El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - 430.- Cómo SOLTAR lo que DUELE: Amor, familia, trabajo, sueños - Gaby Pérez Islas

Episode Date: May 11, 2026

Hay duelos invisibles que aprendemos a vivir en silencio, mientras todos esperan que sigamos como si nada. Divorcios, trabajos que terminan, amistades que cambian, familias que duelen y sueños que no se cumplen también dejan pérdidas difíciles de explicar.  Gaby Pérez Islas, tanatóloga, nos habla sobre cómo soltar sin culpa, cerrar ciclos y dejar de vivir atrapados en una historia que ya terminó. Un episodio para entender los duelos invisibles y sanar lo que todavía pesa. Para soltar, también necesitamos aprender a mirar lo que sí sigue aquí, lo que sí tenemos, lo que sí somos y lo que todavía podemos construir. Y la gratitud es una forma poderosa de regresar al presente. Por eso te invito a vivir 21 Días de Gratitud.👇🏻https://almamatters.com/gratitud *Importante: Nuestros invitados son expertos en sus temas y reflejan su conocimiento y su punto de vista, siendo conscientes de que cada una de las opiniones es totalmente personal. La información, datos, comentarios, estadísticas que se presenten en el Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil, son de exclusiva responsabilidad de quienes las emiten y no representan, necesariamente, el pensamiento de Marco Antonio Regil o de la producción del podcast.

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no need to doleer in life or what you can't be a human the world. The podcast of Marko Antonio Regil is a production of RGEL Entertainment

and all those All in the life we've suffered a part of a perid of a person

care of a period of a money, of our human of our health, of our

role that we have in the really but why we're we're there's

the question because because even we we're we're we're

we're we're that we're we're we're we're we're

we how we're how when the things to be suffering, suffering and suffering.

To talk of this, who's better than our great and admirer, Gavi Perecislas, Gavi, tanatologist. Gavito, a applause for her. Here's in the podcast of the Request.

Gabi. Oh, thank you. Oh, eight books, yeah. Thank you. Well, thank you. Thank you, Mark. Thank you, Mark.

Thank you, for your amissed. For you, a few, we're aferraming to the dolor. The logic would be to sort of

the dolor, but for we're aferramos to dole. We're aferramos to the

because in the natural human is to keep you're always more time of

the necessary in a place. And the and the pain not so the way,

and the people prefer to get in something that's a little that's something

that's, we're, in, in a lot of mercement me says that you don't make you know

you're because the person that's the person who the time you know

a imagine in the case when you're a you know you're

that you say you that you do you that's that's that's well

that's we're a kind of a kind of a way to he's

trying to to show to how I'm am

very very equivocation the the suffering that gets

with the peridid, it's the about the the whole about the

time you have been you know, you know, you have said in other the podcast,

more I'm more I'm dole per correct? But, you do that's it's not you know,

you're you're doing this thing, you know, you're doing your question,

if you if you're if you see, you're a way of the time

of the love that I've had been in the but it's but it's to get to ever.

Because I'm you, and you have said the heart that's not so it's about. It's

a little more love. So if I have the satisfaction of the of the

of you, if I was a good with you and I always you know

I don't don't know I'm much time too time too the

time that has to be a but what you is how much time I've been tried with how I'm.

There's there some some malentendid that say in our mind, if I'm much,

you know I'm sure, you know, and sufferer for the time. The society, we've

loved much, we've kept them much time in the pain, it's more, you know,

I'm, you know, I'm not, you know, that you never can't make you to be

never, never, never I'm never I never going to say , I'm,

you know, you're you can't have to to want to be going to be happy. But

to be a real. But The time can be that create an infection terrible

and I get a heart of the time. What I'm to do? If I have a lot of

first you have to disinfecter, have to have to live it, and then have to have to be

care of and then once that the conditions are puttas for that the time do you,

then so it then you do you know to be in the time all cure. No, it's true.

You, you a bottle of a bottle of a bottle of a a bad a

light, in a bad temperature and you and you're and then the time he's, you're

to be you're in you're you're not going to get to get to and then

the same and the same does it. If the time it's what is what is

what is what does what is the duels of the the

dole the the is that the duel is a word

of action not a power of a contemplation no is

something that I I'm going to be how pass in my life, like a year, and I'm going to runcating the

old old how it's, how it's not the year, I have to dole, I have to do with the time of the duels that I

go and you go to do you, and then to get to the questions that you dole? And then,

when you're done the tasks, you've responded the questions, now so, you've dislokeast

the next level. Then, then you're a duel, because the duel no is a

place to get to to live in him, imagine a trampoline, Mark. Who, in his

sano jury, would be a thing, you know, a little

more more more unestable than a trampolin? That's the duels.

The pain a can be a master? Yes, the dolor of a

perdice is a great maestro that you can't that's

very ruded. Very rude. And I think we're in the

secondary, in the school, a Sufficed in the moment, but then how do you agree with the professor, tal, you know, how I learned with him,

but you've suffered in the moment. Now, let me to clarify something. The things that we're in the life, not us pass an for that we're playing, because it's the

life, seeing the life. Yeah, that's your decision, if you elige to extract significado and to learn or no, you know,

you know, you've not been not, and I've done cases like that you want to you want to you know

a question? A sure. A man was a because they had diagnosed

cancer in an step four was a very advanced the cancer but however

took treatment first a operation a surgery a surgery

and was stabilisor and it was a bad a

really a really a question she was a person she was

always always in a world And this perid of her health he gotro very bad

in the life because the fact is that he had had been a very rosa, everything he had been

very, it was almost I could say, the first that in the life, not he had

had not had had done it was not the construction. Passed

situations very duras. Two years after, me a message that he

wanted to make a very much, clear, but I know, when I gave me

Gabi, I wanted I want to be a problem. What happened? What's the is that fiftate that the

woman who comes to get to and you're going to do you know, it's a important in

your life, you know, and now, and now how I'm going to do you do that the house?

