El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 401.- Constelaciones Familiares: riesgos, beneficios y MITOS al descubierto - Fer Broca

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

Hay historias, miedos o patrones que no sabemos explicar, pero que se repiten una y otra vez. Relaciones que duelen, culpas que no entendemos o cargas que no son nuestras, ¿se pueden sanar? ¿Las constelaciones familiares realmente ayudan o solo es otra moda del momento?Fer Broca, con casi 20 años de experiencia y formado directamente por Bert Hellinger, creador de las constelaciones familiares, nos habla sobre ciencia, emociones, riesgos, beneficios y lo que pasa cuando te atreves a mirar tu historia de frente.Así como sanar tu historia te da paz, atreverte a confiar en ti te abre caminos.Te invito a mi clase gratuita: “Rompe las barreras y diseña la vida que deseas.”👇🏻Inscríbete aquí: https://marcoantonioregil.com/vida-podcast/*Importante: Nuestros invitados son expertos en sus temas y reflejan su conocimiento y su punto de vista, siendo conscientes de que cada una de las opiniones es totalmente personal. La información, datos, comentarios, estadísticas que se presenten en el Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil, son de exclusiva responsabilidad de quienes las emiten y no representan, necesariamente, el pensamiento de Marco Antonio Regil o de la producción del podcast.

What are the constellations family areas, advantages, advantages, risk, benefits, you have to constellar because you

have identified, that there's something that's related, connected, with an history ancestral. Obviously,

there are many voices that is audotherapy, that's charlataneria, that this not function. The danger is to be

in the hands of a person no professional. Because there can generate a disorder cognitive, could generate

a disorder not in the therapy traditional, not in the way. Quantomensensensi-Ration Alaya. Quanto

the constellation is more profound. I'm going to live it with you're going to this. As far as

all the words, all the thing is the thing you say, Papa, I'm doing be a

my son, Rueh, it's a production of RGL, and all his rights are reserved

episode 401. You've been to podcast, you've been to us in our

program of the group formula, and we we've talked of the constellations

familiares. That I don't have experimented and never has ever seen. So, today, because you're

did you know, because you did it, we're going to let's explain, for those who have seen

the episodes that are the constellations familiares, advantages, disadvantages, risk, risks,

benefits, what does the science, that they say in contra of the constellations

familyars, but we let us to be, right? Correct. Correct. And I'm

sure that will be a process sanator for Claudia, for the people that

stay in the studio and for who are in the house also. Exactly. The constellations have this

marvellousous possibility to talk the heart not only in the presence, but also in the distance.

Now, the constellations familiares have been decades, correct? Yes. Creates by Bert Hellinger.

So, here the grand advantage that we have, and the grand privilege that we're

that the creator Berth Hellinger, creator of the constellations familyers was just who just who

who trained to Ferbroca to make them So, so it comes of the line direct of the creator.

For me, it's a great honor, the have learned about direct to Bert. It's a

major. It's a name that I'm going to work to work with his life,

and the constellations was gestando as a process more psychological.

And at the time, he knew that he knew a component that's

a semila a past of 35 years in a vision much more more

solistic to the constellations. Berth Geller yeah fellio after six years. Alecels.

Aleman? of the lastime. He studied how did with this? It's a very interesting.

Bert Geninger participated in the Second War Worldial, in a form distant, but he took the

Second War World. Then he converted a sacerdote Catholic, studied

theology, he did he did he universities in South Africa and studying, being a

master, you know, a rector, a director of some universities, I'm going to

America and studying psychology, he entered this coquillita of, I'm sure of my sacerdocio, renunciable,

he's a psychologist, and he's a child, and in a moment that is very fortuit and a moment very clear, he starts to

a person and he does a question that the person no can't say, let's say, that that person

is atorado and for more that he's he can't try, no more that's has relation with something with

their parents. It's a question to be a question. And the person can't in account

that the that was that was happening that was something that's something that's so that's so that's,

bring to the father of the patient, a person major, resolve the conflict with the papa,

that not his patient, but he's he has done that he has done it to the child can be

can be able, that the he can be a foe' so that's the first, the The issue not was in that session, but it was a session of psychology traditional,

he helped to liberate his blocker, blah, blah, blah. And so, he's occurred to have Bert Krenger, that some cases, the conflicts of the people are conflicts that have erreded. Conflicts that have to be with the cranesa, with the education, with the world inconscientet, with the world symbolic. And a part of this allysgo,

he says, ah, well, a lot of when I can't resolve with the person, trygance to the papas of the person. Okay. He's a job with the person and resolve to the person and resolve to the papas. until there's all good.

