El Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil - Todo lo que no sabías sobre los medicamentos - Dr. Gilberto Castañeda - Ep 449

Episode Date: October 5, 2026

¿Comprarías un medicamento si supieras que es falso? Aunque parezca increíble, podríamos hacerlo sin darnos cuenta. Incluso un medicamento original puede llegar a nuestras manos en mal estado.El Dr. Gilberto Castañeda, médico e investigador en farmacología del Instituto Politécnico Nacional, nos revela qué hay detrás del mercado de medicamentos falsificados, los riesgos de los GLP-1 y los errores de automedicación que cometemos sin saberlo.¿Cómo protegernos? Descúbrelo en este episodio.Tu salud también merece que cuides cómo te sientes cada día. En mi programa 21 Días de Gratitud te acompaño a crear un hábito que puede transformar tu manera de ver la vida. ¡Inscríbete y empecemos juntos! 👇🏻https://almamatters.com/gratitud  *Importante: Nuestros invitados son expertos en sus temas y reflejan su conocimiento y su punto de vista, siendo conscientes de que cada una de las opiniones es totalmente personal. La información, datos, comentarios, estadísticas que se presenten en el Podcast de Marco Antonio Regil, son de exclusiva responsabilidad de quienes las emiten y no representan, necesariamente, el pensamiento de Marco Antonio Regil o de la producción del podcast. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The podcast of Mark Antonio Regil is a production of RGEL Entertainment and all his rights are reserved. Today we're going to know what we're about the medications.

For example, affect what you what you're going, or what you when you're using some medication? What is, for example,

this is to me the restate a two years that me did something. Ah, well, I'm going to talk recet.

There's more, here I'm the carjita. It's far this. It's been know, no it's

that's a mercantia for that's another new. For that to be able to know of the medical, is a good

a doctor, a medical, a investigator very important. We give us a applause and the very much to give him to

Dr. Gilberto Castaneda. Welcome to Dr. Much thanks. Thank you. Ake you do you all the days to understand your area of

speciality? Okay, perfect. So pharmacology is this part that's a cabo between the sciences medics and

the pharmaceutical. We're we're dedicated to the medicament. More than the patient, we're focused on the medication.

We've got to have found out. Because for this episode, we're to really to a scientific who would be very, very, very,

metied in the, in the, in the, in the, biology, not in patients, but in the medication.

So, we're going to get to, you're going to say, for father, I, would be, this over the

things, you're doing this, many commonly, all, consuming medications. Okay, The most common, and that is very

dangerous, is the auto-medication. I think that, and then I self-prescribo, in the place to go to the medical, and that me can't. So, that's the most common, and is the most we're worried. Why, a medication that my friend or my prime, he's caught well, I'm, and for me

can be done? Well, what we have to see is that we're different. So, all of us, we're doing. So, all right? So, we know, all we have a lot, two the of the two the

other people, I'm we're we're we're in the different things so we're there's

there's the there's those people there's the people who have been those people there's

those people so there there's there there we have that we get it and so

we're we can't imagine us in all what is our our system gastrointestinal

how is it working our system circulatorio to do where we

do the medical to how much how much so eliminate how rapid or not. So we're taking

coffee. In my case, if I, if I'm at this hour, I'm not do this time, but I know

many people that at the night, they're at the nine of the men, they're they're doing the child

of the chile of love. The Chile Serrano, I'm I'm a mordidas with my frioles.

And there are many who do, that's more, that's so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, there

we've different very very far as the same when we're going to a party

there's there's a time in the time of the table. While there's there's

they're going that's so they're going to these examples to do for that we're not

we're we're not not those faracons. These these are not really not

so farmachers but it is a pharmacos a form a a substance of a foreign

that that comes in my organism that's a so is a So the responses are very different

of one person to another, even within the same family. Sure. So for so automicartre, thinking that to your mom, to your brother, a child, a friend, a person, a friend,

and a kid to be a great error. Exactly. And it can be a consequence serious. Yes, there can be consequences serious, depending on the medication, of the patient, too.

Like, for example? What have seen? A patient very fragile. So, also, there is a patient that's a patient a patient or a patient

yeah of advanced that has various diseases, for example, arthritis, that yeah

has to have been some some problems eventually even to cancer. So this is

a patient fragile, is a person vulnerable. So if one of the medication and the

medication provoked a reaction adverse, will have a effect much major.

It is we can do with the aspirinas. The aspirinas a much

people do they produce agrurus what is a grura which is

hyperacidexagic and molesta and some of the cases, and sometimes one even even a vomita. The worst of the cases can get even to provoke ulcera,

because this acid chloridricor romp to the tissues and provoke emorragias internal. And these hemorrhages internal,

we see, in the blood inses, is to say, one, is a baby, and it's a light of a coloration

oscura because they're in so many. So, many patients not can do this. They're

taking the aspirinas of manner chronic so it's the pain the pain. The person young that's

not a heart of the heart of the pain, no, it's not going to have a problem.

So, it depends much of the patient, even something that's badal aspirina can cause

damage. Antibiotics, Cididdle also. Other, that's a other of a bit of

much, medications for dorm, oh, is that I'm not don't know I'm very

too too, is that my prim has been here some that say they're that doormen

completely. And yeah, at the more he's a little completely

but for the time. So, we have to have because it's a

toxic or even in the worst of the worst of the things, unfortunately not is

very frequent but it's not very and some other that are associated

with the Alzheimer that if you have you take the medication to do you

can even even even even to get Alzheimer or even or abutize or the

so you so you have to have to also so. So, now

now, so, now, so seeing in the I went to the doctor the year past and I had this problem

and I recetued this. And me will be the doctor if I'm recetal the year past, and here me got to the year past, the medicine, then I was out of the other way to go to change?

There is risk? Yes, if there's risk. Typical. I had I was a infection gastrointestinal. You know, there are two types of

Mexicans, those that have been those that are those that are so many people have been said so so that's all the year pasto,

then of the year Ivented some tacos in some changarros not very hygienic and then result it all the rata

I'm was I'm getting a good my antibiotic all the year all year I'm going to another changarro

of tachos me will be a diarrhea but now the bacteria that you the bacteria that I'm a

so I'm I'm my little I'm made a half I'm my last I'm

I'm going to come but that's it was for that was for the bacteria

of the year not for the bacteria of then So,

I'm a problem of that the bacteria new, is reproducter because you not have to have been

a lot of the entire. So, it's not really, my infection. So, even, you're the

person who's the medication has to go, to do that you have to do you know, to go to get with the

doctor, I know, I know, I know, I'm a lot to do you get, but you can't get

to be caro, the error. So, the error of the medicate, automedicart

to do of any way, except well, there's a thing I would like to mention to

here in in Mexico and many countries, the medications so the medications. So in Mexico there's

the fraction one to the fraction 6. And depending of the fraction, medications that are very very sure,

paracetamol, they're vending in the super. Some of anti-acid, if one can't, and they can

and they're really, the effect adverse, is very probably probably. A overdosification, well,

needs to to be to be to be to be, 10, a thing for the style. They're some medications very secure.

But there are other that the medications require them to a recital very specific. For example, in anesthesia.

In anesthesia, only the anesthesiologists can prescribe this and have a recet with code of barras

hyper-controlled and only in certain pharmacies. And then we know, we have all the other

the most the medical require recital and there is where we can we

the medication adequate to to the patient indicated. Now, if it's taken, there's a

risk of to be an unyctated, but if it's the difference of a medication injected. Normally,

when we we're talking we're doing the same ways, we're doing the same ways, we're

so we're we're designed to be things that can't have bacteria, that can't have impureas

et cetera. For example, the acid of the stomach, we know we've seen agrurras

some it's an acid very, very very very very very

that's a lot of the bacteria that's that you know, then it's the

medicine and before the time and get the whole of our body, pass a

filter that's the ligato. In the ligado, we're going to cellululos

of Cupfer technically those glubululos are there are there being all the

thing that comes to the tract gastrointestinal and matando to the bichos. And, also,

we're going to have a series of molecules that desintoxiccan the great majority of the toxicos that we don't know.

