El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 375.- ¿Cómo sanar a tu niño interior herido y superar la herida de abandono? - Anamar Orihuela

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

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If in a matrimonio, there are an eras of abandon and of rechazzo, then when there's a separation or an absence absolute of one of those two, it's much more complex. Here, no important if you've had a infancy incredible and if your papas

were the maximums and what whatever, in reality, we have the heredities of recasaso and abandon. I'm going to for the life without not feeling that I'm sufficient. Preferer is

the who's the bad qualifications, the that he pega the people, the person, the person, to be seen as you're

you're ignorant. Samandono of a father, a rechazo of mom. Sientes

that you see you're, you know you're not you're not going to you're about, you

do you know, the he's about, the father, the father that is a great provoer, maybe

not you know that's never has been able for them in a level of that

that's that we're going to do you with our great-o- Anamar Origuel.

Psycho-Trapeo Specialist in New Interior and a book that's good good and it's

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Annamar Annamar Salvame Annamar Sanam my my my little

and with much and with much love You're just you're you're gonna to talk to donauevote

but we're to the children of Donauevote Yes exactly of the polytos of Doña Webote. We're going to talk about

of the eras that the poyitos, look, and you come as to the poytos and the poytas get to those eras that come of the father and

mom, the abandono and the retchase. Because in the special, I know that in special you like to talk about these two heriders and

how sonarlas. Yes, well, I think are the things what I know neuralhikas because are just the errors

that are related with father and mom are related with a loss of your

absence, with your incapacity, to be us, to be to give us, to give us

to give us this incapacity that took each one in your energy has to

have to these two areas and without all we all all here.

So, we don't important if you have a infancy and your

parents were the most and what all we all we

all the And it's important to observe in where, how, what are the questions that sabotage, how are, how they're

these, these characters internal of our areas. And this can affect even our health physical.

It's correct. No, all of our quibres emotional, all what we do we do we,

the emotions that the emotions that reprimed the, the fantasies in our case, of me

are abandoning, no, not I'm going to invite, no I'm part of, well, that all

that has has a memory and aparted in our entire, that we're so young,

and so anxiety, insomnius according some of the forms physical in that repercuting

those issues. Yes, we're always in a state in a lot of

Marko, in a state where there is to defenders and have to

be sufficient, have to pass deserceived because the life is a a bigger and I need to

play and battalier with the life. And I'm going for the life without not sure that is sufficient. Soufficient,

merceder, valioso. I am to talk of the areas because because, when you sanas your

your carbages, your your comportamint to be to the same. It's

because if you have a baddon or the rethacy, then to

to defender you are the you are the you're the you're the or you're the you're the you're the

you're you're not you're saying you know, that's what you do you do you exactly that's

the first is the really really, what is a what is a what is a what is a thing?

What is a thing? An erita is a is a problem infringed your relation with you

and with the life and that you do develop mechanisms of defense to not repeat that

but those mechanisms you're all they're trapped in conducts that they they're without

the possibility to to fill the necessities affectivas that's unconflusas so

of the need you needst that someone to be that valider to valida

your necessities was very dolorous being so not seen.

So this the dolor of not being not been taken in

account, you're a mechanism of defense that they made to be not a

way, a way negative like the little the child, the man,

the rebel, and that that did be seen being not that

that today, in your life adult, it is a

barrier to get your necessities affect So, that if you know you want, you want to see you, then no it's not even putting me in problems.

Problems legal, problems of mal-comportamination, abuse, just so I'm just to, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just for me be. And then-mast, I'm going to be. Sure. Because as a new, I prefer, as, as, as, as, as, you know, prefer, as, as, you know, to be able to be made.

I mean, here I'm not not a way to lead the no mirrored or the no presence or the no

contention of our not prefere you the same, the one of the people, the person who is the person

to be seen if you're you're still I'm sure I remember that I'm remember that you don't make a

exactly. They were they're laughing they're doing they're they're doing they're saying, I

was saying I was I'm And I got her a quarter, right. I remember I, I got a one and I was wronged and they're nojured. And I said,

is that you're not you're taking in serious. Yes. I'm the I'm the first, I'm going to make you see you.

I'm going to be being rebel, taking the comportments of crisis, a little infermating, to the more out of the

califications, or trying to be perfect, comporting me like an adultito. So, all, we all we have

forms of that our fathers and they're in great ambrates in our life. Metying them

in problems, endorminging, things very very fertes. And as well, and as and as we do it.

So, for that the people, my wife me be a, for the people, me be in the

job. Comportamites autodututivus, no? When a young, for example, does a

perrinche and rompe something, it's common, this is common. So, it's a way

to be a car much that's the that's you don't know so you your your mukeco

amado so you you're rompiste because you was so you're so you're so you're

a mom or with mom that he put a limit that's that's it's a form

also to call the question or me or no that's peor. Here I have

an studio of the center of control and prevention of the

United, that says that more of the 60% of of the adults experimented some type of abandon

emotional in the infancy. Although no they're not they're a way conscientious, you can't

try this erie. It's more rarer that has these these has been. Yes,

I think we're all we're all. We're all we're just those who they're those who are

those they're those consienters, those are the those that are not being

material radioactive because they're on the of a rechase and abandono, but since

know it. 60% of of the lastimados do it, he's the rest no know the rest no know it. But even you

have you've been good papas, a good mom, a good papa, so all, we're all we're doing this area?

Yes, because if you want, we can't let us talk, we've got a one, me said that one of the mother of

a man, a bit of the mother, what hered is the one is the motherita? Yeah, the arida

of her chas the erita the redchaste. And Papito that celebrate in June in the abandon. Rechase.

And abandon. Abandono affective. For that the grand majority of the women in a culture Latin,

the papa not, the father no, the papa no so the grand majority, I mean, I mean,

I mean, I'm mean, I'm mean, I'm mean, I'm very all right, we're all right we have

abandon. So, abandoning of pap, rechazo of mom. Rechazo of mama.

