El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - Especial 8.- La piel también se enferma, las señales que no debes ignorar - Dra. Ana Cantú

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

¿Te ha pasado que una comezón, una mancha o una irritación en la piel aparece, desaparece y decides ignorarla? Puedes pensar que es “solo piel”, pero probablemente sea señal de algo más profundo. Hablamos de psoriasis, dermatitis atópica, sistema inmunológico y salud de la piel, con la Dra. Ana Cantú, médico especialista en inmunología clínica, quien explica por qué muchas enfermedades cutáneas nacen desde adentro y cómo pueden impactar tu sueño, tus emociones y tu calidad de vida. Lo que no atiendes emocionalmente, el cuerpo lo termina expresando. Si hay algo que no logras destrabar en tu vida, te invito a mi masterclass GRATUITA “Rompe las barreras y diseña la vida que deseas” donde te muestro cómo romper ese patrón.👇🏻https://marcoantonioregil.com/vida-podcast/ *Importante: Nuestros invitados son expertos en sus temas y reflejan su conocimiento y su punto de vista, siendo conscientes de que cada una de las opiniones es totalmente personal. La información, datos, comentarios, estadísticas que se presenten en el Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil, son de exclusiva responsabilidad de quienes las emiten y no representan, necesariamente, el pensamiento de Marco Antonio Regil o de la producción del podcast.

At the level World's more of 200 million of people live with dermatitis atopica. I've been 120 million

of people infermated psoriasica. So, I'm going to do you know and it's normal and not the problem. The consequence

to not tenders just is that the disease is that is going to be prevening in some way? There's

immunological in where we have the manifestations in the skin, it's like the point of

the iceberg. If you have to get to the medical. Existe this this back

of this you have this is contagious. One, in every four has anxiety and one in five has depression. So, so you

were that patient that was a patient, that was a person, that's a person. It's a impact to the patient and also me impact on the middle with which is to be revolving. So it's very dangerous not to attender to, it's very dangerous to let it pass.

The podcast of Mark Antonio Regil is a production of Argyal Entertainment and all his rights are reserved. There's a theme very important that we're to talk today,

that is the connection that has the health the skin with the system immunological. It's so many things very important in the

skin, they're in the way of this we've invited to a doctorate, is a medical specialist in immunology

clinical and director executive of the area medical for immunology of Lilii Mexico. The doctor

Anna Cantuck that's with us we're going a welcome a doctora. Thank you

Dr. Thank you talk about that let's say that's a furrow from

from the connection with the system immunological? Sure that is that this question I really is that this

question I'm that's a lot of something that's something like things esthetical and not they do you associate with all what

what comes there's there's there's there's immunological in where we see the

manifestations in the skin that's like the point of the iceberg but there's there all

there there that's participating participating much cell the inflammatory, et cetera, and that what we

we can't is only the superficial. The reflex is the reflex. The skin is the blood. The skin is the end upro? It's correct.

There's a connection with the system immunological. Exactly. Okay. What is that connection? This connection. A very,

first we're going to what is the immunological and what is the skin. I'm not. The system immone, we all know,

we know, we know this barrier of defense that, that will identify and will eliminate all that that's going to

do that's all that's bacteria, virus that are the modern, for example, no, some of the agents external.

And the is, the is like this a path, that is to protect to all the exterior of

those microorganisms, etc. But also, it has the function, for example, to maintain the

the water, to us, and the most important, Mark, is that's an organo

immunological of the humanological is that you are always, the whole the time,

they're in the time. So, for example, if He called my system immunological and say, Ongon,

and say, I'm going to come here. Because there's a lot of and see, and they're going to get to be

to get to be to get to be more. And if the system immunological is altered, there's manifest in lesions

cutanies. So, always, there's a constant, constant communication. And justly

we say, that the skin is the space of what you are going to do you, you've been,

what you're about, some of these things are, some of them are in form intermittent.