But there's a moment in where he is a time a person major and when he says, no, well my papa,

he's just my papa, he's not, he's he's a lot and he he's like a moment of

these moments of these moments of the moment that he came to another person that no was about

that he not that was that he was that he was conditioned that he is simply what he

you, you parate there, you're like you're you're a simulation of if your

papa you're saying here that you could be able to you can't be able to be you're in but the person

that's parted that person that's a person that no had no any idea or profound about the

yeah I feel things and and I'm you know you can't you can't you can't you can't

you're not you're going to you're going to you're going to you're I'm saying you're saying you know

you know you're saying that you're getting a person right that's has a connection

with that what's representing. And of that is that when you're in a position in a position

in a place, that is a camp that's a camp family. So, we have an inconsciente collective.

We have a inconsiente family. And so the regal have an inconsient familiar.

There's a like a register. Like a same thing, the same the Fescese,

the the goschis, the gosman, and we're a few, we're So, Bert, in that moment,

he does know that there is a little to what he nomber the alma family or the inconsiente and a part of that he starts a way to start

to start calling us constellations familiar. Yeah. And here I have data, there

studies that report them in the health mental after a constellation, for example, of the

University of Groningen, or how it's pronunciable, an article that says, the effectiveness

of family constellation therapy in improving mental health, the effectivity of the considerations

familyers for to make sure the health mental in the family. This was published in Orlando in

2021, but also obviously there are many many there's there to recognize it, that they

are saying that this is pseudotapia, that is charlataneria, that this not It's

blah, blah, blah. What is your point of view of your point of view of obviously is that it's when it's

really. And I think the part important is that the constellations familiales not that that if you

constellates, you know, all in your life will change and tomorrow you're going to

make a much, that's the constellations family are you are able to liberate

cargars and patterns, and when are being given people and a way

correcta, they can result extraordinary. Now, I'm Mark, that there's many many people, there's a

head, it's a way, and they're when you're in the assent to the death, and then it's the spirit of the abelite, I'm going to be,

this is a tabla spirit-in-bock to the wihia. The cussarations family are, a camp of information energetic, in

where no, there's no-mortals, never there's working with that inconsciential, you know, the morker not, the morto, the

no posse a nobody. The person was because a morrothed no, it's because a morto he's got a lot of the tequila. No, that's, exactly, no, it's of the exact, no, it's of the constellations familiar. And the part important is that

many people think that the constellation suple, in a in fiscal, in the therapy human, then the constellations us are going to help

when the conflictos are the conflict that bring the systemical of the family, when it's a pattern that's a

when it's a thing, when it's what is the that's what is the thing that's the thing that's when it has to

do you know when it's there's a other many techniques that also that also that are

that they're depending on the type of conflict that I'm trying to you're for first one of the other

I've done or I've done. And the really I'm of these this,

I don't want to say skeptics, but I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not but I'm bet

to Ferebroca that's a that's an one because there you the clave for Ferebroke

I'm because I thank you I'm because I thank you because I'm because I'm

because I'm that you're someone who not the miracles or things like is that in best of

help us us are going to because I think a confiance in fervoroca I said

do you do this episode and I'm completely able to do in private not here in the podcast

to relax me I mean I'm actually I'm because you're your friend because you're

because I've said to have been some people I'm quite sometimes there's there's

there's to the constellations and there there process to process. The constellation

needs to have a focus. You have to constellate because you have identified that you

have been that's related, connected with an history ancestral. An example typical.

There are people who can't get a pairha and they can't be nice,

beautiful, sophisticated, decent, they're listening to Markor Regal. I mean

all the things marvell things they're doing yoga, constelan

all, all, all, and they can not, they can to have to have a relation of

a pairha. And then so you're to observe and it's my mom and my my mom too. And my

little bit more and my go and I do know that there five women behind me in the history that's not

they've been a relationship. Or some circumstances that is that I don't know because in the life I have

incredibly well and I'm incredibly well and I'm think I'm think I'm know not appreciating me

that make that make the life impossible that they they're rompient and I

know and I do to do to do that my my father he passed with a

other way that's that's where we have to start to give us to understand that the constellations us are doing to conscientiously

and honorably of a form really able to to sanar, to know, to to be a to know, a problem.