So, when you you have this absence of a child, he has

a clear a way, so it is that difficult. It's that I don't mean

I'm not in my time. It's that I did it all the

scenes. No, it's necessary to get to my mom no me

abandoneded but or my papah no he more more

more than more but in reality so it can pass but

the rechazzo has to be to be a error of

a lack of a lack of the reason, the no,

the no existence the pain, the not to be

not to be having seen never never ever ever

ever talked is the mind the mind of

the people that they they are so so

you have that this mind your parents your

parents were there are are there are available a level affective. You sentiste part of the

family. You're seen, reconnoce in your your qualities. Your mom and your father were in your position for you, then

you know, is a lot of a job. It's much chamba. For a mom, that apart to starti the car,

working and trying to do you, resolving problems, and more if they're a lot of people,

it's a lot of that you, and that's much time, and that's not, so, it's much

a lot, so, even they can be able to be lastiming. The

is that the grand majority we've grew with not much that's

not much that they're in the people in the house

in the food in the supervien not not were not

not people and they're taking courses and they're

doing doing the people really many of many

many of they're more more carent more abusers

if you you want many times or with much ignorance.

So, really we're going to going to conformed the generations are

growing, then are changing. For example, now we are a generation more

more but not for so we don't for us. All those we have

children we know we're we're doing getting her because

we see in Mexico the system national of protection

integral of and adolescents, children and teenagers, says that in Mexico, practically the

half of the children report in form conscientious, in form conscientious, report an having seen to have seen

a absence emotional of his parents, even the parents were physically present.

So, that's, that's, that's, they're being abandoneded, or

rechasasas although the not the not so it. So, is. It's an

interpretation of what was happening. Yes, because we thought we were able at a level affective, because

was doing the food, because she was in the way of the job, to get us to get us to but in reality,

if she was in depression, was not was nothered for what was doing, if not she was

she was she was able for us. I'm doing to come. I'm living the rope. I'm saying

I'm saying, I'm, I'm going to playes with me. And as you know when you

do you, I'm I'm not so I'm you, you're absent. And the poor mom says,

but I'm I'm starting the car to put up to do that and part of and I'm to have to

do you know and do and I'm just so just you you can't be in that your mom

was the provider because your mom your papa and she she always worked for to us

and she was always always she was always never felt to the house but

she was she ever was working providing providing always was in

his issues and no there's a feeling and you don't know you know

and the you know it's you know but you know you know you in the US

says that the people who did the people who did you feel abandon emotional

what you are saying they're the double of possibilities to suffer

anxiety bad autoestim difficulties in relations and sensation

of emotional that is very very we're we've we're trying to a level even

a good a disposition to a soledity to the and the nojo

to the and the and for so it's very important observe that the form in

the life in the life where we we're always with many we're

we're we're we're we're we we're we're we're

we're we're so all this no no to normalize it.

No, we have to do not to get for the fact that the way in the way we've

our way is our life is our is the thing. It's the thing. It's the way we're going

to be talking the problem about the problem to dimensionar it. So, for that

you know, you're just you're just you're just you. No, no, no, it's the

immense majority of the people. No. Marr said that others. Yes,

it's It's not a trebid. But I don't know They're a different proportion. Yes. Now, figgott

there's a book of a doctor Bessel van der Kulk that's called. It's called? Yes, it's called.

The body keeps the score. The body gives the marker. The court. The country. The court has the country.

The body is a psychiatrist. And it's a anxiety, so that the people that have these

areas of abandon, of retchason, can't have anxiety chronic, insomnia, sensation of constance of soledity, even standing accompanied.

How strong is not not to be alone. It's total and absolute. A me me to be servandecal because just has investigated how it's

the trauma in the Cerebro. And has and has been the most difficult of this is to get the

the kind of investigations, not, of the health emotional, the health mental.

And, So, we're not We can't We can't have a good Parraiser but in our minds

if our characters primaries were abandoners, malos, and ausentes, not you will be

to be used to your relationship from your child, you're born, you're used, you're casted

with your person, and not available. But what you're saying in the studies is

not only only if you've been a father abandonator or a mom

that rechasable, but if you interpretast Yeah, ah, yeah, is that the, a bit,

is that the history is that each one, for example, I have seen six brothers,

and the three we have a mother different and a father different and a story

very different, pese to that we're living the same mother and the same

history. So, each one, there are various aspects that

us make parrness front to the reality of our infancy and interpreter that

from the force, from the debility or from the and this has to

what was the temperament that was the that was a that was a good that had a temperament

where he he got to rescue to the papas or he he was to be

to for the situation or to disconnectar of what what's a

way to or to go to get to the family. So, that that

was the temperament that was the kind of how was how was about

a level genetic not not only only not you

don't do and how you're your parents, how do you

do you can be project in those their people

and they they're in them in those when

you when you you have various brothers, there are people who are more to

the parents and there are more projection. But when you're one or two, then your your papas

are going to project to his children so the people are the eyes of the people and of

who can the is the sense of a rechasing or abandono no, they have necessarily

an event dramatic, like this so said, but this is a fact, it's a fact, it's a

fact dramatic, or they're divorcing. It's a dramatic. But not necessarily it has been like a

so, but it can be like some little actions constantes that the child or the

child or the person, or the absolutely. Absolutely. So, pieces.