And so I'm thinking, and the really, before to have been to be the

first to what one has done, I'm did it has been the right, it's

has been having something or not, because the the Dolor was

it's a not it did it and he decided to live

transit and then then to be the same person that's a

person but it's what she decided and it does the

the problem does the or we require to

have to learn to to learn we need

to learn we need to do want if

you don't want to learn of of the fact that Freud in person

or Elizabeth Kubler-Ross, my grand maestra, revivier and were and we're a class, you know, you know, you know,

and it's a thing that to learn, because the same society you said, it's, it passed for

that you're to learn you, we're going to pass. We're, we're not and it's that's not

it's that it's going to be going to the opportunity to learn one and other

other other way. There There are some of you know what you've been not learned you know but the

but the apprenticeship not really not really obligatory. There's who can a pyrid

and then and dulce and with a pardida is marg has heard the exercise of the

coffee, the sanoria and the way? Count us that's that's a

thing. It's seems to it's that you imagine that the is the

water is the water irvient and you can react different

ways. You can be like the saanoria. That the salarria is a dura, dura,

the matter and you know it's in the water and it's kind of you. You can't

be like the egg. That the the egg. That the the world, you're afts and

you're and you know, but you know, you're doing, you can't be like the coffee.

That's the hour that you're in the water in the water also

change the water also and it aromatized all. But that romantic,

the example of the egg, no, they're not so much. Let's the man, the

little bit of the suns. The saanori. No, the thing is to be like

the coffee. That would be the ideal. That would be the ideal.

It would be the idea. Gabi Perezisis you as you as you as you

can't when you're when you you do you the grand

battles to those Grands Guerreras or Guerrero. It's you know, Marco you,

you know, you've got to talk a fiber very very sensible in me because my pap

me said. Wow. My Papa me was when my mother he diagnosed

cancer, cancer of my mother, my dad, I mean he's that me can't

clear, that God he's he's his good good and

the most grand battles. And I kept thinking and I think,

what bad, Papa, that consider is that not a good a grerrera? The fact I'm,

but what I know in your concept, you know, I don't coincide with that. I don't coincide

for nothing. I think that Marko, like many other phrases that we say, we're just

phrases of consolo, phrases like to make more chiquito your and what

the tanatology bus not is to do your is to great to a person.

In what you help think to to you that the life

you or that you're a angel you're a example. Or that you're

for many because my girl I'm I'm I'm really. I'm

want to me admire. I don't want to be not I don't know

I'm so I don't so I'm so much a little barato but

but but I think it that no is that not it is because again

God not we not does because my faith from the spirituality

that I practico, God is a self a man, is a father amoroso with us and he wants our good. But God

never is contradice to himself. And we're biology. Why we we're not because it's

the God, but the human is a person, you know, said Victor Emil Frank,

that's one of the experiences that here we've been to live, the infirmity,

the suffering and the death, are the three materials assignatures

obligatory when transits of this life. No is a bad a

good. I'm sure that's the 100% so I'm sure. 100% I'm sure. No, no, no, I'm

thinking about I'm sure because there's a point very delicate. Because there's much my mom me was really very strong

that was this story of God me has a great there in the year because in this life

me put proofs but there a recompense very grand in the mass

there. And I like, mm. So, that's, that's, exactly.

That's, that's he, that's not to you, but he'd serve to

her, I'm to think that all this and it would have a sense and

a recompense. When is the doient, the that's, Mark, the

he's is that is a person, then he has been the reason.

Nobody we're to be to be to be a little to be and the

the community, the family, they're saying things like saying that that's all right, God knows what he does, for something, something you know, you'd have to

learn of that. Ouch, me's trying to say that if I would have learned my lessons of other form, this no me

had passed. And that's not true. No is true, because no passed for that you're going to

it's your fault, and it's fallar. Now, that there's so there's Interest, and well, you know

perfectly with the invitations that you have here. There's an interest in that we've been 100 years and those live us and we're doing,

all right, we're all, we're going to, but it's a moment in that the people think that they're that they're

that's just that's that's a year, minimum, you've got you've done, you're

to do you to work to do that work to the death, to do you, I'm that this is when

it, when it's, when it to talk, you talk. If you do you talking of

you and you're you're just just getting so I'm I'm quite just a little bit

but to say to get a guy, it's that you're going to this because you

are a great great and God, you know and God you're like so

that's horrible. There's there. We're we're having good intentions

but we're but the good intentions not they can get

to lastimate because can get to feel to feel like to feel like a person that's a

very much, or that's going to be a burden, and over all about incomprehendida. Fugate,

Marko, the duelo is a club to have to pertaince without had paid subscription.

