El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - No estás bien: solo aprendiste a funcionar así - Jorge Cantero - 446

Episode Date: September 5, 2026

Sentir que vales solo cuando produces, ayudas, resuelves o haces algo por los demás termina pesando más de lo que imaginasJorge Cantero, psicólogo clínico y autor de El fin del caos y Ser Hombre, habla sobre la ansiedad, el agotamiento emocional, la autoestima y esa necesidad constante de demostrar que eres suficiente, qué hay detrás de esa exigencia y cómo puede terminar afectando la forma en que te ves, te relacionas y vives.Entre tanta prisa, también se nos olvida valorar lo que sí tenemos. Por eso quiero invitarte a cambiar el enfoque, reconectar y reconocer todo lo bueno que ya está en tu vida con 21 días de Gratitud.Inscríbete aquí 👇🏻https://almamatters.com/gratitud*Importante: Nuestros invitados son expertos en sus temas y reflejan su conocimiento y su punto de vista, siendo conscientes de que cada una de las opiniones es totalmente personal. La información, datos, comentarios, estadísticas que se presenten en el Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil, son de exclusiva responsabilidad de quienes las emiten y no representan, necesariamente, el pensamiento de Marco Antonio Regil o de la producción del podcast. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The podcast of Mark Antonio Regil is a production of RGEL Entertainment and all his rights are reserved. In those times moderns, it seems to be

to live in Piloto Automatic to say, Oye, how is that? I'm very well. I'm very well. I'm very active. I'm, I'm very

because there's chamba. There's a time. I'm doing. I'm doing. It's a mal of our times. It's a lot of

many connections real. Today we're going to talk, how to start from the pilot automatic, how to live,

how accept when we're doing, how we're doing, how we're doing it. Today we're a inviteado special to

Jorge Cantero, psychologist, and author of the fin of chaos and other books. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And in the second part of the program, we'll be about the

thing of the masculinity. Me, I'm not. Me, reality, that we're only the

only the people who are we're not when we we're not. The women are being

are bad or not are so not so they're not quite. For that's

that's a modern of this hyper-productive hyper-productivity hyper- hyper-trap

hyper- function-mient all all-mood in a grand dimension his

your loss, your heart, your fear and you know we

we've got also our desire to our It's been a kind of a

privilege to have a good job, to have a good work, well, to have,

to have a kind of a special of a privilege that you have said, but

whoever would be any good job, whoever would be people, and so,

and then we don't know we're not even we're saying, I'm too, I'm

need a space, need a moment, we're we're feeling of We have a

We have a feeling of a fracassau like if not we're sufficiently good, as if we

have gotten our our right to be because there's problems, there's

there there's there money, there's there, so, all,

men, young, we're we're we're our desperation, our

desperation, our stress, our that, there's this persecution social.

And a a of the I'd say a very is a lot of a culture

vorace and and a way of some of our own our own our own our own

to us us pass the way? Yes, although the motives can be different just because

men's and women are different biologically and we we're socialized also also the way

different for each one of us. So what what I can say is that the methods, the

reasons, the form to occulting what we're going to be different, although we're going to

get a way, is to see, you're going to get to women's and women's that very semifante

and there and there are very a lot of but this is an this is an impact

social that we're playing to all I think you you're you're you're you've seen

the face a moment when I said specifically this of you know you're

a good I'm a job. You'd be very content. And I'm sure that a rathos you can't can't say,

no? I'm saying, Basta? I'm sure that's you've been saying what I'm doing and then you

say, oh, sure, it's a perfect. A me all the time. I'm going to talk consulta,

I'm going to talk about talking to but there's moments that I'm going, I'm so I'm

no, no, no, no, no, for suppose that no, and for suppose that not, because it

a good idea. You know, when I was a little when I was chiqued and I didn't want to come me, I'm saying, there are

kids in Africa that's just more getting to get a man, Mark Antonio. Come and and agree with

that you have something. I'm saying, I'm saying I'm too I'm a I'm what I'm going,

but I'm I'm just I'm just a little and even a fear of even a and if this

is a rach and tomorrow no there that's a those there are anxiety, no? And of we're just, like, the philosopher, Buell Shun Khan, in the

society of the rendiment, in the tragedy of this rendiment, of this, you know, you know, if you're not vales, if no, no, no, no, and so, and, since then there's emotions, like, , tristence, fear,

mal-start, general, well, the counsel in general is that so, that's, no, that the pass. The men receive in particular much this

embate public of oh, for favor, no is for a lot of a lot of you know,

the classic no you're, you know, we're not a cliché, but because it's true because it's

a lot of no, no, you're not you're not getting much embate

at a level of well, the empowerment, no, the the liberty

the, the, he, it's what you was what you, but

But, wait, me, tantito, no. So, yeah, sure. For sure, for suppose, that was demanded, it was required, urgia, liberty, equality,

opportunities. But, of course, there's a lot of there's a little very, very, very,

too, is that's very chuechito, in- quite to to keep to give the

al-a-a- to the people for the job, for the economy, a change of dignity.

Only you're just you're if rinds, if you're not, it's supposed that the dignity was not,

no, no, it's supposed to know, now I'm going to runeating eight hours all day, 10 or 12,

no? Because if I'm a joron or a devil. Or malagredecedo. Well, also, yeah,

because what is that's cool today, is saying, I'm active, I'm gratitude, I'm having my work,

I'm doing, but, but the things are good, but the things too, I'm doing, I'm, I'm,

I don't see, oh yeah, not is to say, I'm going to, I'm going to get a got out. I'm really agotado and I'm going to send all carambas. I need a month sabbatical? You know, when the athlete Simon Bielz said, no.

Point. No, I'm going to participate. How many voices were to say, mediocre? How is possible that with that privilege is letting it

voted, how is possible that has been to get to be to have done to make a particular, a part of particular, to partying the

people, or the personalities, the tragedy, the suffering, the pain, the person could have been having been going to

the necessity to stop. And what is just when one, you know, is an athlete of a

high-rendment and you know know what is that is a story that after is a story that after

is a bandera of a health mental. And that I love because if we'd have to be able to contain in our various options at the

same time and not go to get us not going to be always always right, right, right, right,

it's like, I'm a athlete of high-reendiment and can't me. I'm going to the Olympics and

say, this is too, it's too does, it's all the both things, but why not?