Like, vocadillos. As you. So, it's, gotitas, I'm nothered, or I'm

situations very fervent, or a divorcee, a situation that, you always you always

you never, it was a man, he was a young than you. So, that's, they were so, I'm

that you're substituted. Or the your brotherito has a disability, a disability, a problem, or

problem of apprenticeship, then they require more attention, and you they're just your manito, your manita

is the that's the person, and you do you, well, and you, well, there a lot of,

that's a that's very common. So, when you when you when there when there

when, that needs more than you because it has a necessity major in any the displacement, the enojo, the pain of the child of

the child that is very great. And there's a relation love, or odio, with that, with that, because he

loves and you know, but also he's robo to your papas. It's very and very dolorous. And for

a good, and to be an childed, and approved me I'm going to give to him as

the rest of the family to the rest of the yeah. and also I'm to generate a conducts of another. It's not. It's not. It'ser, inunding, to make a lot. I'm sorry,

don't or of a rechazo or to be a very controler like a

problem to be to find and you do a kind of a kind of a

kind of what is the control so the control is a state of not

confi in the life so you need you you need all you need

all mentalized that nothing that not out of the

know that all be a pre-decible, because you know is a pre-deceive because you know with the

and you need to control it. So, you need to control the situations, the people, to you know, like a

form, like, this fear to the life? Yeah. So, who is a grand controlator?

No, no, is someone that is an grand shinggetas, no. It's an person who

has a fear to a life brutal. And to control all. We'll have

a pause and when we're going to we're going to talk about you know, I think it's you can't you'll be more

specifically about the abandoner of the papat of the recas of the mom as it. How it's what consequences

has had and then we're going to how sanar or of how to start to start to

start. So you're doing, now you do you're to where you go to where you're

well I'm I'm going to because I'm spaces more like to really go to find. And to

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It's been precious. Yes, it's precious. It's very beautiful reconcilator we're ariad of

a rachasas much, we've we've done the idea of others the

of the of the feeling not mercederas and to see us imposterous in the women is very

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endgently less sentient rechasado or interpreting what you a person like a a chance

to be suffering of insomnia of insecurity of anxiety what more what else what does what you're

much much do you know not you know does make a pause to your life

always you're you're doing you're you're you know you don't know

you don't know you see when someone when someone want

somebody wants to you can do you know you help, is always in

a position where where you do not, you know, to be much to be

being able to be able to be able to do you. Personas in reality that never can never

coaxed, that not are with those that you know, this red that

he has that has been there, no, no, there's so when you're

sabotages relations, projects, sabotage, sabotage your life without you're

sabotage your because the the child the inner in reality is a

not no no no so no so not

the child the child is present in all

moment when we we're feeling for example love connection

with the life when we we're when we we

have we we have the child the the

The child not only is our pain. The is a part that he put a color,

enthusiasm, connection. When we're we're we're we're we're connected to

a level affective, we do do it from the not from the not,

I know, so, a a more casteas to the people to the

person because you do you do you do this person is coerent is congruent

it, I'm It's okay. What on with this person? From the

adult, but for the disposition to the love, to connecter, to talk, to feel,

to do you, do you do you do you know? So, if we don't have, not we

had a new interior, our life would be very very very.

It's pesed to try to try to that you

know, that's that's that's what you're trying to do

to do that's Yes, yes, exactly. Because in the end of the fond of the fund you're

in the final you're in the final the 80% of the studies of the experts in neurociences

are the 80% of the conformation, even Bezel Kohl, it's in the book in the

the body the world, the 80% of our connections cerebral is the first the first

seven years of our eight years of our years of the 80% of the conformation

of our the of what is the people, the love, the the pair of, is just inserted in the first eight years of

our life. Then we're confirming that script, no? So, that's a guion where I'm not a merceder,

where the life is dura, where I'm what you and many what happened what happened comes from

the vintre, where the mom was deprimed, where someone was where you an

embarazzo and a the more you're a major not, the grand majority,

we don't we're not we're our and that that's the great event

of your life and all in your adult it's in turn to

to that you where you're you're you you're you're

to you're you're where you have to get to where

you went you I go, and so and that that's that's

that's that's that's very in the front, because, the the new

is something is that I think, is that I think it's an experience a real it's a

experience total and absolute or when they're when you an child,

you're you're you're you're inadequate and you don't pertenees

You know, you're saying that you You know, you're not That's a bit Because what's That's not capable So, it's a It's a experience That's a

That's a corpoural That's That's not can't Yeah, you The Sientes in all you. A bit, And explain us a

A bit of this How is that The Erida Rechase comes to mom And the abandono It's of Papa?

Why? No can be The other? Yeah. I'll be here I'll be here to I'll be the

I'm going to the rechation affective. So, the vincal is a form of apego. An appell

that we need when we're when we're the connection with the mom,

this maternage of the mom, this disposition to the breast or this callidness,

this connection with, this also this also the papa, so the pap, the capacity to put to put to the baby in the

body, to abrassar it. This disposition affective, this is the vincal, the connection. That has to be with the herida of rechazzos. When the papas no have this disposition, then the child begins to generate a erida of retchase that is baynading all its

comportment to a mechanism of defense that's a mechanism that's disonection disociation

this this is a year is the young are the people who are they're in they're

that don't cause problems that are always always that's that are

they're not they're when we're we're alliseless solitarious infirmisos no

pertenecients silencios silenciosos, esconded, insimimimed, we're seeing the representation of the erida

of rechazz. Because this child no has no any of the mom, nor the but for the

role that we have the women, for the connection that we have with our children,

for the maternage that we do the lactance for the importance that has

the mom in the life of the babies, is that is that's the

mother because the the child needs to the first years of the first seven years of the life.