When inject we do what we do we need, we don't have any of those filters. But the advantage, because

injecting us things. Well, because what we injecting us get very to the same, the

effect is rapid. And the other, there many medications that can be destroyed by the acid

of the stomach, by the enzymes of the ligado or for any of these mechanisms of defense. Those medications

have been injectals for that can get directly to the blood. Now, the medication injected, if

has a bacteria, you get into a infection, you directly. If it has a substance irritant, you'll be

to feel and you can't really lastime. Or if has a toxin, you know, there's defenses of the

ligands over those toxins. So, the control of quality for the injectables is much more

strict to for the medications orals and all the regulations for the for the medicalings are

very pointyosos to avoid this type of damage. So if you are committing an error with a medication taken, you

have a system because we're very well heches, this, a system that you protecte. But we

don't we're not we're not even for the science because so we're just because if you injectas

something that not is the right right, then the damage is much more rapid mechanism of protection that

your body. So, if it's something down for the tract gastrointestinal, what is what is what you'll do you get to

a diarrhea. So, you know, but you're just all right, but you've got to you vomit, or you've omitats, etc.

But if you do it's, you know, it's a lot, it's a way, and it's a question, and

you need a question of the system immune, of the gluoles and you can't have a lot very significant

I'm I'm, you know, you know, you know, you're that one of the

errors Basics is not revisar the fecha of caducid in the pastillas.

The you're the restate the you're a lot and we're not going to

have the times, you know, you know, you know, you know, this is the check the

fact that that's a fact of very common. But why do you know, but the medication are you

do you do you need a super and the hamon says a fecha of caducidat. For example,

you can say the 20 of August. If you you come this hamon the 24, you can't

do you can't do it. Automatically you know, you know, the same with the yogurt. Well,

but the food is feo it's going to get rar a bit? A sometimes no. There's

some, there's certain something. And so, you know, and then you're going to get

done it. The medication, that is a substance powerosa because we record we pharmaco is

something that does something you're doing literally literally you're saying for the bio oral or or for injection

something, something that's not you will serve but also you can do you do many things like the

things like when it's when it's when it's a bad you're the medication when it's you're going to

be to cure but when it's you can't do you because it's other substance

that not that's that who can't that's my My abolita said,

my oldie said, oh, my ito, no, that's the no way of that's the right to be

a real real year. You put in a feature, but the real real a real day months after.

No. The fact of the is the guarantee. It's a a

bit of a more than more than you can't do more. The hamon. The hamon at the

most of the 20 of August, ah, well, well, I don't no

no no does a mark It's that there's a margin of error. No, you're going to be not.

It's that we're to protect a whole so. So, when I go to daignar, I'm to protect to the 100% of the population

that no I'm going to make it can't make a community a person who's, oh, well,

but, well, but he's more, he's more, but 23 million, no,

no, no, it's so, if we're going to produce a damage, we have to to avoid one

only only because are not so the time. So the fact of the fact of the fact of the you're going to

you're going to the carcuiting in the caroncuit of your time before before you is to take a risk.

This is like you say, I'm going to crosser insurgente in bed. It's a big. The risk of

the risk of the risk of you're not so the way you do you do do you do it

doesn't God God me protect God me God me protect but but With the medication

so it's it's going to do you risk is to take a risk, a more not you're going to a lot of

but at the risk. Riesgo is probability of that you pass something. So, better than you

pass it. There's to prevent it, use it well, we're to get the effects therapeutics,

is to the capacity to cure, and we going to the effects toxic or the effects

daninous. Yeah. I'm going to talk a medicament inoffensive that the people say,

oh, no, I'm not you know, I'm we'll see like, oh,

no, no, it's not for all. So, if there are no, they're not, they're not

risk, but all those have some any risk. All those those, those are the medicalis

has done in a reason, for for example, for Celsso, said the difference between

medication and the medicine and then it's the diseases. Many of many times many of doses

badas, can be used as some there. There's many there.

So, it's something we have to to to be very and the other

are the patients the allergies. So the penicilina we can use practically all rightically but a certain proportion of the

people are allergic to the penicilinas and they can get to get to make care. So, we have to use

those under supervision medical. If a medical says your venta requires recet

medica, it has to be a supervision medical forceosomens just. Only there

some some there are some medicament, you're selling without

a recet medical. Well, some some countries. It's like to get a carreterer

to go to Capulco and not revisaster and you're not revisals. Well, at the maybe you get,

if the medication, if the medication if the medical, it's because scientifics like you

know, they're doing that's making that that's a fact of all the government

has the government has the government. In Mexico, it's the Cofepris, in the

in Europe is Laemma, et cetera. So, Brazil, Landisa. These agencies regulatory take all the information first of the medication in general and then the lot to lot that's going to be producing.

And in function of this, they're the conditions of use, the date of caducity, if requires recet a medic, or no, if requires recetka,

very specific, like the case of the anesthetics or the case of the medications for the cancer. The case that's to have

to conserve, for example, the good practices of the pharmacings of the pharmacants. Some have to be in frio,

others not, etc. All this does a agency governmental that in Mexico is the Coffepris. Right,

right, regressando to the toxina butolinica. Mutolinica. Buttolynich. Because Botox is a mark and there are

various brands. Exactly. But is the toxin botulinica. Botulinica. Okay. Or the medications

GLP1, that also So, so effective and are so commones that much people those are consuming

without a recet medicate. There is a risk. There is a big. First, are medications injectals.

So, you are you're not going all the barriers of the skin, all of the

body, and you're introducing a substance extrana and a liquid extrano there. So,

more it's more it can do you do not do you do not. So,

the toxin botulinica. For one is used in many surgeries to put more more blandito

the muscle etc. And to be able to do you know, but also with the things esthetical.

So, it's going to make the arugas disappear and this is very well. It's very

used. So it's a person who is a person or somebody who's doing or somebody that's

everything but the problem of all the questions esthetical is that the people

we're we're to act to act to act to actually to us, the doctors,

the doctors, the doctor, he says, is that's the going to be a boda of my woman, and I'm going to

this rugita, and Iba, and who, who's got, who's got it. So, that's a problem. So, when

one of the people, you know, the hook, is a punialito, chiquet, but it's a little, but it's

a punial, and a liquid and you know no, but when, when, me going to get the

arruhs, it's, because at the I'm more more success social. It's curious, but we do

we do so. So, for so we need the vanity. We need to a regulation, a agency

of the government that says, this can, this or no, and a medical that's a okay,

we're going to do this. If it does it does it does well, I've been a reportage

before in France of Botox so, the contrabando, of Botox that that's not authorised

and so it's not people who were a case where there's a lot of the car of the

and it's that's the so it's so it's so it's someone has someone very

capacited because the other you're you're and they're they're on

you're so they're so sure you're sure you and the problem is that

this toxina and the GLP1 of they're injecting and they're

doing, people who not, people who are people in some spas in the spas of

in gymnasios, people that are in the world of the fitness or of the people who,

so, people that not is people, and you are putting those injections,

and that's where there's where there's where we're we're we're we're in the case of

those are these are these are that are a story very very

we're going to get to what we're what we're doing a what's a LEP1 but we're going

to go because that's the grand boom and see that there there's a there's a market

and that there's medications triselyed and in America Latina that there's there's

there's so they're so they're a car car cartererererer and try to the medication that's in a

caravan't in the crime and so it rob the medication and they're they're doing and they're doing it's a

but you're back on the refrigeration and then never know if the medication is in good conditions,

if it's a medical that is a market but it's a market a new not regulated adulterated, is correct this?