Until you you're to runpas. Because, a who? entretien, to who's

it's a time? Now, this is an apology of, ah, the job,

we're going to be able to work, we're going to do you, no, no, no, no. It's an

apology of the health. It's a apology to, we going to look at

that that's a configuration exact, that me has a happy, content,

satisfied, that my body, that my mind, that my mind, that I'm, that I'm,

that I'm, that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm in the mornings without without

without, because at the more I'm going to a little bit of a little bit with the I'm,

that I'm can't read me when it's conducent, that I'm that I'm that I'm parted with

my family. That's what we should we're going to not say, ah, it's a privilege,

if you have those things that I've said, that's a thing, that should be that's a

not that and it's and it's and it was a projection because all we

we're critic us, we're what we're thinking into us. So, as we're, as we're a problem,

as a period, it's evidently, so, only in a crisis you can't runeer and you can't say, a lot.

She put a little after the crisis. That's like we're going to have to have to have been the attack of panic,

no? Ah, then is valid. So, so, so, but we're doing what we have to

we're doing the regals, that I'm the reason, that I'm a better emergency, no can't

par, until that I have an emergency. Only a emergency justifies that you say,

I'm not a unrar my health, I'm going to get to be able to get to be able to that. That's not

not very seen. No, not is very different. And so it different, a little

expressions. But it would be a mean to say that only he's a one of two because

is a woman, no? The tristesse feminine and the stress masculine is not there.

That's a good question. If we about of neurochimica and we're about about. They're exactly

exactly equal. They're the same centers cerebrale. They're the same

substances involved. If we're about there have variations. If we about

expectative cultural, totally distinct. And there you see a data

interesting, no, because in essence biologic, the emotion of the tristesa is

the same for the two. There's five emotions basic.

Yeah, all us, and asco or desagrado. All the five. All the series humans and, of the animals,

we're actually, all the mammophers, our cat, also those are exactly the same. And the tristesse, we experimented because there's a

pernida, because there something that a little to get a to get to and to be to be a

energy. That's the tristesse. The tristesse is the necessity of the person to a problem

important, a perdi important, to get to get to get to conchita and

And to feel and permit and to you can't do something, to teach to leave, etc., etc. That is an experience universal. Homs and women's and women, we're exactly equal. But, we're going to take, for example, a man.

Probably you know, I know, the majority of the men, we know, we've been cultivated to think that the tristesse is vulnerable. It's debilitating. The truthness put the woman in a position of a

bad competitivity in a position of risk in a position to be a victim to a more of other men

more of more than a society inclement or of a perguenza or descarnio fuf

occultal and transform it in other our emotion of election is the enoho

almost we're in enojo now now the woman for disgrace or for

fortune, well, it's cultivated and socialized in a way way different.

For her also the tristesse is vulnerable. And for her also the and it

sometimes is a bad and the society also is very fey with the

woman. Also, it's he said, hangate the because you have a

function to do, because you're a because you're the sustain of this family

at level emotional, because you're the pegament. Also, also also he's much in

car. But it like it's more admitted. There's there are groups that

are being very satisfied with to think that the woman has to be a

misrised, for example. Sumisa and devil to be so much of the discourse

continue saying, well, if you are so you don't not because

someone will be a person to a person to a protect

you know but you can show as a kind of what I'm

what I'm what I'm saying I'm saying it's so I'm a signal natural of a body

that needs time to and get a time to get to all these things and repressions

probably if I'm put the sombero the sombrino what I'm to

say here is repression what the culture is to repriming the

Tristesse for motives different and of forms different. But, yeah, the tristesse is

a emotion very inconvenient of a problem. Because I'll repeat it. Obligue

to stop, to make a pause, to pay a help too. You know, the

that's would be to be to be to be our group and express with our

character, that we that's that we have the language verbal, this is

what we we're we're doing, and turn the sejas, back

the book, manned a single unequivocal to the group

and the people, and if the things were the work, the group would be

and you know, and there I'm to say, there's a difference. It's

much more probably statistically that a group of women to get to a

woman to be to and ask to how is and how it

and how it's that a group of women is probably that a

group of of a person is a person's, if a man is a really, if a man

probably is probably will be a person who are to be able to say to say to make a man,

you know, you're going, you're a little something, you know, is much more than

how times you've been that you have occurred to you, that a group of people that's

a group of people of people of people of people of people to ask you to ask you

you're you're I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm of the error.

Only a man very very that's a lot of that's really in

contact with his emotions. Yeah, I do I'm a group of people of people who

do you do that. Right. Right. Because during almost my life

not was so that no, you know, the immense majority no, the no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

like, we're, we're we're like, since the license for, to express

our more than, we're we're we're you, cackety and resolve. Be productive.

Cair you do it. A woman is going to the same. The woman has changed so the

thing has changed. The woman has to have been the license to be asking help? For the dynamics

that we're living now? I think that license never there never never. I think

what there was a place a group secure, a something. I mean, something

is that Any, any person, a woman, he will cost to express a question, the way of

whether it's not, if no, there's a group that's not, there's a group and they're in, and they're doing. And I think

we're not, because here there's a grave error, that's a group replicando until the day of today.

If we have to the paleolitical, if the men we're not a great

necessity to get to be a very unostenable for the old

to be to be to be people, to be to not you family,

to be to be to be another other other other to be

much care because also also those most men

with those you can robes you robart resources

could robart space, they'd robart family. So, always

there was to have to this kind of aspect, aggerridden, competent, and

the and forth to make a not you metas. It was in that then

for the needs that for the time in the time in the time,

about, many years after years after we're going to continue

being being being to be be concerned because any man can be a competitor.

You can be a competitor. Here I'm here I'm to show me to show me to show me to get me

yeah, man, just it's all right so it was a lot that's those needs

were very relevantes but the women not the so much and then so

equality of opportunities also also also implicate equality of

demandas and me and I think terribly unrater insist

because the woman still being submitted today, to double jobs,

dobles efforts in house, in the office. And you said, well, is that the conditions have been obligated

in a world in the women in the women are in the numbers to their families and to the

families, and then, but they have to be like, to be a world of women,

to be able to be the pass to codasos between men. There are there

stories of terror. I mean I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm to think, no, no, now it's a world of

men. There are many many there are many people. A me is a man that are you

a reality fantastic, defending points that not they don't so I can not know

I can't give you know, but I hearerer all the days in my questions.