This connection primary with the mother is the that we have used. So, us,

we're not our disposition to the love and the connection is that we're

we're able to our children to receive the but if as as

you're connected, not I'm preoccupated because you not

you the figure that you had because you've up a person,

because you got to get a depression, because what you can't

be more, or because you're a mom, you're you're a

little you, you're not you don't have that connection. So,

so it's to generate in this no disposition to

contacto. Even there there's there there's that a

child that a connection with this vicar, this

apego, you do you do you fourth, you're with him and the

mom's and the people have a single, and they're people are when the mom

regressa, they're going to establish the contact with her without any problem. But the

children who don't have that that are that are people, they're getting andojated,

and when he gets the papa or the mom, you know they're

they're they're not even if they are they're concerned or immutant

because the mom is that connection primary that that we're that's about to be

with the reality of and it's that's a man. That's a little that she

has a man that's really to get a kind of a special of a when mom is a

woman's when mom's aucent? Well, more than the delus and of a

of a of a so not is a mom. You went to your work, you went with your friends,

or you went to someone more and you're or you're or you're disconnected of the connection Marko.

Uh-huh. So, because when you have kids, you're connected with your kids,

not when you're in your house, lavando the when you when you see,

to get, when you when you're when you want you when you put music, they put

to do You go to the park when you you're going to play with on the bike or when you amamantas when you're being too

and then you're a disposition and it's more than a act, is an experience internal

of connection. And the moms who have much or have many kids who are

without doing something of this absolutely. So, I would have to be a

super mamas to put to to have this disposition affective with his

six and also be a providerer, as the case of my mom, or imagine

to a mom that has a child, that's really, that's, really,

also, when the mom is provider, is playing more a role masculine.

So, she is more operative. Yeah, and then does the launch, and you

have the time, we're going to prepare the things of the The mom that is

Provedora not establishes the vincal the woman like the mom that has a provider but also

has a companyer who also has provided. Ambos are the roles that that's

that every person to distribute to the house not has not a car

and can play his role his role feminine and the also the

also can play his role feminine and this there is

a great equilibrium, no? Because if it's certain that the mom we're not us introduce to the world of the love, also it's

certain that the father has that's a channel where also also not not only is that figure of limits of

authority, who you can't for the life, who can't do the person to be super-poweros

not only that role has the father. The papa also the papa also the pap a part feminine.

There are some there are the parents that have more connection affective

and more capacity and more to connect with the affect that's that's

so that's, so that that has that has that has that has yeah,

yeah, if it's more more the mother, yeah, of the of that

we're more dwe the mothernid in the first years

and the years of the and then there's more the

role of a a little to separate a two, a mom,

that's a fun that does the mom, the father, he's a

little, and he went to to let him to put the limit, that other

function to go to to go to the world, to to, and to

be a busy, to have and, and, and, and, and,

and, but never we're, we're never, we're the

connection of the mother, the affect of the mother, the protection of the mother that's, so are two

amos different. For more enthusiasm, you know, that's more, that's, a more, that's,

when one of those two is all the two fall and in a time and a time in the mother,

or the time in the family with the father, and the time, the time, the end of

the day, if in a matrimonial there, there are thereiders of abandon and the rethason,

then when there a separation or an absence absolute of one

of the two. It's much more complex. It's a mom, or the father never can to be able to

do you what's what you're what you know, what they're going to get back, but they're not

well, it's all all, all depends of the quality of the relation that they

have some this this is important standing together but also being being

separate because if they are separated and have good accords,

respect them the rules, and are a good team to create a their children.

And this, this is interesting. Because when the young, he's got with his

papa, and put you, that's a second with a couple different with him,

that no always is a more, or less, or difficult. So,

it's can be that the time that the man not, the

one-a-one and interact and connect to other way that not do you do it, if it would be a mother. So, in reality,

no has to be so the forms, but with the funds. So, that that's a day,

to the house of the mom, but the mom's in the same the same, it's

all the day, not he's doesn't, then he's a problem, and not for the dynamic

7-7, but for the a fault of disposition that you generate the erida

of a so a person that has ariety a rechase no doesn't

have a affective not know how connect to open the heart and make

that connection that does that the and the end of the difference

the difference is one is one is one is I know connect me

is a rechase and the other is we're a figure

Ascent. I mean I abandon to me myself, me abandon in my necessities,

no I'm a need of a need of a great, I'm a victim,

I don't to put limits, the difference is like a infantilized

permanent where you you you know you did you did you

an year and we're and we can't find with the

absolutely, no? Because, because, because, if you when you have, all we're,

all we're, we're, all we're, but there are things that are that are that are

more your , you're, like, for the conformation, and then, for example, right, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, to be the heart, vinculart, to have

apego. Are you these people are these people who are in reality not have relations

permanent, that have relationships, but not precisely be a victim of that's un-structurated,

no. So, at the contrary, almost the people that have been herrida

of rechassos for not be rechasas other again, they're perfectionists,

very structured very very very very very for not to

not be to be not a so so in really not we're

a person a personality of so solitary isolated we

we see a personality a social so isolated so

that that that doesn't that not he doesn't that

not is pertene but also we can see the other

polarity to someone that in a enormous necessity to

not be rechasado, to be sufficient, of being, of being, so, so, so, then I'm

going to that all of me, that nobody say, that's, I mean, I recognize, and I'm,

and I'm, and I'm going to do all, wow, how little San Amar. San Amar is the

maximum, super little, calida, marvellousous, complacent. I'll do, so I

do all, so I'm to be to me, for that to be to rechasing. That's,

that's, That's in the Rechase. And what would be the polarity in the abandon, in the guay of abandon?

In the abandoner would be, I mean, I abandon, no, I don't even tonne muscular, I'm an

eternal a new, an interna that needs a a a man, a woman, victim,

no, not, doesn't, not, not, doesn't, not, so,

it's like a, a, a, a, a, a, a,

fact, of, a, all, all, the contrary. Iper rigid, structured,

severed. So, like, like, a position, I've so much abandon, and was so destructurated

my infancia, and nobody put a limit and I, I don't, I don't have any authority when

was a year, so, I, there are, there's, my father or my mom if I,

didn't, any, how'd they'd say that I'd get to the or passable a one year I don't

or not me badi-a-moneyed, or not-laping, my mom-and-a-terecterable and so, my mom-it-o-to-missue or not or the abandoner total that's the other polarity

Or the absolute desistructura of I never I see sotener I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to something, I can't start with

I'm trying a project all over but then I'm defunco I'm I'm aburro

I'm I abandoning I abandoning no in this polarity no I go I'm very

rigid no me do you if you're on the channel of YouTube you

you know, they're going to with what they're identifying, because I think all of the one of the most I don't know

I'm not I don't know I'm not and I'm in a part I'm saying you're saying you're going to but I think

to all us should be going to be going to be yeah yeah, yeah, you know,

let's be to write on the channel of YouTube they're more identifications or identifical with the

way, with the deatho or with the abandono and with what of the two polarities.

