El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - Especial 4 Donar órganos es donar vida: miedos, mitos y una historia que inspira - Dr. Alejandro Rojas

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

A muchos nos asusta la idea de un trasplante o de donar un órgano, pero casi nadie sabe realmente cómo funciona y cuánto puede cambiarle la vida a alguien.El Dr. Alejandro Rojas, médico internista, nefrólogo y especialista en trasplante renal del Hospital Ángeles, nos comparte qué es un trasplante de riñón, qué riesgos son reales, qué miedos son mito y por qué miles de personas dependen de una donación para seguir viviendo.Y lo hacemos a través de una historia real donde una mamá decidió donarle un riñón a su hija para darle una segunda oportunidad.Historias así nos recuerdan lo frágil, y a la vez lo valiosa que es la vida. Si quieres reconectar con eso que a veces damos por hecho, te invito a vivir 21 Días de Gratitud.👇🏻Inscríbete aquí: www.almamatters.com/gratitud*Importante: Nuestros invitados son expertos en sus temas y reflejan su conocimiento y su punto de vista, siendo conscientes de que cada una de las opiniones es totalmente personal. La información, datos, comentarios, estadísticas que se presenten en el Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil, son de exclusiva responsabilidad de quienes las emiten y no representan, necesariamente, el pensamiento de Marco Antonio Regil o de la producción del podcast.

The podcast of Mark Antonio Regil is a production of RGEL Entertainment and all his rights are reserved. Hospital Angeles Health System presenta. I know so you,

at the moment I'm not too, but at a little I used much, well, not much, but a bit a phrase of, I want so that I'd want to a runer a

rinion. And, well, we're going to know just to a woman who a man that a man who a lot to

do not in don't a rinion for that she could be to give I'll PADOOO for this

Pairja of a mother and a child of my daughter Mary Christina Ramirez, Donata,

thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Maria Christina and also Maria Fernanda Zabala that received

the reignor how many? Has it three years. It's a applause for those with much

love, with much care, and also we also we also we also we had a super-experto

in the kirofano? When you you do you do you do it's a transplanted renal in the chirophino there are 10 medicos or more 10 medic. It's more.

Mark, depending of the complexity of the case. But if also the medical that participates in the evaluation of Fernanda, we can count to more

to more of 20 medics. They've been to be a question for the doctor, Alejandro Rojas, that's with

us here, accompanying us. You're a medical internist, nephrologo, so, is a specialist in, in

in rinion. In rinion. It has a speciality in transplant Renal, responsible of the program of Transplant Reinal, of the Hospital Angels, of the Pedregal,

member of the Society Mexican of Transplantes. And that you've been the labor to coordinate to those 20 medics to pass for this process and that those two beautiful

women are to be with us today. So, Mark, and I'm to be here to talk to this thing that I

think that's valuable, be and, and about that transform a video. And because there's over

there's much people that have been a to don't know. And, And, Tristently, in Mexico,

there are more to 15,700 people that in this moment, nothing more in Mexico, are you're still in a transplant

of renal and that's a thing, correct? Totally correct, Mark. When you need a question of a question of

death, literally. We have we need a person to continue and substitute the function

of the runes to be through a process that's that's but this

process or this treatment or this not has not yet to have done the effectivity to be the

best quality of the patient and the major amount of the time. So, you know, for you're to get various

the function of the rinion, what is? Well, we're we're much, Mark, but the most known is, the rinions

are the elements of the body that clean the same. It's just, we're going to do you,

we've been able to do something, and the function of the reason of the reason is to extract of the body

to the desech that not us serve. They're they're they're

they're they're they're they're not quite they're they're in the

regulation of the pressure in the blood of the muscles and they're

and they one that they can't get a ammia yeah and when

the so we need we need is a we need a human

can be with a totally and it can be a real that's a great of God,

of the universe, of whom you creas, the averts to have been done two. Totally, Mark.

I think the natural is very savvy and us do two. For if one fail or to help or to help

or so if you're not. But, but tristently the level of donations is very bad.

And for that we're doing this program because we're doing and need to what it means to be

a donator because there many people that's that's that's that's their

not are used and they're not done. In effect, Mark, see that in Mexico

we donation very very very program and people like you that have

a power of communication but also predicate with the example the good habits,

the good customs and the forms corrects to live, us do you do this

society, for that this society, for that our money a

miracle of the love and the medicine modern that is Maria

Fernanda Sabala well, very very very much thank for

invite thank for being for start here, for How many years

has this surgery of this transplant? It's like three years more or less. Uh-huh. You're 19

years when When I when I was diagnosed I was 19 years and when I was the process

and when it was a lot of how you started to have problems or what was the problems? Well,

at the first symptoms that I presented was that was that was like like a

person normal and yeah but I not support the food my stomach and vomitable

a every a rata, like me I'd feel more a little, I'm going to present a sign

of anemia, that's, well, like a person young, I didn't know that I'm not a

thing I'm saying, I'm going to simply I'm really to feel like I'm sure that something

I'm going to get a not so I'm not so much I'm not a few those studies before the

specialist? Here, what the thing we did it was what was in the

time of the pandemic. So, everyone had a MEDO DECEDYRFAMILI general, that was the medical family general, that was the, that if not could eat,

that if vomitable, blah, blah, blah. That were the symptoms that had? Was it growing up? Was it growing up? Or was it? Well, it was, it was, the first days were like, I mean, I was, I'm sorry.