Yes. So, okay. So, so, so, so. So, so, we're going to

try to not colgarm too, but the story is interesting. No, no, but it's

important this, so, so, so, so, so, Like if it's like, this, chocolate is Turin,

or the, or the, or the, so, like, GLEP, Gonsalus Lopes, exactly. Exactly. What's the GLEP-UK-Like peptide.

Let's see what mean, what you're saying this. Resulta that, remember, we're a lot of cells, but all those those cells,

when constitute in the organism that we're we're not we're not sure, so how can communicate the cells

for substances chemics? One, a, well, well known is the adrenaline. Okay.

If you see you see a run a mountain russed at the down the down the

down the or when they're in the vampire in the film of or when they're in

the prepa and they say it they're the oja the adrenalineazo that we call us

so that so that's a substance that produces a sort of a series of effects

for example the heart starts and it gets a increment the pressure

the pressure, the ventilation, so aben the vows for the

way of the way of because it's a substance that

is a not to work to do you so this we can

do the adrenal the arachian the bronchions so

so so we we investigators we we we

we design a for those asthmat a medicament

that does the the adrenal so the the

the exactly the much. So, so it's the inhalator. So, inal, enter the medication, so it's unes

to be a recetorough of the brain, and that person recuperates the capacity. It's a blessing for the people that's

a marvellia. My chamba is bellissima in that sense. It's really very, very recompensate. So,

what are we, we're not, we're not, we're not of chismosos. We're seeing the cellulas.

See, what he said, that's, for the car the car more rapid,

latas, etc. So, we'll we're also a community, not just I

and my team, all the pharmacologists of the world. So what's what you

need when one takes a car of a sugar. So I'm enter a car of a

sugar and it's to produce insulin for that that's that's but

how does the pancreas? Well, get the sugar to the intestino.

And the intestino then produces some peptidos are some substances

chemics that are to get to the GLP he says

to the pancreas oh yeah you you have you have you have a

sugar produces insulin it's very but not it so

so so what does the the so the

he says to prepare this person this person has to

get a a lot of a lot of a sometimes

substances toxic and perhaps to filter that and

do to the heart oh yeah there have to start to let to get to

get to the heart protection the heart and then it's a little bit of you're

you're you're you're then so you so so that those

so you started to start to use for the control of the diabetes function

very and then we're we're we're all these effects

over about about the body about on the protect the

rinion, is very beneficial and he gets a Cerebrough and says, he's a actual.

It's an action You have to eat and you desnutres. So, what you have to do?

It's a need to be a supervision medical to know, first there are various types of GLP one, what

I do? And to do and what do if you do it, and you know, and you get to do

something, and get a exercise, etc. So, so, we're going, now, when

it's this form, the GLP one produces reductions of the pressure, very significant

So what happens? All the world wants to reduce of the one of the great problems not only the obesity,

but the perception of that I'm in overpeas. And then the people want to get that

that's a medical, which one one is so we don't we know we're doing in this

moment. But it's the medication that's the moment in the planet. Because it's

well, then what happens the market Negro. As there's a market Negro of whiskey

in certain bars and you say, I'm going to say, I'm going to pay the whiskey caro that come in the news and then

you're going to a little and then you do you're a bottle that a bottle that is a original, but

who can't have what thing is there there? There's a market? There's there.

There's a thing that's what's what's what's what's so it. Any

any medication, many they put only a liquid that

it's like because the medication sale car. To do a make a medical for the

like the money, it's like it's like like that like that a product like a product

pirata like a box exactly it's a face it's Versace it's Versanches and yeah exactly

but it's it's the and it's it's equal it's a gotas it does so then

with the so then it's even so it starts a and then the person that the

thing has that I'm that is that I'm that I'm that you want to And then

they're that there's this medication and we we're going to start and it's really in the

media social and then so you're the conditions for the market there's the offer and then

then so it's the demand. So, there we're in a risk because who

know who know that are that things. In the the most of the

cases is a placebo it's something that's but in the poor of

the case can be even even the medication original as

that they were but this is a medication that needs to be in free. So,

so they're in Veracruz and they're there to 45 grados to the sun three days and then they

do they do it. So they were they're they're and they they're they're they're

they're they're they're and they're exactly. And it's so much because it's

probably robes or the falsification is too the fact that you don't know

that's that can be robbed adulterated falsified but this not

they're in the pharmacies regular. In where they're there? There are canals pirates

also? For sure. In the city of Guadalajara there's a market there very known the San Juan

of God where they're a lot of medications of these type of this type. Here in

Mexico there are certain canals in Temito there we we've

done some we've done some other schools of the

polytechnic of pharmacy and we have done pavor. But there they they're going and they say, oh, it's

sure that there are pages of internet, sites of internet, that say, pharmacy to pedrito. So, they inventing a number. But not some pharmacies. So, that's just ones sitos internet created for distributing medicament adulterated,

falsified, robado. Or so it's a total mafia. And there are not because they say not because it's a pharmacy is a pharmacy.

It's a whatever I'm a domain that says, that's a pharmacy, baby.com. Yeah. Yeah.

That is a a great problem because it's very difficult to regular. Even in countries with with much vigilance sanitaria, like U.S. So, you enter

in Google and says, I want GLP1 or you put the name of any of these and then you send a place where they're they're going to

something that you know, that's you know the capacity to discernir that not they want to sender something like in Mexico, that not

they're in Mexico, that that's easy that you get them. Because, well, so it's, there's a pharmacy or even in English that we're just. So, then of a great pharmacy, or a little thing.

Yeah, he's a little bit. And to do it. And you do it, he's a little bit of a designer. But the designer doesn't know of the medications.

And then you get us and you do you comep and then at a rato you know, because those, also, also,

you know, that's a question. As they're going to get in problems, then they're in a certain time and

then they're then disappear. Appearce and disappearce. So the form of to avoid medicalments robes, adulterated,

etchated to get to be falsificated, is not not to buy in pharmacies that you know that's a carmacy

literally or be to a site of a market that you know that's a farmacia that's a look,

an analogy look at you know, you need to you need to you need to and you enter to

a, a, a, a, a, a, And you say, Prestam to $200,000,000. So, I'm just $200,000,

without any problem, and you're piqued. And you're gonna do, it's a scam. That's like that. It's a lot of, this is very common. So,

so one has to have that discernment. So, so, as you say, very correctly, pharmacies, or what I can

do, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, First, no use in GLP1s in auto-medication. They're medications very good,

well-used, but as well-used on the effect on, sorry, reason, well-usated, also can't have many problems. So, that's a sudden,

ah, it's going to do that my prim, and then, in the other than injecting the dosis that should be, me injecto the triple. Well, if you

, you get three things, so, so if you're like the chocolates, if you're, if you're doing three, something,

something, so, so, then, there's to have to be good, under supervision medical, me

the medical where, or what is what I'm to do you know what I'm a pharmacy recognized

where they're a restaurant. In a pharmacy not in a spa, no, in a gymnasium, no, no,

no, with a blogger with that also there also there's many people that are doing

recommendations and that not are not there. I mean today, there's there's

there people who are people are not even so you you, you,

you know, you, you, you know you I see, still distinct. Because it's like, like, like all very perfect,

but there's much people who are not quite. No, and over all you have the expectative. I don't know to get to

get a delgazard. And then I go and it's very easy. It's a, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there is where you're going to

get the pat. But a recommendation on the social is not substituted a consult a medicate. Definitely. Although,

I have millions of followers of that person, and is an trainer or is an expert, blah, blah, blah.