It's very interesting. Yeah, because, well, those, who are, who are, who we've got no-disponible at level affective,

we can do all, so, what we're going to do ever is to do this because that that's horrible. Yeah,

and it's profound. And it's profound. Nobody wants a, it's an angustia very profound. So,

I'm going to do the, or the grand that all accept, that all want the charismatic

the amiga of the people the person the person the that's all a good

moneyita or the or the better I'm I'm disofficed I'm

disocean me Iislo me I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm

so I'm so you're so I'm so practically I'm don't give I'm no

they're I'm going to put me in the place where they're doing the way of the way to be a position of

no existence that's a very. Firtisimo and dolorousy and more when it's inconsient

when you know when you know when you know you're when you're you're that's that the

that's that's a that's all and that's a great provider and that maybe not

that's that never has been that never has been there at a level affective, that has been

always disconnected in his own world, in his in this that he has created that is what he

communicates his his children, but in reality never has been available at the level affective. And that

has great consequences. Grands consequences in the life of our children. Because when

you don't have a or the life of the life of any

of your person, no? Because when you don't you don't you feel sustained a

level affective and you don't you feel with the you're in then you have you

have to conducts disociativas or destructive no we're we're we're

very complex and very susceptible yes very vulnerable very vulnerable and we have much

and we're much dolor and we're and we're we're important, for so to do you

know to know to know it's so important. So, for so me,

I'm it's very important that we're in this era of the transformation, of the

transformation, of the development, we'll we'll our growth our

respect to the we're because a very, in this affand to be

more, a better a better person, someone different, someone, it's more

from a auto-persecution, you know, we don't we don't we're trying us,

we've been people who are people who are people who are so much, of the papas disocied, of situations

of alcoholism of situations of situations of who who is who's, so, of really,

your papas have been been to have been the budd, no, this, like for

that you those those of the people, the life, the life

is a a life not perfect. No, no, no. And in a reality in where the whole day, it's going to be to be a lot of

people, us do you know, we're doing a lot of things, but not us educates for the problems real that we're going to

the abilities blandas, the communication, the entomium the compassion, the manho of a crisis,

no, no, no, no, there's psychology in the canast basic, no, no, no, no. The master's

those are, and the the teachers, the, the master, well, can't do it

they're doing it, they're not we're doing we're in a necessity of a reform educational where the where the

development where the social human is the problem number one. Not so much not so much to focus us in aprendet

and find out and the battle of what's the thing of the thing, a lot of things that you know

to learnes to makehetito to pass the exam and then then they then they'll then

in the more than an education in the sanation in your in your self-know- know,

Mark, if you don't have to be those apart in you integrated, you can't you can't

do you and from, and from, and from a great, a great weco, you know,

from the formation of who, as like psychologists or psychiatras are

accompanying the the health and mental of other. I mean, I

think there there are great in the way of the and the and I

I think I think profoundly I think profoundly I think 25 years is that I'm so much

I'm started with this of self-knowing of a buskeda of a

nonation in fact all what I have never ever I've never been in the

school so I have learned in all these process to

to chars that that our own infirons, to my own

my own infirons, to the validation of this that I'm that I'm that I'm

that I'm never never so never because are situations that are that they

are those that they don't profoundly and that when the life

we talk that's that we're going to do but the great difference

and that is something of what we about is that you're you're

conscious of that you have that that's a great of that's that you're that you're

to have to you and that you you honor and you you're in that you want to

to do you to do to do it because that that's the sanation in reality and me

it's fundamental and there there's there's always yeah I think I think

I think we're we're saying we're we're we're we're Of course.

I'm going to say. I'm going to say. I'm going to tips to start to solution to it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. For, where I'm where I'm so. So, can sanar these

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Well, my name, we're to talk about of the solutions. Yes. And right we're in the pause,

Anamar, I want to talk about how it, how it's present, how I see if I'm a reason,

I don't, or abandoner or those? So, so why not we don't about the solutions

as the how it's the problem and how solution to see, see, see.

I'm I'm really, we're we're we've talked of the

Rechase. Like this erida of the no vinculation, the disconnection,

the no existence, and how this can generate a personality or hypercomplacient that always want to be

a lot of that they want to that nobody that does do it does get in

wow, no? What marvilla of a woman? To be what

that man that's or that is disconnected and it disocied the

life. So, that is in the own own own

your own his and the same activity laboral, it's

in some mismismated disconnected, no? So this is the reflexe in the

personality of the idea of the family, with the children, with the

children, with the people. Exactly. Because imagine talking to the

rechance, imagine the father that is a papa that is a person

that is a complacient he's a good, amado and applauded no put limits no will put

limits. No is good educating. No, it's a popular. Exactly. He's be

a good. He's a carey. He's a so, and it's and it's so,

not going to do it to do you. No, he's to be accepted. And not it's.

And no know what is your personality? So, it's going to do you're

like we're like a chef barco, papah, mom barco, You're just,

you know, complacient because I want to I'm here. And really not he's going to put limits to

his kids, not going to have a structure. And it's a person that has a good connection.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So, we want to want to be present, but from the,

from the over-protection. Sure. So, I'm, I'm going to over-proteger and not

you're going to get a and I'm and you protect you, and nobody to do you, and you'll create a burbuck of crystal. But that sobreprotection terminate generating rechase.