A complement. A good of the therapy traditional. No, it's in the thing.

I think a constellation needs to get a process of always, and there things very pointuales

that is just to only to just to do you you know you can't you can't

you'll start to do this nothing to do you know, I'm going to go to go to because I'm going to start

no, it's it's useful always, it's a process and the constellation as a companyment like a support of the

process. I'm going to to say, I'm going to do it's a problem, it's a rompecabes, it's a tool,

I'm a way you know I'm going to try to another time. It's like one one

I've practiced much the therapy gestalt where where they put in a place there a facilitator

and I'm going to talk with my mom. I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, well,

well, and I just I came out of year and it's a thing very good, no. But you're sitting, and then you, you're going to, and you're,

and at the beginning, it's incredible, and it's incredible what happens. It's a little bit, like, the, the grand difference

is that you have two elements claves, the person that's the person, and someone that has a idea of the

story of that person, and it's a great difference. Because when You know, you know, and you have a image of who's in the other

cell and so you are a little working on. Here's a way to get a question more more than the part rational and

conscientious, I confiion in that we will be able to understand, and it's very important the way that we're

even the people of therapy, so, the therapy, so the therapy to stopa things,

but it's your compromise, your constance, your discipline, your love proper, the,

that makes that those things are in a a life beautiful. If you're

a person, that's a a person, you're going to a therapy, and you're going to a desgarriate,

then the therapy, for more than that money, it's not you're to do you do that you're going to be

that you're right. Now, the person that is, that's a purpose, no know,

in this case to be Claudia Alcaras, our productora Reina, you're going to be a person here

of our community of Alma Matters. And is deliberately someone that

not know a Claudia. Absolutely. And it's very important this.

That's not that's a idea, and I don't think I'm a idea, I'm a question

and I'm a question. And it's a question. No, you've seen a question of no, to investigate.

And there's where it starts the constellations from a profoundity distinct. In the

constellation, just to clarify the people that never has seen, we're a person,

in where you put a one or various people that are in the real with

a person, but that in the exercise no they're going to I'm going to say,

Marko represents my papa, but you no, you know, you know, of the person,

no, no, I'm not to do you want to be the equivalent, no.

And what I do you? There's the magic. You know you know to say, you're going to

say, you're saying, you don't, no, I'm, but of getting to information. It's something

is something we'll live we'll be able so, and just, just for that the people

do it there there's there's a Constellator, that is who is who is who is the

the movement. But that's person that is there is there that's a little to

the clienta or the person that's being facilitated, talk? It's, can't. No, it's

not you have to talk. And there's where the Constellator enter. There's a guy, there's

you know, what you need to you know what does use a question of the cabel of the company.

You have to connectada with that role. It's something important. Because,

for example, it could happen that a person that usually not you're, a person

that's more a lot of a condoctenida, in the constellation is a magdalene and he

and he has a lot of the world. Because it's not it's not a whole the conscience

of the story, but it's facilitating. The word that's representing the history

of someone to be to help that person should be quite quite a question.

So, don't have to do anything. No, I have to get to get good. No, I'm

to say anything anything to say, no, sir. And if I'm, in this case,

Claudia, he's a car, he's a woman, but it's a man, but he's a

man, but he's in what I'm saying a love and I'm saying, I'm sorry, not try to

do, do you know, to create a story positive. In the most minimal. In the

most minimum. In the most that's. Nothing of nothing, because, we're, we're

we're, when I'm, when I'm I say, for example, a person, I've talked, in this country that has their people who have lived a sequester, for example.

And, of pronger to put a person and say, you're going to represent a a sequestrator. Well, the person that will represent the sequestrador,

if you have this part, will put a face of malo, I'm a person horrorosa, and you have to do you have to do you get the garas.

And the reality is that when constellations, we're not we're not we're the person in the surface and in the act.

We're consternando something something very profound. You know what you about you've got to do you know, I'm going to

say that I'm going to call to a person, no, it's not important, no it's not no, but it's for that the people don't know

someone. Avicens me before. My my pecho no is a bodega but all me know,

but there's no, but there's all the beautiful because it's what occurs and if you don't know if you're the father or

a, or an husband or a girlita or a country or a part of the is much more useful. It's much more useful. No, it's much more useful. No, no, for nothing.