Just, And it's for this, because we're going to work a system monological is present or a work or it's like a switch, that's preending and

it's a pender and normally this preendio apagated has been to be able to be but there's in those the time

or then it's all the time because there are that's notherty or ambientals that generate that this preannid that's just about

it's true. Now, it's really that there people that even even has inflammation, comestine,

bronchas, even even even as yagas, and no bad, doctor, I don't not be to

say, I'm going to be able and it's normal and not it's a medical? Yeah,

I think that's a world because we're we're used to live with the symptoms. Normalizam

the symptoms, not in some occasions. For temor, to think to it's a little

more than the little bit and my my abulita did so my and so, so I'm going to have to be used to.

So, then, then, then, well, more grave, that merit to that I'm going to get to tender, because it's the and justly we think that's something very superficial, no? And some of those cases, cosmetical and we know how about the importance to do, justly with the specialist. And what does that person? Simply

simply, you make, she maquilla, she'll cut, cremas, or learn to live with that stigma. Because, apart, also, the people, you look to be in the when you trys something, and you don't see, you're going to be able to be able to.

Exactly. Yes, yes, yes, yes, you, do you, you get to occulted, normalizes totally, the cremas, no, or you put

the makeup, or as well as my abolita, my abolita, I was put in the idea, and I'm going to get it.

So, what are those things that are the things that the skin and what are the symptoms

for that we're the symptoms, that's the end up that's autosyacic and the dermatitis atopic.

Explanus every one, the first what is? The infirmat syacica. It's like psoriasis,

it's like soriasis, and every we trytons to say in the formidivac, because it's a

problem systemic, not more than the thing that's the thing that's like the example classic,

for so say it's that there's an alteration in the system immunological. There's a system

immunological, like you said, will attack to that is patogene and it will be

eliminate. But here the system immune is altered by questions genetical

in the medical, in the which will start to attack the proper the

so normally the skin regenerate 28 days. In this infirmatical

As far immunological, the soldier to the blood to the time time for the time to make

the remodeling of the time. I'm not to three days, Marko. Okay. So,

imagine it's like the, like the when they when they're when they when they

come in the time it and sumandos and sumandos and so they're puttumato

scamosas. Eritemato that are rogisas and scamosas because they they're in this scama that is this

skin that's just regenerating. And all this came, Mark, because there's this

alteration internal of the immunological in the time monological, in the carotidid, which is just the cellula

encargated of the resigning. It's the psoriasis, but adivina what? Like you

said, we're just we're doing the concept of the formality psoriasica, because

also we've seen that these patients have been an impact in the health

in the health care, so I'm especially, to say, a dibertension, a dyslipidemia, and

important, also at risk cardiovascular. We've seen that the psoriasis, the patient that has a formality psoriasic, only for having apharmat psoriasica, has a an risk of the 50% in having affections cardiovascular severe. That's so

what are the symptoms? Because there are people who live with this without recognizing that has a disease are you just the placas eritamato scamosas, not? They're plaquitas rojas in the skin, that's commas like to decamar.

Like, that's the patient. That is the principal symptom cardinal of what is the infamendat psoriasica, of the

psoriasis. Also, also a very important in dermatology, is where they present these lesions.

It's present a lot, for example, in zones of the area, the zone of the gluteo,

then the area of the area of the same, because imagineate that your time you know, point to

here's the cod, and if we have a system immunological that's super accelerated thinking that

the kerateloncito is a mal and you're this is attack just to attack just to

in protuberances, osias, decimus, that's where there's where there's more contact with with zones

of friction, etc. The alert would be, if you have to get to be the medical? If you have

lesions, like these placas, that make us that generate much commisone, you know, you know,

that someone has a type of that's a same thing, and it never never took like,

it was, it was, it was, you know, it's that too, it's that was like it's like

it's like something, it's like something, kind of pass and that not get to

pass. This is one for you have just to come to get to the medical. And much

the patient acutely, when then then they're in other areas, where it's or they're

more more they're more they're in a one and then like we say we're and then

it's up and then it's not in other parts or when it's more so when it's

not not this now is normal. Yeah, it's also when when you're when you a lot of

a lot of when there's Even if it disappears. If it's, if it's, if it's a if it's a pago, no, it's like to say that's exactly.