The reality is that are the infaties in certain corporations great corporations. So, corporations

of grand number, right? Because not only they're not only are done

that's the that's the that's not that's not there's the person more than the person

more and woman that's not would be the problem the problem continues

the the question a through the power because you're

a woman for your body for your character for your beauty because I

can't I'm I'm I'm I'm because I can't do you

because you don't do you're probably you have to ascend. And if you just you're going to say that

you're going to do you're because what you're good little you're going to get the catawatt and to me that's not

that's really that's all the days, all the time. Now, moving to the time of to start

working, working and producing, when we we're workaholics or workaholics what is what

we're doing we're trying to adorme or to doorme when we're doing, just,

working, working, being productive, and only we're not we're seeing men, we're

not really, we're doing, in the measure in what we're we're doing, to give us, to give us, to what

we're doing, what we're what we're what we're to be, the, or, to do we're to be able to

be a person, but in general, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd be, a feeling

that, not, to be or be stroped to not be sufficiently good. A fear persistent

of that if you were more, you'd more. Could you access to acceder to

ascending in scales major of success, could you have more resources, could you

have less difficulties. There's there much fear too of disillusioned,

of deceptioner. Deception to our parents, that they's for

our career, to our students, deception to our family, that's a person, to beckon

to get to a new person, there's much a much fear of deception. A my father

he costed the life, Marco, a my father to cost the life to the

masculinity of the what? What? My father was my father's married to

the six and because although it was a great type and not a

man, it was a man of the that only it was recognized to us

himself as he a way my father only serve for the work.

The thing is a character that's a characteristica in my family. All the

world is a person. He had also also also. I'm

so I'm much times writing with me saying me, when I get

Jorge, we're to do you say so I'm saying so I'm saying I'm

my father, that was that you know? What? So it was, that he'd very bad, not did

exercise, fumable like a whole time, because all the time was preoccupied for the money, for the

business, for the economy, for all the time. So, first he does hemisema

pulmonar. And then then as a consequence of that's to have problems of sanguineo

into the case, he has a problem of acerosclorosis, engrosamient of the heartaries,

blah, blah, and he gets a symptoms of dementia that we don't we didn't

we're a confusion with depression and anxiety but not the the story about the man not could conceivice

as he himself as someone who had to get to get to get to the to get to get to

not he was a person who not produced that no he was not could and the promise

of when me retire we're going to never never came because one he did

a he did a infart and he did a So this model of rendiment to ultranza in which an woman not is productive,

he costed the life to my father. And me cost to me to get me without him without my 15 years. I'm sorry. I'd like much, thank you. I'd like much that you'd be necessary.

Because then I've knew another model of masculinity very different, which was my son, of my wife, I've always always.

I know my spouse at the 22 years and of this man, that is capable of to be able to to get us to get a

to get a and say, and then you get a little and say, oh, George, with the voice,

and is capable to give us but at the time, look at the same time, and make a thing that

this combination marvellousousa, this combination of suavit, of a carieue, and so, not, these are

these of the night, out of the night, this. It was a combination perfect

of carino with order. So, sure, my son- was made my second

father and I'm in the skin in the skin in the question. He was not more

than my better than my father. Only, I would say, my son was a

man more actual. And my father was a man more atormentado

for what suppose that has to be a good provider. And it was a

probeer fantastic. I'm I'm would be a day to say he's

all right all right so don't you know you know you're going to let's do let's do

let's let's a let's learn a book we're going to tell me stories of the

war civil of Spain and tell me stories no I'm talkicam

no poor all the time atormentated for no I'm

no I'm I'm I can't I can't It's a horror, no? If they were two systems operatives completely different.

Yes, my son and my father, yes. Very good men, those two, eh? So, of really, very good. My father was a

caballero. It was of these men, he said, you're the woman. That's, my papa, that, of the I was on a

man caballieroso that he'd cut a rosas of his garden and he'd and he'd let me ama and prepare

the day. A man manousous and amable and and simpatic and hisueue and charismatic but

rigid. And with a obligation enormous to be productive and exitoso and to provide. There's a number impensable

of persons that don't have sufficient resources for to survive. That's just they're doing. So,

they're doing to do you say, I'm going to say, I'm going to go to some I'm going to

go to my consultory but I'm all the day but when I'm going to go in the coach and

I'm and I see the part of the buses, At how many hours he took a

person to get to your job? And for when he got it, you know, two or three hours in the

transport, he's a risked to you or they're aftar. Yeah, maduged, no desaluned,

he, he's assinated, spaces terrible, a transport public, espantoso, and on

it's got to run- because he's fear. As my my grand friend, David,

Pastor Biko, is very difficult to do philosophy with a right. So,

they're they're thinking to they're they're in this level of suffering they're not

even they're thinking that they're not even that's what you say, moveete

even if you you're you're even if you make sure you're going to do you're

supervien supervience supervien supervience that that now it's become

in a time to you have you have to have to you're to have

I remember one of the moments in therapy more powerful that I've been in my life was when my therapist to a woman

I know what I'm what I'm what I'm a bit of me to be me to be my eyes

and I want to me go and I think you think you you know you

know you you're a more even you know you don't think you

don't produce you don't don't don't salves to

nobody if you and I remember that I put to worry. For sure. Because never

me had done that reflection. I felt that my value was a 100

to live to make to produce and to be useful for someone more and to be a

something and I said, if you have done that you know, no.

No. And he said we're going to be to talk in that all

the stories that me you want to you do you

do you to show to show to the world to the life, a God,

to your mom, a your life. You know, you're doing to do you

do you and you do that's clear. And if was like an epiphany an

an before. For so I always I think the therapy is a great.

With a good therapy, with a very good well, yes, but And what beautiful is the therapy.