Passes to pertaince to that club. Now, you're there's sufficiently

duro as much that that's that you do you that you don't you

do you are trying much time, that you You should have to be the closet,

yeah super it, so, other, I mean, that's not that you're going to you know,

and I'm going to you're going to be going to be. It's like. You're going to like to

do you when you want to do this diagnostics, and I, and I'm, I'm,

but the more is cackadito, better to make questions, I'm going to give to

you're going to be a person very septic, but, but, is the dolient that he said. One

a time I took start with with a terminal. You know that the tantalogy

has two tampos of action, the dolient and the enderner and I said,

no you did you did you don't you my mom my mom got to

see and my patient had 83 years so no, no,

I did he, he said and he said, but is that's just that

it's impossible that you have been she. And in other that I

start to say to let's this is a product of those the medication that you're

that's faulting the brain the brain for the position horizontal this? And I

did you to come your mom? To what come? And then he said he came

to say me to know that she me stay waiting and that I'm

going to she she will be in his back and how you

feel so I'm so so that's that It's beautiful. So, you know what I think,

what I create, what you know, it's how you make you feel to him. Now, when I say, I'm gonna say, Gave the Ladove, B, because in the night

it's up, the night, it's up the world, and then I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, you know, you're gonna be to get the

Murto. There's, I'm gonna, because if not you're doing what you're, no, for what comes

to say that? What does me? No, if yes, you'll do you do you

do you do to do you to be to be to eat dinner

with your and then the supercue the puerco oh yeah how

how to know, after after a time of a time how to know

if with this dolor to be to be or if yeah I'm doing

addicto to the the of the can be, is there

can be add to do this doing this don't know I'm honoring to my

self as an old is an extraordinary question. Because I think one

once we we'll we'll let's let's you're that you do

your can't serve to to someone or give us the dentist

to say, offes to do What do you serve to God? My

God wants my effort. No, my pain. I don't want the pain of my

children. That's not would be a omenage for me never. The

homage would be that the day that you not they're and

they're more more than more than more. I'm more

more that the addiction. The pain the how it

is toxic and what is no sano and you and

you, you because I don't with you're getting with a lot, something that I should I

should be aferrado to get a clob when it's when I'm doing that's doing that

why not I'm doing. That is the meho of all what we're talking and not I'm not

I'm I'm confused and I think that the and the love are the

same thing? The pain and the love are not the same?

But the people those dolientes get to believe that the love and the love and the

love is the same. For example, a woman really little that went to and said, Gavi,

me went to come to my sister and then we talked and we're saying, and we're and we're

and we're and it? And what you're that's, how you my mom has been

three months to what's that's that we're to say? That's the

thing, in that I think I'm in that you when all the moms, what we'd like weir to start, is that the kids should are going to beaugh and not peleandes for the oil of the aros. But she sentia a culpah,

she was going to say that she'll be. No, she no, she no, she's not. The that's going to be a construction of that the love and the dolor are the same. You're saying, nobody me has done suffering in the life as my kids. It's that I'm so much.

And no, to love and sufferer not are the same. Pardon, Jose, because for a song

it's a beautiful, that we don't know. But for the life real, no.

No, the love no, it has to doleer. No, it's to doleer, we're in

the way, and then I'm doing that that's part of the love, no,

you know can't say, extrano to my mom, no, because no,

because you're not, you're the you, you're you,

because you've much, extra-er pertainstere to the love, not the

when I get to be because I'm getting a secondaries, Marko. If no, I'm

I'm going to go to what are the other? What are the grandances secondaries when I'm

aferrado to the is that all the people are more more than I'm

who I'm who's who you can't because you know that after the she's not

she's not she's going to will talk in the office to every to do the party to

the well, to you know, because she not with what he he's not,

to the better than she's not better than we're not the sympathy, the attention of the

other, the care and we engolosinam and we want to we're not we

know, I'm just I'm in the thing you know, the movie of gladiator

yeah oh, oh, me can't, the one, the one, that's goody

but when to He, you know, they'll discover, he's all, and he's a lot of, he's got,

and he's he's, he's a son of a exosos of an exos assisnated, father of

a son, and I'm that I'm so, in that he was that he was that he was a man

resentied in busk of a person and he's an exus and the father of

a son but he he's a son, but he's his way in the

story in the film, at the the When they say, onren it, is a soldier of Roma, yeah not an man resented. Yeah, it was a man that had

brought to his values, that could soltaire the and getarse with the love. If you can, because at the principle they're so, interlacedos, you have to go in the

work of duels and let's get that the love but the love if you're let's the love, you know, you know.

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And now, And now, continue with the podcast. Gabi, what has to be to be able to make a

person human decide to let's the thing. For that a person human

decide the don't have two things. Or is is all

is art. It's the only moment in the person going to

get a hard to be to be to be really, to be only

to be all the time, you I'm, I'm ready because I've

prepared, because I've studied, because I've heard of the book, and then I'm ready, I'm

ready for what what I'm there. There's, there's there's there's a rama.

So, also I think important that all of the dolient that has much time there's

there farra he quitted that grandances secondaries and we let's the responsibility

of their And then there you do you decide when. I'm a tautologist I'm not more time

than you know another of the great false expressions that we're saying, no there's more time than then you

get too time for someone that's been because you're being to see you that the day

of the day of the morning not will be the day the presenceions of

the time. If you you you not is, you're to get you

get to get the mind the and find out with who is a not you. No,

you're going to do you. It's an invitation. Starting for you, because you are you

see? Look at the mirror. And where you're to find more to

that's in you? When it a father or a mother, genetically we're

genetically, we're 50% of you. It's that I'm in the space. There's,

I'm I'm a boca and my mom. Expressions of my mom, my

are you guys are so I'm, yeah, I'm yeah, it's all right. Then I'm yeah. Accomod

the ref, that it almost that my mom. I mean, in a video the other day

playing. Because I in my mind I'm really much, no, you know, know,

you know, you know, you know, those of the 80s is that I'm there totally,

a chah a chah a bit, but my my son me grab and I go,

and I'm my so, like, like, I'm doing like, oh,

my my mom. So, my mom. How can you get something something?