Exactly. It's because are the end of the chronicles. So, it's that even, even though the

symptom disappear, there still the causeante of the when the people, when the people don't grow up and

what are the consequences of not tenders? The consequences to not tenders just is that the disease is that's

because the because justly not you're not you're not you're not this question in this patient in the

case, in the the lesions of psoriasis, how is it's for the end. And there's this risk cardiovascular that's high really.

What you're going about it's going to go out of it. Then we're going. Then we're going. Then we're going to. Because it's the thing is the

space of all the thing. So this patient, for example, with that's the part of that will have more lesions, that are more

difficult to not, because then is the system immunological very active. The skin also is suffering these lesions

and the regeneration can be a little more more than is a bit more to beurred of the patient.

These patients that have also the patient's that have been a heartisicicis, will be a affection in the articulations,

which is artitis psoriasica. So, just if not you know, this is a, as you say, to pay a little

to level the system immunological, this patient, other than to have to have a fecese in the articulations. Yeah,

you can't have a life normal. Totally. Totally. Affected the suer. Yeah.

The psoriasisis if it's is to affect the same, but right that's the other the disease, that is the

typical, the the suitor. A bit of the other. Dermatitis atopica. Dermatitis atopica. And that's, what is the difference

with the psoriasis? The cause. In psorasis, like you said, attack an immunological, the keratinosite. In dermatitis atopica, justly, there

two factors that generate that's desate. One, that is the skin, the barrier cutania, always is like unied,

and it's unied like for proteins, I think, all of the chikito, we put some once, resisted in the hands,

and we did it How do you form a telaraeas? Well, just the skin is a new so in dermatitis topica, we're going to

get those telarayne not quite, and we're going to get into that we're going to be a lot of the barrararacutania. So if you

recordaras in the suriatic, what is the thing is that the thing is that the

endermatitis topica, we're going that the problem, we're because these unions not not are totally

well, and it's to be able to be the piece and that what does

this is be deficient. And enter any whatever and generate, just to to desatar the response immunological. So, as a

one of the organo vivo, and is a constant communication. So, so always they get to endmatitis atopica, these two factors. And also it

and it's on and it's so it's and it's not, because if you you know, if you have been because the

body is a because the body is very intelligent and the same thing, the same the same thing, and the other

does the that the then you know, So, are Intentos to sanar. Exactly. So, are

Intentos to Sanar. And this is the way to get the dream, because just the lesions

because just a lot of the lot of a piece of because of the skin because the skin is a

there's a there's a discrocy there's a bararacutane and then that's a thing to get a

so that then this skin seca because it generates commasone so, when we when we

don't know when we're so much so much so much the cycle of the burrito and the swen. Because the brurito is like the commissom. Okay. So imagineate that you're rascar. And if we say that the skin is abyrtta, you're saying, so it's a manner burd, for

I'm saying. And this commisone, over all, is more predominant in the night. Okay. So, so you know, it's horrible. It's not, so, I think that all of us has piqued a mosquito. Sure. And you can't even put to live to drink. Imagineate this in the patients with a matitis atopica. Yeah, no, you can't have a normal. Totally. Not. Not. Not yet. And the patient and then the family. The not

attender you affect you affect your your own your state of your mind it. You know, when when no

no, it's like like, it's like you know, because you know because you're doing it's not you're doing all the days,

365 days a year for much time, justly, you know, then the depression, you know, and then in some occasions

symptoms, yeah more severe like, for example, intent suicidats. So, so far as, so far as that's when

you're not when you're about very very to be very dangerous, it's very dangerous to let them do it's very difficult, it's a

it's a back of the infirmative. What is what it's what makes that justly to get to isolate because they're, so, they're just that you're just getting, because they're saying, oh, this stuff that you have is, it's contagious, patients that's

subven to the elevator and and they say, all those who they're in the elevator, they're going to the way, they're and they're in the and it's contagious. No. No. And the Firmatitis atopica are not toxic, nematitis atopica, are not yet yet. Okay.