No, no, for nothing. For nothing, and I think, and I think it's something important. We cancelar a little more here. Also, it can't be able to know the part beautiful

that's not information consciential al-Ayea. Quanto men's justo there, the constellation is more profound. In a session or in some, in some, in, some,

in some, in, some, in, some, some tallyers over constellations familialations familiar. The people know what

is representing the other. You, you're just to represent to represent and you're if you're a person or

a ex-married. And so that's, you can't canceling costs? Yeah, I said a little in

sense. Oh, okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm cellar my zapos.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, the perro, the per the perro is, the per

the, I, the, I, the, I, you, in the vinko that's

your little and your part of your system more so you're so

your person is a part of your story there's people say,

I'm I've said, I've I've lived all the life with a little my family,

but is part of your system. But also there's there are people not positive

that we have done and that can be part of the system too. It's a

person that a a medical that for a negligence termina, decapacetado

to your child, the medical for always is part of the history, because it not is positive,

not it's not a good, but it is part of the decision of your and the life of the

family not will be to do after the after the surgery. In the person,

that a medical, that's you can't you'll do you, you're going to the life,

because it will be a benefactor. So, the system, when we're talking about the system

family with the system family with the people, of those great friends, of those padrinos,

of those tios of carino, of that people with that we a lot of that we're in part of our history

more profound, although we're not parted the apegid and the thing. It would be a little

that's incredible. It has to have fallen to be so I can't constelar a Zimba. You can't constellar

a Zimba I'm and you can't do you to do you that's that you

can't get to the person because Simba you put in the constellation and see

No, but sure, that's sure, but it's quite, but it's incredible, yeah, it's

something very powerful, and the people believe, the people people can't be a lot of a lot,

but constellar a little to put a place in the little bit of a man, you get to a man,

and it's a more, you know, you say, you say, you say, you're, you're possible

that you want to so, so you're a honor constelar a per I'm

I'm learning to constelar in some moment I took constelar to

a woman embarrassed. But when I put in that paper, I started to say, what form of care of

the momas? I'm done the constellation and I'm like you love. So, how beautiful

the feeling that's a love because it's an love because it's a mom for that can

be able to a petro, so can't constelar countries, so can't constelar countries,

so can't constelar, decisions. You imagine in your story and the of much people,

a migration is a change of life. And that the country to you go is an energy of your system that you can say

well to say, no you can't or you can't not appreciate. No, I accept. Like our our people.

Like, that's very unusual and that's very hard. You know, I'm pretty that's very so.

So, so that's so it can't be so much it's just the camp incredible of what you

can't be a super interesting. Oh, yeah, we'd be able a episode. Ah, no,

this is the episode. This is the episode. Oh, there's some so for the when you constellas or you preas

or you're part of a constellation? The danger is to be in the person no professional. Because there can generate

a disorder cognitive, it can't generate a distortion. For example, if someone, that's a

question, I want to say, it's a person that is a person that invent and says, I here,

I think you you know, that you do you do so, or not he abused, if that you do you're

to get to enter, you're to generate, you're going, then the part delicate

is that you're going, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, redito, the word

not saying, that's acutient to do you to do with a person professional, who has studied

two, three or four years, no, there's, I'm a course of YouTube,

of 15 minutes, so I'm not exist, no can't be, because you have to

learn much to be to know, you know, you have to work, practice. When,

you were you, you were first, your maest, you, you're, I'm,

I'm, I'm, Burt Constellar three years, to the long of three years, that was in Mexico two

times a year. I was, I was in those courses and I learned. Also, I was in an institute of constellations

learning the theory of Burt Hellinger, but it was very really real for me. To be the idea the

time, I took the thing, I'm that he to me, with my father and my mom.

So, the two great constellations of the life, Burt, me constel with my

father and my mother. No, I mean that I don't have no conflict with

they're they're that's, but I'm a good kind of a lot of people to be able to and then the specializing to the

world, but the name is, you know, you have to come to an institute serious, of a process of much time, of a conciences very profound, and something very important.