My mom is entranied the time. It's got into the me. All the beautiful.

And the no, beautiful. And the it was that I had a that I

was that I'm so that I'm that's because, oh, the y'

the yaves. The the yaves me are the world Marco Antonio. A

And I'm, mom, I'm, I'm trying to be, no, no, is that I'm, and I'm, I'm going to,

I'm going, microinfartes. I'm going with the car, my mochila, my laptop, right,

my cellar, my cellar, where I'm, I'm going to be in the office and I and I'm and I'm

nervous, and I'm doing the people, I'm doing the more than this every day, and I'm just my mom,

and me imagine, my mom, of what you , my jitto. The, the moral that you're in Fereces.

Okay, it's interesting. I feel much when, like she was a conferenceist and I'm doing to be able

in public. Maestra, really. Maestra, was a marvellousous about it and motivating to the

and being and being being a trainer of the business. When I do conferences

I, I'm conscientiously I'm to give to give it to me because he momita

we're to do this conference inspire me and give me my my

intelligence give me clarity and I invite to that I did with me to be to make you and it's very be you

because it's a renegotiation you've been very, very very beautiful very amorosa and really in the process

of my duels when I was when I was when I my per die my perrito and all

and now that have been passed several years then I live into me

I've I've heard that I for favor but but yes

it's can I don't know if for I don't know if for I'm going to go to work with this idea and if I

do you know I'm in and I'm for example here in the city of Mexico in the chiquito

me I'm get the there's there's there's there's that much but me

they're they're they're they're they're and when I'm a organiero

and I'm I'm you know you're you're just we're we're we're doing

the organiero and at times me has got to make me a way It's pretty beautiful.

It's that all in the life, Mark, is the attitude and the posture that I'm,

I'm I'm sorry, I'm maldecy, have it said, and I'm that we

say this, because I think, I'm, you know, that the thing, still,

the time, why the people, the person's not so long, because we're

not something, Mark, that too, that's not more something that I

had, and you no I'm not I never I never never took

and never so it's not so those peridas little tangible

are more difficult to let's let's I'm example the woman

that was a mother and never he was the

man that he was a person in a

other he never he to make sure to start. Someone who was.

Someone who wanted to get to get to get so, so all those echoes of what not were

can sound more more more than what is there is so here so here you are very

expert, that is the great that is the dole, putting the focus on what is there

in my life and in what there. to not back us pure a keha

and lamentation. Very good thing. Now, Vino Gavie Perezh Dinos, how I'm

how I'm think I'm doing, I'm doing or I'm doing this I'm doing so I'm

saying, the pain the pain of the because all of the we're going to have

something that are not to do you don't be to be going to do

it. I think it's part of the intelligence emotional that we

have to have you to have to have you you know, how you're going to you're doing a way a manner sanna, or how you know, you're renunciating to you can't repent. I think there's

a formula that the Dr. Jorge Bukai me passed one and that is marvellousa, that is the formula of Oso. Oso, written so vertically. O'SO. Oso. Here is something?

What is the formula of the oso, Gave? The formula of the oso is, You're something? The first O of Oso, obtain it.

Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? No, you've got to

get it. You know, you've got four invitros, you know you're not you're not you can't

continue this way. I don't get to get to the S of Oso. Substituell

how I'm how I'm can be the football but I'm the football no

I don't want to renunciate to football, but I can be a grand trainer. But I can't a school of football for kids and to teach a

little, this love for the sport, and at the most I'm to have a little bit more. Now, no I'm able

the first Odeos. No, I'm substitute, the S. I go to the other O, oblival. Orvvvvvv, because if

you're there all the life after the that you you know, you've got to obtain, that you've got in a ferrower, it's

much in this ad, much in that's ed, forgetal it, because there are many things with those you can't

do you know, discovering your talents, for what is good, what is it that's not that I've

renunciated to a new, when I have intended, I've tried, but it's just to do you,

how many people are, their desire to be madres and are an extraordinary maestras, And I'm

I'm at those maestras Convocation that am to the children and that are then, well,

realized all this love that they were to do. If you you're you're

that you had after that that's that and there and there a reason lucit

and profound as I'm much love to give, I'm want to share,

you, you're you, you're you, you, you're going to be you

was, you're fame, money, ego inflated, then you're going to get to

because what really you really you're in what you're there's, there's a lot of

there's a don't. Let's the Buddhists do the time. One of the fountes

most great of the suffering is the expectation. I'm so I'm

so I'm soo so I'm so much. And of this we're doing something that's

doing it's is to to be a something that not you've been. Yes. The buddists say that the

origin of the origin of is to think that the life is this way when it's a no, but I want

that's the but it's to this. Marco, I want to give one 70. You know,

what is the marvell would be to make one 70? See, that's what

I would be to maybe I would be one 70? You know how I would be

a lot of 70? Gabi, but you one three. You know, ponte

the tacones more alt as you can't you know you're in you're in

you're in you're in your life because you know you're so that's so I'm like that's but I'm