It's beautiful. Yes, because I did I, a carrie. So I remember that, I'm going to be a project where you're going to do a lot, no-importance,

an amor no-conditional to your exit or to your productivity. Oh, passing to other the theme, the thing of the individualism

and the love modern. For one is very positive that we know, we're going to learn to be able to

not need to a person more. But in what moment we're We started to cross the raleigh-a between

amarn us and be able to to be able to be vulnerable and be with someone we're doing that we're doing that. In the moment

in the that's that we don't exist a a party incomoda there is the point in the

point in the point in the point in the point in the point in the point in the point we're we can't

a power to a problem that not is difficult that not require a certain friction, that no require affination,

that no requires equilibrium. There, because then we're in the fantasia infantile, because is a fantasy infantil, to

create that exists a form of life in where I am going to stress, not me going to complicate,

I'm going to live in peace, no, it's going to be to do you're to be

my dreams, my desires, my things, as I'm like I want,

I'm going to do my expectations and dreams, as those I want, as I do you those

designe, as me like them or for example when I have been a series

of demand, efforts, then then for fin I'm able to make to love, to the

love, to the family. And this is a very because, because, I'm sure,

no exist a relationship, carinousas, sympathetic, very satisfactory. There are relations that do you

we pass re-being, and I see that the best of a person is accompanied.

I don't know it for romantic, but it's not the evidence. The evidence scientific is

contundentent in this respect. The evidence scientific is that there's that there's the

health emotional. And none of all of all has to be

directly with therapy. The first pillar of the health emotional

are the vincul interpersonals, of quality, preferably a pairha, but also they're also, they're both,

amist, and family, and quads, also, also, also, but for much a relation of a

relationship, is still the day of the day of the day of the reina of the different personal and say,

saludable. Saludable. Saludable. A lot. A lot. A relation of a relationship,

a couple. A male. That is can be, if they exist. and if they can do that's with a good

communication I'm going to I'm in I'm trying to the cynism modern that says, no,

the love romantic is a mental and you have to abolish it. The love romantic

can be of the things that has been also that was that was that was a

little like we know, like we know, like we like we we're

like we not the little so it's there was not it was not was very good

idea. And the crisis of soledad that we're living in the era of the time modern, does know, and the data are right to the audience, to look to us.

We're in a crisis of soledat. People of 30 and 40 years, no has been a couple of long and they're sitting solos and they're

isolated and not is that is a bad what we're doing. But, well, that's a markable. But let's

one thing, the amor, the amoromomartic is temporal caduca. It's the is the true love. Depend.

You have to build the realerable after the attraction initial precious, the mariposites and all.

But why that's not not could be romantic? Because the love real, the the end up

the enaboration, or what in English is called infatuation or the infatuation. Why can be romantic? Or you can

play the romance? For suppose. You know, you know, the fact, you have to have to

a cliche and a mentira fabulosa that the men are enamorados, we say to our

spouses every day. You're the woman most her most a woman. A minute

a tremendous. Because I'm say a thing. For me, my my wife is the

woman and I don't know without any empacho. 30 years, almost

with her 22 casted with her. I'm don't know without any end much.

But also I'd be a idiot to be that you think you no

a woman on a because my my woman, because of the like if she

said she is the wuerito you're the wuerito well. Well, there's a brat p. well, I mean,

there's a form. No? But so, but so so you see to see you. Exactly. When I liens to

your perrito too, oh, you're the real and what's the person. And what's it's a

moor to get oxytocin to the way and then so it's what to do you. Well, that's what we're the

other that's the woman most of the world. You adore. I don't I would

have been without you. That's beautiful. The fact is that I can't

be sure. I'm the woman more more than you. I'm the thing that's with the

intention, with sentiment, she or he has a great that a series of substances that make

a magic neurophysi that is the enganche. So, so he so poin' exactly,

the desire. And you do I'm always I'm going renovating the desire. I'm

not so I'm not so or not, like the aburriment and the routine is impone over the couple.

The remedy against the aburriment and the routine is the desire. It's record that that person that you

is the person that you, has a new, that's a new thing that's a contact every time you're you're

you, you'reas, you, you'reas, you accurucas. But, but,

that's, it implies to go to the love. And that's romantic of a madres,

no? Super romantic, but you know, but you know, but what's a good game. It's very

good. But in a change, is to assume that the relationship of a couple of a lot of

a lot of this, oh, yeah, yeah, no, because we're we're not there's a

phrase, there's a question, there's a thing, there's a question, there's

I'm not you're not really problems abstracts for methods concretes,

and vice versa. Is that if I have hungry, no there no idea no idea there's enough

that I'm to make the world not a love, I'm going to need to eat to eat

work, I need need to work, I need to materiality but the love the love

of the love of the self-estim the self-o the thing,

the purpose of it can it's no matter how you do no matter the

the things you know never you never you

never can the of the medium material. So what happens? When you have a thing marvellousa like the love

and the relation of a pair of and you're you're going to you've seen this stupidness of the women and the women of

the other. That's put one on the other and then then if I do so you do so you do you have to

do you get a stupid negotiation like if we're just we're trying tamletes tamas.

No manches it's it's amor is reciprocity how we're to put the same in the

mess. But at the way of the not you not the naturalness of the same matrimonial

not the kind of a transaction? No, you know, they get necessarily there. If you're

in a life, then it's other thing, but you're to get to do you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, to complicate the separation. It's the only that is the matrimor.

It's complicate the separation, no? If you you're in a relation without

a matrimonio, without paper, since ritual, because, oh, we're talking

here at the paper, but there's a lot of people who think in the ritual religious.

Yes, no, for a question. You can't be said a religion, me cased for,

the religion, me caste and all people always me have asked, but for

what the people? Because me it's incredible to do a ritual in the in the

family, your family, there's a figure religious that is a potent for

some and there a ceremony in where you say, I promise to love

and respect you're and respectate during all the life. That's a promise

of honor I'm I'm what you you're not only only a time

is the dignity to your stature as a human so so someone

can say me what you are you're what you think if

we're a more this world this world would would

have an institution, that not had a father or a mother fictitious to force you to do not do not the only pleasure of

a good person, everything, all then I'm going to your question, pardon, because I have a much direction. Yes,

there's a question, we have to be parted, so there's a but how do those repartes from the envidia,

from the angustia, from the ego, from the property, or from the of the good to share.

