El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 406.- Tocar fondo no es el final: La historia de Luis Ernesto "El Güero" Franco

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

A veces la vida se siente bien, pero por dentro algo no termina de estar en su lugar.En este episodio, Luis Ernesto “El Güero” Franco comparte un capítulo de su historia que pocos conocen: cómo las heridas de su infancia regresaron años después en forma de vacío, ansiedad y cansancio emocional.Aquí hablamos de trauma, salud mental, fe y el proceso real de reconstruirte cuando te das cuenta de que no puedes seguir viviendo igual.Es una conversación cercana, honesta, que toca fibras muy sensibles y te acompañan mientras manejas, caminas o haces tu día.Y si tú también estás buscando un punto de apoyo, aunque sea pequeño, aquí va uno, te invito a vivir 21 días de gratitud, un espacio para volver a ti, recuperar paz y ver tu vida con más claridad.👇🏻Inscríbete aquí: https://almamatters.com/gratitud*Importante: Nuestros invitados son expertos en sus temas y reflejan su conocimiento y su punto de vista, siendo conscientes de que cada una de las opiniones es totalmente personal. La información, datos, comentarios, estadísticas que se presenten en el Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil, son de exclusiva responsabilidad de quienes las emiten y no representan, necesariamente, el pensamiento de Marco Antonio Regil o de la producción del podcast.

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of alma matters.com that's here with us in the studio and we give us welcome to the good Franco that we're welcome. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What's good that's here with us. Because this program is dedicated to the development

personal and learn that when we have to get to get And we'll come to and we'll we're going to and we're

not one, no one, or two, or three, or five, but a series of caithes and it's

exemplar, how you've never been, one and other time, how not you have lost the

faith, how you've learned, how you've learned, then we've and then we're and the

and the and the last can because I think that's the life, no? The idea that's the

way, the way, not that's more fast, no, you're you're more

And you're more rapid. But the but the cases are the and it's part of the

life. And you have to get to be to be able to go to that's normal. The theme is that I'm going to

get a I'm going to get a real. That's made that I'm doing it's going to be to be viral,

nor much less. Where you show you start letteros and it's very commovedore

to be when when you those vas so not that here are my letterititit you're

you're you're one of those cartulinas, of those cartons, and the my eyes, your body entire,

there was a connection very very strong, so, if you had been a class of expression corporal,

that not was, it was, I'm saying many things without a one single a single with that

post. Before that, thanks, thank you for the invitation, the respect and the

admiration is Mutua. Thank you. And that post was very, very curious because I

I'm going to write a and I'm you know you know, you know the syndrome of the imposter

who are going to read a little bit of and I'm doing it because I'm doing much

years I'm going to I'm a I'm a doing a everything I'm going to know I'm

that I'm saying a because I'm not you know because you know a story of your book?

I know a one day and I'm every that I'm going to me know why not you know

because you scribes a story of your life, I'm going to and I'm and I'm going and I'm

and then I'm the syndrome of the imposter I'm going to make a post because I have the those episodes

more important of my life, that are those letters. Is what what have marked my

41 years, really, since that I've done so that I'm using so that's what I'm

going to happen and tell what I'm going to see these are really the people, not is that connect with the wherrow, but connect with this story,

that even you know-you-know-me-connoces, but connectar you'd with this story because, at the moment, I'm saying, I'm going to be this, no? And if a post of minute and a minute and a minute and a minute to connecter to,

for me, was the story, to someone, he could function to. And for that's it. And for that's it so super-viral? If it's super-viral. And yeah, I'm, I'm

still, I'm describing the book. Yeah, I'm going. Yeah, I'm just. based on those letters. 100%. It's a biographia per se, but it's my point of of view the life

and a little what you with your podcast, no? That's, for nothing, I'm going to focus on the part marigist or in the

the dolor that I'm going to tell to you know, to tell you to you know, and how I'm in this point of my life?

And right, in this point of my life, me feel a person very bendicida and grateful with what I think.

Because, as you you put in that lettererito not we're not we're what we

know what we not we know what we know what we that's that is one of the lessons

of the same year from the budism the Taoism so that so that comes

from many of years but it is perfectly valid today what we

what we don't we don't know we're not we we're not

and care to have been that I had passed much until you

that I'm that's that's there's there's things that I'm

can't control the things the the same the things, the

things not are in my control the those things that one

no no I'm define but I'm I'm I'm

going to endclado to that and so and so I'm many

years Marko many many with with with with

the sadas that was that that was that I've resented and with

those crises until my 35, 37 years me relationship that's the manned that never

maduro, that never saned, until I know a relation, another, an job

not was a little not a other work, another there's a thing, and it's a lot of

not going to change what is over and I'm to control what is there there, I'm going to

do you know, I'm able to do you know that I'm that's that's a good news.

When you know that the constant, that you're you, because then you have the solution or you have the

possibility to work in you. Because if you see you're you know, the problem is what is what's what's the

what I'm, what I don't, I'm, I don't, I'm, I don't know that you'd be that you'd know that's that's quite

that's a clear, that's a world, as a world, is a how is a how is your

world interior. If something you don't do you If you like, if you think that's a world of injustice, if there's a

people who's very good, and very bondadosa. Where do you go to focus? If something not you're not you're going to

try to make it and then you see that you know, where you start to start to flowerer, those seeds of what you want to

see more more than the way, like the lens of a camera, here I'm going to be able to and it's

more great and there can't take the photo. And I can't ignore the another that

exists also, but not I'm doing the focus. The world is. But the world you is very

different to the world of the world of each one of these people, where you focus is what you're going to

you know, it's perfectly normal that when you a infancy difficult and when you to talk,

like you to take a decision that difficult, a decision legal and a decision

against a different when you only, it's valid, it's valid, you know, but is that enoged.

Resentied. Resentied. I don't know if it was at the first. The things that were passed not was

not really that I'm saying that if they resignifico, they're just they're just and they're not it.

And that and that's a and that I'm going to transforming in other thing. Exactly.