No, no, they're not sure, but the people, so they're not getting to vacations, just, just to beacquette, not just because of their skin. You know, It's verano, Primavera, the play, the arena me pica, no I'm going to

be there. So, and why not they're not? And why not they're not. Not they're not. First,

also, in many, in many times, because they're not even people, they're not with a cream,

then they're a medical that not a specialist, and the treatment, not get to the thing to

because to the people, there's many there's many there's and that they're cutanation. And you

get the thing you're but you're getting the symptom. just not you're not you're going to what subjazzed

into what is the problem now. I'm looking here some some numbers that are in a level

world more of more than 200 million of people and they've with dermatitis atopica 200 million

of people is so much it's much so much 200 million because so much because

so it's a very frequent of what is the real, the fact is of the

the health the world has of a level has fored much the environment

the environment seco what happened with the cap of ozone, all that's all

that's re-seca much the and at the end of the kind of you have, you know, there's a little bit of

everything, then you get to get to affect and that you get a particular and you get the end up and then

also the psoriasis affect approximately to the population world, what equivalent of 125

million of people. Yes, 200 millions of people, the matitisa topica, 120 million

of persons infermatic. That's much. That is much. So is much. So can prevening?

Do you way? No, you can't prevene? What you have to do you know? If you know, if you know,

the question here, genetic, the system immunological, because they're in a relation. And if you know you

present as a little of this, you're going to do that you need to come out of the dermatologist. Now, always, it's

very much, for example, to have cremas, the totos emolientes that are those cremittas that the hermatologists that the

time, because just, although you get to bring to, that your barrier cutania is a a good thing if you

have a or a reaction, the symptoms not are so not great. Or, so much this is here

the organization that the health recognized for the first first in 2025 this is a thing of

important a matter of a light of a lot of a lot of the world. So, I've

been growing that part of that grows the percentage has more visibility. Here, just when

the Oms dictamino this, they did know that there 2,000 millions of people,

a level world that presentable in the end of course and that's not a problem that they

have a component, like you very well mentioned about, and a great impact on the quality of life,

a level psychological, no, and that also, as we're saying, are doing what they're being,

what's going to about. For the end. It's a problem, women, women,

men, the disease, we say, we're not, we're that has two picos of presentation.

The first peak is of the 18 to the 40 years and the second peak of the 50 to 60 years.

Well, so there's a good part of the life. So, more than two bigos. More than

as well, like meas, yeah, because it's 18, 40, so is a 40, 40,

so is a lot of this end upy this person person generally. Generally,

it's in the infancy for the same that we the barrera cutania

is a a paris. And conform the baby growing, so your system immunological,

all, it's going to get a factleasing. So it's very frequent that the dermatitis atopica or is more

prevalent also in patients, in patients, in patients pediatricos. But, a percentage of these patients that

have passed on the infancy will persisting in the adult. And many times don't know,

so on the that you know, put you that they're doing the diagnosis of dermatitis atopic topica. When it

got to the dermatologist then you start the history clinical, to ask the symptoms, to be, how are the symptoms, you know,

presentable you. You know, I remember that my mom me said that my mom me said that's that's a little, and you have to

the end of the end of the life. Also, in the adult, then it gets to present to new. So,

just we have different if there are schemas and graphics very little in the times, you can have

been able to the patient from, or even in the tap school could have been in the

tap adult or well in the time or in the time of the year to be in the same it's super very dolorous

living like this imagineate it's really when you know that's a thing that's a lot of the one of the

one here there's present in various places of the body of hands, in spalda in the

part of the body? The dermatitis atopica accorded to the age, vary much

the form of presentation. In the the children for example are the those famous those

those casetitos rosaditos lots of these a new because it's like a piece

we say we're like a acematosa very rogista like the these patients really have dermatitis atopic