A one a whole oya, Mark. A one one where I go to

put all my resources and you going to put all your and you and you're to do

that this does to make a to do that it. Ah, is different. That's

I'm to be protecting my time. And you your time.

You can not you don't you're to get to be to to get

to be to to be to to keep to to I'm oh, that

that's that I'm that I'm I do think in the amor maduro and I think

in the romantic and I think it's important to rescat it's important that's individuality.

So I'm used to say. So, turbo individuality. A bit elaborate in that.

The individuality is a good. It's a socialological. The human has to individualize

a point. A man. A man who has got got to be separated to the

parents when is adult. That's not got to be able to be to be to see

to see the same to make the things that caner generate life and not

murder. To make what he produces results of the

of the good of suffering is a person that has a person who

has a person that continues a little bit more a manned a mediator in the person to somebody to make

to the person. But if you do you this proece is because you've you're doing

you're I'm and a whole for all the question to who's to us

to all of all of the but for the least you know you know you know you

know you're that's When I am, he's the other with the other with O-ma-ma-scula,

that is this person, this figure philosophic of all those who we're all the then there

is when it you are an accessory for my projects. You are only a fin

for that I do me really, you know you are a person, an entity of the

which I obtain, gozo, vincul, interest, and a through the which I'm because this

is the this is the chiste. I don't me I'm because you see,

because you interactuas with me because you me devuelves a sonrisa or no, because you

have a conversation with me or no, because you reactionas because you can

you. And so I'm so I mean I I exist. No. It's different to say, exist, I'm reconnoxed. Exist. I exist. I exist because I exist because I'm nassi. I exist because I'm

arrojured there. Because I have principles, values, because I have a life. But me recognize there in the interaction with you, in the interaction with you, in the way you devolves things. Or could you devolver me things different? Jorge, this no me liked. Jorge, for

favor, this do do the way different. Jorge, this was

incomodo. Ah, you know, what do you know, that's a favor, what I'm

doing this I'm there's a turbo individuality saying, the other no value.

Valgo I. And my intentions and my desires, you are an

accessory for that I do you do you do. It's we're we're

living a one a time in the form in the form of

the and how we we're in the way we're doing that the love

is so important as it's so in the car being in the car being in the carer, put you the mask

first and then the next the first time. So we know that we know our ourselves is the first

before to love to love to be but where we put us the ral

between the love and the lack of capacity of connection

profound and vulnerable with or another else, I don't I don't know who said,

but they're saying that the love is to be a and then to give a other person the other person

the other and then to be able to and then to be able to be it. Begissimo. Because it's

here I'm I'm going to I'm just. Nothing to adder. Here's I'm not to come in

that you're to run per the car. But you you're doing all the things. So,

so it's that's interesting no? That's interesting. Yeah, where where we We put a raleet between the

love and the that's a way to be a pretext to not connectar and not be able to guarantee that not

me run for the because it's the frugated that they're in the point in the you know, in the point

that you're that existir, that being human is frixionart that, that being human is exist in the

conflict, that being is to be to to be that they're going to be able to that they're

to say, No, that they're to rechazzar. No, it's not what good that's but they're

to be to be able to accept, if you do you're a moment in the moment in

we're to get to be that all that's personal, that all what is

a fron that's a thing, that all that's because the world that's

because the mind that the world a world, a good a question, a cario that no

to be. The Deve the recognition of your dignity Yes, you debe the recognition

of your autonomy, you know, the recognition of your liberty. Of course, not it's

like you do you know, and the other than the people we're what I do you know

to be to be to be to be to be a person. That horror, that's

that's terrible. That's terrible. Because, well, I mean, I'm

know, I'm don't know, I'm know, That we'll tell us. Look, I'll tell you

a story rapidism. That's not a level spiritual, we know, no, no,

no, I know. My father had a one was when they were when I went to

and my mother, 40. In 1997 five, five, for when they're

so, yeah, you know, you know, you know, you know, what, but what's,

what, so they're not, so they're so they're so there don't, don't know,

Oh, that great surprise. They're going to be able to, you know, that's when you when you're doing thinking that the rhythm is all. Well, in fin. And I,

and I, I'm going to, no? We're going to abortartart. Oh, man, I'm going to I'm going to,

I'm going to get to the age in the that my father said, you're going to have to have a

other child. No, no, I'm not, no, no, but now, imagine it,

the 50, 551. It's, but But, for other other other other

I said I'm okay, but I'm thank you're going to the factina someone would say to somebody would say to

you fascin to be able, because you're a lot of my response. I mean, it's ominous and terrible, but it's marvellous. The word debitas comes of, I received something, so I have to

give other thing, a change. What kind of would be that we'd have a better with the progimo, with the other, just for exist, in other than to start thinking, the world me debe to me. And then,

I'm offending for all, me lastimed for all, me nojo for and I'm sorry that's always I'm sorry that's not that's a bit of that's not

that's a more and I'm like I'm in I'm sorry I'm sorry that I'm think it's terrible I'm

it's a problem and I think there's that there's there's a love proper is the self

of your dignity and your value for the simple of existir without no matter

what you do you don't know what you workes no matter what you you getas you

the autoestim is another beastia. The autoestim is another thing totally different. The autoestim is how you put that you to work to

to get to the person that ideally can be. And the autoestim is so, look, you know, you're gonna

you're gonna and then the autoestim and then the little bit more little bit. And that's the life.

It's a little, it's aggrat and you're, and you're, but your value inerent not you can't

take anybody. And even even even even they they're like if they're like

I'm talking of abuses. I'm talking of things grave. But in reality when you think you think you

can't get to that dignity. Yeah, no, there's more than to accept. Here I'm. Here's to be.

Why? Why? Why? I'm, why? I'm, I'm, because I'm going to do. I'm going to do.

And I'm to bring, so, it's a problem it's a thing, it's a thing of a problem

to accept and to do you and to what is. Because it's the only is and

no, I'm can't to change. And from there then I can build. Sure.

No, no, there's a story alternative where is distinct. It's what is. They're not,

that there's there's other dimensions where there various Jorghs and various Marcos,

there's living things. Yes, but for me is irrelevant. I live in the third dimension.