No, not a, not is a person to be personally, So, so there are certain people

that say, TEN much care of with the GLP1. Yes, TEN much that you do prescriba

a medical that first you know. And says, your necessities are these. Your necessities of manoe

of glucose in the samegres are these. Your necessities to be the risk cardiovascular, that not

to do a heart to in 10 years are these are these your appetite, to be a

person with a good quality of life, are these. And your necessities of disminution of pesos are these.

If you do you do know, we know, the drop, then the rebote and it's all the

disminution of the has to be to be a little and under supervision medical. For example,

someone, someone is like if it like a bottle of a manteca and

to start to charsel so, because if you kemas all your grass. That's the

same. And if you get in an excess and get and pluck, you tap the heart. Infarto.

Yeah. So, that's to be back of the weight. Of your your same your same

your same your can't tap to be able. Of the course. You're going to

go to a little to. The other stethica. You have to go back to

with exercise, with modification of the diet for that so that you

go to your body and then you is to have a figure that you like, that

you get a good, that's to get a good muscle, to make your muscle, exactly.

Because then you is that the HLP1 you get the muscle. No, the GLP1 mal-usated.

So, if you do you do you do you do exercise, and you know you know,

you know, you know, because what is the thing, the thing, the sugar, that's the

kind of, then the other, then, the first, the protein, if it's if you start

the protein first, you And then we're those people who then those people who then they're one,

the diabetics of the people who are in these people because they're really and they're because

they're not the protein and this can get to give a brainal. The reignor can manage a certain

kind of protein. Not is made a because we want to we want to we want to

we're not. So, so if one one do do you do do it under a

man, the medical is you know the dosis you need you let's let's go.

You'll associate other medication for what you need to or you're going to get a one that's

not a time. And we're going to your mass muscular, exactly. Exactly. The percentage of

the question of the regulation of the person. So this is very easy. The

you're going to put a colloquial, me, me excuse them for that all the people are,

it's the result of what youmpas minus what you kemas, so so the first question

is diet. So, your ingest, of calories. So, that's the first point. Second,

point, exercise, what you kemas. No, is an option. No, it's an option. And, you have to

be the muscle. Exactly. If you do you do you, then what enter, although it's

a little, it's a little, and no does it. Then, then, then, yeah that we're

the medication, the medication, the medication, if you do, and

style of life. If you don't change the style of the way, the

other is the medical and the third is support psychological. For one the

therapy with the psychologists and then the family. So, to eat is social.

That's we have to understand. So, all the cultures of the world,

celebrate how eating. Everyone. So, so if if they somebody

is, with with needs to get to get to the a Cena and, well, they're acaulte

a lot of merengue that he fascina to a person, well, what's going to do? You're going to do you?

So, then it has to be also that type of support psychological to say to the family, oh, yeah,

this, don't let get it's appetitoso. The family has to do a effort to make a

tentations very difficult to this person. Something something, a little a lesson. When we

the medications, we're we're the medication and does things in the organism but we're very psychosocial

bio, what does the medication all this of the muscle et cetera, is it's very well, we have to know.

But also psych, we think we we're not we're we're not we're anxieties and social

the question social is very important right all the world want to be

down because no one one of the quadros of Rubens and

And they'd say, no, but if there was, it was a, to have to have, to have more money, because it would have to have money to

eat much. Exactly. So, being a little bit more, ah, no you know you money. Yes, exactly.

So, if we, we don't considerable this, then also, also, at moment of prescrib, one

has to considerate the expectations social and psychologics of that patient. And also, those who do in the

market Negro, know, and for so they say, ah, well, here there are

a ball of people that have a need need to get a money, we're going to give us

because curiously, not are people people who are those who are those who are those who are not they're

there are many of them that are that they're in this type of things. Yes,

so it's is a study of the university of Michigan that says that people report

to buy medications falsificated were, they were with more frequent people

people young with a major level educative, majoring and combrators

frequent for internet. Studio international about medications falsified of 2006, Michigan

State University. So, they're, they're more prepared. Yes. That has the power

acquisitive for a car, and also, and also, that is often to get to this error.

It's that met him to the internet you to get into the the time of

the thing, and also, the other question is that but you think you're

much. Ah, I have studies, manage the internet and everything. I know distinguish the falsifications.

No, I don't have time to go to go to and the medication and not are the sufficiently

critical for this type of things. So, never to buy medications in a

site of a pharmacy, between commas, that you know you know, if you know, if you know,

a man that never had heard you not, you know, a woman, you know,

you know, so, if you're going to in the internet, I'll buy in the market of the pharmacies,

Cadenas in your country. Exactly. So the treatment medical is under supervision medical,

any medication. Any medication, but this is very important for that that's a excellent, for that you

get a thing that's getting what is the reduction of the reduction of this is the medical,

you can't do a big quality of that's more important. Yeah, to do that the

Exactly. So it's a risk of infarters, risk of accidents vascular cerebrale. All this is it. If you use it well, it's a good, behind supervision medical. But it's not for all the medications. For all. Absolutely for all. Okay. So, so, come in a place, confiable. So, so, you know, it's a medicament that gets, no is adulterated, no is adulterated, not been robbed. No, is pirata, no is falsified, et cetera. With recital medicine, with your medical, for you know, for your medical, for you know, for your life, and to seepac is, that is, to be a real time, and to you. with your conditions, that that is the treatment that you're in that's the

internet and the coach in line and all this there are things very valuable that can do but not you can't be

recommend or recetating medications. There's the risk. Recurred that that anyone can be being

so before to continue with the podcast I want to ask you you do you

do you do you guys you're and even you're you're you're not you're

so per sure was what I was I and Sure, what we come we, important and it's important But, we're talking about with Rafael Shung, our expert in respiration, the strength of the

center of the body and the Pellico that has been with us here in the podcast, I think that not all of it also, also, how we're

how we're how we're how we're and how we're using this zone, our center of the

during the and so, Rafael and I, we, we're just a A reto just five days, 30 minutes

all day that you can't do from your rest of your respiration, fortecese your center, the center of your

body of your way different and start to disinflamar. And if I also I'm going to do you to do it

and the link in the link that appears here about or be a Markontonorrikil dot com

diagonal and unete you know I'm here I'm here. We're we're we're

we're we're going to the podcast. What more what other error we can make. Not a not a error, but many

times the medication, although it's a very prescrited, not a whole world, it will be the same effect. Some people can produce molesties.

For that's so important, the supervision medical, the medical simply says, ah, you're going to do a lot of the dosis,

or well, I do you know you're a candidate for this medication, you're going to try to do this is the

treatment. This is very important. Because many people have been the error of that, oh,

no, yeah no, I don't me I'll send you I'm I'm and I'm

and this also can have to be consequences. Oh, is a certain false that other

error that we're a lot of people, food, let him not we don't say

you're not going to use it can disminuiting the effect of the medication

that we're doing. For the for example, the toronja the toronja can be

the toronja can't be effectors a level epitical and then certain certain

medications can be more more more more more

But most of them is that the food, for example, here in Mexico, what does one when you when you have diarrhea? Guayava or tuna. Or if no, then, rice. Arros Blanko, Doctor, too.