now. There's a time right you say you a song there's a one of the one of the

no was, of Pablo Alboran a malague marvellouso that

that says it's called Saturno for that you then they they're he's

that they in Saturn live the children that never we've

in Pluton, even they'll hear gritos of and in the

luna they're in the echoes of your voice and me and we're

saying we're never we're a a joy a a

song because that is what we dole the perd in the

three times verbales the past that we've the

present that I don't I especially the future

that not we don't We tendremes, those that we'll do things that we're those

those can't we'll be in much. What I saw that was going to pass, and no passed? Because no

there's no, no there's and there to let's let us look at. Now, Fiatty,

the Institute Avansa, epidemiology clinic international says that the 10% of the person in duels

in duel develop a duel or duelo or duelo or duel path, where the

time pass, but the the Dolor not process and

the University of California in Los Angeles UCLA says that the

duel no resuelt debilita the system immune so

not not only you roba your but literally you

really you get a garrap energy a an

garrapata energetic there there there and it's so

so but you very very very the image of the garrapata, because you say, no, this me have to take it, you're going to

get it, it's taking energy, that put in other other place, you'd give much more rendiments, where you're putting that energy and not you're going to do anything. Now, the first data that ised, me preoccupied much because already has been a change. Desgracially, for the great

negotiation, that are the antidepressives, the antiolytics, and in the States United want to diagnose the duel.

If in six years you know has done, you know, you're going to

retomar a rhythm of life, now they call syndrome of duels long. Six

years. It's not. Six days. We're going to have to have

a years. For supposed. And what going to be going to

go to do you go to after six months you can you can make

because in the The book of the infirmities mental is the syndrome of duelo

prolonged. And this is a great business. Because, why are to medica

what is more natural in this world? What is due? That is that's

that's that's that's we're in, in the we're we're

to, we're to get the door. When we we've been in the

television scenes of the door desgarr of a woman grittando

on the swer, rasgandos the vestigures that we're there's no meritor, there's for God,

but what show, what's that? So, that's what normal. Pardonem me, that's what is what we

see. That's what we're not, that we're what we get into a context of a

not is a good, that you don't know that you're so much, you know, you're not

you're to, the person, we're doing, we're saying, oh,

And, God. Pardon? Pardon? Pardon, why? I do. I do. I know what

do you know what. It's your time. Pageroom for him. And even as they're excused for

most to show. Nobody should be disculparen't for yorer? Nobody should be

to be to be and nobody should be to give permission to doelar. Because

something that is that the people to say, this is for you this or no.

Oh, oh, oh, God, he's a other of the carra other of the

car, Oh, I, you know, you're still for that no, yeah, yeah, let's do it. Den me permission. It's my process.

It's my, I'll know. I'm going to advance without but without pause, but no me come to say

that's, that's the do you're going to and if this dad, you're going to be a good, that God's

he's going to do you do you know, thank you. Thank you. Devereas, no, I'm sure,

no, a family that was with me, his papa he was to be to be a year of years.

They were being making the fiesta, the people, and a day the

man, the year, he was being a morning, he was he was born a new

and he at the morning the next the commotion the and the people,

and they got with this frialded of the people of the people had 99

years, you know abuses, and was in time extra. Oh,

yeah, it's my Papa. Mark, you know, I'm saying to do it's

my papa. No, I'm not I'm not for a little. How can

say that things? Thinking that you know, you're right, yeah, yeah,

I'm going to do it. Yeah, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm,

I'm, just, just, you, before to be the bock

when you when you can't put, we're we're putting that

letterer in all the funeraries. And it would be a good help. The grand

help before you because one thing is reactionate from the or from

the discomfort or and other is respond. And to respond. And to have

passed for neurone not just for stomach. Yeah. Connectate with your

caron. Connected with your empathy, with your compassion. Connected with your

intelligence. Be prudent. Recurred that you know you remember that you don't

have to say nothing brilliant. And that no there are words of consoling. There's there. There's presences of consoling. And we're there and say, I'm

sufficient. But no, I'm to say something that's your dolor. Because why I'm going to get to do you? It's your dolor. And when you're ready or when you're art, you'll

let's let's do. But the invitation of the tanatology is let's your dolor. Because is the place incommod, that now is your zone of comfort in that you have

has been Kedado, no you're not to show the real real

love. I see a someone after a duel that gets in

a not he didn't pass a a capo by the little he's

a badger I'm how he was a that that's

that's that's that no I mean to I don't

have got to when I is love. That's love. That's true. That's love. Because you, for your

self- -a-ser-a-mated, what you cost to a job, not the barat. And Santa Teresa,

it was infinitely better, because he said, no, you're not you're not you're

on your mowers. No, you're not you're not. It's very important to understand

that because when you're when you're there's, then you so, and then it

impossible that your mom, your father, your he said, your perrita, the perrita, the perrita, the

guy's going, ah, look how happy you're in me, eh, no me's not you're

not. No, who's the who would be? Ago not a job, not far far a therapy,

a ego and he got to his own spiritual, because in life, you'd be

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God, God, person, of that the other person, is, is, me you're saying

that if the one of you'd be you, you'd be that person this conduct that you have you