I'm living in the third dimension and I'm just irrelevant. In other reality, I'm not really,

I'm a dream, being, that's a book, you're beautiful, you know, the

person, the masculinity as a way more than the other than and the

world of things and there's that's the bestriles to get to get to this episode

we're being a change great. Ser a man, today, 2026

that we're doing this episode, not is the same in 2005 or in the 80

or in the 70 or or in the 40 and also being being a woman

is very different and there there's a revolveder there very

interesting where there there there people who want to

have that are we're doing to the present and the future, but we're doing

to be the women, and also the women are doing what doing what's doing what's new role as

women. We're just are redefining the papers as well never in the history they've

been done to redefine correct? I think yeah, I think. Of that you know,

you know, you're not in your book? I'm a question, but no is where I'm

to say for me to be give me a long rato to to say to the men that's

so I'm this is a masculineity could be the most of the much of the way, so far far,

so, that's not to think that what you can aspire to to be a not to beinous, no,

not be toxic, at contrary. I think if you want to you're really a question of

a good for the world. But for that you need to what rations is the

masculinity because probably probably not is what you they were they're

probably not is dominion and status and competition to the and the gorilla

and so the gorilla it's a true of a lot of you know and the gorilla that's

a man macho alpha man, man, the most probable is that when you install this

system operative in your head, then you're going to start to feel. Satisfaction,

alagia, and the most beautiful of that you're a lot of because the men have a

time that we're that we're that we're we don't we're not we're not we

basically we'regams and now the we're just we're we're not and

that's not it also, that's not quite a good idea if it's

is generating problems emotional is is generating problems of

a very vinclusive. And in certain these groups reactionaries ultra-conservators, machosfer

and company, it may be a reaction very severe to that. A man, no is necessary,

a man, no me interests, you know, you know, you have the cause you

this is madre, then the really, the really, I'm interested that's being the opportunity,

all this groupito of resentidos, all this groupito of devilichos that what

they're not to get and not only the control, autoestim. They're

to sustain the self-estim to be a better to a no functioned.

No functioned before and for course still still still

still now but it's a model common is a model

simple. Now? A see there there has something and has

much of stupidness. Depend to the context. It's when no you're a signal

of templanza of equanimity of calm. And you know because you know you know you know

you know you know you can't you know to the regulation of your

emotions concentrate to you know when you have to when you have to

So, surely it's trained and you've practiced. So, so you're

not you're an instruction to maintain the calm, because this is a moment in the time in the

this is a moment in the because you have to protect a someone, because you have you

to give a response, it's a time, but it's so it's so it can't be

in, never you're never you're because you're doing because you're because you're

feminine because you're you're vulnerable because you're you're

you're it's it's not you know, in what we're in the

moment we're not not not you know, not not not

command of if you you're so you're you're you're

you know and it's terrible but probably probably

is a form very simple a through the people

were when people you, cabron, to maintain tempered so you're what you.

What we're what we. What we're not only is a update, but more language, more study,

more temperance, more calm to say where an emotion is convenient and where not.

But, of these cliches are repitient and these commands are transmitting to generation

and generation and of the point when a more for a mother to say to

a child, calmate. Generation trans generation, trans generation is a new. You're a nina if you're

no. Well, well, good business. No, we have to be much more intelligent

to make a change to the masculinity to be a betterer system of protection of the

life. That's that is what we're that's what we do you know? It's,

I don't see if for what we're not I'm I'm I'm saying that we

love. We're to protect the But what means to protect the

and the life? What is exactly what it's exactly a situation standard

that we have been heard of and regularly they're when I think you know,

the man no, the man no, it's not, no, it's that

the men, when they when are when they're not when they

are men, they're they in the person, and if we're

a situation has a much more ability than I for the task in question. We're going to suppose that my woman is much

more able for the businesses. We're going to my woman is much more able to do make a number,

to generate economy. You know what means to protect? Deharm me to tonteries and

try a place a place sure in where she can prosperer, in where she can be

in leader, in authority, and in force and I put on the mess the conditions for

that she not not to do it. For that she not have a

fear of all the what implic a force to be the four hundred

million the and the total with what that you do you that's

that you protect. Proteges that your kids can get to say

pa I don't get a idiot, you know you know you know

you're you're when you don't you don't never to be

to put to the things to put to your

you you How do you put the example? The kids have an urgency brutal

of that their parents those accoja and they're and they're to be to be strong.

To have power, but power to be a de very no? Poder

means I'm I'm I need my mission. Power signify

I have I'm I'm I'm I'm the children that the

parents let say, you can't. Why? Because you have your tools,

because you have your because I'm because I'm because I'm doing. That's the type of

masculinity that I'm, I don't want to do you know what is the problem of the

women moderns? You and we want to say it with all those letters. We're

men men people in a education superior. No me I'm

But I mean, we've gone to the school, we've gone to the university, probably we've been a postgrad, a master's, et cetera, et cetera. We've leased a lot. We've been a lot. It has to certain logic that we understand

all these things. But what what is with the human and current of those days that are there from those that we're described

at the first, those who don't have time to learn because they're over- those who were educated by the men of

the entire, those who really think that only they're a value for a function.

What is? So, they're not can't access to these values, not can access to

these there's there's a bogg much and is for the the

thing we we have, we I hope the people, I'm I'm going

this podcast, I'm I'm people, I'm that we're

doing this, we're doing we're we're doing, we're the people, and say

it's orangutan tarado basic, primitive and more be able to look at us and

ask us what are here. The feminism has done things marvellousas for the

human and for the society because the feminism was the first that said

this no function. The men need also also

that are doing that's so that those over this world that changed

we've been, we've got, some of us can't have, I have, I'm some conflicts with some precepts

of the feminism more modern, but that's a little like a Picasso and say, no me doesn't know

to not recognize, that is a genie, that's an great- to me not I'm

good, there are things that not I want, but it's a idiot to not

recognize that came the world I think that all the systems need

updates. All. Ditcho that, I think that now we're not we're

that we're to look at all the other people and say, and then and start

to influing in new generations, in new generations of the young and give

good good and be good and be people that can be

referent for them. There an orphaned brutal between the young of figures

masculine of quality and to you're in a machosphra to the videos of t-tok

absurdos that they're that they're that they're that they're they're because you have done

that you don't because they're not because you're in a that the value of a human has to be

