Elevation with Steven Furtick - Embrace Your Place (Christine Caine)

Episode Date: March 1, 2026

What if where you are right now is exactly where God wants you? He hasn’t overlooked you; He’s set you apart. Learn how to stop comparing your position to someone else’s platform and... start embracing the purpose God has for your life.  If you’ve just made a decision for Christ, please respond HERE: ele.vc/tIepfr Scripture References:1 Corinthians 12, verses 12-271 Samuel 16, verses 1, 6-12See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick. I'm the pastor of Elevation Church, and this is our podcast. I wanted to thank you for joining us today. Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith. Hope it gives you perspective to see God is moving in your life.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Enjoy the message. And I am so grateful for every one of you here today at Elevation Church. How grateful am I? and all of our EF family. I've got to say I'm so excited this morning. Normally, I'm the one on the other side of the screen because I'll give, I'll let you in a little secret. You know, I live on the West Coast and say,
Starting point is 00:00:49 you're three hours ahead of us. So before I go and preach on the West Coast, I get a dose of Pastor Stephen Ferdig. Before I go and preach every Sunday. So, so grateful for Pastor Stephen and Holly and this church. Turn to your neighbor and say you are the best looking person I've seen today wherever you are. Okay, hang on just before you sit down.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Turn to your other neighbor. That's your second choice and say you're actually better looking than the other person. I was lying. I was lying. You can be seated. I'd be with my Elevation Church family today and all our E family. I'm excited because I'm normally that person on the other side of the screen. And it is like being home away from home.
Starting point is 00:01:40 You know, when I first started coming here, I am here today with the single most ravishing piece of masculine flesh on planet Earth. And in about two weeks, Nick and I have been married for 30 years. How is that? And so, you know, I've got to say, my husband is number 12 of 13 children. Yes, there was no television in that part of Australia at all. Nick's mother had 15 full-term pregnancies in 17 years. Y'all, I just got to say every woman in this room just crossed her legs right there. That was like another level.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I'm glad they didn't stop where they were. But my mother-in-law, she didn't think you were a chick unless you popped out like 10 kids. And we've only got two. So I would take my two daughters, Catherine, and I'd say to my mother-in-law, this is Catherine, and she is my alpha. And this is Sophia. And she is my Omega. and this is the beginning and the end of my childbearing years.
Starting point is 00:02:40 This is where it all stops right here. And so our daughters, you know, when we started coming to elevation, they were like in single digits. And now Catherine, she graduated from Pepperdine last May. I don't know if you know where that is. Yes, she was suffering for Jesus at Malibu Beach for the last four years. She was like, here I am, Lord, send me. And then she went to Argentina and did an internship with a church down there,
Starting point is 00:03:04 which was fantastic and now she's back working with us at 821. And then Sophia is studying comparative literature in Paris. And I know. I called her. She's like, Mommy, I can't talk to you right now. I'm just watching the sunset over Notre Dame eating a chocolate croissant. To which I replied, sweetheart, if you want to watch that same sunset next semester with your fees paid, you will talk to your mother right now.
Starting point is 00:03:30 That's actually what you're going to be doing. There's nothing else. Don't choke on your croissant. But anyway, and this is the year that I turn 60. So I am so excited. And I have to tell you all that I am celebrating every day. There is no way I'm waiting to September.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I figure if you live this long and you're not dead, you are celebrating for 365 days. That's what I'm doing. So I'm telling you all because I love gifts feel free all year. And so I'm also doing 60 things I've never done before. Because I want to make sure we finish strong. We need a generation of young people that can see that the longer you walk with Jesus, the better that it gets. I'm telling you, I want to run my race and finish my course. I love being 20 and I love being 30 and I love being 40 and I love being in my 50s, but there is nothing like your
Starting point is 00:04:27 six decade. That is the best thing. So you just wait. It gets betterer and betterer and betterer. That is, I mean, how could you fix your eyes on Jesus for over four decades and not grow more in love or grace or peace or goodness or kindness? You know, some people like, they look like just a whole lot, I don't know, more depressed after 40 years. I'm like, honey, you could not have fixed your eyes on Jesus and end up like that. Some people, you know, I've been in the way for 50 years. I'm like, get out of the way.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Anyway, so I'm just like, I told my daughters I'm going to be super granny for Jesus. I'm going to be like Caleb. He said, I'm 85 and I'm as strong now as I was then. Now give me this mountain that's my inheritance. I'm going in to take it. So it just gets better. You young ones, you don't even know. You don't even know yet.