And it was like, well, no, but it was like, no matter. But then the next thing, more and more, and every those vomits were more, like, like frequent, and it was a amount of bomitos, those that had had a lot of

more devil, and yeah, well, no, no, I didn't know I didn't know how much we'd be able to do that situation for the pandemic. For the pandemic. For the pandemic. In what moment, the doctora general

said, oh, this is something more grave. Well, it's that after a month, she was almost 10 kilos, and he said to the doctor, no, we can't continue in case.

We need to do what is what is going, he did those laboratories generales, and immediately there were, And there are, the two hours

that they were to do you do things, because our rinions not were working. The two rinions don't have been working.

Why don't do you have done to functioned the reason why don't make you know, Marko, are much the causes.

Here I'm I'm sure to have been a little of reflection. There are causes that not can't

preventer, like in the case of FER no way to Fere prevener to prevent this event. Platicerment

about what is the problem that the disease. But the runeons is a infirm

in frequency for the The next. Number one, diabetes in our country is the principal cause of the end upherment. The second is hypertension. Qualquire of the diabetes, type 1, type 2? Yes, Mark. Quarkey. Hypertension also is a

agent causal very frequent of damage renal. And there are other elements like the obesity that also in this type of the painstimintestimination. The use indiscriminate of medications also, also. The automedication is a grave problem. It is

to avoid it, the excess of supplements, the way that you're going to say, it's going to take, and you get to take, and you have to be used to know and make sure. All right. All in excesses is malo,

but there are some things that are even worse. And in the case of the regions, between the medications we consume is better.

There are some of the necessary. The message is never see automaic. That's what prevenable.

Yes. But what he passed to Fer, to Fere, has a infarmament, that is a

infarmament that is a of the tissue connective. In what consists, in terms of simple, the body generates substances that damage to the proper in this case can damage to the articulations,

the skin, the carousal, and in the case special of Fernandah to a way devastation to a lot of so far,

that Fer perjured practically all the function of the runions in question of the same. So, it's not

in the the last the last few days or is something that happened during years?

Ferg, had some some some times in the times as a whole of

the evolution was in the period of course there's some very rapid and aggressive and others like in the

case of the diabetes that can be progressive the case of Fernanda was very

rapid the period of the thing of the rinions was very, very velo

and in question of when I know when I know the function of

the run then then they're they're to try to

Fernanda to emergency. Yes, but nobody was attended because it was a

pandemic, so nobody us wanted to receive. There we did not very to contact us with the doctor

and he us received. If not us had received, I think my in the Angeles at the there's,

there's, and you receive, and what you're doing, and what is what you do you do? We've done

to find out, we're we're not we're not we're we're doing active, the patients

the patients that we've been the nephrologes are patients who we're to resolve

the crisis. When I was Ferry, for first occasion we We found very occasion we We went to immediately

we're inaudly we're inoperated We're We'regencies To confirm the labiards from the laboratories that

stabilizing it We need We know We're extreme That's a life was in grand Pelinian

How How stabilizes a patient that has problems in Rhiners? The toxins that are

because the rinions because the accumulation of toxinas, generate diversed in the heart

in the many parts of the body. Yeah. So, in this point we've got to address a fair, administer some

medications to protect the heart. But the point fundamental here is that we've got to a catheter to doodialysis to fernanda

in a form urgent. A through the cooel? Yes. In the quoil you, the venas the vener most

used for the treatment of immunalysis is the vener gullasasas with a major molest, we've got

to a chirofano Fernanda and I'm a catheter of medialis that gets to get to the

heart and we could do a medialysis that consisted in diminuire to make a

rangoes all the toxins that were contaminating the that were in a period Fernando back to

emergencies at at the four of the time at the time and at the five, that was

in a minute Marko. If would have had been four 48 hours more

more, yeah the we're just we're going to but Fernando came in

a question but very grave. What was it for your mind, when,

when of the night, when you're in a night, in a situation of emergency? it was like, okay, a year

was a person normal, was about a lot of my friends, I'm going to all the way, and so,

all right, but of a person, I'm a person that has been a new life of my life,

and what can be going to do? What will do you do? What I'm going to do you know, I'm very confused,

I'm very confused. What is important is clear, no? The priorities can be important, and what I'm think important

and the only important is living. Exactly. Now, in Mexico there millions of

people that live with the heart of the realties. I think are more about the

10 million. We have about 12 million. It's to say that's about the

10% of the population in Mexico, is a number brutal, 10%

has some degree of a lot of know. Why? Why?