The constellation the constellator, you know, a person with a work constant. Sure, if it's a

project. Exactly. That's not that's not possible. So the Constellator has,

that's a job, has been to have constelado many times. I've constelado,

I've constellating almost 20 years. I've constelated to much people in many parts

of the world, but I have participated in a quantity, I think in some

three hundred constellations I, of the represent to be to be being

constantly, that's you can't work. And when you know to use to there's a

always, there's always, always. Here we're going to be here. I'm going to give to the people who

is in the person and the people who's the people who about about that he said, he said, the conflictors

of the people are the same. Campia the intensity of the conflict, but all have a rid of abandono of a father,

of mom, of the tio, of the novi. All those the children grew with a mom that

I mean. You know, you know, you know, you know, so you do you know, so you did it, no.

In all the families there's a barrage, in all the families there's a little, so it was a little bit

and it's you know, you don't see that your family is the poor. But the other family has the

shitton the and has a secret. So, when constel us, when we're when we're we're all right,

it's we're all over things with things with them, no matter, no has been,

if they've been in an orphanato, there's always an option to go to go to the relation with and for that

when the people participate in the constellation not only who the person who's not only the solicitante

the constellation but the participants and the people who are around also also that

the constellation is that is a promosissimo the process super interesting a bit let's get in the manita

who would help me want to help us to help there many many many volunteers

and volunteers. Well, we're going to to do a little short. What emotion. And regressando. Yes.

What's going to. So, we're going to a little pause because we're going to to get the sillons, the mess.

And it's to be the constellation. It's the way, to get, I'm going to be a podcast. I'm not going to

start. Only going to talk, Dr. Claudia Alcaras, with a person voluntary here the public that you're going to

do you want to prepare and we're going to see the constellation. And at final, it's all

all the final, I'm going to when you're to make you know, to me indicted that you know, I'm saying,

you know, you know, the information. Marko. This, Simba, if he comes, there's a

problem? Nothing. Nothing. No, no. No. It's not. It's not. It's not.

Yeah, we'll be able to but if no, no, no, no, let's put him to come to, let me

Okay. When Acama, you do you mean, you do we say, I'm, and simply for that we'll talk about that's what you. For sure.

We're going to ask you to ask to the person. The representative. All the representative. We're going to try the microphones. I'm a lot. I'm a possibility.

The constellation when no when not it's a grabada and it can do 30 to 40 minutes. Depend much

but no is the case here. It's going to be a short. We'll go to do it. We're going to be profound,

correct, correct, how it's a little more more shortito. Dependent much of what is a

work. There's many things that are subject to constellation. So, can constelation and depending

of the theme, is the depth of the amount of the and we

will be that the process to do you absolutely. You're going to do you're

doing a process obviously, then they're going to be 40 minutes but can be

10, 15, 20, and something we're a little that we before

to enter, this is for to sanar. And it's to sanar a Claudia and for all the people

that's not to do you do you know, to do you do get in the phrases and they're being well,

repitans, and if they're doing in your house, no, don't worry,

that's part of process, but not confunding the the and the

soundation. There are constellations that there people, it's a try and it's resolve and

not so solved it nothing. And there constellations that can be constellations

in the people terminate and there's a profound and there's a but that's like in the

therapy, you can go to get to the therapy? But there's the concertar that's just it was goodyxed because they're

five more so they're retortiched and then chiledon and it's, no, sir, no,

no is the show the constellation is something that's a really deep and that can get to the point

and it and so no and so that does it doesn't do you do it's not it's

not we're going to force to to happen absolutely no but it's the purpose

sanar. Sanar, of the real. It's a constellation. Not is a episode of

Merlin. Exactly. Not to go to go to to get the person. Nothing of

that's. Well, something you want to you know, because right we get us

a person who will there. There's a thing we're a constellation? Yes. There's a

benefit for that they're not the not the very clear. The constellation is a guide to

in this case, for Claudia and for his relation with his

but there many people people who can be able to start saying, I want to work

with my papah and they're going to do this because of their history, but

I'm sure that there people who is a fortuito, that's not a episode, and

that can say that that's that's so that's I'm very I'm so I'm

benefit to understand it, I'm benefit to accommodate in the carousonc

and something just to just to just to just to just that the

I always I always the people constellations. There are three constellations that all the stars

that we're we're going to do. The constellation with mom, the constellation with a and the

constellation with the life. With the life. The life is a force. And there is a person

that's disconnected of the life. There's people that's there's a way. There's

people that's sentada front of the life. There's people who are going to be

we're trying to find that life. Suffering the life. Suffering, suffering, and

people that I'm saying, I'm going to let's get to with the life that's going to be resistinging it.