Starting point is 00:05:15 What did I tell you all that for? Because I'm doing 60 things I've never done. And that could be anything. It could be like, you know, really big things, really little things. And, you know, so I live in California. And we, that is the home of in and out. I don't know. Do you have in and out?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yes. Okay. And they're going to be serving that at the marriage supper of the lamb in case anybody was not sure. And so I thought after like three decades of going to Texas, I thought, okay, this is my 60th year. I'm going to do things I've never done. So I tried What a Burger. That was a once and done. Now I'm moving on too.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And then I'd never seen the northern lights. So Nick took me to Alaska to see the northern lights and stay in an igloo. And I thought, next time we want to. go to an igloo, you can go by yourself. Okay, so it was awesome, but we also did that. And I've got to tell you to give some of you some excitement to keep going. I've been almost four decades in full-time vocational ministry and the Lord's allowed us to do lots of things. But I did get, I just want to tell you, because I did get a first, which for me, you know, I've written 12 books and done a lot of ministry in nearly four decades. But last week, the Faith to Flourish came out and it was the first time
Starting point is 00:06:28 I got a New York Times bestseller. How is that? The first one. So I'm telling you that because life does not stop when you're 60. There's a whole lot of first ahead of you. And, you know, I just truly believe that it is the will of God that the body of Christ begins to flourish again. And, you know, we dive deep into the life of the olive tree
Starting point is 00:06:50 because I was reading Psalm 52 verse 8. And David, in the midst of his darkest hour, there was so much adversity. He was, Saul was chasing him to kill him. Doeg was after him. There was so much betrayal and lies and slander and gossip and darkness. And he was in fear of his physical life. And yet in the midst of it, he said, but I am like a flower, a green olive tree
Starting point is 00:07:15 flourishing in the house of God. And he was speaking of his deliverance and his state, regardless of his external circumstances. And I was standing, we have an A21 office. in Athens in Greece. And I was taking a team there. We went up to the top of the Acropolis to see the Parthenon, and it's barren and it's arid and it's dry. And everything, it was in the middle of the,
Starting point is 00:07:39 there had been great fires in Athens. There was a great heat wave. And there was no other trees that were alive. There was nothing. There was no vegetation. And there was this one, and if you go up to the Parthenon, you'll see it, this sacred olive tree. And here in the midst of barrenness,
Starting point is 00:07:56 here in the midst of a place where nothing else is growing, there is this green olive tree whose root system goes deep that is flourishing and thriving and producing fruit and producing an ecosystem and keeping other things alive and giving them shelter and producing oil. And I sat there and I went to eight countries, went to visit olive farms on eight different countries, talk to the owners of olive farms to see.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I have nerded out so much. I know more about olive trees, olive oil, olive branch. and olives than you would ever want, but I'm Greek. And so if you've seen my big fat Greek wedding, that is my big fat Greek life. You had milk in your baby bottle, I had olive oil. And so the issue is out of that, that an olive tree grows where nothing else grows and continues to breed life. And in scripture, there are over 200 references to olive trees, olive oil, olive branches.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And I think in this hour where our world is so chaotic, it's so full of division, it's so full of fear, it's so full of darkness and economic instability and political instability and moral instability and sociological instability, we, the Church of Jesus Christ, need to be like a green olive tree flourishing and producing life. And it will be one of the greatest witnesses to our generation if we would dare do that. So I was excited about writing that message and I'm believing to equip us to do it. And I'm also want to say thank you to every one of you because Elevation Church is such a key partner church right from day one of 821. And I just want to testify because so many of you, especially during Love Week,
Starting point is 00:09:31 you are involved in packing packages at our, we've got an office here in Charlotte and so many of, so much of what you pack goes to survivors. Like we go out with law enforcement when there are raids done and when there are operations done and sometimes we're the first port of contact with victims and survivors. and because of your giving and because of your generosity, we are able to give packs that bring dignity to the women and the children right in those moments of crisis. But I do want to tell you because there's a case that we've been working on for nine years.
Starting point is 00:10:08 This is how long it takes. Nine years. And last week, the guy from Charlotte that had trafficked multiple women across 51 cities, 15 states, we put him away for 35 years. How is that? right here in Charlotte, North Carolina. So that is what your giving is doing. And so I am so, so grateful I could keep you here and tell you story after story.
Starting point is 00:10:33 But I told you we've been married 30 years in March. And Nick and I, I mean, he's from an English-Irish background. I'm from a Greek background, so I'm demonstrative in every way. My inside voice is my outside voice, is my every voice. And Nick is like Christine, I am. I'm excited in worship. My big toe is moving in my shoe, you know, so, and I'm like in orbit. Like, who am I?
Starting point is 00:10:58 I'm like, I nearly was up there through the sky today. And so, but I'm also meticulous. He would say borderline OCD. Anyway, I'm very meticulous. And we have a mantra in our house. Since my girls were like, came in utero. We had a mantra and we would say, and I would say, girls, there is a place for everything and everything has a place.