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a lot very strong that I in some moment you compare and it, I think, many people have lived. The dolor of the role that you lose when a ser-kir-kid when someone is

a little bit or you're a kid or you're a or you're a person and you do that's

a certain that's a role that you have been in a role with many we're

we know I'm I'm I'm when my mom so when my

mom was you and I was a child I'm I'm didn't

know I'm still I'm you that I'm approbable the people, that's the

way, even, oh, that's the time, even though, me know, it's a good good, you know, with his mom and he said,

well, no, I've seen my moments of those old. But, but, but, more or less,

I mean, it's like, I'm doing, I mean, I said, I, I'm, I'm, but I'm,

I was a good and I'm really, and I'm , and I'm very good, that's the most important, and then, then

who's fregated I'm, so how I can't be well, how I approve if I'm if I'm

I'm like I'm like I'm like the parents they're in their kids so you're

so you're the role that's you're playing and that's a double duel, it's my

ser-kirido that's my part of me that's the part of me that's not only I

I'm I'm not I'm I'm I'm I'm when you when you

and that and that does very Muchissimo, because that identification of roles is very complicated. If you work as a producer in a television, then you're the senior producer. You're a place special to stationart as a senior producer. You're a commissal as a senior producer.

And when you're not a producer, because you're despidiered from there, you know, you know who is. So it's convenient much in the life. is to recording constantly who I'm not what I do, not of what I

do I'm so who and I'm a person that to I'm not I'm not I'm

not I'm the mother of so I'm the wife of tal no I'm the child who

is you it's an time you're very very hard because I'm to make

to the people because I'm a employee no that's in what that's

I'm the spouse? No, that is a role. No, you know, you know, not you identifications with the role. Now, when you're just down that with the perdida of a ser-kirited, too, a role, or with the despido of a

job, you feel a perdite. For that's us the word perid. No, it's because the other person's so per die. I'm sent me I'm a bited, sin that job, without that person. Well, then, you

have to look for where you're not, you You know nasrists being a care of your mom. You not nasiste

being a general of a bank, you not you know notis very

very very very but needs to sit and to start to

analyze to get a question. And is there's the thing

Gabi, you you have you did it in the clas because

if you did it there's this type to therapy to me has

a talk about a aspect of you know you know you

put you put you the sitting you know you put you and you

put you to ask to you to to to the question

to I'm he will say, no, is that I was that I'm going to make up to my mom. And when you permit is that personage, that role, that aspect, take the control of your life, as well, as my case,

that he gave sense to my life. All right. For that mission. So, that's, that little crecied, that's a no, no, no, I'm,

I, I, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, for this. I, know, not is real. No, it's real. No, it's real. But there, So then start to separate and say,

I don't know this aspect of me. This is a personality. Or not only I'm not, but not so I'm, because a diamond has many facets. So you can't have

known the facet of a diamond always, but for the other side there are another facet and other. I'd say to I'd say,

I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, no more for this? So, no, no?

To be. that was one of your facetas but there's more. We're going to discover what happens is that as that's not we know we're

so I'm so farrable to what I know that makes sense and that was social and publicly so that

not I'm that I'm sure that's the intelligence of your question you'd you'd be you're

to be a tautologist I'm I'm I'm going to think it's because

not you're the instinct would I would say, no, you no, you don't know, you're not you're not, you know, let me, you know, okay, perfect. And what more?

That's the only? So, so, no, you know, so, no, then there's no, so there's no, so, let's make them a case more common, no?

The momas, that's the kids, so they're I'm born, I'm not so I'm, and the sense of my life is,

my life for my kids, and the day that's my van, the syndrome of the nido Vasio, the day that's you're the pain, you know, if a little

a boy, a little, that's horrible, no. But, they're going, and a lot of people, they're going to study to other

country, or so, or so, or so, it's romp the vinkul, or they're not, you know, so, and they're going,

and they're, or so, they're, or so they're, or so they're, or so that mom, or that pap, then, so,

so, you, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, And then, I'd ask you to ask her a woman, for what you'd be a mom?

What was your motive? Why did you? Because God wanted to be the response. God me gave the mission of to be a mom. I want to think that if God you gave that mission, it's

because you had much love to give and your children still haven't in the world. It's said that your capacity to love you had before that they'd getar.

Now that they're not are they're I want to you're your capacity to love

still you're redire you're good you're I'm do you

do you know that that's that's that you know you know you know

you resignific when when an user because so you call

the patient in tantatology you you never never

I've never that is one of the major propos that

me can make because I'm put you in other place.

You know I'm quickly a example. A one a year

a year of my year of the year but I don't have

absolutely nothing to because I'm my mom. And the

really my mother I don't have no I don't have

no I'm to celebrate my birthday my family. But

I'm very I'm and he did you don't you don't you

don't you see the the first for first first

so me opened the so he my he said my boy,

never he said, if you think you your life not you know,

is celebrable the day that is the face the first and his

first his birthday. That's me invited. That's me invite.

Okay, there, there's other duels to the duels of when I don't

not you, the person no, but it was of my life. So, what is

more more? Perter to someone, then you just a not in my life,

because he went to the world, but you don't want to be in my world, and I

would be in my world. That is a duel very much. That is a duel very much.

And you used a time the right, the word, the ego. The ego.