Also. He exaggerated. You're justa're. And you tapaste, as you're tapas. Or, at the other repose, exagerer with the sapote

or the tamarindo, and your life is to be like like the life, is to say, that's, to the time, and the throne to

the throne to the time during a certain time. So, these fruit have effect for the time. If you take one of these animals that you're going to accelerate the tract gastrointestinal

and you're going to give diarrhea, it's not, it's going to pass to the same. It's going to transitor and, well, it's going to be used to. The limit that you gastasted in your medicament, or you'll have to surrard, I'd say to the wail. Exactly. And well, if you're very tacae, well,

you're going to, but no, I don't know that much people do it. So, so, I don't know, I'll talk. So, this is to have to in mind. There are certain things that affect them

also the circulation. It's a really. Yes, exactly. Literal. Literally. So, this is a question

of that we have to evaluate it. And also, when there this type of interactions, the

medical recommend and you say, this, not you don't you want to to make

with a suprima of toronja in the morning. This, the, the,

the, the Coles of Brussels, etc., certain things, better evital them. And then

there are ones that say in the morning or in the night. Also, it's important this.

For that's important that your medical to do you do it. So, because your body

not function it's like in the morning that night. The famous circadian. So there's

certain medications, for example, for the cholesterol that they're they're going to take in the

night, are more more effective in the night, that if you you're

not a time. So, this is a question important. After the time, take this.

Tomate this. Take this. In an anayunas. All right. All that applies. All of that. So, there are two things very important.

One is to have a good communication with the medical. The other is to learn the insertion that we call them.

That information that comes in the medication does that time of instructions that sometimes not we do not

we talk about the doctor. There to ask you to ask you to asker to the fact that the manufacturer, if you say this

medication, take it's a not the doctor or no. But that's information confiable also. That information comes of scientists like you

that's that's and then they've to put it in the cajita. If not we we're doing, we're doing

your work that's where my treatment. That's right. There's there. Also, okay.

Also, the form in the form in the form in the form of those, the the medications, too,

I also also can I try to to lose a medication for to be used in form incorrect in the

house? And there the absence you said it's very well because also the

food. So there's some things that are to guard in the refrigerator, others in

a place and so the medications also. So, it's in the

kitchen. Why? Because it makes much a lot in the so when there's a

so you So I'm all. So, because the if you because, if you

because, if you cook you So it's a So it's a So it's And so it's And when it's

When you're To get one to A one of A cocina Where's Pardon for the redundancy And you

Senta one The cold The cold Yeah, Yeah, exactly Exactly And so And so,

And then of a rebecca So, it's a Readerer and all, and the water And the

So in The bay of the ragged And that Even a I don't if you do you

do you do you do you do you You go You're going to go ahead and you're a sack and it's

all wrugged and you're rapidly, you'll go ahead, you know, and then you can't do you. Meantrae.

So the medication that says, conserve in a place fresh and seco, it's smetying to a certain time of various

minutes or even a half hour or more time if you you're just there's there in a temperature for the

that's programed it's like if you you'd be able to get us to get us in the place. I don't

guardes the medication in the kitchen or in the bathroom. That's exactly in where I know.

Crosse almost that's a thing. So, in a caron, in a place, in a

house, no in the bathroom, not in the bathroom, not in the room, where the temperature is much more

moderated and not is subject to these excesses of the heat, affect it to the time the

time it, affect to what other medications, obviously, and with what I'm so many

and all of these questions to do see them to our medical. For Of the

Of course. Oh, okay, affect it. There's a la, la, la, la. I mean, we're going to do a list of these things

and to do you do care. And for that's the list, learn this inserto that in the

medicament. It's very because many times you talk, the doctor, the doctor, you know,

but you did it and you important. Three. The insert you, you know,

you know, you're not you've got the one of the letters chikitas. Exactly.

That's that you that you exactly, that you that's And so, for what they put in this? No, I mean, it's interesting.

So, then it's these things, where you say, how ammasoning it, if there's a condition, there's, there's, there's many agonators, that want them

that are quite enough. Like the food. And there are others that no. So, learn the incerto, you know, you know,

you know, to do you. I'm going to get to Mexico to, already. At the cold. To,

the cold. To, the cold. So, well, , I can't learn in the incerto, if it's

bad or it's bad. And if you you're going to your hotel where there area condition of

it's a but if you're going to a question of a mountainerism where you go to

a mountain or yeah or being that you be going to be in the cellva there

there's much people that's more information. And also in internet

in the sites of the laboratory you can get an information

that even even even even even much a bus. Oh,

so the Featured, there's a to see her and then the little bit of the little bit more and it's like,

if not it's not you know, because, what I see you, you know, you know what you do you're and you're

and you're and it's and it's and it's little difficult to read it and then it and then it

raya to the cajia and put it two of October 2028. That you you can't be it

you can't be it and you can't that's a thing of a thing is a thing

that for what you arreisgas if it's so it's a not that's a purpose, it's that

I'm going to take a thing you know, it's a you're going to you're in a time and when you're you're in the

car and then you get the caras and is that you're but there we're not, is that you don't have

you're the you're not, if you're you're not you're at the doctor. If you then you're that you're

well, well, well, but yeah but but here here the here the

here the mentality is beneficio risk no, So, what happens? If, if, if you you feel bad,

mal, mal, my urgencies. If you're, you can't expect a tantito, so, that's a

sort of a sort of, so, for example, I'm, but I'm like this, well,

there's a tabletes and it's a lot of a cold, a fever, a car, exactly,

but what what happens if you you feel you're a good in a respiratory

and this, oh, there is that's that you wantas tantito and you

you can to take milk, to take something there. And here I'd

want to a question that's important. The products naturales, the remedies herbalarios and those

these. All what causes effects can cause effects good or malos, depending

of the dose. So much people say, no, is that the medication

is natural. Then, no, I will be to do do you do you do this

do I'm the the next experiment. Tomen a chile avanero mega-organico

of these of these, of those that not have known more than the sun, the

air, and the plagues of the pachamama. Tomenlo for the rabitto

and then administerensel by the rectal. And palatikam so, but for you

see there reactions adverse. No, no, I think no, no,

no, no, so many of these things, because they're naturales, that's

titsits and this, if For example, the Valerianna, if you're all these things that are tecitos for dorm,

you know, quid with the pastillas for dormit, care with the antistaminical, you know, you can't

have an effect very strong. So, is a tecito of Valerian. Sure, because the valeriana

you, the activity nervous. So, then it's really good, and you can't be able to

do you, you're still and you're but if apart you make the pastilla for the pastilla

neuronal, it's excessive. And then what is what is what is to get to get and you're

to get to the femur. So, so are so on the end of events. Also,

the products naturales can be very good and they're very good. But, because

they can't have interactions with certain to Dr. Again,

on GL. There's a GL. There's a little or some tecito or a

another natural or a particular that has been a popular?

In In the principle, no. The what we normally, no, no, you're going to not to have to except, for

example, because there's there's that you have done in repentate, this type of things that affect the function

of the intestino, that's that's if you could cause a moment a certain

damage, or or even, some tests that are there are products that's used to come

to get a because, remember, almost all the medications come to plantas.

So, so, so, so, so the medicine. And many times, we're using

this type of things in medicine traditional. Funcernan well. So, it's there that there's

certain tecitos and certain things that can't produce an interaction. So, there'd to be,

if you're taking this type of the doctor. If the doctor not doesn't know, it's a

documenta. the doctor no has done to know what does it, it's a example.