And I want to I'm that I'm that I decided to the four years because

I grew with that history all my life that I had decided. And

There's someone in that post that there's that there's a lot of people. That's a way to do you will decide. And I'm

put to think, I'm thinking, I'm the story that I'm told him to talk. How a kid? I'm not

I'm a lawyer. I know the story with that I've grown my life. So the four years

to give us to give us. They're to douching to get to a court. I'm I'm a

question, I'm a question. I'm going to live with my dad. So, they're

they're that you said, that's the story I've got to my life.

But you can't? At the four years you're super little bit of the four years. You know, but I don't know if he's, he's,

don't know if a legally, a judge could decide with who can't get with the mom, I don't know

if he's not if you know what you remember is that you, you put you in the difficult postura

to say with who my mom, in a in a judge. And that I decided with my papa.

That is the story that I have been carrying in my mind in my mind all the life.

And that dole it. Well, it's what has done it has done it has done the

life. The separation. And there are all the carences and all the chakrises and all the

crises that have after the first reflect in all my relations. It's the second

that I'm the second I'm found that I repeat many many patrons that the

things that that was that was that I'm in my matrimonio anterior and was simply

the fear of being with with me always. always is fear.

In the way to have faith and have a hope of a future and then you know about it's

going to be going to be going to be the worst. It's not not say to not you know, but to say

to a little to decide to you get with mom or you get with a

you is a is a a pervert because the decision the that you

to be to be going to get to you're what you did you what you

did you during many years and he doled you know, he was done, I know,

so, no, noctue to the one of the my mom biologica, my mom

wera, that in past and I didn't know, I'm that I'm that I'm

always, I've got to the time, and the version that I asked my my

mom, that's why I decided to get me with my pap, and the

version of my my dad, why I decided to keep to

one, none of one of both me was a one reason as specific

or clear until I did the pastes with that's, it's, it's, why I'm

I'm a little because. I'm so I'm and I'm really good records with

my papa. So, no, I know if really I took the decision or was

the history that they were the story that I'm with my father. So,

no me to be to be to be we never we never we're about our life at the

four years, three, four years. I have two so you're going to your papa. And what your time?

And what do you do you know, and the man very a man very so much more so I'm a my mom

biologica. No, I'd call with my father, but my papa was a very much

so I'm can't be hours, talking to this. You know, so tell us about us about us

apart we're to learn the little bit I'm going to get a but also is that I clavent because I

want to focus in this is what he's the what I'm in the transformation. Exactly. And that's the same focus of this

program. 100%. But it's divorced my my father's from the four to the mom

biologic, the mom wuerra. In that period, a tia, that is my angelito, my mom,

Gloria, she kept a viewda, that's a brother of my papa. So, the armano

divorceded, trista, and deprimed. The armana, biuda, Triste, deprimed, and disconsolated,

they're going to live together. So, from the four to the mother, I'm going to

my mom, but is my tia. Okay. And I'm here. My father fungio, my dad,

my dad, then they're not a hard, because they were in the men, but for me

was my mom. So, so, he came to cover this figure of the part

materna that I needed. And of the four to the seven was the the

recalls of infancy felices that I'm my father my father to be a very little

really to be my mom Gloria. Uh-huh. To the seven to my father my father's

my mom Gloria's and he and I'm going to go to because your father's

and I'm with you momie? No, your papa no your don't know

that's to get to with your mom you're doing to the time? To the

the day. At the the first the the way my In fact, it's the only that I'm the only that I'm

my mom. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, I'm going to, I'm a, I'm a

mother. I don't know. So, I'm another way with a mom. My mom biologic, that's my

reality, that's the reality that was, because there a mom that's a very happy, at the

time, to go to the house, I'm, to my father, and I'm back,

all the day and me grew my madastra. And, and at the seven, to the

one, is the at a step more infelis of my life. Because I have this

cicatrice always to my mom you're not my mom. I'm very really I'm really

I'm a man who's my father. I'm very very realtor but now I'm really what the

little I'm saying ohgan abraces me I need I need I need I need

I need I'm my dad where my mom and for all I'm bad choo

the world of red chute the word of the first I'm for the the cigar for

first. Drugs, not that was after the 7 at the 11 was the

time where the most the first so I'm that's that's that I

know that's today. Today, you know, when when it when we

do it, when we don't have really young or not we've received therapy, is we

have to we're to get the color, and a way, and that this rebel

and that mal character could be just a form of adormecern for not to feel the

pain. Well, it's a way unmadura of express the and the

need to, but not you say, you say, Kierem. No. No, but you're so

10%. 10. What you can't you? And so, and so, and I'm,

I think is the time where most records I think it made a 20 years,

largeissimo. And really really not so it were four years of my life.

But I passed so much and emotionallyly was so Duro that was

what was what marked my character So is a time a time

a time that you remember you know that's a yeah yeah

it's and then there's many things that after after

after I was very very very very very very

very stress so a year a so a year I'm

I think is something I was what was

doing is what was was looking that's love. And you quit their

and your mom how one you're going to two times. Two times exactly. Two years. Two years.

How one you're going to be to be able to do you get to do that's the same years.

And now I know I'm I'm a my papa I had I'm a more, but not was

too, but he's a very much he's not he was the only person that for me was the

person that me wanted that I'm that I was not was not too. So really

really I mean, I'm created by my madrastra, that's a when I'm a when my dad has a child

with a child of seven, all rebel, so also also I'm the postura of them, I'm put in

their zapata, and I'm to do it with a wherito like I, it was a little bit of the

whole of them did it's what they're with the things that they were with the time.

Exactly. Now, in your video, one of the parts most impactant is this carton when you

that at the seven years received a abuse? Yes, it was these seven to the 11th that I said, I'm, for the first

I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was there were so, then I was

with, that I'm never good, nothing, uh, amisteds more grandes than I. And for

perteness, I, in some moment, I did something, I had to do things that was that was

that I was saying, but I know that not was that I didn't, because it was an

abuse. But in that moment, and no you know, no you what's this? What, what is this? It was rarestim. And me lo caged. After therapy. All the 30 and a lot of times. I'm not and like you said, I'm very vulnerable and the truth, it's free

and the people that are saying culling things of abuse, because I know I'm the only man, when you're able to talk to those monsters that you're carrying, they disappear. And repitone, No, is that when it's

that's the not, it's that it's not it's not it's it's not, but

what I can't I'm in this. One, if I'm a portable and I'm

a person to say, man, no you calles nothing that dole because

it's to be cancer. Abelal no, no doesn't nothing.