Because that that's a new-or-as-a-nean-saver-proteged not took the possibility to develop its own capacities, of their own force, and at final, she's feeling incapacitada for the life,

because mom-law, he resolved, mom-or-pap-a-poh-lose-or-pro-protegi-sion, and then it's with a sense with the

sense of the same because no took that's a place to these are

these are these are the two parts. At the at the final of a mama present

if they in the polarity of the dolor or he to rechazer to

go to be to his own his own and that

the also the absent, so the there's like there's my

papa who Who knows? I mean, or not, or, uh, this,

or he put in a place, so, is the that's, or the no, of the

no, we've been pasted to the abandono. In the rechaste. In the polarity.

Uh, and in the abandon, or is the papo, or is a destructurated, that's a

new new eternal, that wants, that you want, like it, like a golden retriever.

Exactly, no. I mean, care me, I want, I want, I want to, I want to,

you want to that you ames. And here is different because this is a young.

Uh, so the mom superprotectorer is a mom, is a mom,

or, is a father very overprotector very present, no. But here the mom

in abandon or the father in abandono, so, so your his son has a

year and you you're talking your problems or you're

you just this so I'm, so I'm suen

me I mean, really Yeah, well, imagineate a a mom that's talking or a man who's

a man who's a question of the family, questions of the money, questions of the questions of their emotional. So are really

really, young or that are, that are, that's, that's, then, but I'm,

no, no, no me know. Entient, I'm very very well of what is so.

Okay. And that a child is a father of his father of

exactly. No. I'm because what does a mom that's a woman

is is to build kids that they rescatter or children or

children or children or many who we we're we're we're

we're we're and protect her to our and she's

to do you so many those did this was

a one a a called that she did. As they're

like they're abandoned or they're abandoned. So they're in the children,

what the people are they're not they're so they're and what they're not they're

to do to do to be to themselves. No it is a common that the

papas Characob Miao Miao Miao Miao Miao Miao

Miao Miao Miao Miao Miao Miao Miao Miao

Miao Miao Miao Miao Miao Miao. So Yeah, meow, meow.

It's moment of doing a therapy. Let's start a lot. Yeah, give us the solutions, Anabar. If, if you can't go, never is too

to say it. How, how we to sanar? A bit, I would put it in in, in passes. So, the first

pass, to know your personality erida. Uh, to know her. Conocerla, how it

is a how it's in your relations, in the relationship, with your your kids, with the

food, with the food, with the food, with the world, with all the areas of our life

with the food also. With the other so it's not, we're doing more

for a so it's so there can be a chance that there can't that they

don't get bad, that they can't or come or come more. Or come to more to comeer

to come to come to be accompanied accompanied, yeah acaced the life is

dulces, good, compensated. The food has a lot about with mom. Pass one. Autoconocinient.

Uh-huh. Ver, how's express these personalities in your life in the relation with the money, with

your food, with your kids, with all. For example, a question classic of therapy that you

say, me, I'm going to my and you ask you like, when was the

first time that you said that's so, right? Exactly. For not not

to not to be the part of the part of, oh, that is that my pair, no, no.

So the good therapist, or the good therapist is to go to the origin, he's, what was the first time

when was the first first time when it's like this? So, you're just like, and then you

like, and then you're and you're so, that's a beautiful. It's a beautiful.

It's a beautiful. It's a because, the thing, because they were in a

therapy very well. The, so when you consults the emotion, the emotion is very chismosa

and the emotion is a messageer of the message primary of when was the and the only

that you need in a therapy a level more so if your therapist you take

to your emotion and to your body to your sensations and to

your world then that therapy is more profound. Sure, because there are

many people that are just in the analysis. That's. That's not no. No. No.

So, you know to know. But one is to know and other thing is sanar. It's another thing very

different. A sometimes we need that step one. As a first thing. And it's

the one of a process long, where then we're going to be able to for example,

I have groups of sanation. Those groups during six months. There are people who

are the six months understanding and never to talk their and then they're other six months of the same group, now if you,

I've got to but it's normal, it's not a fear. It's a pain, it's a heart, and it's a lot of the

way more hard and the way does feel it. Of course, it's very suspicious that someone will to talk those

hered without that precaution. So, without that fear. Because that mechanism

of fear is a same. You know, we're not we're not to be our

disorders, without that we have that that that's that's that's

so important because it's a process sacred. Every who my

my masters of my teachers psychology spiritual, every we're

our own the and the respect of our own process. I'm irritate a little

when I go to go to get to some some more very much very passionate that I'm

I'm not really I'm in a intention but they're like things like, how you're going to

you're to do you and you will be to make that you and until when you

you're going to you wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

after I'm, because, because you need to and question me, question, to question

to when, until me because every who we have a person

a good and is a more so and is amorous and start me obliging to be able to because you

say you you know you're going to to come to say to get to say to when? So,

until I get you still, it's like it's like to keep in the latigo with the

we're so, so yeah and when you're going to give you're doing to your

mother? When someone to say, when someone you know, you know,

you know, you know, don't know, you know, pardon a word, is a, no, and then is a

process. It's a process. But then then they're put it in a cause, and then they're saying, and God,

he's got saying, you know, he's been the braos for, yeah, yeah,

that me don't be able to give the brother the abasasom over, hold them, I'm lastimated.

And you know, and you know, and you know a word, but no, that even

not is good. Cursions, Cormosos. Cureations, Temu? Temu, like the platform

this day. You know, is that many are much the memes that said, you know, so,

you know, to come to your chanclas Temu. So, the platform is more chaffas,

no? So, like, more chaffas of what, it was, they were pretty,

they were not so, not they're not so. The Salation Temu. It's the Sanation Temu.