No, know, because in the majority of the cases, when the

infirmad renal is progressive and advanced and they're not

appear in certain renal, until a human has a

major quantity of the human normally, the symptoms of

the problem, or when the patients can know that

that's when they have only only a 10% of the to the heart to the

which is the you're going to and say you're to say you're practically that's a yeah it's a very good

caliber that it's a very but it's different communications to get to get to the yeah and

then so in what the moment they're a solution is a transplant into the first of

the first was diagnos what was to know what had generated the problem we've

we've we've we've done we do many the system a

infirmirmie connective, with a much, much affectation to the renal. We did even a biopsy renal, which is a procedure chirologic, in which the nephrologes

we take a pedacito of renal, and we confirm the end of the but also it's not to know the degree. When we've seen the

biopsy renal, the renal, the reyons, they were a pain extreme and not are recuperable. Stabilize to Fere, in

the next months, and we're just we're just in the hospital interned? Yeah. No, you

did say, one's a few, could go and in a ambulatory

we're with a treatment that that's to make a unactivar the disease, that was

lastimating not not only the rinion but it's not the thing. It was a percentage of the

rinions were. We're not, we had urinar, yeah no had

function renal, and it was a moment strictly of modialis. Okay.

And in what moment they said this require a transplant? In the first days

of the evaluation of Fernanda when we saw the biopsy renal and we we saw that

the rinions and we're not going to be able to get a recuperable and they've had planted with them

that we're going to require a transplant more in occasions we're very well

but in the case of Ferr that's a case very a retador but also

very much we've got we've got to get to the and one once that

the thing was that was completely inactive we we have

we're a period of the the and Fernanda coming

well, having a good quality of life and bettering those conditions. You're doing the transplant and the

end up and then you and then the new renalion. So that period of the time that's

that period of the time, we've got to the man of the family and more members of the

people, we have families formidables solidaries and much people said, Dr.

I'm in your family no nobody did the bit of the people said

I don't know What you're What you're What's in your You're in your mind Because there Because there

There's There's There's But also But also There's They present very

Like the Amada Not for One person Only, but for much in your

family That's That's through your That's When you You're I'm

Not me I'm I'm No I'm My People I

That's It's what I expected. I was. I was, I would be help me, but I'm

surprised me much to the valentia and that no, my mom, principally she never do, she, in the

moment in the that super, it was like, yeah, I'm, let me, let me, do you know,

what I'm that I'm yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure. What's in your mind and your

heart during those those days? Verla well, it's very very dolorous to be

very lot to be very important. Because is where it has to be limping the

body. It's very very it's all the water, it's all the thing,

it's the thing is the function external. It's like a kind of an species of a

individual. The dialysis in the same is mala. So, not it's a malvado.

No, no, but it's tardable. The malo is necessital to have to have

been to the function of the ringas. But, so, modifics the style

of the patient's to depend to and that is inherently will

affect your quality of a a week you have to go?

Three times a a time. How's? Three times. Three times.

Three times. Three times. I think first I'm three years, no? Yeah. With four

hours. Three times a week, four hours. Four hours. It was very very very pesable.

I was terrible. I said, I said, I mean, we said, we need, and I said, no,

I don't want to go, I don't want, I know, I'm going to do it, but it's horrible.

It's very you marred, you do it does, No, obviously. No, so, for one that's, how good

that exists the science medical. Well, yes, thanks to that my technology.

But I'm very, very pesable. And you for that's yeah? Of the one of the

one of the yeah, it's a real thing. I'm I'm going to I'm going to you know,

I'm going to you know, I'm doing, you know, we're doing. Yeah, here's, yeah,

here's, yeah. If you're I'm, I'm I'm going to do you but,

well, but, well, No, we have to continue a protocol. Because he said to do you get a a, a,

a, a, a, a, mom of all the family members that have to have a compatibility? Yeah, see,

they're in various, various requisites for someone, for that anyone, among, and so,

among compatible, that the person that will don't do that, can't do that,

in Mexico, not he can be a way, that can't be able to donate to be

that can't be able in the patients that don't in the chronicles chronic

like diabetes, hypertension, in the case of the donators potentiales of their time, and her mom, in the case, in the case,

the don't know the don't knower, but I'm doing, I'm, Chris, all this is a protocol that implic a major

security for you also is equal of important the evaluation for the don't know

the result because what we don't we're in a risk more than the other than the other

that's now that for the people who are not we're not going for that that

don't a rinion a sound of words and it is a human that

there's a problem but there any problem the don't know the problem is a short-plas

is a certain a very standardised now very well, he's made very

very a good and that has a possibility of risk or complications is a

three to five percent. So, especially in centers of health experience, like

where we know, the possibility of complications major is minimal. And at

long- place, that is where it's where it's always that's

what you want to happen. Unfortunately, in the studies of millions of don't

not going to impact the form negative. The that you do you

do affect to your other to get a to be a

that you're a that you have been a less, a that's a lot of a lot of the time of

the time of the time the fact of the lot of many people has culminated in living

more years. This not is because don't know because don't because the don't know because the