Nobody to be to judge. Nobody to be the first when you're

when you when you pass for the abus, the first that

came to your mind is, it's my fault or

something. Or, it's not going to be not a not. Or,

if they're to not to be a question that

is a thing. Because the first you don't feel

and it's really, but you know, but you know, you know,

it's a conflict internal very very very. I

had the was a but I'm but no I didn't what part that's

a lot. I'm and I'm and I'm saying, no, you know, you're going

to be able to you're going to you're going to the people with the people that you my friends my friends,

I'm convivier with them. So in a group, so that persistio not was an abuse.

It was it was a group that now they were not an habitual. No,

I didn't enter in details, no. But, but it was people more grand

because. Yeah, yeah, yeah, The people more and I was more great. And I was

when I came to come perfectly clear when I came to my court then the first and I'm at this is true

and it's really. This is right. This is bad. And it's really. And physically, it would be

and it and emotionally not was what was going. And you felt like I've felt like me

have been done a lot. I've done when you when you when you're something that's

something that is a grab for your father or something. And not you said. And no,

I'm going to I'm very very much. I'm very very much I'm sent out to get to talk to get to

this. This is a secreto to do you. And when you got to a therapy, sentista a rest of

a I'm a little bit of but not that's just that's what's what's

letererer or this post the people got to clavent and the whole my infancy

there were things that were more than that is part of my story. But for me it was like

that I was like going to a lot of different times, and different pieces. And I was going,

I'm going, and I'm saying, a bit of this not this is not going to nobody is abusing of me.

Nobody is me is going to be saying this. Nobody me is doing this. Nobody me is doing this.

No, I'm doing this. And it was going to let me let me so it's, I think the

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2,026. And now continue we on the podcast. So, at the 11 years you re-enquented with your

mom biologic. At the 11 years. After that they're after the second

time, you know, you're that in the moment not your mom and you're going

to be to be with her. And that's how it's, just what did you

not my mom for me. For me, I was a extrana. And I was a extra-you- were a

extra-to-your- to be in the first to the first, two years just a more and we're not much,

and not a relation that's a thing, he was a lot of a lot of she, she, she was,

she castes, and she said, and she said, my brother, and he went to, obviously no me

he said, that's my perception, no functioned his matrimonial and he said, you want to come to be

to come to imagineate, for me that's, I'm, that's the reality. I was with my dad and no

go to my father, what I'm here? So, it's my mom biologic, you want to come to be

to me to me to be to my mom, I'm going to be to my mom my mom my papa was very

immodue emotionally me makes he, like you think you have been no,

I'm I'm he left for months. And even I'm I'm free. The one

to the 11 to the one of the first to my mom and a terrible our relationship.

Terrible. To not do you the long, to the 13 to go to

to work to the Tijuana. And I don't to go to my dad.

I don't to be a little to be to her to until the 17. So,

of the 13 I'm with a Tia, then other Tia, then another Tia,

then another Tia, then I'm a back to my dad, but I'm three, 14, rebel, that never,

yeah, I go probing things raras, no dure much, I went with another tia, with other tia,

and until the 17 I regressed with my mom, six months, because then after there was the opportunity

to be in Mexico, and me came. Wow, so there was no, no, no,

from the four years, until the year, after you're going to a other, you know,

no, no, no, no, no, you know, no, you know,

a family normal, you know, a a, a, a A place.

Never a place. Never took a and that's always never was my anel. And that's a not a house, because a house was too a lot of time.

I was just 17 houses, the other day, that's talking, I was talking to, after my matrimonial and that's, you know, you can't can't be, can't be, you, can't You can't feel peace. You can't feel you. And you've been to be a lot of

therapy, I'm imagine. I've been, I'm going, go and I'm. But how you've affected? So, when one has, because when one has,

one, you know, when one gives, one gives, to have to have to have certain retos, with those that one has to learn

to live for the rest of the life, to manage, to manage, to, what was the, what, what was the,

what was the positive, although there's no, the positive, but what those are the ones

ventas that you that's having to have lived all this before

I'm going I'm very very son a man I'm and I think a me what I'm

want to live and with the that some that some that's going to

be better is thinking in the future. I think that I think that I'm

now right I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm that I'm a year

more a year more may may be better I'm I knew.

And my future and the life that I'm living, I was I'm going to and in all the aspects. And that was

what I maintained, I was living, and with the energy of a day more. Always, soya,

always, soya, always, I'm, I think, that's a same, I'm doing,

I'm doing what I'm doing, I'm doing, but I'm I'm going to because I'm going to be able to cause a much anxiety. I was, I was, I'm anxious. All my life. I was, for so I'm addicted. For anxiety. For calmar me anxiety. Because I was trying to

imagine me, a future, peor, of my present, I said, no can't be able to be more. I. I mean, many years, 30-tant-and-a-tant-a-half-a-old. not can be better. He has to put it better. And he has to put to put better,

I think was what he's the four years to the year. And I'm thinking that my life will be

better every day. And I'm never to all the days and me I'm very and I'm

so that never me passed. Yeah. Your career in the actuation starts

at the 18 years more than? I've been to study at the 17 but let us

let us my first Sualdo, as a single commercial, was the 18. But the theme of the abuse of substances, the seguirte in them,

trying to not to not send, escape, as you said, as your presente that dolea much, that continued. Before the 18

I was, I proved, I think, I think, I was, I was a part of, always,

in my life, for perteness. I think in my life, it marked much, it influenced most,

the person with the people with that's that the Fech. You're the Reflego

of the person with the you're the thing. I'm just my

circle not the appropriate to make a way in general. And when I'm

when I first first I think it before to get to get a Mexico.