Starting point is 00:11:25 See, you're just like me. But Nick, Nick is of the opinion that there are many potential places for every one thing. And let me just say that over 30 years, there have been some, not many, but frequent, times of intense fellowship over which one of the many places? Nick's keys may have been in, and if we just put them in the one place, we would have avoided. There would have been much more fruit of the spirit in our household. He believes that the Lord sent him into my life for sanctification, for an additional layer of sanctification. But I always think it's really good if we just put things in their place.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I mean, it takes as much effort to put it in the right place as the wrong place. And anyway, I'm going to not help a lot of marriages right now, so we're not going to, I'm watching nudging happening and heads moving. But I do have to say that after almost four decades of serving Jesus, it is nice when God agrees with you. And so in my quiet time when I came across 1 Corinthians chapter 12, I needed to take it to Nick to show him that God and I were in the same place. We were on the same page when it comes to the fact that there is a place for everything.
Starting point is 00:12:45 and I had to dig into the 1984 NIV version. Today we have come to real church here at elevation to pull out 1 Corinthians chapter 12 verses 12 to 27. I'm going to read this to you. This is the word of the Lord. The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts. And though all its parts are many, they form one body.
Starting point is 00:13:08 So it is with Christ. For we are all, sorry, for we were all baptized. by one spirit into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free, and we were all given the one spirit to drink. Now, the body is not made up of one part, but of many. If the foot should say, because I'm not a hand, I do not belong to the body, it would not, for that reason, cease to be part of the body.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And if the ear should say, because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body, it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? But in fact, God has arranged the parts of the body, every one of them just as he wanted them to be. If they were all one part, where would the body be?
Starting point is 00:14:09 as it is, there are many parts but one body. The eye cannot say to the hand, I don't need you. And the head cannot say to the feet, I don't need you. On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable. And the parts we think are less honourable we treat with special honour. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty. While our presentable parts need no special treatment. but God has combined the members of the body
Starting point is 00:14:40 and has given greater honour to the parts that lacked it so that there should be no division in the body but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. If one part suffers, every part suffers with it. If one part is on it, every part rejoices with it. Now you are the body of Christ and each one of you is a part of it. I love this portion of scripture.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Paul was writing to the church in Corinth, who was incredibly divided, especially in the way that they were ranking the value of spiritual gifts. And so the fact is that they were thinking that the more visible gifts and that they were the more important gifts, the more spectacular, especially when it came to the charismatic gifts,
Starting point is 00:15:33 oh, they have to be the more important gifts. So what that was causing was division and hierarchy. And yet God had set every part of the body in place just as he saw fit. He has a place for every single part. There's no hierarchy. It doesn't rank as important because there's only one body. Indwelling by the Holy Spirit of God. And there's only one head on this body.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And his name is King Jesus. He is the head of his body and every other part. Every other part has a very important place to play in the body of Christ. Now what happens is in our culture that so elevates visibility and confuses prominence and visibility with significance, we end up having a problem in the church. Because culture says if you have more followers, you're more important. If you're a greatest celebrity and more people know your name,
Starting point is 00:16:33 somehow you are more important. or you have greater influence so you are more important. That's not how the body works. Just because someone, you today, you see me here on this platform in the eyes of God and in the church of God and in the body of Christ, I am no more important than any other part of the body because God sets every member in place in his body.
Starting point is 00:16:59 It's actually his body. But we can bring into our country, commitment to the Lord the same thinking that the world has, i.e. we confuse visibility with significance. We confuse reach and being known with significance to God. But here in this passage, Paul says there's not one part that's dispensable. There's not one single part of the body of Christ that is not an important part and doesn't have a place in the body. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean that they are in any way of any less value. Now the fact is, you see me here, you see the worship team here, Pastor Jonathan today. But before we even
Starting point is 00:17:49 woke up this morning, there was people that were getting up and praying for all of our locations, for our eFAM, for all of our services, people that nobody even has ever seen, you don't know their names. There are people working in the parking lot that are getting ready that that are directing traffic. There are people right now with our children teaching them about the importance of the word of God. People that are teaching our teenagers. There are people that are working the sound and the light and people that are working the scriptures going up on screen or making sure that there is connection for eFAM. You can't see any of them, but let me just say, if this microphone went off, we would all suffer.
Starting point is 00:18:37 If one part suffers, everyone suffers. If there was no one to turn the lights on, if there was no one that was praying, if there was no one that was serving our children or our kids or in the parking lot, then we would all suffer. But what happens is we've learned to think that the only thing that matters in the body is the prominent positions,
Starting point is 00:18:58 and somehow that prominence is more significant to God. but God says it's my body and I set every member in place in my body. God sets the members in place. Now, you know, it's so interesting. And I don't think we understand really the value of what it means that if one part suffers, every part suffers. A few years ago, you know, really when we moved to America, I went skiing for almost the first time in my life.