Where you put it. That's a good example. where you put a parche a chaffa

to the when in reality no, you know, has done the chamba is really to know,

ignore what there is in the final of our and puter a parche fictitious to our dolor.

That's a chaffa. Yeah, I've done to my mom. If I did I,

I'm, I'm just, I'm in a session of therapy in a course that

I'm listening, I go, for favor, I mean Sanar and pardoner

is a process long, comprometied very alecionator the process is in reality

what is it's a capitas yeah, has some capitas and so they're

having to have so it's a process very beautiful. And if you

and you take you're and you startas a process. As you start

you. You're you start where there's my mera, I'm

comprending, and I'm connecting and I keep up and then they're to be able to be able to why I'm

and I'm sure and then you're going to get to get up so it so it's something

something so I'm so I'm so no prisa but without and that's really

a philosophy of life a practice a practical a practical a particular where

all in the life be a possibility to be you. The stages not the time.

The auto-conocimient no is to, yeah me super know- now pass away the time of

I'm going to see. So, of the there are things that you know you know

a little more. The auto-conocimient never never is never. But then

then then then you just you not only just not to understand to

and that that's that gives the things to other level.

And a But sometimes you advance and then you're going to you're going to a pass back. Ah,

yeah. I think I thought that you have done a plan to because the way of the not really,

the cresimian not so so it's a circle. Circ, it's a circle. It's a circle.

It's a circle. No, no, it's a cacos and it's a no. Because it's

a circle. Where is a circle. Where is a so you're those infirons if those if those

do you do you are you're conscious and sands, they're to get a level of a level,

to a cuspide, and then another other way is a desenso where other aspects of the life

you get to get to get a vulnerability. So, it's like the spring, the winter

and the winter, no. Those are our cycles also are not always we're not

we're always we're not even we're very, we're there's confos,

there confunded, confundied, confundied, that us not a

a person we're no important the information that we're the work the work we're doing.

But it's part of because we're because a because of us we're going to we're we're going to

we're not we're not we're not we're not people who not want or not want to not bring,

nor say there's there's there's very very well because we need to that we're

we need we're getting we're we're not we're And there are we're we're

there's cycles of our life, there are cycles of everything, you're going to you're doing, you're doing,

you're doing, you know, there are there's not there's sort of situations like the autumn,

no? And a sometimes you're that you superast or that you're

you're you're you're you know? Amor Man, you just

you're a lot but you're that you know that's completely sanated

and re-cares. And in instead of I'm going, no. Because I paid $100 dollars and the

motivator me and said, that's abhorra therapy, no, that's not. No, so

then I'm, so what, so I'm, I'm, I thought, I was sanated, I'm sanated, and the

first step is love, and love is accepter, and amarm me and I'm to be,

and not start me and not coming to you're, because that is what they're

they're these jurations temu. Where you where you promise that there you're

not going to you're going to you're not going to your own no, if you're going to be

going to have to have to get a you're going that you're going to you're

going to you're to finder you're going to be more more we're not we

don't de we're we're going to get to go the no the

life you will be going to be your life you're the difference

is with how you're that you're and you're to ignore to go to get to

interpretate that's your and when you know you're that's you're

the universe god god's the world of the nature is pervers amorously

to be to be to be a personita that that you that that you

think that you you're that's you you're you're No is sanado.

Yes, yes, yeah, you know, and I was of retach. Yeah, I'm really,

a little, I think that the parents, for so to have a partner is that confrontant because

our, our partner is the diablo perfect to to go to those infirmes

that we we're superados. And that, but if you are, if you're

there's there are there then you you're going to abrassar and

approach all what a sometimes the relations us can't connect and access to really transform it in

other levels because because we can't transform us in the control. If you want to control

the pariah controllable, the job controllable, the childrenable, the house controlable,

total controllable. Predeceible. All of all you can do you can't make a not Creser

Not you know, or you're going to you're going to you're going to you're going to you're doing the when you're doing the real, you know,

you know, you're doing, what you do you know, so there are people who are that's that's when

not I'm going to listen about the podcast of Regil ha ha ha. For a that I'm hear I'm

don't know I'm going to live in the ignoranceia and you and you I'm well,

it's, well is an example, No? Yeah, yeah, it's all all right,

all all right, but how? How are to do you and you're going to do you

exactly? Exactly. Because, how? How many? For what? For sanar and

to get to that position of victim? How many times more have to have to do you

to say, that's that's to sanar the limit to the person. No.

So, so I was with a part to, Yes, yes, castigador, the judgeer, persegidor,

that's, inquisitor. Yeah, I, I'm, you know, you're not sanes now, you're culpable.

You know, you know, to make to let me be to make us to us and we're to get us so, or

less, or less, to pay a a lot of no, and also to end up to end up

to do that, to do that to do that to do that, alborota? Yes, you can't alborot,

but that so that not the Sanation. No, that's a Sanation Temus. No, not you're going to

the same. Well, a lot of sometimes you know, a way to get to you know, that's not

the sanation. The sanation is a process internal, a bit of very much, but part of the formula

is that you do it always and the love is to have a patience. Symptoms

of sanation. Symptoms of sanation. The first symptom is that you can you

can't choose from the food from the relations with more health.

So, if you had to you had to put your pastel complete, now

you know, you're and you're when, if you had to chuter to your

friend toxic, that's that was about about a man,

that's, you know, you know, you're really, you're you're not,

you know, you're not, you know, you're, you're where it's not, you're

not you don't you see, you're No, without Culp. Dices,

no, without your disposition to the health in the different things,

is major. O'ian, how how do you know, what's the not something, without an

thing, exactly. No, I want to go to go to that I'm, no,

no me let tell you. Sinator. Sin Tendor. Is that I'm going to is that I am sure, is that

my oldie, is that is that my abuelita I, I don't know who's got a guy that has made a

three times and it's all over and they're to get my abelina my abelita. Yeah.