But yeah standing back was that was this is addiction.

So, well, I was I'm I'm not it. So, it was

it was for pertensens that has all the logic.

No, never you felt you had a family stable, no, to a

place to a place to be in things that's you're doing, you'd have in the sensation of the

person to be being, be accepted, being accepted, be accepted, so I'm to do you, I'm a

family. I'm a clan, a tribe, a tribe, a tribe, I'm a community. I think, a community.

So, there was when I was really with my process of substances, but when I came and

that I did, oh, this now a addiction and it was a

adult, 20-tantos almost, almost the 30s. Yeah, you had you had

you had the first no. No. So, the moment in the moment that

you talked in to talk about to the stuff, was when I was,

when I started economically and started to be to be to be

to be to be to be you and you have more then you

and I didn't clear that I'm to keep to be

to be my I mean, that that's the force, that drive, that said, I'm going to do, I'm going to do do this

dream of reality, even to be all the past, me all the way, what was the motor that was, it was a dolor, what you know,

I'm going to do you're doing. It's been. And what I'm clearissimo, and for that right, right, I know,

so I'm clear with the talent. For me, the talent, to do you do it, it's a gift. I don't, I don't decide,

I want to want to have this talent to interpretar. I'm very good. That's the real. It's the real. It's the idea.

It's the idea. It's the question. The decision of the actor I know where is there is a lot of

my carencers. I think I think I'm going to make click. If it's a kid, if it's a little life not

seen, what you do you do? A reflector. Me are being. Imagineate when you

when you're famous and they're the maximum and they're the Pagan. And you I'm going to

because I started doing extra. I started doing commercials and I'm doing commerciales and the commerciales

extra I did people people of people people who the principal I did the opportunity

I did my productora I did cinema I was I'm going to nobody but I'm

but he's very can't and this need me this man me saying bean me want them

recognize me because I'm don't me abandoning I'm at allgo I'm I'm I'm gonna

I'm the keyed the valor to work with my person to the character

to the career, to the the exit that I thought because my my

success my concept of success but when I did I'm

when I did I'm I I'm that I'm that

I was so empercined in to make my dreams because I say when

I'm used so all those those those people that were that were that were they were

they're they're they're they're to be a bit to be a

don't to make that the other person he was that I'm more

more more more reconeration when you when you you

you're you know that the people is trying to to survive they're trying to

this. So, so I'm so much the thing that's this is so never really, but much

time I'm think that's this calvary called a called Vida. I'm I'm trying to and I'm

clearissimo and I'm doing my projects but I think I'm doing the same to you.

There's there's a purpose there's just just to do just to do you and it's

and it's well- but it's a purpose to do do it to do do it.

If I I'm more famous, I'm good, no me quitted the and I'm

going to get the time, but I'm going to use it. I'm not to use my platform, I know what

is the purpose. And, and I'm, appraudam. Bean that value the pay.

Behan, what chinkon I'm so. For that I'm to be to be a matter,

and imagine that I have done a time. Uh, I'd be very infelis.

And, surely had had done more things. I but is very

can'ts it's very very can't but this is very understandable because you're about

you're talking of a person of a man who was a person who was made

that he's that he was used that he didn't that pertenecy it's normal it's

human to have that's human that that's a person who look at me

me applauded me accepten me here this I'm here I'm

in therapy I'm I'm I think I know that I've learned to dialogue with your little. There was all.

There was all, I mean, so, so, what did you do you know, what you do you say

today? Because still I'm in the because I'm to start. And I was very

very hard with that man. And what you do you say is hey, no,

what you did you or what you did you did at final,

not is justifiable. No, I'm going to keep the weight of the but you're

you're about. I'm and what I said at the principle, we're

going to be a we're going. And if has done, wherito, all what

you have you've not you would be to be going to but to be

past. No to do that things more grand, but

without destroy and what you're doing all the that's that's not that's

a man, in the other than that's a victim and that you're and that

you're all the thing, that's the person, that's a person who makes in this world.

It's is I'm in that I'm, here I'm here I'm and so I'm you know

to do your proper father, your proper mom, your own center a master

a friend, um, this therapist coach, protector. Yes,

until that I started to have a relation with God. Okay.

A me the faith me changed for complete of my manner

of thinking, my manner of my way to be to be

just exactly I can say even I'm a grand dad

a grand a heart, I can say that many things of in those in those that

I'm in the I'm never, I don't have an example of how do it. No,

of my people and I'm not, but the having a relation, not create,

because it's a different, the to have a relation with God me has changed for

completely the way in how relationship as a father, as a person,

as a human, as a professional in all the aspects. The moment that you

took to the final of the chapter. Yeah, me for the end of the part of. I'm not. No, no, no. It's a... in that video,

says, in my 30 toque a fund and I'm my life. That was the moment

in the way, so you're so, you're because it was before? Or in

what you appear? Yeah, I was, I was guquetting, yeah, I've propped

of all, I've had approved, I've had been, all, all, put me in the

table, and I've put me to find me the idea to find me the purpose to do

here, All. Tinto as a psychedilical as a a good is a a buskedom.

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to Mexico and when when it I was I felt that I'm going to get to and I

know what are your dreams or your expectations but the mine those

I'm and I'm passed you you're you they're

you and you said valiose mission incumplied, but that's not

the bad no, and the worst is that I'm still in the thing I'm made a, disque,

proposed, but I felt like I'm didn't even I'm accepted, and I feltial and there

was my busk to say, wait a wait a a lot of going to go to

here, I'm going to like 22 in this career and log my dream, and

I'm I did a time, I'm wait a wait a I'm I'm

to be I'm a mom If I'm propong an Oscar, me will go to I know. I know when. And I know what

I'm at what I'm at the I'm doing a meta, it was a because if you have a background, I had a proof of that

if I had a problem, I'm going to then I'm that's still. But if this has been a very destructive, but not even

but interiorly me sentia I'm a how I'm what Jim Carrey says, do you? You know?

that Jim Carrey I said that he would be a gooder that he would have a fact that they

were in mind that's not the solution. Well, no, I've seen for the man.