to be able to how many people that's a cost of this stupid. No, no, but it's

that's his biology. Not those stupides. A bit, I'm I'm sure. I'm too

of those things. But there are the men who have the people who are the

people who are the people, because there's a response can't be good, you can't be

good, you can't be a woman to make a woman that you want to submissa

is a woman more feminine is a woman only a woman only is

feminine when it's a because you have to be the authority. And there

men orphans that are that they're that's that's that's not because

they're those not because they're not those were not the man who's

the man's the man who's ambe that's ambreated of

contact of a vincu of a man that he says a

way to be a a caballero for favor we need to you'll want to be you're in that's

you're going to get to get to get to you're going to you're going to not me

no me no you do you do you do this of the courtes

honorable servicial that always that's no it doesn't no

it doesn't no import who does do you that's that's responsibility that

is to to all the other people that have to say there's

there's a model better to start us burlling of them all the time in the

time to be people just that's not they're they're not they're let's get a call

let's get the money let's go to let's go to let's go to we're that we're

that we're we're talking we're talking to this we're we're we're going to we're

going to say a old. I mean it was an video in a internet the characteristics of a

good father are the characteristics of a good home. What are the turn.

Ternura, when it's necessary, but at the same time, authority, when you have to put

limits, the capacity to give a little bit of and say, I'm sure, you know, and you

have to have got more more than you, you're going to do you, I'm

the good is to bring a paradoja. Because it's a paradox, being a

a part of a matter, need to know when be soft and amable and carinoes

and when be a strong and confrontative that's a sort of a paradox that requires

to be in a vigilance continuals of the impulses, then when you're a bad

you, also you have that that's that you that's the time

not the love you does the does you're always the thing most

the most more. No, it's me You know, but... Ben for

here. We're going to a little more more than I'm pretty much and I'm but... Ben for

not the conditional of, if not are sufficiently good, then I'm not talking of that. I'm not

I'm talking of that's saying, I'm going to always the I'm always you know, but I need.

Because I need to teach you the world, I need to the world of the effort, I need to

the world of the world of the reason, the a man modern, not to tolerate the

rechazz. Like, like the women have to say, if you're good and good and exitoso

and you're oh, yeah, you're doing with me? No, there's a perr. What?

What? No. Nobody you know that they can't say that. Oh,

oh, it's part of the game. Who, you know? You're? No.

Oh, well, no. The thing of the machos was, I'm

fan of Star Wars. I can't avoid. Chocall it. That's all. That's all. Ooh.

Oh, you just not going to get to get to be going to see. I'm going to

see. Before to start Dater, which is the grand villain of the

series, when Palpatin is the man, he says, I can do the

dark, the side of the light of the world of the world is doing that the

light that the light the light Anakin Koe in the side of the

world initially. Exactly. For protect a his Parenthood Patme.

Exactly. Because the Jedi's not they didn't give the power because not he

was able to and he was not he could protect him so the side of the force

he said, he says, I'd do you do the power. I do the power and

it's then it after in, there's the the of the

those who don't have seen the series, then we're to see the the maratone of all.

Yes, but it's just what what's the thing about with the machosphra. So, there's

these young, men, that you know, they can see the format of the administration pastada,

no? And they have to learn to learn to do those men, but then they're

not being what the administration pastada and the machoster says, Ben,

I can do it do do you I'm going to give the power of the

power where the women we're going to we're going to see a and the woman and say you're saying,

yes, and they're in there because they're in there. Because the other way apart,

we're not we're trying we're trying to, we're to live in a form distinct and in the

side of the force. That's the side the light luminous of the person of

the person of because it's not the side is that we're destructors

to The naturalise. We're going to we're we're we're we're we're

we're we're the thing we're the world there's there's a lot of

a stasis incoomoda but this is real I mean I'm me I'm gonna

get me to make me to get us let's let's when you

see studies of the IQ for example of the talent

of the intelligence of the abilities of the women and you

you you can't you you the curve for the majority of the women, the majority of the

women are in a center marvellously comod, with the few deviations standard. It's a

curve, a carpani- a campanita almost perfect. But when you overpone the curve of the

men, it's more interesting. It's more long, it's less a campanada.

What is that there is that there a grand number of men in both

extrems. You're a number of men's geniuses, but you're a number of people, literally, idiotas,

violent, psychopathic, agressive, without talent. And in middle there's a little less than the woman.

The distribution statistical of the woman is less extreme. So, of a point someone can say,

what are saying, what are you saying, that you're saying, that's that's

it's not. But, also there also many women, violentas, salvages, destructive.

Why the natural that's not me ask you, I'm just just saying, if this is being said, I mean,

the is the is more intelligent, there's more there's more more people,

there's not much, we're not socialistic balanced, balanced, balancas. And the

men or those men or or genius or idiot. Or Hitler. Now, now,

also the majority of the men are the middle does it. It's not not I'm trying to say, I'm not going to say I'm not

not going to say that's just there's not no, no, also the people are not too, but if you

look as the curves, is that's more interesting are the man, it's less, because they

are more because they do you're a certain number of men, they're they're

now. Now, why the naturalness so, well, the psychology evaluative

offers various hypotheses, I don't know if are in whether or not. Necessities of exploration,

of civilization, in fin, be it be a way. This explains because there's

many many there's un-agradable between us because it's much more probable to find

assassins men than women, because it's much more probable encounter psychopaths

that men, nurses, narcissists perversos, men, than women, it's

it's a way, because I'm a stardistic incoomoda, because, of the other other side,

a nobody he's to be able to do it. But there's not so noise. No, they

do that's really that one little idiot, can make a lot of a lot of damage.

And then so, I think that, for the much many, many people,

so many people, so have been in their people, and the a creencia

that all the people are some of the people are the people of those people of those for

supposed to so you so there there there's much there there's a work

and it's a work and it's a thing I do it and I really a dignity

a good with honor with with dignity with dignity yeah that's that's

that for another program it has to do another episode

so about about about this specifically I particularly I'm particularly

perverso at the same time. At the same time. At the same time. But brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, and super, super-enfermo.