For me, it's even more the separation, the divorce, or the infidelity, that the

vileity. How? Me going to say, And if the biode is terrible, if the biode's is terrible. But you'd get the agri-dulse consoled

of that he no care to go. He had to go. And no, I don't ego-eried. But in the other case, if she wanted to go, and then, also the whole the mountaina-rusa-d-d-em-er-ed-a-missue,

to me does this. And acuptu-a-Marco, that nada, that neither to unes a person that the enoched. Nothing. The enojoe more

even than the love. The ennojo The ennoge. The une. The one is more than the is an energy that's powerful

that you maintain enganched there. For that's important to pardoner. Because if you you get as enojado,

you get as cargando to that person for ever. And when you amas to do you do you

do you, you're not you're little to equipage, but the enojo peser much

too. There's to pardoning to do without? No, doubt. If no you're

not you don't you'll let's you're to do you do you're to do you

do you're physically. This is the symbol of you're in getting to get to receive

what the life has to give me if I'm the put to do you

a friend that's doing the things well, how I can can't do

to be a my kids if I have the people are in the

we need and we'll we'll and we'll receive, to carisial to give. What dole

or what pesa more? The usencia of someone or the hope

that some day will be? I think between the the person

and the experience that a day will be the two dole

much but I think is better in the absence

of the The hope as far as a, Mark, so, Mark, always will get a gasolina

for that you go modificing. At the principle, when you give an

diagnostic, you have a experience that they're in consults other opinion. Then you

experience in that the person, now functioned the treatment and

to move, you have to have a experience to come and then

when you when you see the the hope muting, but the experience

but the can't be a a lot of it's a much help you much time to make you know that you'll

you're a act of how you're you're just you're saying you're doing to the dents to out of no no I'm

you you just you just over it I'm important. No, I you just I'm my jit

I'm sure yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no exist in my life.

Look, I think, the most important for to know that's really has

solded is to hear your body, because it's the body,

you know, you know, you know, I'm like, I'm like I keep I

maybe, I'm made more little I'm not I'm

because you no I'm I'm carrying. Yeah, no me pesa here. Yeah,

no me dole at moving. When I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm

someone, I'm know, I'm don't know this entripado and you know, because I'm

got, I know, I'm going, but it is going, I don't go, you know,

you're still giving an importance of when you're really, you're saying, to you, that's

to givesel to say, the word a God. I don't you're going to you're not

with you want to be a lot, and to see the way to say I'm desire the bad at allie

not you see it that you want to be and me and I and I'm and I

really I think if we're we're not we're not we're we're not we're

because you don't you're you're not too you're you're so you

you're you're what you're what you If you're to listen to you're going to

feel like oh, that's a good, yeah. It's an alibi. Imagineate

to get so, and I'm to get it so you put it. Aubriety. Aubriety.

Ackmptu but fursen of this that he did this he was that you and so

so, and so, apriety a minute more. Sigant more. Sigant

like, sulten. and let's let's let's you at the first

you you're in you know because you and then you're you're you're

to do you never the other the other and was there was a other

enchantado and you here travado clandot clandot the you guys

when you're when you you're so thank you thank you thank you

thank you Oh, Gabi, you that has been done with a lot of the right final of your life, or that

has been to have a person who is the hubiera that more the way to the person

that has heard in your experience personal, what is the that is the would be that more

really? The that's when I'm in the actual, is that me

would have done and that I'm what I did, I repent to what

I did, it's a little. We know we're very we're going to believe a person that

is a lot of a little to get a doctor or they get a lot of to get a really to say there's

there's a thing you would have got to do you've done more of what you did what

not they're that they're that they're that really even they're even even said even

you know for the for the most do you for the What we dole is, and if he would have intended. The maldita

doubt. The maldita doubt. The maldita doubt. And if if had intended, and if he would have been tried to, and if he would have

been asked, and if had been had luched more for our love, all. Now, between the the arrepentiments

concrete, fiftate that there's one that's, that's, because it's, it's, I've been

to have been to have been more. Wow. Wow, no? Because at at least my generation we're doing

chamba is chamba and the job and it's a lot and there's a work and there's a and the feeling the

and the success the success after the much effort and so it's been to and when I know I'm my great masters

and me say I've had been to have worked I'm sure I'm going yeah me I'm going

yeah I'm going I'm doing other things too because I'm talking of that I'm going to

I'm No, I'm I'm doing. No, you know, me did you need a very good advice.

There's a good news. There's about Herald Kushner. The author is a rabino marvellous author of

a book very known that's because they're because he passed things bad to the

people and his unico and he was a un-inmune and then he was

he said, but for what? So, if I'm you're your pastor, if I

I'm to do if I do you to talk how it's, and, well, he's,

he wrote this book, the book is a bestseller international, then they're to get a

conference, at all the and he'd and I'm doing a talk about, he said, is that really

the perid us help to understand what is very important in the life,

like the family, like today, and it's a day in that the Jews, we're doing,

the people, we're doing the microphone, and he's It was. And all the world thought that

it, rompired in a plasos, he went, he was and he did he

did not to work the sabbos. That what was doing? No, to where he had

had given his book and the other was that was going to the

time. And so I think that is very so much to hear to

that you have no to have in the right final and

has a vision more more clear of what we

do we do too. Oh, the power of say that no. Because,

we're the generation where they're all the opportunity. We're going to get to get to get along. And we're

saying that's, we're not, you know, and when you when you're not, you know, but it's a good,

it's an good opportunity, but, but I want a good I'm a time, the power

to say no. So, let's say, we're not we're in our person,

I'm the maybe there's, there's a person, there's, but the majority of we're not

we're not we're we're in our last time we're seeing we're going to so we're

thinking that's nobody did it have been more. Nobody did no no everyone would have

had been that would be able to me engage I'm and I'm and I would like

I'm I'm I'm a great that's that's this message you know

Joe Black you know a Joe Black with Anthony Hopkins and Brad Pitt. When he was

very young-cito, Brad Pitt, he has of the death, so I think that's that you

get to get. No, it's not terrible. But Anthony Hopkins, in his paper

to build, change his priorities, Mark, it's a man, of a person,

and he's, that's a time for the family, to be a woman to come to come

to a family. And as you, you can expect to be to be

a person, or to the death get for us

to then to give us to do that we're doing this. Let's go to

you know, you know, and you don't think you have a mind that you're going to

do that love, to get to get to get to get to me

and he's me to go to get us the those those no

those those those those we've done those those

I'm the people, we're to be the they say repent in the

dolent. Marco, I've heard many times that me say, I'd all the

I'm going, for having it one minute here with me and say it and I'm never,

and never said it did it, and they did it and they did that time.