I mean, I'm invited a little bit of a little a little bit of a lot of and I did a

question that I've said, but one of that's what you're saying, because it was for

because it and where the majority of the chavos putting their concept of success compared

in the money, money, prestige, Influenza, likes. I said, Chavos, I'm from there.

No, I'm saying that's not. If you get, abrasal it. Utilizer it as a lot of your purpose. But not you

because when I get, you're going to get a bit more to come because you have passed years,

because you're going to be because you're to get you you know I'm sure that you what is your

what is your purpose and why is you, you're you're going to feel than you're right.

Bette for this way. That I'm going to go and I'm going to see me to me, buska the

but there a purpose with all this that's a consequence. And I did a time.

It's that when you know you don't you know, your mind is your mind is a overhivir.

You're you're not you're going to do, how I'm going to do you go to get the

fortune and then you you have to survive because you have to sober and then when

you're going to start to say, I'm the now that it's the now that it's like

I'm going to get to get to get to you know, and you know, you know, you know, you know,

and you can dole even more because you don't have the mind occupied in and I think a much

us pass, or a me me and a many people and a much and it to get to

to the mountain. It's a day I'm going to get, yeah when you're

you're in the time, you have you know that there's other mountain

more more but it's the fear of one of if I go to get to

the other mountain and then this mountainita in the I'm and I'm

there and keep to keep maintaining that that's that the people

that's those cheques that you do those those contracts I

think that costs more and after you don't you

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to get but imagine to create something to be able to do you know is what you have to give

a lot of that's not what to do do you it's are instants and you

you're you're getting something that's imagine to live so I'm think

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that is more more impicada but yeah that's here I'm to keep this

and the the people they're the they're going to get the the jury

and enter other is that this is what is what is what is what popular

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we're going to podcast. Yvans us the moment, the moment of the, of the crisis and the

renacer, of the solter, to reinventart when you when you say, what's

what's the what's what you do? Much authors and coaches marvellous

say that a for some people the the the

the is the great master and they're in the moment what was

what was the what was the process to to

look to look to look for those for

those know that know I know I did

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took a long and I came because I

two so clear, the being actor and being someone and is a

person, and I'm doing, I'm I'm sure, I'm sure, so I'm the pedd, then it's the

pedd, so it's the pedd of the family. Uh-huh. So, me, I'm going to get to

the family, and to build the family. And I'm, I'm, Mark, so, and

he's, and he's going to work, but internally, yeah, all over to be a family.

So, then I'm a new two months, I'm I'm going to be I was a vestido

of nobio, you know, and I'm and I'm he had the thing he's a yeah, the house,

the house, the other other way, you know, you've been another way, but I'm case with a person,

that's a new more, or more, no more, oh-o. Distinted. Distincto. His concept

of family is distinct to my. So, his education is distinct to the mine,

his values, are different to the views, the family conjunta with the professional was

opposite to the I had to we We're not a decision of the two Because I'm not the For I'm not the only I'm not the fit

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This is a hogar This is a hogar The life not is fast Marko The idea not is easy But imagineate Salir to To start the life

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of the optimists. I'm positive. I'm so. I'm going to think. I'm going to think. I'm going to

be a future to be a success or a so I'm don't know. Me, I'm explain, I decide to say

positive. But the life, that that's not that's not that has a that's a carer like this.

And more in a career like and more in the the dreams that I'm the ambitions that I'm going to be

my life. That's the real. But I'm good at the rest of the and then when I've

got got to all this we've got to we're going to separate us because you are you are going to

be infelis or you want to be your concept of family is I'm to go to give

to my concept of family and I think it not just not for you and

for me Marko was the separation more better than my divorce or

that's our matrimon or we're we're a decision very maduramently and the prendence

amarigist the wherro in depression the wherrow has become a fanatic Christian I said

I don't know but it's a process and in part they're reason because

I'm really because I don't know I'm so I'm then I'm I'm

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find out of, yeah, I'm going to because many things, I'm going to get to find out of a relation. And there's a

process of to say, I've heard I've heard that I've heard of that I've been there to be there,

to an church that had had been emotionally a connection, but if me, recant of what has been my

and you are real? Well, no I think existes. And I want to

talk to you. Yeah, no I want to live. If you really

really me put this life, explain me for what? Because I did I did not

to be born and I don't want to live. And in this at the seven to

the I've had tried to suicide to me

to and in that crisis that I had my 30-tant-tant-tons,

another once. Passed the and I felt exactly the little the the new,

in that co-cina and I'm reconnected, boom. I did a link. The wherito, I think

I'd have about eight years, to the wheroerer, the he's over that's just

that's a crisis, that night, that night, you're, you're, I'm, you're,

I'm, I'm, never, I'll grab a Bible that we have been in the

wedding. We've got a ceremony like spiritual and we've given us but also a Bible,

and also a baby was a beautiful. It was was a was a black,

that was a good man, was a little and was a black with letters dorated.

And I don't know clear the passage, but I was something that said that are

in context that not they're not to know, damn your cargars. Labriste by you

looking a response? About you, if it's real, manifestate, because this is your

book, no? If this is a grader. Tal qual, I'm being rebel, that's always I've been

to, I'm quite the life. Muster me me something. Dime something.

Dime. Dime. I'm, tell me about. And so, and so it La Jiae,

p, I'm that that's that's that's Matthew, it's

a kind of emotional, to say, waitate, no I'm about the

yugo, give me your chugas, Yugo no knows that was a

object where the buelles can't those can't be balanced in the

agriculture do, and the car no not be a piece, compartment it

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morning. No, it was a little bit so I'm not, no, no, no. No,

no, no. You said, and that rose? Exactly. Sentil the airicito and,

and it did the light, no, no, no. What is I remember is that I went to

just to do just, well, then more. A day more. A day more. We're

to pass a You just, no quits' No, you know to quit your life, but a day more.