Starting point is 00:19:28 What had happened is I'm from a Greek background. And church, you have to understand that Greeks, a fatalist. By that I mean, it does not matter how bad things are. They can always get worse with a Greek family. And so I grew up in a Greek home where my mother would always say, Christina, we speak Greek is my first language, and we have Windex in every room of the house. And so she goes, Christina, you can't go skiing. Because if you go skiing, you will die. There was no possibility you could go skiing and ski. It was like ski equals death. So when we finally move, to America. I felt like I was a 14-hour plane right away from my Greek mother. I know I was
Starting point is 00:20:08 45, but I was still scared of her. So it was like, okay, I can now do what I want finally. And so these five families from Louisiana invited us to go skiing in Colorado. Now, this was during the Winter Olympics. And I know I'm from Australia so I could surf. I thought surfing and skiing were the same thing. They're not in case you're wondering. And so I'm thinking this is going to be easy. So what I would do church is I would watch the Winter Olympics at night like we just have. And then I would get up in the morning and think, I am representing Australia. I am representing Australia. The fact that I didn't know what I was doing was incidental. So, you know, all the guys would be on these like double black diamond suicide runs and I would have to go to the green slopes with the two-year-olds that were
Starting point is 00:20:58 just learning how to ski. So there was all the two-year-olds and Christine, well this one day, I said to my husband, I go, Nick, I want you to come with me and the guys who had this great run. And so, you know, he by then had been married for more than a minute. And any man that's been married for more than a minute knows that if your wife ever asks you to do anything, like, would you want to go on the black double diamond slopes with your friends or come on the green flat slopes with me and the two-year-olds? If you kind of wanted any action that night, you would come to the thing with your wife. I'm just putting it out there in the atmosphere. So, married.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I did say married. And so Nick came with me and I go to him, babe, if you are with the guys right now, you wouldn't be having any more fun, would you? One would think. But my husband, being a man of integrity, not only said, yes, this is what he said. He goes, babe, if I was with the guys right now,
Starting point is 00:21:56 I would be having much more, much more fun. Okay, now that is like putting a red rag in front of a ball. So I went, I looked and there was like this blue run just over there. So I turned my skis down. Famous last words, I look over my shoulder and I say to him, well, sweetheart, eat my snow. And off I go. Now, Church, I knew I was in serious trouble.
Starting point is 00:22:26 About 20 seconds later on my second somersault that was not planned. That was not planned. one ski went flying and then on my right leg I heard the loudest pop pop pop you're there that I've heard and I snapped my ACL tore my MCL tore my meniscus fractured my knee it was all I was lying there I was like I couldn't move Nick had to call the ski patrol you know when they put you like in that coffin and take you down the mountain and you go down that was me and I do need to tell you this because I'm Greek I would leave the house all of my years that I lived around, my mother would go,
Starting point is 00:23:04 Christina, to which I would say, Mum, why? Because Christina, if you're important that you've got good underwear, anyone else's mother? Elevation, you are my people. And so, anyway, you know, for the sake of Sunday morning decorum, I won't go into detail, but all I'm going to say to you is as they were elevating me and putting me into the ambulance, I'm just going to say this, my mother was right.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Anyway, so in the midst of all of that, I ended up having to have a hamstring graft and, you know, had to go through major, major rehab. And, you know, I wanted to relive that this morning. So I've got my friend here who's going to come and show you how I had to walk around for quite a while. Look at this. Let's see how you go. Oh, yes, look at this. Come on.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Is this not just skills? I want you to come and stand over here with me. You are so tall. And the crutches are the wrong size, but that's okay. Look, these crutches are right for me, not a six foot seven giant. Okay, there we go. But this is what happened. In this knee, I have, and you have, an ACL.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Now, before my accident, I didn't even know if I had an ABCD, EFG, HIG. I didn't even know that I had an ACL or XYZ. An ACL is a ligament that is smaller than this little finger tucked in at the back of your knee. I think we've got a photo of it that you're going to see right now. See that. I hope you don't get nauseous. See that ACL tucked in right there.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I snapped that thing and when I snapped it, I was in the most excruciating pain. I could barely function for weeks. I couldn't think straight. The pain was so great. And then when I had my surgery, I had to walk around and for a long time with a brace because this part of my body could not bear the weight. So this part of the body had to overcompensate for one small ligament that had snapped. One small ligament that had been displaced.