don't always is informed to to live with good habits to have a living a life and that

generally generate that I have a spectatida of a much a much more

more. Sure. She's more. She's more. In Hospital Angeles, you can

operate in the future. With ciruropical that's more precise, secure and less dolorous than a

operation abirta. It's less probable that you need a transfusion

sanguine also you. You'll have less complications post-operatorias and your

stances in the hospital will be a I know that this you're

you know, but how's how's transplants of renal has done? As you know, you know, I've read this

the count. At least, we've got in this point, we've been a philosophy with my team very

in some point we we just we know, we're just the number. Now, what we have to be

that we're going to be I've already had already the country, and we we're doing. Every year

we. We're in the hospital much and not only only rinion, we have igado,

we're introducing pulmon, there are many other organs that can transplanted. And the key for us is

not treat a problem, we're not not trying to a patient, but we've been a lot of a family,

Mark. So, your speciality and your passion is transplantar. I do podcast or

transplant a yeah, totally, Marko. I think the nephrologia me can't,

and what most me can't the nephrologia is the transplant, transforma a

of a manner passionately. Because you're salvando lives, literally. Now, you're saying

there's that there even many medicals involved. That's what in the

process of Fere? Who, who are those 20 medical involved since that

before when a patient is is studying to be transplanted and can receive

an organo, we're we're minucososos. In that protocol of study, a level

world, is standardized who should be revisal to the patient. And at

initial, you have to revisit a psychiatrist, a infectologist, a cardiologist, a neurolog,

a urologist, a urologist, a surgeon transplantes, and a nephrologer of transplantes that funge

as a medical, that's a doctor in all the system in all the team.

That's the principle, the protocol. And they have a run. And they're so,

is a group entire. It's an group enormous. And then

they're the The equipment that participatesip as the time in the process chirurgical, there are anesthesiologists,

urologes, but also an group very important, that consists in a infirmary, in coordination of transplants,

the coordinators of transplants, is a figure very important that hospital that is a hospital, that all the

people, we're going to support the people, we're going to do this, in 224, so farcibly,

about 48, 000 transplants of organo. in the United. Forty-eight-million transplants of organs in Mexico, we don't have the data.

But it's, of which almost 30,000 were transplants of renal, and this amounted 1.6% with respect to the year anterior.

So, the transplanted of reinion, today is the most common. Yeah, Mark, is the transplant that's the most is the

world. And the medicine and the technology has yet has yet a number, where you know, but I see that

a person to know that this is is a single. Yeah, of and the tax of

the result of the transplant super the 25% so the possibility of that

a possibility of that is a lot of about the 95% in centers specialised and the

5% is a is a rechous of the new organo? Even in the

medicine we've got to get the efficiency of 100 in this

type of processos and normally the talon the talon of

the recast the rechous the recasto to and Look,

the principle what we we're going to the rest of the reason is that the person is a question that

means to make to generate substances and then it's not that they're even they're the first

the first part the most important of the initial of the evaluation of the

quality in the hospital we're we're always we're the problems of the first,

the first capacity of this rinion will be compatible with our

patient. And number two, the treatments new, which are the medications that are in the surgery and in the

next years for that the body can prevent the one of the that the that's a time that's

there's a but what we we're we're that never that doesn't because if, the pronostic of the transplant

is going to be ensomrecer. So, there's to be a procession to, then,

now how, how many, how many, well, you're, well, you're, well,

obviously. Yeah. How was the process? When they were in the keyophano... I think the only that I wanted to say is that, well,

in my case personal, I never knew people that went to know and that were that said, that they were that they were

that I was, I don't know my brain the fear of to be a mother's a child. Yeah.

Corrace. The heart to say. You've had the opportunity to salvage. But apart was very

beautiful, the people, the confidence that always me bring them they're like the

doctor you have to do you have to be a lot of I'm sorry and you're and you're

and you're and you're absolutely all right and then super super good and apart

from the first of and all and all and all and all I'm I'm

I'm that I'm that I'm that my I'm my my I'm

that's that was my same that's my my sono of mom

so you Donator or the Donator or the donator, he put in your anesthesia and first before, before you

enter to the brain, you have to do the surgery to take the first. First, the don't know

about the approximately one before. It's our protocol. It's a surgery of nephrectomia

laparoscopics is that is how it's how it's retire the rinion of the don't recently we

recently we implement the nephrectomia robotica in the don't know surgery robotic. There's a

short a cut much much more small. Cameras. Yes. And you

do you normally? You know, you know, the syruhano that's a cargo in

that point operas a robot at distance in the room to do you know, to get

the organ, no, he received the other equipment that in a keyrofan al-le-

is in a chirofano is the don't know in the kirofano with

ports and communication constant is all the whole the surgery of

nephretto and is preparated the receptor and is

initiated the surgery to receive the organ, prepare it and start the moment that's

the moment of that's the organ of the body of the time of so there so robots

two robots, two equipos connected those chirofano yes it is an equipment

a one of a series of engrandes every participant knows what has been

to do you do you the equipment that is the reinted the team the group

the team of it's like a movie, no? Yes, it's very impressive. Very,

yeah, impressive. What, what's good thing we're doing to know in these times?