A bit more. A- see, there's a little to have a question. I've tried to

all. What more is going? We're to believe to this librito and we

going to give us a time to a God that you have heard of many many

many times but I not connected in the absolute with his enseances because

not connected with the people that me They were that's

very distinct And what what was to me is I'm in middle all my all my

all the people that were in the people and I'm in the relationship and a connection

of if you is real where you is real for what you're real what you do you're real?

What are you real? Why? You're able a relation and a conversation that has

been a whole life. And has been of the days. and today for

you've asked you've been you've been your only master, I've been the master I'm the

I'm the master and as I don't understand the life I'm I'm how you

how I'm how I know how I I'm I'm to me myself

and the I'm how I'm my finances how how I how I'm

how I'm how I how I'm so I that is the that I'm

here with a purpose with a point, with a question, and I

think I do I'm what I'm doing it. No, I justified and I resignified.

And has served for supposed because only I would I would

put to the service of someone there. And I did, I'm a message.

Yes. And you know, and you know, I thought that could have that

could have to be that you know, you know, you know, you know, you know depends on the

applause, that no depends on that you're a platform to do work, that you know,

that you don't dependes of a like, but you know, but you know, that's

that's faith. And so is how I'm that's how I'm much of transform the

venero in medicine. It's like part essential of the, of the

Buddhism. that did that's because what is, is and no you can't change the

past, but resignific Niche, what you know what you're more exactly. All the philosophies are the same

are the same exactly, exactly to that that election. Or so, today you can't be sanar those

dolors? They're the aridas but are the car I can't see that they're

not disappear but you don't stand and they they're not they're they're saying,

there. There's but you don't dole because it's like a little bit of a no,

if you know, the limpia's a profundity, it's a profound it's a thing when it's a chas because you're

to get a and you're going to get a a chakritriss there's, but you know those I don't know

as I'm like a bigtimore I'm, I'm like medias to honor

to that to say here you're and what for so I said what's I'm like but it's

different in my manner to start yeah is different in my manner to be any way

the life in general and not I don't I'm I'm a heroical simply

in the other to be that I'm so I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm you're we're going we're

we're we're we're a thing very very delicate in the transformation personal

to the nobody you can get to get to get there to get to the work

of the transformation, of the acceptance, of the pardon, of the sort of

the court, and with the other, where you can't you, to start

to appreciate what you don't you know, because finally you don't be who

if you had a other history. So obviously to nobody us would have liked a

to have been got a lot of my father did not even my father were alcoholic and my mom I mean it

not you don't know if if one could ever to change the past you'd you'd

you'd you'd you know that you'd have gotten you've you know

you if you're if you're having these things too such hard

so not sure I'm I'm I'm and at same time that

not I'm going to I'm a good if I'm a lot of and it

would be if that that you would have been a so you don't know you know

you're you're to get even a gratitude I'm so I'm 100%

you've put this this I'm this if the gymas if the gymasio

the bootcamp for the to come back to come to me in

this connection with my if that was the war for the that I had to be a lot of the

I'm not, I don't know I'm glad you're getting to the yeah, and that's a question,

that's very delicate, it's very, I've got to my papa and those the last the last

last few it was, it's, it's, but the last few times that took

like just about that just I'm saying, and I'm, and I'm sorry, Mark, because

no I had been thought, but this that you're saying me's saying, I'm out of the

instinct of the heart of the I'm and I'm and I'm really about because I'm

saying, a poe not you've never you have you've had been to choose another

father, not you've got to another life, I'm I'm there's

my papa, and we don't know that me said that me would say that I'm that the

last time and it was the and he he's pat, bette and tranquil.

Marco, no I meant for that he said with the heart. Because I

said, I said, I'm not canberia my story Papa. No, I'd

comeer like as a like I'm what you did or what you

did or what no to do what I did not because without that would

not be where and not is to the thing, is to

thank what the thing is the of me. And this resilience that I have now that's I don't

I'm not I'm what happened. No, I don't I'm doing. It's distinct. I'm grateful. Thanks to that event that not was in my control. The lessons. The lections. Agradees what

you're what you're and you're who you're and what you can't understand. Because, of the suffering is horrible and no so we do we want to our life. but if you do the capacity

to understand, to feel empathy for someone more that's going to be something like, and that's a gift of

about about that's a very, very great. Deja God a God to do you know,

in what you can't, in what you can't, and not is for that the people go to no, no,

no, no, but if you're not the but they're not going to get, but you're not you're

you're, no, you're, of them. Yes. The problems you're going to get.

But in what you can convert, yeah when they're getting, that's your decision. You're

you're going to you're going to you're going to you know, that the day that it's, it's going to

and it and it and it will be going to be there, or you're to be able to

you're to be your decision because when you're when you you're and

when you get to and more more fern more further It's that you're going to

You know, it's that you're going to You're going to You know, you You know, and that's with your history, that's with your life Salte

to your place of your life and and use what you're going to build a something, not favorable,

something that you can't put a service with that that's a decision. That's is a position.

That's a question of a position of and then. It's a is that you can't because you know,

this is, ah, this is, this is a this way to the other that's, no I'm to get me

there. And if you can't avoid the torments. If one no, not learn

of the errors. Because it was a master. If you're a master, if you put you

to study, because you did you just to study, no, because it's error, no,

and you don't know, and why me enganchee I was in the class the class

that all the well, in what moment what was I'm thinking when

I decided that. When you know the responses to so, then you know, you're going to you know,

and at the more you're going to not in the same. If you understand what your error, you're doing,

you know, but always there's a new new. Newer? But not you're not to repeat.

No, repit the same, there's a new, for the and then you go,

you're going to get to experience. It's a new, that's a curriculum. Me

going to get this new new course. And there the price of to learn. A lot of

it's not to be soffirm. But a lot of very suffering. Now, I'm going to something I've lived.

It's when you're a person public and you decide to start to start to talk of your moments

vulnerable inevitably. The industry of the Chism and who lives of the Marivism

is going to take to context what you do you and he was a line of an

interview, of a podcast, of a course, of a conference, of a talk about you

do you do the intention to show to show to inspire to say, look,

if the guero could, then I can, but I inevitably can't go,

it's in the hands, in the hands incorrect. And, and

are some few, so back, socious. You have lived?