And you can be doing it and you're doing it and amandola and to be and a gusto with her. And the

point beautiful is that when a person constella he regala to the that is the

grand regalal the same my relation with my mom, I'm I'm not

my children, so the women as I'm the men can't

so and it's so so much that the abelos, they've

to carry a costal enormous to get a much while you're a lotchilla, the time, I think,

I want to algererless the life to the people that they're because we're people to people who have

them have a life more more easy. And of that there's a lot of books, of psychologists

and psychiatrars that are the secretos there's a book horrible because it's a family secrets

or secretes family. I remember that I studied in the master of in psychology spiritual,

where they're they're talking that's, no, that's the about the mother, he was a

real of the person, he's prostitue and then he left that he never,

never, never he never, never, he said, it's never, and then,

and of a three generations after, a child that no needs to the

money and repute the patron, repeat the patron, and and he's, for what

he did, and that's so, So there is a It's a, it's a fascinating. It's a

thing that's a thing, it's a thing that's a very authentic. There are, there are even some stories more social

that we can't see how they're in patrones, the family real British, which is of the

knowledge of popular. Like, every generation, there's a person who's a person

and there's a person other way, and the next generation, and the next generation, another way,

I always, if I'm the king, or the Ray Carlos, tell you that I'll constern what I'm in the

ballet of the caron and I'm to consider a family real Britannica without the

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continue we're going to the podcast. Claudia, I'm going to ask for favor that you put here you,

you know, no you need to do nothing special, just be you same, in calm and in quietude. Deja

that your body can look as it need. Betty, I'm going to talk

the and the back you see everything you see you connect

with all what you connectas and you want that see

they're to look at those eyes without words, just mirandos,

mirandos authentically. And I want that you encounter in that mirab, not in the color of the

eyes, or in the form, but in the mirabes, that you know, the energy of your papa. Abre, ligeramently

your labios, and you also. I want to connect you connect with what you you see with what

you're in you what you're what you're what you're much that's say

what is the and his what what I'm what I'm

what you I'm what you me did do do you do I'm so much

I'm sorry. I want to I'm going to you know, to connect with what you know, it's not

to be no good, no, no, or not, or correct, and incorrect. What you

see when you see? When you see it? I'm sorry for all the thing you.

What you do? Tristence. Much of the and and the

and the I don't I'm in my life I want to you

know you you're you you're you I'm I

my dole to see you in the soil I don't

always me do you always me do you be so it

for you and it and do you so Papa?

And me I've really so Papa. That I have been I've

have been in the soil. That's in the soil. Relations, Papa?

Relations Papa. In where I have to be the Fuerte. In

where I have to be the Furt in where I have to be

in where I have to be I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

Cansada, Papa. I'm tired, Papa. I'm tired of to be. I'm tired of to be. What do you when you

see you? I'm a little more to be a little more but I think that I'm

here with me with me. I don't need to. Look, and that's how many

has been to the soil, to save to your papa and to help to

other people. And I want that you want to go to go to

go to rescue, I want to you see, you need that still,

or you know, you know you need more. I'm feel

liberal. I want to be able I want to you know how many you've seen symbolically I've

repented in the suey and I'm and I think you with

all the love that you say you you say you

you I'm I I I I I'm I

and I thank I'm and I thank for what is men's I'm Papa

I I'm I libero to to to to to

I'm you I made I just and even I and even I'm

and you and in the place in the place I'm in the

I'm a a man, I'm A father a father A father A father A father

That's a That's a papa Do you Do you see Do you Looka Looka Looka

First Lookal First Looka That's And And do Thank

Thank you For all what You're I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm In this mirabre, I want to you know, I do you a I'm a