He's what he uses in this moment. And if no says,

wait, I'm going to look to get, I'm going to a Wadso, the next the next and I'm

the doctor check in a point in a field of the evidence of scientific. Exactly. No, he puts a

no, no, no, no. No. No, the question to the doctor knows where

check it. You know, where you know, he's not the information fidegna and you

yeah, perfect. So, no, it has to be to be to be immediate, because

you're No, it's a professional of the health. It's someone that's a person that's a medical and when there's a

imprevisto that's going to be a solution in a point in a question and you know the solution correct

with the major benefit for the patient and the less risk. That's very important. Always

to diminish the risk and incrementar the benefit. So, fiftate where you know your

information. Exactly. Doctor TikTok not is your me a good fomte. The podcast not your

new new point. Here we talk about about this but this no substitute because then

it's a lot of attention and I'll give to all our people, we put in

questions specific medical. This is consult a medical. This is a point of partida

for you go to you're so here so here in the comments not you

don't know not even not even the specifices because the not the person to you know

then they then then they Not, I mean the same invite to you can because even

he's a not he, not he knows, you, not you know, you know, you know, you're a

not your person. So, this is the place. This is a place to a level to get your

level of education and you know, you to do the questions corrects with the specialist. For what is what

we can say here in all this, GLP1, that not are confiables, this type of medications

that not know, the pharmacy, that you pre-scribe, someone that's a not a medical not. That's the

no. How do you know with your doctor and in a pharmacy authorized? Or mark to be a market there's like

falsificing boxes and falsificing marks of the rope, there are medications falsified. If you go you can't be a lot of

you can't do you're not that's a fact, or is a market or is a market or is a person who has heard

to be to be there and you know that's the doctor, a doctor, that you you have confidence in

a pharmacy of your so we're going to functionar well. No, you know, you know,

you know, you know, it's really, all the medications they have to try before before they're to get to

the end of the time. And then the people who are doing a placebo or they're not the medication

but are the examines controlled, with supervision medica, et cetera. But are some medications

that are not done are not done in Mexico Cofepri or the FDA in

in the States United not are authorized to get to the

because they're in period of but they're they're they're in they're they're

they're they're and they're to they're they're in period of the

time? That's so you see what what's what's they're to start

the and they start to make the results the the question to

publicar the results has two partient the first

is going to the community scientific, pharmacotica, medical, over all,

that there's a new option therapeutic that can come. So, one says, ah, that's,

I know, I'm going preparing, I'm doing, I'm doing, and the second is the question

of the diners. So when surge a medicament that's, the people,

they're saying, ah, this company pharmaceutical, I'm going to that's a good. So, this is

very good. But, there's there's a start to get a information.

And then there's people, there's there's there's there's there's

these questions of the yeah, in the university in Nebraska, in the United,

is a study and that's that they're not a lot of that's that's a

that's that's something that's they're they're all they're so. So that's,

so that's somehow they they're so it. It's then the rumor. So,

then we're to bombardial to whom? To the clientes potentiales? Then we're to say that here

is that the medication of the future or the slogan that you want. And then there's people

that's because the people, when has expectations, can get to be very very ingenue. So,

so, so, that's, there's this type of credibility and there

to consult to the person that's the same like if I do I'm going to do things in the bank, I want to go to an

asser of an asser of an interest, I'm not with the internet, I'll be rich tomorrow

because me will be to get a despolucar. So it's very important that we'll get us

so it's so it's because yeah is the noise, this rule it's all amplification

they're in the social is very easy amplification the room. And then it's just, you're

they're doing, to be they're occulting to say, is that Cofepris, is that the FDA is that

not going to you can't even that you can't do you know, that's classic. Of course, they're going to get you

know, when it's they're they're going to get to know, but then they start to get to

that they're going to do this type of in Mexico, all the what is not is not used.

No, you know, and in the States United of the FDA. I'm okay,

already again again again again, again, they're I'm starting to publicar rumors,

supposedly with basis scientific, although not is a confirmed that could have a benefit to avoid or disminer the possibilities

that you'd have Alzheimer. But that's not a problem a problem and publiced. Look, still not.

Still, no. So how it's how it's not? Let me do the example of the

aspirin. So, the aspirinna surge at the end of the century 19 to the time,

the inflammation, quits, but it's the problems that you have been to get a question of the time of when one takes aspirin,

if you're you're gonna you're gonna get a question that the aspirin has an effect over the coagulation evita the coagulation

so well during much time they're just aspirin to the children because the children do you raspan and they're

they're themurragias fays. After that of a Someone said, oh, many of the infartos, done, because it's formed a coagull, that blocka one coronary, evita that he gets a anger, there's a lot of rumor, and then there's a creativity scientific. Someone, the scientific, brilliant, says, ah, I, I've seen this, then I'm going to prove.

But I have to be the doses. If I do the doses of aspirin that, that quito the dolor, no me serve for the infartes. So, so it generated the dosis, the spina of a dosis chiquita, she studied with

cardiologists and it was that can serve to prevent infartes. And they said, that you took a diary to prevent an

infartes? If you have if you have a infartes, if you can't be a infartos, and now, you've been

as a effect secondary, that maybe could be to be able to be a Alzheimer. Exactly.

So, then in that type of observations many many times are by accident.

Another example that's, that's, that's, the method scientific is first observation. I see a

thing. A part of that, I'm going to a hypothesis. So, so I suppose that this will cause

this other. And so, yeah, I have the hypothesis, I do a strategy experimental

to validate or invalidar to, to say, is certain or not is certain. And,

yeah, I'm, then I can be someter and that authority sanitary me permit to

use the medication. Right, we're in observation. There's a lot of there are patients that are taking this and it's certain that the incidence of

Alzheimer is is a more. But why? Scientifically? Ah, no. That's that here you have to first,

first is this. For that important, the hypothesis and the experimentation. Because it can be the medication

that you think you can't be a factor of confusion. A The most result that all those those people

were doing certain type of exercise that that's the factor of confusion. Or resulta that also are that

they're having certain things in their food that they're not having. So, so you

have to selection the patients to do an experiment controlled to be to be really

is the GLP1 that has but you have a lot of other medications, animals,

including questions psychologics. The Alzheimer is very important. Preparation. Those who

have been various idiomas have been less risk of Alzheimer. And now have entered

things incredible for that is so is that my chamba. The microbiota. We have

a series of bacteria in our intestines that us that are to get

to get many things. And that not only they're they're

doing information to our Cerebrose, et cetera. And they have to with the Alzheimer. Yeah, we know that there are certain animals that

Disminuegene the risk of Alzheimer's. Oh, yes. Omegas 3, for example, this, granos, an alimentation less rich in grass animal. So, less grass animal.

Exactly. The diets, no, I'm like, because no, no, no. But this, this is, yeah, they're doing, for example, in the

Institute National of Neurology, in nutrition, yeah are doing this type of strategies. And then, you want to

exactly, what are the bacteria good and the malas. So, there are to see, we're going to

do it. So it would be, not it will be able to in the future, that's the more, who's using

correctly, correctly, the GLP1, is, is that you, you, you're going to do you,

create a muscle, muscle, you're, you're doing, you're, so, so, then the style

of the kind of, then, obviously, it's disminu- So it would be a medication

or could be that or could be the kind of a style of or the combination of the or the two or as well. Remember we that LP1 were developed

for diabetes type 2. Initially. Initially. And then thanks to these observations, they're done of that there

there's an effect about the weight of the personal and so then so they're on the question we're going to

develop to the medication and the dosification adequate to to do work with with the other

strategies. If you are taking the GLP 1, but you're eating your 17 tachos cotidianos,

no, you're going to serve to nothing. Exercise, diet, and a life a life

a general. The medication you do much. That's the great of this medication. So,

as it's also, it's a level of the Cerebrough and the sphere psychological with the brainal,

with the panchias, with the ligado, then you're going to do you're going to do you know, and then it's

it's a good that the doctor that's, you back a dosis, or simply just you decontinue the medication because you're not

you're a patient with risk. Yeah, the medication to do to do to do what you were a for an embugion,

you motivated, you're set up, you're more, you're in a life more than a more, and you you just,

you know, you're, you know, and some, and some can do They can do it in some months and others

can do not do you're going to do that. It's a measure. Any medication is a tragecito to the measure.

