

do you do you do you do you have to to separate very legitimately

for fear to not have money, fear to to have the house that they or the

department that you need to a man that a more sacred to his family what they

what is what you say? That is that definitely you have to guard

him the fear I put it in the in the the seat

of copilot because you you're you're you're doing

the example to now that you I understand that the model of relations you do give your dad,

imagineate just the model that I was doing to my kids, he was giving the door for that they were

a rightchito to a relationship to be a, or that were violentators or that were victims.

If you you're going for a moment so, if you are living a relation of risk,

divorceate. But be intelligent. Be a therapy, entient with who you're leading

you know he's a book a or an abogado or an person who

is a depredator social and do the things of the thing and do

you have to create a new need to have a support economic

not not not not much money but so for the money

but so for the time for you don't to go you

to is to join with people that can't give advice

your mom, your prima, your friend, your friend, your person,

be with a therapist with a psychologist in that you to be to be

react to be creating a way in where you in this

moment that you see you can you can't support to

you do and do the part to because the day of

the day of you don't a little a little you're going to you're going to

you're going to you're going to you're going to get a woman. That's not, that's not that you're

like to say. Exactly. Exactly. You know, so you have to give an example of force,

of resilience because the history is you can't resignificer. Because if can't son your

and because can't you can't you can't do you and so because you can

build a life after after what you did you do in

where you you're going to be and feel like to and get a cycle because a because of the first is a generation in generation

the vis-aubel and the vis-a-a-o and the vis-a-ulah and then the little mom, then we're not you know,

you know, it's a circle, will continue to generation in generation. Yes. Until

that someone says, after that after I'm to see my kids, I'm sorry to my kids,

I'm sorry, but itueled. Although, itueled. Although duela it's enormously. But those did the

example. And those distance, until the day of the way. And here it's a

someone to say, here it's because no more violence and I'm not tolerer no tolerer

any, like a piece of violence or abuse in no aspect of my life. And I'm very

very very sure. Cels, control, prohibitions, intimidations, bromas sarcastic,

sarcasticas. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. No. Not. All. nothing of those

things. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Now I'm what is a relationship a new thing

a relationship of a relationship of and now know you know what I know my freedom,

my independence and the I'm the I'm the I'm the thing we're the

we're not only so the team and our community celebrate we're we're

who you and who you're not only who are you you're thanks also

to what you And we celebrate to the Loretta of the last 20 years that lived what had to

and that's he was what you'd say that if it would you could we're if we could

have to be we're to come you could be to appear in that moment with that

and you could you see to her and take to the and take her the

hand what you don't even even because if it dole

Marko although you doela you'll have to do it. Even

you dole you're going you're to be a don't know you're going to put a place to

this key of the life of your every all the most you're

to dole especially in the navities when you're when you're putting the

argo because it was something when you did you when you go

to the the children of your kids like do you but

you're going because this ball of that you have done you know, that's the

love to deposit, that's the little petulidotid that's called Petunia and Pogu that's

that they're to be in and you're going to get to a man that's a mano

and you you're going to build and you're going to make a great of a rote

and you you're going to be example for many other women and those

then they're going to be a example for others and socessively and socessively

and it's going to create a catena spectacular and marvell of aude

so so you so and then you know I'm that I'm so

I'm confident we're we're we're together what we're that

is so that's that's a cardita of love thank thank

thank thank you thank you thank you thank you the for for

phone Loretta Daya. Thank you. Thank you, Loretta, well, you're going to your graduation, you're officially as a licensed

in psychology. Pronto you'll have your title, you know, you know, you've been doing conferences,

talliers, support, to many times to many people, not is that a title university to share your

own experience and what you have lived, but also is very very emosos to bring the

things that the university. In where we can't you can and to and learn

more to you. In all my reds I'm like Loretta Valle MX and Loretta

is with YouTube, in Facebook, Instagram and other you're doing conferences some of

some years platticas Yes, I'm doing retiros presensiales yeah for that

we can we can learn us that we learn that we're that we're the relations

of the resgues I do do sessions when do conferences

and there you can localization Loretta Valle.m.X for any for any other for the world

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There is there's much there much there much there much there much to

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never is sufficient until that the ultimate to the ultimate woman could remember

who is, know who is and to be to be able to be able to see myself first, and to

find out of the mission never will be able to do you. I know, you know, it's a

reciprocal, amica. It's reciprocal and I thank you much to your vulnerability

because so it's not so when when one to talk to talk to

do it not it, not is not easy less with cameras with public

But as I like I said before that we're this this is doing for those women

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Because that's a exercise of all the masterminds us said, there's a some compromise for more

small that you can't do with you yourself, with you know, after this reflection, because the chis is that

we're atericemus, so if there, some compromise for a little that is, that you're disposed,

disposed to give us, I do this compromise to me to love me more and you want to you're here

back to get psychologically like it like it and to learn all in community, we'd

like, so thanks of all heart and thanks to our students and

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