Yes. In this at this at a time. I've never been super

abjointed with my faith, with my past, with all this. It's a

new for me. And, I don't say, the fact, it's

really, and obviously if I have seen that when there's a event or

or something to go to go to the interview, I know that's

where you know passes with that Mark, thinking and putting me empathy, putting me

the zapat of that person. It's your work. Of that's a lot marillie and you know,

and then you're thinking that with that's their family. So, they're not not bad.

I'm for what I'm to be to be? For what me I'm presto?

All has a problem. If I came here and I tell my my experience

is because I'm what you are doing and say what is your purpose

and you're final, what you do is that's that's a idea of the story of the

world and that they can't, I'm going to you know, I'm going to the one of the one thing to the one thing.

Not with all the but what's that's a satisfaction to be able to live so. And that

you can't put to put to put in a service of another or other way. Yeah, I don't

me per with the the press too. No. There's there's it was a

no, but of that they're to do it. But if do it. It's that they take

a thing that you parted and you were able to with a proposite and that they

it's like when you talk to you do it and then in a pleit to do you and then you get,

yeah, no, I don't do you know I told me. You know, it's to do you

see, look, this is what what's, wait, wait, hey, hey,

and so, so, so, so, so it's so it's so it's very

into the but also that's that's that's that's if it's part of, a reason is part of the

price of the price that we're going to not to count nothing. I think I'm doing a little those passes and I'm trying to

and applauded it. Thank you. That's a way more, more, more, more experience. You're more

old than you. No, and you, you're, you're, you're going to do you're to do you

and the public that connect to you, because not the new that will connect with a program of chismes.

No. No, You don't want to the people that connect them to a program of chismes. And if you see, here is

a good you're going to do that amarygism, but you have to be the congruent with what you do you, with what you

do you, with what you're doing, with what you know, and we know that we're more than yesterday, that we've got to all the things that

you've been I respect, that, of the actually, then we're we're doing, and that's, and that's,

and that's, and that's, and that's are they're because they're going to

get to the victim and start the life that's a lot of the time. So,

but they're they're the life they're the what they're what they're and what they do you know.

It's decision. And I'm creating this community where I'm like a producer, the books

that I love to learn, the people that people that are to consume this type podcast.

Hey, if there amaryism, if exist in the platforms that they're to do

other other type of other type of you like you, that they want to consume

other other thing and that they're in a little to be in a time to have in

a little of a movie or a movie or a movie, inviute it. It could be a series, or you can be

a book club or it can be it's a podcast and we're not we're talking to us and we're

we're talking and we're we're doing so I'm to be able to consume and that is what I

have done my story. If no I, if no I'll the opportunity, I'm a

consign. And I'm creating that's a community that that's to consume products and projects like

to you and like me, that are the you're doing your family. Tal-what. I'm a community,

but it's to the family. It's my community. So in this moment of your

life, you know, you know, you know, you're the peace in the house in the house.

No, no. I'm perfected. No, never had been perfect. Nothing is perfect.

But you have peace. 80% of the time we have peace. Ah, no. Paz, I'm still in the pleitos. Pace is to see that you're in the

place in the place correct. Sentire internally that a despite of the conflict the discussion that we can't have a

natural, we have my mother and I the same that's always. You're in your You're in

your and you and God and the and the And for you, that's basic. It's basic. My woman is divorced.

And to have the same faith unifies our vision, you know, unific it's our plans, our mission as a person, she has a

purpose personal, but we have a purpose as a family, and I think that having the same faith unifies much the backgrounds.

See? Convivir with your brothers, that have the same the same education, is a pedd

then to put a agree with them. Now imagine to one person that's of your family.

My wife is rusa. It's a not a Spanish. And I'm not when I was not even English. I don't know like that.

I don't know in English and yeah no way to be in Spanish. At the more that was the magic. I think.

I think. No, you can't get in many. I think. Yeah, because then at the principle

when we have to put us to agree with something to come to be to be

I'm cost. I still When I get it's agitans the water in Russo. Because that's the day you're going to know you're going. Ah, that's universal. Yes, mommy. Yes, ma'am.

Oh, yeah, you know, you're a little. We're not a little. Now, yeah, it's a day-in-law-law. How many? How many, you're little? A-year-old. I'm, I'm little. Yeah, year-in-minute.

How's it? Leo. Leo. Tell us to Leo and what is the life and what is the

context of your transformation and your life. Leo is the promise of God. My

is the promise of God confie in me the I'm the I'm the I'm what you see what

you see what I'm was a negotiation that's with God my my

my wife I we don't have we have been it's has been

one after after after I have a son, a beautiful, and he

is a not for that's a but that's like it and he and he and when

I do do of my faith, when I do do of God I see my

my my because to get to get to this home

and that he was he was he and that he and

he and in this home we are this is

repitient the story but from you know the the errors

you know what you did you know what you did you know what you know you can't

I think to do you did it my mother when it was in Dallas Leo

when we went to the hospital to the house that I'm

and he said Rosa she called my my wife

what you you have just To give to Leo, the family that never I've never, of the father that always an elegeten, is God. It's God.

Me laudeau. No, I did. But you've got to pass for all this, to get to this point, do it. Exit. That's to make, that's an exit. Paz.

That's to have peace. That's Leo. Leo is my recordatory of that the promises of God are real. Uff! That's great. What,

when you give to Leo love, and you give what you don't have liked to have and this second world, second opportunity,

this reconciliation with all, this principle and the bookle, I know, no, no,

no, exists the principle of the fin, in the real. You know, you know

your inner is sanando at the love to Leo, justantly? Sientes something

something to get a level more more than what you have sanated? It's that God,

but I don't see if that's a same, identical to me. I know and I'm I'm so I'm

so I'm so I try to Leo as I've liked that I try to

me. I'm there's no way that not me go to the house,

that he and that he'd say he says, I'm, Leo, Papa, you know,

that never he'll never see. If I'm not I'm that you know that

you know, that you know, that's the thing more important in his life.