Yes, the fact that we're not. We're not, we have we're doing, we're doing to say,

to do the science and so it's a robot, what we're talking about the group, Angles, Angeles, the health system, is

that's a is a court more small, there's a more sangado, there's a less inflammation,

There's less time of recuperation. But, tell us, what has been the benefits of the surgery robotic and the technology in the last few years? In the last few years, has implemented the syrugya robotic in the area of transplant,

primordially in the nephrectomia, in the retiro of the rinion of the donator, and not so it offers less time of stances, hospitalary, less pain,

more precision for the syrujano, less indices of complications. More rapid. And more rapid. In the case of the surgery of transplant,

is implementing and are trying new techniques. The major part of transplantes in the world is going to do you're doing

with the type of conditions of the patient and the characteristics of the same. One of the advances that certainly will

be going to in a future is implementer these techniques of ciruia robotic in the process of implantation

of the organo but in that's more more complex I mean my ignorance and my vocabulary

that no I'm but it has more it's more easy not easy it's

less complicated to quit a organ and to start to install them. Technically it's more complex.

Connected. It's all the reason. It's more complex. There's a lot. There's a man still. Yeah. And how many hours

took the process complete? The nephrectomia of Chris was around two hours and and a minute and the

transplanted of Fernando during three hours and yeah. And you you're when Fer

still was in the gyrofero? And that did you the first of it was the

first I were the first what was that said that they I still didn't not

but the doctor me mantled to be in the time you're in but the fact of the

thing, I'm going to get a chirofano I'm actually I'm a little I'm

when I went to that there was a person and I said, well, because it was

a lot of people. But at the way I made to feel and very very

good because I know, I was there was there there's there

you're you're all you all and you And you, Fer, when When you enter's at the kirofano?

Well, it was a mixture of emotion and fear, the matter, because, I mean, obviously,

enter to the chirofano and see many, many things that you know, so, to know, to know,

so, I mean, it's a little no, no, so it's a change total to my life,

is something a good, it's a new, that comes, I mean, I said, I'm,

I'm going to be a great, because I'm enter, and my life will come

for complete. I'm going to to have a normal and right now I'm feeling like I'm really a miracle. Yes,

she's literally a miracle. A second opportunity is going to be able to make a new and now. And now I'm notties, you

do you do you more? For the right. For the right. For the

right. No, because literally in a transplant you're heredando there's, the organo if there's

there's change the patient that where the patient that's a organ starts, or tell me

if it's Hollywood that they're to develop good, something to get to get some yeah, I'm sorry.

Yeah, me reagania because I know my I think. Yeah. No, Mark.

No, is a is a thing to do that? Yeah, I was to look at

the guitar and I was I've studied but no. I'm unfortunately no, because

I would probably would be something so it is, or it is,

it's, is a renal new for the patient and now it's completely suyo.

But not there's no, pure, pure myth Hollywoodianse. Yeah, no,

I've lived been ingana. No, no, no can't so. And then the two

do you know, obviously are with an anesthesia and but the process of recuperation after the

surgery, how was? The mere my was more time. At the three days. There's

there. There was a much a lot? No, No, no, absolutely the doctors. It's that, the world,

the people don't imagine. So, they're really, that they're never permitted that they never ever made,

something I'm put it in the song. That's not. That's right. Yeah, Viva, Mexico. Beyes banderitas

of color. Exactly. So, the really, very, very rapid. I went very rapidly,

I went to go to the time. You know, you're going, Not going to, out when you're going to when you're talking

when you're no, there's a lot of that's really that's really. That's, like I'm I felt like me

moved to the other than I think my organs, I think it's normal, as it's like the whole of the

whole in the same so it's it's chistos. I don't know so. Much of patients ,

referent in symptoms like like like like a like a pack of a jacket

like you is the only that's accommodated. Like, well, the rest of it's going to accommodate all right, so like,

a good. That's just. That's just. That's right. The end uprored, the organs will come to occupy the space.

The cicatrice could generate a little bit of the first days. In the next there's a cockeeos, sensation of

little smallkecettos, sensations that usually, past those six months, for much a year, disappear and we don't want to

so say, then we're all we're we're, I mean, we're not to talk to, no, no mark.

And no, and no has done any complicated. So, two, three, three years of this, no has

been, in December we've done four years. Four years? No, absolutely nothing. Nothing. Problems.