That's right. So, there have to be responsible. Something more that I have asked you to add to you

as a other than you about the medications, errors that you that you'd say to the humanity,

for the love of God, do you do do this? No, so do do you?

Not so so you go and go and you, you know, what you have you

as a inquietude. Pidant a recommendation. If you have security social, the medical general those can conduce to the medical specialist that or the medical

general can also many many times manage this type of things. So it's important not auto-medicars,

to be used the assistance medical. Second, radical, GLP1 or any medication, only fountes

of confidence. Medicament of prescription with recet a medicine in a pharmacy where me surted

the recipe. So that's very important. Tiangis, citos of internet, etc. that I don't know because

me can't happen a little more but it's the same. It's the same that's the way.

Well, at the least, I don't know it's a risk. So, then don't risked their health

in this sense. It's very simple. If the problems are economic, not me

can't for the medication do you. There's a doctor. There are various options. A lot of

not so effective. But for example, diet and exercise are gratis. So, so, so,

so, so, with a treatment medical that there are formulas. For sure, GLP1

are very exitos because functioned well because they're all this type of

functions of the that we have been that then then it's so I can't

I'm do to I'm I'm I'm so. It's so

the Vinagre of manzana you can give effects, not far far as the GLP1, have you have seen that

that's been I've seen heard of it if it's if it's I'm saying I'm doing vinegar of

manse. Is that where it? Well, in ticto. So, they're in sure.

No, but is that if you say, if you're if you say,

if you then then, then I keep the my can't be a man my camis

blanka. Oh, oh, no. No. So, you know, there's

many times and here here I'd want to appreciate a question. The questions,

the medicalists, the problems, the publicas, because it's the industry to get

the money, maldito, no it is certain. We have a thing that is a

mental, the mind is powerful. Very powerful. So, sometimes we're

we're we're not we're we're going to have effect. Tentent

so, Tentoo so it's that's that's that's that's that's suggestion

and me I'm and I'm that's my mind. After the time, that effect is

that's going to be that's in the mind that's a question about can't get a certain

or make you to be a certain but for that I'm I can do magic of magos I can't do make

I'm doing because I know how and so there's and the people say and how do you see you

go to you obviously no me no. My Mark, you will give the best medication that there for this

you have to it's new. Here you do and I'm, you're going to feel in me. You're going to make sure.

The mind is so powerosal that you can be able You're going You're going a effect transitory. Oh, okay. No, it's. I'm

So if the person is Deprimed, he's going to more pain than it's so for that part of the relation medical

patient is so important. Another example of these effects placebo. When I was a little, it was the

worst that was the poor that me could be my daughter with my wife and these dentists

pediatras, it's a doctorate, is it is very beautiful the consultory for the

and the a little, the doctora and they're going to and they're to get them, how do you

do you know, by the relation odontologist, patient. The part psycho is very important. Recordem always, we're

beings, we're very social social, the three parts. The bio is very important, the psych is very important,

the social is very important. Descuito any of those three, the treatment not be successful.

So, so, if you have to consider this. The effect placebo So, so the

people So, and for this we're going to get a lot of there's a kind of a

people, there's still some of the people who had to do you and there's some years, and that's

the things, and then what they were there were there, tripas of poe, of pork

that they they'd in the manga like, and the people was made

that they had been done to be done, that they had the thing,

but but if the placebo will to play a part

paper. For so, all medication is thinking in that's, because the pure motivation, as you say,

a moment, the people is a lot of to get to get to get to and I'm doing a placebo.

And, yeah, it's going to be a bit, but then the placebo is certain, but not

is temporal. If we don't, we'd like, I'd be doing vinegar of manzana

and I see, some other truits for there, the

jug of Dimmon in ayunas and with an water with an water with the water with the water

If I do the same than the placebo then I can't start it and the authority sanitaria Coffepris

no me do the register to protect to the consumer and then there's different formulas the GLP1

not all the different the general they're the and for so your medical is the only that

you can say ah look this is the market that you come because

they have different substances active no? Yes, they have different

of substances active So, depending of what you need to do you you go back you go back

and you go to this or you to come here and you can't give the other. And you will do the way to doces and you will

say, what dosis? Because the dosis that's the service to me, not me, not he will be to serve to Maria.

So, for that's so it's so there are various doses when one when one see there

there are various compositions of GLP there, there are some that have other type of

actions the duales, that are the are the ones are the more because they're done that they're very good effects

in the part efficacy, is saying, functionar and security not to damage. So, there can't give the dosis

or the back as you and if you assume the risk or the dosis a lot, a more not you can't

as well the does it but if you do you do it do you do do you do so that's what so that's

so. So, you're not convinced you. We'll go to go to to talk to do this.

I'm going to take the paper that I'm going to get into the medicine and then I'm very thanks doctor.

No, well, a pleasure really is very important that communicate this type of things to

to the public in general. That's they can what are the conducts and never to buy

in a pharmacy that you know, you know just in internet that was you know

that's there's there are in places that that are well that's not we

we don't we end up arisgazing and metying us in the terrain extraions. A moral a more

the medication most car is the that he not curing. Because after the even though it

had costed three centavos you have to you can't get more car. So that's very important.

Dr. Gilberto Castaneda you are you are working in the Institute

Polytechnico National in the Center of in the center of investigation no

you're not you're not you do you use you don't

I'm not. No. No. Okay. So, then, no, okay. So, then, no, okay. So, is that a proposit we've seen, to look a, a scientific. And we've tried, and not even, I mean, many many people, and scientifics that

public in the radio social. But I'd try to people, a, person like you, a person, a person, completely scientific, sacerlo to his laboratory and bring it to do that podcast to have that point of view specific, because you

do you do you do to that. Your world is to study the medications, So, what we see is what's what's called advocacy, is to give

assesory to associations of patients fundamentally of people of people, we're doing, we're doing with the associations

of cancer, with the associations of HIV, with the associations of transplantes because if are people that need

much assoria in what it's to use of his medications and those

medications of HIV is an incredible. Incredible. Incredible. In incredible.

And here is important also that know their because if there's there's a right of

getting certain type of medications and of some kind of so that's so we do we're

in the social and more than in events or in documents expressly for them.

In the last decades the medications and the other those medicines

scientific more incredible that have been an before as in

the when in the penicilina one one would the the

thing of the the other is one. Yes. What other there?

So, wow. So, here we're so, here we have to the people. The Viagra

also it was. So, especially quality of life for the patient baron,

yeah, of a certain age, was a part of the also very important. Last time.

Now, the last one, the question, the abuser of the antibiotics, the people

that's not using antibiotics, the people, when no need to need to be a resistance to the

to the land to do you do antibiotics. If you consume the animals and you're you're using and more andibiotics, and so, you're, you know,

global. The malice that we're going to die for infections for bacteria resistant is of that level. So we have to do something.