Super-enfermo. And we're also, now, now, as adults, millions of women, that are kids

of those women, and of the women who don't get us taken us, we're a generation

that's a great- for women. For women, and we're we're seeing to our mothers,

luching, rompient to the car to get in a woman in a world of machos and we're very allied to our mom

to the woman. There's a statistic that's put very of moda and that utilizes the influencers of the machosphra. And I'm just, I'm I'm just. The majority of the divorcese moderns are impulsed for the women. But for why? But for what?

But for what? To make the decision. The other part of the statistics is the that we don't see. Oh, for what? Why? For you to talk about the decision to divorceeate? Right. Because then we we just put us to see the numbers of abandoners

of the home. We put them to see the numbers of violence we're going to see the the number of

the number of people in house, oh yeah, we know, yeah, we know? My mom

did you know my mom put the because I was because, you know, because, you know,

you know, this sarcasm no, no, no, he's back to know, you know,

because it did not because she did much because she didn't even it's a And I'm

And I'm, and me, I'm, I Ceree, I'm, I didn't, I'm, okay, It's very Very, very? Very exigent. What's exigent. That's a little

Yeah. That's, yeah. That's, what I'm, that's, what's, what's, what's, what's,

that's, what's, and she said, in their time, Irma, you're going to do you're going to do you're going to

do you're going, how you're going to, you're, you're not, that's bad, the truth, that you have to do you

to learn, a, to learn to to support that. Exactly. So, so one thinks,

is that those times are the people are going to be able to there. There's a very

very strong to get to get to the past. The machism is a safe.

It's sure and a safe. The only that is that during a time

is that was unpopular and inconvenient. But unfortunately conforms

the time, the machism he found a form to mutar.

De Mutar. He found a a way to mutter and now present

to modernity. I know And I'm not the only, there are other authors that are they call it, more or less equal. But it's this neomachism.

Now, now, now, it's disfraza of psychology volutative, she disfraza of motivation, it's disfraza

of actuality, it's defraza of biology, it's defraza of the excuse of the naturalness. No, you've heard of

your quats, to say, is that that's naturalness. No, my, that's a sexgo, sexgo naturalista.

to think that certain applications biologics say how the culture no my friend there's

to learn there's so the light dark so yeah yeah yeah

yeah muta muta and muta muta and there there there's a new

there there's a new movement there there's agarran to now

I can I can't I can't I can't I know I'm I'm

that this of this about this of Anakin and, you know, about you

know, like, I'm not they're doing this he's not, so I'm to record

yeah, there's but also in the way in the way he he's not, no,

he's not, he's not to make a matter of a matter and he's because he's he's not,

he's because he's because not was sufficiently very very much to care he's

he's been he's been sufficiently strong he had been present, no have been pasted.

Corte B has these peserousas in where he's being a woman to die and other

that the jerais they say that the being individual is less important than the

human and that he has been to let's let's let's in the thing common

and abandoning his his necessity but he but he see that his

mother is to Adora. So, he's going Joda. Yodda and Jodda. Trenate in the disapegro. The last.

The last thing is train me in the disapego. But the Yedites not so can't teach because no exists. It's that what he wants,

no, the promise of no-dolor, no pernida, no auscencia, no exists. We're going to do what we

do. All what we have us, all what we we have us, all what we valoram, all what we

we're going to to have to have a time is protect him and keep it

and live it you know, he's so so obsesionate that he they're that they're

they're a way, when it was a manned, the emperor no, he had that's

that you're not the people, they're not the way, when they're when they're when they're

like they're they're they're not exactly how an king I'm not. But the

the machosphor is the And then there's a... Everyone's ried of this scene, but in

the case I'm parted the heart of me when I'm desgraciated that me cuted

all, now result that I don't have anything. No, I'm not my wife, only I'm

my wife, only I'm got the other more. But, you know, in your odio, you're he let's have

the way, that's in the way to be the light, because I'm saying, I said, I'm, I'm,

made a my problem, to my own own a new wife, and that's what are

the machoosphere. Exactly. They're they're destruinging systematically his vincuals,

his amos, to his children, to their parents, thinking that the way of the domination and the

authority is that's it. And what they're to do you is destroy all that they're doing they're they're trying

and they're that's the false? Yes. But if not you have worked in you,

no, you know, for supposed. Because seduce. There's there's the spejito.

Look, here's the power, here's the I'm here, it's a woman. the woman,

not you can't say that's the woman has to say, the woman's they say, they're saying to the

go to be and I'm going to get a handbittal like in the agreds. Like in the headress.

Because here are because here the man I'm doing, to you would be to have a

relationship with a woman like this I'm like this I'm a person,

a man of a man of a honor, a man, a man a man, a cablererer and he

put the interests of the family, of his a pair, before the other

that's that's that they're that's not. Yeah. Every when no

no domine, no put the end up not the male. masculinity. masculinity is that that's what

I've described. Mascolinidad is an individual that's a individual that does a

power with luminosity to protect the bien and the life. I know a woman that no

I'd have a person to a person. So, so, I don't

understand to the I mean the I don't know the people we're

we're saying we're like this we're not, but protect

not it's not it's not it's with the force the force that the

that the nature you know the but the power the force of

the the force of the the power the of the that's you know

that's you don't I'm I'm I'm I'm there

there there there there there when when you

want you want to you are and this is prestated a legend

Sen. If you want to a plant and do you do it's the way. The

only way in the plant can grow is if you have the delicacy sufficient

to put her water and then observe and then to be and protect her

and let her and let her to be to live if you if you want

that the plant is to do you want to you want to to

you to make the saliv you done what they're there.

There's a very common. Cosechas what you plantas. Cosechas what germina. Uh-huh.

A little no germina what you want to do you do you do you

do you will do do something and it is a good. And it's to be a

and care it and care we're, we're, we're that's that's

masculinity that. That's that is masculinity. That's that is masculinity. That's

masculinity. And you remember what Gandhi? The liberty of the India is a cause for the

way I'm sure. He was he was a life for to protect to the India and the people and the

injustice of the people. But no there's a cause for the the cause

for the the because I'm goody that's that's masculinity that's

I'm supposed to do my life for protect what I'm but I'm

but I'm to do you to do this that cause. I'm going to but I destroy

the philosophy of the AIMSA or Aimsa or Aimsa, no? How little, no? It's very really little. Well, if we're philosophando in another

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