Trabho, or exercise. I mean, I'm quite, obviously. Obviously. But super, like,

like, nothing, like, yeah, right. Yeah, I'm not, you know,

that's the time, even, even, you know, because I'm so you're all the

thing. All right. All right. No. No. No. No, no problem. Nothing.

Absolutely. No, absolutely. What do you say to the people that do you know? No, that's animing to do not,

the truth is to change lives for complete. I know, obviously, with my daughter,

in the in the, passing for this infirmity, we know much people that not had the

that we've had been a period very short that we could be that was, that's,

that's, that's, Fernando had 19 years and it's no right the career

it's a time a little but because a menemodialysis she she was in their classes

in line yeah so far so everything so everything all what has been given

these four years I think no it would be possible if I know they

and they can be they can be and they're a second opportunity yeah

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah now when we

don't when we don't imagine imagine Because, because a a minute

we're going to about the thing but a bit Fer, you're just you're saying, hello

because you let me retires those other those other those those notives are not

so the yeah. The risk to retire the way the organe the organo

never here we're usually here here again here here there's

the right the there and the other and the other they

are they're in a car yeah they're where It's always.

And you're in a place. Exactly. That's a disminue possibility of complications and the functionality is excellent. And they're separated. And, pardon me, inonance, but how can connect you

the mangueras the mangheras? The rinkertorrenal comes with all and a manglerita that's a moiretero that's a bejiga and the vasito

sanguinoes that are the basos grand of the body to a artery and a vener. So, the way that the

connection with arteries and venas and with the bejiga is in this level. And in the

point that you put you put your in the reason why it's we're going to get to urina the rena of the when it's

the world so the body says, ah, it's for here, it's a way, so yeah, it's a maria, it's a

maria, it's a marvia, it's a great, the technology, what the thing, the yeah, of

the people, the, it's, it's, it's, is, it's, it's, it's,

one, it's, it's, it's, the transplant is appational for all those who we

have been in relation with you. But the most passionate always we've said that's it.

Ferr just got to determine his licensiatura and so that's a specialist now in cyber security

and what that's a satisfaction could have in our work. So, so you

know, you know, I'm a new new and what happened? Well, to continue indications,

to portar me well, I'm could you come pretty or how was the

period of recuperation? I'm, I'm, I'm, when, 10 days in the

hospital? Seven days You're in the hospital And so... Dolea? Well, obviously It would be because it's a

area because it's a big idea. But, but, like my mom me took very very much

I had some of the but you started to go to the but I'm a sound I put

a son but but so obviously my rinion was to do you put to chambia and I

know I'm going to I'm started, I'm just I'm trying I'm I remember that I said,

Tom, water, Tomah, and I'm, I'm a lot of a lot of so I'm a little like, I'm a

full of water, but that's me used to get to get a put it in the time. You know, and then you're

to work. In the fourth day, we're doing the second in the fourth day is retire. And yeah,

and it and he's a other and he and he's a again, I'm gonna yeah,

I was, and when you don't know, and when you produce a a quantity of the urina

impressive Mark, in the first days of the surgery, I mean the lot of the second day,

we're doing the other than the whole of the water, they're in general. Yeah, no more dialys, yeah,

no more dialys you, ah! Yeah, no more. Reyesa the back, the way, it's all the times,

you know, and then you did you get to get, let's, like the fifth day, I think I

started to get to go to work- but it's a portable at the final of

Count, and, well, yeah. And at the seven days to your house? To my house. And since?

Yeah, here we and we know. Like, like, like, all of the specials,

medicine, something, something. Yeah, in general, all the patients that receive an

injerter renal, they need to do that in the morning and the time. This is a

point fundamental, because as medical, we've been to explain to the patients that they're

to come to do this medical all their life, and then of the morning,

in the night, never is comparer to do it but it's impresendible to make it

because it's impossible that some people are that are saying well, you know, I'm not my medicine or me

go to vacations and I'm do vacations of the medications and that that event is just the that is just the

that gives to be a organo and that's right so the medication is to be the retchase

yeah basically but yeah but out of those two medications normally are two or

three medicines there are patients that can take a couple more depending that more

the more different than that's, but out of the life. The life has to be normal.

It's the objective of the transplant. Regresser to a life as normal possible, activities,

activities, but you know, and then you're doing a lot of the population of infections, but there are

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And now, continue we're going to this. This list of an endorme that there, 15,000 people just in

Mexico, correct? So, so, could be a person, when I'm saying, I'm,

I'm going to be don't knower and if the family it would respecter? Sure.