so in them it's present much in the catchettitos so the the car the part also of the

abdomen yeah in the top of the school is a example of the adultent in what

are the so it's like many people know so many people they're like the

those ones are the ones the ones are the plight and then the ploy popitlio

also also also there in the Orichita, also get to scammarse and to generate

these yagas for so, so they're very dolorousas. Duly. Arde, it's dole, it,

cause, it's a commisone. And in the adult, it's pretty in what is the cooel, in the

partados, no? So, so that was it was a know, that just

never she was never she make because that's that was in her the

skin seka and desatable these brotet and you immediately it would immediately

to enchar. Yeah. Before to continue with the podcast, I want to ask you something

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And now, we're going to the podcast. What are the advances of the science? Today, what is the treatment?

A person that has psoriasis or dermatitis atopica? The first is to go, not with someone who

manage the part estetic, a dermatologist, a dermatologist, but a dermatologist, but a personelgo that's

in the part estetica, is the first part estetic. It's the first in the clavola, dermatitis atopica, the manage of the dermatologist, and the allergologist

or the immunologist. Ah, so, first step. So, you're seeing this podcast, listening to this podcast, and you say, okay, a where I'm looking a doctor?

What is the specialist? The dermatologist, the dermatologist, and every recommend this manoeuvary, dermatologist, okay, with the two.

With the two. Because with the dermatologist, because with the dermatologist, attack this barrettaic that's a disruptive abirta. And with the immunologist, in the system

in the system immunological is a totally active. Now, something about the dermatitis atopica is that has that has a

component alergic very important. And it has it is associated to other other things like the

asthma, the rhinitis allergic, no, and then we know we knowce a concept that is the marcha atopica

so, in the you're going as the patient, since it was when it's getting an

alergic to the lactos, et cetera, no? Okay, soverevue that

tap, and then you know that has this rosy cheek, that says, I mean, that's a lot of but the skin catchita rose.

It's alterate. And then you see how the patient then pass the time and it's the asthma. And then then it's an

alergic. So, so also also it's a manhelejo multidis in the which the

alergologist, the monologue, is primordial because also you're to help to control those other

other other diseases alergicas that's that they but the first is the dermatologist.

But the first not so specialize in the esthetic. Exactly. How those how do you look? How do you thinkes? Right,

right there are many platforms digital as like you put the medical and you put an expert on, blah, blah, blah. So you can get an dermatitis atopic

in a disease atopic or psoriasis as like you see. Now, something also, and I think is the space to

share it. There's a foundation, that is the foundation Mexican for the Dermatology. And it's

a page in the world also, if you look or you questions or you can't answer.

Now, so there because there are people that's working. And then also I think they're in

a new time. And then they're just right who are these people who are in the questions, in the United or in Colombia,

in Ecuador, in the rest of America Latina or in Spain, a brazos. So, we have to look locally

in your country, experts. Now, if there are medications, there are there's,

obviously, no, you know, you know, you're not automatical, but the dermatologist

to the other demergolov or also the alergolov and the and the and the and the

are pastillas, are unted, are injections, or there's a variety of a variety. There's a lot of a variety. Justly, now we're living

and every once we're going to the science and we know them, and we can't identify those things, we're going to be going to

and the matitis atopica that's a this, then if it's a process, it's a there's

different medications. Different medications. Depending it's like it's like a major in the patient.

It's in the clove. It's a major of the patient. Because just we're just we're

we have we've got to be patients, not we're in so it's it's a better for a patient and that's not the best of a patient.