Starting point is 00:25:38 A ligament that I did not even know. existed in my body. Because that did not embrace its place and it became displaced, it crippled and apparelized the functioning of my entire body. Thanks, mate. And what happens in church, we think, well, it doesn't really matter if I'm not up in front. You can even go down the stairs. How's that? You are a ledge and he's like, okay, now I'm limping. We think does it really matter? And is teaching the kids really important? Is parking the car is really important? Is working in production really important. Well, nobody will ever see me and it doesn't matter. The scripture says it's the unseen parts that often hold the whole thing together and just because you don't know
Starting point is 00:26:21 they're there doesn't mean that God doesn't. That ACL, I ended up having to have a hamstring graft because I am so grateful when the doctor went in to find my hamstring that my hamstring didn't say my hamstring, I'm glad it was there. I'm glad that it didn't decide the week before. I don't want to be a hamstring anymore. I don't like the hamstring. I don't get any attention. It's what gets all the attention.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I'm just this overlooked hamstring. I'm just taken for granted as a hamstring. Nobody recognized my value as a hamstring. So glad that my hamstring was in place. Because every now and again a transplant has to happen but when you try to force that transplant because you don't like your place, then sometimes you can be rejected by the body in that part of the transplant. And we've got a whole lot of people running around in the body of Christ,
Starting point is 00:27:26 just transplanting themselves, but just like a physical body doesn't accept, doesn't accept every organ as a transplant or every muscle or every sine you in order to be able to be transplanted properly. There's an order. There's an order. The church is not the NFL. It's not like we have free agents.
Starting point is 00:27:47 God sets every member in place. And if God wants to transplant, then the body will take the transplant. But I'm so glad that my hamstring was in place, but you and I are living in a culture where we value a position over a place. And so many people have sacrificed their destiny on the altar of a position they wanted
Starting point is 00:28:07 because they wouldn't embrace the place that God had for them. So many of us. because in our culture, visibility and position and title and hierarchy. And the Lord's like, I've got a body, there is nothing more sacred than the holy body of the Lord Jesus Christ. And we are part of that body and he sets us in place. Does that not mean at some point he might transplant us? Of course. It's his body.
Starting point is 00:28:35 But when we start thinking, we're like free agents. And I could just go, I don't want to be an elbow. like an elbow because the knee gets all the attention. And Paul goes through the list, he goes, how ridiculous that you would compare this part to that part? I think we should all just be grateful that God has brought us into his body. I wouldn't care if I was an ACL, an MCL, if I was a sine you or a tissue or a muscle, thankful to be part of the body. I'm just grateful to be any part of the body of Christ. When was the last time you thanked God in his body? In his body, if there's only one head.
Starting point is 00:29:25 If we understood that, we'd all embrace our place. Elevation, you are one of the most potent apostolic churches on the earth right now. Imagine how much more powerful you'd be if every single person embrace their place. Every single person said, I don't care if I'm an ACL or an MCL. I'm going to hold up my part of the body. I'm going to take my place in all of our locations, our e-fam. I'm going to embrace my place. Every time you tithe, every time you tithe, every time you're.
Starting point is 00:29:53 give every time you serve, you are embracing your place. Some people go, well, okay, Christina, I've got these dreams in my heart. What about all these things? Well, this is what I've discovered after almost four decades of serving Jesus. When God is looking to promote you to another position, he goes to a place. He goes to the place that you're supposed to be. To find you, you go, Christine, give me Bible. I'll give you some Bible. David, 1 Samuel 16. I want you to see verse one. It says, the Lord said to Samuel, how long are you going to mourn for Saul
Starting point is 00:30:26 since I have rejected him as king over Israel? Fill your horn with oil and go. I am sending you. See, God does the sending. You don't have to mark it to yourself when you've been marked by God. You don't have to market yourself. If God has assigned you, God will find you.