Because here how works in Mexico, the time of the thing of an automatic,

you're don't you don't say not no, a less that your

family to put on that you don't because we're not a less that you think you

think you do you guys in the practice when a person fall yes for example an accident

automobile or in an event traumatic who who don't or not they're

they're not to and that that event generates a lot that when

not they not the family can say what will what I do you do

do you and the most easy, a the way that of 10

people in those that's a lot of a lot of a lot of except a two or three

people are to say. Only two or three persons, so you go to they're going to

they're with their organs that could help lives. Much. Because

and they're to be a tomb or the sun don't know. One solo don't know

more of a decenna of people. That's all that's very very grave no? I mean

is because it literally to just necessarily to disparage your organs in instead of

to give to other people? Yes, totally. For that's the important is to do the

importance of the donation. What is the people and the families say no, so, okay,

two of every 10 don't, three of 10, and the other seven or what are,

what do? Because obviously nobody does something nobody does no, no, I want to

say, no, I'm going to the the patients or the familyaries of people don't don't, is that they're not saying what would have been the desire. It's the

fault of talking of these topics in house. So, ante the doubt, no, more we don't don't. Yes, many people say, no. Other people also have the time or the temor of how they're going to receive the body of their family. And there is

where the coordinators of transplant they're going to be a surgery that's in line media, where's extraan the organs, but the body of their family is a digno, dignification, for that they're in the honours corresponding to

their crevence. No, they're in a world in bad as conditions. And there are other situations for those

that can be able to be in the studies, in our country, is because not we're not we we're externamos

and we not we're doing the familyaries for that time. So, I can say, I'll say,

I'm going, I don't know what I'm, do you want to do them, and then they can't get more in senisas.

The people that can don't know is people young only or to what age? If someone,

my mom has died of the 70 and years, or 80 and and a 80 and a lot, to get to

give a organ no more? We can't make, we're we're doing a certain between don't being donates

vivos or donates fallacios. In quite the age, we're in the case of

don't know in the case of don't but in the case of menores that fall yes they can

don't do when their family so do do it and benefit to other menors

to other the case of patients of ages advanced

also can be considered as a don't knowers because think in someone

that's you know that you have seen your life, carry a day,

does the exercise and eat and not have so those

organs can be in very good conditions and and a past

that are not not even people biologically can be much more

more and beneficial a an a an a

Right, Mark. A lung. A rinion, for example, can be a patient. Could don't have a patient maybe 70 years, but that live in dialysis. Me, you say,

is that there's that there's transplants of intestines. In the world, there's transplants of intestin, of cornea, of the cornea,

of the colonel, we have to do it. You don't a all in the medical. In what? In what?

In what? To do you do it? Of what you serve to get to let's make a phrase very important that

that we're we're in Mexico, that's the organs no go to the world, leave them

to save them very important. No, but apart what other thing that's a beautiful, more more amorous to

make, to continue living in other person, of some way and give a other person and to

do that person and say to your familyers, if you have a testament to put it, but make, make a

make, make, make, I think, no, because you know, Or, if you're

or if you're to manage, there's, right? Yeah, I'm like, the media and you can

do that's or in an intention of materialize our desire, the Senatra at the center national

of transplantes put a disposition of a population, a target as a donator.

You can get a page of the senator and in a format that is super rapid

to do do you, manifestas that you manifestas that you don't know that.

But, oh, Mark, although you you have this target, the most

important is that that you see your family say because even the carder,

if your responsibilities, your family are saying, no, no, we can't give you.

I'm a license to manage a place in the senator. But if a family rebel, he says,

no. Your family responsible, espos, papas, who is a cargo of this

patient? That's contra my voluntat? To be still still

still yeah. Yeah, Mark, because imagine this situation in where falle a woman and his father says, I don't want to

he has a child a donator but his wife in the tragedy of this woman in the scenario so sensible the Mexicans

not we can't go to get in front of your decision. We'd we'd have been all the advanced to

do that's for that's more important is, platical with your family and obtain

their support to donate that's part of my ultimate Voluntages. I mean,

I'm unrara and me makes me very happy to be to make to make

to make to make to make a lot of people. It's really that the

people don't, they don't or also they're that they're to know,

that's that's that's there's there's there's for security and for

much other other for altruism The important, the better would be not to have a

patient's that require a transplant. How we can do this to prevent the disease renal,

habits and the custom would be the first. There are events that can preventer like the

diabetes. The diabetes is the first cause of a type of two. Type two

and two. One, one, you know, the two the two you're the first of the

person. Exactly. So, the diabetes type two is prevenible. And the unprocessed,

sugar, refresh, not physical, all that generates. So, so good habits, good

customs, good styles of life, derivate in prevent the end of the disease renal.

One of the main things that we can't do. I go, I go, I go, hey, in

my analysis, in my studies of this year, I'm my guise, in the

studios, those, for an check-o- general, a chemical chemical, sangina,

that is how it's usually typically usually, including some parameters

very many caratinin, urea, and cheked all ligado, rinom, pulmonary.

All we can see. It's a good. It's a excellent tamis, facile to realize in an studio of blood and orina, how are your rinions. No, it's

something complex and can do you. And that's the examin medical basic that we should be a day. Even those the securities

you're paying, no? Sure, Mark. Because there's that it's that's a good that's. And if you're

a time, there's a form of getting to get to the transplant. Yeah, in the last five years, the nephrologes

we're saying, we're in a time marvellous for a nephrologous because they've been developed many of the

medications that can have been to the progression of various of the disease, I know,

there are there's pharmacos that can start to start to start to get to transplandes.