So, so you have to be to perfilar. So there's many options. I'm a time when I'm when I'm

doing with with the emolients, no, that's the base. And we we're also

we're not other medicines that's autoimmunens, like for example in rheumatology. No? Because then you

said, well, no, but if you functioned this for regular, for example, the arrhythmatoid, blah, blah, blah, well, well, well, well, well, well, but there has been a revolution,

as you mentioned in what it's known. So, so there's justly medications, some of them are pastillas, others are also also intartments injectos, no, are subcutaneous, that justly what they're doing is regular this inflammation, that's, the immunological, always is between them, with proteins. I go, no, they're not? They're communicating between them, a through certain

proteins. So then we we're going to some proteins that are more expressed in psoriasis or more expressed in dermatitis atopica

and justly the medicines that are injected as acutanias attack those cytosin that are calling to a more system

immunological for that yeah, and you're just helping to regular this system immunological that response

overactivated. And those treatments are for life or are simply to treat the and if it

can disappear the disease? No. They're chronicas What they're They're not They're still

Until the Fecha No, there's There's a No, there's Because of course We're even We're going

Seals more Spaciated, not? And then it's like almost all the days Now, now,

there are options in that you can't be more so that's so no so there's So, no,

there's no, no, no, and justly there, and then you see, then you know,

because, actuian, and they're and they're not just to don't know, just the the disease

and in any moment it can get to a brot again. But that's not to

not to get to get to the specialist. And of the treatment that are today something like some other

those medications have been events adverse. There are to be profilar the patient because if you have

a risk that the medication to generate another reaction, then you don't so you

have to do that's a patient. So, you always you have to do you do this

different to do you monitored for that the patient not yet to present. It's important that we'll

talk about. I'm going like, leading here the statistics, every there's people that's

that's people that's impact on their life work, a person or is a person who's

or he doesn't know that he does it not know how to how to how to

and then they're to make decisions of style of life they're they're being

to be with a more more playing to the more playing a defensive that I'm going

there, I know what you have in your supercomputtador but there there's a connection direct with the depression.

Right, there's a connection direct with the depression. And, for example, that's a very interesting, in the way

we can't see how these patients that have dermatitis atopica, one in every four has ancied.

And one in every five, has a person. Exactly. Exactly. It's a

very, so, so it's a time, we know, that the patients, even for the brurito,

they can't do not get. For the blood. For the rascado, for the ardu, for the commasone. Oh, and as you,

when you pick in the moscos, no, you can't do you know, imagineate this that's a form permanent. The truth is that part of the

patient, also affect it also to affect that much, my chiquita has been aortic apotica, no, and I've

had been inbrote and all the nights, I feel that's and you know just that's you're just you're just

your name? And then I'm too, I'm don't know dermatitis atopica, but, well, I'm not your child and you are under the treatment. So, so, not so

you're doing so much more than problems in the blood, because there's a problem with the way. Exactly. And something, and

you said, dermatitis atopica, has a factor environmental, genetic, and much times get to a little more frequent, present those

brotes or discontrolarse, in the in the spring summer of winternal or also, we have to be the pattern.

In the timevernal, because then then we go after much free, and so, and then, we banjames

with water Calient, no? The water the water then the water can

then you know and then there's a thing that's there's a other people who are there's not there's not

there's there's there's there's like there's there's a there's a there's a

a bit of and say ah, I've been a recommend, no, you need to you know,

you're to do you take your to do the thing? Exactly. Exactly.

You're exactly the what's what are the consequences of the medicine because you

did you auto-medicast. Because the prima you said that she had had dermatitis and I use this, you also also do not. What are the consequences? The consequences, one, is that the way, not be effective for you, because not is the patient for that treatment for that the treatment of adverse. No, I think, these

medications, how act are with the system immunological, well, there is to perfilarty well, because there's an enderunological, at final of the count, but it's a system of defense. So, you have to be vigilant much that no, there's no, like you guys, doorms, you, you're inventes well, and not have

any infection present, for that this infection is to get to exacerbate, not to be able

to be able to get a lot of the system immunological could provoke that you're in the famous alopecia. The famous alopecia.

The dermatitis atopica, then, also, also get to also, also, they're also.