Starting point is 00:30:44 You can be not even in this room right now and serving in the nursery and if God's anointed you to be the next Billy Graham to America, he'll find you. He'll find you. He says, I am sending you to Jesse of Bethlehem because I have selected for myself. Remember this is God's deal. I've selected for myself a king from his sons. Let's go to verse six. It says in verse six, when they arrived, Samuel saw Elieab and said, certainly the Lord's anointed one is here before him. Now, the reason he thought that is because Eelab looked a lot like Saul, head and shoulders above the rest, good looking, he was a warrior,
Starting point is 00:31:27 and the prophet, I want you to catch this, the prophet, surely this is the Lord's anointed, because he saw Elyab and thought, that's what we do, we scroll through social media, we are surely that's who God's picked. Look at their followers, man, they're blowing up. That's awesome. Surely that's the Lord's anointed. And then I love what the Lord says in verse 7. But the Lord said to Samuel and thus he says to most of us,
Starting point is 00:31:55 do not look at his appearance or his stature because I have rejected him. Honey, it doesn't matter how many likes you get if God has rejected him. Humans do not see what the Lord sees. For humans see what is visible. But the Lord sees the heart. He goes on in verse 8 and says Jesse called Abinadab and presented him to Samuel. Oh Lord, the Lord hasn't chosen this one either, Samuel said. So now the parade's going.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Let's get out our TikTok and our Instagram and start going through verse 9, and we'll just keep going. Then Jesse presented Shama. Here's the next one. Next little celebrity Christian influencer. But Samuel said, the Lord hasn't chosen this one either. You keep posting. Lord hasn't chosen after Jesse presented seven of his sons.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Great marketing campaign. Man, I need to be in the right place so that the right person in leadership sees me, because that's how I'm going to get my promotion. Man, if I'm serving down in the kids or I'm out in the parking lot, how's anyone going to see my gift? And I mean, I want to go on tour with the band. How are they going to see my gift if I'm serving over in the kids? They're never going to see it.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I'm never going to be discovered. God created you. He doesn't have to discover you. He already knows where you are. You don't have to wait to be discovered by God. He created you. after Jesse presented seven of his sons to him. Just sounds like the world we live in.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Samuel told Jesse, the Lord hasn't chosen any of these. Samuel asked him, are these, all the sons you have? They're still the youngest. I am laughing because this is how King David first appears on the pages of scripture. No name. The youngest. You know, yeah, there's a guy working out in the parking lot. There's that person that's running the prayer team.
Starting point is 00:33:55 There's someone that's running an e-group. I don't even really know their name. Just there's that, that one. I think we got this person that, like, man, they come early on Sunday and they're like sweeping the foyer to make sure that it's clean. There's that one. Don't really know.
Starting point is 00:34:12 There's the one down there with the kids in the, you know, like the first grade. Yes, there's that one. not scrolling on TikTok to see who's the most prominent influential one, there's just that one, whoever that is, on any of our campuses. There's that one that's been just tithing for the last 20 years and just been giving, I don't know, I don't really know their name, the youngest, he answered. But right now, he's doing the loser job. It's not even worth bringing up.
Starting point is 00:34:52 He's actually being faithful doing the last thing I told him to do. He's just down there with the kids or with the youth or out in the parking lot or somewhere back behind a sound desk that you can't even see that's making this happening or put the lights on or working the cameras. I don't know. That's all they're doing. I mean, they're not like prominently on tour or holding the microphone or anything. I put those seven in front of you. He's like, no, no, no. He's just tending the sheep. And I love this. Samuel told Jesse Send for him because this is what happens. When God says, the prophet can get it wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:33 But what happens if someone comes and they prophesy and I'm going to be the next person and I'm going to be the next campus pastor? And they don't see me. The prophet could actually get it wrong. Could point to Elia because surely you're it. The father of the house can get it wrong. Jesse got it wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:50 But God never gets it wrong. Some of us will want if I do that? And I start serving and someone overla, looks me and what about my gift and what about my talent and I'm not going to, and it's like, you've got insurance. The prophet could get it wrong. The father of the house can get it wrong. God won't get it wrong.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And this is what I love. Sabia told Jesse sent for him, we won't sit down to eat until he gets here. It makes me laugh because God will actually send the ones that tried to keep you out to go and get you to put you in position because that's the kind of thing that God does. So Jesse sent for him, he had beautiful eyes and healthy, handsome appearance that the Lord said, anoint him. For he is the one, where was he? Oh, he was the one that today was working in the parking lot. He was the one that today is working behind the lights that you can't see or the sound that you can't see or is down there with our children right now teaching them. Jesus is Lord,
Starting point is 00:36:44 the Bible is beautiful. God loves you. That's the what, you can't see them. You can see me, but you can't see them. But then if the Lord's chosen them, he'll find them. Every ACL, every sinew, every muscle, every tissue is so critical. 99.99% of the effectiveness of this church, you can't even see the people that are driving it. You can't even see the people that are driving it because it's God's body. And when we all embrace our place, you saw him in a brace and crutches. If you could see a picture in the spirit of some of the church, it's like just, oh, making it maybe Sunday to Sunday. We're just barely getting by. I know it's so rough. The world's rough.
Starting point is 00:37:29 And the Lord's like, man, if that ACL snapped back into place and was willing to embrace its place, the stability of the church would be greater, the strength of the church would be greater, the rhythm and the pattern and the running, and we could run faster, and we could run harder, and we could bring God greater glory on the earth if we all embraced our place.