I'll do you do this because the guarito never he's never

never. And I try to I'm I'm a chinko Mark you know,

when you know, when you know, you much more I'm a job.

Trap to be a present. Because I don't have a father present. And the

things good that's my my father with me I'm doing. But I

see a Leo and I think physically I'm I'm I'm remonted

to the whelito. And if I'm my new interior I've had

done. I've done that part to have to have to

talk to him, but to blah, mutomently, because there are things that to have to pardon.

But with Leo is, that reconnection of that passing of the wero since that I've used

of reason. And I see a mom. For that I love more to my wife.

I'm, wow, God. Me he's, how to choose. Well,

what you said, one a relation after other, not? Something

something something I'm doing well, no? Something I'm doing and deciding well. I'm going to

decide different. I'm going to do things different. Well, the life that I'm now family,

is a consequence is a consequence of obedience. But many times when the person when the obedience,

they're an religion. No. It's an obedient because me I said to me

myself and to the society to do a cagadero with my life. Today I

see the family that I've been possible. To make those decisions.

Sin to you have been possible to be that that's a father, that's a person

no perfect no perfect but I'm but I'm this way and you're you're in this you know

you're going to get a day to say yeah chingue you know better than it's not

not not going to not it exists but but it but it doesn't

but it is the thing you're you're you're you're you're

you're that's is that's called our community. Today I'm going to be better than I. And tomorrow I'm going to be and so I'm

the more than that premise? And there's and there's better, better, but you're

more rapidly so, no? You know, you're more more rapidly. And more more more than

more so. And also, like the box, you're more more for the cause,

I don't you know, you know, you know, when you when you when you said,

my, my, my, me, me, me, me, me,

me, me, I'm pegast in the because when when you visualized with your child, vending to the

eyes and saying your papa you know, it's a phrase but all what you're you're saying

to him and to you and to the life in that line is your reconciliation is the

is the it's the whole is the circle is the is the sanation

so if I don't I'm the day your father I'm.

If you see the life like a series. I'm I'm several

chapters. But I'm going to exist in the chapter one or two or three so this

four would be a number of the movie. Ah, well,

I'm going to do you. Because at the end of the day is what you want to what you

feel that that's accepted, and start to be able to pertinacies and what beautiful

that you do you do you do you do you to do to give to do you know

what you don't have and the important to get us to get not marco because I

did my dad I'm why never me says I don't I don't I think

I'm to say I you know to me but my father still my father just

my my son he was was a was a a man

was a emotionally he's I'm going to matured much. I think of our parents.

Who's? Who's who were? Who's who? Who were? Who's what I said?

You know, you know, said, when your old was, you know, even I never,

never. And I me came to the 20. So, you're you're just you're reputiening

the patrons of my my abuel? Yeah. So, so when I have a little I'm

to go to go to the house, without I'm, I'm going to let's go to go.

I'm going to go to the way to get to I'm going to get to get I'm going to the patron. My

abel, the ex-a-oel and the father-a- abel, and those who see them. And many

philosophies millenaries spirituals say, no we don't know we can't confirm.

But there are the people we're that when you're you and your

sonas, you and your sonan in that of seven generations. To get, to, and to be

back. No, no, there's scientific, but what little is create it

and to have in the thing, that's what's, what's to be, he's in a

life tranquil, no, we'll have a because then the sanation

has a a, a car much more more more than, what you do you

would be weird, guero, well, I'll I'm, well, I'm,

I'm, he's, So, I'm here. There's a lot. And he did the good he did, with what he

knew what he had, and with he survived. Soverevio. You gave the base for to grow. What would you

would say, you'd say to any girlito to a a person, a woman, a woman, a new,

adult, who is not talking, and that's going to the thing that's going to that's,

like you you were at the 30 years saying, of what is the the way to this? I don't

I've to, to get a thing when it's compone other, I'm so I'm

a top-of- being a word, not I'm not a way I'm to do you, to do you? What?

He'd say, you'd from the person, from your experience, to that person?

Or, to those people? I'd two things. The first that I for so I'm

a little and that's a time a day at a day at a day at

if today let's you know to a let's a minute a bit

a bit in the next minute in the next hour in the day a

day a day a when I my mom my mom he said all the time

and me he said Mark going to see and she he was just a day at the last,

I'm going just going to and my mom my mom I'm trying a chevichito a service to take to

all your my and I'm doing to her doing the yeah yeah to do you

to do you to try them because it's like a bit that's that night that night

that's that night he said I'm I'm sorry well I'm a day

a day a a day at the was the what he said a

day at a way a way I I told you I'm a I'm a day at a

way to be a way to you know like you know, how you do you're but this

episode that I told when I did my reclame with God to say no you

don't you do you see this my and I decide I'm

I'm so okay I'll be chas a day more and

here I'm so I a day at a day at a a day at

a if you I can't understand it, no you preoccupies for tomorrow. Tomorrow

will be your consequences and his problems. It's a day. Today. It's

today. A day. And today what you can't do. That way is that time.

That's the book, that podcast, to get to be the sun. Orvited to

make a bonk. If you you're going to be able to be able. That's one

two, that me did a one an one in the

interview in the podcast I'm I'm yeah and so uh

the portrait the he was I'm in a old

and he said he said but I was I was I'm said

yeah but I know I'm I'm I'm I'm and

when I didn't that this not was a one was

a don't was a not know where he was

going to but I would know that I'm going to be a way to be a little

and for me for me it's like to be because you're in a hole no you

no way but if you think you is a tunnel that that's

that's that's that's because you can't you can't you

don't you know to know to be going to and think that's there's

that you're to get at a torado is is me and

if you think you you know, you're but if you're going to there's a lot of

you're going to get to get the other to get to be that's that's the reason. Decide

to think to decide to decide to the reason. Much of that's, uh, not to

not you, no, but you know, when you know, when you're when you're when you're

therapy, therapy, platics nutritive and here you have a friend,

of my respect. And it's a good to know to get a person to

to be able to get to this conversation. With all of my time, we'll put him a few time. And there's

just to be to get to get that the other other side. Now that I'm sorry. You know

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