I'm I'm by I'm by I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm a digno in my heart digno in my heart and I'm

and I am I and I I'm I'm to a man in my

life to a a of my life to feet. Digno. Digno. Digno of my heart. Digno of my

my heart. And they're an an abraceous, for forward. In that a brazo, so, they're in the time to sanar, all what they need

to sanar. More than the words, all, it takes a whole, and every person, if it

needs, he'll have his hands to her carouson unying this

love for papa this place honorable and there's there's

your story that's that's something that's so so

so I'm you I'm to she to she

I'm she let's take the one you say

if something if something if I'm do do

you do to for you to too so can't for that you

can't for you with much and so and a very much and a now

a so I'm so and I'm sure, and I'm sure, that I

know to give to you know, how you very well

very very good in my great in my great in a

constellation that would be turning to turn you turner to

it's you serve, you do you do you do you and you

it's precious to be the movement and the thing you have a thing to a man

to be not in the piece. A bit, what experimented on? A bit a

power, this, sanator and the opportunity of that that that

Claudia, as maybe many people can give that's the

time, where we're where we're looking not is the correct. That she

has, like you have the right to have a lot of that's the

yeah. And the impulse because it was inmediate was entering because I think

you cast and you because the papa needed to

feel I had to be in the soil because he was very

very so was so and you and you clo

I don't I You know, you see how you went and connecting with what you saw you're going to at the first it's like,

it's like, it's like, it's like, you know, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to really the attention

that's at the first of the time, and I'm like I'm saying, God, me, would have to be feeling something more,

I mean, because, I'm going, I'm not, no, no, I'm not, no, no, I'm not

I'm doing, and she was like, and she's about, and she, and she, when totally me,

I'm, when it was to the piece, and there's, it's, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, something, is that's a natural, a constellation

has to be a fluid, no, no, no, no, there's to do you to say,

you're going to say, you want to protect your father, you in your life, you're

connecting, so, then, then, so, when you, to get it, on the

, you're, you're, you're, you're, a little disconnected, and it's natural. And

something of these little little details that the constellators we've been, he's all the time

with his hands here at the time in the form archipal, like the little in the bolsillos. If you're

down the where they're the bolsas the pants of the pants of the women. When this

is a symbolical, it's that your father not it was it's that I don't

have, I don't know no, no, I'm no, no, I'm more, and then

so, I'm so, and then for that so for That was to the

I don't I'm I'm going to but I'm this signal is, yeah no I'm going

to make you know I'm not I'm really so much and he's and he's

and he does a and he has been and I've got a more than the part

rational that is an impulse very, very natural and very human because when

we're when we're we're not we're we're considering with the spirit

that is something that's something with the information. And that person, your papa, that's,

that's, that's, that's, that's, to do that this is, what I'm that's,

is a beaughance and to pardon. Wow. And apart me, I felt very accompanied by

you, so, your presence there was always like, no, like,

cubidora, this is super important for who who can, to say, to do something, but you

did you, but you did get to you, you were, you were, you were, and I was,

and I needed that was just in the energy of his papa, that this could be a if someone

comes to, I'm going to be human, his thinking his thinking irumped. So, there was,

there was, there was a movement in that you had to make you to do that way,

so, how you're a, so, so, or me to be going to make this

no, no, no, look, one, one, one, one part,

a part one part assient. Now is a movement very strong. It's something that's something that's a lot of people that come water. Much of the people. To start the water, Claudia. No, not to have that

impulse of the cellular. I mean, to give us a hourita, let's say, of calm, and it's all right. And other thing, this is velocity instantaneous. But, well, it's just like to take much water and startarse. And something is what you do you does

this, you're going to you're going to you're going to you're doing how this simil with your father you have

passed with some men, because at final, papa is who us can't to be the women to

with the women's to them to be the men's around with the women's so, so inconsient

me, that's the next a next a next next podcast. Okay, then so it's

very important to discounted of this if you have been a accompaniment therapeutic, is

good that you talk about your therapist, with your psychologist, and if you need to this case, we chams a practice also.

Thank you. It's a thing that's the attention. So, this are things technical of Constellador, but your

energy was about a pretable front of my papa, no me want to doble with my dad. So, so to open the

lapis is, accept. And, f, so, so, so it's the, for so the language corporal that you

started to the language What you do? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no me I was able, exactly. No, it was a, it's a, to be a... To see, how my father's, how I protected my dad? No, me dole what I mean, no, no matter what you're, no matter what you're, no matter what I'm protect. I'm not.