Starting point is 00:37:49 When I think of my whole life to where by the grace of God he's brought Nick and I today, I got saved, you know, when dinosaurs still roam. on the earth. You weren't even born, most of you at elevation. But I didn't know what to do. I just got saved. So I started serving in the youth ministry. I'd never prayed for youth. I'd never even thought I'm called to youth. I came from a Greek Orthodox background. I did not even know what a Protestant church really was, let alone what a youth group was. But it was just like, okay, go to the club and get drunk or go to youth. Okay, I'll go
Starting point is 00:38:21 to youth, because at least I'll stay straight. So I would go. And then they said, there's going to be a church clean-up day. Well, I had gotten saved. So I didn't pray or I didn't fast. It was like, okay, I guess that's what you do. Now you're a Christian. I said, Jesus, you can have all of me. I guess all of me means all of me. And so I wasn't thinking. And thank God, this was pre-social media. So I wasn't scrolling through everybody else's life trying to tell God what I wanted to do with my life. This was old school where you got in a prayer closet and got on your knees and actually asked God what he wanted for your life. You weren't telling God what you wanted to do. with your life. You were just glad that you were saved and not going to hell so you would do
Starting point is 00:39:01 anything. So church clean-up day, you were like, thank you God that you would choose me. Well, I turned up to the church cleanup day and nobody else from the youth ministry turned up. I tell everyone, this is how I've gotten to where I've gotten. God had no other options. It's like, well, you're it, cane, tag, have a go. I'm going to get a lot of glory because that's it. I've got no other options. And when you start getting to 60, there's a lot less hands that go up. And the Lord's like, well, I will be glorified because everyone will know it's not you. But that's how it started. And the assistant youth pastor was at the church cleanup day. He said, you're Christine Cariophilus, aren't you? That was my pre-marriage name and Nick thinks he saved me. And so it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:39 you're Christine Cariophilus. And he goes, you're doing psychology, aren't you? And I was like doing English and economic history. So basically I can read golden books and count to 10. But my minor was psychology. And he said, we're running, we've just got a grant for a youth center. This is I said, what's a youth centre? He said, I don't know, but I'm going on a missions trip for six weeks with a senior pastor. So when I come back, you know, I'd like you to have worked out what we're going to do with the Youth Centre. That was my call to ministry. That was it. And I hadn't prayed. I hadn't said, where do I want to serve? What are my gifts? I'm going to do a strength find a test and I'm going to do a disc profile and I'm going to look at my love languages and I'm going to have a look at witches. And I was, I was dead to self and alive to Christ. I thought I was denying myself taking up my cross and following Jesus. I'm in his body. Yes, sir. What do you want me to do? Church cleanup day? Okay. And then from the church cleanup day, I suddenly am overseeing what became a very, very influential youth center in Australia, it became a national youth center. I didn't know in 1990 that God was preparing me for the thing he had prepared for me to run a global anti-trafficking
Starting point is 00:40:47 organization down 20 years later in the future. See, if I didn't turn up to the church cleanup day, I would never have gotten the job learning how to do government submissions, learning how to talk to law enforcement and government and schools and work everywhere. All the skills I learned in anonymity and obscurity when you didn't even know who I was, was preparing me to lead one of the largest anti-trafficking organizations in the world. Way back then. And then people were like, you should have gone to another church
Starting point is 00:41:16 because for seven years I never stood on a platform with a microphone and preaching would be certainly one of my, a gift that the Lord's given me, fact was, thank God that I had leaders over me, that knew, that understood that the gift that was on me would have destroyed me because my character could not have sustained me. After 10 years of sexual abuse and being abandoned at birth and being adopted out and broken, God had to heal me before he could actually put me at the forefront of anywhere else. Church is what did that.
Starting point is 00:41:51 because if the light that is on you is greater than the light of Christ that is within you, that light will destroy you. And God cared too much about me and my future, my marriage, my children, than to say, it's ridiculous. Imagine if I pulled, can you just put that picture of that ACL up there? Imagine if we just stood here and applauded that ACL. It looks weird. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:23 But, I mean, if I just put it up, disconnected it from the knee, and just put it up, because that's what we do. I want my ligament. I mean, I'm going to put a filter on it and crop it and editor and post it because I need you to applaud my sign ear, my muscle, my, I mean,
Starting point is 00:42:40 you don't think, what are you smoking? But that's what we've done in the body. Look at my gift. Look at my gift. The only muscle or the gift or the talent is truly only in relationship. to the purpose that it serves in the body. That is the value of it. We applaud the king.
Starting point is 00:43:05 When you disconnect it, we've got so many people in the body of Christ that are misplaced and displaced because they won't embrace their place. And if you just embraced your place, joy in the fulfillment that would come, every part of my life, whether it came through, you know, my spiritual mother for three decades.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Joyce Meyer, you know, people, man, if I just had that hookup like Chris, I'm like, I was a youth leader. And then I was working at the youth center that was training me for 20 years time in the future. I didn't even know, 821. And because I wasn't speaking here, the youth center work took me to schools all around Australia. That's where I learned to really communicate. People go, where did you learn to preach? I go, honey, I went where nobody else wanted to go.