My dear Christina, my mom me said, I'm going to me say, you're not, my carne,

the brain, the rinon of my rhinon of my rhinon. What, what are you that you'd

don't. No, well, the The people that again but so today that

you have you in front, that you have the privilege that's the privilege of the time

what you what you do you do you know, that I'm that I'm the fact

these last four years it's I've seen to sing it, he has

played the career and every that I go to a event of those

I'm I'm turning to the magdalene and all the people me

and all you know I I don't should be doing what I'm doing, what I'm

doing, what I'm doing, I'm doing, if I'm going to be that rindon. So, so I'm

so I'm so I'm going to be able to a princess, I'm going to do that and that God,

I'm preste life to start to be doing that. There's yeah, princesses.

Yeah, very well the casting. That's so, so, and you, knowing, that you,

knowing, that you know, that that's a young, that's a beautiful, that's a

that's a and that's reordinated, I imagine that's the I'm going to be a lot. I've learned much to

learn the people, really, like in our world only is the school and like, no,

our friends, things, so really, we're doing we're doing, we're actually about a

lot of things. And when when you know a thing, you know, you're

that's important, and you understand, and you to get to a day and not to go to do a

and to be to be to be to be to be able to do you know all the everything we're for sent out of you know

for you know for you know for what you for what you have to thank you yeah yeah yeah

yeah yeah yeah yeah you say to your momita that you don't know

that you I'm here here's my renal me I'm I'm gonna I'm imagine you

I've said thank you thank you that's this is beautiful because it's

gram. He's going to grab out and you'll be able to be able to and they're going to share with

so. So, so I'll to say you. Explainate. Reconcella and tell you what you

see what's my model to see you. Tell you. She's the person more that's the person more

to know my mom. And thanks to her is that I'm here to be to be here to be here

to be doing this career. I'm doing many things. And, yes, thank you.

For all momita. I'm not I'm here. I'm. I'm that's great. That's a

applause. A applause for this moment of love. No, no, they're not they're not

a need. I insist. I think that in the past of this, we know much

people with much fear, insecure, families that were that's that's because,

unfortunately, the people, that's separate, because there had a people that had

a lot of people, because they to understand that part of the people that have that they're that's the

people who do you know, no, no, no, it's going to your life normal.

And the is that what you can, uh, a woman, no is nothing my daughter to be a

45 kilos when I was a woman, and she was a woman, sexy with her falita. You're a

mom, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, mania, it's,

it's, it's, it's, how beautiful to have to have here. Thank you.

I celebrate the miracle of the life, the miracle of the love, the relationship sacred between

a mother and a child. And also, there's there's a very good. We have to live in a

world. That if if there are many things that we don't know and we can't make sure,

and there's emergencies, but also there's a thing. But also, I appreciate that there's

people like you that said, that said my vocation will be to save lives and get

me to that passion to transplanted and that exists all this technology so thank you. So, thanks for

for coming us to share this story. Thank you, Mark. It's a passionate that's a

life. Excellent. Dr. Alejandro Rojas, you're in Angeles Health System.

There are hospitals in all the Republic of Mexican, but you are you in the

in the Angeles Pedregal. There you have been done there's a thing.

I'm when you're going to say to say to say, that's that's

that's that's just that The people I can't say that's a bit. The people that want to

evaluate this possibility in where you can localize or in where you can do you can't with an expert for that canalize

with the person adequate. They can localizarm in the consultorio 470 of the Torre of Specialities

at the Hospital Angeles Pedregal or in the director of the hospital Angeles Pedregal

putting my name, they're going to be able to be able to be able to do it

in our in our hands to make a in the the notes of the episode

we'll have and it's appearing on the data, the page of the page of

the hospital Angeles, Angel's Health System, for that they can localize in the region where

they're to be the specialist. I thank you thank you that we're with that message.

Why not don't? What we do we think we think I'm that more that you

have someone that you didn't know to do you know to be a family with a an amor inconditional

that they want to donate. There's people that not can't receive donations because nobody is compatible in

their circle family. So, for those 15,700 that are expecting a donation in this moment

is for, because no there's not in the family or compatibility or a or not.

Exactly. So imagine that you are that person that wants to continue living and

that says I need a don't a donor and when all the days fallies

millions of people millions of people that not are don't know we're doing.

Sure. We have we have the situation. It's like like, like, because no.

Why no? And if we have been something a question it, it would be interesting

question it because a because a other things spiritual or all. But what

what, what, what what's more spiritual and more than than

don't what God the universe, the life, the the

You're like you're not to give us a other human that is a person that's not

a treasure that you're not you're not you're not. In fin so so we're just the episode?

Yes. Well, they're going to don't their they're going to get. Well,

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