So, there was, like, a disapprovation initial, and then then, then. Then, then, then you know, and then you're in the carlestone. Oh, yeah, and there's the ability and the experience and the education of a good conservator. Yeah. Because you were living, you. even to Bette and also you

to see, here, here not in this moment and you and you're accompanying the movement

something. Something something is that a constellation has that a constellation has been a

concept of a constellation if the constellator if the constellation is the protagonist is the

protagonist is the thing that's the thing is the thing is going to go and

I'm listening that melody and I go and I'm going to the

Delicade of the equilibrium because, for example, if you do you know, that's the maybe

was a little bit of a lot of yeah, yeah, it was what was what you know,

so it's, so, it's, it would be that, it would be put, that's,

so, so, so, yeah, is where you, and you know,

in the practice, you, you, you're, you're doing a kind of

the thing, it's a, so, if, if, if someone

enter, not the case, but If someone enters doing the show, what I do is literally

to start them to say, you know, you're not, you're doing, accompanied to your company to your person,

you're doing, this, like, you're doing, and here, but the other is that you connect with your

own own to project, to project your history, and start to understand. Exactly. And there,

you have to take a implication, of that's that's in the role, that's that's always

to the service of the history of the history of the story of the story of

the Furt. Now, this did we do. What we did about? We did it. More than we

were 20, 25, 20, and so many times. Well, no, a minute, less,

because we've a little bit talking about him not a minute. No, less. 10. 4.

40. Cere it. The one of a very well. Constellate of the president.

I'd have a man to this country. Yeah. Oh, something that we

have to know, because this could do that much more time. The

consterator it's not it's very large. It can be very short. It can be pretty short. There's a question that

can't be literally seven minutes, five minutes, but it has to where is the person in your history

personal and that also can't the representant. Also, there was a moment in the moment in the I thought

it was in where the constellation to ask a person in this case in this case,

we did it but in reality to your father to do you a father, you do

you do because you know the story I don't know know but energetically but energetically

the passel and the and it's he's he was he was he was

more more so so there there there was where I know I'm

I'm maybe someone more that's but I think what we did you

was what I need to you something something something and I

think something for I'm so that so of here because we

need we need a microphone for that someone but in an

in an an environment regular, there are some there are people. It's a can't be more. It's a

case. And you're just you know, you know, I'd say, you know, you know, you say,

you know, you know, to say, they'd say, what's the question, in a lot, you know,

you say, you're saying, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, and you're,

you're not, you know, what we want to we're, and so that's something really useful, because then

then there the, the, the, the, And, of the father,

then the the mind septica could say, yeah, that's but I'm sure that's

because the father could have got to be able to be able to say, I'm saying, I'm the

same thing, that's ported really bad. And in this case, the story, the papa

so inclino, because there a thing, that's really very good, very good. It's really

very good. You do it does a good? Yeah, yeah, and I do it

and I'm I've got to continue doing. Never I've done but I'm much

good initiation. Good initiation. For a bad for a bit imaginator. For something something.

Because I have been been a sure of we're going to be sure, we're going to get to

get a and we'll put him to call it. Pothelian for who thought you about

to be a good for me. No, something something. Thank you. Something.

more to know what we're this is an exercise of sanation, always of a nonceal

not a constela for the chisement, to know the ex-aubelita, no she constela for curiosity, it's because there's an

objective of and the part important is that that you're that you have to get to get in the life.

The constellations us open a space in the conscience and there and have to take that concern

that you and change or take or take decisions that I'm in a question. I mean,

I like much much of what I did obviously me call the attention, but I'm a lot.

It's normal that you say, there's a there's a there's a there's a little I'm going to want to be or

no, it's like, no, a little bit to what you to pass to the, the very

good news is that in a space normal, common, the constellator has been to be a

person. And if you say, you say, no, I'm going to get to look to

because there's many many things to get to that we say, I don't I want to to rask

to this thing, because if not you're going to start a you're going to

do you more than more fast more, more facile and then you do you get a

brink to do but you but you can't start to that always always

know that the constellation that's you know, but communication is more

more more than you we're going to let's we're to consider to a

person in your life your your your mom your mom would

be the constellation. I've been a relation dramatic with a little bit more a little

I don't know like it's it's more a more a part of an order of a person in the

apparent in the apparent in the apparent I'm I've got to get to my mom here.

Exactly. To get the the question. It's really, there's there's a

great relationship with my my son and when when you're when you're when you're

so far but in the principle so your mother. No, in principle we're going to

start from a little I'm going to I'm going to but I'm going to but I'm going to but so it but so it's

perfect. Well, so very very good. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you.

Thank you for to facilitate this demonstration. Thank you for an honor and thank you. And thanks for the confidence

of both. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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