They're also. They're not the thing, that's also has the immunological, alopecia area not the endrogenetic

that is the that is for the age. And how we can to our system immunological? Well, the

is that it's very simple. A lot of a good amountation a lot of the exercise. The reality is

that the thing is very important because there everything, it gets to repair, for the

dream, no, the suno's repara the thing, and the thing is a diet balancedia,

no tabaquism because the tabacism because at final, no, then it generates a

inflammation chronic. And we're talking that here there's there's imagineate,

to exacerb much more more more more important to be vaccunars. That's also

something is something because also it's going to be there's going to be there's a good to get to be monological well, you're when you're going to

expongas to this virus, for example. And I guess tabaquism. I'm imagine that the babyator is the same thing.

Yes, it's correct. I think that has published much to this referent to this, but it's not,

it's not the system immunological, it's a issue, it not a solution. No, it's a solution.

Any other another other that has this or that is that being and is going for these those

the sorrows terrible and for the pergues, the frustration, what you would you say? Sure.

That there's treatment. That's the problem and apeed. Because, we thought we were a

excema, that's a piece of a realis and that's, but at final of the end of

apegid and that just has apeg and that just there's always you have to come to

get to get to get to get to get and not you Sienta

solo. The is that the dermatitis atopic and the end up the end of

the end up to make a decision. Yeah. Microdicions in what I go to put in, I'm going to

go to make a commisone. No, maybe not me to get to the water because the chloral

me will to generate affection. Uh, I'm going to go to the play, because me

going to do that's so they're so much are much the view of the patient and

think that destigmatization this this is the first the first the path for all.

I'm going to I think it would be a good to know it. We're going to see a psoriasis. We're talking on the

computer but you're seeing the computer, but you can't see the images and are you are the platforms of audio and we recommend them

that come in the channel of YouTube to be it. Or simply you're not? Buskens or busken dermatitis atopica and

appear in the images. Now, hygiene, recommendations of hygiene. The truth is that hygiene

is basic and always one a question is the a if the skin is decamma, if the peel is secaged with the water

Calient, for example, the recommendations of the same, the baio, or for example, there are some of the can't do you guys, in general, if you're seeing a lot of course, well, it's not a lot of times, no, more of 10 minutes, with the water templated. No, the water calient, in general, you know, that we're just that we're very rich, and you're sitting there, more in in the winter. Apapachados, but not, but it's the good. No, it's the well for the

for the hair. It's not really for the time. So, it's what you do you know,

that's in the curiole of, there's a form of the form of it. So, it's a

thing that's a that we see the that we've been in areas of special interest or or the one of them

one of the hair another of the end end in the genital. In the the

end up. Yes, and the impact of in the life sexual of the patient is the reality

very strong. And there's another, for example, also that's in the palm plantar in palmas and plants. So these areas are like particular

that's difficult, no, that then the other those treatments especially the conventional get to functionar. For so,

the time, as much we're more, we've got options for these patients, justly, that are

to make sure much more these lesions. And it's very good when you see, to see,

the patient with the time to two, a week, how literally it's like that's like that's like a

or limping the skin, because then it's not a social one of the those medications most modernes that are much

there are some more very rapid, no, and there others that are to act on more than act to actuar

so they're very rapidly, so they're in the effect and at final of the we know we're just

to have been in the different a control soteney for example dermatitis atopopica

is a problem that's a characterisa because it's very impreteous

and heterogene. For example, the patient, and you listen to the consult, the patient with dermatitis atopica, always live with fear. Live with with fear, because if I don't have lesions like you right, I go ahead, by the morning, no, I'm going to go to get her. Because I have a bode or go to the play. No, I want to recarer.

And if I'm right at a break in, my fear of, my fearly, yeah d'n't do you dover much. Me will cure? But when you're with medication, you know, there's no, there are brotes? So, if you're control. Broters or the fluctuations. No, you go ahead. So, you know, you get to pass? Unfortunately, no. No.

So, it's a completely controlled. Exactly. So, then it's a little to do it. But one of the medical, if you're in

a person adequate, recetable for your medical, with the study in the so you're doing, then you can't live normal. Totally.