So, then I'm that I think, that's that's that's in other 30

years agarados to because not do do it, get to get to

a ferrado see. And one pantase to say, if you'd have a second opportunity and what I see, today,

I would have applied before, I'd say, I'd be, I'd say, I'd say, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd say, I'd say,

I'd really, how would be to say, you'd say, what you're not that's in, or something, or something,

and say, say, yeah, I'm saying, no, no, doesn't, but, but, you know, there,

there's, there, a beauty special in not have been able to not have been to be able

to do. Because then we're not been so we're not good. And I'm think that

we're doing to our opportunity to live the experience of the maternity of the maternity

and the mother authentic. The he said, he said, no, he says a

mother, no pospone his things to put your things to not. So,

so we we're We don't we have We're trying as to the last the last the last. And what

you're going to you've got, you know, you know, but not you repentas of how we try to the

other people, not we're to do it to do it's living it with her, I mean it was the doctors

me know the doctor's me they're doing, no, the regla number one, no, no,

no, so I'm, then I'm did the opportunity, you know, of Alzheimer, no.

But if I took the opportunity to experimenter the, yeah, or to distract her simply. It's that

you see, oh yeah, you've seen, distract her to change the focus of attention and the maravila.

So if we're going to to sing. Oh, yeah, we're going to get to and it

was very really little. Gavi, you know, you know, the problem, the perid

more great, that's I've been parted with you, I'm you've always been

always been very very very be a privilege. And, thank you. And,

we always we're going to to be the problem. I'm a kind of you like a tautologist,

because something you have inspired to do you know, what is the problem that's the world that's

you have the problem? The perid more great. Lidate Marko, that me to to work in

tantology no me a lot, me gave, me, I gave, me, he gave,

I'm, in some moment, it was because one person to me, that me had been

said a social, he's a little bit and he went to get us

he's quite he's a woman, he was a man, he was doing, the same of his

life of a school, I wanted to think it was a thing in the head

human and that that was a line between health and

and that's I'm I'm got to the question, the

the dolor more the diagnostic of my mom of cancer. Because that day changed our lives. I was

perdient to my mom a countagotas, perdient the voice of my mom, because the cancer of my mommy

was a cancer of a cancer of a cancer of a box. So, a she made

a a commando, that's called the car, to put them to put them to do the body

for a piece, a piece that they took to the the, the, the,

they had to He was revisiting, his pulse and all. But my mommy no did not

to be to be the voice with the voice with that I grew up, the voice

that I was that me was, that was that was my mom didn't go to

and I and I did you and I was an extraordinary cook and was

he was the really he was to come to not because

she she was I'm didn't my my mom

so I think the the most great was that diagnostic of my mom

his murder well, me disquodro but the the pain,

my only consoling is that she had said, I'm I'm I can't

more. Pardon me, I don't more. So I know that she was good and

that now me to be not to be to be to be and then I'm

then I then I thought that and I'm really genuinely very. I'm

I'm not so I'm I'm sorry. And I think I'm I'm that I'm that I'm

so I'm I'm I'm just recently I'm recently I'm the opportunity of present me in the

auditorium and my mom was always my fan number one was the person that was the

first place in the first in the first in the middle and there was at the final

even even even with my presentation and then then you in a moment given

in my presentation I said that would a I was a vacill in the first file and I did the name of my mom in alto in that scenario.

And me sent me very happy. No, me sent me very Triste. Of course, that's me kebrew the voice. But, acuptuosity not is symptom of duelo no resuelt.

That emotion. And that was my homage, to be able to say Nelly Islas in that place so so number to nombrer her.

And, that's always my grand dolor, but also my grand love. Thank you for question. Thanks.

Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Stubist. You've been in a congress very important in the

doctor national. So, and also is a father for the tanatology because they're purists and psychiatrars.

Of course, insisting in saying, Dr. Gabi, Dr. Gabi, no I'm doctor, and I don't want

usurpar the vata, no me corresponded, I'm licensedia I'm a master, not me, don't me,

doctora. But this is an advance for the because always it was that the

thanatology was a ram of the psychology. And we're a old complete. A tree

that's a doctor Elisabe Kubler-Ross that's for complete 100 years of his

lastime the 8 of June, of a woman extraordinary and was a psychiatrist

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and manifestarse and that the dolor is a a master, not a place to

to get to to live in it. Felicides to you and the anatologists and the natologists of the world and this advance

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pass a pass. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks. You're doing your book,

one of your books classics you're eight books. I'm eight books. The most recent is

your way in my book about how living the duel for an animal

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lecture obligatory for this episode, via for the life. Marivios. And you're

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America. I'm very very happy. And thanks that in this visit to Mexico we've seen a space

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we're very so much more and always, always stay in my heart and I'll always that I'll be here

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