Starting point is 00:43:56 If you can hold the attention of 1,500 Australian boys at a private boys' school, church is easy. But everyone's like, if people could just see him in, if I could just get on the Christian conference circuit, if I could just do this and if I could just. And I'm like, if you just embraced your place in church and started serving, God will find you. And God will elevate your promotion. Doesn't come from the north, south, east or west. It comes from God. And God opens doors that no man can shut. And God will place you where you need to be.
Starting point is 00:44:26 And when God places you, you never have to fear being replaced. I'm never looking over my shoulder. This is not like Hollywood. There is no next Christine Kane. What does it even mean? God doesn't do next. He does new. There's only one.
Starting point is 00:44:40 He only makes one of everyone. He says, behold, I do a new thing. We're always looking for the next thing, which is a younger version of the same old thing. And God says, I'm not doing the same old thing. I'm doing a brand new thing. So there's a place for everyone in my body. There's a place for everyone in my body. Would you trust him enough to embrace your place?
Starting point is 00:45:01 This is the whole thing. I went from being teaching in high schools and then my pastor, because he'd watch me for nearly a decade. Goes Christine, now I want you to lead the largest youth movement in Australia. I went from high schools to 20,000 people and people go, where is she come from? I was like, David. And they're like, what an overnight success. I'm going, it was a long night. but God was preparing me the whole time
Starting point is 00:45:32 for what he prepared for me and then because I was in that position because God came and found me in anonymity and obscurity at a church cleanup day in the back of a youth centre with teaching ESL to at-risk young people in a high school
Starting point is 00:45:49 teaching and serving in church the whole time and then he's like okay I've got a woman coming from America that I didn't even know we didn't even have Christian TV then there's the largest media ministry in the world. And because I was a woman and it was like, okay, we need someone to go pick her up. So I was her driver.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I'm a youth leader and there's the largest ministry in the world and I drove her. Some people go, well, I'm too good to drive. I'm a preacher. I speak to 20,000 people. Why would I drive anybody? But when you embrace your place, you don't value this anymore than you value the driving. Because God sets you in place. Well, who would have known that I would be driving Joyce Meyer?
Starting point is 00:46:29 the commissar. I remember they said to me, Christine, remember I'm a youth leader. You have to go pick her up at like eight o'clock. I was so nervous and I was a youth leader. I had no money. So I borrowed a friend's suit. And then I went and stood in the hallway outside her room at the hotel at 5.30 in the morning because I didn't want to be late. And then she opens the door at 6.30 because her breakfast came. And she looked, and I looked the other way. Like, you know, as if naturally I'm just standing in a hall in a suit borrowed. And so then she opens the door again at 7.30 to put the the tray back out and nerd is still standing here. And I didn't even know what, she goes, are you here for me? Honestly, church, I was borderline thinking maybe I could lie and say no,
Starting point is 00:47:09 but then I thought she's going to get in my car. So she's going to know. So I didn't even know what to do. So I went, yeah, I didn't want to be late. And she goes, come in. Then I'm dying going, my pastor's going to kill me because I'm going into the room of the guest speaker. And then this is my first conversation. She tells, when she comes here next time, she'll tell you. She, back then she was like so into St. John's. And look at me. I'm like, as plain as like, and she opens the cupboard. And she goes, Christy, shows me all her jackets. Christine, the more it sparkles, the more I like it.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Anyway, so that was that. And then who would have known that that woman would bother me that I found out that I was adopted and don't know my biological mother. And after all the abuse and, you know, her story and all of the rejection and the abandonment. And you know, last year we found out Joyce was born the exact same year as my biological mother. Wouldn't that just be like God to do things full circle? And she's mothered us and because of that, our marriage has been so strong and our kids because of what she went through, she was able to prepare the way for me.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And a lot of why I'm still here by the grace of God at 60s because she's still here at 83 and still honoring God and still serving God. I was her driver. But because my pastor asked me to go and pick her up. You might think that's a demeaning job. I think it set me up pretty well. So elevation, what am I saying? Your greatest days are ahead of you and not behind you.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Your strongest days are ahead of you and not behind you. Your fastest days are ahead of you and not behind you. And your willingness, every single person, e-family, all of our locations, every single person that says, I don't care whether I am visible or prominent. I don't care if I'm an ACL, a sine you, a muscle, a tissue. All I want to do is embrace my place because ultimately it's not even about my place. It's about the God that sets me in place.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And this is His body in Jesus' name. Come on, if you believe that, give the Lord a mighty ovation in this place today. In Jesus' name, in Jesus' name. Thank you for joining us. Special thanks to those of you who give generously to this ministry. is because of you that this ministry is possible. You can click the link in the description to give now or visit elevationchurch.org slash podcast for more information.
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