For that we're many programs of good use of antibiotics. In Mexico, are of the few medications that if you

do you need to you have a bicho that is a in your organism, so so that bichael normally, who will

control your globulos blanks, your system immune. If the bicho gets, then you you're a

person, then you I do an antibiotic, and that antibiotic will to make a some of the

bichos, but not to all, because there are some bichos that are resistant. So those bichos

are your blotululons that are to to be to to get to get to get to allivias and

what you can. So, what is the only that I'm going to eliminate to the bichos that's the

other. but the others that are they're reproducing. And they're reproducing, and they're reproducing, and they're and they're to get a resistance to

the antibiotics. It's generated for use of antibiotics. If I don't do, no, it's not no pas to nothing, but when it's so,

then I'm to selectioner to the resistant. If I do do it, no. But if I use it well, and there's

many people that use the antibiotics for infections virals. The antibiotics mattyos not can batterias,

not they're so much bacteria that are there are they're going to selectionar they're going to

get the resistentes and then they're going to start to proliferate and at a rata

and then we're not we're we're having a risk of a pandemic terrible

something like the in Europe in the century that's that's that's

that we're we're we're going to the abuse of the antibiotics so now

our our Authority Sanitary and the of the world, they're programs very

very serious to avoid the bad use and over the abuser of the antibiotics. Because the

only that we're doing, we're doing to the bacteria that they're they're they're

they're they're they're little but they're to grow, to grow,

to grow, and we don't we're not a thing to be to be

to be and then they're going to get. So, it's a question

very serious. the organization World World of the health has programs

really really specific and I'm going to continue. In Mexico at a level of

hospital, it's doing with much care of stewardship of direction in in English and they're

starting to implementer with a lot of the question of the resistance. It's

really that the 70% of the antibiotics that are the plantes, are the

lot, cards, exactly, for because they're for the confined.

Yes, and so for that not they're going to sacrifice and all those, they're in the antibiotics. And when you

come is that, you're doing those antibiotics? You're going to those antibiotics? But also they're in the camp, in the

water, and we're in the water? In the water? In the water? For example, we're just, you're your

antivotico in the cajorn. A good day you're just now, yeah I'll be to try it. You're to

do it to the car to the carmace, it's and this it's the exibia

so it it's it's and in the India they're to get muters

for diclofenaco that is an analgesic those but they were to they were

to be to other animals that were the worms where was

contaminated and they were the but so it's

something so it's something we can get to a problem

what they they are the superbacteries is something that is something that's

studying, but, over all we have to prevent it, because not we can't put to back back. In what we're going to

do you? In what years? Inventing about those antibiotics? 20-tantos. 20-tantos. So, if the humanity, if the

human, if the animals, we're using abusing of antibiotics, in the animals that we're in the

auto-medication or in the abuse of the antibiotics, we can get to revivir the the are a path of the medicine. No, we're going to revive. We're going to have new ones. New ones. But we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we're going to be, we're going to be, we're going to beavocene. That's the invention of the antibiotics. That's what's a part of the

people. The word isvieredero and February, desvuegadero. So, yeah, they're going to, so. So, the people. So, because it was the people. Because they were in the pulmonias and then and then they're and they're and they're like the

old he gets he's they do they're like the for example hemophilus influenza

this is this is that bacteria he does the antibiotic that's a bacteria he

and when one has one has a one has a badgeria then then you take the

antibiotic and when you know it's so like resucita one but you

have to respect all the treatment because I mean I

I'm just three days I'm sure I'm I'm all right and I'm all right and I'm all right and I'm but that's still I'm am a lot of

they're not really they're going to proliferate and is what's what's the call the re-caided and I'm moly because now

I'm there a focus of bacteria resistentes that's going to expand. Because I don't the cycle complete of

the antibiotics. Exactly. That I have to make to matter to doves to get so poquits that my

glubululos blanks that had been me di-debilees, you can't liquidar and they're in your microbiot.

And then you have to do you're in your microbiotica to do what you're your microbiot. So it's, it's a treatment. Complete.

So, and there to ask you to do you know, that some of the people know, that's, hey, doctor, and what probiotic

me take to make to compensate the and some some of them and so that you're talking about, but you're to look to

the medical that's right. Exactly. here, perhaps to to finish to your doctor, but not you know

but not as tontarious. No, not you know, you know, and you know, not you have to and you know, and a lot of,

and a reason, because not you can't be in, the relation patient is a human. Yeah. No, it's

a medical. But, see the instructions one of the time that. It's a professional, as like,

with the other, even with the chofes, with all this, no, you have confidence to the

chofier, change to the taxi. Backate there and use another. So, so it's very important this.

No, there's the doctor, no. If you know, if he's, perfect. But if know, and also me accommod,

marvellous, no me accommodate, I'm sure. And is that there's that there's a good,

and do you do this whole the process so hard and so hard for to have to do the medical to

do their and to do it, and you now no, and there are medics that are

studying studying certifying, that's still innovating, so there, like all the medical, that's all the

top of the studies and the science and the innovations. But if me permitting there's a cotation,

but that can't communicate. Because many people are very well prepared but not know to talk

to the patient. The patient no doesn't know and do things that they're so it's

a message for all the people who are people who communication are important

times. You have to see how you going to talk to be able to talk. I mean, for example,

I like much the preparation in the institute of nutrition, which is one of our maximums institutons. There,

the medical senior, they're being to the children, that they explain to the patients.

If the patient, no, he's not then you know, they're going to get a

bad, they're going to do you, or to tell you to to say, because then they, no, it's that you know, it's

what you're saying, what's the macrophages of that say, what I'm, what I'm, what I'm, there's, no, there's a

language that's communicate, and then the errors of medication. And it's simply know, to be able to say, yeah,

and just the medical, you know, here's the recipe, you know, we're going to do this, we're going to use the medicine,

but we're to change life. Also. How we're doing? How are you doing?

How are your emotions? And that is the type of medical modern, actualized that's the kind of the

thing. And that's doing, really many times one is looking quality of life.

So, we're going to provide the quality of not only only only cure to a certain

aspect. A sometimes one just one just that's that's the infection

of the leg of the body and you so. And so

it is very important then that that So we're going to be a relation medical patient is an activity

human. The medication is a tool that very strong in that relation, but you have to know, I want to keep my peso, I'm

going to get me the gastritis, there are, okay, there's a but what you get over there? Why we're we're going to

modify the origin of the problem? The medication is a maravitia because it does results very rapid, but if no resolve the

origin of the problem, then not is integral the service. So, not so it so.

What's to have to take you, doctor? Thank you. We're doing people in WhatsApp

past. Thank you. No, a poco not is a wonderful to know, a scientist

of the level of Dr. Gilbert Castaneda. Let me have a thank you

to thank you. Thank you. We're really, we've done a very good a

question. It's he said, it he said. If after what you've got you're going to

you're doing your responsibility. No, let's the culp to things that we're going to we're responsible responsible of our

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thanks, thanks, of all person, the people, the group's that, the Institute

Polytechnico National, the Department where you know you can't, we're able, we're

we're, the center of the center of investigation. We have to distinguish. We have the Institute

Polytechnico National and we're the center of investigation. That's only investigation and postgrad.

Okay. So, we can contact our We have. We have our page. Simvestab.

We put us on the screen. Perfect. In the presentation. And then there one

that you can enter to get to the department of pharmacology. There are we're not us can

they're and then they can enter in contact. And you do you

do to organizations that that's associations of associations of patients fundamentally so that there are

these groups for that can informers in all America Latina we have worked for example Esperantra

that is an association marivou for for the cancer but also of others in Peru

also we also we've also in Colombia in Chile in Argentina in Brazil so

we can do this type of, of, the, of the , even, even,

even, of the cases, when they're in when they're in a lot, they're, I'm,

I'm, I'm, this, or I'm this other, so, we, we're really, what is,

there, what we've is the relation, cost, benefit. Here, in this

program, we've, we've been, the relation, that is benefit, risk, see,

that also, so, very, so, much, thanks, thank, thank,

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