No, I'm going to I'm like I'm the plan. Exactly. No, I don't have

to do do that's when we don't know we're justific us, without justificarned, without

pardon, we know, we know, we can't without us without us without a grand

history behind of my decision. So, really is so sanador. It's to say, no,

I'm entoja. No, in reality, no, no, is what what I'm going to, I need to. So,

is so sanador because there a part of you, that, all doing it, is like is like,

is a other, but other symptom of sanation, Mark, is that, is that you

is that you have more disposition to the conservation of the life. So,

you know, you more respect for the naturalness, more respect for the water, more respect, for the animals, more respect for

the life, you know? More compassion, when you when you're recuperating, to be, so,

that's, to be, a bit, our trauma, our diseases, us congelan the humanity.

That we are. And when we're sanando, you're going to be connecting more at

level affective with your your children, you're connecting more a level

affective to the final with the life, you're feeling part of the life,

you're going to the sano in all the things. I mean, I'm, I'm just,

I'm just never to get to start you, yeah no, I'm going to do you're a jurament

no? Until when? When you you'll get to a day to get to a man

toxic, a day he'll because you don't you you have to enfoccur in to change

the forms without the suner the funds. Of the all sanar you know you need to

that the cigar you need to doormeceer the dolor because the because in reality that is a symptom

of a of a problem of a problem or a something that not so you

don't get well when you go and you go and that's Marko and include

connect with the pain with the experience. So, not only when we

go to when we're going to connect to with a eye, no, a dolor

catartic of, pegal to your mother, mientale the mother, to the mother,

who, who recommend to pegle to there. There was a current many years, no,

of therapy psychocorporal that is, imagine to to your mom in the cohing and let

and get and d'all and, no, or pattea your father and mient, tell him,

and the mother or he and he'll and he a lot, I'm I'm sorry, I'm sorry

of those catarsis because in reality you're getting totally a reptilian and your adult or your

neocortesa is yeah devorated for those catarsis so is simply

to make that the little make a beretta, darreienda a lot of a good

a good a good a good a good not a good because it's retramatisa. Ah, retramatisa

because there there are where you pay to get a to runper to get a and you make a marty

and you're and you're protect you you're putting there's a a team so you and you

pay to runper something like therapy I'm if you're going to let's runper

maybe you don't in your car well but yeah but imagine imagineate

the position that's that you adopt front of the violence you're not a favor of

that I'm not I'm a favor of that I'm we need we need our emotions in a

way conscientious and feel them with an adult internal that that's not like a little

you know not you not you don't you never nobody me never me

me never me my kids were and here mom come

because never me I'm okay I I think that if you want to feel you

feel you validate that has to always your neocorteza or your part conscientious

accompanying that process emotional because there there are there there are many

aspects that you have to integrate to your neocortez not not discard it

from a part primitive so you for example you can you can

you can you he, because your brother you called for something. And so

you, you always he has got a much resentment because your brother, he said that

you did that you did you. So, if you go to that to repeat and then

you, why me did you, and no there's a adult who say, okay,

so in reality, this me noja me dole, I'm really, I'm,

I'm did this to do it, not was just I don't do you do you do you

do you you're in the reparation of that scene you're going to integrate things

interesting lessons situations that you generated you you did you

questions that had to your father with your mom so always

in the therapy we we have to have an adult

we accompanying the process or the different or these

The Greeks said in the infamund. That's a way to be accompanied to be accompanied to be accompanied

to be a catartic without any adult who go by pardoning, integrating, connecting,

connecting, learning, so the the one of the adult, in all the areas and

in all the moments of our life. So, if you you're going to say, if you

go to get to the adult. And then you do you

but the adult's what you think you what you think you're in the opinion you

say it's free free form writing so to write so I'm without a

form a structure specific where I remember we're we're I was

I was I never I never I'm never never I never never never I

never and I never and I never I'm not I'm not you

the grammar right and the order being and the letter beautiful,

and nothing and I was and I washugged and I was I'm just over I'm sure of shudis, grosser,

like in a cartita blah blah blah back, sacral, sacer, sacral, sacer, nobody,

nobody, nobody, nor I was to learn, and I was to conserve, and he was to and then

we were we made a ballita, the depositable in a one, a thing there's

there's that I'm all, I'd would be util, uter because you know

you're you're there there are there there's that we And there are

things that we need to pronounce and that we need to you know, you can't say to a or not a, a

therapist or you can't talk or not that form, it's a kind of an energetic of a

sometimes. It's a let's say, me doleo, you know, I'm sent it and I'm sent it and I'm

and then after that was obviously, obviously, of a process, of an exercise of integration,

but it was like add. Also, it's interesting because you're writing. And,

and in a way, there's a process adult there, no? Yeah. A sometimes, if,

if you were diestro, we'd with the right, because if you're a process of a

new interior, because if you're with the hand, you're not that is ambivestro

and you and you're doing the and you start you, when you when you when you're

in my case, in my my hand and I, I'm like, I so,

and then then to say it to to take it as a like a like, for so no

it was, or with the way, no, it no, no, it was the not the

thing, no, it was called free form writing, so, is a scriptural

free, and say, to get, to get, to, and, to, sack,

accompanied, of professionals with a process pre, it was like the donor, it was a

sandwich, it was a process previo, yeah, sacar, and then and then

and then, and so, and it was very liberator, but it a process.

Yeah, and I also think that there are many many ways to some ways to only have to really, we're really to make the

and resonar with the way. Because not to all of all of us not all of all of us going to be

to do a group of sanation, a more in a therapy individual. There are there in the

spirituality. The gestal, no, the sill of the to talk to talk to not everyone

to do you know, to do you know, it's a another great changes real.

Thank you, Anna Mara Uruguella. In where you can find your retires, for your

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