Without. No, the sun, did you say, when you go to the place, for example, you, you're always a soleads?

Or, if you're a base, exactly. That's not, that would be that. That's not, that's good.

That's never, but, but yeah, but, but, sure, you, And then to the alberka and it's

And it's all right And so it's something that's So it's a lot of important Because justly, like we're saying The patient with those Enverbales the symptoms and you know And it's used to live with it.

What happens when a disease of the Piel of the system Immunological with the diabetes? Well, imagineate the prognostico of the patient The disease, we can be a little

more grave, can be able to have more brotets, it can be more severe. For example, the disease psoriasica, the patients,

as much frequent that present, that's other of lesions in the skin, alterations at a level

metabolic. Like diabetes, like obesity, like hypertension, how dyslipidemia. So, agudisa the disease

when you have those other conditions? Exactly. And it's marvellous because when you control

one of one of the patient to be much more. What is the excema? The excema.

The excema is the termino that's a real hither. It's a real hither that then

has been the aspect of yore. In some occasions, use this word of

excema as a synonym of dermatitis. Because, we're like the lesion typical of the dermatitis.

But not is the same. It's part of, we can't say that's a synonym, but he has a

parisks, no, then the skin is the pill is rogisa, but, but you

apopico is when he has this component as we say that the barrera is alterable, the factor

immunological is there, is a thing, it's an emmonomomomom am an form dermatitis atopica, not is autoimmune, like the

infamatic, and some occasions, if you read, for example, the biographia, you're going to find, like, the fact, hematopic, that the reality is the same, dermatitis atopica. Yeah, but the psoriasis, no? So, so, is, you know, the diagnostics, differentials, between both, is very frequent. You see, the book, you know, best, for example,

then, you know, well, yes, well, yes, for the examiner, yeah, I've been the psoriasis, yeah, I've been like the dermatitis atopica, but when you're going to be theopoe, which of those two can even then

even they get to overponer. They're going to get to exactly. Exactly. And there are two medicines

different, two treatments different. You have to exactly. Because there are some of some can apply

for the both or you can't control one more than one more. And the fact that

immunological always I always I'm not there's a word because because then you can,

for example, you cure is the dermatitis atopicic and the patient, okay, yeah not

you know the sessions but it's with a pattern of psoriasis.

acudy just with this medical for that you can't be the dermatologist this is not

you know your not in your examen your exam annual, of your same year, even in

some of the time, before you before you do you have to the patient, when it's

to be able that the patient is is the adequate, not more in quite a

fact of factors of risk, but also also a level that has a

metramat a, for a chemically, a chemically, proofs of fun epit, preys of

function Renal just to be monitoring that that's that I'm

not a time of the medical not that there's when the patient that has to

a lot of a level of epitical then you to do that these

medications which event adverse could be of that any

any age or there is a time there those those

medical when they they do when they appear to

after that get to do let's let's there years in

in the but never there's a time of you know you know you're not you never you're never when

you're getting your legate because so they're doing the medication if it's not working so you're

so you're exactly so it's perfilar not be and see the scopia how is the

patient one more another our right if you get to manifest a new and there's

a new there's you can't imagineate because you make you know other

other of the exactly so all all all that's the

head intestino, articulation, immunological, the skin, because all is connected and all

them to all the time, they're talking about all the time. So, for that's, to do you know, in all those things,

let me know, the dents, let's be the in in the infermades of the skin, always your

style of life, comeer, sano, to get those ultra-processed, to do exercise,

do, do, do, do, your hygiene, your life your

social. Emotional. The state psychological is very important. Everything, all, all,

all, all, all, all, because the system immunological also can't because it's because of the problem

it's psychological. It's not, you know, and it's... Anna Cantu, what's the tariff? If something we should be to get a question, that we're going to

that's all right, that's that's things are the treatment and that the medical and that's about the affections

of the blood, is the dermatology. There's a treatment, there's a stigmatize these things,

because in the medicine has evolved much much of a good, and you know, a question, a doctor,

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